Great video highlighting a part of the minefield that is looking for a K98k. I recall an infamous example on Reddit where someone paid $3k for a MM only to be "educated" on it after the fact. Fortunately the guy was able to get his money back.
I paid $250 for mine 10 years ago. It's a Yugo captured Kar98K with the Yugo crest. Arguably the least desirable 98k and some people don't even consider them German mausers even though they definitely were made in Germany. 3k for just about any K98 is absurd and that guy must have been a idiot with deep pockets. I would say 1k is even a stretch, they used to be a dime a dozen like Mosins at one point. I'm satisfied with what I have, it still scratches the same itch.
I saw an add where Classic Firearms several years ago was selling Russian captured guns with the x marks and no matching for $900-$1200 dollars. Just crazy.
The Russian Capture always gets looked down upon. However, the RC is a piece of history. It is the history when Russia started defeating the Germans in WW2. I think the value of these RC’s will appreciate in the future even more.
Good quick review and right on target, no pun intended. As long as the buyer is aware of what they're buying and willing to pay a reasonable price for a nice looking shooter they're just fine.
Very nice, I had suspicions about a supposed "WWII Bring Back K98" that I recently got in an estate sale. This helped to put those fears to bed. Hoping to do a video on it soon. Thanks!
Yeah whenever I do see these, they’re still usually being passed off as rare collectibles, etc… I guess Mitchell’s is gone but their sales tactics live on.
I bought mine for $500 a few years ago. I knew what it was and I didn't mind since i wanted a good shooter not a collector The gun actually has a fantastic trigger, and is accurate and reliable. I'm happy.
I didn't know they were Russian capture. I did get a Mitchell years ago when they were advertising them . I thought what a nice rifle when I opened box.
Don't believe everything you read. They are not all Russian captured and even if they were, they are still Mausers. Kinda cool when you think of it, being captured from surrendering Nazi soldiers
If one was being sold for like 200 bucks yeah I'd jump on it that m63 short Mauser seems really practical I'd rather have something like that but one easy way to tell a Russian capture is receiver has an x on it
@@hobofactory that serbian m63 everytime i look at it is one bolt gun besides the ishapore 2a1 id be in market for in right price new bolt guns are better save for two ways no clip feed and no bayonet
If a piece of shit Mosin Nagant people are paying $500 for a rifle that is nothing but a crap rod, how are you expecting that someone will sell these Mauser rifles for $200?
I have one shoots great got it for 500 its ehhh price over a collector but im after a shooter wich i got. They may not be worth much but just like a Honda civic…gotta let them marinate soon they will be worth something
Whoops, I just bought one for 700 bucks, I knew I was getting into a modern refurb, at least with prices nowadays it seemed fair. I had no idea what mitchells was let alone that they had a rep. Well at least I can learn how to do some bluing now. Who knows maybe I could make my money back in a few years, people pay a lot of money for those silly little eagle stamps.
I'll always regret only buying one RCK98. I got mine from Wideners back around 2014 and they were $400. I remember people talking back then about how they wouldn't appreciate much in value.....yeah that was false.
I thought most of Mitchells mausers were Yugo M48 variants. I have come across a Mitchells mauser that was scrubbed of its Yugo crest and had german waffenampts and BYF 44 stamped on it. I typeface of the BYF and 44 seemed wrong, and it had the polished in the white bolt that didnt have any markings on it. The gun shop that was selling it wanted 1200 for it :P
They vaguely made it sound like M48s were WWII Mausers in their ads and sold a lot of them, but left the Yugo markings. They also took a lot of RC K98s and pimped them up, refinished the metal and wood, and faked markings that were scrubbed by the Russians. They even faked SS death head markings on some. I've never heard of them trying to redo a M48 to look like a K98 though, that's wild if they did. It would take a lot of work. The stocks can't interchange between a K98 and a M48, and it wouldn't be easy to make a Yugo look like a K98 stock. The bolts/receivers are shorter on the Yugo, bolt knobs are different and bolts are bent at a different angle. The rifles are a different overall length. Are you sure it wasn't one of the German K98s that went to Yugoslavia and was reworked with a Yugo crest, scrubbed of German markings, then Mitchell's modified that to have German markings again?
You’re quite right on that, but it’s important to not get ripped off. The several hundred dollar difference between a “collector grade” K98 and shooter-grade K98 could buy ya a lot of ammo.
I shoot everything I own but if I was filthy rich I'd definitely own a few things I wouldn't want to risk breaking parts on or accidentally denting/scratching by taking to the range.
they were packaged well, came with bunch of stuff and looked factory new very nice. Ordered one because my son wanted a K98 and a real one was $$$. When it came and I just thought it was just too processed and not a "legit" surplus rifle, so I sent it back. What a mistake. Dang thing doubled in price a few years later.
Good shooter, nice looking, and a K98, why wouldn't you buy one if the price is correct, they are not collector pieces if you're looking for original rifles
30-06 is too powerful for the shortened "tanker" Mauser. I've seen it being fired on RUclips and the kick is very strong. The .308 would have been more appropriate. Using the 7.62 x 39mm would have been even better. The "tanker" Mauser is not a true historical Mauser but a modern construct but still would be interesting to own as a curio.
I’d certainly shoot mine a lot more if it were in 7.62x39. It’s not so much the recoil that bothers me as the ammo prices for 30-06. I’d bet it would’ve been more commercially successful in x39 as well.
Well everyone has a opinion unfortunately. As far as no collector value everything had collector value. When I was a young man you could have bought up k 98s for less than 50 dollars by the truck load.
They are kind of like the Franklin Mint of Mausers for sure... but hey, you got a pretty nice rifle for the money, it was just misrepresented. Thinking back about those ads, there are pretty comical.
They are nice for a reenactment but to take a mismatched gun and grind and refinish and restamp matching numbers is completely dishonest. I have matching nice condition originals.F*** Mitchell's Mausers.
They are simply overpriced, not authentic, and dishonest. I have had dealings with them. Save your money. If anybody is curious about the word "dealings" I will fill you in, but space, time, and brevity prohibits that on this forum.
yeah, always make sure you're aware of what you're buying when collecting anything. you don't want to learn the hard way after overpaying $600 like a fool (me sadly)
I bought two, a 24/47 Yugo, [excellent], and a K-98K, c.1940, Oberstdorf. All correct, sniper version w. a Zeiss 2.4 telescope. All correct. BTW, some of the originals come in with shiny bolts, that is because the alloy steel used by by the Germans in Oberstdorf was un-blueible for awhile. You can research that.
Great video highlighting a part of the minefield that is looking for a K98k. I recall an infamous example on Reddit where someone paid $3k for a MM only to be "educated" on it after the fact. Fortunately the guy was able to get his money back.
Crazy! Even RTI isn’t charging nearly that much for their refurbed k98k’s.
I regretfully dropped $1400 on one yesterday, going back to ask for a refund tomorrow if I can...
I paid $250 for mine 10 years ago. It's a Yugo captured Kar98K with the Yugo crest. Arguably the least desirable 98k and some people don't even consider them German mausers even though they definitely were made in Germany. 3k for just about any K98 is absurd and that guy must have been a idiot with deep pockets. I would say 1k is even a stretch, they used to be a dime a dozen like Mosins at one point. I'm satisfied with what I have, it still scratches the same itch.
I saw an add where Classic Firearms several years ago was selling Russian captured guns with the x marks and no matching for $900-$1200 dollars. Just crazy.
The Russian Capture always gets looked down upon. However, the RC is a piece of history. It is the history when Russia started defeating the Germans in WW2. I think the value of these RC’s will appreciate in the future even more.
The value of a Mitchell's compared to a regular Russian capture will always be lower.
Good quick review and right on target, no pun intended. As long as the buyer is aware of what they're buying and willing to pay a reasonable price for a nice looking shooter they're just fine.
Very nice, I had suspicions about a supposed "WWII Bring Back K98" that I recently got in an estate sale. This helped to put those fears to bed. Hoping to do a video on it soon. Thanks!
Yeah whenever I do see these, they’re still usually being passed off as rare collectibles, etc… I guess Mitchell’s is gone but their sales tactics live on.
I bought mine for $500 a few years ago. I knew what it was and I didn't mind since i wanted a good shooter not a collector
The gun actually has a fantastic trigger, and is accurate and reliable.
I'm happy.
Exactly! A good rifle to have fun!
Where do you find a scope mount for the 63 it has a differant rear sight than any of the original k98 or m43
I didn't know they were Russian capture. I did get a Mitchell years ago when they were advertising them . I thought what a nice rifle when I opened box.
Don't believe everything you read. They are not all Russian captured and even if they were, they are still Mausers. Kinda cool when you think of it, being captured from surrendering Nazi soldiers
@@fdashes2139If only those rifles could talk.
If one was being sold for like 200 bucks yeah I'd jump on it that m63 short Mauser seems really practical I'd rather have something like that but one easy way to tell a Russian capture is receiver has an x on it
Good point, I probably should’ve mentioned the X; my example does have one.
@@hobofactory that serbian m63 everytime i look at it is one bolt gun besides the ishapore 2a1 id be in market for in right price new bolt guns are better save for two ways no clip feed and no bayonet
If a piece of shit Mosin Nagant people are paying $500 for a rifle that is nothing but a crap rod, how are you expecting that someone will sell these Mauser rifles for $200?
@@marckcarbonelloifveteran410 we can still dream
I have one shoots great got it for 500 its ehhh price over a collector but im after a shooter wich i got. They may not be worth much but just like a Honda civic…gotta let them marinate soon they will be worth something
Whoops, I just bought one for 700 bucks, I knew I was getting into a modern refurb, at least with prices nowadays it seemed fair. I had no idea what mitchells was let alone that they had a rep. Well at least I can learn how to do some bluing now. Who knows maybe I could make my money back in a few years, people pay a lot of money for those silly little eagle stamps.
I'll always regret only buying one RCK98. I got mine from Wideners back around 2014 and they were $400. I remember people talking back then about how they wouldn't appreciate much in value.....yeah that was false.
I thought most of Mitchells mausers were Yugo M48 variants. I have come across a Mitchells mauser that was scrubbed of its Yugo crest and had german waffenampts and BYF 44 stamped on it. I typeface of the BYF and 44 seemed wrong, and it had the polished in the white bolt that didnt have any markings on it. The gun shop that was selling it wanted 1200 for it :P
😱 I hate how they grind and restamp everything to match. Really dishonest.
You thought??? Well they aren't and many are not Yugo so wouldn't have a Yugo stamp
They vaguely made it sound like M48s were WWII Mausers in their ads and sold a lot of them, but left the Yugo markings. They also took a lot of RC K98s and pimped them up, refinished the metal and wood, and faked markings that were scrubbed by the Russians. They even faked SS death head markings on some.
I've never heard of them trying to redo a M48 to look like a K98 though, that's wild if they did. It would take a lot of work. The stocks can't interchange between a K98 and a M48, and it wouldn't be easy to make a Yugo look like a K98 stock. The bolts/receivers are shorter on the Yugo, bolt knobs are different and bolts are bent at a different angle. The rifles are a different overall length. Are you sure it wasn't one of the German K98s that went to Yugoslavia and was reworked with a Yugo crest, scrubbed of German markings, then Mitchell's modified that to have German markings again?
I bought one years ago for shooting CMP matches and it shoots great. It's a rock solid shooter, and why collect guns that you can't shoot?
You’re quite right on that, but it’s important to not get ripped off. The several hundred dollar difference between a “collector grade” K98 and shooter-grade K98 could buy ya a lot of ammo.
I shoot everything I own but if I was filthy rich I'd definitely own a few things I wouldn't want to risk breaking parts on or accidentally denting/scratching by taking to the range.
they were packaged well, came with bunch of stuff and looked factory new very nice. Ordered one because my son wanted a K98 and a real one was $$$. When it came and I just thought it was just too processed and not a "legit" surplus rifle, so I sent it back. What a mistake. Dang thing doubled in price a few years later.
Yeah just found one in store for $915, I want it so bad but it sounds a little steep to me
They are nice for reenacting,since they look like new ,but I like the original finish ,even if not matching.
Good shooter, nice looking, and a K98, why wouldn't you buy one if the price is correct, they are not collector pieces if you're looking for original rifles
just found one in store for $915. Not sure if I should pass on that or not
@@STALKR1 Its at the upper end of cost but if it has a good bore and nice stock go for it, its still a 98 and they are not cheap.
Nice for reenacting since they look new.
Nice for reenacting since they look new. Even the Russian captured guns are getting expensive. I have one ( from CAI) and it's nice.
Try and find ANY WWII rifle that was a battle rifle that is original,,ain't happening
30-06 is too powerful for the shortened "tanker" Mauser. I've seen it being fired on RUclips and the kick is very strong. The .308 would have been more appropriate. Using the 7.62 x 39mm would have been even better. The "tanker" Mauser is not a true historical Mauser but a modern construct but still would be interesting to own as a curio.
I’d certainly shoot mine a lot more if it were in 7.62x39. It’s not so much the recoil that bothers me as the ammo prices for 30-06. I’d bet it would’ve been more commercially successful in x39 as well.
Well everyone has a opinion unfortunately.
As far as no collector value everything had collector value.
When I was a young man you could have bought up k 98s for less than 50 dollars by the truck load.
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I wonder if a Mitchell's Mauser will be collectible wayyyyyy down the road for its own sake. A weird chapter in milsurp history
They are kind of like the Franklin Mint of Mausers for sure... but hey, you got a pretty nice rifle for the money, it was just misrepresented. Thinking back about those ads, there are pretty comical.
Didn't MM go out of business?
They sure did. But the guns are still pretty commonly seen on the secondary market today.
Good video...how dare you disparage Ed Sheeran though? Just kidding...not a fan either.
No doubt it will do damage to the like vs. dislike ratio :D
They don’t have collective value
Oh one day they will
The are a Mauser K98. Not in original condition but a K98 so it is collectible to some
Yes they do lmao not in 1990 maybe but in 2023 they sure as hell do
@@fdashes2139no one who collects K98s wants one.
They took junk parts guns and made something good out of them , isn't that what you all dream about doing ? They just did it for you but better
Gonna have to attribute this sentiment to it being April 1st :)
They are nice for a reenactment but to take a mismatched gun and grind and refinish and restamp matching numbers is completely dishonest. I have matching nice condition originals.F*** Mitchell's Mausers.
They are simply overpriced, not authentic, and dishonest. I have had dealings with them. Save your money. If anybody is curious about the word "dealings" I will fill you in, but space, time, and brevity prohibits that on this forum.
yeah, always make sure you're aware of what you're buying when collecting anything. you don't want to learn the hard way after overpaying $600 like a fool (me sadly)
I bought two, a 24/47 Yugo, [excellent], and a K-98K, c.1940, Oberstdorf. All correct, sniper version w. a Zeiss 2.4 telescope. All correct. BTW, some of the originals come in with shiny bolts, that is because the alloy steel used by by the Germans in Oberstdorf was un-blueible for awhile. You can research that.