So I think this is pretty easy to understand why the TSR is spinnier which makes it more efficient on toe strikes: weight track is in the back vs GT3 with weight track in the front.
I really only change drivers nowadays based on feel and sound. The tech is so close that for me, the distance and dispersion differences are negligible. Perfect vibration and tone feedback is what I chase!
I just bought a brand new TSR3 9° driver with shaft for $300. Been playing an Ai Smoke triple diamond 9° this season and while I like it, I’ve found that if I try to turn it over, it really snaps left out of the air. It’s so much better for just straight ball and fade. However I tried a friends TSR3 and I could work the ball right to left, left to right, and straight. Going to test both head to head on my launch monitor though to see what works best overall.
Enjoyed this video as my swing, tho slower, has very much the same tendency. Same path, same tendency to hold the face open especially on misses. Encouraging to see how much easier it was, almost instantly, for Josh to square the GT3 with same specs. Not saying everyone would get same result, but definitely has me one foot out the door for a try with a GT2 or 3.
Excellent video.... Proof that Titleist do improve their products in the 2 years between club launches.... Some of the other manufacturers should consider the 2 years as well and actually improve their products rather than the clear intent to fleece us of unnecessary cash each year. I'm definitely considering selling 2 of my 3 drivers to have a GT fitting 🤔
@@DanB- proof was there in the way the lad instantly hit it straighter and longer... that's what I saw anyway 👍🏼 It's not always about the numbers mate. Also...im entitled to an opinion I think 😁
I think the takeaway for me (as the lad in the video) is that I felt more comfortable with one head over the other and that made the difference and it just happened to be the newer model ☺️ I think for me the GT was better but it could go either way with another hitter. Plus I spray it over the face 🤣
@@RichBoyWinstonStraightVibin spot on, it comes down to each individual, I totally agree. I am very tempted by the GT range but will probably need to move on at least 1 of my current stable of 3 drivers 😭😂😂
Pretty crazy. I always thought the TSR line were among the best drivers. I Managed to get a deal on one and it is pretty amazing, picked up speed and forgiveness. And it has a decent sound, much better than the TaylorMade products but not quite as good as the Paradym's.
it's interesting because you would think the weight forward would create more dispersion with the GT3, but it seems pretty forgiving and creates low spin vs. the TSR. I love my TSR3 and won't move to the GT3, but for someone who needs to knock spin down it seems like a great move
If you struggle with accuracy off the tee ,then a bit more spin is your friend ,good comparison on those drivers .I doubt I will be upgrading my tsr ,I’m just not accurate enough most days to notice any consistent difference
Would have been interesting to see you add white vertical lines on the face of the TSR to match the look of the GT face and see if he squared the face more.
I just got fit for a gt3 i was averaging above 1.5 smash factor on trackman while my 10k max ping was average at 1.47 and didnt notice any less forgiveness on the gt3
Yup always been a bit wayward off the tee! Tbf it’s a lot harder in here hitting lots of repeat balls, on the course it’s a bit easier but yeah even on course I ain’t the straightest!
@ crazy as he has a good swing on the inside, good numbers just wild spin. I have the same set up and I love the tsr3 it’s the best driver ever. Any hcp could game it. I know it’s for low hcp golfers but for me it’s super forgiving
Based on his variable hits around the face, it would be interesting to compare against a mindriver, does he hit the middle more often and therefore gain distance and accuracy. With the TM minidriver, reverse the weights and see if low spin gives him more distance, whilst still in control.
Na he's actually a pretty good driver of the ball tbh. Just spins it a lot so a mini driver would lose him quite a large amount of distance on average Vs a low loft ls style driver.
@@zacharymilos392 higher speeds?! Probably only know 1 or 2 people that swing driver faster than 115 - 117 and then pretty much everyone would moan about having someone that quick doing the testing 😂 but the average numbers speak for themselves really I've done quite a lot of testing with both now and the GT is just a fraction lower spin. That's about the only real difference in all honesty
Seen the GT line has the new GD VF at a "discounted upcharge". Also heard the new Ventus black plus has a softer handle than the original ventus black. Would you say from your testing that the VF and the new ventus black are quite similar in terms of flex and profile?
Nah... if the video is too long don't watch it. Lol, love the in depth videos. Short videos don't explain anything. Videos should be as long as it takes to answer what's in question.
@@robinortega1834 well it all depends how many shots we put in. I could just go straight to the data to answer the questions and then it would be super short 😂. The more shots the better imo but this videos performance has definitely been affected because of its length. It would have performed better if it was shorter. So we just need to find a nice balance I think
@@LT99_ I do touch on that in the video...honest answer is you'd need 3d motion to properly understand that. Possibly path but I've seen plenty of people with his exact delivery numbers who are super efficient. Some people are just better at producing that more efficient blow.
Provided you are centre striking it - Dynamic loft and AoA relationship as well as face to path is huge for transfer. If you hit you hit up on it with neutral FTP and less dynamic loft, the energy transfer is money every time
@@epgolfstudios scratch on the bottom and a scratch on the face only played twice with it weather it was a bit of mud on the tee I don’t know apart from that brilliant driver
@@patrickgilmour9826 yeah it would surprise me if that was gapping just from hitting balls and with grass. Must have nicked something on the ground id say. I've hit them loads indoors and haven't marked anything yet
On the ones where he leaves the face open yes but when Josh managed to square the face the loft was actually quite low. And efficiency still generally remained quite low. So yes absolutely you're correct that would contribute but there were still other things occurring I would say.
I put a poll out on insta about this and was very surprised by 75% of people saying this length is absolutely fine. I will be doing some short video testing soon, but unfortunately it seems your opinion sits in the minority category.
Also that's a pretty terrible way of wording and structuring the feedback. Just makes you come across as a bit of a knob. Maybe put a little bit of thought into it next time 👍 appreciate it
These videos serve more than one purpose, obviously they inform the viewer, one persons long winded, is essential information to others. Also it gives the viewer a great understanding of what to expect if you visit Ross and have a fitting, having done that, the fitting was infinitely better than fittings ive had elsewhere. Attention to detail when making a major purchase is critical, to each their own
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So I think this is pretty easy to understand why the TSR is spinnier which makes it more efficient on toe strikes: weight track is in the back vs GT3 with weight track in the front.
I really only change drivers nowadays based on feel and sound. The tech is so close that for me, the distance and dispersion differences are negligible. Perfect vibration and tone feedback is what I chase!
I just bought a brand new TSR3 9° driver with shaft for $300. Been playing an Ai Smoke triple diamond 9° this season and while I like it, I’ve found that if I try to turn it over, it really snaps left out of the air. It’s so much better for just straight ball and fade. However I tried a friends TSR3 and I could work the ball right to left, left to right, and straight. Going to test both head to head on my launch monitor though to see what works best overall.
What shaft? Shaft is probably more important for that than the head
So you're testing the same head against itself?
@@uwrossl he’s going to test Tsr vs A.I smoke
Enjoyed this video as my swing, tho slower, has very much the same tendency. Same path, same tendency to hold the face open especially on misses. Encouraging to see how much easier it was, almost instantly, for Josh to square the GT3 with same specs. Not saying everyone would get same result, but definitely has me one foot out the door for a try with a GT2 or 3.
I hit both the gt2 and gt3. They both seem to have the same forgiveness. I took home the gt3 and I love it. Tho sound on well struck shots :)
same went from tsr2 9 degree to gt3 8 degree
Excellent video.... Proof that Titleist do improve their products in the 2 years between club launches.... Some of the other manufacturers should consider the 2 years as well and actually improve their products rather than the clear intent to fleece us of unnecessary cash each year. I'm definitely considering selling 2 of my 3 drivers to have a GT fitting 🤔
Where was the "proof" the data proved there is pretty much nothing in it.........
@@DanB- proof was there in the way the lad instantly hit it straighter and longer... that's what I saw anyway 👍🏼 It's not always about the numbers mate. Also...im entitled to an opinion I think 😁
I think the takeaway for me (as the lad in the video) is that I felt more comfortable with one head over the other and that made the difference and it just happened to be the newer model ☺️ I think for me the GT was better but it could go either way with another hitter. Plus I spray it over the face 🤣
@@RichBoyWinstonStraightVibin spot on, it comes down to each individual, I totally agree. I am very tempted by the GT range but will probably need to move on at least 1 of my current stable of 3 drivers 😭😂😂
Pretty crazy. I always thought the TSR line were among the best drivers. I Managed to get a deal on one and it is pretty amazing, picked up speed and forgiveness. And it has a decent sound, much better than the TaylorMade products but not quite as good as the Paradym's.
it's interesting because you would think the weight forward would create more dispersion with the GT3, but it seems pretty forgiving and creates low spin vs. the TSR. I love my TSR3 and won't move to the GT3, but for someone who needs to knock spin down it seems like a great move
100% mate
@@epgolfstudios love the content man! Keep it up
Thanks mate appreciate that 👍
Good review Ross. 👍
Thanks Russell
Thanks
If you struggle with accuracy off the tee ,then a bit more spin is your friend ,good comparison on those drivers .I doubt I will be upgrading my tsr ,I’m just not accurate enough most days to notice any consistent difference
Plus the TSR is still a really great driver 💪
Would have been interesting to see you add white vertical lines on the face of the TSR to match the look of the GT face and see if he squared the face more.
for the toe and heel strikes did you move the weights to the toe and heel? That's the big difference I'm seeing.
I just got fit for a gt3 i was averaging above 1.5 smash factor on trackman while my 10k max ping was average at 1.47 and didnt notice any less forgiveness on the gt3
1.5 on trackman is impressive!!!
He’s a bit wild with the big stick, big hitter but wild. Spinny numbers that for a tsr3 at that loft wow.
Yup always been a bit wayward off the tee! Tbf it’s a lot harder in here hitting lots of repeat balls, on the course it’s a bit easier but yeah even on course I ain’t the straightest!
Yeah the TSRs certainly weren’t low spin heads, not even the 4 was really
@ crazy as he has a good swing on the inside, good numbers just wild spin. I have the same set up and I love the tsr3 it’s the best driver ever. Any hcp could game it. I know it’s for low hcp golfers but for me it’s super forgiving
@ he’s losing about 15 yards plus carry with that spin if he could get it down he would be massive
@@2sqnbandit379 easily done just change head but distance isn’t everything especially if you can be wayward
Based on his variable hits around the face, it would be interesting to compare against a mindriver, does he hit the middle more often and therefore gain distance and accuracy. With the TM minidriver, reverse the weights and see if low spin gives him more distance, whilst still in control.
Na he's actually a pretty good driver of the ball tbh. Just spins it a lot so a mini driver would lose him quite a large amount of distance on average Vs a low loft ls style driver.
Oh you 🥹🥹🥹
@@RichBoyWinstonStraightVibin 😂😂😂
Hard to improve upon perfect drivers. TSR's were that.
I'd be interested to see how this comparison is at higher speeds but an in to out path with a player who doesn't tend to spin it a ton.
@@zacharymilos392 higher speeds?! Probably only know 1 or 2 people that swing driver faster than 115 - 117 and then pretty much everyone would moan about having someone that quick doing the testing 😂 but the average numbers speak for themselves really I've done quite a lot of testing with both now and the GT is just a fraction lower spin. That's about the only real difference in all honesty
@@epgolfstudios ah I just meant high speed in general, 115 is good lol. Yeah other than visuals, there doesn't seem to be tons in it.
Seen the GT line has the new GD VF at a "discounted upcharge". Also heard the new Ventus black plus has a softer handle than the original ventus black. Would you say from your testing that the VF and the new ventus black are quite similar in terms of flex and profile?
In states, it's a 200$ upcharge. Not bad for a near 400$ msrp
What type of adapter are you using? All fit adapter? Or a different brand?
Yeah Club Conex Uni-Fit adapter. It isn't bad tbf
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I love this channel but 44min videos are a little to much in my opinion.
Thanks for the feedback and I probably agree. Still fine tuning the formula.
Nah... if the video is too long don't watch it. Lol, love the in depth videos. Short videos don't explain anything. Videos should be as long as it takes to answer what's in question.
@@robinortega1834 well it all depends how many shots we put in. I could just go straight to the data to answer the questions and then it would be super short 😂. The more shots the better imo but this videos performance has definitely been affected because of its length. It would have performed better if it was shorter. So we just need to find a nice balance I think
When's that GT4 indepth review? Need to validate my purchas 😅
😂😂 yeah not too sure tbh 😂 maybe a GT3 Vs GT4 is needed to see if any difference ...
Why is his efficiency so low?
@@LT99_ I do touch on that in the video...honest answer is you'd need 3d motion to properly understand that. Possibly path but I've seen plenty of people with his exact delivery numbers who are super efficient. Some people are just better at producing that more efficient blow.
It's a generational curse I've been trying to escape for years
Provided you are centre striking it - Dynamic loft and AoA relationship as well as face to path is huge for transfer. If you hit you hit up on it with neutral FTP and less dynamic loft, the energy transfer is money every time
The gt 2 has helped me but they mark up a lot easier than the trs2
An interesting observation. In what way have you noticed that? Face, crown? I haven't heard that yet
@@epgolfstudios scratch on the bottom and a scratch on the face only played twice with it weather it was a bit of mud on the tee I don’t know apart from that brilliant driver
@@patrickgilmour9826 yeah it would surprise me if that was gapping just from hitting balls and with grass. Must have nicked something on the ground id say. I've hit them loads indoors and haven't marked anything yet
Low efficiency is probably because he has far too much dynamic loft at impact
On the ones where he leaves the face open yes but when Josh managed to square the face the loft was actually quite low. And efficiency still generally remained quite low. So yes absolutely you're correct that would contribute but there were still other things occurring I would say.
This is a waste....skinny jeans with a gut haha. He is all over the face. Maybe the GT2 would be better
Yikes, what ever happened to body positivity?
Any other cute outfits for your dog btw?
Social media dude, there's always a few muppets out there, don't worry bout it 😂 I've had to learn to deal with stupid pointless comments 😂
@@epgolfstudios everything I stated is facts. He has a gut and wears skinny jeans...he is all over the face he needs the GT2 for forgiveness.
Though the GT2 call is a great shout if we want to have a 5000rpm driver, outstanding contribution to the chat pal 😂
@@uga83joe they're not even jeans 😂 also there is no difference in forgiveness between the GT2 and GT3. That is a fact
Blah blah blah. Long winded. Shorten these things up. 36 minutes to babble. Condense these pls.
I put a poll out on insta about this and was very surprised by 75% of people saying this length is absolutely fine. I will be doing some short video testing soon, but unfortunately it seems your opinion sits in the minority category.
Also that's a pretty terrible way of wording and structuring the feedback. Just makes you come across as a bit of a knob. Maybe put a little bit of thought into it next time 👍 appreciate it
These videos serve more than one purpose, obviously they inform the viewer, one persons long winded, is essential information to others. Also it gives the viewer a great understanding of what to expect if you visit Ross and have a fitting, having done that, the fitting was infinitely better than fittings ive had elsewhere. Attention to detail when making a major purchase is critical, to each their own
@@Pud56 thanks Pud 👌 and yes detail is super key in all aspects of golf
Don't need to take 40 min to do this 10 at most do you think people gone listen to all of this. Nope
No one is forcing you to watch it dude 👍
Literally says on title... mega in depth test...
@epgolfstudios if you want to make a movie go to Hollywood. Keep simple short and to point. No body wants to look at you.
I beg to differ, I get messages all the time from people who say they only want to look at me....🤷 Gotta give the people what they want
@epgolfstudios must be family members hoping somebody will pay you. There tired of paying your bills.