To answer the 600 of you who asked where Bridgestone is, they couldn't get me the new Blizzak 6 before I started the test AT THE END OF LAST YEAR! I'll be sure to test it next year. Also go review your tyres www.tyrereviews.com/submit.htm?match=Tyre-reviews%2C-tests-and-ratings---Tyre-reviews-and-ratings
Have you actually driven on any of the Blizzaks even in a non comparison test situation? I’m always curious cos that’s what I’ve mostly used over the years.
Without Bridgestone it's just not right. 🤷 Bought Blizzak 6 anyway, since I feel other's are getting old, and Pirelli is probably making better compound for the first batch. They've been crappy many years in the past, not trusting them. 😁 Anyway, first winter test I didn't watch in a long time. And you have to stop praising Michelin, by now it's obvious that they are paying you. 😂
the test is not worth much if you are going to drive in actual snow and ice. as `nordic` tires are much better for this. the same brands have nordic tires as well
Great job! Since the tyre performance highly depends on temperature it would be interesting to include, if possible, also the dry tests (breaking and handling) in cold conditions (dry and under 7 degrees Celsius). Very few people keep the winter tires in summer, so dry and 23 degrees for winter tires test doesn’t bring too much value.
he said they tested dry in two different temperature for all the tires. also you would be surprised how many people leave their winter tires on for too long here in the US lol
Be interesting to see how the US versions of some of these tyres stack up as well - can be some quite big differences between the same named tyre in the US vs other region markets especially EU/UK, one factor being that regulations in the US often mean tyres come with more starting tread in the US.
I have been buying in sets of 4 for each successive vehicle I've owned since 2002. Both FWD coupes and RWD trucks. Excellent overall capabilities on very hard packed snow (which is hell to drive on with plain all season tire if you have to navigate curve and stop) and ice (where I live Freezing Rain is not uncommon and it's..fun.. trying to go uphill or downhill when the road is exactly perfect for a game of Curling. Even 4-5 years old Blizzak (I believe I last bought DM something) and the Sipes worn away at the edges and still keep control of the heavily loaded vehicle. I'm driving past people going sideways and sliding back down the slight hills. I tried the 2002 era Blizzak at 80kph on bad road, no issues though I obviously don't recommend driving fast in winter my road was empty and a frozen farm field to land in if it didn't navigate the curve (which it took in stride) (FWD Ford escort 5spd coupe on balanced rims and aligned). My current vehicle isn't possible to buy Blizzak so I have to try another brand. I found out last winter that just because you have AWD and 4WD option you slide quickly on bad road with all season tires. I mean navigation of turns and stopping is bad on ice without dedicated tire type.
Agreed. A family friend recently put CC2's on her VW Atlas (I know, a massively different sized vehicle) and so far they've been impressed. She's not a Group B Rallye driver, nor do we get the kind of snow on the test track (sadly. I hate this state's nazi approach to snow removal) but it's good to now she'll have all the needed performance from an all season when they do travel to places with more snow in the winter for skiing.
@@johnhufnagelYou're not talking about Luxembourg by any chance? The roads here are white during the winter months but, except for a few days, the roads are only white and slippery because of all the salt. It's absolute madness!
I live in Jura mountains and something really dangerous is not cold snow, but this wet snow you find when the temperature is between 0°c and -10°c. I've used many brands of tyres. I finished my Michelin PA5 last year and mounted Continental 870p. Michelin perform really well in cold snow but are very slippy above 60km/h in wet snow. Continental are much better in wet snow, regarding maneuverability in curves and give a better grip in these poor conditions. I had the same feeling as Michelin PA5 with my previous Nokian wr SUV 4. Very good in deep and cold snow, but poor in wet snow. Under -10°c, the snowflakes structure is very different than in wet snow. Cold snow offers really better handling than wet snow.
We also struggle with this extremely wet snow in mountains of the northwest. It can be extremely slippery and result in what I call “slush-o-planing” when the snow has liquid water in it. Dry packed snow is easy to drive on - especially with winter tires.
I think this is a really good point for people in many regions. I love the reviews from @tyrereviews partly as he is so clear that different people have different priorities. I run winter tyres in UK winters partly to avoid the small chance of getting stuck in snow, but mainly as UHP summer tyres suck on a powerful RWD car below about 5 degrees, in the wet they spin up all the time in normal driving. Winters are way more secure. But I want a winter tyre optimised for wet and dry roads really, we will never get that < minus10 snow you talk about! We do get the slushy crap and Nokian used to talk about "slush planing" and design tyres to handle it. It would be hard to test.
@@jamesmartinwyatt "But I want a winter tyre optimised for wet and dry roads" Those are called all season tyres, and we do get them...... Not UHP ones unfortunately, but nevertheless, surely better than a winter for UK winters & putting power down as you mention!
@@kaptinkeiff Maybe - for normal people and normal cars. I used to run them on lightish FWD family cars without issues, and in fact in snow they were better than my RWD cars on full winters. But on a powerful heavy car ( I haven't had a daily driver with
Continental outperforms everything especially in wet conditions. Unfortunatelly, i have a feeling that new "development" brings nothing and older models performed better
it's interesting to see how so many tires are converging on a similar tread pattern; that all to familiar V shape is becoming prevalent across so many categories of tires.
@@aligator651 Clearly it does. I'm wondering if it's a case of convergent theories, or just copycatting. I know the Flying V has the inherent advantage of forcing water away from the tread, but is that going to be the direction all tires go to in the future? A part of me wants to see something new and novel in tread pattern design. It's too bad someone can't magically take one of the cheap/budget tires and mold/remold them with like a CC2 pattern. leave everything else the same (compounds, construction, etc.) but just change the pattern. would they suck less?
@@johnhufnagel It's a tried and true pattern and as the developement goes on, the designs simply converge. There will always be some variation depending on the focus of each tyre. I'm sure, that with AI and lots of human brain power, there are possible designs that are better at everything, but manufacturing processes might then be too expensive to actually go through with it. At least for now. Because no mere mortal would want to pay 1000 USD/€/whatever equivalent currency for a single tyre. I can see however, that certain luxury brands would order something. Like the 20000€ per set tyres for the Bugatti Veyron/Chiron. And then maybe after a while, the technology and design may or may not trickle down to more affordable tyres for the regular person.
Astute observation. Going back a generation or so, all the ultra high performance winter tyres were asymmetric. The Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4, the Pirelli P Zero Winter (which never seems to have been tested), the Continental WinterContact TS 860 S by example. But the latest versions for all 3 brands are traditional V tread patterns. I always felt the asymmetric tread pattern provided better steering response on dry roads than the V pattern used lower down the performance rung. In this test, the only asymmetric was the Goodride ZuperSnow, and that wasn't great anywhere.
@@glisse499 My guess here is that it all comes down to 'emissions'. Assymetric seems to be noisier, so to look better on the labels, tires get Vs and lower tread (winter tyres now around 7 mm instead of 9 mm that we saw in the assymetric UHPs a while ago). Maybe I'm wrong, but the V and low tread seems to have gained popularity when noise and fuel classes on the EU labels got their update a few years ago.
Missing Bridgestone Blizzak 6, Michelin Alpin 7 and Conti Winter Contact 8s. The Hankook is the best cost wise, I can get an RS3 for 50% cheaper than Michelin/Bridgestone/Pirelli.
Yeah, I also want to see those new models tested, especially the 8 S, but unfortunately it is not available in this size (and it had not been announced a few months ago when Jonathan stated the test).
I’ve been buying tyres based on your recommendations since 2011 ❤ Currently driving: Michelin Cross Climate 2 on a RWD saloon. Can get around in the snow very well, and the rest of the year they’re fine!
I bought kleber quadraxer 3 based on last years test on AS tires. They are awsome in the snow, good on dry, slightly wore on wet and that noise on wet like birds wistling. Great and cheaper alternative to CC2. Some say it is a winter tire with summer homologatian but I guess it is not true.Overoll, Ttey perform great and the proce is so wallet friendly. If I had known that Bfgoodrich were the same tire as Kleber I'd have bought bfgoodrich advantage. Great test I personally love them.
Would love to see a van tyre comparison, something like a transit custom and load up 1000kg in the back. I’ve found that load rated tyres under the same name use very different tread patterns and I don’t always get good performance from them in the winter
Currently on Michelin cross climates on my work van- they paid for them! You should try and test van tyres as there are petrol heads that have to drive vans too
What about bridgestone 😔 ADAC didn't test them, OAMTC didnt test them, and now you. Thankfully the new AutoBild test included them. Also if you will have the time, please consider testing this year in a smaller size (for example the ts870 seems to be performing a lot better than ts870p, it was the autobild test winner). I would like to see more data on the Blizzak 6, as well as other premium winter tyres not included. That aside, good test as always, keep up the good work, i really enjoy your channel
If i am not mistaken one of the cars we have at work has those Bridgestones. This spring (still all cars on winter tyres) we were at a drivers safety training. And sure it was the lightest car we had with us, but it was the absolute best in stopping on the wet glide surface that emulates snow people have already driven on. -> hard packed slippery snow. It was a Skoda Octavia hybrid. The other cars were a Skody Enyak EV, a Toyota Landcruiser (called Prado on some markets and ours is in 3rd world country setup with a manual gearbox, halogen lights ect. but still only 2 years old) and 2 VW Busses. The worst in stopping was one of the VW busses, but it had "cargo winter tyres" and they are quite shitty, o matter the manufacturer. So i think you would not be goiing the wrong direction in buying those Blizzak 6 for a passenger car. That said, i had Bridgestone LM25 4x4 winter tyres on my private car for the last 2 winters. (they were the only ones available in my size from a reputable manufacturer when i needed new tyres.) And they were among the worst winter tyres i have used so far. -> If you stick to the mentioned newer ones i think you will be fine, older "designs" like the LM25 4x4 maybe not so much.
Exactly! I'm incredibly curious about the performance of the latter two - sadly, no tests out there yet. Really had hoped that TyreReviews, my favourite testers by far!, would have included them. Would be awesome if you could at least drive them within the next weeks and give us your opinion about them!
tires tested here as far as I can see.. is european tires. not nordic. so they will be a much bigger compromise summer/winter. for actual snow/ice/cold performance get a nordic tire from a good brand. the comprehensive test result for studdless.. in my country for 2024. 1. Goodyear Ultragrip Ice 3 2. Continental VikingContact 8 3. Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 4. Michelin X-Ice Snow a lot of criteria is in here..17 of them. like dry, wet performance, noise etc. the best tire for actual grip on snow and ice was the nokians. studded are better tho if legal
I hope that next time you will also test tires from companies such as: Bridgestone, Dunlop, Nokian, Vredestein, Yokohama together with Michelin Alpin 7, Goodyear, Continental, Pirelli, Hankook.
I also hope there is a cheapee or at least "bang for buck" in there as well. Living in a mild-ish climate, I don't spend a lot on snowies and dont need "the best of the best". Usually 3 months of the year
The hankook is what you are looking for, it is not a premium brand. At least when I bought mine. It is not dirt cheap, but compared to the pirelli, continental and michellins, it is a normally priced tire, sitting in the middle of the price range
Lots of good information as usual and this site helped me decide what tire to buy for my new Subaru Forester. Great videos if a person is looking for a premium winter tire for safety and handling. I bought a all weather tire the Michelin Cross climate 2 and so far impressed but winter in Northern Alberta Canada is my test track and it will determine my thoughts better. Slush is very common up here now and it can be very dangerous when passing because your slipping and hydroplaning all at the same time plus your wind sheild gets slushed up at the same time + some of the coldest temperatures on the planet. Our slush will not freeze even when -25 C below ( Iknow hard to believe but that is the reality of using potash salt on the roads).
Could always be wrong, but its common knowledge in scandinavia that nordic winter tires are so far ahead theyre the only ones worth getting. would absolutely love seeing some good 3rd party testing on them!
I get that the logistics certainly are challenging, however a wet test in summery conditions doesn't make too much sense, doesn't it? Wet testing is super important for winter tyres, but rather in the range of roughly -4 to +10 degrees celcius. I guess this wet ranking could be completely different more wintery conditions.
yeah completely agree, testing has to be a huge challenge finding somewhere with the right temperatures when you arrive, having all the tyres available etc. I was looking at the wet braking graphs at 7:51 and 7:56 and you can see the winter tyres improving in the cooler temps and the summer tyre dropping away, which makes sense. I believe about 8c is the point at where summer tyres should start to reduce in performance too, so I think the winter tyres should only get better as the temperature drops.
Really nice test as usual. Being upp in the northern half of Sweden, the big devate is studded or studless. Having to rely on the tyres in all winter weather. Performance studless vs studded on ice and misery would be dope!
Very handy video once again. Don't need new winter tyres this year, but next year they might need to be replaced again. On my previous car I last had the Continental TS860 tyres. They were fine, but they felt very "average" in snow, they were great in the dry though even with higher temperatures (15C+). Previously I had Falken winter tyres on that car and they were awesome in the snow and cold rainy weather. Compared to the Continental's, they were way, way better, more grip, more confidence inspiring etc. However, if daytime temperatures reached around 15C (in the dry) they fell off quite quickly, it felt like driving on chewing gum. My current car has Bridgestone winter tyres since when I bought the car and last winter I was pleasantly surprised by them. Not the best I've ever had, but very good in all conditions, also in the dry with higher temps. Looking at this test, I'm leaning towards the Pirelli's this time, which I'm surprised by. In my mind, from previous experience, Pirelli makes great UHP summer tyres that need some temperature to get them going. In the wet/cold they used to be way worse then UHP Goodyears for example. Winter tyres from Pirelli used to be crap, but damn have they improved.
Just fitted a set of Alpin 5's to our i20N Performance today, in preparation for the German winter. I'm really happy to see that it's still near the top. Initial impressions are super comfortable and soft compared to the OE Fitment Pirelli P Zero's... which should be the case, considering winter tyres have a softer compound, but I wasn't expecting such a notable difference in ride quality. Thank you for the informative and detailed reviews, keep up the excellent work.
I have the Cross Climate 2 tires on my vehicle, mostly because of their solid performance from watching these video reviews and I've been very happy with them, especially in the winter. I don't need the added cost and hassle of switching my tires around every 6 months. Good to see the latest tires from Pirelli are performing very well though. They've always been a decent tire, but for several years seemed to be kind of a forgotten option. Now they are back in the game with their latest offerings.
Thank you for making these great videos for tire nuts like me I research tires so much and end up so undecided so you really help me with every season tire I want. With that said I wish there was more options for 245/40r17 snow tires I've only found 1 name brand
Another Super Content Rich, Fun to watch review! Here in North Carolina - I only need All Season or All Weather, but enjoy these tests that show Winter Tire Capabilities as a benchmark for making a good choice. I will probably watch this a couple times thru to be sure i get all the data - Thanks for doing these!
Our weather isn't very different since I'm in Virginia. We don't get heavy snow often and I'm debating a UHP all-season. I'm torn between the Pilot Sport AS and DWS06+. I currently have the Contis on a couple cars but willing to try something else
@@timw2083 I put the Michelin's in 225/50 x 18 on my Acura TLX - They're Great but a bit noisy in that size vs a Grand touring All Season. My consider that when deciding on these Vs Conti's. Best
One question I’ve always had is what exactly is a High Performance or UHP winter tire? How exactly do they differ compared to a regular winter tire? Isn’t the goal of all winter tires to maximize traction on ice/snow above all else??? It just feels like a marketing term in my mind. Would love to see a video compare the different performance classes of winter tires. Like how does the Blizzak WS90 perform compared to the LS001. For summer tires it makes sense because we have high performance cars and race tracks that see far higher temps and very much demand those qualities. But that isn’t how people think of winter tires, or at least I don’t.
I've always thought the same, but then I bought my new daily car that has 300 BHP which I love to push hard at every chance I get. In my country we usually ride with winters tires at least 5 months of the year, so it only makes sense to find a high performance tire that will allow me to drive the way I want to.
Can I ask why did you do the dry braking test with winter tyres in 23.5C temperature? Wouldn't it be more relevant and precise if it was somewhere between -5 and +10C? You can easily do that just next to the winter test track on some smooth tarmac. Thanks for the answer and keep up the good work! Your test are the most reliable if some asks me ;)
Great review as always. I’d be curious out to get more data with the ultra high performance winters on wet and dry performance in colder temperatures such as 0-2 degrees. I use my pilot alpins in the winter but soon as the temps warm up I go back to summers anyway so any data above 7 degrees isn’t as helpful. Keep up the great work!
Bridgestone Blizzak 6, Michelin Alpin 7 are new models, sorry to hear that the Bridgestone could not be delivered on time, because they are always at the very top places, thank you for the detailed review.
Another fantastic testing. Thank you for a great job! Next time I would like to see Continental WinterContact 8 S along with already mentioned Blizzak 6. ❄
Any thoughts on testing tyres with mileage on them? I'm wondering if microtexturing skews new tyre testing results... as always really enjoy the channel, ty
You are the only one doing tire reviews worth watching... Everything else is just noise! haha Will there be a nordic-winter-only video coming out this winter?
Please do these tests in more common vehicles and tire sizes! While I understand that high performance cars bring the tires to their limits, it also means that most of us which don't have GTI's, M3's, Mustangs or Teslas are left wondering if the choice of tire we made is the best or not. I mean, only a few high performance cars have such 19" wheels with such thin sidewalls. Also the tire profile changes with the width often, look at the Hankook Winter i*cept RS3. My car has the same tire in the 195/55/R16 dimension and the profile is completely different. Is my tire comparable to the one you tested? Is it better or is it worse? By how much? If you'd test a 205/55 R16 or something close to that, I could maybe believe it's pretty much the same. I can only trust that the brand did a good job, nothing more.
Great video but i feel like dry and especially wet testing should be done in winter temperatures too for them to be representative. Testing them in warmer conditions in my opinion makes it confusing for many people who interpret it as them being crap compared to summer/all season tyres when they are simply outside of their comfort zone.
Well done Jonathan great job done again. i wonder will there be any content for motorcycle tyres? You know they are getting more and more popular but there is no all round comparison for motorcycle tyres
Seeing all the comments about not including Michelin Alpin 7 and Bridgestone Blizzak 6. Aren’t those touring tyres? This test is about UHP winter tyres. Michelin normally has the name Pilot for the sporty tyres.
These reviews are incredibly helpful. Thank you for doing them! Have you had a chance to test the Pirelli Scorpion Weatheractive? They're new and I've read they're as good as or even better than the CC2s.
I think Hankook evo3 is best price/perfomance tire in this top. Just get them on my 4x4 Kodiaq. In one week of usage in +/- 5-12C in primary dry conditions, all i can say, its good and quiet tire for normal regular driving. Waiting winter, will see how it handle.
Should I care about BMW homologation? It seems to greatly limit winter options. Or should I just purchase P0 in the correct size, regardless of homologation?
I always really appreciate your commitment to quality testing (blind testing, etc). But I'd like to encourage you to reconsider the way you graph your data. As I was taught years ago at university, graphs used to compare outcomes -- where the relative value is important, but being able to read the precise value from the graph is not -- should start at zero to give people the correct impression about the differences in the data.* The graph you show for rolling resistance is a perfect example. You say the rolling resistance of these winter tires is "almost identical", but the narrow range of the graph (8 to 10 versus 0 to 10) gives the impression of a significantly higher rolling resistance for the Pirelli and Hankook. If you can't bring yourself to go all the way to zero on the graphs because the bars will all look the same length (which I believe is exactly how they should look 😁), please consider at least showing a bit more in the zero direction so the small differences are exaggerated less. * Temperature can be one of a few exceptions to the "start graphs at zero" rule. The zero point in Celsius and Fahrenheit are just arbitrary, and graphing from absolute zero is probably not useful as people have no intuitive concept of what absolute zero is. The same argument might apply to noise levels, but I think starting graphs at 0 dB is probably still a good idea. One last thing: What happened to the values under the Straight Aquaplaning graph? 🤣
Great test! I noticed that Michelin Alpin 7 wasn't included. Any idea when you'll be testing those? Looking forward to seeing how they perform compared to the others!
This amazing. Every single time when i watch this channel review and it comes to noise level and comfort - bad weather or something else. Information which are put on lable are totally out of space. 71dB on Michelin sounds diffrent than Goodyear and we are talking about outside noise! You are using Golf GTI in most of test. Put bloody sound matter and register loudness, next make remark it was done in this or that conditions (weather and what speed). Many tires are ok on 50km/h but when you are reaching 100km/h they starting to be loud like hell. Also in EU (almost everywhere) they are using this rough tarmac which creat lot of sound. Many people (including me and my friends) looking for not the best tire but quiet one especially then manufactures remove any sound isolation material from cars to fullfill emission standards.
I've owned multiple sets of Michelin Pilot Alpin thru the years and have always been amazed at the grip levels in the dry. On my daily twisty on-ramps it would only be a few MPH under my summer tire variants when pushed. Very good in the snow... initially. My last set only got me thru 3 winters, which was appx 10k total miles (I don't drive a lot). That third winter I could barely get up a hill I had no trouble w/ the first 2 years (in the same car and more snow). I know winters don't last incredibly long but was sorely disappointed. My PA4's before that gave me 5 winters, but only ~15k miles. My only (big) gripe w/ the tires.
Seems like for those areas where you have mild winters with only a few days of snow, running AllSeasons instead of winter tyres might be a sensible choise. And summer tyres for the rest of the year. Any thoughts on this?
Thank you again. I am looking forward to your next video. Summer tires remain the best in the summer. But in a mild climate, with wet and dry days with a week of snow, i am getting the impression that a yearly change over from summer to the best all weather tires is way better than to winter tires. I am looking for safety (breaking), comfort and rolling resistance (EV Suv). Can you give your view on that in the next video?
This is exactly what I was thinking of last 2 weeks 💙 Would you recommend to go for Michelin Cross Climate 2 and forget about changing tyres twice a year or to get Michelin Alpin 5 for winter in Berlin (not more than 2 weeks of snow a year) on 320d and Pilot Sport 5 for summer? I am not racing but occasionally do drive 200+ on autobahns in summer time.
I got the Hankook tires last year. They are pretty good indeed. I got a great deal on them and all 4 tires cost me the same as 2 of the Michelin tires.
Great review as always - is there another on the way for high-performance (16 or 17s) tyres on the way? Have you managed to test Alpin 7 or Blizzak 6 in time for the upcoming winter season?
Unrelated but we're dying for more info on the hoosier track attacks. They've been out and available for some time, figured by now you'd have a more in depth review and comparison with lap times, how it responds to heat etc.. we're all listening and waiting intently
I sold my winterset last year. They were just catching dust in my garage. For a few years now we have had warm winters. 10°C and it only goes to 0°C during the night and only 2 or 3 times during the day. I'm back to runing all seasons year around.
Have had my Pilot Alpin 5's for a few years now in OE size on my Macan GTS....they are an outstanding tire. Really gives up so little compared to the summer Latitude Sport 3's (OE N0 tires) and don't have that squishy/noisy feeling like most of the Michelin XIce tires I've ran on other vehicles.
For the other car I have a blizzak lm005. Superb tire. Quiet, safe, fun. The new one is Giulia. Should I go for Italian tire then? :> Brighstones are a tad cheaper.
As always great testing. I'm wondering if it would be useful for people on a tight budget, if you done some tests based on a price (real world prices not RRP ). Maybe this could help those that just buy the cheapest tyre instead of paying a little bit more for a big increase in safety.
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To answer the 600 of you who asked where Bridgestone is, they couldn't get me the new Blizzak 6 before I started the test AT THE END OF LAST YEAR! I'll be sure to test it next year.
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Cannot wait already ! And for the Alpin 7 also !
Have you actually driven on any of the Blizzaks even in a non comparison test situation? I’m always curious cos that’s what I’ve mostly used over the years.
@@adriangale yes, I've tested them a bunch of times. The LM005 was very good. I've not tested the US only WS90 (yet)
What about Vredstain Wintrac Pro +, since it finished top 4 last year it made sense to include it?
Without Bridgestone it's just not right. 🤷 Bought Blizzak 6 anyway, since I feel other's are getting old, and Pirelli is probably making better compound for the first batch. They've been crappy many years in the past, not trusting them. 😁
Anyway, first winter test I didn't watch in a long time. And you have to stop praising Michelin, by now it's obvious that they are paying you. 😂
Work can wait! New winter tyre test is here 😊
Copy that ...
The Pirelli really nailed it with this tire. Best in a majority of tests and the quietest to boot. Nice job.
Lately, they got it. First, winning the all-seasons segment with the SF3 and now also best place in winter tyres.
the test is not worth much if you are going to drive in actual snow and ice. as `nordic` tires are much better for this. the same brands have nordic tires as well
Great job! Since the tyre performance highly depends on temperature it would be interesting to include, if possible, also the dry tests (breaking and handling) in cold conditions (dry and under 7 degrees Celsius).
Very few people keep the winter tires in summer, so dry and 23 degrees for winter tires test doesn’t bring too much value.
I remembe he made a test in the past. Turns out summer tires will still perform better in the dry even at 0 or -5
he said they tested dry in two different temperature for all the tires. also you would be surprised how many people leave their winter tires on for too long here in the US lol
If you could test Bridgestone Blizzaks for your North American audience, we'd appreciate it. Nice test to watch, though
he has tested it last year: ruclips.net/video/20t_giYUyTc/видео.htmlsi=MaCrHK14nNzlVL16 Best winter tyre :)
Be interesting to see how the US versions of some of these tyres stack up as well - can be some quite big differences between the same named tyre in the US vs other region markets especially EU/UK, one factor being that regulations in the US often mean tyres come with more starting tread in the US.
Blizzaks aren’t sold in Euroland? Been using blizzies since the late 90’s.
@@macilaci01There's a Blizzak 6 now.
I have been buying in sets of 4 for each successive vehicle I've owned since 2002. Both FWD coupes and RWD trucks.
Excellent overall capabilities on very hard packed snow (which is hell to drive on with plain all season tire if you have to navigate curve and stop) and ice (where I live Freezing Rain is not uncommon and it's..fun.. trying to go uphill or downhill when the road is exactly perfect for a game of Curling.
Even 4-5 years old Blizzak (I believe I last bought DM something) and the Sipes worn away at the edges and still keep control of the heavily loaded vehicle. I'm driving past people going sideways and sliding back down the slight hills. I tried the 2002 era Blizzak at 80kph on bad road, no issues though I obviously don't recommend driving fast in winter my road was empty and a frozen farm field to land in if it didn't navigate the curve (which it took in stride) (FWD Ford escort 5spd coupe on balanced rims and aligned).
My current vehicle isn't possible to buy Blizzak so I have to try another brand.
I found out last winter that just because you have AWD and 4WD option you slide quickly on bad road with all season tires. I mean navigation of turns and stopping is bad on ice without dedicated tire type.
One of the most important results in this test was that the best All Season tire(CC2) really is a decent winter tire.
Agreed. A family friend recently put CC2's on her VW Atlas (I know, a massively different sized vehicle) and so far they've been impressed. She's not a Group B Rallye driver, nor do we get the kind of snow on the test track (sadly. I hate this state's nazi approach to snow removal) but it's good to now she'll have all the needed performance from an all season when they do travel to places with more snow in the winter for skiing.
@@johnhufnagelYou're not talking about Luxembourg by any chance?
The roads here are white during the winter months but, except for a few days, the roads are only white and slippery because of all the salt. It's absolute madness!
Not only decent in winter, but better then winter tires anywhere except of snow? By actually a very wide margin. And still 3rd/4th on snow.
@@B4ndItOo Better then winter tires?? Where? At 20°C+ ? Look 7:20 again.
" decent winter tire " but not better for Winter time.
I live in Jura mountains and something really dangerous is not cold snow, but this wet snow you find when the temperature is between 0°c and -10°c.
I've used many brands of tyres. I finished my Michelin PA5 last year and mounted Continental 870p.
Michelin perform really well in cold snow but are very slippy above 60km/h in wet snow.
Continental are much better in wet snow, regarding maneuverability in curves and give a better grip in these poor conditions.
I had the same feeling as Michelin PA5 with my previous Nokian wr SUV 4. Very good in deep and cold snow, but poor in wet snow.
Under -10°c, the snowflakes structure is very different than in wet snow. Cold snow offers really better handling than wet snow.
We also struggle with this extremely wet snow in mountains of the northwest. It can be extremely slippery and result in what I call “slush-o-planing” when the snow has liquid water in it. Dry packed snow is easy to drive on - especially with winter tires.
I think this is a really good point for people in many regions. I love the reviews from @tyrereviews partly as he is so clear that different people have different priorities. I run winter tyres in UK winters partly to avoid the small chance of getting stuck in snow, but mainly as UHP summer tyres suck on a powerful RWD car below about 5 degrees, in the wet they spin up all the time in normal driving. Winters are way more secure. But I want a winter tyre optimised for wet and dry roads really, we will never get that < minus10 snow you talk about! We do get the slushy crap and Nokian used to talk about "slush planing" and design tyres to handle it. It would be hard to test.
@@jamesmartinwyatt "But I want a winter tyre optimised for wet and dry roads"
Those are called all season tyres, and we do get them......
Not UHP ones unfortunately, but nevertheless, surely better than a winter for UK winters & putting power down as you mention!
@@kaptinkeiff Maybe - for normal people and normal cars. I used to run them on lightish FWD family cars without issues, and in fact in snow they were better than my RWD cars on full winters. But on a powerful heavy car ( I haven't had a daily driver with
Continental outperforms everything especially in wet conditions. Unfortunatelly, i have a feeling that new "development" brings nothing and older models performed better
it's interesting to see how so many tires are converging on a similar tread pattern; that all to familiar V shape is becoming prevalent across so many categories of tires.
I guess the design just works 🤷♂️
@@aligator651 Clearly it does. I'm wondering if it's a case of convergent theories, or just copycatting. I know the Flying V has the inherent advantage of forcing water away from the tread, but is that going to be the direction all tires go to in the future? A part of me wants to see something new and novel in tread pattern design.
It's too bad someone can't magically take one of the cheap/budget tires and mold/remold them with like a CC2 pattern. leave everything else the same (compounds, construction, etc.) but just change the pattern. would they suck less?
@@johnhufnagel It's a tried and true pattern and as the developement goes on, the designs simply converge. There will always be some variation depending on the focus of each tyre. I'm sure, that with AI and lots of human brain power, there are possible designs that are better at everything, but manufacturing processes might then be too expensive to actually go through with it. At least for now. Because no mere mortal would want to pay 1000 USD/€/whatever equivalent currency for a single tyre. I can see however, that certain luxury brands would order something. Like the 20000€ per set tyres for the Bugatti Veyron/Chiron. And then maybe after a while, the technology and design may or may not trickle down to more affordable tyres for the regular person.
Astute observation. Going back a generation or so, all the ultra high performance winter tyres were asymmetric. The Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4, the Pirelli P Zero Winter (which never seems to have been tested), the Continental WinterContact TS 860 S by example. But the latest versions for all 3 brands are traditional V tread patterns.
I always felt the asymmetric tread pattern provided better steering response on dry roads than the V pattern used lower down the performance rung.
In this test, the only asymmetric was the Goodride ZuperSnow, and that wasn't great anywhere.
@@glisse499 My guess here is that it all comes down to 'emissions'. Assymetric seems to be noisier, so to look better on the labels, tires get Vs and lower tread (winter tyres now around 7 mm instead of 9 mm that we saw in the assymetric UHPs a while ago). Maybe I'm wrong, but the V and low tread seems to have gained popularity when noise and fuel classes on the EU labels got their update a few years ago.
Missing Bridgestone Blizzak 6, Michelin Alpin 7 and Conti Winter Contact 8s. The Hankook is the best cost wise, I can get an RS3 for 50% cheaper than Michelin/Bridgestone/Pirelli.
Yeah, I also want to see those new models tested, especially the 8 S, but unfortunately it is not available in this size (and it had not been announced a few months ago when Jonathan stated the test).
I just opened YT on my break, first thing I see is this. Great thing my breaks are 15 mins
I’ve been buying tyres based on your recommendations since 2011 ❤
Currently driving: Michelin Cross Climate 2 on a RWD saloon. Can get around in the snow very well, and the rest of the year they’re fine!
Glad they're working for you!
I bought kleber quadraxer 3 based on last years test on AS tires. They are awsome in the snow, good on dry, slightly wore on wet and that noise on wet like birds wistling. Great and cheaper alternative to CC2. Some say it is a winter tire with summer homologatian but I guess it is not true.Overoll, Ttey perform great and the proce is so wallet friendly. If I had known that Bfgoodrich were the same tire as Kleber I'd have bought bfgoodrich advantage. Great test I personally love them.
You're the man! Thank you for keeping us informed and safe!
Would love to see a van tyre comparison, something like a transit custom and load up 1000kg in the back.
I’ve found that load rated tyres under the same name use very different tread patterns and I don’t always get good performance from them in the winter
I believe there's a few on the site if you're interested
Currently on Michelin cross climates on my work van- they paid for them! You should try and test van tyres as there are petrol heads that have to drive vans too
What about bridgestone 😔
ADAC didn't test them, OAMTC didnt test them, and now you. Thankfully the new AutoBild test included them.
Also if you will have the time, please consider testing this year in a smaller size (for example the ts870 seems to be performing a lot better than ts870p, it was the autobild test winner). I would like to see more data on the Blizzak 6, as well as other premium winter tyres not included. That aside, good test as always, keep up the good work, i really enjoy your channel
It's quite hard to get Bridgestones into test. But I assume it's not that difficult just to buy them.
I think most of the reviews are done end of previous year so all new tires are skipped and reviewed one year later
If i am not mistaken one of the cars we have at work has those Bridgestones.
This spring (still all cars on winter tyres) we were at a drivers safety training.
And sure it was the lightest car we had with us, but it was the absolute best in stopping on the wet glide surface that emulates snow people have already driven on. -> hard packed slippery snow.
It was a Skoda Octavia hybrid. The other cars were a Skody Enyak EV, a Toyota Landcruiser (called Prado on some markets and ours is in 3rd world country setup with a manual gearbox, halogen lights ect. but still only 2 years old) and 2 VW Busses.
The worst in stopping was one of the VW busses, but it had "cargo winter tyres" and they are quite shitty, o matter the manufacturer.
So i think you would not be goiing the wrong direction in buying those Blizzak 6 for a passenger car.
That said, i had Bridgestone LM25 4x4 winter tyres on my private car for the last 2 winters. (they were the only ones available in my size from a reputable manufacturer when i needed new tyres.)
And they were among the worst winter tyres i have used so far.
-> If you stick to the mentioned newer ones i think you will be fine, older "designs" like the LM25 4x4 maybe not so much.
@@daliborzak2485 blizzak 6 and alpin 7 were available only in July for this size and later for the 235
Good to see the Hankook in there. Its a relative newcomer, so helpful to see how it stacks up against the 'establishment'. Great test, thank you.
It’s really good for the price
What about new Bridgestone Blizzak 6 and new Conti Winter Contact 8s and new Michelin Alpin 7
Exactly!
I'm incredibly curious about the performance of the latter two - sadly, no tests out there yet. Really had hoped that TyreReviews, my favourite testers by far!, would have included them.
Would be awesome if you could at least drive them within the next weeks and give us your opinion about them!
Obviously he did these tests with what he had at disposal.. the rest will probably follow..
@@mralexlex and maybe also the cinturato Winter 3 for the next year test!
tires tested here as far as I can see.. is european tires. not nordic. so they will be a much bigger compromise summer/winter. for actual snow/ice/cold performance get a nordic tire from a good brand. the comprehensive test result for studdless.. in my country for 2024. 1. Goodyear Ultragrip Ice 3 2. Continental VikingContact 8 3. Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 4. Michelin X-Ice Snow a lot of criteria is in here..17 of them. like dry, wet performance, noise etc. the best tire for actual grip on snow and ice was the nokians. studded are better tho if legal
some good brands was not part of the test
Were you able to test new Bridgestone blizzak 6 enliten tyres?
they weren't ready in time for this test sadly. Next year
Ordered the Zero Winter 2 a week ago. I'm so glad they get good test results! :-)
Nice let me know how you find them in the real world!
Did the same! Already waiting for the rims I also ordered. Going to be a delightful ride with these I hope!
I hope that next time you will also test tires from companies such as: Bridgestone, Dunlop, Nokian, Vredestein, Yokohama together with Michelin Alpin 7, Goodyear, Continental, Pirelli, Hankook.
didn't need new tires this year, but still found it interesting
I hope a "normal" winter tire test is coming up. Hi po winters are normally not fitted to the general car population (x-ice, hakkapeliitta etc)
I agree. I'm hoping one comes out with the more standard winter tires as I feel the majority of people use those.
I also hope there is a cheapee or at least "bang for buck" in there as well. Living in a mild-ish climate, I don't spend a lot on snowies and dont need "the best of the best". Usually 3 months of the year
The hankook is what you are looking for, it is not a premium brand. At least when I bought mine. It is not dirt cheap, but compared to the pirelli, continental and michellins, it is a normally priced tire, sitting in the middle of the price range
Lots of good information as usual and this site helped me decide what tire to buy for my new Subaru Forester. Great videos if a person is looking for a premium winter tire for safety and handling.
I bought a all weather tire the Michelin Cross climate 2 and so far impressed but winter in Northern Alberta Canada is my test track and it will determine my thoughts better. Slush is very common up here now and it can be very dangerous when passing because your slipping and hydroplaning all at the same time plus your wind sheild gets slushed up at the same time + some of the coldest temperatures on the planet. Our slush will not freeze even when -25 C below ( Iknow hard to believe but that is the reality of using potash salt on the roads).
You are the best of the best of the best!😊
Mate, good job! You are doing a very important job for all of us!!!! Keep doing it! Super nice to watch these reviews🎉
Great test as always! Will there be a nordic winter tyre test soon?
Hopefully including studless nordic tires? And compared to a uhp winter tire and maybe an all season?
I'm afraid not from me this year :(
@tyrereviews When and if you do next year. Please include new nordic tyres to see if they are actually any better.
Could always be wrong, but its common knowledge in scandinavia that nordic winter tires are so far ahead theyre the only ones worth getting. would absolutely love seeing some good 3rd party testing on them!
I get that the logistics certainly are challenging, however a wet test in summery conditions doesn't make too much sense, doesn't it? Wet testing is super important for winter tyres, but rather in the range of roughly -4 to +10 degrees celcius. I guess this wet ranking could be completely different more wintery conditions.
yeah completely agree, testing has to be a huge challenge finding somewhere with the right temperatures when you arrive, having all the tyres available etc. I was looking at the wet braking graphs at 7:51 and 7:56 and you can see the winter tyres improving in the cooler temps and the summer tyre dropping away, which makes sense. I believe about 8c is the point at where summer tyres should start to reduce in performance too, so I think the winter tyres should only get better as the temperature drops.
I agree, slush and snowmelt is a different monster
Sadly I've not found the ability to control the weather yet
@@tyrereviews yet 😎
@@tyrereviews yeah ya did ruclips.net/video/bKtnczk8Mxk/видео.htmlsi=rXuc7CP995G92NwZ
LOVE the channel. Will you **PLEASE** add a category/video for quiet tires.
Really nice test as usual. Being upp in the northern half of Sweden, the big devate is studded or studless. Having to rely on the tyres in all winter weather. Performance studless vs studded on ice and misery would be dope!
A behind the scenes video of a tyre test would be an amazing insight
As would a 'Tyre Reviews Bloopers Video' ! I am sure there are some good out-takes available. I'd watch it!
Very handy video once again. Don't need new winter tyres this year, but next year they might need to be replaced again. On my previous car I last had the Continental TS860 tyres. They were fine, but they felt very "average" in snow, they were great in the dry though even with higher temperatures (15C+). Previously I had Falken winter tyres on that car and they were awesome in the snow and cold rainy weather. Compared to the Continental's, they were way, way better, more grip, more confidence inspiring etc. However, if daytime temperatures reached around 15C (in the dry) they fell off quite quickly, it felt like driving on chewing gum.
My current car has Bridgestone winter tyres since when I bought the car and last winter I was pleasantly surprised by them. Not the best I've ever had, but very good in all conditions, also in the dry with higher temps. Looking at this test, I'm leaning towards the Pirelli's this time, which I'm surprised by. In my mind, from previous experience, Pirelli makes great UHP summer tyres that need some temperature to get them going. In the wet/cold they used to be way worse then UHP Goodyears for example. Winter tyres from Pirelli used to be crap, but damn have they improved.
Just fitted a set of Alpin 5's to our i20N Performance today, in preparation for the German winter. I'm really happy to see that it's still near the top. Initial impressions are super comfortable and soft compared to the OE Fitment Pirelli P Zero's... which should be the case, considering winter tyres have a softer compound, but I wasn't expecting such a notable difference in ride quality.
Thank you for the informative and detailed reviews, keep up the excellent work.
Hi. Great video! Thank you for that! What about the Michelin Alpin 7?
I have the Cross Climate 2 tires on my vehicle, mostly because of their solid performance from watching these video reviews and I've been very happy with them, especially in the winter. I don't need the added cost and hassle of switching my tires around every 6 months. Good to see the latest tires from Pirelli are performing very well though. They've always been a decent tire, but for several years seemed to be kind of a forgotten option. Now they are back in the game with their latest offerings.
Love the CC2s … best universal tire except for high northern areas where a proper high performance snow tire would prob be best.
Same, we bought them for our crosstrek after seeing it on this channel and it’s been a great call.
Thank you for making these great videos for tire nuts like me I research tires so much and end up so undecided so you really help me with every season tire I want. With that said I wish there was more options for 245/40r17 snow tires I've only found 1 name brand
Another Super Content Rich, Fun to watch review!
Here in North Carolina - I only need All Season or All Weather, but enjoy these tests that show Winter Tire Capabilities as a benchmark for making a good choice. I will probably watch this a couple times thru to be sure i get all the data - Thanks for doing these!
Our weather isn't very different since I'm in Virginia. We don't get heavy snow often and I'm debating a UHP all-season. I'm torn between the Pilot Sport AS and DWS06+. I currently have the Contis on a couple cars but willing to try something else
@@timw2083 I put the Michelin's in 225/50 x 18 on my Acura TLX - They're Great but a bit noisy in that size vs a Grand touring All Season. My consider that when deciding on these Vs Conti's. Best
One question I’ve always had is what exactly is a High Performance or UHP winter tire?
How exactly do they differ compared to a regular winter tire?
Isn’t the goal of all winter tires to maximize traction on ice/snow above all else??? It just feels like a marketing term in my mind.
Would love to see a video compare the different performance classes of winter tires.
Like how does the Blizzak WS90 perform compared to the LS001.
For summer tires it makes sense because we have high performance cars and race tracks that see far higher temps and very much demand those qualities.
But that isn’t how people think of winter tires, or at least I don’t.
I've always thought the same, but then I bought my new daily car that has 300 BHP which I love to push hard at every chance I get. In my country we usually ride with winters tires at least 5 months of the year, so it only makes sense to find a high performance tire that will allow me to drive the way I want to.
Can I ask why did you do the dry braking test with winter tyres in 23.5C temperature? Wouldn't it be more relevant and precise if it was somewhere between -5 and +10C? You can easily do that just next to the winter test track on some smooth tarmac. Thanks for the answer and keep up the good work! Your test are the most reliable if some asks me ;)
Another lovely review. Thank you Jonathan !
Thanks for this test as well! Are you planning to test the new Hankook ION Tyres and see how they compare to the non-EV specific ones?
Great review as always. I’d be curious out to get more data with the ultra high performance winters on wet and dry performance in colder temperatures such as 0-2 degrees. I use my pilot alpins in the winter but soon as the temps warm up I go back to summers anyway so any data above 7 degrees isn’t as helpful.
Keep up the great work!
Wonder how the Bridgestone LM005 would compare
It's been replaced with the Blizzak 6 now.
@@tyrereviewsGood to know. The website needs this info too, where both models are linked to each other.
I seriously thank you for all your hard work ❤
You are great at what you do. I appreciate it and thank you
Bridgestone Blizzak 6, Michelin Alpin 7 are new models, sorry to hear that the Bridgestone could not be delivered on time, because they are always at the very top places, thank you for the detailed review.
I am using Yokohama ice-guard Tire. It's the best winter tire.
"Give me a BMW 320D" over the GTi ! My thought exaclty :) Awesome review as always!
Another fantastic testing. Thank you for a great job! Next time I would like to see Continental WinterContact 8 S along with already mentioned Blizzak 6. ❄
Any thoughts on testing tyres with mileage on them? I'm wondering if microtexturing skews new tyre testing results... as always really enjoy the channel, ty
When in doubt, go with Michelin. I have the CC2s for 2 yrs and they're amazing in all seasons.
You are the only one doing tire reviews worth watching... Everything else is just noise! haha
Will there be a nordic-winter-only video coming out this winter?
Please do these tests in more common vehicles and tire sizes!
While I understand that high performance cars bring the tires to their limits, it also means that most of us which don't have GTI's, M3's, Mustangs or Teslas are left wondering if the choice of tire we made is the best or not.
I mean, only a few high performance cars have such 19" wheels with such thin sidewalls. Also the tire profile changes with the width often, look at the Hankook Winter i*cept RS3. My car has the same tire in the 195/55/R16 dimension and the profile is completely different.
Is my tire comparable to the one you tested? Is it better or is it worse? By how much? If you'd test a 205/55 R16 or something close to that, I could maybe believe it's pretty much the same. I can only trust that the brand did a good job, nothing more.
Great video but i feel like dry and especially wet testing should be done in winter temperatures too for them to be representative. Testing them in warmer conditions in my opinion makes it confusing for many people who interpret it as them being crap compared to summer/all season tyres when they are simply outside of their comfort zone.
Ran a set of Nokian’s on a 3 series in the UK for several years and was very impressed with them. How would they fare these days?
Waaaaaahhhhhh - I was so hoping for the new Bridgestone Blizzak 6 Enliten
Excellent review as always. Thank you.
As a detailer I hope these cars go straight into the wash, otherwise imagine the hard water spots...but great review!
Thanks for making this
Great video!
I'd be curious to know what the wear is like on these tyres (Expected life), and how they would perform when worn.
Me too, there will be tests data on tyrereviews.com some of which will hopefully test wear.
@@tyrereviews Look forward to seeing them, thanks for your hard work!
Well done Jonathan great job done again. i wonder will there be any content for motorcycle tyres? You know they are getting more and more popular but there is no all round comparison for motorcycle tyres
Another superb review. Jonathan is setting The Benchmark in tire reviews. Only minus is that for some strange reason no blizzak?
Just got myself a set of michelins thanks to your video 🤓
Would be great to test northern europe tires like michelin north 4. I know that they are great. But would like to see them in video
Hi could you please do a winter tyre test for SUV for this year?
Thank you for the video 😊
What about Bridgestone?
Do you test them as well?
Amazing as always. Thanks
Pirelli are on the up. Challenging Continental and Michelin now.
And on those prices you save £150 on a set by choosing Pirelli over Michelin.
This conforts me in my choice of going to the all seasons Pirelli SF3 after watching your all seasons test ;)
Thanks !
Leave a review in the future!
Seeing all the comments about not including Michelin Alpin 7 and Bridgestone Blizzak 6. Aren’t those touring tyres? This test is about UHP winter tyres. Michelin normally has the name Pilot for the sporty tyres.
Why is Hankook WInter Icept Evo 3 and the Conti TS 870 in the test then? Aren't they touring tires as well?
@@grasho don’t know about the conti, but the iCept Evo 3 is a UHP tyre. The touring tyre from Hankook is the iCept RS3.
These reviews are incredibly helpful. Thank you for doing them!
Have you had a chance to test the Pirelli Scorpion Weatheractive? They're new and I've read they're as good as or even better than the CC2s.
SUV winter test please! (for something like 235/55/19)
I did one last year
I think Hankook evo3 is best price/perfomance tire in this top. Just get them on my 4x4 Kodiaq. In one week of usage in +/- 5-12C in primary dry conditions, all i can say, its good and quiet tire for normal regular driving. Waiting winter, will see how it handle.
Should I care about BMW homologation? It seems to greatly limit winter options. Or should I just purchase P0 in the correct size, regardless of homologation?
I always really appreciate your commitment to quality testing (blind testing, etc). But I'd like to encourage you to reconsider the way you graph your data. As I was taught years ago at university, graphs used to compare outcomes -- where the relative value is important, but being able to read the precise value from the graph is not -- should start at zero to give people the correct impression about the differences in the data.*
The graph you show for rolling resistance is a perfect example. You say the rolling resistance of these winter tires is "almost identical", but the narrow range of the graph (8 to 10 versus 0 to 10) gives the impression of a significantly higher rolling resistance for the Pirelli and Hankook.
If you can't bring yourself to go all the way to zero on the graphs because the bars will all look the same length (which I believe is exactly how they should look 😁), please consider at least showing a bit more in the zero direction so the small differences are exaggerated less.
* Temperature can be one of a few exceptions to the "start graphs at zero" rule. The zero point in Celsius and Fahrenheit are just arbitrary, and graphing from absolute zero is probably not useful as people have no intuitive concept of what absolute zero is. The same argument might apply to noise levels, but I think starting graphs at 0 dB is probably still a good idea.
One last thing: What happened to the values under the Straight Aquaplaning graph? 🤣
It's a constant balance between accuracy and allowing people on mobile to see differences. I'll change the programming for really close graphs like RR
Great test! I noticed that Michelin Alpin 7 wasn't included. Any idea when you'll be testing those? Looking forward to seeing how they perform compared to the others!
Thank you for another test full of usefull and detailed info. Too bad they didn’t get you Blizzak 6… Well, next year. Cheers 👏🏻
This amazing. Every single time when i watch this channel review and it comes to noise level and comfort - bad weather or something else. Information which are put on lable are totally out of space. 71dB on Michelin sounds diffrent than Goodyear and we are talking about outside noise! You are using Golf GTI in most of test. Put bloody sound matter and register loudness, next make remark it was done in this or that conditions (weather and what speed). Many tires are ok on 50km/h but when you are reaching 100km/h they starting to be loud like hell. Also in EU (almost everywhere) they are using this rough tarmac which creat lot of sound.
Many people (including me and my friends) looking for not the best tire but quiet one especially then manufactures remove any sound isolation material from cars to fullfill emission standards.
I've owned multiple sets of Michelin Pilot Alpin thru the years and have always been amazed at the grip levels in the dry. On my daily twisty on-ramps it would only be a few MPH under my summer tire variants when pushed. Very good in the snow... initially. My last set only got me thru 3 winters, which was appx 10k total miles (I don't drive a lot). That third winter I could barely get up a hill I had no trouble w/ the first 2 years (in the same car and more snow). I know winters don't last incredibly long but was sorely disappointed. My PA4's before that gave me 5 winters, but only ~15k miles. My only (big) gripe w/ the tires.
North America needs someone like you to test our tires
Tire Rack has been doing tire tests. Their videos are not as entertaining but they are using NA spec rubber.
Tire rack are great, and I now live in NA so expect more
Seems like for those areas where you have mild winters with only a few days of snow, running AllSeasons instead of winter tyres might be a sensible choise. And summer tyres for the rest of the year. Any thoughts on this?
Waiting for the wear tests, how much distance before the tread wears to 4mm for example and how they perform with much smaller tread.
Very useful. Thank you.
Thank you again. I am looking forward to your next video.
Summer tires remain the best in the summer. But in a mild climate, with wet and dry days with a week of snow, i am getting the impression that a yearly change over from summer to the best all weather tires is way better than to winter tires. I am looking for safety (breaking), comfort and rolling resistance (EV Suv). Can you give your view on that in the next video?
This is exactly what I was thinking of last 2 weeks 💙 Would you recommend to go for Michelin Cross Climate 2 and forget about changing tyres twice a year or to get Michelin Alpin 5 for winter in Berlin (not more than 2 weeks of snow a year) on 320d and Pilot Sport 5 for summer? I am not racing but occasionally do drive 200+ on autobahns in summer time.
how would you compare the Michelin XIce Snow vs the Alpine? What conditions are they both for? When would you want one over the other? thanks!
I got the Hankook tires last year. They are pretty good indeed. I got a great deal on them and all 4 tires cost me the same as 2 of the Michelin tires.
Do you have any info about Bridgestone Blizzak 6?
Please add also dry braking and dry handling tests on cooler temperatures, to see how tires change their behavior from cold to hot weather.
Great review as always - is there another on the way for high-performance (16 or 17s) tyres on the way? Have you managed to test Alpin 7 or Blizzak 6 in time for the upcoming winter season?
amazing review as always, how does WinterContact TS 870 P compare to Continental Viking Contact 8?
Is there going to be regular/normal tire size, winter tire test this year? For example Michelin have the new Alpin 7 out.
Wonderul test as always, it's a shame there is no wet handling test in cold temperatures
Almost got the budget tyre for my Ferrari but I guess I will try the Pirelli this winter.
Unrelated but we're dying for more info on the hoosier track attacks. They've been out and available for some time, figured by now you'd have a more in depth review and comparison with lap times, how it responds to heat etc.. we're all listening and waiting intently
Nice review like usual but sad you didn't had the new wintrack pro+ released this year ... Seems to be a real upgrade...
I sold my winterset last year. They were just catching dust in my garage. For a few years now we have had warm winters. 10°C and it only goes to 0°C during the night and only 2 or 3 times during the day. I'm back to runing all seasons year around.
Have had my Pilot Alpin 5's for a few years now in OE size on my Macan GTS....they are an outstanding tire. Really gives up so little compared to the summer Latitude Sport 3's (OE N0 tires) and don't have that squishy/noisy feeling like most of the Michelin XIce tires I've ran on other vehicles.
For the other car I have a blizzak lm005. Superb tire. Quiet, safe, fun. The new one is Giulia. Should I go for Italian tire then? :> Brighstones are a tad cheaper.
As always great testing. I'm wondering if it would be useful for people on a tight budget, if you done some tests based on a price (real world prices not RRP ). Maybe this could help those that just buy the cheapest tyre instead of paying a little bit more for a big increase in safety.
Could you try vikingcontact 7 vs 8? They say they made the 8 worse due to fit heavier electric cars and 7 is better.