And he was right unfortunately, as the decades roll on he becomes even more right. It definitely wasn't ahead of public taste, it was just junk that got worse until we devolved into todays hellscape.
Same with architectural development. Everyone always wants to cram a apartment or useless store in every single space they can then complains about other people destroying nature. Overdeveloping yuppies smh.
I agree. If you want to understand a big part of why modern art is such a sham, read "The 12 Million Dollar Stuffed Shark" by Don Thompson. It's all about tax shelters, money laundering and public money for the last century. Most of our fine art schools, museums, dealers, and even many collectors are rotten to the core. If viewing this public junk is hard for you, imagine being a dedicated painter having to endure such "art".
God looking back 20 years later and these arts he hates are actually pretty tame and alright now compared to the sometimes literal poopshows we have today. Oh how far we've fallen.
Andy Rooney wasn't a large man but he stood tall for his beliefs. I miss him and his wit. I'm relieved that he didn't have to experience NYC as it is today. Although his commentary on the decay of a once great city would have been priceless.
I agree that the "Tilted Art" shit (the rusty slab of metal) should have been taken down. I mean for one thing there isn't much thought in to it. But never mind whether it's art or not. It sucks mainly because it obstructs views and paths. You gotta go around that long annoying piece of shit.
That seems to be a problem with your city planners, they shouldn’t have it be in the way of paths or obstructing views especially views that are the way they are because they planned kt like that
I hope his videos stay on you tube! I watch them because it's the only way to. He was funny. I never missed an ep of 60 Minutes when he was on it for years.
@chandru1103 I think the biggest disagreement though with that slab of metal was the location. I looked up where it was at - Federal Plaza in Downtown NYC. It would serve better in a very large park on an open field, or somewhere more suburban. Federal Plaza isn't that big and it's in the middle of an intersection of streets and walking paths. The plaza looks nice with the trees, fountain, and "openness" of it all. That metal completely obstructs views and makes the plaza look ugly.
In my opinion, one of the requirements for something to be called "art" is that not anyone can do it. People used to respect artists and musicians because they had talents not everyone possessed, so their work was admired. In our modern-day "American Dream" culture, people want to believe they can do anything. It's a nice thought, but letting anyone be an artist, regardless of talent, undermines what art is all about. It's sad.
The very advanced visual culture that was achieved in middle age Europe (and Asia) had to be destroyed. The group who took over pictorial art as well as music in the early to mid-20th century, redefined those two arts for very clear political purposes. As a result, Art in the 21st century has no meaning whatsoever. It’s WHO promotes it, WHO sells it, WHO markets it, WHO appoints the "experts" that tells us what Beauty is. I expose that in my "Art" video.
@robskim101 What he meant about Picasso is that Picasso demonstrated his ability in the classical arts with naturalistic paintings before he went all modern with cubism. Often a lot of modern 'artists' these days can't even draw a convincing figure but then try to market their style as though it has been meticulously developed without any proper background in classical art. It's like if I just started writing gibberish and tried to claim it as art even though I can't write well normally.
@@natalliaf6387 You can say that (in response to a 12 year old comment) but it's plainly untrue. No piece of art exists in a vacuum, separate from the artist's reputation. Maurizio Cattelan taped a banana to a wall and sold it for $120,000. If I did that, I would be laughed at. But anyways, that wasn't Rooney's point, his was something along the lines of "You have to know the rules before you can break them".
@@larrylobster9896 Your example illustrates the absurdity of your thinking. The value of "a work of art" is its beauty. Full stop. The price tag is based on its perceived retail value. Regarding one of Little Andy's points, let me put it like this.......how many Yoko songs on the John Lennon album "Double Fantasy" do you listen to? Probably the same as me. Although it is a "John Lennon" album, the songs in which Yoko is featured are garbage....I don't say "well, this song featuring Yoko is a great song because 'Strawberry Fields Forever' is a great song".
I agree with his viewpoint on most of this, but the Seattle one at the beginning, Waiting for the Interurban, is actually a fun one. It's at or near where the Interurban train ran in Seattle's early days, the human face on the dog is said to be someone's who pissed off the sculptor, and the figures regularly get decorated with clothing and other object to match the seasons or events.
I know people might want to say he was just a grumpy old man here, but he does have a point. Especially about the Mickey Mouse stuff out front not being on the same level as the art that takes place inside the building. All other major forms of art have to achieve a standard of excellence before the artist has a right to interpret his own vision into the art form he has mastered. And Picasso DID do this. Today’s modern artists confuse artistic expression, political statements, and “”shock art” with ACTUAL artistic ability and mastery... and it isn’t. And anyone who argues that point needs to be prepared to explain why my fifth grader’s artistic expression on her first watercolor shouldn’t receive a starting bid of $1 million at Sotheby’s.
What is really sad is that if it was a huge statue of Mickey Mouse or any cartoon character, it would be beautiful and on the same level as other stuff, but well drawn, well designed cartoons have artistic value. I've seen tiny metal figurines of the Disney gang and even big sculptures which were outright beautiful. That abstract for the sake being abstract stuff is insult to Picasso.
@@Thisscribe, thanks for the correction. I changed it. I must have copied the quote and author from a article I had read? Anyway 11 years is too long ago to remember.
Most modern art substitutes weird for quality, narrow isms for scope, and trendy for depth. It also refuses to change or even talk about progressive ideas in art like those that follow Too many treat art as a marketing scheme. Modern art has become a trendy clique and the art now is mostly over promoted footnotes to greater art that was done 100 years ago. But art is too important to be reduced to a trendy clique. Post-ism, is art for a new century, not a continuation of last century trends. 1 Mass Market Paintings like Prints. When any art form is mass marketed it enters a golden age. This has happened with books, records, and film. Let's add paintings. Most art is in storage in museum basements. Mass Marketing allows art to tour in copies and allows artists to make royalties on copies. Why do you think the world gets so excited about a new great book, record, or film; but no one cares about a new great painting? All are mass produced except the painting. 2. End a Century of Isms. Dump the genres and formulas and let all kinds of art be a part of the art world. 3. Shift Emphasis From Trendy to Quality. Shift emphasis from the latest trendy art, to quality art in any style. Just because art is weird does not mean it is great art. 4. Free the Art From Museums and Galleries. Get the art out of the ivory elitist museum and gallery towers and back into the world. Have city art centers open to all artists. Make art that is relevant and communicates with people. Start with the first generation of artists online. 5. Postism is Part of a Bigger Revolution. Postism is part of the bigger art and media revolution out of Dallas, that includes art, music, lit, film, media, and a lot more. 6. Postism online: Online artists are the new wave of art. We had all the isms of last century. Now we have a free for all, of all kinds of artists, that are not sanctioned by any museum or gallery, displaying their work. Out of that comes the next wave and revolution of artists. Last century the goal was to fit the ism. This century the goal is to do great art - no ism, no boundaries. Fractionalized art then, synchronized art now. Even calling something modern art is a type of ism that separates that art from the art of the past. The 20th century was a century of experimentation in art. Now in the 21st we can choose from all those styles and / or start one of our own. Then too if someone devises a way to charge and collect a penny per view on a webpage, that would allow any great artist to get money for their art and have a career without any middlemen. Duchamp broke ground 100 years ago - but now his clones are just shoveling dirt. Weird art is easy, you put a strip of raw bacon across an expensive violin, but it's not good art. Join the art revolution and pull the art world out of last century. Musea since 1992.
In complete agreement, except for the line about Picasso. Simply because one copies a Charles Bargue lithograph (torso from back) in no way entitles them to take any liberty they desire. He did NOT master realism; he had a decent level of academic student training which was extremely common at the time and even today.
I love when you find somebody else who loves Andy Rooney, and you say I think he was the last spoken word essay writer on TV and they get real quiet cuz they don't know what essays are
Lol you’ve got to be kidding me. I can’t express my contempt for people who think this tired, trite clown, who would have been backwards even in the 1910s, had anything of value to say.
I liked Picasso's sculpture, because it looks like a different thing from each angle. From the front it looks like a Baboon and from either side it looks like a woman. Plus he refused any payment for the statue.
Well, liking it is one thing and does not mean it is not art. Some people have difficulty in accepting new ways of creating things. At the end is all about personal taste. Remember that some people said the same when great masters first appeared such as Dali, Picasso, Van Gogh, Gustave Klimt, etc.
I'm an art student and I approve this message. I am a follower of the great tradition of art created by the likes of raphael , caravaggio, da vinci and michelangelo.
i am an artist myself and i do agree that lots of the thing that are put in the street arnt really art i would like to see something amazing that blows my mind not a twisted piece of metal
I admit that I don't understand modern art but I've seen art collectors go crazy for a 3 inch strand of rope nailed to a wall by an artist named Tuttle .....heard a card board cut out in the shape of a banana stuck to a wall painted yellow was going for 30,000. I think it's about people buying into insanity that creates its value . I've tried to see value in it but it just doesn't compute .
I know plenty about art, I went to Cooper Union and I taught for seven years. But most of the public detests this kind of art, and it's wrong to use their tax money to support it. Sounds like a good way to spread resentment rather than art appreciation.
I agree halfway. While a lot of this stuff would be more adorable as tiny figurines like the animals, the overly abstract stuff especially shouldn't be made into a huge statue and unless you're advertising a toy festival, that giant Mr. Potato Head is out of place. And the ballerina with a clown's head made me laugh out loud. It looks ridiculous. Is it art? To an extent yes, but it does not merit being put up as a monument. That looks like at April Fool's Day float. The indistinguishably abstract pieces namely the stuff that looked like worms with spikes look... awkward and out of place. Picasso's work was abstract too, but it was to an extent distinguishable and it was polished to an extent. And the guy has a point. Why didn't they put statues of ballerina's, actors or musician in front of Lincoln Centre? And what's wrong with filling spaces with good old fashioned flowers or trees? Those would not only contribute beauty but also some much needed nature in some areas. And honestly, good art being ahead of society's taste is a whole lot of rubbish. Good art ought to be able to be just as appreciated in the here and now as it would be years form now.
I'm so with you Andy, and I can't say that too often. The crap that's littered (and I mean littered) all over is just terrible. And the cost of such trash is crazy as well. Sculptures and actually skilled pieces are just not around anymore. Those examples are just terribly and ugly.
The problem with modern art that most people have is that it doesn't seem to be about them or relate to them in anyway. But it does,ordinary people don't own the streets the land the water the air the clothes on their backs or the art in our streets. These pieces are funded by business interests, they should remind people its time to stand up and say no and in that sense the pieces of work are now art in my mind.
He’s 1000% Right in this, and NOT just in Art, but in ALL Aspects of life. I’ve always said, until you EARN your stripes, and badges, you don’t Deserve the Right to be unique and special and weird and different. As he mentions about Picasso. If Tchaikovsky wrote a piece of music that was 1 note, I would buy it. He already earned his stripes; I can’t judge his non-traditional work. But kits don’t want to be judged or ranked; and now what Andy ranted about here 12 years ago, is FAR FAAAR rose now. He’d be called every name in the Book for this segment now. When He is Protecting “Greatness”.
I couldn't agree with you more... Some of the stuff that passes for art nowadays is crap. The same gos for music, films and wholesome food. We need the teach our children better.
I agreed with him up to the point where he pointlessly slammed Democrats. But then, this was around the corner of the last presidential election and no doubt he was doing his damnest to see his man won it.
Relate I went to the art museum in Des Moines and one of the things they had on display once that passed for art…. A single baked bean hanging on the wall… that’s it! Just a single baked bean… well who would have thought something I cook on the grill in the can could pass for art these days
Most of the modern art are "art for artists", that means that only an artist would appreciate it, like jazz and classical music is "music for musicians". In music, I've seen a lot of succesful pop artist that after a few hits they try to add more "art and complexity" to their music maybe just to not feel inferior among their fellow musicians comunity, but ends up as dissasters with their fans. Popular or simple art is still the right choice por public places.
@PierceMarratoo the reason it makes a lot of people angry is because when you think about an artist you expect them to have spent time on their work, when you look at most modern art and espeically abstract art they hardly look like a lot of effort has gone into it therefore when someone who's just finished their landscape painting of san francisco see's that their painting isn't selling but the guy that threw paint at the canvas just sold his for 1 mill, it seems wrong.
A line is a line is a line, unless you're willing to generalize the notion of a line to geodesics on arbitrary Riemannian manifolds, then a "line" can be a great circle, a parabola, and many other things.
Picasso "Gifted" Chicago with a small model of that monstrosity. The city spent around $450,000 to build a giant version of the thing decades ago. The argument was made that the guys who reproduced the thing were the actual artists, since the Picasso-made original was only about a foot high.
Man has a point here... some of that crap is just crap... No one does statues and sculptures and paints anymore... they just wanna put a wall of nothing in a most inconvenient space...
@PierceMarratoo Artists do study the theory of beauty. Musicians and painters study composition. It's true that beauty is in the eye of beholder, but there is some basis on what people consider beautiful. For example, in visual art, simplicity, balance and symmetry seems to be beautiful for most people.
As an artist I look for what is created. Sure we all have our opinions but it is a fact that sometimes criticism outweighs interpretation. I do agree though that throwing paint on a canvas and getting 1 million dollars for it is something of a hoax but then again maybe the artist bought the paint at retail and not wholesale and the canvas sat at Versaille for a few hundred years.
I'm not that into art so i don't really understand what it is .But I don't think a regular businessman walking along those artworks would take much of their time to understand it if it's not straightforward .still prefer simple sculptures and realistic paintings.
But in which direction is art moving now? When the Impressionist started it was them vs the art world... Now almost every museum shows modern, abstract art, and the art world is kind of totally bond to it, and its kind of the art world vs normal people who don't appreciate abstract art... And people who says "Modern art is the art of tomorrow", it's like "hey it's been here for a century now and everybody is doing it!" Lol this is an interesting discussion...
@normansmother1 - If you are human you can be an artist. Art is all about what it means to be human. Some artist, that is to say some humans, are just very tuned in to what that feels like in modern society. We live in complicated mickey mouse culture so we have complicated mickey mouse art.
@PierceMarratoo Also abstract art leads to people becoming too personal with art they can tell everyone else that they know better because they've paid a few k for a piece. Art is becoming a business now and its drifting away from craft which is really what scares me the most.
i agree...most of those sculptures are hideous...in downtown columbia south carolina there is a huge 40 foot metal fire hydrant a guy got paid a fortune by the city to create and the thing is an eye sore....
God I miss Andy Rooneys old man bitchings. He was a legend of our time.
I'll watch hours of his clips on here before virtually anything on current 'television' ! 👍👍
And he was right unfortunately, as the decades roll on he becomes even more right. It definitely wasn't ahead of public taste, it was just junk that got worse until we devolved into todays hellscape.
After he died, Donald trum;p; sort of picked up the torch but louder
I had curmudgeon as a vocabulary word in junior high and when I asked my Dad to use it in a sentence, he used Andy Rooney in his example!
"Pretentious Nonsense" sums it up!
came across this comment 13 years later
this man sounds cranky and senile but i completely agree with him!
Kaitlyn Tylar That was his “schtick” back in the day. But he’s absolutely right about modern “art”!
Cranky, yes. Senile, no.
Andy Rooney asked, "Does every open space have to be filled in? Is [this sculpture] better looking than nothing would be? I don't think so!"
I agree.
Same with architectural development. Everyone always wants to cram a apartment or useless store in every single space they can then complains about other people destroying nature. Overdeveloping yuppies smh.
1:33 "Is this really better looking than nothing would be? I don't think so." lol
I agree. If you want to understand a big part of why modern art is such a sham,
read "The 12 Million Dollar Stuffed Shark" by Don Thompson. It's all about tax shelters, money laundering and public money for the last century. Most of our fine art schools, museums, dealers, and even many collectors are rotten to the core. If viewing this public junk is hard for you, imagine being a dedicated painter
having to endure such "art".
Yep !
I'm a music student--a composer. I think this bridges to composing and musical art today as well.
God looking back 20 years later and these arts he hates are actually pretty tame and alright now compared to the sometimes literal poopshows we have today.
Oh how far we've fallen.
What a hero. This man.
He was a National Tresure.
I once saw Rooney waddling down the street when I lived in Manhattan. He was about 4'5. Thank you for reading.
Andy Rooney wasn't a large man but he stood tall for his beliefs. I miss him and his wit. I'm relieved that he didn't have to experience NYC as it is today. Although his commentary on the decay of a once great city would have been priceless.
Nailed it with “pretentious.” (although I do like the cows in various cities)
50 people like long pointless pieces of rusty sheet metal blocking their path.
"The people who were looking were better looking than what they were looking at". 😂😂😂😂😂
He said what I wanted to say my whole entirer life!
"I may not understand art but I understand english. And that's pretentious nonsense" I'm gagging
When I was a little kid in the early 90s I used to watch this man with my grandma. Oh I miss those days
I agree that the "Tilted Art" shit (the rusty slab of metal) should have been taken down. I mean for one thing there isn't much thought in to it. But never mind whether it's art or not. It sucks mainly because it obstructs views and paths. You gotta go around that long annoying piece of shit.
That seems to be a problem with your city planners, they shouldn’t have it be in the way of paths or obstructing views especially views that are the way they are because they planned kt like that
Andy Rooney was a gem.
I hope his videos stay on you tube! I watch them because it's the only way to. He was funny. I never missed an ep of 60 Minutes when he was on it for years.
As usual,Andy rooney is right on!
This guys segments would NEVER fly today, where there is so much you cannot question
@chandru1103 I think the biggest disagreement though with that slab of metal was the location. I looked up where it was at - Federal Plaza in Downtown NYC.
It would serve better in a very large park on an open field, or somewhere more suburban. Federal Plaza isn't that big and it's in the middle of an intersection of streets and walking paths. The plaza looks nice with the trees, fountain, and "openness" of it all. That metal completely obstructs views and makes the plaza look ugly.
In my opinion, one of the requirements for something to be called "art" is that not anyone can do it. People used to respect artists and musicians because they had talents not everyone possessed, so their work was admired. In our modern-day "American Dream" culture, people want to believe they can do anything. It's a nice thought, but letting anyone be an artist, regardless of talent, undermines what art is all about. It's sad.
True
"Is this really better looking than nothing would be?" 😆😆😆
The very advanced visual culture that was achieved in middle age Europe (and Asia) had to be destroyed. The group who took over pictorial art as well as music in the early to mid-20th century, redefined those two arts for very clear political purposes. As a result, Art in the 21st century has no meaning whatsoever. It’s WHO promotes it, WHO sells it, WHO markets it, WHO appoints the "experts" that tells us what Beauty is. I expose that in my "Art" video.
@robskim101 What he meant about Picasso is that Picasso demonstrated his ability in the classical arts with naturalistic paintings before he went all modern with cubism. Often a lot of modern 'artists' these days can't even draw a convincing figure but then try to market their style as though it has been meticulously developed without any proper background in classical art. It's like if I just started writing gibberish and tried to claim it as art even though I can't write well normally.
his point about Picasso was absurd. Every work is judged as an individual unit. We don't care WHO made it. We judge it on its merits.
@@natalliaf6387 You can say that (in response to a 12 year old comment) but it's plainly untrue. No piece of art exists in a vacuum, separate from the artist's reputation. Maurizio Cattelan taped a banana to a wall and sold it for $120,000. If I did that, I would be laughed at. But anyways, that wasn't Rooney's point, his was something along the lines of "You have to know the rules before you can break them".
@@larrylobster9896 Your example illustrates the absurdity of your thinking. The value of "a work of art" is its beauty. Full stop. The price tag is based on its perceived retail value.
Regarding one of Little Andy's points, let me put it like this.......how many Yoko songs on the John Lennon album "Double Fantasy" do you listen to? Probably the same as me. Although it is a "John Lennon" album, the songs in which Yoko is featured are garbage....I don't say "well, this song featuring Yoko is a great song because 'Strawberry Fields Forever' is a great song".
"A functional disorder of the mind". Brilliant!
I agree with his viewpoint on most of this, but the Seattle one at the beginning, Waiting for the Interurban, is actually a fun one.
It's at or near where the Interurban train ran in Seattle's early days, the human face on the dog is said to be someone's who pissed off the sculptor, and the figures regularly get decorated with clothing and other object to match the seasons or events.
Fun! (:
No. You are correct, Andy. We are lost somewhere in between life and death experiences. Thank you for your comments.
I know people might want to say he was just a grumpy old man here, but he does have a point. Especially about the Mickey Mouse stuff out front not being on the same level as the art that takes place inside the building. All other major forms of art have to achieve a standard of excellence before the artist has a right to interpret his own vision into the art form he has mastered. And Picasso DID do this. Today’s modern artists confuse artistic expression, political statements, and “”shock art” with ACTUAL artistic ability and mastery... and it isn’t. And anyone who argues that point needs to be prepared to explain why my fifth grader’s artistic expression on her first watercolor shouldn’t receive a starting bid of $1 million at Sotheby’s.
What is really sad is that if it was a huge statue of Mickey Mouse or any cartoon character, it would be beautiful and on the same level as other stuff, but well drawn, well designed cartoons have artistic value. I've seen tiny metal figurines of the Disney gang and even big sculptures which were outright beautiful. That abstract for the sake being abstract stuff is insult to Picasso.
"Often the abstract is done by the undisciplined, sold by the unprincipled, and shown to the utterly bewildered" Albert Camus
Clapping out loud for this.
Pretty much.
Lol. It's "Camus." And he wasn't even the person who said this. That was Al Capp, the cartoonist.
@@Thisscribe, thanks for the correction. I changed it. I must have copied the quote and author from a article I had read? Anyway 11 years is too long ago to remember.
Most modern art substitutes weird for quality, narrow isms for scope, and trendy for depth. It also refuses to change or even talk about progressive ideas in art like those that follow
Too many treat art as a marketing scheme. Modern art has become a trendy clique and the art now is mostly over promoted footnotes to greater art that was done 100 years ago. But art is too important to be reduced to a trendy clique.
Post-ism, is art for a new century, not a continuation of last century trends.
1 Mass Market Paintings like Prints. When any art form is mass marketed it enters a golden age. This has happened with books, records, and film. Let's add paintings. Most art is in storage in museum basements. Mass Marketing allows art to tour in copies and allows artists to make royalties on copies.
Why do you think the world gets so excited about a new great book, record, or film; but no one cares about a new great painting? All are mass produced except the painting.
2. End a Century of Isms. Dump the genres and formulas and let all kinds of art be a part of the art world.
3. Shift Emphasis From Trendy to Quality. Shift emphasis from the latest trendy art, to quality art in any style. Just because art is weird does not mean it is great art.
4. Free the Art From Museums and Galleries. Get the art out of the ivory elitist museum and gallery towers and back into the world. Have city art centers open to all artists. Make art that is relevant and communicates with people. Start with the first generation of artists online.
5. Postism is Part of a Bigger Revolution. Postism is part of the bigger art and media revolution out of Dallas, that includes art, music, lit, film, media, and a lot more.
6. Postism online: Online artists are the new wave of art. We had all the isms of last century. Now we have a free for all, of all kinds of artists, that are not sanctioned by any museum or gallery, displaying their work. Out of that comes the next wave and revolution of artists.
Last century the goal was to fit the ism. This century the goal is to do great art - no ism, no boundaries. Fractionalized art then, synchronized art now. Even calling something modern art is a type of ism that separates that art from the art of the past.
The 20th century was a century of experimentation in art. Now in the 21st we can choose from all those styles and / or start one of our own.
Then too if someone devises a way to charge and collect a penny per view on a webpage, that would allow any great artist to get money for their art and have a career without any middlemen.
Duchamp broke ground 100 years ago - but now his clones are just shoveling dirt. Weird art is easy, you put a strip of raw bacon across an expensive violin, but it's not good art.
Join the art revolution and pull the art world out of last century.
Musea since 1992.
I want Andy Rooney's job when I get to be his age. Hell, I wouldn't mind having his job now.
In complete agreement, except for the line about Picasso. Simply because one copies a Charles Bargue lithograph (torso from back) in no way entitles them to take any liberty they desire. He did NOT master realism; he had a decent level of academic student training which was extremely common at the time and even today.
I love when you find somebody else who loves Andy Rooney, and you say I think he was the last spoken word essay writer on TV and they get real quiet cuz they don't know what essays are
Ahhh heheh good stuff. True stuff. Sad stuff. Eek!
Lol you’ve got to be kidding me. I can’t express my contempt for people who think this tired, trite clown, who would have been backwards even in the 1910s, had anything of value to say.
"I may not understand art, but I do understand the English language, and that's pretentious nonsense." LOL
lol the guy who introduces him looks like he has that knowing smirk that everyone in the office is just like "fuckin rooney."
You tell ‘em, Andy!
I love it.
Listen, at least it's a cow. That's something. It's not just an empty pedestal or blank canvas.
I liked Picasso's sculpture, because it looks like a different thing from each angle. From the front it looks like a Baboon and from either side it looks like a woman. Plus he refused any payment for the statue.
Well, liking it is one thing and does not mean it is not art. Some people have difficulty in accepting new ways of creating things. At the end is all about personal taste. Remember that some people said the same when great masters first appeared such as Dali, Picasso, Van Gogh, Gustave Klimt, etc.
would love to hear Andy’s perspective on so many things today: social media, gender identity, politics, …
The answer to that' is his speech: if I were the devil.
Bravo Mr. Rooney! Well said!
I'm an art student and I approve this message. I am a follower of the great tradition of art created by the likes of raphael , caravaggio, da vinci and michelangelo.
i am an artist myself and i do agree that lots of the thing that are put in the street arnt really art i would like to see something amazing that blows my mind not a twisted piece of metal
Who came here after the 120,000$ Banana story?
Not me, but i still find it dumb to buy a banana for 120,000. I have lost the faith humanity 🙃
Abstract art that makes one wonder and question ends with Picasso. Most artists today are just wannabes with absolutely no creativity.
I admit that I don't understand modern art but I've seen art collectors go crazy for a 3 inch strand of rope nailed to a wall by an artist named Tuttle .....heard a card board cut out in the shape of a banana stuck to a wall painted yellow was going for 30,000. I think it's about people buying into insanity that creates its value . I've tried to see value in it but it just doesn't compute .
I know plenty about art, I went to Cooper Union and I taught for seven years. But most of the public detests this kind of art, and it's wrong to use their tax money to support it. Sounds like a good way to spread resentment rather than art appreciation.
I agree halfway. While a lot of this stuff would be more adorable as tiny figurines like the animals, the overly abstract stuff especially shouldn't be made into a huge statue and unless you're advertising a toy festival, that giant Mr. Potato Head is out of place. And the ballerina with a clown's head made me laugh out loud. It looks ridiculous. Is it art? To an extent yes, but it does not merit being put up as a monument. That looks like at April Fool's Day float. The indistinguishably abstract pieces namely the stuff that looked like worms with spikes look... awkward and out of place. Picasso's work was abstract too, but it was to an extent distinguishable and it was polished to an extent. And the guy has a point. Why didn't they put statues of ballerina's, actors or musician in front of Lincoln Centre? And what's wrong with filling spaces with good old fashioned flowers or trees? Those would not only contribute beauty but also some much needed nature in some areas. And honestly, good art being ahead of society's taste is a whole lot of rubbish. Good art ought to be able to be just as appreciated in the here and now as it would be years form now.
I grew up on this guy
I'm so with you Andy, and I can't say that too often. The crap that's littered (and I mean littered) all over is just terrible. And the cost of such trash is crazy as well. Sculptures and actually skilled pieces are just not around anymore. Those examples are just terribly and ugly.
Lol, I came here as a goof and ended up watching the whole video and agreeing with it
Modern art takes zero skill by and large and is completely subjective.
Classical art took genuine talent and had a standard to judge from (reality)
Loved him. Read his book, 'Andy Rooney's War'...
The problem with modern art that most people have is that it doesn't seem to be about them or relate to them in anyway. But it does,ordinary people don't own the streets the land the water the air the clothes on their backs or the art in our streets. These pieces are funded by business interests, they should remind people its time to stand up and say no and in that sense the pieces of work are now art in my mind.
Spittin' facts! 👌
He’s 1000% Right in this, and NOT just in Art, but in ALL Aspects of life. I’ve always said, until you EARN your stripes, and badges, you don’t Deserve the Right to be unique and special and weird and different. As he mentions about Picasso. If Tchaikovsky wrote a piece of music that was 1 note, I would buy it. He already earned his stripes; I can’t judge his non-traditional work. But kits don’t want to be judged or ranked; and now what Andy ranted about here 12 years ago, is FAR FAAAR rose now. He’d be called every name in the Book for this segment now. When He is Protecting “Greatness”.
I LOVE THIS GUY!!!! "I HATE THIS, I HATE THAT". Andy Rooney RULES!!!
Completely agree! :) Wonderful!
I couldn't agree with you more...
Some of the stuff that passes for art nowadays is crap.
The same gos for music, films and wholesome food.
We need the teach our children better.
I agreed with him up to the point where he pointlessly slammed Democrats. But then, this was around the corner of the last presidential election and no doubt he was doing his damnest to see his man won it.
You nailed it, sir, You sure did!
Relate
I went to the art museum in Des Moines and one of the things they had on display once that passed for art…. A single baked bean hanging on the wall… that’s it! Just a single baked bean… well who would have thought something I cook on the grill in the can could pass for art these days
"is this rusting hunk of metal really better than nothing at all? "I dont think so"
hahah..''.the people looking, are better looking than what they are looking at!'' classic! :D
I do have one correction... this style of art is not Modern art... it's considered Post-Modern. I fully support Any Rooney's viewpoint.
“Is this really better looking than NOTHING would be?”
Sir you are 100% right.
using this in my virtual art class! LOL Facts!
Most of the modern art are "art for artists", that means that only an artist would appreciate it, like jazz and classical music is "music for musicians".
In music, I've seen a lot of succesful pop artist that after a few hits they try to add more "art and complexity" to their music maybe just to not feel inferior among their fellow musicians comunity, but ends up as dissasters with their fans.
Popular or simple art is still the right choice por public places.
@PierceMarratoo the reason it makes a lot of people angry is because when you think about an artist you expect them to have spent time on their work, when you look at most modern art and espeically abstract art they hardly look like a lot of effort has gone into it therefore when someone who's just finished their landscape painting of san francisco see's that their painting isn't selling but the guy that threw paint at the canvas just sold his for 1 mill, it seems wrong.
Thanks Andy. 🇺🇸
Why do you put the flag in this comment? What does this have to do with America? 😂
Andy Rooney at his best👏😂😉😁
”Good art is always ahead of public taste” andy Rooney you day man
0:40 "Washington DC, it makes as much sense as the politicians there" funny
A line is a line is a line, unless you're willing to generalize the notion of a line to geodesics on arbitrary Riemannian manifolds, then a "line" can be a great circle, a parabola, and many other things.
Picasso "Gifted" Chicago with a small model of that monstrosity. The city spent around $450,000 to build a giant version of the thing decades ago. The argument was made that the guys who reproduced the thing were the actual artists, since the Picasso-made original was only about a foot high.
The original old man who yelled at clouds.
Pretty much. Curmudgeonly old fart.
Man has a point here... some of that crap is just crap... No one does statues and sculptures and paints anymore... they just wanna put a wall of nothing in a most inconvenient space...
Andy would have loved 2022.
@PierceMarratoo Artists do study the theory of beauty. Musicians and painters study composition. It's true that beauty is in the eye of beholder, but there is some basis on what people consider beautiful. For example, in visual art, simplicity, balance and symmetry seems to be beautiful for most people.
As an artist I look for what is created. Sure we all have our opinions but it is a fact that sometimes criticism outweighs interpretation. I do agree though that throwing paint on a canvas and getting 1 million dollars for it is something of a hoax but then again maybe the artist bought the paint at retail and not wholesale and the canvas sat at Versaille for a few hundred years.
@skamaster48 Why did you enjoy it? What is there that he ought to know about art?
This reminds me of Peter griffins “what really grinds my gears” segment
Im with ya Andy !
God bless Andy!
Andy Rooney, you crack me up, no matter what you talk about.
Oh man. If only you could see what we have today....
Modern Art is also an undefined term. So I was merely referring to everything that I define as modern art
I'm not that into art so i don't really understand what it is .But I don't think a regular businessman walking along those artworks would take much of their time to understand it if it's not straightforward .still prefer simple sculptures and realistic paintings.
But in which direction is art moving now? When the Impressionist started it was them vs the art world... Now almost every museum shows modern, abstract art, and the art world is kind of totally bond to it, and its kind of the art world vs normal people who don't appreciate abstract art... And people who says "Modern art is the art of tomorrow", it's like "hey it's been here for a century now and everybody is doing it!"
Lol this is an interesting discussion...
Me main man Andy Rooney total respect.
I store this video in a playlist and come back all the time to watch it. that is to always stay away from modern arts.
I certainly agree with Mr. Rooney. Modern art has interesting concepts but, without strong technical skill it's kind of worthless.
To those who defend this art; if this art is _not_ pretentious nonsense, then what art _is_ ?
@normansmother1 - If you are human you can be an artist. Art is all about what it means to be human. Some artist, that is to say some humans, are just very tuned in to what that feels like in modern society. We live in complicated mickey mouse culture so we have complicated mickey mouse art.
@PierceMarratoo Also abstract art leads to people becoming too personal with art they can tell everyone else that they know better because they've paid a few k for a piece. Art is becoming a business now and its drifting away from craft which is really what scares me the most.
@whosthisguythinkheis
I didn't say that he needed to explain his piece, I just said that if he could, that's good enough for me...
Wonderfully curmudgeonly.
i agree...most of those sculptures are hideous...in downtown columbia south carolina there is a huge 40 foot metal fire hydrant a guy got paid a fortune by the city to create and the thing is an eye sore....