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Jim Cornette on Steve "Dr. Death" Williams
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Doc was a natural BADASS. He lived here in Bossier city, Louisiana and I had the privilege of airbrushing some of his tights before he headed back to Japan to wrestle. Nicest guy ever. Took me to the food court and bought our lunch. He was awesome. Sad he’s gone. R.I.P. big man. Being a badass WASNT a myth.
Your absolutely right
Sometimes the Biggest Bad Asses are Often the Biggest Sweethearts ... Haku/Meng/Tonga is a Perfect Example
He had a house on Cypress Lake and I did some A/C work for him, awesome guy. Just as nice as could be. R.I.P. Dr. Death. You are not forgotten.
Dr. Death knew my grandparents. I’ll never forget meeting him when I was 10 years old. He was so incredibly nice. It was like meeting a superhero. He took time to talk to my 5 year old brother and I and made us feel “big” like him. And my tiny grandmother held her own when chatting with him. Also met Big Boss Man, The Million Dollar Man and The Steiner Brothers that day. Just a cool memory.
The Steiners were two of my heroes. That’s awesome.
The only fight that Dr Death legitimately lost was to cancer. God rest his soul
well that and Bart Gunn
To be accurate, that was a tie, the cancer died too.
Nicholas Brown Bart Gunn won because Doc was injured...so that's unfair.
SMAXZO normally that’s how fights are lost, when somebody gets hurt....
he was badly injured during that fight
Just because an NCAA level wrestler loses a boxing match when he's never really boxed takes nothing away from his overall toughness.
Just more bad booking from mcmahonville
John Gallagher he did not present himself as the best NCAA wrestler, it was as the toughest guy. Hard to keep that up when you get ktfo.
Thank you, these people act like doc was some punk that got beat by a little girl. Mike Tyson is a beast and got k.o'd but is still respected as a badass.
@@josephbuono5487 Was actually Russo who booked the Brawl For All.
By mcmahonville I just mean wwe in general
R.I.P to Doctor Death. One of the toughest
Cryst White More than just tough , he had shooting skill
Oh I agree
R.I.P? Lol, that's a good one.
I think old Jim Cornette might be going the same way as Dr Death pretty soon. :)
Wrestling in the 70's and 80's sounds like the wild west. Must have been equal parts great fun and terrifying.
It was the circus but violent
It was something to see.
And what made it more entertaining was that you could believe it was real.
Remember, nobody had seen UFC yet, and rasslin was presented in such a way that if you went in believing it was real, you didn’t see anything that would change your mind.
I pulled this episode at random from a RUclips list of Memphis Wrestling.
ruclips.net/video/wKxE5xhvDMg/видео.html
Better than today cm punk would got was beat for real
Being tough, and actually knowing how to fight are two different things, and people can’t seem to separate them.
Thank U
Hate to use this word but it's always marks that conflate being "tough" and knowing how to fight. I seen that brawl 4 all like we all did and injury or not Doc had no clue about fighting. But I'm sure he was super tough though I'm not denying that.
You morons......he was a DIVISION 1 Heavyweight Champ and ALL AMERICAN. A D1 all American LIGHTWEIGHT could RAGDOLL all of you......doesn't even have to be a champ just ranked. He was declawed with boxing gloves on his lunchbox sized mitts.
@@TRIIGGAVELLI lol I remember being a 14 year old kid like wtf man Bart Gunn just knocked this dude into a different universe.
Seems wrestling fans can't tell the difference.
Every single time I see that opening logo, my brain instantly goes "CORNETTE KOMBAT!"
MORTAL CORNETTE!
Kornette Kombat!
*Cornyin vs Sub Russo*
Dun, dun, dun...
I met Dr. Death back in late December 1980. I was wrestling in a college tournament at the old Orange Bowl Classic in Miami and Oklahoma was in town for the Orange Bowl football game. He came over to watch the finals and I was in the bleachers since I didnt make the finals. He happened to come over and sat next to me. He had no idea who I was but I knew who he was. We wound up talking for most of the finals and I had a blast meeting him. Super nice guy and I followed his pro wrestling career with a great memory tucked away.
I met "Dr. Death" way back in the day and had my picture taken with him.
Seemed like a pretty nice guy.
I grew up in the MidSouth area and the guy who always gets forgotten in tough guy debates is Jim Duggan . Duggan was good at avoiding bullshit bar fights but the few he got into were legendary . Duggan had hands like sledge hammers and few knew he was a legit 500 lbs bench presser .
Duggan wasn't the same after being busted.
I liked Doctor Death when he was Tag Team partners with Ted Dibiase, and Especially with Terry “Bam Bam” Gordy. They were tag team champions in WCW🤼♂️
I remember as a 10 year old meeting Terry Gordy at a uwf event. I'm 40 now, and I have to say that was the biggest most stout dude I ever met
He was one bad ass
I wish the Doc/Jimmy Garvin incident was taped because that would be great to see.
one of the most brutal matches i ever saw was Gordy and Williams against Brody and Hansen in Japan.
Where can I find this. I wanna watch this but unable to find this online @briancapps
Something I had heard is that Stone Cold Steve Austin's real last name was Williams. Changed it to Austin because the Steve Williams name was already used. Then ultimately legally changed his last name to Austin.
Doc was a bad man. I heard Ernie Ladd had to rein him in a little bit in a match.
True. Austin said as much years ago.
My wife (not a huge wrestling fan) didn't know who Hawk or Doc were. So when I told her the story and she looked up pictures of the two her response was, "Tell Jim I don't blame him. That looks like a natural disaster waiting to happen."
Dr. Death was an absolute monster, and he lost a boxing match to another real tough guy. That happens.
Even with throat cancer, that guy could wreck at least 95 percent of the world. Wrestlers are just flat badass.
Story never gets old:
*WHACK*
"Fuck!!"
"Fuck with me!!"
*WHACK*
"Fuck!!"
"Fuck with me!!"
*WHACK*
"FUCK!!"
FUCK WITH ME!!"
You know hearing about about Dr. Death and currently in the middle of reading Scott Norton’s book Strong Style and some of his wild and crazy times on the road it makes me wonder if anyone from modern day Wrestling in WWE could hang with these old school guys?
He press slam Hawk, bam bam, gordie, Barry w, stan Henson, and many more...
Stories like these from Jim are the best content. Loved the typical week in WCCW and MID SOUTH.
I saw a story one time where Doc and Rick Steiner saved this family's life. They were in an overturned car that was on fire. No one could get the door open. So Doc and Rick grab the door, pull it off of its hinges and pull the family to safety before the car explodes.
BrokenSaintRW man I would have liked to have seen that
Heard that story as well ..PWI to keep it kayfabe at the time never mentioned it was Rick Steiner
Crazy...I wish there was some way for us to find out if it really happened. I've never heard either man mention it. Since Kayfabe is dead, seems like Steiner would have said something about it.
Not surprised. Those guys look like real life superheroes may as well use your strength for good
Imagine having Doc and Herc on your side in a bar fight.
You'd lose.
@James Triplet And I correctly stated, "You'd lose." LOL!
Imagine have Shawn Michaels on your side in a bar figjt
@Bill Leonard lol, i know. I was just joking because of the bar fight he got in when it was WWF. It was against multiple guys I heard, but who knows.
Who would you want backing you up in a bar fight from the current roster? I'd pick Lashley since he was in MMA, or Riddle
I would feel 20 feet tall and probably get my ass kicked like immediately
I never got to see Doc much. I watched Mid-South but he didn't appear on TV very often. Then I started watching WWF and stayed with that until about 1988. The next time I saw Doc was at that ridiculous brawl for all crap and that's about it. What I've seen and heard about him since that time has been very good. I truly wish I could have seen more of his work. R.I.P Steve "Dr. Death" Williams!
I feel like all we ever talk about when it comes to doc is his bad assness, and it’s incredible but Dr Death was a good wrestler who had great badass matches in southern and Japanese territories
“And he was working a heel football player gimmick where he’d wear a helmet to the ring” why I still enjoy pro wrestling as what’s legally deemed “adulthood”
In a real shoot Dr. Death would win, but as far as ring meanness and character Stan Hansen was scary and convincing!!
Has anyone found footage of Dr. Death saying the eagle hasn't flown? Lol
He pressed Windham at Starrcade '87.
He also pressed near 300 pound Terry Gordy 7 times at GreatAmericanBash 89
1990 P.W.I (ProWrestling Illustrated) Worlds Strongest ProWrester..........R.I.P Champ!
Dr. Death didn't lose to cancer, he won his ticket to the biggest show of all time.
That Brawl for it all destroyed two careers .... Bart Gunn , though obviously a bad ass , was not seen as a bad ass and no one was pulling for hi to win ... But Doc was a legend at the twilight of his career . So when Doc fought one legged it was expected and when he lost to a " nobody " ( relatively speaking ) it was a huge let down to a crowd used to getting a gratifying ending . Doc was a guy the Stieners wouldn't fuck with , The Road Warriors wouldn't fuck with , The Von Erich brothers wouldn't fuck with .... regardless if he was the absolutely baddest of the bad he was in everyone's discussion on the matter .
He and Haku would have been incredible. I think Haku would win, but Doc would have given him a helluva fight.
I would have loved to see Dr. Death and Terry Gordy take on Doom
MAAAAANNNNN.
Doc and gordy vs Hansen and brody
@@paulshelly7193 Where can I find this. I wanna watch this but unable to find this online
@@vineetv it's hard to find, I actually found it once on RUclips. I don't think it's there anymore
Hercules and Dr. Death in a bar fight?? NO, I am not going against those two!!!!
If you do bring Steve Blackman & Dan Severn
Id pay to hear that audio of Eaton being the one to settle everyone down by being the MOST outspoken ppl
He needed to be in a tag team situation. I feel that would have made his career longer .
I lived in Houma La for a year working in the oilfield
People still believe wrestling is real there.
To this very day.
I remember that sequence when he pressed Barry Windham overhead? I think that was Starcade 1987 for The UWF Heavyweight Title when Dr. Death was The UWF Heavyweight Champion and Barry Windham was The UWF Western Heritage States Champion.
Dr. Death seemed to me like the type of guy that could clear out a bar just by walking in. That guy was one of the toughest and one of the strongest guys I've ever seen in wrestling and Dr. Death was part of one of my favorite tag teams in the 90's with Terry Gordy. I loved how they were not only technically sound they were also physical. They were downright brutal at times but make no mistake about it those guys could wrestle their asses off. I miss them both but especially Doc he was a great wrestler he should have been a bigger star in the states and if he didn't participate in that dumbass Brawl For All competition he would have been. Because Doc had all the tools athletically.
David Netterwald he didn't know how to box.
Dr. Death was one of my favorites since he won the UWF title from Bubba Rogers in 87. If it was not for his Japan obligations he would have been a bigger star in the US.
But would he of gotten the Vader type push as a singles?
Why would Doc want to be a bigger star in the US when he was likely making way better cash in Japan?
@@DIESEL0759
He was making more money by far and working a whole lot less. He had the best of both worlds.
He was a Triple Crown champ. And when he teamed with Hansen or Gordy, made giant money.
@@ColKurtz-xr9ie Exactly my point.
Now Jim. Barry paid him back with the nuts shot he gave Steve when Steve tried to leap frog him in a match off the turnbuckle. Anybody remember that? Ahoohoohoo!!!! No lie Jim Dr. Steve was a REAL baddass!
there is a story here on youtube in a shoot with a wrestler who said steve williams was once in a fight, the guy went into his car to run him over and steve williams literally stared down the car. the guy fled as steve williams didn't blink his eye or move an inch when he was speeding his car towards him.
Doc, Duggan and Herc The Three Beardy Brutes!
I'm surprised Vince Russo didn't try to give Doc a gynecologist gimmick
Nobody beats Haku
Just hearing how everyone knew it was serious when Bobby Eaton actually yelled at someone…
108 stitches doc took was in the Apter mags. Sew me up doc i got a match tonight.
He was a heck of an impressive in ring talent.
I miss this dude! Rest easy bad ass
1990 P.W.I (ProWrestling Illustrated) Worlds Strongest ProWrester..........R.I.P Champ!
It would have been cool having him and Brock and Kurt angle go at it.
Doc loved Jim Duggan. He would imitate Hacksaw regularly for fun even trying to convince fans he was Jim Duggan. Actually, if I remember correctly, when I first met Doc in 2002, one of the first things he asked was, “Do you know Jim Doooogan”? He loved Boogie Woogie Man Jimmy Valiant similarly. Such a wonderful man, so missed.
"F* with me" is the most incredible bit of mid fight smacktalk I can imagine.
I will never get tired of WHACK! FUCK!" "FUCK WITH ME!"
WHACK! "FUCK!" "FUCK WITH ME!!"
RIP Bamm Bamm and Dr Death
You’re right on the fight at the bar in Alexandria. It was at the old Lighthouse club.. and the Alexandria police broke night sticks over his back n he kept kicking butt
I watched dr. Death in AWA and NWA before it became WCW and he was a hell of a believable guy in the ring. And clearly had the strength to throw a vw bug 10ft.
Doc was in the AWA?
LEGEND VS LEGEND Dream Match: Steve "Dr. Death" Williams vs. Randy "Macho Man" Savage. Who would win???
Steve "Dr. Death" Williams should have held the NWA or AWA World Championship at least once.
blackstruggle77 Now that is a match I would have loved to see
Williams faced guys like Savage in Japan all the time,
@@kpllc4209 physically yeah. Mentally, no. Savage was insane lol
@Scott Grudziadz lol are you kidding? The dude was massive for his height.
Dr death
Savage was as over rated and under skilled as Hogan.
Those days all you really needed was charisma though
Best tagteam.. Dr. Death Steve Williams and Ted DiBiase.
Great team as both heels & faces against the freebirds, rock n roll express, fantastics, Hector & Chavo Guerrero, ETC. in Mid-South/UWF....but i preferred the team that Steve Williams had with Terry Gordy, Miracle Violence Connection. They had some great matches against teams like Toshiaki Kawada/Akira Taue, and Mitsuharu Misawa/Kenta Kobashi in All Japan; and against the Steiner Brothers in WCW.
Dr. Death and Terry Gordy were good, too.
@@johnkrolczyk2241 that Williams/Gordy team was one of the best teams of the 1990's. It was huge when they came into WCW from All Japan. Fans really wanted to see them wrestle the Steiner brothers. That match was so big it headlined a ppv. You never see a tag match headline a ppv, and they headlined a clash as well.
Legends of wrestling and brutal , brutal sex. Respect.
@@Dave-rf1zj weren't they called miracle violence connection? Which is, imo, the best tag team bame ever. (Side with holy demon army,and doom)
Jim almost died in Houma , Louisiana. I was born there.
I remember having a Dr. Death wrestling figure
Loved Doc. Didn't see him as much as I would have liked.
I remember the Windham press,I think it was when thre Mid Atlantic title was maybe unified into NWA? Maybe a Starcade , too long to rememberr the particulars,I remember Barry won tho
Dr Death was my football coach’s roommate in college.
He was a define badass and touch guy. Regardless of what Pritchard says, he was groomed to win the brawl for all. When he got beat by a guy who was not supposed to be a challenge, Bart Gunn, his career was ruined. Not fair to him but his persona was destroyed.
honestly I have no idea what they would've done with him in a Program with Austin especially since they wanted to do it when Austin was at his absolute hottest... but I definitely would've loved to see it. one of those great what if's that could've been. same as if Bret never got a concussion and came back early, there's no telling if the writing and moments would've been as white hot as they ended up being but we all know the actual matches would've been absolutely amazing and just the greatest quality ever.
It's a shame what happened in that Brawl For All, but many people need to think back to the unfortunate context that had been created from that ridiculous event... We can sit here and say he was still tough and he was still good, and he really was, not taking anything away from Steve Williams at all... but his career was in pieces after Brawl For All.
There was just no coming back from that, it was brutal. Going back to the context that had developed, being carried out on a stretcher, after a couple of punches, I know he wasn't a boxer but that really is not the point when we're discussing entertainment TV and how easily people can be desensitized to violence.
Just think, only a few days prior people watched one of the most breathtaking matches in wrestling history (Hell in a Cell 1998) with a man being thrown 20 feet onto a table, lifted out on a stretcher, only to drag himself back up and go back to fight again AND lose a tooth in another brutal bump.
Yeah Steve Williams was never coming back from that after people still had Hell in a Cell fresh in their memory. This is what I mean by context, we can look back at it now in a different light, with hindsight everything is 20/20, because context can be lost. But back then, nobody's career would be okay if they were carried out on a stretcher following a few punches in an amateur boxing match with that Hell in a Cell match just days prior and everything ECW was doing.
And really... damn... the guy was meant to be HHH, that's the push they were about to give him, his life would have taken an entirely different trajectory and he may have lived, who knows.
One of the strongest guys I've seen in the ring
i remember in ecw when tazz was running thru everyone was not afraid of anyone!Then tommy dreamer knows a secret that tazz fears dr death even though doc really didnt stay or do much in ecw it went to show how is rep was he was such a badass!!!!!
Mark alert. Tazz was built up to be a work monster. He was never a shoot fighter. For references search RVD and New Jack on Tazz.
@@BigEvan96 pick a hand 😂😂😂
I recall Bradshaw still having a tough guy reputation with the APA and as JBL in spite of getting knocked out. In fact, I think almost everyone forgot about the Brawl for All within a year.
He was a tough sob rip
JR was very responsible for Dr Death's reputation as well since he knew how to put him over. I was a UWF fan and Dr Death and Jim Duggan were awesome.
The Brawl For All was really not a fair representation of Doc as a fighter, the man was one of the best collegiate Heavyweights to not win the NCAA Championships and remember he was playing football at the same time as football was his main sport. He was still able to beat future Olympic Gold Medalists like Lou Banach, Jeff Blatnick and future fighters like Dan Severn in the NCAA's. Doc in the 80's before injuries/drug abuse was an absolute monster that could have taken most men in a street fight.
Those punches were terrible though. It looked like he never had a fight in his life. They all looked like that though. Even Mero who was supposedly a boxer....his punches didn't look great. Maybe it was the big awkward gloves.
FUCK WITH ME! 🤣
Also the Midnight Express teamed with Dr Death and the Road Warriors in War Games at the 1989 Great American Bash whose team won. when Jimmy Garvin submitted to the hangman.
Did well in the territories and Japan, sadly he's remembered by the wider public for a disastrous Attitude era stint in the WWF.
Bart Gun’s Left fist begs too differ about no one was tougher that Dr Death!
The best wrestler I never saw
Dr. Death Steve Williams AJPW Triple Crown Winner that’s where he shined
Does anyone else think Dr death and chef ramsay look like brothers?
One of the most disappointing moment as a wrestling fan is that I never got to see Dr Death work any angle. I’ve read about him in PWI magazines. When he came to WWE I excited. Boy was I so disappointed.
Dr death was pretty cool. Down to earth guy.
Dr. Death was as thick as he was wide. Natural born strength.
and a pharmacy in him
I was at the bar the night in Alexandria. Was at a club called the Lighthouse. It started with Hercules Hernandez and 2 of the bouncers. The other bouncers got involved and then Doc got involved.
and then what?
I was too ....live in pineville
Boxing takes skill that many true badasses don't have and sometimes it only takes one good shot.
Dr. Death was a beast! There is/was a clip from War Games posted where he was pressing Terry Gordy (who was legit over 6' and 300+ lbs) for multiple reps into the cage ceiling. Any way you slice it, that's not a typical display of strength by a human!
I saw that clip. He was pressing Gordy easily. That's not 300 pounds of steel-- that's 300 pounds of slippery, squirming, doughy white boy.
Dr. Death losing a toughman fight to a guy with toughman experience and with rules that favour a boxer does not ruin his reputation. Do you think prime Mike Tyson could have walked onto a wrestling mat and beat a high school heavyweight? No Tyson is getting pinned with ease but that doesn't take away how good of a boxer he was in his prime.
Fatal Fourway who wins? Dr. Death, Terry Gordy, Hacksaw Jim Dugan, Stan Hanson. I got Dr. DEATH
I got Stan Hanson!!
Stan Hansen beats them all into submission and then the Lariats fly.
I've raised hell on the brawl for all. destroying his national image. but I forgot something. his last run in wcw. .he was managed by Oklahoma. Okies are supposed to stick together. I hold him more responsible for that than the douchebag who did it.
Gordy was the first heel I liked
I wonder if Dr Death was still cool with JR at the time or if something happened between them. Or if he called JR, asked permission/if he cares cuz he probably got a big payday for that abomination
If Steve Williams could have made it in the NFL he would have. He was too small to be a lineman and didn't have enough quickness and agility to play any other position.
Beating up drunken goofs in bars who think wrestling is real and fighting professionally are two different things.
Bingo!
Prime Dr. Death Steve Williams against Prime Lesner?
Lesnar 7 days a week, Dr Mark was a goof.
there is a story out there of Doc and Rick Steiner coming up on a nasty truck wreck with fire and ammo going off.
Jesus…who didn’t Hawk almost get in a fight with? FFS!
I absolutely LOVE watching Dr. Death getting his ass whooped. Stood there and got his ass ROCKED
I hope Jim Cornett reads this. I was at that card in Boston. It seemed as though every match had incredible heat. But the midnight express, and Freebirds had the hottest heat. I didn’t find this out until a few years later, but I was at a swimming pool party back in the mid 90s and my cousin Had a friend who chatted with me. We talked about wrestling. Came to find out that he and a few of his friends were heckling the hell out of Michael Hayes to the point where Troy seemed as though it was going to come to some sort of a firm fight with Hayes.
Cool stories. I didn't know any of this
Bobby Eaton always saving the day whadda guy 😎✌✊
I remember in Baltimore seeing Dr death in war games
It's a good thing Bart Gunn wasn't in the bar that night. 👍
Jim lies. Ric Flair was in NWA, Animal was in NWA, the Steiners were in NWA, Kevin Sullivan was in NWA, etc etc etc and they all say Meng/Haku was the toughest man to ever live.
Japan liked the huge built Americans.