@@getitboy83 and why would I be? Am I supposed to believe that now the vibranium armor or weapons gives you superhuman strength and endurance? 'cause I thought the Black Panther used the special herb for that.
@@juanrebolledo8123you’re not supposed to believe that at all. They are better trained than the black widows snd have all the tech advantages that vibranium provides lol it’s not rocket science as to why he got his ass stomped out
@@louisianimal24 I'm referring to the moves they made in the fight. Not as to why they won. Yes, they're clearly better trained. But they are not super soldiers and they're not amp up by the herb, like the BP, so they should not be able to make those jumps (Unless the vibranium was charge with energy from a hit which it wasn't) or have that level of strength.
Yeah he was given a reality check. Hot headed boys like him always will get that at some point if they don't already. That's how they grow. For better, or worse. In John Walker's case, he almost went down hill or south when his comrade died at the hands of those flag smashers albeit an accident. But I totally felt this man's shame and rage. He had so much expectations laden on him and he worked his ass off so hard, going the extra mile and dreaming of the day he could somehow become like the hero he looked up to aka captain America and when he finally did, he got put down every instance by Steve's former comrades and in his first mission, he was constantly outgunned and the American government only gave him more pressure. At the hearing of his discharge, you can see how unfair it was and the true villain here at times, it's the government or the people in it with agendas. Switching as and when they like and writing off who they deem unfitting. Poor Walker has dropped out of their interests and he felt betrayed and just lost a friend, the shield and broken an arm in a fight got his ass kicked too by two people he actually also respected before coming on board only to be rudely disappointed as mentioned by how they looked down on him, or I wouldn't say they were looking down on him, maybe undermining him a little because of how attached they were to Steve, and Walker was also as mentioned too impulsive, immature, full of himself, yes, arrogant. Arrogance was his downfall. As the saying goes, pride comes before a fall.
He wasn't screwing around! It's the opposite Sam and Bucky are having drinks with a terrorist, then Walker hunts them down to take Zemo to prison! Then these crazy ho's start trying to stab him because he touched her shoulder.
oh please, ya'll goofies got played by what marvel wanted you to think, wakaka girls throw a spear to his head before saying a word, and yet walker is the hot headed "boy". grow a pair
They were nice about it at least. Though it looked like Ayo was gonna kill him though maybe she would have missed on purpose and stabbed him on his arm or something as a warning. Before Bucky intervened and got into the fight with them. To save Walker.
@@goukeban6197Barbarians? The dora milaje is one of the most if not the most advanced military special forces in the MCU, coming out of the most technologically advanced country in the MCU
@@ryangreen2493 Main reason: Protagonist centered morality. The morals the show tries to convey are fucking vile, but the audience is expected to swallow them because the protagonists are the ones shitting them out.
Wouldent you? You have three special forces soldiers and a super soldier/assassin just get there asses handed to them by a group who dosent give a fuck about the politics or laws of governments who’s only purpose is to guard the man you killed
I remember when this show came out and people HATED John Walker. No one wanted him to be the next Captain A. I don't think people realized that was what Wyatt Russel wanted. He wanted you to feel ashamed that John Walker was the US's choice as the next symbol of our country. I loved the job he did.
Yeah to me after rewatching John Walker and Lamar are the Unsung heroes of the series. Sam and Bucky have been acting like complete asshole to them for no good reasons. John and Lamar didnt choose the job to be the new Cap n Bucky it chose them. Sam the one who give the shield away. And their bitching about because it blew up on their faces.
John Walker’s fixation on super soldiers is beyond crazy. Dora Milaje are trained @ a very young age in combat with vibranium weapons. They’re on equal footing with super soldiers.
Do I think Ayo was being excessive when she attacked John for touching her shoulder? Yes. Do I think he should have made that gesture with a stranger? No.
@@miheelndeva5274No, it's not. We never know how the goverment obtained that vibranium. For all we know it could've been some exchange they had with Wakanda. Or maybe it was stolen. In which case, it doesn't make sense the Wakandans never went to recover it.
We gonna talk about Flacon being able to block that vibranium speed rush at that speed? Man’s was showing he could put in the work to be Cap early and I guess I slept on it before
I love how everybody, including Lamar and excluding John knew shit was going down with the Dora Milaje before it even happened 😂. And Bucky in the background just being petty as hell😂.
Based on what others said i used to think John was an awful person, but the more i see him the more i'm convinced that he's the last sane human in the MCU.
It’s weird how here, John is being treated as incompetent for trying to defuse the situation by talking, even tho Sam does the same thing with Terrorists, and it’s seen as heroic, why is one side seen as good, when the other is seen as dumb?
John wasn't approaching it respectfully, he didn't take them seriously and threw out that he was "Captain America" in an effort to intimidate them into submission - not an attempt at diffusion, Sam could see that, hence the warning about their prowess Walker ignored that and going on to call their Vibranium spears "pointy sticks" is not only fairly hypocritical when they are no less advanced than his the Captain America Shield (that the Dora Milaje may even still consider to be a stolen resources) it's also now overtly and openly disrespectful, and obvious to them that he's being patronising - perhaps even racist (though he obviously isn't in the context of the show, based off of the known stereo types of African cultures and having only just met this man that is trying to intimidate and patronise them the Dora Milaje could definitely have perceived it that way) Touching one of them on the shoulder after all of that was incredibly stupid, he could probably sense he wasn't deescalating anything - but again he was overconfident and didn't see them as a threat in spite of Sam's warning, from his perspective a fight would end poorly for them not him, so he didn't need to be all that respectful - as a Soldier from another country you wouldn't touch a Palace Guard from Buckingham Palace even if they weren't standing by the castle gates and expect them to be cool with it - so yeah, it was dumb and it put him way on the back foot when the fight began, no doubt he'd be a match for any un-enhanced soldier no matter how well trained in a fair fight - but he f'd around and found out. Can't remember Sam's attempt to talk down the Flag Smashers - been a long time since I saw the show, and it tended to get preachy in parts, but regardless of however that convo went - this wasn't smart behaviour on Walkers part, even if the intent probably was noble, he went about it poorly.
@@TrickiousRickiousJohn wasn't approaching it respectfully? Did you forget who threw that spear at his head? Potentially skewering him, without even talking to him first? Even after that, he didn't even attack them and tried to talk it through. In a rude way? Sure, but no wonder why. The Dora Milaje didn't exactly have the best first impression. They are also overstepping their jurisdiction, and in case you forgot, John Walker was THE Captain America at the time, so... y'know, way higher than some random Royal Guard, lol.
@@underuS3d_ Fair, they were openly trying to intimidate them too, but I didn’t say the Dora Milajae were paragons of etiquette here either - though personally speaking I would be a lot more tactful if engaging in conversation or negotiating with someone that did just shoot a warning shot at me - I don’t think they were any more at risk of missing with that spear (or rather accidentally hitting John) than John would have been when throwing his shield I don’t exactly know where Captain America ranks in an official sense honestly, but even if it’s the highest rank that is officially recognised in the American military - from what I understand so are the Dora Milaje (baring the Black Panther) Also not from the same military or country, so I’m not sure either party’s relative rank matters to one another and from memory they aren’t in America (and obviously not Wakanda) when this scene takes place - so I don’t believe anyone is in their “jurisdiction” in the first place Like I said - once he lay hands on one of them, he crossed the line if this were Steve Rogers he never would have tried that
@@TrickiousRickious Captain America, who should answer to the government/president, should honestly rival Black Panther in terms of authority in their respective countries, because the Dora Milaje is a step below the Black Panther, who is a step below from the King of Wakanda. But yeah, it doesn't really matter. One country's government shouldn't really bow to someone, or they should both bow to each other. I was just using it to point out that Captain America wasn't exactly just a regular general/officer. Imagine doing a "warning" shot at a Secret Service agent or a Royal Guard, or even the Dora Milaje. They probably would have retaliated. This is where it gets me. If you blame John Walker, then you should blame the Dora Milaje as well. They tried to kill Cap after the situation melted down, just because of him touching their shoulders. Also, even if it wasn't in America, isn't Zemo their prisoner? So still, they do not have jurisdiction and John does, being Captain America. The late King of Wakanda supported the Sokovia Accords didn't he? At worse, John didn't have jurisdiction either but guess who threw the first spear and the first punch? Nownow, I'm not saying he's perfect, just that I think he's better than what you portrayed him as. Still kind of rude and condescending but I don't think that warranted a death penalty, lol. Besides, he wasn't a super soldier at the time so his shield throws aren't that deadly, compared to the spears. Bucky and Sam should have helped him too instead of laughing at him from the sidelines. They were the ones that freed Zemo in the first place.
@@CamdenKaneakaNeptunesdaughterAre you a mong? He's not a superhero and he got attacked with some very hard blows before he could even react. The fact he was even able to get up after that while being a normal person is extremely impressive. If they came at him fairly instead of attacking him for doing nothing then John would have won that fight easily!
I think that's the wrong way to look at it. The Dora Milaje threw the spear as a warning shot after ambushing everybody in the room, Walker's mistake here was looking at the situation as anything except being held at gunpoint. Imagine him walking up and touching the shoulder of someone who had a gun pointed at his face.
That was shock and betrayal. If somebody has prosthetics and/or mobility aids, they basically view them as an extension of their body and any such devices should be treated that way. I'm disabled - I require a cane, custom fitted shoes, orthopedic inserts, and an ankle brace to walk around for long without debilitating pain, and if anybody took my cane the way she detached Buck's arm, you bet your ass I'd have the same look.
@@spaceonisorceress4406 *especially* if they're a Disabled Veteran and someone they'd fought alongside and they had mutual respect with did it. Bucky was VERY justified to look as betrayed as he was. BECAUSE he was.
@@Kayoss13212 Well also because Wakanda has the best trained fighters in the MCU's earth, they can molly whoop highly trained soldiers and can cook the Black Widows.
@@alexdoesnanimate1552 maybe. But I feel like that also has to do with the fact that they have the best tech on earth. If it was a hand to hand fight, I feel like that would be a different conversation. Especially compared to the Black Widows or the Ten Rings.
@@michaelgreenwood3413How isn't he? In his first fight, he's up against superhuman characters who can kill him with a few punches, yet when he loses his shield and can easily tap out like the Falcon did, what does he do? He jumps back on the truck, knowing he could very easily die, but yet he does it anyway as their terrorists, and he's got to stop them, even if he knows he'll most likely die trying. If it wasn't for plot armour John would have died in that fight, so tell me how is ignoring the odds to try and save innocent lives, not a captain America thing?
Yes... by laying hands on someone (a woman no less) and speaking condescendingly. SIgh... the way people rationalize somethings. I know people right here in this country I knew people (male anmd female) who dont tolerate a stranger layiing hands on them. In some countries even speak to the wrong woman is a big No-No let alone putting your hands on them.
So the Dora just throw a spear at Captain America for no reason? If he had been killed, that would have caused a lot of conflicts between the U.S and Wakanda
@yellow6572 Yes, that's what the U.S. does. But we're talking about the potential. Reread, what the original poster posted. The Wakandans mind their own business. But when if they were provoked, the U.S. wouldn't have a chance.
i would have been ok with this scene IF Ao just stopped after the first blow, to give him the message that they arent to be messed with (even tho walker wasnt looking for a fight to begin with) but they decided to TRY AND FREAKING MURDER WALKER AND LAMAR AFTER THAT, like they didnt do anything wrong! especially lamar, he was just chillin in the background
@@rajeshsisodia4216 Ayo: Literally aims a spear at John's face and drives it down, only being stopped by Bucky Idiots on the Internet: She wasn't trying to kill him bro
Lot of people here scoffing at how the fight started when John touched her shoulder and I'm sitting here thinking how that was situation that needed to be de-escalated and those are 100% "no touchy" situations. The Dora Milajae were clearly expecting a fight and the one John touched didn't know if he was going to follow that up with an attack, so she moved first. Remember kids: de-escalation means using your *words* not your hands.
Honestly anyone with real people skills and military training should know better especially since that’s considered an invasion of personal space and a sign of disrespect 😭.
Your clearly not from the south. Down here we don't mind if someone touches our shoulder. Seeing how Johns character is from Georgia he did it as a friendly gesture. Anyone who gets so mad over a shoulder touch that they are ready to commit murder has issues!
It baffles me how people shit on John in this scene. His only “fault” was not being Steve Rogers. He didn’t steal Cap’s shield, his country chose him after Sam declined the position. He had jurisdiction to be there under the Sokovia Accords, while everyone else in the room didn’t. Yet he still offered to work with everyone and the ladies who apparently have jurisdiction “wherever they find themselves to be” spat in his face. And Sam a fellow American just thought this all fine and dandy. Yeah John had his issues but he was definitely not at fault here!
You forget that Zemo killed their King, was in jail, and now out walking around with Avengers as if nothing was wrong. Your assumption is that Fake Cap was supposed to be regaled by the Dora when they were there to bring Zemo back to prison. The Dora knew that Zemo was out and couldnt trust the entire room of people. This is an assumption that a superior group of fighters are supposed to yield because they arent American. Your personal feelings are getting involved with what is right and wrong in the eyes of all. You just see black women fighting a white man. Your is very much on display.
I sympathize after they scapegoated him for making the US look bad… he was just trying to do his job but he let the stress get to him and caused him to act irrationally and unprofessionally. Plus he lost his best friend that gotta hurt 😞.
You don't touch people in tense situations. We shit on John because we see what he becomes. Not as a result of this scene, but as a result of who he is as a person. Steve Rogers would never have disrespected the Dora the way he did in this scene. Did they overreact? Maybe, maybe not.
@@Venjamin Whatever he became later, he was not it at this point in time. And how exactly did John disrespect the Dora? They had no jurisdiction being there by the way, yet John listened to what Sam said and tried to lighten the situation and talk with them. She's the one who attacked him for no reason...
@@ar1sm70 "Let's put down the pointy sticks." You mean the traditional weapon that represents the Dora? Cool, it's like saying "Let's put down the silly dinner plate" about his shield. It's an insult, whether it was intended to be or not. Then he reached out to touch her - which, as you well know, is not something you do to a total stranger in a hostile situation. "Jurisdiction" is a funny phrase trying to do a lot of work. The only reason Wakanda hasn't taken over the world at that point is out of sheer desire to be left to their own devices and deal with problems on their own. That's neither here nor there. Pretending they don't have jurisdiction over dealing with the man that killed one of their royals is questionable at best. They were being fairly polite instead of just kidnapping him after they left that room where Bucky and Sam were.
I really didn't like the premise of this show too much. From what I remember, Steve gave it to Sam and neither Sam nor Bucky wanted it, so the government took it and gave it to John. John was a soldier told by the US government to be the new Captain America and was teying his best but Sam and Bucky got jelous and started treating him like crap for what 😭. Like yeah, he can never properly replace Steve, and he may even not be fully worthy of the title, but the government literally chose him and he was excited to fight for his country! I wish they changed the plot and character motivations to make the story more satisfying and the chracters more likable (For both the Cap storyline and Karli storyline). Maybe I forgot some important details though... I kind of started forgetting the show like the week after I finished and it's been like a year since then so...
I really wish that we could've seen all of the other avengers meet John Walker the same way how we saw the Dora Milaje meet "The New Captain America" like how would Hawkeye and Ant-Man and the others would have reacted to John? That's why I wish that the other remaining avengers could have made a cameo appearance in this show
correct me if I am wrong, none of them have super soldier serum and the only augmentation is Bucky's arm which they had cheat codes for since it was made by Wakanda for him. It is implied the Dora Minaji are breed for their purpose, they are essentially customized children than trained to be elite warriors from childhood. I say this outcome, especially since it is 3v2 in favor of the Dora for most of the fight, makes a lot of sense. If Sam, James, Battlestar, and John weren't opposing each other and all worked together from the start maybe this is less of a powdering. And I am pretty sure Steve solos the three of them. Assuming they even opted to engage and not talk. The Witch, Strange, Thor, or Vision probably is something they aren't going to beat. If Tony is familiar with the properties of vibranium to resist the spears, he should be able to hand the three of them in nano seconds as well. I am pretty sure they would lay out Natahsa and Clint just as quickly.
Yes and no Sam’s ok in a fight but being in the room really effects how he fights limiting what we can do, as for Bucky he’s trying really hard not to be the winter soldier and he sees the kings guard (I have a learning disability I’m not even going to try to spell there name) as comrades in arms he’s not even fighting at half strength. Now haveing said that the kings guard are more or less chosen from mother to daughter of the best fighters in their country and given to the guard as potential wives to the black panther I’d put a basic member in the same group as say a ranger one of the lower level special forces group in the us army the higher skill ones probably match up with seals and the like
Because kilmonger was wearing full vibranium remember plus Bucky was actually taking it easy as he has a lot to thank wakanda for so shut up and remember other instalments in marvel history
Just to make dora milaje look cool they nerfed bucky down so much In winter soldier mode he was a country level threat which can assassinate anyone witn ease and fought against cap and falcon and still gave them a hard time but now he is just casually getting beaten up by black girls And i know who they are but cap can fight to toe with black panther with vibranium suit and multiple dora milaje couldn't stop kill monger the same kill monger who got killed by black panther so technically bucky should be able to defeat 2 to 3 dora milaje easily
@@leonel392 you kids think when I say level it means they need to have some attack which can destroy a country lol grow up Country level means he can infiltrate in government offices and take over the country or held president hostage or launch nuke on various state and country to start world war and tf you mean everyone in MCU is city level asshole Thanos with one snap wiped out half of the population in entire Universe Scarlet witch could take over the multiverse with America's power Celestials created galaxies out of nothing Eternity can do anything Everyone in MCU is city level blah blah In thor 1 movie it was shown if bifrost is left open in one spot for long time it can destroy entire planet and it was in thor 1 mf Their is a difference between being a hater and giving valid points
Question, all I know about Wakanda is from the movies and Black Panthers appearances in the Avengers comics and cartoons. Do the Dora Milaje use any kind of enhancement beyond vibranium and advanced weapons and armor? I'm not talking like super-soldier serium, but I do know they used powerful herbs.
Dora milaje warriors wasn’t in the mood to played with nonsense, they manhandled everyone in the room , Looking strong John , other guy was like I’m not getting between this in leaving y’all alone handling this
killmonger took on the whole Dora Milaje squad, and Black Panther took on Killmonger, and Bucky took on Black Panther... i think the writers here forgot all that.
And Killmonger would've died had it not been for the herb and vibranium suit. You go back to watch that fight, and you'll find numerous times when they struck lethal blows that would've killed him had he not worn the suit. They even had him pinned down, but once again, the suit helped him. And not even in his Winter Soldier mode could Bucky best Black Panther. He lost all three of their fights.
Cap (Chris Evans) would have dealt with the Dora Milaje. He went toe to toe with Thanos and Black Panther/ He threw Panther when he was going after Bucky in Civil War.
@@zeto1191 and they were dumb enough to attempt to chuck a spear at the head of the face of America UNPROVOKED, PRIOR TO HIM EVEN DOING A LIGHT SHOULDER PAT.
I look at this scene now and I wonder "what in the hell was the point of them even being there?" I remember it was always part of zemo's plan. Sneaky little bastard always sneaking out of places at just the right time, especially when he knows how to turn people against each other. Which brings me back to what I said before, what the hell were the DORA MILAJE doing there? 😂😂😂 It was basically just a doorway for them to say here's another scene where "women do it better" but let's make the men look like shit.
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Walker realizes how much he isn't measuring up when he said 'they weren't even super soldiers'
This is the exact reason why Sam could never be Captain America either.
@@dshadow3173 Yet....Sam has gone on to be Captain America
@@SBzKillFrenzy with Bucky's help 🤣
@@dshadow3173 I just helped your mother. Everybody needs some help sometimes
@@SBzKillFrenzy That's the best you've got? Good one...for a 12 year old.
“They weren’t even super soldiers” bro felt so ashamed😂
But they had the all powerful and magical vibranium. Which apparently grants some super soldier moves.
@@juanrebolledo8123 you’re joking, right?
@@getitboy83 and why would I be? Am I supposed to believe that now the vibranium armor or weapons gives you superhuman strength and endurance? 'cause I thought the Black Panther used the special herb for that.
@@juanrebolledo8123you’re not supposed to believe that at all. They are better trained than the black widows snd have all the tech advantages that vibranium provides lol it’s not rocket science as to why he got his ass stomped out
@@louisianimal24 I'm referring to the moves they made in the fight. Not as to why they won. Yes, they're clearly better trained. But they are not super soldiers and they're not amp up by the herb, like the BP, so they should not be able to make those jumps (Unless the vibranium was charge with energy from a hit which it wasn't) or have that level of strength.
"they weren't even super soldiers 😦" the exact moment bro realized he's been effing around and found out
Yeah he was given a reality check. Hot headed boys like him always will get that at some point if they don't already. That's how they grow. For better, or worse. In John Walker's case, he almost went down hill or south when his comrade died at the hands of those flag smashers albeit an accident. But I totally felt this man's shame and rage. He had so much expectations laden on him and he worked his ass off so hard, going the extra mile and dreaming of the day he could somehow become like the hero he looked up to aka captain America and when he finally did, he got put down every instance by Steve's former comrades and in his first mission, he was constantly outgunned and the American government only gave him more pressure. At the hearing of his discharge, you can see how unfair it was and the true villain here at times, it's the government or the people in it with agendas. Switching as and when they like and writing off who they deem unfitting. Poor Walker has dropped out of their interests and he felt betrayed and just lost a friend, the shield and broken an arm in a fight got his ass kicked too by two people he actually also respected before coming on board only to be rudely disappointed as mentioned by how they looked down on him, or I wouldn't say they were looking down on him, maybe undermining him a little because of how attached they were to Steve, and Walker was also as mentioned too impulsive, immature, full of himself, yes, arrogant. Arrogance was his downfall. As the saying goes, pride comes before a fall.
He wasn't screwing around! It's the opposite Sam and Bucky are having drinks with a terrorist, then Walker hunts them down to take Zemo to prison! Then these crazy ho's start trying to stab him because he touched her shoulder.
The GRC set him up for failure. Even Steve Rogers had like a year doing PR before going into his first mision. They gave him no support whatsoever.
@@5Lion5ofGod7Double the pride, double the fall
oh please, ya'll goofies got played by what marvel wanted you to think, wakaka girls throw a spear to his head before saying a word, and yet walker is the hot headed "boy". grow a pair
@2:21 she handed to shield back to John like "you dropped this, bro." 😂
Hit him with the GG's.
They were nice about it at least. Though it looked like Ayo was gonna kill him though maybe she would have missed on purpose and stabbed him on his arm or something as a warning. Before Bucky intervened and got into the fight with them. To save Walker.
translation : we kick yo ass even with that shield.
More like "you dropped your toy"
Bucky looking at his arm like buzz in Toy Story when he got his arm ripped off from trying to jump through the window 😂
Perfect description
“Looking strong John”😂💀
Bucky is a dick! Johns fighting for his life, while these crazy bitches are trying to kill him! WTF!
"yeah, let's have a laugh while bro fights for his life against the barbarians who just chucked a spear at his head, unprovoked"
@@goukeban6197 Dude shouldn't have touched HBIC. He Fed around and found out 😂
@@tonyahines4554 Yeah, he should have guessed they were barbarians incapable of diplomacy.
@@goukeban6197Barbarians? The dora milaje is one of the most if not the most advanced military special forces in the MCU, coming out of the most technologically advanced country in the MCU
one of the best lines in the MCU. "They weren't even super soldiers" LOL
One of the worst shows ever written
@@goukeban6197the shows dialogue is weak it definitely focused more on the action than anything and Bucky’s flashbacks are interesting that’s about it
@@goukeban6197 why....
@@ryangreen2493 Main reason: Protagonist centered morality. The morals the show tries to convey are fucking vile, but the audience is expected to swallow them because the protagonists are the ones shitting them out.
I like how zemo just DIPPED
Wouldent you? You have three special forces soldiers and a super soldier/assassin just get there asses handed to them by a group who dosent give a fuck about the politics or laws of governments who’s only purpose is to guard the man you killed
Smartest man in the room just straight up said not my fight or in skill set 😂
zemo: Not my pig, not my farm.
@@debyanshubisswas419 literally the definition of "imma head out"
Bro pulled an El Chapo 😂
2:11 - The way she kicks the shield up like Cap does.
The way she kicks the shield up better than Cap does**
*FIXED IT* 😂
They can all do it and better than cap because that's all they train and live with
Cap is a wana be
😂considering they grew up and trained with vibranium their entire lives, I would say Cap kicks the shield up like she does
@@shaabosqueezy6599 is the shield made of vibranium? I thought it was adamantium?
@@rabbitazteca23 its vibranium
I remember when this show came out and people HATED John Walker. No one wanted him to be the next Captain A. I don't think people realized that was what Wyatt Russel wanted. He wanted you to feel ashamed that John Walker was the US's choice as the next symbol of our country. I loved the job he did.
Your comment should be given prize and cherished
I didn't hate him at all. He's just a regular guy with impossibly big shoes to fill. I'd overcompensate, and you, probably, too.
agreed, i didn’t like him as the next captain america but i think it’s a testament to his acting and how they scripted everything
Yeah to me after rewatching John Walker and Lamar are the Unsung heroes of the series. Sam and Bucky have been acting like complete asshole to them for no good reasons. John and Lamar didnt choose the job to be the new Cap n Bucky it chose them. Sam the one who give the shield away. And their bitching about because it blew up on their faces.
Even his face looked punchable. It was too wide and smarmy. Like the old man in Up
i enjoy the fact that john makes fun of the dora milaje for their main weapons being spears, when his main weapon is a metal frisbee
Yeah, he really could have done without the condescension
@@devrao3537 still a metal frisbee
@@devrao3537 I know that’s the joke 😀
Never underestimate the Dora Milaje
Or El Chapo.
John Walker’s fixation on super soldiers is beyond crazy. Dora Milaje are trained @ a very young age in combat with vibranium weapons. They’re on equal footing with super soldiers.
Dora Miraje was there during the fight against Thanos's army.
but without those weapons would they still be able to stand up to a super soldier in pure strength? @@tringuyen7519 t?
He didn't underestimate them. He just didn't have situational awareness. He didn't stop to think that they didn't zero f's to whom he was.
Do I think Ayo was being excessive when she attacked John for touching her shoulder? Yes. Do I think he should have made that gesture with a stranger? No.
Yeah I agree, I was like that’s a no no lol. What did you expect especially with these guys haha.
Try touching an on duty Marine, or any member of a Royal Guard and you’ll get a similar reaction.
He called their weapons pointy sticks, 🤣 forgetting his shield is their property also
@@miheelndeva5274No, it's not. We never know how the goverment obtained that vibranium. For all we know it could've been some exchange they had with Wakanda. Or maybe it was stolen. In which case, it doesn't make sense the Wakandans never went to recover it.
@@juanrebolledo8123they got it from Wakanda. It is their property.
John never failed to make a situation worse.
We gonna talk about Flacon being able to block that vibranium speed rush at that speed? Man’s was showing he could put in the work to be Cap early and I guess I slept on it before
Yeah I noticed that! I was like damn that was hard.
Seems like lazy writing
@@joey6058 he's always had the insanely fast reflexes. He dodged Visions laser with no heads up in Civil War.
@@joey6058 Always guys like you smh
I like this format without music, it gives more realism
Zemo could always count on them having a civil war/internal conflict to help him get his way. When will they learn?
And always over him!
He doesn't even have super powers, but he's always one step ahead of them! I mean come on what he did to the Avengers was brilliant!
WRONG
I don’t always count on him. He ruined people lives and kill peoples family stop defending him his evil actions.
The other two were just trying to subdue... Ayo is about that life. 😮
I love how everybody, including Lamar and excluding John knew shit was going down with the Dora Milaje before it even happened 😂. And Bucky in the background just being petty as hell😂.
Imagine if Okoye was there!!!!!!
Such a great character. My favorite member of the Dora Milaje.
The Dora out here humbling everybody 😂😂
They should have a nickname in Wakanda that means “reality check”
Based on what others said i used to think John was an awful person, but the more i see him the more i'm convinced that he's the last sane human in the MCU.
It’s weird how here, John is being treated as incompetent for trying to defuse the situation by talking, even tho Sam does the same thing with Terrorists, and it’s seen as heroic, why is one side seen as good, when the other is seen as dumb?
Bc of agendas lmao. They wanted john to be seen as bad and thus he was forced to be that way through braindead writing
John wasn't approaching it respectfully, he didn't take them seriously and threw out that he was "Captain America" in an effort to intimidate them into submission - not an attempt at diffusion, Sam could see that, hence the warning about their prowess
Walker ignored that and going on to call their Vibranium spears "pointy sticks" is not only fairly hypocritical when they are no less advanced than his the Captain America Shield (that the Dora Milaje may even still consider to be a stolen resources) it's also now overtly and openly disrespectful, and obvious to them that he's being patronising - perhaps even racist (though he obviously isn't in the context of the show, based off of the known stereo types of African cultures and having only just met this man that is trying to intimidate and patronise them the Dora Milaje could definitely have perceived it that way)
Touching one of them on the shoulder after all of that was incredibly stupid, he could probably sense he wasn't deescalating anything - but again he was overconfident and didn't see them as a threat in spite of Sam's warning, from his perspective a fight would end poorly for them not him, so he didn't need to be all that respectful - as a Soldier from another country you wouldn't touch a Palace Guard from Buckingham Palace even if they weren't standing by the castle gates and expect them to be cool with it - so yeah, it was dumb and it put him way on the back foot when the fight began, no doubt he'd be a match for any un-enhanced soldier no matter how well trained in a fair fight - but he f'd around and found out.
Can't remember Sam's attempt to talk down the Flag Smashers - been a long time since I saw the show, and it tended to get preachy in parts, but regardless of however that convo went - this wasn't smart behaviour on Walkers part, even if the intent probably was noble, he went about it poorly.
@@TrickiousRickiousJohn wasn't approaching it respectfully? Did you forget who threw that spear at his head? Potentially skewering him, without even talking to him first? Even after that, he didn't even attack them and tried to talk it through. In a rude way? Sure, but no wonder why. The Dora Milaje didn't exactly have the best first impression. They are also overstepping their jurisdiction, and in case you forgot, John Walker was THE Captain America at the time, so... y'know, way higher than some random Royal Guard, lol.
@@underuS3d_ Fair, they were openly trying to intimidate them too, but I didn’t say the Dora Milajae were paragons of etiquette here either - though personally speaking I would be a lot more tactful if engaging in conversation or negotiating with someone that did just shoot a warning shot at me - I don’t think they were any more at risk of missing with that spear (or rather accidentally hitting John) than John would have been when throwing his shield
I don’t exactly know where Captain America ranks in an official sense honestly, but even if it’s the highest rank that is officially recognised in the American military - from what I understand so are the Dora Milaje (baring the Black Panther)
Also not from the same military or country, so I’m not sure either party’s relative rank matters to one another and from memory they aren’t in America (and obviously not Wakanda) when this scene takes place - so I don’t believe anyone is in their “jurisdiction” in the first place
Like I said - once he lay hands on one of them, he crossed the line if this were Steve Rogers he never would have tried that
@@TrickiousRickious Captain America, who should answer to the government/president, should honestly rival Black Panther in terms of authority in their respective countries, because the Dora Milaje is a step below the Black Panther, who is a step below from the King of Wakanda. But yeah, it doesn't really matter. One country's government shouldn't really bow to someone, or they should both bow to each other. I was just using it to point out that Captain America wasn't exactly just a regular general/officer. Imagine doing a "warning" shot at a Secret Service agent or a Royal Guard, or even the Dora Milaje. They probably would have retaliated.
This is where it gets me. If you blame John Walker, then you should blame the Dora Milaje as well. They tried to kill Cap after the situation melted down, just because of him touching their shoulders. Also, even if it wasn't in America, isn't Zemo their prisoner? So still, they do not have jurisdiction and John does, being Captain America. The late King of Wakanda supported the Sokovia Accords didn't he? At worse, John didn't have jurisdiction either but guess who threw the first spear and the first punch? Nownow, I'm not saying he's perfect, just that I think he's better than what you portrayed him as. Still kind of rude and condescending but I don't think that warranted a death penalty, lol.
Besides, he wasn't a super soldier at the time so his shield throws aren't that deadly, compared to the spears. Bucky and Sam should have helped him too instead of laughing at him from the sidelines. They were the ones that freed Zemo in the first place.
Dora milaje are so cool, that scene where she thread the needle with John's hand and the shield was just ridiculous
I like to call them the professional reality checkers, because whenever people fight them, they get humbled real quick.
@@CamdenKaneakaNeptunesdaughterthose bitches could be killed by a fucking gun. Their little pointy sticks couldn’t protect them
@@CamdenKaneakaNeptunesdaughterAre you a mong? He's not a superhero and he got attacked with some very hard blows before he could even react. The fact he was even able to get up after that while being a normal person is extremely impressive. If they came at him fairly instead of attacking him for doing nothing then John would have won that fight easily!
damn ayo disARMED bucky really quick ¬‿¬ 1:51
The Dora Milaje threw a spear right in John's face for no reasons and they are mad that he touched one of them shoulders. Damn people are stupid.
I think that's the wrong way to look at it. The Dora Milaje threw the spear as a warning shot after ambushing everybody in the room, Walker's mistake here was looking at the situation as anything except being held at gunpoint. Imagine him walking up and touching the shoulder of someone who had a gun pointed at his face.
Oh, how I love the sound Bucky's arm makes 😍 🔥🥵🔥😍
He looked so disrespected when she disabled his arm!! 😂😂😂😂😂
That was shock and betrayal.
If somebody has prosthetics and/or mobility aids, they basically view them as an extension of their body and any such devices should be treated that way.
I'm disabled - I require a cane, custom fitted shoes, orthopedic inserts, and an ankle brace to walk around for long without debilitating pain, and if anybody took my cane the way she detached Buck's arm, you bet your ass I'd have the same look.
@@spaceonisorceress4406 *especially* if they're a Disabled Veteran and someone they'd fought alongside and they had mutual respect with did it.
Bucky was VERY justified to look as betrayed as he was. BECAUSE he was.
Such a shame we won't be seeing Chadwick Boseman in the upcoming Marvel and Black Panther movies. R.I.P KING!!
The very scene which pushed John to take Super Soldier serum
😂
Let's be real even after he got the Super Soldier Serum he still would've gotten whooped
Even if Walker did take it sooner, he still wouldn’t have beaten them. No way would current Hollywood/Disney let a man beat a woman in a fight. lol.
@@Kayoss13212 Well also because Wakanda has the best trained fighters in the MCU's earth, they can molly whoop highly trained soldiers and can cook the Black Widows.
@@alexdoesnanimate1552 maybe. But I feel like that also has to do with the fact that they have the best tech on earth. If it was a hand to hand fight, I feel like that would be a different conversation. Especially compared to the Black Widows or the Ten Rings.
John Walker: "They weren't even Super Soldiers."
Me: "And you're not Captain America."
He is, or was. He just wasn't a goof one.
@@bryanrogers5648 he was like the 5th Captain America... and pretty much everyone before him was better (Steve, Isaiah, Jeffrey Mace, etc)
@@michaelgreenwood3413How isn't he? In his first fight, he's up against superhuman characters who can kill him with a few punches, yet when he loses his shield and can easily tap out like the Falcon did, what does he do? He jumps back on the truck, knowing he could very easily die, but yet he does it anyway as their terrorists, and he's got to stop them, even if he knows he'll most likely die trying. If it wasn't for plot armour John would have died in that fight, so tell me how is ignoring the odds to try and save innocent lives, not a captain America thing?
"Looking strong John." 💀
Damn she left my boy Bucky unarmed.
Literally, my favorite scene in that entire series
I feel a little bad for John Walker in this scene.
@YURISHIK0
Sam wouldn't had that infamous speech he gave to the senator about doing better if that were to be the case 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why
Don't, the guy is a moron. An idiot.
I don’t he didn’t deserve that shield nor should he EVER have thought he could be Cap. Bottom line if it’s not the OG Roger’s it’s not cap
@@stichhavoc88That's true, and I don't like his attitude. But he was trying to do the job that was assigned to him by his superiors.
There was literally no way. Steve actually slowed down Thanos one hand and made him use another hand. This girls ain't beating super soldiers
Don’t misunderstand me. The Dora milaje is a strong force. They just have terrible timing and always let the bad guy go😂😂😂😂
I’m not scared of the Dora Milaje, I respect them and trust they will kick my ass if I cross their way
They really over powered the dora milaje for this. And I think the writers forgot bucky has the super soldier serum. this show dude...
@@michaeleansan2730 Bucky didn't want to fight them.
it’s the fact that that shield was going to be taken away from him right their if her commanding officer didn’t tell her to give it back 😂😂
I've not seen the show but now I understand what I've read online about Cap America 😂
Sam- you may want to fight Bucky instead of the dora milaje.
John- Who the fuck said anything about fighting?! I'm trying to deescalate the situation.
Then why did he lay his hands on her?
If he got smacked around by them, a fight between him and killmonger would be embarrassing
El Chappo is in the MCU too? Damn lmao wonder if he was snapped out of prison
1:33 - That move had to be practiced. No wonder the Wakandans got so good at making prosthetic arms
It was after this scene John walker went on ahead and popped that ser🧪💉
I feel bad for all the misogynists that ever got humiliated and humbled by these spear wielding “Grace Jones looking chicks”
I mean John wasnt really trying to provoke them and was even tryna talk it out lol
Yes... by laying hands on someone (a woman no less) and speaking condescendingly. SIgh... the way people rationalize somethings. I know people right here in this country I knew people (male anmd female) who dont tolerate a stranger layiing hands on them. In some countries even speak to the wrong woman is a big No-No let alone putting your hands on them.
So the Dora just throw a spear at Captain America for no reason? If he had been killed, that would have caused a lot of conflicts between the U.S and Wakanda
If you couldn’t tell, she threw it so it perfectly stuck him against the table, it was to demonstrate the Dora’s skill.
Ummm, do you really think they could beat the Wakandans? Much like North Korea wouldn't against the US.
@@PatTalisman No immediately when the Dora enter not that point
@@moxyblackfiddler Depends honestly
@yellow6572 Yes, that's what the U.S. does. But we're talking about the potential. Reread, what the original poster posted. The Wakandans mind their own business. But when if they were provoked, the U.S. wouldn't have a chance.
Reminder that John Walker is supposed to be the villain in this scene
No, he's not. His villain moment was during his fight against Sam and Bucky. He's just an annoying douche here.
@@bryanrogers5648 So, average American Tourist, then.
"Hey Cap...you drop this" 😂😂😂😂
i would have been ok with this scene IF Ao just stopped after the first blow, to give him the message that they arent to be messed with (even tho walker wasnt looking for a fight to begin with) but they decided to TRY AND FREAKING MURDER WALKER AND LAMAR AFTER THAT, like they didnt do anything wrong! especially lamar, he was just chillin in the background
If she wanted to kill him.She should have done it in 1 attack.Do you even think that John Walker could do anything in front of dora milaje
@@rajeshsisodia4216
Ayo: Literally aims a spear at John's face and drives it down, only being stopped by Bucky
Idiots on the Internet: She wasn't trying to kill him bro
Lot of people here scoffing at how the fight started when John touched her shoulder and I'm sitting here thinking how that was situation that needed to be de-escalated and those are 100% "no touchy" situations. The Dora Milajae were clearly expecting a fight and the one John touched didn't know if he was going to follow that up with an attack, so she moved first.
Remember kids: de-escalation means using your *words* not your hands.
Honestly anyone with real people skills and military training should know better especially since that’s considered an invasion of personal space and a sign of disrespect 😭.
Your clearly not from the south. Down here we don't mind if someone touches our shoulder. Seeing how Johns character is from Georgia he did it as a friendly gesture. Anyone who gets so mad over a shoulder touch that they are ready to commit murder has issues!
@@workingman9019 im from bama and nobody likes to be touched even the old folks
@@workingman9019 Tennessean here. Stepping into my space and touching my shoulder won't be considered friendly and neither will my response.
@@markdunham9634 It sounds like people from Tennessee are weird. Texas is the true south. We don't get butt hurt over being touched. Loser.
Them boys should feel lucky that Okoye wasn't in the room with them. She Neva Freezes😎😂😭🤣
You put the subtitles in spanish and says: "Juan Walker" lol
This was a badass scene!
Clearly John Walker is no match for the Dora Milage
Top movie scenes how do you remove the BGM with what
I left some of the background music to make you happy this time
@@TopMovieScenes I’m not worried about it any more I’ve realized it’s your channel and you do what u decide
I wish he said
"Some bald women are stronger than 3 skilled Avengers"
Only in movies can a normal strength woman fight a guy who can bench 2 tons 😂
With Vibranium suits and weapons, and the guys are actively trying not to hurt them.
Walker before the serum, he wouldn't even fight Hawkeye and Black Widow hahaha
Love the look in her eyes when he calls himself capt America almost disgusted at the idea he dares to tarnish the title capt America
Do you really eat this marvel slop this easily and uncritically?
It's all fun and game unless you're fighting Bucky. The Winter soldier, American Agent and Steve are on different level
1:38 that some moves sam got😮😮
It baffles me how people shit on John in this scene. His only “fault” was not being Steve Rogers. He didn’t steal Cap’s shield, his country chose him after Sam declined the position.
He had jurisdiction to be there under the Sokovia Accords, while everyone else in the room didn’t. Yet he still offered to work with everyone and the ladies who apparently have jurisdiction “wherever they find themselves to be” spat in his face. And Sam a fellow American just thought this all fine and dandy.
Yeah John had his issues but he was definitely not at fault here!
You forget that Zemo killed their King, was in jail, and now out walking around with Avengers as if nothing was wrong. Your assumption is that Fake Cap was supposed to be regaled by the Dora when they were there to bring Zemo back to prison. The Dora knew that Zemo was out and couldnt trust the entire room of people. This is an assumption that a superior group of fighters are supposed to yield because they arent American. Your personal feelings are getting involved with what is right and wrong in the eyes of all. You just see black women fighting a white man. Your is very much on display.
I sympathize after they scapegoated him for making the US look bad… he was just trying to do his job but he let the stress get to him and caused him to act irrationally and unprofessionally. Plus he lost his best friend that gotta hurt 😞.
You don't touch people in tense situations. We shit on John because we see what he becomes. Not as a result of this scene, but as a result of who he is as a person. Steve Rogers would never have disrespected the Dora the way he did in this scene. Did they overreact? Maybe, maybe not.
@@Venjamin Whatever he became later, he was not it at this point in time.
And how exactly did John disrespect the Dora? They had no jurisdiction being there by the way, yet John listened to what Sam said and tried to lighten the situation and talk with them. She's the one who attacked him for no reason...
@@ar1sm70 "Let's put down the pointy sticks." You mean the traditional weapon that represents the Dora? Cool, it's like saying "Let's put down the silly dinner plate" about his shield. It's an insult, whether it was intended to be or not.
Then he reached out to touch her - which, as you well know, is not something you do to a total stranger in a hostile situation.
"Jurisdiction" is a funny phrase trying to do a lot of work. The only reason Wakanda hasn't taken over the world at that point is out of sheer desire to be left to their own devices and deal with problems on their own. That's neither here nor there.
Pretending they don't have jurisdiction over dealing with the man that killed one of their royals is questionable at best. They were being fairly polite instead of just kidnapping him after they left that room where Bucky and Sam were.
I really didn't like the premise of this show too much. From what I remember, Steve gave it to Sam and neither Sam nor Bucky wanted it, so the government took it and gave it to John. John was a soldier told by the US government to be the new Captain America and was teying his best but Sam and Bucky got jelous and started treating him like crap for what 😭. Like yeah, he can never properly replace Steve, and he may even not be fully worthy of the title, but the government literally chose him and he was excited to fight for his country! I wish they changed the plot and character motivations to make the story more satisfying and the chracters more likable (For both the Cap storyline and Karli storyline). Maybe I forgot some important details though... I kind of started forgetting the show like the week after I finished and it's been like a year since then so...
Im guessing Bucky and ayo hooked up when he was in wakanda
Based on Wakanda Forever, Ayo doesn't like men
@@ShadrockMarciano when did she say that
@@bartlewis7398 she's in a relationship with a woman
Ayo is gay
Ayooooo 😭…. See what I did there 😏
I really wish that we could've seen all of the other avengers meet John Walker the same way how we saw the Dora Milaje meet "The New Captain America" like how would Hawkeye and Ant-Man and the others would have reacted to John? That's why I wish that the other remaining avengers could have made a cameo appearance in this show
At the first point i thought, i opened the wrong captain America then I realized no this is what it is 😢 still can’t accept it
So just a few soldiers in that group can easily take down 2 Avengers? Then what exactly do we need Avengers for?
correct me if I am wrong, none of them have super soldier serum and the only augmentation is Bucky's arm which they had cheat codes for since it was made by Wakanda for him.
It is implied the Dora Minaji are breed for their purpose, they are essentially customized children than trained to be elite warriors from childhood.
I say this outcome, especially since it is 3v2 in favor of the Dora for most of the fight, makes a lot of sense. If Sam, James, Battlestar, and John weren't opposing each other and all worked together from the start maybe this is less of a powdering. And I am pretty sure Steve solos the three of them. Assuming they even opted to engage and not talk. The Witch, Strange, Thor, or Vision probably is something they aren't going to beat. If Tony is familiar with the properties of vibranium to resist the spears, he should be able to hand the three of them in nano seconds as well. I am pretty sure they would lay out Natahsa and Clint just as quickly.
and let's keep in mind, even though she isn't here and is clearly a cut above rank and file, Obokye 1v1 slew Corvius Glaive in Endgame.
In their defense, they don't want to fight them
@@davidlewis5312 Bucky has super soldier serum. Did you even watch the movies?
Yes and no Sam’s ok in a fight but being in the room really effects how he fights limiting what we can do, as for Bucky he’s trying really hard not to be the winter soldier and he sees the kings guard (I have a learning disability I’m not even going to try to spell there name) as comrades in arms he’s not even fighting at half strength. Now haveing said that the kings guard are more or less chosen from mother to daughter of the best fighters in their country and given to the guard as potential wives to the black panther I’d put a basic member in the same group as say a ranger one of the lower level special forces group in the us army the higher skill ones probably match up with seals and the like
His arm can also turn into wings
So this is the power of social justice...
The Dora struggled against Killmonger. Yet they had no issues against one of the greatest assassins in the world, Bucky? Sorry, but no.
Because kilmonger was wearing full vibranium remember plus Bucky was actually taking it easy as he has a lot to thank wakanda for so shut up and remember other instalments in marvel history
From which movie are those scenes? What am I missing here?
bucky is so nerfed here, needed winter soldier to kick their ass
If you actually paid attention in marvel history you know why he went easy but of course you we’re asleep and paid no attention what so ever
Literally disarmed Bucky😅
Never liked how they let fake cap keep the shield its metal from there home land and they honored Roger’s enuff to let him keep it
To be fair, they don't see the point of fighting the Doras. Just like how some of us also don't see the point of this fight.
Don’t put your hands on a warrior 🤷🏾♂️. As a soldier he should know better than that.
“A weak man knows the value of strength and compassion, a man who’s known power all his life loses respect for it.”
Just to make dora milaje look cool they nerfed bucky down so much
In winter soldier mode he was a country level threat which can assassinate anyone witn ease and fought against cap and falcon and still gave them a hard time but now he is just casually getting beaten up by black girls
And i know who they are but cap can fight to toe with black panther with vibranium suit and multiple dora milaje couldn't stop kill monger the same kill monger who got killed by black panther so technically bucky should be able to defeat 2 to 3 dora milaje easily
Wym country level? My man, almost everyone within the MCU are city level
@@leonel392 you kids think when I say level it means they need to have some attack which can destroy a country lol grow up
Country level means he can infiltrate in government offices and take over the country or held president hostage or launch nuke on various state and country to start world war and tf you mean everyone in MCU is city level asshole
Thanos with one snap wiped out half of the population in entire Universe
Scarlet witch could take over the multiverse with America's power
Celestials created galaxies out of nothing
Eternity can do anything
Everyone in MCU is city level blah blah
In thor 1 movie it was shown if bifrost is left open in one spot for long time it can destroy entire planet and it was in thor 1 mf
Their is a difference between being a hater and giving valid points
Question, all I know about Wakanda is from the movies and Black Panthers appearances in the Avengers comics and cartoons. Do the Dora Milaje use any kind of enhancement beyond vibranium and advanced weapons and armor? I'm not talking like super-soldier serium, but I do know they used powerful herbs.
No, they're just that good. It's why they're Dora.
@@bryanrogers5648 ty
only the chosen one gets the magic herb to become the Black Panther. Dora are just well trained, well educated and well armed.
@@PacificDark much appreciated, that just makes me appreciate this scene more
They weren't even super soldier's love when the fake Captain America says that after he got his ass kick. 😂😅
Do not take out the sound, it "sounds" terrible
Buckys old arm was better than his wakandan arm
Bucky's here! 😳. Im just gonna step out 🥴
Dora milaje warriors wasn’t in the mood to played with nonsense, they manhandled everyone in the room , Looking strong John , other guy was like I’m not getting between this in leaving y’all alone handling this
This scene is cut all to pieces to the point its hard to keep track
killmonger took on the whole Dora Milaje squad, and Black Panther took on Killmonger, and Bucky took on Black Panther... i think the writers here forgot all that.
Doubt it considering Bucky was holding back and wasn’t trying to fight them. Him and Ayo are friends 😭!
And Killmonger would've died had it not been for the herb and vibranium suit. You go back to watch that fight, and you'll find numerous times when they struck lethal blows that would've killed him had he not worn the suit. They even had him pinned down, but once again, the suit helped him. And not even in his Winter Soldier mode could Bucky best Black Panther. He lost all three of their fights.
2:48 did he mean el chapo Guzmán?
Please put some clips of loki action too
2:32 Highlight
Soooomos neeegras porque hacemos lo que quereeeeeemos… (Ketama en wakanda)🤣🤣🤣
Ah yes, the super girl bosses
M-She-U
Cap (Chris Evans) would have dealt with the Dora Milaje. He went toe to toe with Thanos and Black Panther/ He threw Panther when he was going after Bucky in Civil War.
The world never deserved Steve Rogers...
I remember watching this the first time and was like “oh John 🤦🏽♂️…” 🤣
He did nothing wrong.
@@goukeban6197 yea you’re right he just touched a Dora without her permission. No big deal at all 😒
@@zeto1191 and they were dumb enough to attempt to chuck a spear at the head of the face of America UNPROVOKED, PRIOR TO HIM EVEN DOING A LIGHT SHOULDER PAT.
I look at this scene now and I wonder "what in the hell was the point of them even being there?" I remember it was always part of zemo's plan. Sneaky little bastard always sneaking out of places at just the right time, especially when he knows how to turn people against each other. Which brings me back to what I said before, what the hell were the DORA MILAJE doing there? 😂😂😂 It was basically just a doorway for them to say here's another scene where "women do it better" but let's make the men look like shit.
They we’re they’re to detain Zemo, shut up with the women do it better
real captain america would've been enough to defeat them
@@ebbyking123 Yeah.
Movie name send me bro
Lets GET THEM LADIES.
LETS GO DORA MILAJE
Bro really tried to fight a black woman as a white dude in a Marvel show.