@@ricarleite Well I graduated back in 2018 my best friend’s younger sister attends the same school and from what I’ve heard things have taken for the worse. There’s fights every day and students walk out of class just to name a few things.
Thank you for serving as a teacher. It is only when we get older that we truly appreciate our teachers and I wish that I could find each one of them and say thank you to all of them individually.
Eh. They come from broken homes and their current generation of teachers wants to talk about eating out their girlfriend and convincing the children that they’re anything but boys and girls. I can’t blame the children for being MONSTROUS. Well, in elementary school, that is. Then, they’re just bad people re-enacting trauma, but CHOOSING to be bad people.
My father taught 8th grade in the 50s. I once asked him what behavior got the most students sent to the principal's office. The answer was gum chewing.
As a seasoned junior high teacher, I revisit this film every year. The film is old, but the issues encountered in the classroom and the tactics applied are timeless and always relevant.
I agree. I'm a 22 year high school teacher, and this video does indeed reflect the truth: treat kids well and with resect and fairness, and generally they will treat you well as well.
Very true. There are certain techniques in this video that I employ and Coach other teachers to employ. And there was one in particular that stood out to me that I need to alter/correct. I thank God for that being highlighted, and for the space, skill, and opportunity to do it better. ... and I have to extend that same Grace to students and all of the young people in my life. It's only fair.
@Bayoudigger......Here we go again with someone speaking theoretically by opening their comment with: "AS a...(teacher, doctor, a member of Congress, etc"), he is speaking theoretically. It's the same as someone saying..."AS president of the United States....." A REAL person would state: "I AM a Junior high teacher; not: AS a Junior high school teacher..." So sad that 113 people were fooled by this deceiver.
I think it's disgusting teachers suck off the public dollar through force of labor unions and expect the children to sit still. You're teachers, didn't you learn how humans evolved from hunter gatherers to be forced to sit in a chair were not meant to sit in for x amount of time listening to some socialist bullshit? You people force these kids to do unnatural things then punish them for it. Well it's actually more so the boys you teachers don't like to deal with or be responsible for. The second they fidget its right to punishment.
@Donald Mickunas yeah, "progressive education" lol. Basically means no child left behind, no child gets ahead, oh and no discipline, instead we can try to work out our feelings at school while we disrupt our classmates from learning.....
My sister in-law retired from teaching Jr high school a few years ago. She started in 1970 teaching math and saw a huge change in the kids over the years. They pulled stuff and said stuff we wouldn't have dreamed of!She was actually my math teacher in1972, (that is how long she was there). What grade/subject do you teach and how long have you been doing it?
I think all schools are mainly liberal these days. I teach at a title I school 70% Hispanic, 20% African American and 10% white and Asian. All most of my students care about is their cell phones. They put minimum effort into everything. I have many kids who can’t read, write a simple paragraph or do math. Discipline is a joke because they know the worst they will get is in school suspension and when they are there, all they do is play on their phones. Need to bring back paddling.
@@THEbadlnb Is the Title 1 school a high school alternative? My granddaughter went to a "charter" high school for 2 years after the city's high school was eating her up with 4000 plus students. The class size for the charter she graduated from was about 12-15 students at the most. It made a huge difference. She turned everything around and is now in her first semester of college. This school was probably the exception to the rule unfortunately but we are so glad that she went there. I'm shocked you have students that cannot read or write. What a terrible situation. I am in Massachusetts.
Children must be polite and respectful to begin with. A teacher's skill can only go so far if he has a class of mutinous oxen. It's a parent's job to teach his/her child to behave.
idraote, I agree. I'm glad I didn't go into teaching because I'd want to teach only to students interested in learning and not babysitting a bunch of bratty children.
@@maunster3414 the key is to do the grade you're comfortable with. Someone who is good with teenagers has an easier time with class management. Same applies to all other ages.
Alain M, thanks, that is very good information, but after considering this, teaching still wouldn't have been for me. Ten or less I'd be fine, more than ten, I know I'd be overwhelmed.
Alain M, from college I had a Child and Youth Worker Diploma and worked in Human Services for 20 years. When I worked with children there was always the spectre of parents, laws, and issues of working with a minor. During the last ten years of my work in Human Services, I worked doing HomeCare with adults which I liked much better because I'm working with an adult making their own adult choices. I hope for you, Alain that you never encounter a situation that would be a legal mess or worse.
And that is precisely the reason they were respected and had a right to be harsh. Most of the teachers today have no character themselves and yet demant it from kids.
In the 1970, we (in France) were very well-behaved students because parents still had authority over their children. What ruined society's cohesiveness and children's obedience to authority (police, teachers, parents, leaders) is having taken away parental authority, initiated in the late 1970s and liberalism. Now, children becoming adults have less of a moral sense and discipline. These make children of the next generation adopt lower standards they pass on to their children, each generation gaining lower standards while in the background the governments [of the industrialised countries] advocate liberalism and reduce the importance of giving a good education to the masses. At the same time, governments have stripped teachers of their disciplinary powers and reduced the number of school wardens. At that time, the teachers were coming to class with an overall over their plain clothes. They delivered their courses by heart. We'd call them Sir X or Mrs Y while they would call us by our surnames. No familiarity. There can't be expected to have rules when the rules have been removed and declared obsolete. As a result, the people themselves don't want rules anymore.
@@hidargyYou have no idea what you are talking about. You are viewing ONE characteristic, having fought in a war, as all that is necessary for development of character. Can you see the inanity in your useless vitriol?
@@skiphoffenflaven8004 how do you even make that conclusion? Of course there are many ways to mature. For that particular generation war was most common. It's not a streach to say they were all shaped by it in one way or another. That doesn't mean it's the only way.
Treating students as adults can go a long way. I had a class in High School called "Argumentation and Persuasion". It was essentially a class on the techniques associated with preparing for and participating in a debate, how to gather information to support your position and how to best present it. The teacher of the class was well respected by almost all his students because he treated everyone as if they were adults and expected them to be responsible. It was interesting to compare how the same "trouble" students from other classes changed their behavior in his. He taught a number of mnemonic techniques, and right at the beginning of the term he had us use one to learn the name and something about every other student in the class. Right off the bat every student in class got to know everyone else - which in a big school isn't always the case, and it really makes a difference in how students react towards one another. I remember how he handled people who were late to class. In some other classes the teachers simply gave warnings or some after school detention for being late. But this teacher had any student who was late go up in front of the class where they would explain why they were late. They then turned around so they could not see as the rest of the class voted on whether their lateness was justified or whether they got detention. Just as the class was named, they would present an argument for their case and try to persuade the class! It's been decades, but I still remember appreciating how we were treated in that class. Bravo Mr. Coe!
There's a key word in your post: "detention." That teacher had a leg to stand on. He clearly had the support of the administration, as well as the parents. Nowadays, there is no detention. Administrators tear up pink slips right in front of the teachers and students. Any consequences for bad behavior is fought by the parents. Without a school culture of discipline, it's impossible to create a good class.
I agree. When students are about age 13 it's time for them to begin to be treated like adults and for them to get ready for adulthood. And we need to stop referring to college kids as kids.
My parents had a friend who taught at a private school, and got fired because he "smacked" a kid who was misbehaving. We grew up in Communism and we were punished for acting up, then we would get it at home! We had a reason to be respectful to the teachers.
I've just completed a forty year teaching career in an urban school setting. I taught at this school for twenty-two years and the other eighteen at another urban school. I had a great career. My secret was simple: If a teacher WANTS respect, he must extend the SAME respect to his students. It's a two way street. I taught English and History and I had the ability to make the two subjects "live" by gearing my instruction to a vantage point my students could relate to. I also made them laugh, because I always felt that to make the temperature of productivity RISE, I had to crack a few jokes in order to LOWER the tension. I loved my students (well, 90% of them, anyway!). and they knew it. If they trust their teacher, they'll respond positively. I believe that I changed the course of many lives, and I feel proud to have done so. I gave my life to something I really wanted to do. Yes, the world is different today, but kids still respond to respect and compassion on the part of their teacher. I was firm, but fair. I admonished, but never insulted or embarrassed any student. I always considered their feelings and my classes were always worthwhile. My "kids" used to tell me that I was "the bomb" (never learned what they meant by that), but I assume it meant something good. Anyway, at least I THINK it did. I can honestly say that I never had the problems a lot of other teachers had. Maybe I was just lucky, because I always remembered some of the lousy teachers I had as a kid ---- and was determined NOT to be like them.
Had a teacher like you 54 years ago. That is the one I remember favorably and did learn a lot and said useful knowledge has stayed with me all these years.
@@lennomenno The way I see it is testing during the year is done for the teacher's benefit, to see what the students have learned and if anyone needs extra tuition. If lots of kids fail, then thats calls teacher for self-reflection and to question if changing teaching method would help. Certainly, he should not go forward until most of the class has got it... Alas, usually the teacher is under pressure to press forward in order to "complete" the curriculum and fill in the books.
So true! If more than 2 of my students missed a certain question, I went back and first studied the language of the question. Were the directions written clearly? Did I thoroughly cover the material?
@@smnewstead4093 Yes. That teacher should probably be examining their teaching methods to see what they can do differently - for example, identifying what concepts are common for students to struggle with and spend more time on those in class, or connect the student with tutoring outside of class.
I'm a high school teacher and watched this expecting to roll my eyes at advice to be super strict and regimented to control students. I'm pleased to see actually good advice. The details have changed in the last 70 years or so, but the general principles are 100% still true today. Relevance and respect will get you WAY farther than an iron fist ever could.
Thank you for serving as a teacher. It is only when we get older that we truly appreciate our teachers and I wish that I could find each one of them and say thank you to all of them individually.
@@Ed_Okin Thanks so much for your kind words. I'm sure your teachers would love to hear from you. Knowing that we've been able to help our students in some small way is the best gift any good teacher can ever receive.
@@zeposgrave 😁 My students, most of whom consider me one of the strictest teachers they've ever had, would probably argue that point with you! I have extremely high expectations, I don't take any crap from anyone, and I believe in discipline when it's needed. I've just found that I have more success in terms of both student learning and student behavior when I treat them with respect and make sure they understand exactly why I expect certain things or why they're experiencing various consequences. In my experience, all you get from treating students harshly and disrespectfully is anger, resentment, rebellion, and, most importantly, resistance to learning.
@@JoannaCubana: I do not allow phones in my class. You leave them in your locker. If I catch you using one I take and keep it till after class and then return it to you.
@@georgschmidt494 That's a good idea!! But unless EVERY teacher in my school actually practiced this, there would be a mutiny!!!!😀 17 year old boys cry when I threaten to confiscate them...😭😭
Yep, guys made & threw "spit wads" or shot rubber bands. Sure hoped the teacher didn't catch you. There were the occasional fights between boys over misunderstanding, but never weapons.
@@nedkelly2035 : That's a sad assessment of our schools today. Probably true in some places. Fist fights were bad enough, but weapons were unthinkable in my school days. Too many young people now don't feel respect for self or others. Too little discipline instilled in homes.
You forgot to add that the kid that brings the weapon to school gets in school suspension as a punishment because his parents are both hitting the crack pipe at home.
I agree with the idea of punishing the entire class accomplishing nothing...when I was in the 6th grade just before Christmas break, a girl kept acting up in class and the teacher said if she didnt stop she'd cancel our class Christmas party that we were all looking forward to. The girl kept acting up and the teacher punished the whole class for the actions this one girl. While we could all hear the other classes enjoying their Christmas parties, we had to sit and do an assignment. All this did was make us resent the teacher and the naughty girl responsible. The only thing we learned from this was that its unfair to punish innocent people for the actions of others. 😒
I remember being annoyed that one of my friends was acting out in class. I didn't see the connection between her behavior and that her mom had died. Back in the 1960s, there was a "get over it" attitude toward such events.
I moved to and started teaching in Italy many years ago and noticed that tactic..punish the whole class..is often used. At first I was appalled. In theory I still think it is unfair. But I must say, it often works here, it causes the culprits to change their behavior. This may be though because in Italy there is much more camaraderie and sense of community in a class..partly because they are the same class all through each school level, ,( all five years of elementary school the same classmates, same for middle school and High school..there is no such thing as electives) so they know each other very well and feel responsible for each other..In America, at least as I remember it as a kid, we were much more independent, everyone pretty much out for themselves. So that tactic would probably not work. there.
I think we should recognize that we are a community. If one person wins, we all win and if they lose, we all lose. For example, many people become rich after growing up poor. How many of them go back home to help those that helped them to get them where they are now? I hear of people doing this from other cultures, but not too much in the U.S. It seems unfair when this tactic is used, but it’s the reality of our community and our society. We are responsible for one another. Everyone does their part however small or big. Without each other, we are nothing.
This is way more progressive than I thought it would be. If this was made in 1947 why did most of my teachers in the 80's not know about these techniques? The few who did, frankly, just seemed like better people and bucked the trend out of personal morality. I'm teaching a class next week and will try a few of these techniques.
I was wondering the same. Actually most people in leadership and "middle management" of so many religions, organizations, and teaching situations do and have gotten solid advice since this time. Ive heard the private trainings and had family in high positions of school systems. And yet i still wrote my first sentence. The message gets out there, but its just out there. Kind of like how almost everyone "knew" chain letters like "Facebook will be free for you if you share this." Was bogus, but the raw human impulse was there to share that as a post anyway. things are out there or not out there and its like they arent or are despite.
It's not reasonable to expect a teacher to be a master of diplomacy. The problem with this film is that it implies that a teacher never needs to use punishment. This sort of thinking, I think, led to the present situation where a teacher is often powerless to punish a student.
@@matthewbartsh9167Oh, you missed the point and just took the lesson YOU wanted to see and not the actual point. The point is similar to the point I make to people about the U.S. military NOW vs. around this time frame. Diplomacy is needed when, yes you may have the authority, but you are markedly outnumbered by students/other nuclear armed nations. The Teacher/United States military can’t clomp around throwing punishments left and right because, as you saw, that only breeds resentment, disorder, and contempt. The reason he can’t go throwing around punishments is because if he makes them more unruly, it disrupts the classroom learning and that’s his ultimate goal is to educate. Now when all diplomatic options have been exhausted, THEN you go nuclear and punish. Teacher wise, not military wise. The goal of a teacher is to educate.
Omg, yes! He accepted his part of the responsibility, as an adult, and then captivtied them. Thank you for saying this as opposed to the other comments.
@@EngPheniks incorrect. But I will definitely say it’s much harder to be a QUALITY teacher than a student, even a quality student. Being a teacher is easy, anyone who can shove pipe-cleaners through an egg carton to make a caterpillar can do it (actual example of homework). Being a QUALITY teacher? Much more difficult.
As a retired teacher, I've always felt a good teacher inspires and motivates, not just the subject at hand, but the principles of respect, kindness and dignity to others. This is a curriculum that can be taught by everyone, for everyone.
Those students went home to two parent households that had stable environments. They were taught at home to respect authority and by extension taking responsibility for their own behavior.
Sorry to say JR, most of these kids if not all are deceased. They're at least 15 in this film. The film was made in 1947. Today is 2023. That's 76 years ago. 76 + 15 =91 So at a minimum these kids are 91 years old today. Average life expectancy in the USA now is 74.
There is no discipline anymore. Today parents would be putting in complaints that a teacher raised their voice or singled their child out for bad behavior.
When I was in grade 9 our math teacher told us we were the best class she’d taught in more than twenty years and it was a pleasure for her to be working with us. That class was the most competitive and well-behaved class I’ve ever been in.
The main lesson, being ornery, angry, and shaming people doesn't solve the problem. Reacting angrily to every slight gets you no where. If you are friendly, and genuinely helpful, most people will try to do right by you. How you respond to the few that still "try stuff" will determine how the rest of the group responds to you.
As a teacher, it is so fascinating to see how much has changed, yet how do much has still stayed the same. You don’t see standards and anchor charts all over the walls like today’s classrooms, but you still need a teacher with a witty humor that gains student respect. All a matter of seeing what students NEED!!!
Here we go again with someone stating, "AS a teacher... " This is like someone stating, "AS a Congressman, AS a doctor or AS anything.....I would....". A REAL teacher would NOT speak theoretically, but state, "I AM a teacher" not "AS a teacher..."
@@tjmmcd1What kind of crack do you smoke? "As a" is by far the most common way to say "I am a" on the internet. If you don't like that, that's a you problem. The rest of us normal people will continue about our day without making up bullshit about whether someone's a teacher or not based on how they adhere to your particular beliefs on how something should be said.
We didn't have a school uniform, but were expected to come to school neat & clean and parents saw to that before we left home in the morning. Teachers dressed appropriately too.
@brad renfroe : It is a shame how some dress coming to school. Would not have gotten out of the house in the morning if I was properly dressed for school. No uniform required, but went neat & clean and in clothes appropriate. School not only taught academics, but prepared us for career appearance in HS.
In elementary schools, we teachers are expected to sit on the dirty floors with groups of kids. We use glue and paint for many projects. In the morning, we have to feed the kids their breakfast. By the end of the day, my clothes have pen and marker on them. Wearing a nice dress or suit would be ludicrous. There is no school that teaches like what you see in this video. No matter what grade.
"The whole class can stay in for 45 minutes after school." As the kind of kid who NEVER acted out, I lost respect for a teacher who did that. Why be good if you get punished anyway?
Its a psychological game. Collective punishment is supposed to result in the "good kids" (rule followers) to bully the "bad kids" (free thinkers) into following the rules. By the way, collective punishment is a war crime according to the Geneva Convention, but hey, when has the U.S. government ever given a damn about commiting crimes? Never.
The same thing happened to me when I was in the 8th grade. The students in our science class kept on talking during lecture, but I was quiet. Yet our teacher still made ALL of us, including me, to stay for one hour after school. Junior high sucked!!
👩💻As a 17-year veteran of teaching 1st grade, I remember sitting in classrooms such as this one 49 years ago. Classroom Management is a skill that needs to be honed and refined repeatedly. As soon as I got the students on board and moving in a direction of feeling successful at the level they are on, teaching becomes facilitating. And in 1st grade, there is quite a spectrum of levels of learning and behaviors. In fact, Classroom Management was my number one priority and favorite thing to do. I knew if I had that under control, everything else was easy.🙋♀️🥰🇺🇲🇬🇧
As a teacher I always say we can’t teach anyone unless we reach them first. Building rapport is key. It doesn’t matter the generation. Positive approaches to teaching was part of Dewey’s Education and Experience published in 1938. Too bad the public education system ignores this great advice.
What are you talking about? Do you have any idea what's going on in public education or private education today? Unproven approaches like Restorative Justice or PBIS are ineffective because they are simplistic or naive. Administrators treat teachers and students like infants. Then they don't support teachers when things go really bad.
@KCE Yet again we see someone opening a theoretical statement with: "AS a teacher.." This is no different than someone satating, "AS president of the United States...." A REAL teach would say: "I AM a teacher...", not "AS a teacher..."
I was born in the beginning of 90s and let me tell you I HAVE experienced this type of disciplinary school system and it helped so much to shape my academic path all the way to the university. We need this type of system in today´s society.
@@funshine817 I fear humanity too. Racism has gotten worse, with part of the contribution being the weaponization of black existence with anti-wokeness.
@Steve Kovaleski You missed the whole purpose of the film. It was about discipline not education or teaching levels. You also misinterpreted my comment. In comparison to today's class discipline they are angels. Today teachers must face the results of broken homes, drug influences and lib Communist/Socialist brainwashing. The title even specifies discipline.
@Steve Kovaleski You are hopeless, weird and out of your mind. You need to take a chill pill guy. This was simply a 50's tacky do it yourself teacher training film made in a garage somewhere. It is not a true representation of a classroom with the acting of high school Acting Class 101, for Pete sake. And they did act like angels in this made up scene compared to today's movies. You must think the 50's movie, Blackboard Jungle was real also. Did you just want to brag and rage against the machine or something? You need to calm down. Maybe get some help. No more comments with you guy. You are too scary!
High school in the early 1960’s was so different to today. The moment we heard our teacher coming we rushed to our seats and got our books out in readiness
I will never forget my junior high math and science teacher. He taught better than almost any teacher I've seen before or since, and genuinely loved it and kept the kids in stitches, making jokes about farting. Lol he was something else and I'll never forget him. He would be in his 70s now but I wish him health and all the best. ❤️
Fear worked well on me, I only ever did homework for the one teacher I was scared of. At one point we had 2 teacher trainees. They were well liked, played football with us and all - but there was no discipline in the class and I don't remember anyone improving academically. I'm not saying that they were bad teachers, only that being friendly and respected does not replace experience.. Today's teachers in western countries are much more under pressure because of the lax attitude to discipline by parents and lack of support and mixed messages they (the parents) get from society and especially Internet. Everyone is an expert. Children themselves are the same as they have always been..
@@oakstrong1 If I did not like a teacher it only made me want to resist them more, much like the kids in this video. The teachers I worked hard for were the ones that treated me with respect and could actually explain to me why I needed to learn their content, and not just tell me, "Because it is on the test." Parenting is a huge problem now a days though. I feel bad for the parents though. It is not always their fault. In today's economy most familes can only scrape by on one income. Parents cannot always be there to raise their kids because they are busy trying to feed them and keep a roof over their head. Surviving today is VERY different than it was back then.
I have completed my 30th year teaching. It takes practice to see things from the angle of the second scenario here. To be honest, this approach still works. Students want to feel respected and see that you care.
In a perfect world, this would be great. In my country, teachers have to protect temselves by recording 10 year old kids who are throwing them with things, swearing at them and threatening them with violence. Dicipline starts at home. It's the teachers job to teach, not to raise these kids.
But how do we expect students to learn discipline at home, when their parents are kept busy working. But if we talk about the old days, before women Labours you’d be right. Women staying at home raising children and men out working and providing their families.
@@zanazannazah8903 It's not about feminism and the 50s wife staying at home raising the kids. If that is the exception, then how I was raised disproves the rule. Both parents worked, raised 3 children (one of them handicapped) and raised my dad's youngest 3 brothers also. We were taught respect and discipline at home. The children of certain generations were raised differently I suppose. If I were not thought to be respectful and disciplined, I would not be the one taking care of my elderly father and handicapped brother now but instead would have left them gone and forgotten. I cringe at how some of the kids talk to their parents or anyone older than them today.
Discipline definitely does start at home. So many children are being brought up to believe they can do no wrong with parents constantly reinforcing this belief. The US school systems are failing in large part due to children not being taught real consequences for their behavior.
I honestly can’t imagine how easy teaching was back then. Now, my students use loud profanity, refuse to do their assignments, hit or choke out other students, openly cheat, stare at their phones or have full-on phone conversations and often walk around the room while I’m trying to teach. Some students leave the classroom without permission, others enter into my classroom without permission to talk to my students. I even had a male ninth grader finger a female ninth grader IN CLASS. It’s unreal😪
Why don't you just say the n word we know what you are implying. If you want "urban" schools to be better than funding needs to be allocated. When you had a system of segregation that prevented blacks from acquiring loans to buy homes. And a public school system funded by property taxes. The wealth mostly distributes to the wealthier neighborhood and the schools in those area prosper where the poorer which tends to be in Urban areas but due note Rural will also have this problem will receive less funding.
monsterhunter445 bullshit! I teach in an urban school! Title 1 urban schools get more funding from democrats and hand outs and free lunch more then other schools so don’t start with the race card! It comes from the home and the parents ! Stop playing victim and teach your children to behave and learn how to act instead of running down halls, screaming, etc I live it ! Then if the kids want to learn they’re considered acting “white” as Principal Joe Clark said lean on Me movie - can’t blame white people anymore . Joe Clark was the man! And yes white kids can be jerks too
We should have two types of schools: academic and trade. We force too many kids into academic classes when putting them on a trade track would serve them (and society) better. And no child who is disrupting the learning process for everyone else has a right to be in that classroom for long.
This is awesome. It encapsulates the difference between the good and bad teachers I've had. This is something everyone should watch. Prospective teachers, prospective bosses, prospective business owners, prospective mothers and fathers.... etc.
My mother went to the u of ga during this time She talked about GI's returning to college And about football players that were too dumb to pass anything And how she was ordered by a professor to do the school work of a football player so he could play ball on Saturday She also had to complete her work She refused to do the dumbos work and was threatened with explusion SHE DIDN'T BACK DOWN God rest her soul
I honestly didn't think this video would be so progressive! They absolutely nailed it, and these tactics still work today! I've had teachers that were like both of the examples, the first teacher failed me and I had to go to summer school and take the class again. My teacher was AMAZING, and for the 1st time ever, I got an A+!! That wad was 30 years ago and I still remember that awesome teacher!
@@Alskdoenfkemfnek : How does your school punish & are these young children or teens? Do parents seem involved in their child's learning and do you suspect parents punish at home too if their child misbehaves?
In my first career spanning 25 years in the motion picture industry, I learned this most valuable lesson: leave the comedy to the professionals. In my second career spanning 13 years teaching Television Production to high school students, I learned that comedy was indispensable. It takes years after taking Classroom Management courses to truly master it. Laughter helps.
I've been an elementary teacher for 20 years and I would love to have a class like this. The demoralization of society that Yuri Bezmenov talks about has certainly worked.
The overall demeanor of the class is almost humorous by todays standards to be sure; but the content as a whole is as relevant today as it was 76 years ago. I would use this video as a professional development tool today. The core concepts of preserving human dignity , self-esteem, real world examples, a willingness to be self-deprecating, not blaming (and disciplining) the group for the actions of an individual and a focus on providing individual assistance are as timely today as they were then. This is really a remarkable video and demonstrates that everything old is new again at some point.
the best question I remember my math teacher saying to the class is" Who likes money? everyone said I do. She then said, money is based on numbers and that is math and that is why we are here. Everyone learned how to subtract and add and do percentages. She equated percentages to shopping sales for the girls and buying a car for the boys. ( it was in the 1960's)
This works with primary school maths, and some might need secondary school maths if they are working in carpentry etc, but most people do not use 75% of the maths they are taught after leaving school and most of what we do, we do with a calculator.
I’m sorry they did that. My kids did get grounded for anything worse than a B though. If you pay attention and do your work, you can get an A, but everyone makes mistakes so I would allow a B. Anything below that and you just aren’t paying attention or not trying. My kids have the same rule with my grandkids and as a result, they all are honor roll students. Luckily for them, they get progress reports, so if there is an issue it can be addressed in plenty of time. My point in my previous post is that a lot of people act like their precious babies can do no wrong and always blame the teacher.
@@justaviewer904 : I don't think children should be tied up & belt beaten, but a smack on the bottom might motivate grades & behavior sometimes. My parents didn't punish over grades, but worked with me to help keep my grades good. The only school paddling I ever got was over neglecting some class assignments & those swats reverse my behavior.
For my parents it was the same except for math. They know I tried and even saw me studying so if I got a C they were lenient. There are bad teachers though. I had one math teacher fail our notes because the line wasn't visible enough on the graph even though everything else was correct and filled out. She'd come to class unprepared and expect us to be at the same level as her later periods. We were the Guinea pig class. I had one teacher tell us to google something because he didnt want to better explain it! It isnt always the students fault is my point. Some teachers suck.
@@zirrnorseman8068 : I can't and won't disagree with your assessment. There are teachers out there who have no business in a classroom. They reflect poorly on the majority of good teachers. Most of my teachers were very good and helpful in the classroom and my parents took the concept that learning begins in the home and practiced that helping me the best they could with homework and more so teaching me to be responsible and respectful. A few poor teachers made class difficult for me to learn. As I said, my parents never punished over grades, but would've had I been lazy or neglectful with my studies.
@@pamelapainter3195 If my parents punished me for bad grades, I’d always be in trouble. I had an undiagnosed learning disability in math, so I was always getting poor grades no matter how hard I tried. My brain switches numbers and signs and generally doesn’t process numbers like typical brains.
The classroom of today is much kinder and gentler, and the problem kids are far worse. The soft hand approach didn’t work. It only disarmed the disciplinarian.
It works when kids want to learn, they just want to be treated like human beings. I went to a private school in the 80s. My teachers were just as strict as Mr. Grimes if not worse. But there was a carrot. Once we accomplished the day's objectives, we could have recess until dismissal. It wasn't often, but some of us had two hours of recess. I'm sure that would never fly today, but was highly effective. One thing I notice is when the teacher's back is turned is when the discipline gets poor. Other than constant powerpoint, there should be a way to eliminate. Perhaps a TA that writes while the teacher explains. Kids would much rather chat than learn whatever the teacher is teaching, whether he's tough or nice. That's just reality.
6:25 "Oh, come now, Mr. Grimes!" Finally! An educational film that points out the teacher's flaws! In other films, it's usually the students who supposedly cause all the problems.
@@katiechisholm Completely false. Behavior by middle and high school students is a choice. When they act up they violate the civil rights of others in the classroom to get an education. We have a student at my school who acts up in every teacher's classroom but is especially disrespectful to female teachers. The other students are generally well behaved. Your attitude is why so many teachers leave the field. By the way, the student who is very capable has failed every class except PE- his choice. Meanwhile we have to deal with it until he is moved on to a continuation school. Dad is nowhere to be found and mom won't take the suggestions we provide.
Yes, it made perfect sense. Of course it won't work for all classrooms, but having a sense of humour and letting small things slide makes perfect sense. Disciplining or raising one's voice is (or can be seen as) a show of weakness and kids will feel as if they won if the teacher does it.
Must have been fun for the actor teacher and actor kids to make this film! This was probably a reward for kids who got good grades- make a film about problem students (and their problem teacher).
When the guy went up infornt and mock the teacher by pretending to be him and the rest laughed I immediately thought of my classmates. Some things never change.
I totally did that in 8th grade because we had a really funny and goofy teacher who was running late. He came in and saw me and this other guy mocking him and made us continue for a few minutes. He was cool, though - he thought we were spot on and hilarious. We didn’t get in trouble. He even framed and hung up a mocking caricature a former student had drawn of him depicting his ear hair and high-waisted pants. He loved it. He remains one of my favorite teachers!
Many teachers were very good, had many kids to like them, and had classes walk out dumb as a rock, since they were never disciplined. There were exceptions to what I just said, sure. But even those kids did not learn one third of what they could have learned, had there been some discipline in the classroom. But some people will never learn until we suffer the results of getting our own way for a few decades, and and we find that there simply is nothing else to point our fingers at, when we look for someone to blame.
I love it! "A friendly attitude, with a sprinkling of humor, goes a long way toward winning the regard and cooperation of the class, for respect is a more desirable molder of behavior than fear."
Mine was on the bottle (and smoking a cigar) at every break. Didn't make him less sadistic: he still liked to hit kids on knuckles with a stick or rap on their heads with his knuckles just for fun, or to punish for a mistake or poor handwriting. And he didn't even try to hide who his favourites were, showering them with favours and speaking with a syrupy voice. I guess Roald Dahl also had one of those teachers and was using him or her as a model for Mrs Trenchbul in the book 'Matilda'.
A lot of stupid comments below...If you watch the whole video, this actually shows how little people have changed over the years. I was a drill instructor and this was just as relevant in that setting. Respect the students while showing firmness....they all have egos and want to know why they got something wrong. Set expectation, give feedback, and respect them even while instilling discipline. These students from 1947 are no different than young people today....just without phones.
Oh, I remember my class doing a similar type of rebellion against the home economics teacher, Miss Swift, when she bullied another student. A teacher's in real trouble when the students spontaneously band together to commence unspoken coordinated rebellion.
Another thing: if I gave an important test and most of the kids failed, I'd say to them, "Well, guys, it looks like we all screwed up. You screwed up because you failed the test, but it was MY fault because I may have gone too fast. So let's go back to Square One, do the whole concept over and we'll take the test again. If you all pass, we'll have a pizza and coke party and I'll pop for the bill. They all passed the test. God, I wish those wonderful days with my wonderful kids were back. I never wanted to retire, but the System offered me a retirement package I couldn't refuse.
You know, I come from Russia, with a rather strict discipline attitude at schools and universities. For a few months, I have been teaching to Dutch students... It was hell... They eat and talk during the lecture, come late, leave when they feel, and sincerely believe that me teaching them more means them studying less..... ((((
jurisprudens oh yeah. I teach different countries, and I’ve found out that several students think it is the teacher who teaches them instead of them teaching themselves. Waiting for the teacher to spoon feed everything. I try each year to be more and more clear on my expectations.
Yes, the second approach was better, but today's students are very different ... much more difficult to work with, for the most part. In many middle and high schools there is now chaos in the corridors and classrooms. Japan's classrooms are orderly and have success, because the students are aware that their actions have consequences. Put kids in school uniforms such as those in Japan and Catholic parochial schools, make sure that very unruly students are suspended, have no more than twenty students in each class (if possible), make certain that every kid has enough to eat (some schools absurdly won't serve lunches to students who can't afford to pay for them), and you will have better learning environments.
Everyone who isn't in academica always have solutions, how can they stay within the student ratio parameter?? The amount of teachers is not in anyone's control. Also what are the consequences for students in Japan? The consequence probably comes from their parents and parental discipline is lacking in America. So, it's not as simple as you think.
I agree with most of your suggestions. However, all schools in the US offer free or reduced lunch. Perhaps you live outside of the US? I am a teacher and having small class sizes would surely help.
As a student at a private school who has uniforms and aims to have no more than twenty kids in each class, I can confirm the problem isn't the lack of spiffy jackets. Out of the entire Year 12 cohort of about 30-something, I consider myself to be one of only a very very very specific few who act somewhat maturely, meanwhile, everyone else in the back of the bus chanting "IF YOU LIKE LADIES FOOTBALL, CLAP YOUR HANDS!" and blasting the "Kyle's Mom's a Bitch" song from South Park at full volume. Trust me, it's the culture itself, not whether or not you dress everyone the same.
This is pretty good. The first part shows that dangerous slide into obedience through fear and corporal punishment. The second half shows a good teaching strategy. If no one is paying attention at that point, we'd need to rethink the classroom from scratch. My guess today is that social and other forms of media are going to play a big role in the classroom.
And while the American students spent the next hour converting between 1 mile, 5280 feet and 63,360 inches…. their European counterparts easily recognized that 1km has 1000 meters or 100,000 centimeters and took the next week off on a holiday.
Today, that might be the appropriate action to take. I went to school, but my parents did believe that they and our home was my PRIMARY place of learning. Parents were involved at school & followed-up on what school was teaching. I got help with homework when needed. It wasn't necessary, except one time in HS, because I was well behaved, but parents made it clear if I didn't behave, I would be punished at home too. Fortunate for my backside, they never found out about the paddling I got freshman year. Times have changed now it seems.
So, parents think cause they've had a year or two of learnin', they're just as qualified to educate their children as are teachers who have been trained and licensed by the state, to understand a wide range of growing and adolescent problems, and know what is and isn't expected at each grade level?
@@TnseWlms : You do make a valid point. I never intended to say home schooling was better option. Parents are a child's primary teacher. The best solution is parents work with school/teacher in the education of their child. Be involved with school...support teacher...demand schools and districts hire best teachers...work with the child at home in their class assignments...make it clear that child behaves at school & enforce consequences for misbehavior.
@@TnseWlms There are schools with teachers that don't understand the material they were hired to teach. I'd rather homeschool. Maybe I'd finally be putting my university degree to good use.
I am currently studying to be a teacher. I see many teachers are on here too. Times have changed, but I agree yelling or getting *visibly* annoyed does not help. Mr. Grimes remained composed and professional.
Well, its not as easy as the video makes it seem, but kids love it when you lose the plot. If you must get upset, it has to be done privately with someone who is interfering with the other's learning, otherwise you become a game to them.
To be honest, every single teacher has felt like acting in the same way as the first Mr. Grimes, and it absolutely does not work well. After 26 years of teaching, I can testify that the second scenario may not be the easiest - it takes a lot of personal discipline and patience as a human being to do what needs to be done, but that is what it takes. I’m impressed by this teaching film from the old days. I didn’t think it would hold up to today. 🙌
Yes you are so right the Bible book of proverbs c 10 v 22 says Train up a boy Girl In the way he should go even when he grows old it will not depart from him Eileen
As a teacher of English who has been teaching for almost 16 years , I would say that these pupils are angels compared to current generation !
My sophomore English teacher back in high school was strict he taught the old fashioned way.
What changed in the students since then?
@@ricarleite Well I graduated back in 2018 my best friend’s younger sister attends the same school and from what I’ve heard things have taken for the worse. There’s fights every day and students walk out of class just to name a few things.
Thank you for serving as a teacher. It is only when we get older that we truly appreciate our teachers and I wish that I could find each one of them and say thank you to all of them individually.
Eh. They come from broken homes and their current generation of teachers wants to talk about eating out their girlfriend and convincing the children that they’re anything but boys and girls.
I can’t blame the children for being MONSTROUS. Well, in elementary school, that is. Then, they’re just bad people re-enacting trauma, but CHOOSING to be bad people.
That's a pretty tame class by today's standards.
Where's Buffy when you need her?
It sure is!
Not very realistic; no-one got shot.
Class of 84 is a tame class compared to school s today
@@welshie2007 It's all due to being a God forsaken people. It's alright. You can say it.
WWG1WGA
The fact that this was seen as a class that _needed_ discipline shows how much things have changed since the 1940s.
No joke.
Half of them failing math. Not knowing how to study back in 1947? They're learning ratio, in high school? And failing!?
Times they are a-changing.
My father taught 8th grade in the 50s. I once asked him what behavior got the most students sent to the principal's office. The answer was gum chewing.
Lack of discipline is lack of discipline, it starts here and gets to where it is now.
Don't bring an eraser to a gunfight.
"Aw, dry up!" "Go fly a kite!" "Grimes is a pretty good egg."
What a wonderful time capsule of American vernacular!
As a seasoned junior high teacher, I revisit this film every year. The film is old, but the issues encountered in the classroom and the tactics applied are timeless and always relevant.
Junior high was the worst time in my life.
as so the word of God.
I agree. I'm a 22 year high school teacher, and this video does indeed reflect the truth: treat kids well and with resect and fairness, and generally they will treat you well as well.
Very true. There are certain techniques in this video that I employ and Coach other teachers to employ.
And there was one in particular that stood out to me that I need to alter/correct.
I thank God for that being highlighted, and for the space, skill, and opportunity to do it better.
... and I have to extend that same Grace to students and all of the young people in my life. It's only fair.
@Bayoudigger......Here we go again with someone speaking theoretically by opening their comment with: "AS a...(teacher, doctor, a member of Congress, etc"), he is speaking theoretically. It's the same as someone saying..."AS president of the United States....." A REAL person would state: "I AM a Junior high teacher; not: AS a Junior high school teacher..." So sad that 113 people were fooled by this deceiver.
I would die of happiness if my students behaved as well as these did in the first half of the video....
"Now I want you to open your books." *everyone opens their book instantly and quietly* Sigh... It's like a teacher's dream.
I think it's disgusting teachers suck off the public dollar through force of labor unions and expect the children to sit still. You're teachers, didn't you learn how humans evolved from hunter gatherers to be forced to sit in a chair were not meant to sit in for x amount of time listening to some socialist bullshit? You people force these kids to do unnatural things then punish them for it. Well it's actually more so the boys you teachers don't like to deal with or be responsible for. The second they fidget its right to punishment.
@Donald Mickunas yeah, "progressive education" lol. Basically means no child left behind, no child gets ahead, oh and no discipline, instead we can try to work out our feelings at school while we disrupt our classmates from learning.....
Or they are medicated into submission...
I think most kid in this video are karen & kevin now😂
Mr. Grimes would stroke out if he saw the normal classroom behavior at the school where I teach.
(Edited for the grammar Nazis)
THEbadlnb, Yup, you probably teach at a socialist liberal school.
@@auletjohnast03638 which would be just about any public skrcrewel in USA
My sister in-law retired from teaching Jr high school a few years ago. She started in 1970 teaching math and saw a huge change in the kids over the years. They pulled stuff and said stuff we wouldn't have dreamed of!She was actually my math teacher in1972, (that is how long she was there). What grade/subject do you teach and how long have you been doing it?
I think all schools are mainly liberal these days. I teach at a title I school 70% Hispanic, 20% African American and 10% white and Asian.
All most of my students care about is their cell phones. They put minimum effort into everything. I have many kids who can’t read, write a simple paragraph or do math. Discipline is a joke because they know the worst they will get is in school suspension and when they are there, all they do is play on their phones. Need to bring back paddling.
@@THEbadlnb Is the Title 1 school a high school alternative? My granddaughter went to a "charter" high school for 2 years after the city's high school was eating her up with 4000 plus students. The class size for the charter she graduated from was about 12-15 students at the most. It made a huge difference. She turned everything around and is now in her first semester of college. This school was probably the exception to the rule unfortunately but we are so glad that she went there. I'm shocked you have students that cannot read or write. What a terrible situation. I am in Massachusetts.
Children must be polite and respectful to begin with. A teacher's skill can only go so far if he has a class of mutinous oxen.
It's a parent's job to teach his/her child to behave.
idraote, I agree. I'm glad I didn't go into teaching because I'd want to teach only to students interested in learning and not babysitting a bunch of bratty children.
@@maunster3414 the key is to do the grade you're comfortable with. Someone who is good with teenagers has an easier time with class management. Same applies to all other ages.
Alain M, thanks, that is very good information, but after considering this, teaching still wouldn't have been for me. Ten or less I'd be fine, more than ten, I know I'd be overwhelmed.
@@maunster3414 I'm the same. I taught for a while and stayed with littler ones. Older I was nervous and kids can tell that. They take advantage of it.
Alain M, from college I had a Child and Youth Worker Diploma and worked in Human Services for 20 years. When I worked with children there was always the spectre of parents, laws, and issues of working with a minor. During the last ten years of my work in Human Services, I worked doing HomeCare with adults which I liked much better because I'm working with an adult making their own adult choices.
I hope for you, Alain that you never encounter a situation that would be a legal mess or worse.
3 years earlier Mr. Grimes was storming the beaches of Normandy
And that is precisely the reason they were respected and had a right to be harsh. Most of the teachers today have no character themselves and yet demant it from kids.
In the 1970, we (in France) were very well-behaved students because parents still had authority over their children.
What ruined society's cohesiveness and children's obedience to authority (police, teachers, parents, leaders) is having taken away parental authority, initiated in the late 1970s and liberalism.
Now, children becoming adults have less of a moral sense and discipline. These make children of the next generation adopt lower standards they pass on to their children, each generation gaining lower standards while in the background the governments [of the industrialised countries] advocate liberalism and reduce the importance of giving a good education to the masses.
At the same time, governments have stripped teachers of their disciplinary powers and reduced the number of school wardens.
At that time, the teachers were coming to class with an overall over their plain clothes. They delivered their courses by heart. We'd call them Sir X or Mrs Y while they would call us by our surnames. No familiarity.
There can't be expected to have rules when the rules have been removed and declared obsolete.
As a result, the people themselves don't want rules anymore.
@@michellemobakeng5938si in short, cultural Marxism has ruined society.
@@hidargyYou have no idea what you are talking about. You are viewing ONE characteristic, having fought in a war, as all that is necessary for development of character. Can you see the inanity in your useless vitriol?
@@skiphoffenflaven8004 how do you even make that conclusion? Of course there are many ways to mature. For that particular generation war was most common. It's not a streach to say they were all shaped by it in one way or another. That doesn't mean it's the only way.
Treating students as adults can go a long way. I had a class in High School called "Argumentation and Persuasion". It was essentially a class on the techniques associated with preparing for and participating in a debate, how to gather information to support your position and how to best present it. The teacher of the class was well respected by almost all his students because he treated everyone as if they were adults and expected them to be responsible. It was interesting to compare how the same "trouble" students from other classes changed their behavior in his.
He taught a number of mnemonic techniques, and right at the beginning of the term he had us use one to learn the name and something about every other student in the class. Right off the bat every student in class got to know everyone else - which in a big school isn't always the case, and it really makes a difference in how students react towards one another.
I remember how he handled people who were late to class. In some other classes the teachers simply gave warnings or some after school detention for being late. But this teacher had any student who was late go up in front of the class where they would explain why they were late. They then turned around so they could not see as the rest of the class voted on whether their lateness was justified or whether they got detention. Just as the class was named, they would present an argument for their case and try to persuade the class!
It's been decades, but I still remember appreciating how we were treated in that class. Bravo Mr. Coe!
There's a key word in your post: "detention." That teacher had a leg to stand on. He clearly had the support of the administration, as well as the parents. Nowadays, there is no detention. Administrators tear up pink slips right in front of the teachers and students. Any consequences for bad behavior is fought by the parents. Without a school culture of discipline, it's impossible to create a good class.
Brilliant
I agree. When students are about age 13 it's time for them to begin to be treated like adults and for them to get ready for adulthood. And we need to stop referring to college kids as kids.
That's very impressive. It's no wonder you remember and appreciate this teacher.
What you say is treating them as adults, I call treating them as valid and equal people. Children are too often discriminated against by default.
Their friends don't care, their parents don't care, the government doesn't care: but the teachers have to & they get the blame
Not the government's job to discipline children.
I I do absolutely agree. I am a teacher in France and we have to face the same problems.
My parents had a friend who taught at a private school, and got fired because he "smacked" a kid who was misbehaving. We grew up in Communism and we were punished for acting up, then we would get it at home! We had a reason to be respectful to the teachers.
You have to be brave to be a teacher today.many kids lack that respect which they ought to have
@@marinazagrai1623 Sounds like your reason was fear.
I've just completed a forty year teaching career in an urban school setting. I taught at this school for twenty-two years and the other eighteen at another urban school. I had a great career. My secret was simple: If a teacher WANTS respect, he must extend the SAME respect to his students. It's a two way street. I taught English and History and I had the ability to make the two subjects "live" by gearing my instruction to a vantage point my students could relate to. I also made them laugh, because I always felt that to make the temperature of productivity RISE, I had to crack a few jokes in order to LOWER the tension. I loved my students (well, 90% of them, anyway!). and they knew it. If they trust their teacher, they'll respond positively. I believe that I changed the course of many lives, and I feel proud to have done so. I gave my life to something I really wanted to do. Yes, the world is different today, but kids still respond to respect and compassion on the part of their teacher.
I was firm, but fair. I admonished, but never insulted or embarrassed any student. I always considered their feelings and my classes were always worthwhile. My "kids" used to tell me that I was "the bomb" (never learned what they meant by that), but I assume it meant something good. Anyway, at least I THINK it did. I can honestly say that I never had the problems a lot of other teachers had. Maybe I was just lucky, because I always remembered some of the lousy teachers I had as a kid ---- and was determined NOT to be like them.
Same here 30 year career love teaching....and mostly 9th graders...kids respond to cooperation. Its strange but those authoritarian days are over.
Yep. Sense of humor. Either you have it, or you don't. And if you don't have it, you suck as a teacher.
I can remember having teachers like you. They are never forgotten.
Congrats on a well spent teaching career. i'm certain you have many many students who remember you fondly.
Had a teacher like you 54 years ago. That is the one I remember favorably and did learn a lot and said useful knowledge has stayed with me all these years.
“More than half of you failed and the rest barely passed.” That was LITERALLY my math class last year!!!
Some things never change. I remember my teacher said the same things to us 15 years ago
Zaun Gästin exactly
Seems like it's more of a reflection on poor teacher performance. I guess it's easier to blame the students.
literally?!
@@lennomenno The way I see it is testing during the year is done for the teacher's benefit, to see what the students have learned and if anyone needs extra tuition. If lots of kids fail, then thats calls teacher for self-reflection and to question if changing teaching method would help. Certainly, he should not go forward until most of the class has got it... Alas, usually the teacher is under pressure to press forward in order to "complete" the curriculum and fill in the books.
My dad was a teacher and he said if a couple kids failed a test, it was their fault. If most of the kids failed the test, it was his fault.
So true! If more than 2 of my students missed a certain question, I went back and first studied the language of the question. Were the directions written clearly? Did I thoroughly cover the material?
"Fault"?
@@smnewstead4093 yes, “fault”. People aren’t perfect. They make mistakes and miscalculations. Sometimes they even do evil deeds. Fault.
@@smnewstead4093 Yes. That teacher should probably be examining their teaching methods to see what they can do differently - for example, identifying what concepts are common for students to struggle with and spend more time on those in class, or connect the student with tutoring outside of class.
I'm a high school teacher and watched this expecting to roll my eyes at advice to be super strict and regimented to control students. I'm pleased to see actually good advice. The details have changed in the last 70 years or so, but the general principles are 100% still true today. Relevance and respect will get you WAY farther than an iron fist ever could.
Thank you for serving as a teacher. It is only when we get older that we truly appreciate our teachers and I wish that I could find each one of them and say thank you to all of them individually.
@@Ed_Okin Thanks so much for your kind words. I'm sure your teachers would love to hear from you. Knowing that we've been able to help our students in some small way is the best gift any good teacher can ever receive.
As an ed student I was taught to beat kids like that until they form soft peaks. But do not overbeat! (whoops - that was cooking class, my bad)
Teachers today are liberal assholes. Never compare yourself to the upstanding conservative teachers of yesteryear
@@zeposgrave 😁 My students, most of whom consider me one of the strictest teachers they've ever had, would probably argue that point with you! I have extremely high expectations, I don't take any crap from anyone, and I believe in discipline when it's needed. I've just found that I have more success in terms of both student learning and student behavior when I treat them with respect and make sure they understand exactly why I expect certain things or why they're experiencing various consequences. In my experience, all you get from treating students harshly and disrespectfully is anger, resentment, rebellion, and, most importantly, resistance to learning.
Today, everybody would be on their phones as soon as the teacher left the room.
Left the room?😐
@@msbrowngault Hahahaha..😁😁😁😁😁 Exactly. They are on them WHILE I'm teaching...🌸
And posting a selfie. 🤳
@@JoannaCubana: I do not allow phones in my class. You leave them in your locker. If I catch you using one I take and keep it till after class and then return it to you.
@@georgschmidt494 That's a good idea!! But unless EVERY teacher in my school actually practiced this, there would be a mutiny!!!!😀 17 year old boys cry when I threaten to confiscate them...😭😭
1947: kid throws a piece of paper at another
2019: kid who gets hit with paper, brings a weapon
And shoots the teacher and the student.
Yep, guys made & threw "spit wads" or shot rubber bands. Sure hoped the teacher didn't catch you. There were the occasional fights between boys over misunderstanding, but never weapons.
@@nedkelly2035 : That's a sad assessment of our schools today. Probably true in some places. Fist fights were bad enough, but weapons were unthinkable in my school days. Too many young people now don't feel respect for self or others. Too little discipline instilled in homes.
You forgot to add that the kid that brings the weapon to school gets in school suspension as a punishment because his parents are both hitting the crack pipe at home.
"Whoever threw that paper, your mom's a ho" 😂
Mr. Grimes is just working through some PTSD after storming the beaches of Normandy.
Well, that would explain things.
Undiagnosed autism, Mr Grimes takes mathematics VERY seriously.
I agree with the idea of punishing the entire class accomplishing nothing...when I was in the 6th grade just before Christmas break, a girl kept acting up in class and the teacher said if she didnt stop she'd cancel our class Christmas party that we were all looking forward to. The girl kept acting up and the teacher punished the whole class for the actions this one girl. While we could all hear the other classes enjoying their Christmas parties, we had to sit and do an assignment. All this did was make us resent the teacher and the naughty girl responsible. The only thing we learned from this was that its unfair to punish innocent people for the actions of others. 😒
Making everyone miserable is the liberals mindset.
That would have worked when I was in 6th grade in 1978.
I remember being annoyed that one of my friends was acting out in class. I didn't see the connection between her behavior and that her mom had died. Back in the 1960s, there was a "get over it" attitude toward such events.
I moved to and started teaching in Italy many years ago and noticed that tactic..punish the whole class..is often used. At first I was appalled. In theory I still think it is unfair. But I must say, it often works here, it causes the culprits to change their behavior. This may be though because in Italy there is much more camaraderie and sense of community in a class..partly because they are the same class all through each school level, ,( all five years of elementary school the same classmates, same for middle school and High school..there is no such thing as electives) so they know each other very well and feel responsible for each other..In America, at least as I remember it as a kid, we were much more independent, everyone pretty much out for themselves. So that tactic would probably not work. there.
I think we should recognize that we are a community. If one person wins, we all win and if they lose, we all lose. For example, many people become rich after growing up poor. How many of them go back home to help those that helped them to get them where they are now? I hear of people doing this from other cultures, but not too much in the U.S. It seems unfair when this tactic is used, but it’s the reality of our community and our society. We are responsible for one another. Everyone does their part however small or big. Without each other, we are nothing.
This is way more progressive than I thought it would be. If this was made in 1947 why did most of my teachers in the 80's not know about these techniques? The few who did, frankly, just seemed like better people and bucked the trend out of personal morality. I'm teaching a class next week and will try a few of these techniques.
I was wondering the same. Actually most people in leadership and "middle management" of so many religions, organizations, and teaching situations do and have gotten solid advice since this time. Ive heard the private trainings and had family in high positions of school systems.
And yet i still wrote my first sentence.
The message gets out there, but its just out there. Kind of like how almost everyone "knew" chain letters like "Facebook will be free for you if you share this." Was bogus, but the raw human impulse was there to share that as a post anyway. things are out there or not out there and its like they arent or are despite.
Because by the 80s they didn't have these and people who cared enough to make them.
Because RUclips hadn't been invented yet. 😀
It's not reasonable to expect a teacher to be a master of diplomacy. The problem with this film is that it implies that a teacher never needs to use punishment. This sort of thinking, I think, led to the present situation where a teacher is often powerless to punish a student.
@@matthewbartsh9167Oh, you missed the point and just took the lesson YOU wanted to see and not the actual point. The point is similar to the point I make to people about the U.S. military NOW vs. around this time frame. Diplomacy is needed when, yes you may have the authority, but you are markedly outnumbered by students/other nuclear armed nations. The Teacher/United States military can’t clomp around throwing punishments left and right because, as you saw, that only breeds resentment, disorder, and contempt. The reason he can’t go throwing around punishments is because if he makes them more unruly, it disrupts the classroom learning and that’s his ultimate goal is to educate. Now when all diplomatic options have been exhausted, THEN you go nuclear and punish. Teacher wise, not military wise. The goal of a teacher is to educate.
Never turn your back to them. Never.
Oh, YES!
Alexander Hamilton yep that true.
And don’t show fear. Children can smell fear.
Sound like Grimes 1, not so much Grimes 2.
The second approach Mr. Grimes used in this film is much better than the first. Rare educational film where teacher's flaws are shown.
All teacher training films and texts start out with flaws.
Omg, yes! He accepted his part of the responsibility, as an adult, and then captivtied them. Thank you for saying this as opposed to the other comments.
Ya the second one is a lot like one of my current teachers. Who is one of my very favorite.
It is much harder to be a teacher than a student
@@EngPheniks incorrect.
But I will definitely say it’s much harder to be a QUALITY teacher than a student, even a quality student.
Being a teacher is easy, anyone who can shove pipe-cleaners through an egg carton to make a caterpillar can do it (actual example of homework). Being a QUALITY teacher? Much more difficult.
“Mass punishment is a dangerous weapon and doesn’t work too well” the Army disagrees.
As a retired teacher, I've always felt a good teacher inspires and motivates, not just the subject at hand, but the principles of respect, kindness and dignity to others. This is a curriculum that can be taught by everyone, for everyone.
Those students went home to two parent households that had stable environments. They were taught at home to respect authority and by extension taking responsibility for their own behavior.
Because no prisoners, thieves, rap1sts, con artists, murderers, or bad people in general existed in the 1940s.
In most cases, probably
Why respect authority? Shy not to learn to be authority themselves
@@thegovtdoesntcareaboutyou Is that you John Hinkley?😂😂
Many of the families you could gardly call stable
Those students look like they spent 2 terms in the 9th grade: Truman's and Eisenhower's.
To think, these kids would be 88 to 90 years old today. My father graduated in 1947.
I'm pretty sure most of these kids are dead now. If there's any still alive, they're probably in nursing homes.
They'd be more like 78 or 79.
@@jb6712 no thats the 50s tenegeer generation in this 1947 they have 5 or 6 ,7 years old
These kids were born in the 1930s
Sorry to say JR, most of these kids if not all are deceased. They're at least 15 in this film. The film was made in 1947. Today is 2023. That's 76 years ago. 76 + 15 =91
So at a minimum these kids are 91 years old today.
Average life expectancy in the USA now is 74.
There is no discipline anymore.
Today parents would be putting in complaints that a teacher raised their voice or singled their child out for bad behavior.
When I was in grade 9 our math teacher told us we were the best class she’d taught in more than twenty years and it was a pleasure for her to be working with us. That class was the most competitive and well-behaved class I’ve ever been in.
That’s a good technique!!!
The main lesson, being ornery, angry, and shaming people doesn't solve the problem. Reacting angrily to every slight gets you no where. If you are friendly, and genuinely helpful, most people will try to do right by you. How you respond to the few that still "try stuff" will determine how the rest of the group responds to you.
As a teacher, it is so fascinating to see how much has changed, yet how do much has still stayed the same. You don’t see standards and anchor charts all over the walls like today’s classrooms, but you still need a teacher with a witty humor that gains student respect. All a matter of seeing what students NEED!!!
Here we go again with someone stating, "AS a teacher... " This is like someone stating, "AS a Congressman, AS a doctor or AS anything.....I would....". A REAL teacher would NOT speak theoretically, but state, "I AM a teacher" not "AS a teacher..."
@@tjmmcd1 You're all knowing eh Tom?
@@tjmmcd1What kind of crack do you smoke? "As a" is by far the most common way to say "I am a" on the internet. If you don't like that, that's a you problem. The rest of us normal people will continue about our day without making up bullshit about whether someone's a teacher or not based on how they adhere to your particular beliefs on how something should be said.
Imagine that: a teacher actually dressing up to instruct his students. And his students reciprocate.
We didn't have a school uniform, but were expected to come to school neat & clean and parents saw to that before we left home in the morning. Teachers dressed appropriately too.
Ah, the good old days. When teachers were respected.
@@ChriStina-ws7qv : Not only teachers, but taught to respect parents and all adults too.
@brad renfroe : It is a shame how some dress coming to school. Would not have gotten out of the house in the morning if I was properly dressed for school. No uniform required, but went neat & clean and in clothes appropriate. School not only taught academics, but prepared us for career appearance in HS.
In elementary schools, we teachers are expected to sit on the dirty floors with groups of kids. We use glue and paint for many projects. In the morning, we have to feed the kids their breakfast. By the end of the day, my clothes have pen and marker on them. Wearing a nice dress or suit would be ludicrous. There is no school that teaches like what you see in this video. No matter what grade.
"The whole class can stay in for 45 minutes after school."
As the kind of kid who NEVER acted out, I lost respect for a teacher who did that. Why be good if you get punished anyway?
Its a psychological game. Collective punishment is supposed to result in the "good kids" (rule followers) to bully the "bad kids" (free thinkers) into following the rules.
By the way, collective punishment is a war crime according to the Geneva Convention, but hey, when has the U.S. government ever given a damn about commiting crimes? Never.
Cheryl McElveen Ok Karen
The same thing happened to me when I was in the 8th grade. The students in our science class kept on talking during lecture, but I was quiet. Yet our teacher still made ALL of us, including me, to stay for one hour after school. Junior high sucked!!
I was the kind of kid who wouldn't have come back after school.
This teacher should have been fired .
I come from the future to say that things have gotten worse.
Well then I came from the future FUTURE
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👩💻As a 17-year veteran of teaching 1st grade, I remember sitting in classrooms such as this one 49 years ago. Classroom Management is a skill that needs to be honed and refined repeatedly. As soon as I got the students on board and moving in a direction of feeling successful at the level they are on, teaching becomes facilitating. And in 1st grade, there is quite a spectrum of levels of learning and behaviors. In fact, Classroom Management was my number one priority and favorite thing to do. I knew if I had that under control, everything else was easy.🙋♀️🥰🇺🇲🇬🇧
Why does every single video from the 40’s and 50’s have the same guy narrating?
Who even talks like that today ?
He was the Mike Rowe of his day lol
Because it probably is the same guy. He would have been a voice over actor. That's how he made his living.
It's called the Transatlantic Accent. Film and radio people were trained to talk that way. Many RUclips videos about it.
Probably many of them were made by the same film company or organisation . Many of them had the same actors/actresses too.
As a teacher I always say we can’t teach anyone unless we reach them first. Building rapport is key. It doesn’t matter the generation. Positive approaches to teaching was part of Dewey’s Education and Experience published in 1938. Too bad the public education system ignores this great advice.
What are you talking about? Do you have any idea what's going on in public education or private education today?
Unproven approaches like Restorative Justice or PBIS are ineffective because they are simplistic or naive.
Administrators treat teachers and students like infants. Then they don't support teachers when things go really bad.
@KCE Yet again we see someone opening a theoretical statement with: "AS a teacher.." This is no different than someone satating, "AS president of the United States...." A REAL teach would say: "I AM a teacher...", not "AS a teacher..."
Today it's all about "Pride 🌈" and other useless crap that teaches nothing.
@@OneAdam12Adamthe person is a career teacher. Got your buttons pushed did you?
@@OneAdam12Adamunproven? Idiot.
I was born in the beginning of 90s and let me tell you I HAVE experienced this type of disciplinary school system and it helped so much to shape my academic path all the way to the university. We need this type of system in today´s society.
Good luck with that. Woke is taking over. I fear for the future of humanity.
@@funshine817 another person who has to bring politics into everything.
@@ktkat1949 So? Politics drives the world, so it is rather important. YOU are just another person who has to get offended and whine about it. 😛
@@funshine817 I fear humanity too. Racism has gotten worse, with part of the contribution being the weaponization of black existence with anti-wokeness.
@@funshine817 Then why are you offended and whine about woke culture which is not even related to this topic? Hypocrisy
These kids were angels. I actually sat on classes like this. Truly the good old days.
@Steve Kovaleski You missed the whole purpose of the film. It was about discipline not education or teaching levels. You also misinterpreted my comment. In comparison to today's class discipline they are angels. Today teachers must face the results of broken homes, drug influences and lib Communist/Socialist brainwashing. The title even specifies discipline.
@Steve Kovaleski You are hopeless, weird and out of your mind. You need to take a chill pill guy. This was simply a 50's tacky do it yourself teacher training film made in a garage somewhere. It is not a true representation of a classroom with the acting of high school Acting Class 101, for Pete sake. And they did act like angels in this made up scene compared to today's movies. You must think the 50's movie, Blackboard Jungle was real also. Did you just want to brag and rage against the machine or something? You need to calm down. Maybe get some help. No more comments with you guy. You are too scary!
@Steve Kovaleski You mean cleared for yourself. Definitely not cleared but simply vented.
High school in the early 1960’s was so different to today. The moment we heard our teacher coming we rushed to our seats and got our books out in readiness
I will never forget my junior high math and science teacher. He taught better than almost any teacher I've seen before or since, and genuinely loved it and kept the kids in stitches, making jokes about farting. Lol he was something else and I'll never forget him. He would be in his 70s now but I wish him health and all the best. ❤️
I have no way to know where he is or if he's even still alive
Zennon Szabo: he hasn't taught there in years. That much I know. And in this day and age I don't know what info they'd release to me about him
Yes, this is exactly the kind of teacher who gets remembered. The fart-joke teacher. Bet his students don't remember any math or science.
Ah, the good ol transatlantic accent.
ya i heard that thats not even how people talked back then. its just a style they liked to do for film.
Compared to how people talk today this accent seems like something out of a poem.
My grandmother was a teacher from the 1950's till she retired in 1976 👩🏫 and I can imagine her watching these videos 📺📽️🎞️
Hello how're you doing?
This is super simplistic for a simpler time, but at its core, there is a lot of truth here.
I taught from 1996-2022. THESE KIDS ARE AWESOME compared to what I had after COVID!
This is still really valuable for many young people in their teaching practice
If they only get this kind of information when they start teaching practice, then the university should be sued for poor quality.
Wish I had math teachers like that in school. He actually walked around and offered help to the students.
Exactly, respect is a better way to lead than through fear.
Balance is usually the best way 🙄
Many bosses should learn this too!
@@1911beauty You don't need fear to command respect.
Fear worked well on me, I only ever did homework for the one teacher I was scared of. At one point we had 2 teacher trainees. They were well liked, played football with us and all - but there was no discipline in the class and I don't remember anyone improving academically. I'm not saying that they were bad teachers, only that being friendly and respected does not replace experience.. Today's teachers in western countries are much more under pressure because of the lax attitude to discipline by parents and lack of support and mixed messages they (the parents) get from society and especially Internet. Everyone is an expert. Children themselves are the same as they have always been..
@@oakstrong1 If I did not like a teacher it only made me want to resist them more, much like the kids in this video. The teachers I worked hard for were the ones that treated me with respect and could actually explain to me why I needed to learn their content, and not just tell me, "Because it is on the test."
Parenting is a huge problem now a days though. I feel bad for the parents though. It is not always their fault. In today's economy most familes can only scrape by on one income. Parents cannot always be there to raise their kids because they are busy trying to feed them and keep a roof over their head. Surviving today is VERY different than it was back then.
I have completed my 30th year teaching. It takes practice to see things from the angle of the second scenario here. To be honest, this approach still works. Students want to feel respected and see that you care.
In a perfect world, this would be great. In my country, teachers have to protect temselves by recording 10 year old kids who are throwing them with things, swearing at them and threatening them with violence. Dicipline starts at home. It's the teachers job to teach, not to raise these kids.
But how do we expect students to learn discipline at home, when their parents are kept busy working.
But if we talk about the old days, before women Labours you’d be right.
Women staying at home raising children and men out working and providing their families.
@@zanazannazah8903 It's not about feminism and the 50s wife staying at home raising the kids. If that is the exception, then how I was raised disproves the rule. Both parents worked, raised 3 children (one of them handicapped) and raised my dad's youngest 3 brothers also. We were taught respect and discipline at home. The children of certain generations were raised differently I suppose. If I were not thought to be respectful and disciplined, I would not be the one taking care of my elderly father and handicapped brother now but instead would have left them gone and forgotten. I cringe at how some of the kids talk to their parents or anyone older than them today.
Discipline definitely does start at home. So many children are being brought up to believe they can do no wrong with parents constantly reinforcing this belief. The US school systems are failing in large part due to children not being taught real consequences for their behavior.
I honestly can’t imagine how easy teaching was back then.
Now, my students use loud profanity, refuse to do their assignments, hit or choke out other students, openly cheat, stare at their phones or have full-on phone conversations and often walk around the room while I’m trying to teach. Some students leave the classroom without permission, others enter into my classroom without permission to talk to my students.
I even had a male ninth grader finger a female ninth grader IN CLASS.
It’s unreal😪
that's sad :( Maybe get a better job?
Your administration should be backing your efforts to address these behaviors. Are they supporting you?
Kelly Marie yes!! Mine too... but I’m the problem!!! 😳🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@donaldfuck
Dont make a mountain out of a mole hill. I hope you've learned some class since then.
Find a better school? This one is dysfunctional.
Imagine Mr. Grimes attempting to teach a classroom full of today’s urban youth.
No teacher in there right mind would teach in an urban school.
He'd be six feet under
@scottbaino "Blackboard Jungle" is over Sixty years old. Nothing is NEW
Why don't you just say the n word we know what you are implying. If you want "urban" schools to be better than funding needs to be allocated. When you had a system of segregation that prevented blacks from acquiring loans to buy homes. And a public school system funded by property taxes. The wealth mostly distributes to the wealthier neighborhood and the schools in those area prosper where the poorer which tends to be in Urban areas but due note Rural will also have this problem will receive less funding.
monsterhunter445 bullshit! I teach in an urban school! Title 1 urban schools get more funding from democrats and hand outs and free lunch more then other schools so don’t start with the race card! It comes from the home and the parents ! Stop playing victim and teach your children to behave and learn how to act instead of running down halls, screaming, etc I live it ! Then if the kids want to learn they’re considered acting “white” as Principal Joe Clark said
lean on Me movie - can’t blame white people anymore . Joe Clark was the man! And yes white kids can be jerks too
We should have two types of schools: academic and trade. We force too many kids into academic classes when putting them on a trade track would serve them (and society) better. And no child who is disrupting the learning process for everyone else has a right to be in that classroom for long.
Any child can learn anything, it's all about the teacher.
@@ASmith-jn7kf A child cannot learn if others are disruptive. Those children must be removed from the classroom.
@@ASmith-jn7kfit is not all the teacher, it is the student and the parents
Gentle, Consistent, yet Firm Guidance 👌 is The Key to Setting Children Up For Success In Life!
in 2019 this teacher would be toast for harassing his students and breaking their spirits
That's because he was. Wasnt the narrator clear?
This is awesome. It encapsulates the difference between the good and bad teachers I've had.
This is something everyone should watch. Prospective teachers, prospective bosses, prospective business owners, prospective mothers and fathers.... etc.
It really separates the politicians from the leaders. Like the wheat from the Chaff.
My mother went to the u of ga during this time
She talked about GI's returning to college
And about football players that were too dumb to pass anything
And how she was ordered by a professor to do the school work of a football player so he could play ball on Saturday
She also had to complete her work
She refused to do the dumbos work and was threatened with explusion
SHE DIDN'T BACK DOWN God rest her soul
I honestly didn't think this video would be so progressive! They absolutely nailed it, and these tactics still work today! I've had teachers that were like both of the examples, the first teacher failed me and I had to go to summer school and take the class again. My teacher was AMAZING, and for the 1st time ever, I got an A+!! That wad was 30 years ago and I still remember that awesome teacher!
I'm a teacher. I try to be a disciplinarian but it's difficult with today's generation. I am NOT blaming them - I AM blaming the parents!
You're the problem. You're terrible at building rapport.
I blame the parents, too. Education begins at home.
and the parents were taught by your generation so save it.
You don't need to be a "disciplinarian."
Taught me how to be a better parent and relate to my children better. Thank you
This is why I teach at a private school. If kids don’t behave, they actually get punished.
Matthew Klahn you look like the type of guy that gets aroused by kids.
@@Alskdoenfkemfnek : How does your school punish & are these young children or teens? Do parents seem involved in their child's learning and do you suspect parents punish at home too if their child misbehaves?
Leave and don't come back? don't mind if I do.
Until you apologize...
In my first career spanning 25 years in the motion picture industry, I learned this most valuable lesson: leave the comedy to the professionals. In my second career spanning 13 years teaching Television Production to high school students, I learned that comedy was indispensable. It takes years after taking Classroom Management courses to truly master it. Laughter helps.
I've been an elementary teacher for 20 years and I would love to have a class like this. The demoralization of society that Yuri Bezmenov talks about has certainly worked.
Thank you! Someone else paying attention to what is going on! Yuri warned us, as did many others.
Good classroom management involves three techniques:
1. Intimidation
2. Degradation
3. Ridicule
Wish we had a video on this in my master’s courses before I became a teacher
I was hoping he'd bring out the paddle.
Was that the method at your school?
or the whips and canes ... lol
🤣
@@booth2710 : I imagine you say that in jest. The paddle was sufficient to get me and most boys thinking about our behavior.
during those times I think that was hardly ever nessecary - unlike today, when it would be nessecary, but is forbidden by law to be used!
Watching this video reminds me a lot of my Great Grandfather's life in school back then.
The overall demeanor of the class is almost humorous by todays standards to be sure; but the content as a whole is as relevant today as it was 76 years ago. I would use this video as a professional development tool today. The core concepts of preserving human dignity , self-esteem, real world examples, a willingness to be self-deprecating, not blaming (and disciplining) the group for the actions of an individual and a focus on providing individual assistance are as timely today as they were then. This is really a remarkable video and demonstrates that everything old is new again at some point.
Agreed! I am 65 and still teaching. Honestly, some humor and kindness can do a lot to manage a class well.
wow unbelievable just found the perfect teaching advice for my 5th year high school English class in Japan in 2019 from a 1947 teaching video! crazy !
Hey kids of 1947, think you don’t understand math?...Wait until your great grandkids bring home common core.
the best question I remember my math teacher saying to the class is" Who likes money? everyone said I do. She then said, money is based on numbers and that is math and that is why we are here. Everyone learned how to subtract and add and do percentages. She equated percentages to shopping sales for the girls and buying a car for the boys. ( it was in the 1960's)
Money is not god, but not less to god
@@syednasir4800 ?
This works with primary school maths, and some might need secondary school maths if they are working in carpentry etc, but most people do not use 75% of the maths they are taught after leaving school and most of what we do, we do with a calculator.
They sure can read a script, those kids.
When my kids were young, if they got in trouble at school, they got it worse when they got home.
I’m sorry they did that. My kids did get grounded for anything worse than a B though. If you pay attention and do your work, you can get an A, but everyone makes mistakes so I would allow a B. Anything below that and you just aren’t paying attention or not trying. My kids have the same rule with my grandkids and as a result, they all are honor roll students. Luckily for them, they get progress reports, so if there is an issue it can be addressed in plenty of time. My point in my previous post is that a lot of people act like their precious babies can do no wrong and always blame the teacher.
@@justaviewer904 : I don't think children should be tied up & belt beaten, but a smack on the bottom might motivate grades & behavior sometimes. My parents didn't punish over grades, but worked with me to help keep my grades good. The only school paddling I ever got was over neglecting some class assignments & those swats reverse my behavior.
For my parents it was the same except for math. They know I tried and even saw me studying so if I got a C they were lenient. There are bad teachers though. I had one math teacher fail our notes because the line wasn't visible enough on the graph even though everything else was correct and filled out. She'd come to class unprepared and expect us to be at the same level as her later periods. We were the Guinea pig class. I had one teacher tell us to google something because he didnt want to better explain it! It isnt always the students fault is my point. Some teachers suck.
@@zirrnorseman8068 : I can't and won't disagree with your assessment. There are teachers out there who have no business in a classroom. They reflect poorly on the majority of good teachers. Most of my teachers were very good and helpful in the classroom and my parents took the concept that learning begins in the home and practiced that helping me the best they could with homework and more so teaching me to be responsible and respectful. A few poor teachers made class difficult for me to learn. As I said, my parents never punished over grades, but would've had I been lazy or neglectful with my studies.
@@pamelapainter3195 If my parents punished me for bad grades, I’d always be in trouble. I had an undiagnosed learning disability in math, so I was always getting poor grades no matter how hard I tried. My brain switches numbers and signs and generally doesn’t process numbers like typical brains.
The classroom of today is much kinder and gentler, and the problem kids are far worse. The soft hand approach didn’t work. It only disarmed the disciplinarian.
It works when kids want to learn, they just want to be treated like human beings. I went to a private school in the 80s. My teachers were just as strict as Mr. Grimes if not worse. But there was a carrot. Once we accomplished the day's objectives, we could have recess until dismissal. It wasn't often, but some of us had two hours of recess. I'm sure that would never fly today, but was highly effective. One thing I notice is when the teacher's back is turned is when the discipline gets poor. Other than constant powerpoint, there should be a way to eliminate. Perhaps a TA that writes while the teacher explains. Kids would much rather chat than learn whatever the teacher is teaching, whether he's tough or nice. That's just reality.
11:43 "Old Grimes, or Grimy, as he liked to be called, is a pretty good egg."
LMAO
6:25
"Oh, come now, Mr. Grimes!"
Finally! An educational film that points out the teacher's flaws! In other films, it's usually the students who supposedly cause all the problems.
MizzKittyBichon classroom management is all about the teacher. If a teacher can’t manage his/her classroom, they are 100% at fault.
@@katiechisholm Completely false. Behavior by middle and high school students is a choice. When they act up they violate the civil rights of others in the classroom to get an education. We have a student at my school who acts up in every teacher's classroom but is especially disrespectful to female teachers. The other students are generally well behaved. Your attitude is why so many teachers leave the field. By the way, the student who is very capable has failed every class except PE- his choice. Meanwhile we have to deal with it until he is moved on to a continuation school. Dad is nowhere to be found and mom won't take the suggestions we provide.
Katie Trimue Because teaching near adults that it’s always someone else’s job to baby them into behaving like functioning humans is the best strategy.
This is a really good video. But in all honesty, teaching is not always as easy as it seems it should be.
Deborah Sylvester as a former teacher, I agree completely.
I actually agree with everything said in the film though, very informative :)
Yes, it made perfect sense. Of course it won't work for all classrooms, but having a sense of humour and letting small things slide makes perfect sense. Disciplining or raising one's voice is (or can be seen as) a show of weakness and kids will feel as if they won if the teacher does it.
@@tgwnn : He didn't even let the small things slide. He just dealt with them quickly and didn't turn them into larger things.
Including that the teacher is “horrible “?
Must have been fun for the actor teacher and actor kids to make this film! This was probably a reward for kids who got good grades- make a film about problem students (and their problem teacher).
These Principles of Classroom Discipline Definitely Needs to be Applied in All Public Schools and Colleges Today
When the guy went up infornt and mock the teacher by pretending to be him and the rest laughed I immediately thought of my classmates. Some things never change.
I totally did that in 8th grade because we had a really funny and goofy teacher who was running late. He came in and saw me and this other guy mocking him and made us continue for a few minutes. He was cool, though - he thought we were spot on and hilarious. We didn’t get in trouble. He even framed and hung up a mocking caricature a former student had drawn of him depicting his ear hair and high-waisted pants. He loved it. He remains one of my favorite teachers!
@@crazysingingchick shows you what a commie muppet the teacher is
It’s called reverse psychology, actually. It embarrassed us at first and then he gained our respect so we didn’t do it again. He was very smart.
We all have had good and bad teachers, this example showed why some are good teachers and the students like them.
Many teachers were very good, had many kids to like them, and had classes walk out dumb as a rock, since they were never disciplined. There were exceptions to what I just said, sure. But even those kids did not learn one third of what they could have learned, had there been some discipline in the classroom. But some people will never learn until we suffer the results of getting our own way for a few decades, and and we find that there simply is nothing else to point our fingers at, when we look for someone to blame.
There’s a lot of teachers today who could use this advice!
bec of what they are allowed to do they couldn't
even in the 80's when I went to school. there was a couple of Good teachers & they were always respected because of their good attitude.
And a lot of parents who raise these little brats that could use some advice too.
No,
He says how almost everyone failed and wasted meaningless time for exercizing authority. Also got everyone in trouble :/
I love it! "A friendly attitude, with a sprinkling of humor, goes a long way toward winning the regard and cooperation of the class, for respect is a more desirable molder of behavior than fear."
😂 “he can go fly a kite” that’s how my mom still talks!
I can’t get enough of this RUclips channel!!!
Hello how're you doing?
Mr. Grimes left to take a few sips off the bottle! Attitude problem solved! 😁
Mine was on the bottle (and smoking a cigar) at every break. Didn't make him less sadistic: he still liked to hit kids on knuckles with a stick or rap on their heads with his knuckles just for fun, or to punish for a mistake or poor handwriting. And he didn't even try to hide who his favourites were, showering them with favours and speaking with a syrupy voice.
I guess Roald Dahl also had one of those teachers and was using him or her as a model for Mrs Trenchbul in the book 'Matilda'.
A lot of stupid comments below...If you watch the whole video, this actually shows how little people have changed over the years. I was a drill instructor and this was just as relevant in that setting. Respect the students while showing firmness....they all have egos and want to know why they got something wrong. Set expectation, give feedback, and respect them even while instilling discipline. These students from 1947 are no different than young people today....just without phones.
I never understood why a whole group should be punished for 1 or 2 people acting out. It breaks the spirit of the ones who follow the rules.
@@franklinstephen3268 Are you from Nigeria?
Oh, I remember my class doing a similar type of rebellion against the home economics teacher, Miss Swift, when she bullied another student.
A teacher's in real trouble when the students spontaneously band together to commence unspoken coordinated rebellion.
Another thing: if I gave an important test and most of the kids failed, I'd say to them, "Well, guys, it looks like we all screwed up. You screwed up because you failed the test, but it was MY fault because I may have gone too fast. So let's go back to Square One, do the whole concept over and we'll take the test again. If you all pass, we'll have a pizza and coke party and I'll pop for the bill. They all passed the test. God, I wish those wonderful days with my wonderful kids were back. I never wanted to retire, but the System offered me a retirement package I couldn't refuse.
Really a party because they did what they were supposed to do? Sad.
You know, I come from Russia, with a rather strict discipline attitude at schools and universities. For a few months, I have been teaching to Dutch students... It was hell... They eat and talk during the lecture, come late, leave when they feel, and sincerely believe that me teaching them more means them studying less..... ((((
jurisprudens oh yeah. I teach different countries, and I’ve found out that several students think it is the teacher who teaches them instead of them teaching themselves. Waiting for the teacher to spoon feed everything. I try each year to be more and more clear on my expectations.
jurisprudens Dutch were always liberal
@@peggysullivan5396 ALL Western nations have been liberal since the late 1960s.
@Tiger Momma Were you a teacher? What about the other 28 kids while the one is reading?
о да, а еще у нас родители могут всыпать по первое число.
Yes, the second approach was better, but today's students are very different ... much more difficult to work with, for the most part. In many middle and high schools there is now chaos in the corridors and classrooms. Japan's classrooms are orderly and have success, because the students are aware that their actions have consequences. Put kids in school uniforms such as those in Japan and Catholic parochial schools, make sure that very unruly students are suspended, have no more than twenty students in each class (if possible), make certain that every kid has enough to eat (some schools absurdly won't serve lunches to students who can't afford to pay for them), and you will have better learning environments.
Everyone who isn't in academica always have solutions, how can they stay within the student ratio parameter?? The amount of teachers is not in anyone's control. Also what are the consequences for students in Japan? The consequence probably comes from their parents and parental discipline is lacking in America. So, it's not as simple as you think.
I agree with most of your suggestions. However, all schools in the US offer free or reduced lunch. Perhaps you live outside of the US? I am a teacher and having small class sizes would surely help.
@@ASmith-jn7kf I was a junior high school teacher for years. in New York. many times I hasd to intervene to help students get lunches.
As a student at a private school who has uniforms and aims to have no more than twenty kids in each class, I can confirm the problem isn't the lack of spiffy jackets. Out of the entire Year 12 cohort of about 30-something, I consider myself to be one of only a very very very specific few who act somewhat maturely, meanwhile, everyone else in the back of the bus chanting "IF YOU LIKE LADIES FOOTBALL, CLAP YOUR HANDS!" and blasting the "Kyle's Mom's a Bitch" song from South Park at full volume.
Trust me, it's the culture itself, not whether or not you dress everyone the same.
Uniforms? did you really just say that? Almost every public school in my city wheres uniforms and the students are still wild as hell.
This is pretty good. The first part shows that dangerous slide into obedience through fear and corporal punishment. The second half shows a good teaching strategy. If no one is paying attention at that point, we'd need to rethink the classroom from scratch. My guess today is that social and other forms of media are going to play a big role in the classroom.
And while the American students spent the next hour converting between 1 mile, 5280 feet and 63,360 inches…. their European counterparts easily recognized that 1km has 1000 meters or 100,000 centimeters and took the next week off on a holiday.
Sign of aging.. I watched through to the end, and was waiting for the 'tick tick tick' noise from the end of the reels
What did I learn from school? To home school my children.
Today, that might be the appropriate action to take. I went to school, but my parents did believe that they and our home was my PRIMARY place of learning. Parents were involved at school & followed-up on what school was teaching. I got help with homework when needed. It wasn't necessary, except one time in HS, because I was well behaved, but parents made it clear if I didn't behave, I would be punished at home too. Fortunate for my backside, they never found out about the paddling I got freshman year. Times have changed now it seems.
So, parents think cause they've had a year or two of learnin', they're just as qualified to educate their children as are teachers who have been trained and licensed by the state, to understand a wide range of growing and adolescent problems, and know what is and isn't expected at each grade level?
@@TnseWlms : You do make a valid point. I never intended to say home schooling was better option. Parents are a child's primary teacher. The best solution is parents work with school/teacher in the education of their child. Be involved with school...support teacher...demand schools and districts hire best teachers...work with the child at home in their class assignments...make it clear that child behaves at school & enforce consequences for misbehavior.
@@TnseWlms Some parents are licensed by the state and still home school.
@@TnseWlms There are schools with teachers that don't understand the material they were hired to teach. I'd rather homeschool. Maybe I'd finally be putting my university degree to good use.
I am currently studying to be a teacher. I see many teachers are on here too. Times have changed, but I agree yelling or getting *visibly* annoyed does not help. Mr. Grimes remained composed and professional.
Don’t tell the children about eating out your girlfriend, don’t be a rumor, and you’ll be ahead of 80% of “teachers” in your generation.
So how’s it going 3 years later? Have you ditched this career yet?
Well, its not as easy as the video makes it seem, but kids love it when you lose the plot. If you must get upset, it has to be done privately with someone who is interfering with the other's learning, otherwise you become a game to them.
To be honest, every single teacher has felt like acting in the same way as the first Mr. Grimes, and it absolutely does not work well. After 26 years of teaching, I can testify that the second scenario may not be the easiest - it takes a lot of personal discipline and patience as a human being to do what needs to be done, but that is what it takes. I’m impressed by this teaching film from the old days. I didn’t think it would hold up to today. 🙌
Manners and discipline begin at home!
Say it louder please
Yes you are so right the Bible book of proverbs c 10 v 22 says Train up a boy Girl In the way he should go even when he grows old it will not depart from him Eileen