How to use the BEE-CAM B4 mount lens adapter (S35 and S16 modes)

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @davidmorefield
    @davidmorefield 8 месяцев назад +6

    I love it man. You’re the only one putting out content on these systems.

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks David. That's exactly why I am doing it. Such a small amount of sample footage or thread posts with mis-information. It was an area that needed some solid data and I figured I might as well do it.

  • @wkmpellucid
    @wkmpellucid 8 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks - very interesting. My interest would be using a kit on a Sony FX30.

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  8 месяцев назад

      Yeah definitely. It works with S35 sensors with approx 1.1-1.2x cropping to remove the very slight vignetting.
      It works great on both my FS7 (S16 and S35) and with my A6600 (S35). Would work just as well on a FX30 ☺️👌

    • @wkmpellucid
      @wkmpellucid 8 месяцев назад

      Thank you. @@jamesandcamera

  • @Altcine
    @Altcine 4 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for this. Very helpful

  • @ovidiu.gramesc
    @ovidiu.gramesc 4 месяца назад +1

    Fascinating stuff. I've shot a music video with the ursa broadcast G2 and the canon hj22ex7.6b lens and the quality was amazing. The things you can do like hard zooms just blew my mind. Will definitely be ordering an adapter for the C70.

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah nothing quite like being able to do parfocal zooms across a huge zoom ratio 😊🤙

  • @bigbadbenny67
    @bigbadbenny67 8 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent presentation, very thorough and to the point. What are the 35mm full frame equivalent focal lengths of the various potential kits in different formats? For AFL football 24-400mm+ is ideal. Will any of your kits offer that range? Exited :)

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  8 месяцев назад +1

      Hey Benny, thanks for your support.
      As far as the FF equivalent focal lengths to the kits, they should easily cover the long end of the range of 24-400mm equiv.
      The Canon J21x7.8 f1.8 shown in this video has an approx full frame equivalent focal range of 28-570mm. Then if you are in S16 and can use the doubler to gain extra zoom range it goes up to approx 1000mm worth of reach
      Another example the Canon J16x8 f1.8 I tested is a full frame equivalent of approx 28-448mm again doubler could be engaged for extra reach if you are capturing in S16 mod. In S35 mode in each case you just get the base range of the lenses as the doubler just provides sensor coverage rather than extra range.
      Thanks for the question :)

  • @chicobraz4335
    @chicobraz4335 2 дня назад +1

    Great info ! Was looking for an optically corrected 2x B4 to PL adapter , any recommendation ? Thanks

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  День назад

      Arri or IBE are your only actually optically correct versions in B4-PL for S35 coverage (approx 2x magnification)

  • @devinfinley22
    @devinfinley22 2 месяца назад +1

    Great work with these videos. They're a great resource! Thanks for what you do! One question. I assume this lens support 6:25 is custom made? I've been looking for a solid solution that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and this seems to fit the bill. Curious if you could shed some light. Thanks again!

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  2 месяца назад

      Hey Devin, I am glad you are finding the videos useful 😊 I thought it was about time there was good recent info on it. Since nobody else seemed to be doing it, I thought I would do it myself.
      For the lens support, yes I custom make them to fit the specific lens. Definitely worth using as it secured the lens in 4 directions. Compared to a more typical support that just gives support from 1 direction (underneath). Get in contact with me by the email in the channel about section if you would like to order or need any extra details

  • @usmalibu
    @usmalibu 4 месяца назад +2

    Hello! Thank you very much for such an excellent video! I’ve learned few new things I never know before!
    I have a question I’d like to ask you
    How could I contact you for detailed questions? Thank you

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  4 месяца назад

      I have an email address listed in the about section of this RUclips channel 😊👍

  • @hymyllyr4561
    @hymyllyr4561 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so much for the incredibly informative video. I have a question. Would a Metabones speedbooster with a B4 to EF adapter ring function in a similar way? My Speedbooster is EF to MFT.

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  2 месяца назад +1

      Hey, glad you enjoyed the video. Unfortunately not, speed boosters don't correct for an RGB focal offset.
      They also condense the optical path, which shrinks the projected image size.
      Whereas you need to expand the projected image from a 2/3" B4 lens as it is projecting too small for any common CMOS sensor camera.
      That's why the optical corrector, expands the image 1.1x (some do a higher expansion too) so that the small projection size is enlarged to fill a larger sensor. It also has special coatings on the optics which align the RGB wavelengths to correct the offset.
      Additionally I have tried using a metabones speed booster in my very early tests with the idea, and it actually makes the image worse 😬. Better image quality from just using a lenses built in doubler on its own for a small correction.

    • @hymyllyr4561
      @hymyllyr4561 2 месяца назад

      @@jamesandcamera Thank you for the very thorough answer James! really appreciate it :)

  • @Lugo1993
    @Lugo1993 2 месяца назад +1

    Hi James, thank you so much for thia, such a good series ! Do you have any recommendations for a b4 to pl adapter with optical correction or do you maybe make one, if this is even possible? I would like to adapt a B4 Lens to my Bolex (Bolex Bayonet Mount- which i have a PL Adapter for) Thanks an keep up the great work !

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  2 месяца назад +1

      Hi, glad you found value in the series 😊
      For B4-PL optical correcting adapters, the best option is the IBE 1.4x. it's very expensive though. The other option is by MTF at a lower cost but from what people have told me, less image quality.
      The 1.1-1.5x magnification ratio with correction is what suits S16 sensors/film size best.
      Be aware that all the B4-PL correcting adapters have parts that protrude deep into the mount, so check clearance of mirror box etc before mounting/running the camera to make sure it won't obstruct or damage the mirror/shutter. Same goes for anyone reading this reply thinking to B4-PL adapt to a DSLR.
      Hope that helps. I haven't personally got around to doing much in the B4-PL space. But have put a lot of thought into it.😊🤙

    • @Lugo1993
      @Lugo1993 2 месяца назад

      @@jamesandcamera thanks for the extensive answer ! 🙏😊
      Yes i have see that one, but must agree, almost to expensive for what it is…
      I would much rather pay you and get one made, if that would be any possibility? 😊
      And what is your website? Would like to have a look, but can‘t find it.
      The depth into the PL mount would not be a problem for me, because there is a lot of room.
      Are there any good ones for C-mount?

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  2 месяца назад +1

      @@Lugo1993 no problem, I try my best to give as much info as I know. It is a difficult niche to research.
      I don't make a B4-PL version yet unfortunately. It is quite a bit more difficult than adapting to mirrorless mounts.
      I have plans to make one, but I think it will be atleast 6 months+ till I have made my prototype and maybe a year till I make them for others to be able to buy.
      It is a slow process as it is just me doing all the designing/making of the adapters in my spare time between my Cinematographer job and family.
      I don't have a website, all those sorts of things cost money, which raises the cost of the adapters. I am trying to keep overheads at $0 to keep the adapter costs as affordable as possible for owner operators. If I sold them on a website or eBay I would have to raise prices 13%+ to cover fees and charges that the website takes.
      People generally contact me to order by the email available in the 'about' section of this channel 😊

    • @Lugo1993
      @Lugo1993 2 месяца назад +1

      ⁠@@jamesandcamerasounds very good, can‘t wait to see what you come up with, best luck ! 😊
      I totally understand, it‘s pretty time consuming and a lot of trial and error i imagine. And yess, also males sense to sell via e-mail, keep it low budget and not to much work !
      keep up the awsome work 🫶😊

  • @legostopmotion5310
    @legostopmotion5310 Месяц назад +1

    hey great video, I have a question where can I buy that converter because I cant vind it anywere

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  Месяц назад +1

      Hi, they are currently unavailable till I get around to making more in December. There is no online store to buy them in. It is a matter of emailing me to order, not having an online storehelps keep costs down for such a small batch made product.
      I will be posting here once they are available again in December 😊🤙

    • @legostopmotion5310
      @legostopmotion5310 Месяц назад

      @@jamesandcamera aah check thank u answering!

    • @TheReelport
      @TheReelport Месяц назад

      How much would it cost?

  • @NativeWire
    @NativeWire 4 месяца назад +1

    You say that you build this mount, what will you charge for a b4/m43 adapter? Could I use it on my BMPCC 6k Pro or BMPCC 4k?

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  4 месяца назад +1

      It works on the pocket 4k in later firmware versions with the S16 scan mode. It won't work with the 6k as it is not made for reflex mounts cameras like EF mount.
      Prices for each adapter depend on the design I make in that batch.

    • @NativeWire
      @NativeWire 4 месяца назад

      @@jamesandcamera I have a Canon YJ18x9B4 IRS SX12 with a doubler, will your adapter work with my lens? I want to mount to my BMPCC 4k. I need that front lens mount also.

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  4 месяца назад

      @@NativeWire the adapter works in S16 scan mode with any 2/3" B4 lens.
      Check my latest video to see how a Slightly newer version of that lens performs with the adapter. A YJ19x9

  • @mayokuro-j5i
    @mayokuro-j5i 8 месяцев назад +1

    I'm very interested in your adopter work.
    In fact, I would like to make a purchase within the year.
    I just need some clarification.
    Compared to using a blackmagic broadcast b4 compatible camera
    The advantage of your adapter + Sony fs7 or fs7m2 would be for 240fps slow motion sports use.
    On Sony FS7 or FS7M2
    S16 CENTER CROP mode, I was wondering if the 240FPS continuous output works well with both HDMI and SDI.
    Thanks again for your wonderful work. I am waiting with great anticipation. Please look forward to your confirmation regarding super slow motion.

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  8 месяцев назад

      Hi, sorry I can't help you with any info on using it in 240fps slow motion output. That requires the XDCA back and a raw recorder which I don't have.
      However I personally think the basic 150 fps for most people sports like football is plenty, but for motorsport or archery maybe not.
      😊🤙

    • @mayokuro-j5i
      @mayokuro-j5i 8 месяцев назад

      @@jamesandcamera Thank you for your kind response. I intend to use it for live broadcasts, not for recording :)
      I think your work is going to be a revolutionary position, have a nice day!

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  8 месяцев назад

      @@mayokuro-j5i what broadcast switcher or interface are you planning to use to switch the cameras that accepts a 240fps input?
      I only use basic switcher consoles for my work so I am not aware of any that are affordable that can do 240fps or even 100fps

    • @mayokuro-j5i
      @mayokuro-j5i 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@jamesandcamera PC based software to do superslomo replay. not ccu. existing systems can't be used for minor league replay due to cost.
      For example, FS7M2 TO 240FPS TO PCIE FHD240P CAPTURE CARD (ELGATO 4K60P+) and control Vmix software

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  8 месяцев назад

      @@mayokuro-j5i interesting I had not thought of that approach. Sounds like a much more accessible way to do it 🙂👌

  • @tklee9556
    @tklee9556 8 месяцев назад +1

    Really love this video, wonder where I can get this adapter?

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  8 месяцев назад +1

      Hey TKLee, towards the end of the video I mention my Instagram username. You can find me on there and DM me to order it 😊🤙

    • @tklee9556
      @tklee9556 8 месяцев назад

      @@jamesandcameraThanks man! I will msg you in Ins!!

    • @mynameis9389
      @mynameis9389 7 месяцев назад

      @@jamesandcameraso I saw this adapter is for s35 any chance one will be made for full frame as of now the workaround is to add this adapter then add the remaining 2x zoom through clear image zoom or post

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@mynameis9389 No plans to make one for full frame. It is by far the most asked question I have got. Unfortunately people do not understand the physics of what they are asking. Expanding the image to cover FF requires approx 4x-4.5x image expansion.
      The main thing is you are taking a f1.8 lens, and reducing the light transmission so much that it will be the brightness of approx T10+ when the iris is set wide open.
      Making the lens harder to use at night or even just indoors without using a a high ISO degrading the captured image with noise.
      Expansion to S16 makes for T2.5 approx. and expansion to S35 makes for T5.6 approx.
      The best option is to use an old FS7/FS5 or if you absolutely must have a full frame camera, use an FX9 with FF, S35 and S16 scan modes.
      I might make a limited batch of FF converters in the future but you should be aware of the limitations from the laws of physics 🥸

  • @asafblasbergvideographer
    @asafblasbergvideographer 2 месяца назад

    is there a 4/3" version for Panasonic GH5 II recording in 4K 60P?

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  2 месяца назад

      Only a version that covers a S16 equivalent size of the sensor. No plans to make one that covers a full M4/3 sensor yet.

  • @Agent451
    @Agent451 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have a Canon EF S35 body I want to use a B4 lens on (Canon YH18x6.7 KRS SY14), do you make an optically corrected mount adapter for B4 2/3 to Canon EF?

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  7 месяцев назад

      Hi, no I don't make one for EF, it is much more complex compared to adapting with optical correction to a mirrorless mount.
      The only one I know of that can work with EF only works with the C300 MK2 in S16 centre scan mode, not S35.

  • @joaquinandrade2892
    @joaquinandrade2892 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for your video, I have a Canon TV Zoom lens, J15x9.5B 9.5-143mm 1:1.8, I would like to mount this lens on my Panasonic GH5, Would this adapter work with this camera body and lens, and where can I purchase the adapter. Thanks for your help.

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  4 месяца назад

      Hi Joaquin, thanks for your interest.
      I can make the adapter to fit the Micro4/3 mount. As far as coverage of the sensor goes, you will need to find out for yourself if the GH5 has a S16 size scan mode or is able to clear image zoom to an equivalent crop for it to work.
      The J15x9.5 is quite an old SD lens, I would recommend something newer for a better image quality. I have just tested a Fuji 7x7 from around the same time and it only really got decent image quality at f4 with a corrected adapter. Where newer SD lenses perform well from f2.8.
      As far as buying the adapters are currently out of stock and I will build a new batch for people to buy to be ready September 2024.

  • @taomenshuifilmstudio34
    @taomenshuifilmstudio34 6 месяцев назад

    Great Video!!!, Good info for us B4 ENG lens Users ,,,, I Have the B4 15x9 KRS , older version Lens and have an adapter for the Panasonic AF101 camera, works fine, But I'm interested in using the lens on my Sony PMW F3, Fotodiox sells the adapter , though I don't think it has the Glass inside the adapter , and the super 35 Sensor will probably cause major Vignetting in the shots.....I also would like to use the lens on the Sony FS7Mk2 ... Any information would be greatly appreciated , Thanks Alex...........

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  6 месяцев назад +1

      Hey Alex, first I would need to know the exact model code (eg: Canon J16x8B4-...) of the lens to make sure it is worth you going through all the trouble 👍
      The optical correcting adapters I customise can work with 2/3" B4 lenses and convert them with corrections and a slight image expansion to Sony E mount and other mirrorless mounts. There are other manufacturers who make more expensive optical adapters too such as IBE, MTF, Abakus, Sony and Canon.
      I do NOT recommend Fotodiox for B4 adapters, from my experience I don't think they are optically correct and don't produce a clean enough image.
      The adapter I customise is optically corrected and cleans up the image so that is like using on a native B4 3CCD camera. It suits S16 sensor sizes and can cover 98% of a S35 sensor when using a lenses inbuilt doubler. It is perfectly suited to FS7/FS5/FX9 with their S16 center scan mode and S35 capture mode.
      Hope that helps 😊👌

    • @taomenshuifilmstudio34
      @taomenshuifilmstudio34 6 месяцев назад

      @@jamesandcamera Thanks James, It is a , Canon J15x9.5B4 KRS Lens..........

  • @anthonyjames7106
    @anthonyjames7106 6 месяцев назад

    Hi James...very interested in purchasing this adapter for my GH6.
    I can also help you with any testing you might need for the m43 version. I have several SD, HD and 4K Canon and Fujinon b4 lenses at my disposal including 50x and 70x Fuji box lenses we can test it on. Thanks Anthony

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  6 месяцев назад

      Hey Anthony, get in touch with me by my email in the about section of the channel.
      I will have the next batch of adapters ready in about a week 😊👍

    • @anthonyjames7106
      @anthonyjames7106 6 месяцев назад

      @@jamesandcamera Hi James. Email sent from my spectravideo**************** email address. Look forward to hearing from you. Cheers Anthony

  • @Philip-Dickinson-Studios
    @Philip-Dickinson-Studios 2 месяца назад

    I have an fs5 and an fs700, and I already have a BMD URSA mini B4 adapter, I just haven’t yet engineered a solution to add an E mount and spacer to the B4 adapter. How can I contact you to organise to purchase just your back half of the e to b4 adapter? Thx.

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah the FS5 is a great option for it having both S16 and S35 scan modes.
      Unfortunately I don't sell just the back converter part itself, and have put a pause on making the adapters till December to focus on a few other interesting projects and redesign the adapter.
      I definitely think it is worth having a go at making the part yourself if you already have the mount, as it is not too hard to get the fitment for basic functionality. The only hard part is strengthening the part once you have the functional fitment.

    • @Philip-Dickinson-Studios
      @Philip-Dickinson-Studios 2 месяца назад

      @@jamesandcamerawould you be able to tell me the size of adapter I need to make to match the e mount flange distance to the BMD ursa mini flange distance? I might try doing a 3d print, maybe I’ll use an m42 to e adapter I already have.

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  2 месяца назад +1

      @@Philip-Dickinson-Studios sorry I can't tell you the flange depth. I agreed with a friend who worked with me on the R&D for it that we would keep it to ourselves.
      However I can say it is not too hard to find if you can use a short helicoid or just short adjustable tube spacer to test different depths. Otherwise you could always do some math based off the size of my adapter in the video footage and get pretty close on your first try.

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  2 месяца назад +1

      @@Philip-Dickinson-Studios I will also note that a M42-E adapter may be too deep.

  • @jacobstewart4035
    @jacobstewart4035 7 месяцев назад +1

    I've reached out to you over Instagram Messenger, but I'm not sure you'll get it. I have 3 Black Magic Pocket Cinema 4k's (MFT mounts) and would like to control zoom and focus from the tripod handles. I am simply streaming content from my church and we are currently using photographic lenses & Cine Prime lenses. We would prefer to be able to zoom a shot in without having to switch to a different shot and having to focus manually, etc. Is this something your adapter and kit can help me to do? We are not streaming in 4k - really more like 720p due to our streaming platform limitations. Would love to see if this is our ticket.

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Jacob, I see your message on Instagram in my requests. I will chat to you there 😊

    • @jacobstewart4035
      @jacobstewart4035 7 месяцев назад

      @@jamesandcamera Mahalo from Hawaii!

    • @jaymnonlyjapanese
      @jaymnonlyjapanese 4 месяца назад

      Just curious I want to do something similar did you figure anything out to work with your workflow

    • @jacobstewart4035
      @jacobstewart4035 4 месяца назад

      @@jaymnonlyjapanese we did. What info would you like to know? We ended up getting a Fujinon B4 lens and an optical corrective adapter that we are using on our Black Magic Pocket Cinema 4k camera. We also got a remote zoom command with an adapter. The focus demands are quite expensive and we haven’t gone there yet. We are hoping there might be an inexpensive solution soon as many of them are $1000 or so. However, in our situation, we don’t need to change focus much and since the lens is parfocal, it really does most of what we need without a focus demand.

  • @cameragod1
    @cameragod1 8 месяцев назад +1

    Very cool :)

    • @jamesandcamera
      @jamesandcamera  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks I am glad you found it interesting 😊

  • @quyetphamvanquyet1868
    @quyetphamvanquyet1868 5 дней назад

    Hello