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  • Опубликовано: 20 май 2013
  • Doors founder and keyboardist, Ray Manzarek recounts the night the Doors were fired as the Whisky house band. From TV Rock Doc "Temples of Rock" (2003)

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  • @c_h_r_i_s_t_c_o_r_e
    @c_h_r_i_s_t_c_o_r_e 8 лет назад +437

    ray is so good at telling story's

    • @TyloMusic18
      @TyloMusic18 4 года назад +4

      Example?

    • @ingvarhallstrom2306
      @ingvarhallstrom2306 3 года назад +3

      Let's call him a good story teller....

    • @SurfDog85
      @SurfDog85 3 года назад +1

      @Benjamin Vieira how so?

    • @SurfDog85
      @SurfDog85 3 года назад +2

      @Benjamin Vieira idk. I can recall some conversations from years ago of what was said and who said it. Which book? I'll check it out

    • @oldschoolrr6077
      @oldschoolrr6077 3 года назад +2

      One of the best stories I ever heard Ray tell is about when Jim and the Doors were on The Ed Sullivan Show in July 1967.

  • @billville111
    @billville111 9 лет назад +128

    I could listen to Ray tell stories for weeks. . .

  • @s.greasey7654
    @s.greasey7654 7 лет назад +278

    I'd pay a million dollars to go back to Whiskey that night!

  • @mytunes7886
    @mytunes7886 7 лет назад +191

    Missing you, Ray. No better keyboardist. Man you could play.

    • @rockyracoon3233
      @rockyracoon3233 6 лет назад +6

      GRIMM DAY Him and Jon Lord!

    • @GaryFox11000
      @GaryFox11000 4 года назад +8

      Ray was a true gentleman.
      Terrific keyboard player & what a fantastic story teller ! 👍

  • @donrutter6765
    @donrutter6765 6 лет назад +59

    Ray WAS the Doors, he was the backbone. RIP Ray.

  • @JuniorGutierrez
    @JuniorGutierrez 8 лет назад +145

    R.I.P Ray Manzarek and Jim Morrison

  • @aoxo99
    @aoxo99 10 лет назад +100

    Proud to say Ray was the first person to pass me a joint in 1968. Jim might have gotten hold of some more good acid when another guy and I helped him from being face down in the green grass of a yard in Houston on a warm summer night after the concert. He must have loved that brown leather jacket to wear it on a Texas summer night.

    • @GerGa769
      @GerGa769 7 лет назад +1

      aoxo99 cool man

    • @decimus3664
      @decimus3664 4 года назад +1

      Really ?

    • @DonovanWert
      @DonovanWert 3 года назад

      Awesome thanks brother

    • @neuskies
      @neuskies 2 года назад +1

      I need to hear more!

    • @AndrewGrey22
      @AndrewGrey22 2 года назад

      Wow. I thought reading an old library copy of Ulyssus (a book I figured Jim probably read while living there) at the Clearwater, Florida Public Library was a cool Morrison story.

  • @gmantv2011
    @gmantv2011  6 лет назад +37

    Ray was recorded in the Spring/Summer of 2003. My lasting pleasure to have worked/hung out with him.

  • @siy8230
    @siy8230 4 года назад +84

    I was there in my mind as Ray was explaining that

    • @MichaelDavis-iy7bz
      @MichaelDavis-iy7bz 2 года назад

      Yeah he’s incredible at telling stories

    • @siy8230
      @siy8230 2 года назад

      @@MichaelDavis-iy7bz most defo!! Gonna have another listen now in fact :-).
      Tell you another good story teller in terms of interesting factual stories and that's Mr Ballen here on RUclips. Also Neil Gaiman reading his Samdman books on audible is incredible

  • @andriealinsangao613
    @andriealinsangao613 6 лет назад +46

    Man, Ray's voice is soothing when he narrates!

  • @fjk77december13
    @fjk77december13 8 лет назад +146

    He can tell a good story. Wish I had been there.

  • @redplanetdrifter3352
    @redplanetdrifter3352 6 лет назад +26

    I will never get tired of hearing Ray talk.

  • @influenceofozzy
    @influenceofozzy 3 года назад +8

    Ray Manzarek forever. He was a magnificent storyteller

  • @manlymen552
    @manlymen552 8 лет назад +46

    Ray after the doors should have been a writer; great story teller

    • @DexterHaven
      @DexterHaven 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, he was the babysitter.

    • @darkwitness2718
      @darkwitness2718 6 месяцев назад +1

      Ray wrote the books Light My Fire about The Doors and a fictional novel called Poet in Exile about a character like Jim Morrison who faked his death and lived a peaceful life in the Seychelles.

  • @INDLIS
    @INDLIS 8 лет назад +29

    The End starts out about a romantic breakup but it was also full of anger, mystery and destruction.

  • @Aroncare
    @Aroncare 3 года назад +5

    Ray is a great story teller 😎

  • @LightningBoltForever
    @LightningBoltForever 3 года назад +5

    Ray was a masterful storyteller. I could listen to him talk about The Doors all day

  • @MichaelSmith-jw8qw
    @MichaelSmith-jw8qw 7 лет назад +20

    thank goodness Ray shared all this precious memories with us, thanks Ray--miss you greatly--and the Doors---incredible story of an awesome band

  • @jasonnewby
    @jasonnewby 3 года назад +4

    so legendary, stuff like this will never happen again in todays world!

    • @gonr.2426
      @gonr.2426 2 года назад

      'cause everybody is f++ed up in other ways!!

  • @BelaCurcio
    @BelaCurcio 6 лет назад +12

    still one of the best stories ever to be told

  • @kipknight1908
    @kipknight1908 9 лет назад +14

    Ray Manzarek,, very smart. one to listen to. R.I.P.

    • @raulv0417
      @raulv0417 9 лет назад +3

      +Kip Knight Indeed. If he was not entertaining people with his music, he was entertaining them with his stories. I could listen to them again and again. What a human being he was.

  • @Alexander-tj2dn
    @Alexander-tj2dn 3 года назад +3

    He is so good at telling stories.

  • @chrisridenhour
    @chrisridenhour 6 лет назад +16

    What an historic moment in music history to witness - amazing

    • @petersonlafollette3521
      @petersonlafollette3521 2 года назад

      Illustrated why their art grabbed attention- could not have had that impact without manufactured chaos, pushing to and beyond reality and societal norms...

    • @brianwalsh1401
      @brianwalsh1401 2 года назад +1

      Possibly histrionic as well. A histrionically historic moment in time.

  • @cw2256
    @cw2256 Год назад +1

    Always loved hearing him telling his stories! Miss him!

  • @jamesbond4633
    @jamesbond4633 5 лет назад +13

    Such a funny story. Imagine them creating some of that song right on the spot?. The imagination and creativity to do something like that is amazing. The excitement. They were an exciting band. You could feel it. Even the studio version which is all live you can feel it. The energy ....and the intelligence. No one like them really before or since. Very unique band.

  • @nikospaleologos3907
    @nikospaleologos3907 5 лет назад +3

    A wonderful person and a fantastic musician..Miss you Ray

  • @slums69
    @slums69 10 лет назад +70

    "oh.. oh yeah.. you know, you play the weekend, you're fired on Sunday" :D

    • @JOHNSTIER23
      @JOHNSTIER23 5 лет назад +3

      Saw ray play in Atlantic City a couple of weeks before he died he was great

    • @DexterHaven
      @DexterHaven 4 года назад +2

      Like a mother throwing the teenager out of the house next door to me...
      Mom: "I've had with you and your video games and online porn site bills on my credit card. Get out of the house and don't come back!"
      Kid: "It's Friday, mom. Remember you wanted me to clean out all the junk from the basement, wash and paint it all this weekend, and lay some carpet down?"
      Mom: "Oh yeah, but come Monday morning you are gone, buster!"

  • @josephsikorski8947
    @josephsikorski8947 6 лет назад +4

    One of the greatest rock stories ever.

  • @machinebuilder3535
    @machinebuilder3535 6 лет назад +1

    I can listen to Ray tell storys all day. Wish you were still here

  • @kappiiee
    @kappiiee 3 года назад +2

    Ray manzarek is such a great storyteller.

  • @gallitorock
    @gallitorock 8 лет назад +49

    you play the weekend and you fired on sunday !!! thats so damn funny ..... thx god for the doors :-)

    • @BR34NY
      @BR34NY 8 лет назад +7

      Don't thank god: thank Jim Morrison, Ray Manzarek, John Densmore and Robby Krieger

    • @innkev99
      @innkev99 7 лет назад +5

      Sorry, BR34NY, you should surely thank God (whoever your's may be if you have one), for The Doors, first and foremost, but you surely can thank The Doors as well. Just my opinion.

    • @CombatMedic1O
      @CombatMedic1O 6 лет назад +1

      Yeh God is the one too thank.

    • @notfirstyourlast
      @notfirstyourlast 3 года назад +1

      Funny they didnt use it in the film

  • @fearsomename2745
    @fearsomename2745 3 года назад +2

    Jim and Ray, may you both rest in peace, we all miss you both so much.

  • @susanw3066
    @susanw3066 4 года назад +2

    I always loved the way Ray could share a story. Would love to have been able to see The Doors at the Whiskey A Go Go!!

  • @ts9119
    @ts9119 6 лет назад +5

    Everytime l played that song & as soon as l heard Father yes son, l would jump up & turn the volume down. No way was l gonna have my parents ban The Doors from my bedroom !!

  • @sananto6896
    @sananto6896 5 лет назад +10

    Morrison majored in drama in college, possessed a power of words, plus had a high IQ. Which means that his so called antics, such as his back to the audience or laying flat on the floor playing dead, were done to arouse emotion. Morrison played drama like no other lead singer.

    • @sananto6896
      @sananto6896 4 года назад

      @Bella Bella..... Morrison gave all he had for the band. But he was done. He told the band that he was burnt out and wanted to quit. He even told them he was going to have a nervous breakdown. But the band was greedy. They saw the mighty dollar, so they persisted and talked Jim into continuing. Then when Jim started to get drunk and act up as you say, the freaking band members complain about it.

    • @kelvinkloud
      @kelvinkloud 4 года назад +2

      the truth is in the middle.... it is true morrison conceived a lot of the antics & understood & studied crowd dynamics. he also had a deep appreciation & knowledge bank for poetry & literature & in turn could improv and summon up those images on the spot. the fact that he had a lot of this knowledge baked into the hardwire going back to his teens, allowed him to roll out it even while under the influence. plus military types are known to be able to booze to large amounts, yet still party on & jim grew up as a teen in that envir... yet, he also could get out of control & push it past his own limits of self management. that, along w/ the stress of fame, his family displacement & his own demons could take him over the ledge into very destructive nights. miami the most famous and costly one.... the times facilitated & fueled a lot of it too. morrison needed someone outside of the band who was an elder he trusted who could better consul him. I'm sure ray in many ways did that the best he could, but when you are part of a unit & have your own pressures and profit motive it doesnt always work. if holzman, owner of the label, couldve done it all over again, I think he wouldve stepped in more into that role. the truth is though, jim was a hard case. he was strong willed and intelligent. those types can be the toughest to help.

    • @ingvarhallstrom2306
      @ingvarhallstrom2306 3 года назад +1

      @@kelvinkloud For all the flack Yoko Ono got about breaking up the Beatles Paul McCartney quietly said John Lennon was on a similar path and hadn't he met Yoko he was probably gonna end up dead...

    • @zen5257
      @zen5257 3 года назад

      @@kelvinkloud great comment

  • @daxdiggler6253
    @daxdiggler6253 8 лет назад +15

    That is so cool to know that Jim improved that at the Whisky A Go Go. I would love to be in that room at that time i can't believe i missed the 60s :(

    • @Hubcapdiamondstarhalo
      @Hubcapdiamondstarhalo 2 года назад

      yeah it's cool he threw in Oedipus rex/Greek mythology. Killed his father, Married his mother..which turns into a sexual relationship.

  • @mackydog99
    @mackydog99 8 месяцев назад

    I won tickets to see Jim Ladd interview The Doors at the House of Blues in West Hollywood back in 2003. Now, Ian Astbury (The Cult) sang and Stewart Copeland(The Police)was on drums. I look over at the bar and there sits Ray Manzarek drinking a Heineken. He's all alone so I made a b-line to the bar and struck up a conversation with him. What a moment in time! The one and only! I truly miss The Doors.

  • @straightgeorgestraight
    @straightgeorgestraight 8 лет назад +15

    My favorite band

  • @spitfireaace
    @spitfireaace Год назад

    Thanks Ray that is one of the best rock stories I ever heard.

  • @paulconnolly3189
    @paulconnolly3189 7 лет назад +6

    The End is a greatest song I remember seen Val Kilmer as Jim Morrison play that song at the whiskey a go go The Doors 1991.

  • @ralphprado9520
    @ralphprado9520 11 лет назад +4

    True legend ray manzarek was more than just a musician

  • @friki71
    @friki71 3 года назад +3

    This is why I luv the scene of this song in the movie, because Oliver Stone consulted Ray on how that moment went down, So what you see is as accurate as can be, and in my opinion that entire scene of the car driving fast in the dessert when this song is begining to play and you hear Pam yell out something like Jiimmm! don't go!, come dance with me!, All that entire scene of the end, is perhaps the best work Oliver Stone has directed and filmed, that low camera angle view of Jim following that Indian in the dessert and the sun turning into an eclipse, that hawk flying through it, and day kinda turning into night, then inside that cave, how the camera zooms into the Shamans eye and then your at the Whisky a go go, fucken awesome, and Val Kilmer, I'd say his best acting performance, Or did you like him more as Batman, lol! peace out. Imma go see that scene.

    • @vicvega3614
      @vicvega3614 Год назад

      YES!!!! And people talk bad about that movie, well the OTHER Doors members helped make it with their stories, its an unbelievable scene, the whole movie is great

  • @edbowie2041
    @edbowie2041 6 лет назад +8

    Yeah Robby coming in the clutch to get a few extra gigs. RIP Jim and Ray. Much love to John and Robby

  • @tonyzeno2715
    @tonyzeno2715 8 лет назад +23

    Great Story.. I wish I could of seen Morrison and the doors in my time

    • @brillopad6901
      @brillopad6901 8 лет назад +4

      Me too

    • @michaelserby7697
      @michaelserby7697 4 года назад +3

      I saw them 🖤 when I was 18 in 1968 🖤 🎶🎶

    • @julianbrowne7026
      @julianbrowne7026 3 года назад +1

      @@michaelserby7697 tell me more, how exactly is the difference between how people thought of them then and now, please.

  • @enterbalak
    @enterbalak 7 лет назад +7

    gives me goosebumps man! 'The killer awoke before dawn'!

  • @aoxo99
    @aoxo99 10 лет назад +23

    All nighter at a house in Houston after the concert. Wish I had played drums with them in the jam. Ray was the first person to hand me a joint at a radio station hallway before we went to the suburbs. Long story, summer 68.

  • @MrWoodMan23
    @MrWoodMan23 3 года назад +1

    Pure raw talent from Jim Morrison that we will never see again in this lifetime 🤘👍

  • @Scyllax
    @Scyllax 3 года назад +1

    I read this is “No One Here Gets Out Alive” back in 1980.

  • @gardensofthegods
    @gardensofthegods 5 лет назад +9

    It's kind of weird hearing this story told with a professional sports announcers broadcasting voice... I don't remember
    Ray Manzarek'svoice sounding quite like that years ago .
    RIP.. if it wasn't for him we wouldn't have all these stories about Jim Morrison I don't think.

    • @ingvarhallstrom2306
      @ingvarhallstrom2306 3 года назад +2

      He got better at telling stories. Especially the same stories. You can hear him embellishing them more and more as he got older....

  • @elnato87
    @elnato87 6 лет назад +1

    i can listen to this all day...

  • @paulconnolly3189
    @paulconnolly3189 7 лет назад +12

    That's a very good story of Ray talking about The Whisky A Go Go when his band got fired. The end is a very good song.

  • @wakajumba
    @wakajumba 5 лет назад +2

    I could listen to Ray all day. Guess I’ll just have to listen to Doors all day

  • @kermitserpent6298
    @kermitserpent6298 4 года назад +1

    who else watching this on mothersday 2020

  • @jimharrop8955
    @jimharrop8955 2 месяца назад +1

    It's not surprising Morrison performing The End live on stage in 1966 literally stopped the crowd. I'm sure Jim's performance and exploration of the dark side on stage was something nobody had ever heard or was ready for.

  • @tombstone4290
    @tombstone4290 7 лет назад +1

    Ray was an awesome performer and he's truly missed. No other keyboard bass player like Ray and his stories are told beautifully.

  • @darthrevan4570
    @darthrevan4570 6 лет назад +1

    where are you when we need you ray? hopefuly jamming up in heaven with the rest of the great ones...stories like these are priceless

  • @lukebardovski3379
    @lukebardovski3379 8 лет назад +2

    its 2016 jim thank you for the buzz through that interview ,,,,,,,,,,,,you where with me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  • @crypttonite
    @crypttonite Год назад

    Ray understood all the nuance in a moment & could talk about the music objectively, he was enjoying it too, he was surprised in it.

  • @Redo12able
    @Redo12able 8 лет назад +9

    Ray, before his passing, endorsed a novel - on the inside cover - only released in late 2015. It is based in the late 60s and likely one reason he liked it. "To Slay the Lonesome NIght," available on Amazon. Ray calls it "great work." Lots of good reviews. I heard Ray was an avid reader.

  • @massimiliano_mogetta_bartolini
    @massimiliano_mogetta_bartolini 3 года назад

    Just one word : perfection

  • @msaintpc
    @msaintpc 2 года назад +1

    I was there when the doors were hired, and I was there when they were fired. Good daze back then.

  • @vinnyrountree78
    @vinnyrountree78 2 года назад

    Been backstage at the whisky a couple times thank god to the band my dad manages, they’ve headlined there multiple times. I used this video to convince my new lady that this place is like a religious experience to me. Going back again in 2 weeks and it feels like the first time every time.

  • @troll4445
    @troll4445 3 года назад

    The world was a better place with Jim and Ray in it!

  • @Johns1082
    @Johns1082 8 лет назад +2

    great story, love that man!

  • @truenorth7949
    @truenorth7949 2 месяца назад

    Ray was such a gem!

  • @frankrock7652
    @frankrock7652 9 лет назад +5

    The doors is, was and will great Jim Morrison unico e incomparable

  • @mcnowski
    @mcnowski 3 года назад +1

    The mythical depth of this performance is incalculable, humans in the infinitude of space floating on the Earthen orb, staring up at the Gods in torment. Planet changing event.

  • @Davidblaine18
    @Davidblaine18 7 лет назад +3

    Greatest story teller!!!!!!

    • @keithjohnston6861
      @keithjohnston6861 3 года назад

      Apparently Jim could not tell a joke properly. Maybe it's because he talked to slow and stops in between a lot.

  • @patrickhall7884
    @patrickhall7884 4 года назад +8

    To be fair on Jim all he said was "mother, I want to....nyaagoyeh caam aawn yehh"

    • @jamescooper3571
      @jamescooper3571 3 года назад

      Make or Break, ???! The gibberish is what he said in the studio version. That night, live, he said fuck. It’s confirmed by many witnesses.

    • @gaoxiaen1
      @gaoxiaen1 3 года назад

      @@jamescooper3571 The real song was on the soundtrack of Apocalypse Now.

  • @lindamoore3729
    @lindamoore3729 3 года назад

    Funny, great thinking Robby! 😄

  • @windmedicine4159
    @windmedicine4159 3 года назад

    omg awesome! wrote a book on this subject and my friend sent me a link to this video. ty for posting -T.C. Justine Baker author of the prequel, Mother For Sigmund Freud

  • @summerscindy1946
    @summerscindy1946 5 лет назад +3

    I got too meet the Doors...after my first dance break...wow...they treated me like I was famous

    • @craigbugeja5181
      @craigbugeja5181 5 лет назад

      Please share your experience with the Doors for all Cindy. So many of us Door fans would love to read your stories! Before it's all gone! The End is near..❤

  • @sierrasky2491
    @sierrasky2491 Год назад

    The doors of Heaven opened and creativity poured forth. The door shut in the late 80s never to open again.

  • @virgilsolozzo3510
    @virgilsolozzo3510 4 года назад +1

    ray had a fantastic narration voice ...r.i.p.

  • @brennanb01
    @brennanb01 Год назад

    jesus. what a story. I read about it before, but the way Ray tells it gave me chills. Imagine being there.

  • @ryanraoufi5746
    @ryanraoufi5746 2 года назад +1

    “ ur fired on Sunday” lmfao 😂😂😂

  • @kelpszoidzlzelps2566
    @kelpszoidzlzelps2566 2 года назад +2

    I was there.

  • @michaelbauers8800
    @michaelbauers8800 6 лет назад +5

    Back in my pool playing and drinking days, I used to play The End a lot on jukeboxes. It's length means it was one of the better deals on the juke box. It was also the sort of song that seems to fit well with wallowing in one's own drunkenness. I like it sober though too :)

    • @UtopiaBlue68
      @UtopiaBlue68 5 лет назад +1

      Yup I totally understand I used to do the same thing here in Australia 😅😅

  • @bignickcydeco
    @bignickcydeco 3 года назад

    Sure wish I could have met Ray back in the day .. :-)

  • @KarlMiller-DjKarl
    @KarlMiller-DjKarl 7 лет назад +7

    I think Ray was the coolest keyboard player ever… ☮🔥

  • @CrissUSK
    @CrissUSK 7 лет назад +3

    i absolutely love THE DOORS

  • @mmttpp4477
    @mmttpp4477 4 года назад +1

    Let s here it for Ray CHICAGO.

  • @MrPOPICHILO
    @MrPOPICHILO 6 лет назад +2

    Awesome story..... 1~Luv

  • @phobias1000
    @phobias1000 7 лет назад +2

    Pretty F..... Wild story !!

  • @summerscindy1946
    @summerscindy1946 5 лет назад +4

    I'm here at the Whisky..
    Dancing...in the cage

    • @craigbugeja5181
      @craigbugeja5181 5 лет назад +1

      Hi Cindy, we're you at the Whiskey this night? Someone must be able to share this experience..

  • @martinseitune3787
    @martinseitune3787 6 лет назад +1

    Ray was reallt psychedelic with Robbie and Jim.. wow.. The Doors was a awesome band in the '60

  • @yannkam6444
    @yannkam6444 6 лет назад

    Excellent Ray, une autre histoire s'il te plait, j'aDoors ....

  • @BenJamin-rt7ui
    @BenJamin-rt7ui 7 лет назад +2

    superb raconteur.

  • @ratboyninja
    @ratboyninja 5 лет назад

    These stories are great

  • @queeralfdotexe
    @queeralfdotexe 5 лет назад

    It's so funny to hear Ray say "stoned on LSD". I love it

  • @bluewendigo672
    @bluewendigo672 6 лет назад +10

    THE DOORS was a religion.on the 60s even in 2018

  • @ramosmary26
    @ramosmary26 9 лет назад +3

    2:33 everyone's reaction at this point now lol glad he did it anyways

  • @billyshears1273
    @billyshears1273 5 лет назад

    RIP Ray 🎵🎶🎶🎶🎵🎵🎹🎹🎶🎶🎶🎵🎵🎵

  • @SteveEcksteinDouglasDrive
    @SteveEcksteinDouglasDrive 7 лет назад +2

    Doors founder and keyboardist, Ray Manzarek recounts the night the Doors were fired as the Whisky house band. From TV Rock Doc "Temples of Rock" (2003)"TRUTH" CLUB OWNER DID NOT "EJECT "DOORS" AFTER "MOTHER I WANT TO F..K YOU" BY MORRISON": DOORS PLAYED THEIR WEEKEND SET/THEN"THE END"

    • @davidpallin772
      @davidpallin772 3 года назад

      So what, you must be another one of those cultural watchdogs.

  • @DonovanWert
    @DonovanWert 3 года назад

    Awesome 😎

  • @marisaelenenadiejamusiccom3974
    @marisaelenenadiejamusiccom3974 5 лет назад

    I liked Ray. Cool guy and fun story.

  • @captainbeyond165
    @captainbeyond165 3 года назад +1

    Sounds like Chicago in the background in the starting of the video

  • @llistentorock
    @llistentorock 5 лет назад

    Ооо...! The end-это самая величайшая песня на планете, с глубоким смыслом. Я до сих пор вздрагиваю от крика Д. Моррисона и мощного взрыва музыкальных инструментов. Великие рок-музыканты!Таких больше не будет.

  • @emmaoswald8043
    @emmaoswald8043 2 года назад

    I feel like he’s my grandpa telling me an amazing story about the 60s and everyone is high off there shit

  • @ericnickel3280
    @ericnickel3280 6 лет назад +3

    What an incredibly cool guy. I assume he had grand kids. I wonder if they could appreciate who he was? Or....was he just grandpa Ray?