What It Means to be TRULY Orthodox (w/ Dr. Jeannie Constantinou)

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024

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  • @GospelSimplicity
    @GospelSimplicity  3 года назад +16

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    • @MrCoachdunham
      @MrCoachdunham 2 года назад +1

      I’m an Orthodox Christian and I really enjoy your channel. I love how you bring people from various Christian faith traditions and just have a conversation. I haven’t noticed any Eastern Catholics on your show yet. That would be interesting.

    • @Jayce_Alexander
      @Jayce_Alexander 2 года назад +1

      @@MrCoachdunham I would be really interested in that as well.

    • @stephenbrannen
      @stephenbrannen 2 года назад +1

      @@MrCoachdunham Or for that matter, Western Rite Orthodox.

  • @jcgurl3773
    @jcgurl3773 2 года назад +226

    This guest is phenomenal!! I converted to Catholicism 12 years ago but recently began learning about the early Church and I feel so pulled to Orthodoxy. She is so crystal clear and passionate LOVE HER!

    • @Gregorydrobny
      @Gregorydrobny 2 года назад +19

      She is also wonderfully giving with her time. I emailed her with questions while I was doing graduate studies (in a completely different school), after my priest suggested I contact her, and she emailed back almost immediately with a novel's worth of information for me to consider. After exchanging a few emails, it was easy to conclude that she is a very open and giving person.

    • @TheDroc1990
      @TheDroc1990 2 года назад +5

      Come home!

    • @lindagomez9199
      @lindagomez9199 2 года назад +2

      To have the mind of Christ will guide you into all truth . It is the power of God unto Salvation.

    • @Vlad68RLH
      @Vlad68RLH 2 года назад +7

      Jcgurl you will not sorry coming into Orthodoxy. It’s awesome. I’ve been a convert of 47 years. She is spot on concerning our way of life. She gives an excellent explanation of why we are so different from Catholicism and Protestantism

    • @arthurhallett-west5145
      @arthurhallett-west5145 2 года назад

      Time then for you to study some Catholic theology! Then take a look at Ukraine.

  • @mirando100
    @mirando100 Год назад +49

    wow, i studied and graduated from the California Baptist University, studied 10 years reformed Calvinism, theology and Westminster confession, but....this lady put something in my soul....if i became orthodox it will be because of her

  • @jjpnw7904
    @jjpnw7904 3 года назад +261

    I'm being received as an Orthodox catecumen this Sunday. Thank you for this interview. Glory to God!

    • @marieegypt7091
      @marieegypt7091 3 года назад +12

      God grant you many yeara☦☦☦

    • @jjpnw7904
      @jjpnw7904 3 года назад +3

      @@marieegypt7091 thank you so much! 🙏

    • @frankherbert6476
      @frankherbert6476 3 года назад +8

      Welcome home!

    • @evans3922
      @evans3922 3 года назад +10

      Praise the Lord... We pray for all Orthodox catechumen brothers and sisters so that Lord make them worthy of the receiving in His True Church... Blessings

    • @roflcopta077
      @roflcopta077 3 года назад +7

      Same here!! God Bless.

  • @markomarko494
    @markomarko494 3 года назад +209

    Well said: Orthodox Christianity takes time to understand and acquire; it’s worth the time and effort.

    • @T_frog1
      @T_frog1 3 года назад +3

      You're right. It took 1054 years after Jesus to exist.

    • @joshuagilmore7522
      @joshuagilmore7522 3 года назад +20

      I believe it takes more than one lifetime. I grew up in the Catholic Church and converted to Orthodoxy about 9 yrs ago when I was 35. Understanding and realizing the Phronema, and how to train your nous takes a lifetime. What I realized while converting was that there there is no spirituality on western Christianity. I am so thankful I found the Orhrodox Church.

    • @joshuagilmore7522
      @joshuagilmore7522 3 года назад +25

      @@T_frog1 An offended Catholic I see. Well as an ex Catholic who grew up in the Catholic Church, going to Catholic schools and learning the catechism, I can understand the struggle of hearing the things I’m this video. I was there 13 yrs ago when I was searching for truth. It took me 4 yrs to realize that everything this women said is true. The Orthodox Church is the original church. And you won’t be able to understand it until you experience it. The deep spirituality that exists in the Orthodox Church has all but been lost in the west. And she nailed it when saying how the Catholic Church became so legalistic/academic in the Middle Ages, relying on intellect and reason to know God. It’s not possible.

    • @markomarko494
      @markomarko494 3 года назад +11

      @@joshuagilmore7522 many Bible quotations stating that The Way is difficult; why should it be so difficult if all you need is a: statement of faith, or to become wealthy in the name of Jesus, or recognize a infallible Pope?
      It’s difficult because The Way itself is difficult to acquire, parts will always be a mystery, to deny your self your passions ect is counter intuitive. It takes development, it takes Holy Traditions that change you as a person at the deepest level. Indeed it is foolishness and makes no sense until you commit yourself to The Way and you start to encounter Grace/Love like never before. I’m glad your on your Way. God’s speed to you.

    • @markomarko494
      @markomarko494 3 года назад +1

      @Hyperborean Futurism Amen!

  • @kierahall8665
    @kierahall8665 2 года назад +73

    Her book “Thinking Orthodox” opened my eyes to so much. Mainly how far I have to go in my journey of faith but still… I love her stance and her conviction and she was a big reason for mine and my wife’s entering into Orthodoxy.

    • @supercoopers8688
      @supercoopers8688 Год назад

      If Orthodox isnt about thinking then what’s the point of “thinking orthodox”🤔 “orthodox” in its meaning means “right thinking” Everyone has a theological conviction is based on a presupposition which is a way of thinking that brings about a right practice. It would be wise to say Eastern Orthodox have a different theological presupposition than the Protestant unless it would be presented as contradictive statements. Other than that, she brought a powerful expression on the word study on phromena!

    • @voulapetrakos7508
      @voulapetrakos7508 Год назад

      Welcome to orthodox Christianity god bless ☦️🙏💝

    • @gabrielacraciun3623
      @gabrielacraciun3623 Год назад

      δόξα ( doxa) =glory,praise

    • @mamafortuin
      @mamafortuin Год назад

      @@supercoopers8688
      More precisely a Christian “phronema” is its belief coupled with action. It is the orientation of the heart which gives rise to a way of life which is in accordance with the will of God, to the extend one opens him/herself up to the grace of the Holy Spirit.

  • @marieegypt7091
    @marieegypt7091 3 года назад +170

    I too thought that the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church were very similar. But now after being Orthodox for more than 10 years I see that they couldn't be more different. I was a member of 2 different Catholic orders so I spent a lot of time in prayer and learning about the faith. But I finally found the fullness of the faith in the Orthodox ☦ Church.

    • @jp-eg6md
      @jp-eg6md 3 года назад

      You should see the WR orthodox church’s

    • @marieegypt7091
      @marieegypt7091 3 года назад

      @@jp-eg6md What are you talking about?

    • @jp-eg6md
      @jp-eg6md 3 года назад +2

      @@marieegypt7091 just like Catholics have a Byzantine rite Orthodox has a Latin right

    • @marieegypt7091
      @marieegypt7091 3 года назад +9

      @@jp-eg6md Oh I see. Yes I know of WR but I'm not interested.

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 3 года назад +7

      I couldn’t disagree more. The love for the Theotokos and the importance of the Eucharist are the same in both Churches

  • @xpictos777
    @xpictos777 3 года назад +156

    That point about Christ not writing anything down, his dialogue in the gospels being about 15mins worth (read aloud) compared to 3 years showed me just how completely impoverished sola scriptura is. Christ did not leave us a book like Mohammed, He left us a Church.

    • @Reid-yy5nw
      @Reid-yy5nw 3 года назад +2

      but CHRIST NEVER once implied the organized, institutional, imperial cult ROMAN CATHOLICISM became. Besides, the ORTHODOX at Antioch and Jerusalem is the original church, and woefully in need of PROTESTANT reformation too! OK?

    • @xpictos777
      @xpictos777 3 года назад +28

      Actually I don't agree with you. If you read the Old Testament you will see that God was very specific about His instructions when it came to worship and the temple, very organised and very institutional. It is not just Antioch and Jerusalem, the New Testament literally has books named after Thessalonica and Corinth, which means Greece too. No offence, but the reformation into what? 30,0000 different denominations that don't agree on anything? No thanks, you can keep your reformation.

    • @wessbess
      @wessbess 3 года назад +3

      The Word of God judges men not the reverse. The church is made up of sinful men!!!

    • @wessbess
      @wessbess 3 года назад

      Orthodoxy is a cult of Mary.

    • @xpictos777
      @xpictos777 3 года назад +7

      Basic error. The Word IS Christ, not pieces of paper with ink on them, that is scripture. This is basic Christianity 101.

  • @triscat
    @triscat 3 года назад +115

    Austin. Whatever your future may hold, you are an incredible mediator of discussion. Thank you so much for your channel. This was a riveting interview and one that I will revisit.

    • @triscat
      @triscat 3 года назад +2

      @Messerah Allrighty then.

  • @royhughes2854
    @royhughes2854 3 года назад +79

    I had to pause the video at 31:52 to write this.... I have never in all my years gave much, if any at all, thought to our Orthodox brothers & sisters. I thought, as she clearly pointed out, that Orthodoxy was just another form of Roman Catholicism without a Pope. I learned a new term that I never knew before....PHRONEMA..... At this moment in the video, I am now very eager to go out and research & learn much more about Orthodoxy (after I finish watching the rest of this video of course!) and then truly reflect in prayer, much much prayer, what GOD wants me to do next with the rest of my life. Amazing.
    OK, back to the video.....

    • @evans3922
      @evans3922 3 года назад +13

      ruclips.net/video/piVdrtgo7Xw/видео.html
      Fr. Josiah Trenham videos Rock and Sand are very informative..
      God bless you brother... Search and pray and God will guide you safely to His true Orthodox Church.. Blessings

    • @spartanastas5560
      @spartanastas5560 2 года назад +11

      Glory to God... Lord have mercy on you, protect and Guide you on your Journey to the Truth.

    • @thankyou8622
      @thankyou8622 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/WuDz_hd2SdE/видео.html

    • @sheridannicolas
      @sheridannicolas Год назад +2

      I would love to hear an update about your journey!

    • @angelapandazis6512
      @angelapandazis6512 Год назад +1

      God wants you to be Orthodox

  • @Brigid.em.Galloway86
    @Brigid.em.Galloway86 3 года назад +94

    I’m currently reading her book, and now I will be able to read it “in her voice”. So that’s super cool. It’s been mind blowing and amazing! The more I learn, the hungrier I get for more.

    • @greenhaven-podcast
      @greenhaven-podcast 3 года назад +6

      Deacon Michael Hyatt is doing a great podcast series through the book right now. You could easily catch up. It's called "At the Intersection of East and West".
      Also, as she said, I would recommend her podcast for sure!

    • @bebetoyildrim8281
      @bebetoyildrim8281 3 года назад

      sounds perfect

    • @Brigid.em.Galloway86
      @Brigid.em.Galloway86 3 года назад +3

      @@greenhaven-podcast I’m currently listening to that podcast actually! I started from the oldest episode and working my way through them. I’m on “Mary as Theotokos” today. 😊

    • @BookofAkathists
      @BookofAkathists 3 года назад +3

      The Audio version is quite literally in her voice, if you like audio books too.

    • @evans3922
      @evans3922 3 года назад +3

      @Arthur Hallett-West hatred plus bitterness overflowing... Holy Orthodoxy trumpling down the Latin heresy

  • @nbinghi
    @nbinghi 3 года назад +97

    "....stepping into the living current of the life of Christ." That describes my experience, coming into the Orthodox Church a year ago as a lapsed Protestant.
    Chrismated two weeks ago on the Sunday of the 7th Ecumenical Council, along with adult son who was baptized. We are Home, at last.

    • @Mixali88
      @Mixali88 3 года назад +7

      God bless you both. Welcome home

    • @evans3922
      @evans3922 3 года назад +7

      Praise the Lord... Blessings🙏

    • @nbinghi
      @nbinghi 3 года назад

      @@Mixali88 thank you!

    • @nbinghi
      @nbinghi 3 года назад +2

      @@evans3922 thank you!

    • @Ssilki_V_Profile
      @Ssilki_V_Profile 3 года назад +8

      Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, Russians, Americans, African Americans, Mexicans, Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese, Arabs, Copts, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
      Colossians 3:11
      Welcome home, american brother!
      P. S. From Russia with love.

  • @Orthodoxyandlife
    @Orthodoxyandlife 3 года назад +57

    I love Dr. Constantinou! Her podcasts are extremely informative. Her book "Thinking Orthodox" is very good as well. I think everyone should read it, Orthodox or not.

  • @EricAlHarb
    @EricAlHarb 3 года назад +88

    Excellent, this woman really knows Orthodoxy and presents so well.

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake 3 года назад +2

      She should stick to that then and keep away from criticizing the one true church.

    • @jameshill8498
      @jameshill8498 3 года назад +14

      @@Kitiwake If you're dogma can't withstand a little disagreement then you must fear it's to weak to defend.
      The Orthodox make the same claim as the one true Church.
      As a Protestant studying the history and teachings of various traditions I would have to say the Catholic Church left the true Church by adding and changing dogma at the whim of one guy.

    • @mrmaggoo35
      @mrmaggoo35 2 года назад

      @@jameshill8498 Really. 1) Who proclaimed the prohibition on divorce?
      2) What is the Orthodox doctrine on divorce?
      Just one argument countering your assertion.

    • @josephsaab7208
      @josephsaab7208 2 года назад +1

      @@mrmaggoo35 I don't know but exactly what you mean but Jesus specifically stated that divorce would be disallowed except for cases of sexual immorality which is pretty much the stance of the Orthodox church.

    • @joshua_wherley
      @joshua_wherley 9 месяцев назад

      @@josephsaab7208 Sexual immorality is one instance, abuse of any kind is another. I don't understand why some Catholics seem to have this idea that the Orthodox are willy-nilly about divorce. Divorce, generally speaking, is a grave tragedy in the Church's eyes. But no one is perfect, and sometimes lines are crossed, sometimes two people should not be together. It's a complicated question.

  • @Yallquietendown
    @Yallquietendown 3 года назад +100

    I love how she just says the plain truth and isn’t worried about softening the blow

    • @frankherbert6476
      @frankherbert6476 3 года назад +10

      yea she's about as subtle as a boat paddle in the butt!😀

    • @evans3922
      @evans3922 3 года назад +7

      She nailed it

    • @Quantum1008
      @Quantum1008 3 года назад +9

      When she says that the theology of the Catholic Church is based entirely on human reason she is wrong. She is right to emphasize a way of life and mindset passed down from the early church but she is wrong when she says that this is not a part of the Western Tradition. That Catholic Church does have an apostolic way of life, and mystical mindset, and a theology rooted in mystery. She has the burden of proof to demonstrate her claims. All she does is make claims but she doesn’t substantiate them. One might say this is straight talk but it is also lazy and unconvincing because she is misrepresenting her opponents with easily debunked slander.

    • @nuzzi6620
      @nuzzi6620 2 года назад +9

      @@Quantum1008 Her point is that if the RCC really had that mindset, the _phronema_ present in the pre-schism and preserved in the Orthodox Church, then the West should not and would not have diverged so radically from the Eastern Church. Yes, she sweeps broadly, but this is an hour-long interview primarily about _a book she wrote which obviously speaks in greater detail._

    • @evans3922
      @evans3922 2 года назад +2

      @@nuzzi6620 well said

  • @Steve-wg3cr
    @Steve-wg3cr 3 года назад +39

    I think I learned more about Orthodoxy from Dr. Constantinou in this interview than any other video I've watched. As a Protestant, I found that I agreed with much that she said.
    Nice job Austin in asking questions and digging further into some of the things she said the needed a further explanation.

    • @spartanastas5560
      @spartanastas5560 2 года назад +1

      Make sure you listen to Searching the scriptures and Searching the Scriptures live... The first is about the Old Testament, and the second is about the New Testament. I've learned so much from these podcasts.

  • @ilovechrist914
    @ilovechrist914 3 года назад +135

    I've watched this like 3 times you both are amazing. Orthodoxy what christ taught what the apostles preached and what the fathers kept

    • @evans3922
      @evans3922 3 года назад +3

      Well said... Amen 🙏

    • @innocente7795
      @innocente7795 3 года назад +3

      Amen☦️

    • @APAL880
      @APAL880 2 года назад +4

      @Arthur Hallett-West The Roman emperors called the Ecumenical Councils where true theological doctrines were confirmed and false teachings were rebutted and condemned as such. All this by the Holy Spirit working in the Church through the saints.

    • @eve3363
      @eve3363 2 года назад +1

      No he didn't. Please stop lying.

    • @TheNikolinho
      @TheNikolinho Год назад

      hi. do we have any evidence that the 3rd-4th-5th and so on church fathers taught what the apostles preached and that nothing was added? seems very hard to believe because when we read the fathers, they all had their own opinions.

  • @teammine
    @teammine 3 года назад +33

    Thinking Orthodox is the first book I read on the Orthodox faith. It will forever be on my list of books that had a life-changing impact. Love Dr. Jeannie. There are times when I think she is "soapboxing" and then I remember her C.V...it doesn't come from lack of study. She actually knows what she is talking about. You did a lovely job of engaging and displaying her expertise. Great job!

  • @mamafortuin
    @mamafortuin 3 года назад +89

    Oh, wow! You were finally able to get Dr. Jeannie on your channel. This will be great. She is a fount of Orthodox wisdom and knowledge. She came to my church in San Diego to give a talk on St. John Chrysostom’s teachings on almsgiving. She’s a dynamic and charismatic speaker. Love her! 🙏❤️☦️

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  3 года назад +13

      It was a really fun episode!

    • @e.a.c.2175
      @e.a.c.2175 3 года назад +11

      I'm amazed at how well you take her critiques of Protestantism...I feel like most of my protestant friends would cringe at the line "Catholics and Protestants are two sides of the same coin"... they'd hate to acknowledge that the presuppositions are strikingly similar. And their defense would go way up.

    • @beverleypettit3577
      @beverleypettit3577 3 года назад +1

      @@e.a.c.2175
      You're a dream.
      You really have me chortling 😉😄😁

    • @lorenioooooas
      @lorenioooooas 3 года назад +2

      @@e.a.c.2175 He's good at his job. That's why he gets to have amazing people on his channel.

    • @rosiegirl2485
      @rosiegirl2485 3 года назад +2

      Austin...you have an amazing patience, which requires humility, which speaks to your personality, to do these interviews with such grace!
      As a devout Catholic...she has ruffled my feathers a few times...ha!
      I would like to see her in a debate with a Catholic, and a Protestant....not at the same time....though that could be fun...none of us are ready for that!

  • @eeaotly
    @eeaotly 2 года назад +12

    As an Orthodox who had the luck to be born in an Orthodox environment (and was not aware of the value of this luck) I feel humbled when reading the messages of the people who have become Orthodox Christians after being born and raised in other environments. Now, that I am in a "religious tolerant" aka secular country, I really get to SEE! I was just saying the other day to a friend of mine who is back in my home country: "You don't know just how lucky you are that you can at any time enter in any Orthodox Christian church that is in your way and you can light a candle and say a prayer!" And she - who has never lived in a foreign country - said to me: "Here indeed you are right! It's a luck and a blessing that I can enter, recollect and pray at any time in any church!" In my case, the only solution is listening to online live liturgy.

    • @JG4AU
      @JG4AU Месяц назад

      As a Protestant interested in the Orthodox Church, where can I find these online liturgies? I wanted to know more about the early church fathers as a reformed leaning Protestant and now I’m thinking maybe the early church fathers might have known more 😂

  • @e.a.c.2175
    @e.a.c.2175 3 года назад +48

    Glory to God! I was just listening to the podcast The Intersection of East and West which is currently doing a study on Jeannie's book: Thinking Orthodox. Immediately, I thought of you, dear Austin, as an inquirer into the faith. May it be blessed ☦️ you have my prayers

  • @miropecovic3876
    @miropecovic3876 3 года назад +35

    Austin, as an Orthodox Christian I have nothing but respect for you. Your humility in your interviews is wonderful, and I see many Christ-like qualities in you. Thank you for putting all this work in for your viewers. God bless you.

    • @traceyedson9652
      @traceyedson9652 3 года назад +4

      He’s the best. Such an example to us all.

    • @beverleypettit3577
      @beverleypettit3577 3 года назад +1

      Agree.
      I love Austin 🥰😇
      Thank you as always Austin 🕊
      And of course... Glory be to God.

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  3 года назад +6

      Thank you so much! It's my pleasure getting to do this

  • @davidreads2985
    @davidreads2985 3 года назад +114

    You should try to get Fr. Spyridon Bailey on the show!

    • @wonderingpilgrim
      @wonderingpilgrim 3 года назад +13

      YES!!!!A thousand times over. He's my favorite orthodox priest........and I'm protestant! XD

    • @jlmoreno9549
      @jlmoreno9549 2 года назад +3

      Yes yes!!! Great suggestion!

    • @xmc7189
      @xmc7189 2 года назад +2

      And Father Anthony Mourad too

    • @petervandolah5322
      @petervandolah5322 2 года назад +7

      Father Spyridon ... Yes ☦️

    • @antonioj.castaneda7377
      @antonioj.castaneda7377 2 года назад +5

      I'm reading his book Orthodoxy and the Kigndom of Satan. I highly recommend it.

  • @BrandonTalleyRealtor
    @BrandonTalleyRealtor 2 года назад +18

    A few years ago I listened to Dr. J’s series about how we got our canon of scripture, and it was incredible. Was excited to listen to this podcast and it was excellent. I see some comments that are a bit taken back by her passion, but I love it! I could sit and listen and learn from her for days. Very educational material here for anyone interested in learning more about the Orthodox Church.

    • @harrykezelian8009
      @harrykezelian8009 2 года назад +4

      Those commenters aren't used to interacting with Greek women! 😆

  • @MrStrawberryfields4
    @MrStrawberryfields4 3 года назад +27

    She's cool, you're cool, your channel is cool, and this interview was cool. You don't owe anyone in the comments a win dude. Thanks for just making great content.

  • @rachelles.4597
    @rachelles.4597 3 года назад +11

    Being an Orthodox Christian I absolutely love these videos; they are simple and just have a wealth of knowledge for everyone; including people within the faith that may not be privy or may have missed certain aspects of the sect. TYSM for sharing.

  • @Phoebe907
    @Phoebe907 Год назад +9

    I’m only halfway through this interview but it’s blowing my mind as a Protestant.

    • @CherryDreamer96
      @CherryDreamer96 11 месяцев назад +1

      Out of curiosity, which part did you find mind blowing ?

    • @LPSCaitelyn
      @LPSCaitelyn 3 месяца назад

      Orthodoxy is amazing and mind blowing

  • @glorytogodforallthings8448
    @glorytogodforallthings8448 3 года назад +19

    I am soooo looking forward to this! Thanks be to God for making this interview happen. Dr. Jeannie is a blessing and I have learned so much from her podcasts 🙏❤️

  • @glorytogodforallthings8448
    @glorytogodforallthings8448 3 года назад +7

    I couldn’t help but feel a little jealous that you got to meet and interview dr. Constantinou! I watched the interview 2x! Listening to her I understand better what our Lord said: “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.”
    Thank you again for this interview 🙏

  • @rosiegirl2485
    @rosiegirl2485 3 года назад +48

    I believe this Dr. believes what she is saying with her whole heart and soul. Though I do think she waves off Catholics and Protestants way too easily.
    I would love to see her perform with a little push back...maybe Trent Horn, or Jimmy Akin!
    I want to hear her explanation of why there is so much splintering within Orthodoxy.
    Thank you Austin for all the hard work, and for being able to contain your own emotion during these interviews!
    I know as a devout Catholic, that my feathers have ruffled a few times!
    God bless! 💠

    • @eglistellez9185
      @eglistellez9185 3 года назад +5

      I think she is to quick to dismiss the historical context on which two churches developed. That influenced a lot the theological work. One was the supremacy in Europe the other under the hammer of the Islam

    • @CatieD
      @CatieD 2 года назад +7

      @@eglistellez9185 I think she wasn't trying to dwell on the historical context...her mission is to explain orthodoxy especially to those who are already orthodox and dont understand the orthodox tradition.

    • @nuzzi6620
      @nuzzi6620 2 года назад +15

      Well, you could always, I don't know, read her book? And I'm not sure what sort of splintering you're referring to aside from fringe schismatic groups present in both RC and EO traditions (such as might include the SSPX, SSPV, IMB, etc. in your tradition). But hey, no need to debate here when tons of literature has been written and every question already asked and answered a thousand times over in books, online and of course in the real world.

    • @farmergiles1065
      @farmergiles1065 2 года назад +18

      The Orthodox faith is not splintered. It is just not monotone, as she tries to point out. The faith is consistent, but doctrine does not dictate all interpretation. The faith is taught first of all by the Holy Spirit, as Christ Himself said it would. So it is taught to full human beings, not just to their minds, but to their hearts, to their souls, even to their bodies. It is a faith that is lived, a faith of deeds, a cooperation of God and the faithful, producing the Christian life, made possible by the in-dwelling of God in His people, creating the Body of Christ. Christ is the vine, we are the branches. Living together, and living together with God, there can be no inconsistency. Inconsistencies are a product of sinfulness, but God came to overcome that sinfulness within us, and gave us the Holy Mysteries as the means to do so. Faith is oneness with God. Orthodoxy and its doctrines do not accomplish that. They point the way to Who does.

    • @breambo3835
      @breambo3835 2 года назад +4

      Here is a recent debate between Trent Horn and Jay Dyer on should Christians accept Natural Theology which is the stance of the Roman Catholic Church. Trent tried his best but was refuted by Jay.
      ruclips.net/video/tLeqQaoSeyQ/видео.html

  • @franciscovasquez9417
    @franciscovasquez9417 2 года назад +7

    Wow this woman truly triggered so many people in this comment sections. Just like video games if you encounter opposition, it means your going the right way. God bless you Dr. Constantinou! ☦️

  • @ToniMilak
    @ToniMilak 3 года назад +19

    You do a great job of finding the right people to interview :) looking forward to listening in!

  • @kevinhughes3477
    @kevinhughes3477 3 года назад +10

    Love her so much. She is really awesome. And she is one of my favorite people that I have actually had the joy of interviewing as well!

  • @lafredtv3006
    @lafredtv3006 2 года назад +7

    Hi Austin! Thank you for your channel. I do appreciated it. The Lord is leading me to Orthodox faith.. God bless your ministry. From Philippines.

  • @xaviorjimenez2227
    @xaviorjimenez2227 3 года назад +26

    She comes off a bit brash but I think it's just because she's explained this topic so many times. Very informative and important. The phronema of the Father's is the reason I'm Orthodox. Not because of any theological stance

    • @rdubyatjr
      @rdubyatjr 3 года назад +8

      I felt a bit the same way but have to remind myself that some people simply communicate this way when their passionate about something. I too think she has explained this many times and this contributes. But as it went on I felt her soften up a bit when taking about the Lord and his goodness.

    • @OrthodoxyAndEnvironment
      @OrthodoxyAndEnvironment 3 года назад +12

      Direct and to the point is why I love her as an apologist. Orthodoxy is fact.

    • @axelbatalha2830
      @axelbatalha2830 2 года назад +1

      I believe she was assertive, nothing else.

    • @Phoebe907
      @Phoebe907 Год назад +2

      It could be perceived that way, yes, but even as a Protestant, it didn’t bother me. I am finding this interview quite fascinating!

  • @Mr.Peck88
    @Mr.Peck88 3 года назад +16

    I don’t think Catholics or Protestants think you can ever approach defining everything about God. Both have a great sense of mystery about God. I think she overstates this idea quite a bit.

  • @justmyvoice7
    @justmyvoice7 3 года назад +35

    Really love what I’ve read from her book so far! Coming from a Protestant background, it’s been enlightening to gain a deeper understanding of the Orthodox mindset, even having been Orthodox for six years now.😬

    • @Quantum1008
      @Quantum1008 3 года назад +2

      Do you think she is unfair to the Western Tradition? She is right to emphasize the way of life and mystery passed down from the early church but she misrepresents the Catholic Church. Their tradition includes deep spirituality of mysticism and contemplation. She is right to reject any attempt to establish a completely rational basis for theology but the Catholic Church officially rejects this as well. She seems to paint with too broad a brush and speaks about things she knows nothing about. I find it hard to take her seriously when she misrepresents her opponents so badly. That’s called a straw man argument. She ought to “steel man” the Catholic point of view, interact with the best and most robust version of your opponent’s arguments. What she is doing seems lazy and untrustworthy. She says she appreciates Austin for encouraging honest and good faith discussions between Christians but she unfairly bashes Catholics without warrent. She lies about them and slanders them with blatant misinformation. So sad.

    • @MrStrawberryfields4
      @MrStrawberryfields4 3 года назад

      The Roman church "officially" rejects a lot of things that it has brought about for centuries. The issue isn't what you say you believe but how your beliefs influence the fruits of your faith. And we believe history speaks for itself in this regard.

    • @Quantum1008
      @Quantum1008 3 года назад +1

      @@MrStrawberryfields4 I understand that and accept that. But what are the fruits? Arrogant misrepresentations and libel? Endless schisms. Thinking the worst of others? Judging Orthodox as “liberal” or “ecumenist” for not adhering to a conspiracy theory of history?

    • @frankherbert6476
      @frankherbert6476 3 года назад +7

      Yea when I was Chrismated I was told it would take 10 years to become truly ORthodox. I was really insulted and put off. Now, looking back on the past 6 years, I'll be lucky if its 15!😇

    • @Quantum1008
      @Quantum1008 3 года назад

      @@frankherbert6476 Dr Jeanne is like the man who prayed, “Thank God I’m not like those other people.” She is so arrogant and she lies. If all she was doing was saying “I’m proud to be Orthodox. I believe it is true and here is what makes it different.” That would be fine. But she lies about the Catholic Church and protestants. She is right to emphasize the way of life and mindset and the mystery passed on by the early Church. But she is just wrong when she says that that Catholic Church doesn’t have these things and that they have a theological system built completely on human reason. Those are just bald faced lies and so easy to debunk that I’m surprised that she asserts them so boldly. That is why she is untrustworthy.
      What she is doing is called strawmanning. She constructs the worst possible rendition of her opponents position, a flimsy argument that she can knock over with a tiny puff of wind. And it’s good for her that it is so easy to knock over because her own arguments are so vague and amorphous. Since she think that Orthodoxy is a kind of indescribable feeling she feels no need to actually say anything concrete. Consequently she says very little and is not convincing unless you are already a fan boy. Also, strawmanning is uncharitable and insulting.
      What Christians should do is steel man. That means constructing the best form of your opponent’s argument and interact with that.
      Dr Jeanne sounds rude, arrogant, and misinformed. At best. I believe that she is slanderously lying and that is why I don’t trust her.

  • @prodigaldaughter00
    @prodigaldaughter00 3 года назад +23

    Best interview yet. I learned SO much thank you both so much!! I am a cradle Orthodox Christian with a degree in theology and I have been struggling so much as I raise my children with which Christian tradition makes the most sense to me. Your channel has brought me back to orthodoxy and I am so thankful, this interview more than any other has clarified things for me. THANK YOU

    • @CatieD
      @CatieD 2 года назад +1

      So resonate with this. Blessings to you and your children ❤
      Also the interview notwithstanding, I wonder about incorporating elements from catholicism with my own future kids? (Currently pregnant with the first) like teaching them about some wonderful catholic saints and traditions? What do you think?

    • @prodigaldaughter00
      @prodigaldaughter00 2 года назад

      @@CatieD of course absolutely! Rooting them deeply and firmly into faith gives them a wonderful foundation for whatever life throws at them. For our family orthodoxy is the way for sure, but if Catholicism is what resonates most deeply with you, then of course pass that on. I recommend reading "Out of the Ashes" and the "Benedict Option" as 2 great books on why we need to raise our children with faith at this moment in time.

    • @CatieD
      @CatieD 2 года назад +1

      @@prodigaldaughter00 thank you so much for the thoughtful reply! I guess my concern is that i dont want to confuse them by teaching them the catholic tradition when we go to an orthodox church but on the other hand one of my greatest dreams is to see the churches reunite. thanks for the book recommendations... haven't heard of out of the ashes, i'll check it out! ❤

    • @prodigaldaughter00
      @prodigaldaughter00 2 года назад

      @@CatieD I see your point. I think if presented as a custom you grew up doing and framed that way. As well as explaining how and why it's different from the orthodox that could be nice for your child(ren). Blessings to you on your journey of motherhood, it's an absolutely wonderful experience

    • @jenniferdefusco7724
      @jenniferdefusco7724 2 года назад

      @@CatieD You could simply approach the stories of saints, etc. as history and explain as you read them that these stories carry weight for you because of your upbringing and thus pass down your family culture to the next generation.

  • @anonnymouse554
    @anonnymouse554 Год назад +1

    Excellent interview! I was already reading "Thinking Orthodox" and almost everything Dr. Constaninou has to say confirms my joy that God led me to the Orthodox Church.

  • @adambenedict6155
    @adambenedict6155 3 года назад +9

    Austin, You did it! You brought Dr. Jeannie Constantinou on board! Well done!

  • @philmattox8500
    @philmattox8500 3 года назад +8

    Austin, I am so grateful that you had Dr Constantinou on. It is very timely for me personally. I'm a member of St Justin Martyr Eastern Orthodox Church in Jacksonville Florida but I attend a weekly men's bible study at St John of the divine revelation Orthodox Church also in jacksonville. We are shortly to begin on a book by Father Tom Hopko

  • @matthewjamesb.234
    @matthewjamesb.234 3 года назад +11

    Whew this was so good. So so good. Thank you for this

  • @stevobear4647
    @stevobear4647 2 года назад +4

    WOW!! This was great. Thank you for bringing Dr. Jeannie on your channel.

  • @laceygreenwood
    @laceygreenwood 2 года назад +4

    This was a pleasure to listen to; I love Dr. Contantinou's zeal. It's easy to see how she loves the heights and depths of Orthodoxy and and has put her heart into learning so she can express it clearly--as she said, "Be obsessed!" We all should be in earnest, and never stop seeking, learning and growing in the most Holy Faith--not for head knowledge, but to know the exceeding riches given to us in Christ and through His Holy Church. God is so good to pour out great spiritual riches upon us, if only we truly desire it! Much more can be said, but this was a great summary!

  • @KyleNewsom-v8x
    @KyleNewsom-v8x 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have become Orthodox thanks to many different people but u were my main introduction to it thankyou

  • @conorjones6212
    @conorjones6212 3 года назад +6

    The actual best part about your premieres is they always drop right as I get back from class so I can always watch them live

  • @kansashoneybadger7899
    @kansashoneybadger7899 Месяц назад

    Have to give Austin credit for reaching out to someone who is truly knowledgeable about Orthodoxy and engaging in a real conversation respectfully and thoughtfully.

  • @adelinacod5683
    @adelinacod5683 3 года назад +8

    Greetings from a romanian Ortodox Christian 🙏 God bless you 🙏

  • @George-ur8ow
    @George-ur8ow 3 года назад +8

    I learned so much, and also remembered things i've forgotten. Wonderful interview, excellent questions.
    Will be rewatching this one!

  • @George-ur8ow
    @George-ur8ow 3 года назад +15

    Wow, looking forward to listening. Have read much of her thesis (which later became a book) on the Apocalypse, it's a very comprehensive work.

  • @stellajacovides9676
    @stellajacovides9676 2 года назад +1

    Dr . Jeanne is a great blessing . Her immense knowledge , experience and open hearted spirit will allow her to be impactful to all .
    We need spiritual unity and I think God rip use Dr .Jeanne to help unite our splintered Christian faithful . Imagine how much spiritual unity will illumine the world . She’s a great spokesperson for truth . May those that have ears let them hear . Axia! Most worthy !

  • @grahamwilliams8871
    @grahamwilliams8871 3 года назад +10

    I'd thoroughly recommend her audio book. Usual great interview by Austin.

  • @MossyRock-g9i
    @MossyRock-g9i 3 года назад +14

    Man, good work keeping up the poker face. You were sweating! She is an avalanche of Orthdooxy. This is how my dwindling set of non-Orthodox friends must feel when they make the mistake of asking me-or remotely bringing up-theology, God, or church. Haha. Not that I'm anywhere near her level except perhaps in word count.

    • @michaelhodges2391
      @michaelhodges2391 3 года назад +7

      She's an avalanche of baseless accusations with no evidence behind them. The early Church didn't teach the Papacy, didn't teach the Immaculate Conception, didn't teach Purgatory, she made those 3 baseless accusations and offered no evidence to back them up. I understand this was not the topic of the conversation but she can't just drop a bomb like that and think there's going to be no pushback. There is so much evidence for the Papacy and for the Immaculate Conception, and there is certainly evidence of Purgatory in the early Church as well. I can show you there is and she can't just say the early Church didn't teach that when they clearly did. Then she said many many other problematic positions that can't all be brought up but I will say the Orthodox are in SCHISM with each other so don't act like you're all in unity. Also if you Orthodox would like to watch a debate on the Immaculate Conception go watch the debate between William Albrecht and Father Ramsey. I don't mind her being passionate and having strong beliefs but please stop making blanket claims that you cannot back up. Church history does not permit the view she took in this dialouge.

  • @ryanmcmilin5267
    @ryanmcmilin5267 3 года назад +11

    I'll share a thought from my personal experience within Baptist/Non-denominational circles within America. I agree with Dr. Constantinou that rational thought and the desire to prove beliefs from the text/history does exist in part, particularly in the pastorate and places of high learning. However it certainly seems that the average churchgoer is not leaning on the rational arguments nor are they even aware of many denominational distinctives. They come for the experience, they come looking for community worship, and they come looking for guidance in their day-to-day. My assumption is that the typical Orthodox and Catholic believers are doing the same. I can see where she is coming from in critiquing the direction that leaders within Protestant and Catholic churches have gone, but it seems to me most of Christendom is made up of people not asking "Why should I believe", but rather "What should I do now that I believe". Folks listening to this channel (self-included) who are interested in the distinctions and the history and the "Why" are in the minority. I will say that my perspective is terribly limited and my education is sadly relegated to the interwebs and a few books, but the mindset of accepting the teaching of our local church with the goal of loving our neighbors and thereby demonstrating our love and appreciation to God is, in part, what binds the universal church, and isn't that the "Phronema" described?

    • @CatieD
      @CatieD 2 года назад +3

      This is so beautiful. 100% agree. I'm starting to feel like a broken record saying this but the thing with this topic is it is extremely niche. This is intended for the ears of orthodox people, particularly in the US where we are so small, who dont understand the uniqueness of our own tradition. (And it is extremely helpful for that, thank God for Dr. Constantinou!) In time, we'll be able to explain it (and more importantly live it) in ways that dont offend the ears of our western christian brothers and sisters. Blessings🙂

    • @spartanastas5560
      @spartanastas5560 2 года назад +2

      From what I heard... Phronema is also a word that my mother used to yell at me when i was young. "Katse Phronema!" she would yell, and in that context, it means "SIT STILL and Correctly" (with foreshadowing of pain as she pointed at her wooden spoon) That is what it means to be an Orthodox Christian... without the wooden spoon of course. We sit still, and correctly according to Christ's and the Church Father's teachings. We don't move quickly because that's how mistakes happen. Phronema also requires and understanding of context and knowledge of how life was in the days of Christ. The Orthodox Church uses the same liturgy as we did in the 4th century, and sometimes earlier, as they use different ones throughout the year. Understanding people from the founding of America is sometimes difficult and that was only 245 years ago. They had a different language, different thought process and different way of life. Yes, Christ is the center of all our Churches and Denominations... but according to the New Testament and the Holy Fathers... if interpreted incorrectly, you may end up at the wrong location. And if the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all act as one... how can we explain the 40,000 denominations that were created because people claim that the Holy Spirit led them to start a new Church? Does it look like the Original Church? The Original Church was Liturgical.
      We all have a job to do, and that is to find the true Church. Most believe that they've found it, but some don't realize that there are 40,000 other roads. Orthodoxy does not believe that everyone gets saved and we don't believe only Orthodox will be saved either. Christ alone will judge us all, and I would rather live a strict life that follows the ancient Church because that is where the experts were. Read Matthew 25:31-46. I'm not a theologian or clergy... just adding my opinion. God bless!

    • @Demetra719
      @Demetra719 6 месяцев назад

      In a sense, yes I think so. However, an example of this being more on the “not exactly” side would be for example, some Protestant churches who have sort of veered so far off in their own direction that they are teaching things that are very dangerous to Christians and have roots in the occult, but most don’t realize that because they never spent time in the occult. Whereas, Orthodoxy has taken such pains to preserve its traditions and “phronema” over time that it is very difficult for it to veer off course in such a drastic manner and mislead its people, and is really the closest to what was taught by Christ that exists…. For me I find more spiritual protection in that than the more watered down and often “veering” ship that can be Protestantism at times.

  • @xmc7189
    @xmc7189 2 года назад +8

    It's refreshing to see a woman explaining the ancient faith which is usually considered a topic only for male preachers

  • @chrisj123165
    @chrisj123165 3 года назад +11

    I really enjoyed this conversation, however as a Lutheran I believe she painted the protestant camp with a very wide brush. Lutherans are extremely comfortable with mystery and paradoxes that are presented in the bible. We have our systematic theology but also can see what happens during the Eucharist as a wonderful mystery.

    • @MrCoachdunham
      @MrCoachdunham 3 года назад +5

      I haven’t watched the video yet but she explains in her book that she does, as you said, “paint the Protestant camp with a very wide brush,” and she makes an apology in the beginning of the book. When speaking about Protestant faith traditions, it can be difficult. We are Orthodox and send our daughter to Christian Classical school and Lutherans such as yourself are not reformed enough for some people at the school lol.

    • @chrisj123165
      @chrisj123165 3 года назад +1

      @@MrCoachdunham thank you for that clarification!

    • @zealousideal
      @zealousideal 3 года назад +4

      That’s because there are tens of thousands of Protestant denominations …how can she cover them all? But yes, she’s absolutely right (as someone who was ex protestant) she covers the basics of what most of them think and believe.
      Of course, there are some Protestants or evangelicals that are more about mystery and less rational. (Ie. Pentecostals, charismatics) But not in the same way as Orthodox are, by a long shot. Also, EO know how to balance it correctly, because we only do what the early church did. Lutheranism, although they hold some similarities, is no where near what Orthodoxy is. We have many ex Lutheran priests who are Orthodox priests now.

    • @chazcontramundum2224
      @chazcontramundum2224 3 года назад

      Pentecostals/Charismatics ALSO rely on mystery and "mystical" experiences... in some ways more than the pietistic Lutherans (what I understand to be the most mystery-friendly variety of Lutherans). That doesn't mean that there is much in common (or even "this" in common), even in terms of definitions. Also, there are many streams of rationalistic Lutherans (eg LCWS), humanistic and/or counter-rationalistic Lutherans (ELCA), etc. Even within the denomination that I perceive to be the best (LCMS and some of its international concordant partners), there is quite a variety from parish to parish.

    • @chazcontramundum2224
      @chazcontramundum2224 3 года назад +2

      I forgot to identify myself... almost 30 years Orthodox, before which I was an Evangelical and Reformed pastor, missionary, and seminary professor.

  • @orthodoxboomergrandma3561
    @orthodoxboomergrandma3561 3 года назад +6

    reading her book now! this will be great to go with it! I am seven years Orthodox after being a Hindu, a Protestant and finally a Roman Catholic until finding the fullness of Orthodoxy. I have been gaining insight on where my phronema is not Orthodox and struggling through ascetic prayer etc to cleanse my nous, especially of western feministic rationalist notions! Thank you for this!

  • @joer5627
    @joer5627 2 года назад +8

    Thank you Austin. A group I attend is reading “misreading scripture through western eyes”. We are still early into it but it seems to have some common features mentioned by your guest.
    It I need to develop a bit of a better appreciation of the early church Fathers.

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  2 года назад

      I've heard great things about that book

    • @KayElayempea
      @KayElayempea 2 года назад +2

      I read that book a few years ago, it is very thought provoking, definitely worth reading! Enjoy!

  • @xmc7189
    @xmc7189 2 года назад +6

    I agree with her. Confession is the best part of your faith.

  • @bebetoyildrim8281
    @bebetoyildrim8281 3 года назад +48

    I learned so much, and also remembered things i've forgotten. Wonderful interview, excellent questions.
    Will be rewatching this one!,besides is anyone currently accepting sugar daddy application on here ? i'm seeking a beneficiary arrangement for sugar babies gift and allowances will be sent weekly.

  • @courtneykees21
    @courtneykees21 6 месяцев назад

    I've just discovered this channel, and this video is absolutely one of my favorite of those I've seen so far.
    A recent Wesleyan converted Orthodox, just for context.

  • @viktoriaregis6645
    @viktoriaregis6645 2 года назад +3

    Somehow I am attracted to the Orthodox Church because it make sense. And the mysticism the same time. I really like that Orthodoxy admit that not everything can be explained. I do feel a little bit lost in the liturgy coming from a protestant evangelical background, but I have come to appreciate the icons more than I used to. There is a wisdom as well in a way I haven't seen in the western church.

  • @thedjhoneybear4368
    @thedjhoneybear4368 3 года назад +20

    I'm a Protestant convert to Orthodoxy and greatly enjoy Dr. Constantinou's book and have personally met her. She signed my copy of the book and is an insanely brilliant person. That being said, in this interview at least, I think she set up some straw-men arguments against some Catholic and Protestant thinking. She was clearly trying to be respectful while decisive, which I respect, but I was disappointed in her handling of our brother's and sister's traditions. I don't think she was wrong in anything she said conceptually, but throwing everything wrong within theological discourse upon the West (when Western Orthodoxy itself is a beautiful shared tradition) and acting like the East is totally free from problems within theological discourse because our Phronema is unbroken I think is not a fair argument.

    • @panokostouros7609
      @panokostouros7609 2 года назад

      Ok, but your emotional appeal to your "brothers" and "sisters" isn't an argument either

    • @baoduong2203
      @baoduong2203 2 года назад +1

      @@panokostouros7609 I don’t think DJHoneyBear was trying to make an argument, but was just offering a criticism.

  • @pamarks
    @pamarks 3 года назад +4

    This is exactly what I've been thinking. The overall paradigm of the Church is equally important to its individual teachings and practices.

  • @lindsayzobenica3403
    @lindsayzobenica3403 10 месяцев назад +1

    Serbian Christians between 1915-1985 (roughly) enjoyed leadership of Ljotic. They were Ljoticanin. These were Serbs of the Orthodox mind. An ethos, dedication, carriage, and faithfulness unique in their time

  • @Mr.Peck88
    @Mr.Peck88 2 года назад +3

    Although I disagree with some of the things Dr. Jeannie Constantinou says, I am really looking forward to reading her book with an open mind. There is so much to learn from the Orthodox Church.

    • @orthodoxos1971
      @orthodoxos1971 2 года назад +1

      Regarding Christianity, there is EVERYTHING to learn from the Orthodox Church

    • @Mr.Peck88
      @Mr.Peck88 2 года назад +1

      @@orthodoxos1971 There are too many great writings by saints in the Catholic Church that I have to respectfully disagree with you. However, I do know exactly why you would say that and I do respect your statement.

  • @jenniferweinzettel6702
    @jenniferweinzettel6702 3 года назад +27

    As a recent Orthodox convert (from Protestantism) I found her latest book to be AMAZING. I also found it (and many of her podcasts) to be a bit harsh toward non-Orthodox and wouldn't just toss it out to any of my Protestant friends. I'm curious to hear her speak here and if it will be a similar vibe. She's fantastic - her Search the Scruptures podcast changed my life!

    • @marieegypt7091
      @marieegypt7091 3 года назад +1

      I completely understand what you mean. I am a convert from Catholicism and over the years have visited Greek monasteries and made Greek friends. Initially I was put off by their attitude.
      They have very strong personalities but they are the most generous and loving people.

    • @Quantum1008
      @Quantum1008 3 года назад +5

      Yes. She is right to emphasize the way of life and the mystery passed on from the early church but she just doesn’t understand the Catholic Church. Their tradition includes this as well. She says it’s wrong to construct a theology based entirely on reason. The Catholic Church agrees this would be heretical. There are deep traditions of mystical prayer and contemplation. She misrepresents the Catholic Church.

    • @IC_XC_NIKA
      @IC_XC_NIKA 3 года назад +7

      I think she's just a straightforward person. I too am an Orthodox convert from protestantism and her raw honesty is so helpful for me!

    • @Quantum1008
      @Quantum1008 3 года назад +2

      @@IC_XC_NIKA except for when she uncharitably lies and misrepresents. She isn’t honest when she spreads misinformation.

    • @marieegypt7091
      @marieegypt7091 3 года назад +3

      @@IC_XC_NIKA I appreciate her honesty too. Her Biblical courses are excellent.

  • @meghalo05
    @meghalo05 3 года назад +11

    Austin your channel is great! You have to interview Father David Hanna of St. Mary’s Coptic Orthodox Church in Chicago! He’s wonderful and I think it will give your viewers a glimpse into the Oriental Orthodox Tradition specifically the Coptic Orthodox Church. Thank you!

  • @jairoquintanilla9357
    @jairoquintanilla9357 Год назад +2

    The best interview ever! I will be converted to Orthodoxy!!!

  • @christopherscheck1847
    @christopherscheck1847 3 года назад +5

    It's important to note that Phronema is an action. It IS Liturgy. The Liturgy of life. One does not sit at a row of desks in a classroom and crack open a theology book to acquire it as is pointed out in this discussion. Nor is it acquired by simply studying a set of beliefs. One lives it. It is knowledge of the heart gradually acquired through experiences such as standing on sore feet for multiple hours during Divine Liturgy, attending the All Night Vigil the night before. Clearing out the fridge and going "vegan" for the Great Fast. Prostrations during Lent. Lighting candles and praying as a family every day at your home icon corner, the Jesus Prayer, etc. In other words, through years of total immersion of every aspect of one's life into the Christian faith. This experience is then a foundation for all understanding to be built upon, and provides the mindset or "lens" to, not only understand WHAT we believe about God, but more importantly, and God willing, to our ultimate union with God through Theosis. In this way, Phronema can be seen as an important aspect of Salvation.

  • @t-bonet-bone713
    @t-bonet-bone713 Год назад

    Great questions man. I enjoy conversations that tease out the nuances of a particular subject or idea. Not only is it enlightening to the viewer, but also for the guest. When you asked about the mind set of fronima as being amorphic in the the mind of a 1st timer, the guest eyes really lit up. Almost like she has not contemplated that point of view before. Excellent job!

  • @hiltonchapman4844
    @hiltonchapman4844 3 года назад +11

    "I don't mean this to be offensive.."
    ... we're all *so* relieved!

    • @spartanastas5560
      @spartanastas5560 2 года назад +2

      Reminds me how the leftists get angry when you call a girl a girl and a boy, a boy... Can't please everyone.

  • @johnsayre2038
    @johnsayre2038 Год назад

    Probably the best Christian interviewer I've seen on YT. You know how to let ppl talk, give them space, and then jump in with a question to pull more clarification out of them. All while presumably disagreeing with much of what they say (I believe you are Protestant?). Impressive self-control and professionalism.

  • @stephenbrannen
    @stephenbrannen 2 года назад +7

    I'm Orthodox, of the Western Rite (Antiochian Archdiocese of North America), so I frequent the the broad areas of historical and liturgical and theological reality that Dr. Constantinou glosses over throughout this video. Nearly everything that she indicated is uniquely Orthodox in thought or practice simply isn't, but is also rife throughout Roman Catholic history as well (e.g. mystery, apostolic PhRoNeMa, etc), and nearly every "negative" attribute she lays solely on the Roman Catholics (e.g. legalism, scholasticism, etc) is absolutely represented in Eastern Orthodox history as well. Her historical surveys are ludicrously simplistic (e.g. Orthodoxy never had a "reformation" because they didn't have the errors that Roman Catholicism did...completely omitting all of the massively different political factors which created totally different situations in Western Europe vs. Eastern Europe / near East). These polemics, though obviously based on some real differences here and there, are extremely overblown and reductionistic. It bums me out that this simplistic, dichotomizing summary will be latched onto and believed without further investigation by so many, perpetuating and needlessly increasing a divide between Eastern and Western traditions, and that there are already so many fawning comments on this video about it.
    *Edit: But thank you, Austin, for your kind demeanor and mature hosting as always.

  • @hyweldda56
    @hyweldda56 Год назад

    Superb interview and Dr Constantinou is excellent. Very clear, very passionate and very persuasive.

  • @deanaburnham9571
    @deanaburnham9571 3 года назад +3

    Love Austin's program and hosting style. Impressive knowledge base!
    He handled his guest with ease and never lost command of the discussion. A perfect Orthodox gentleman!

  • @GopnikVlad
    @GopnikVlad Год назад +2

    As an orthodox Christian, I have often observed that Protestants are very different in their thinking about salvation. Interesting side note: in Russian, “orthodox” is православный, which can roughly be translated as “of the correct words”

  • @strugglingathome
    @strugglingathome 3 года назад +21

    Dr. Jeannie has no chill. I just got OrthoPilled.

  • @baoduong2203
    @baoduong2203 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for bringing in this speaker! I’m currently reading her book as a Catholic seminarian, who has explored Orthodoxy for five years.
    The concept of Phronema is interesting, and I can understand how we may have a different approach and understanding with theology. A criticism that I have with Dr. Constantinou, is that it can appear to sound “gnostic” to others. Like I have this secret knowledge that nobody else has. The gnostics may have made the same argument that she did. But to somewhat understand the phronema of the Orthodox, is something good to know to have better dialogues with the orthodox.

    • @princekermit0
      @princekermit0 9 месяцев назад

      how do children learn? values are more caught than taught. we have to have it modeled. we believe deeds over words, so it is critical that our words have no leaven.

  • @Yallquietendown
    @Yallquietendown 3 года назад +12

    I love Dr Jeannie ! One of the few good ones left at AFR!

  • @tarahskinner923
    @tarahskinner923 9 месяцев назад

    "HOLY" Simplicity! I Love that .... Thank you for sharing!

  • @petervandolah5322
    @petervandolah5322 2 года назад +4

    I can't wait for your Baptism ... ☦️

  • @bassguitar1919
    @bassguitar1919 2 года назад

    I already had Dr. Constantinou's book on my reading list and definitely will be getting to it soon now. So many great points about how we approach and understand theology and Scripture to be aware of. If honestly seeking truth we need to be aware of these thought tendencies that we all have. Great stuff! God bless.

  • @isaiahkerstetter3142
    @isaiahkerstetter3142 3 года назад +13

    I need better compliments that "Excellent!", "You the man!" or "You're killing it Austin!". I'm about out of new expressions of approval and delight.

  • @kristgalitsina
    @kristgalitsina 3 года назад +12

    I really enjoyed listening to the conversation and to the points that were made, however, I find her vision of Orthodoxy in comparison with Catholicism or some Protestant denominations to be a bit idealistic. As an Orthodox Christian I understand what she's talking about but at the same time I'm aware of the issues Orthodox Church like every other Christian Church has as a worldly institution (not in the sense of the Church as the Body of Christ).

    • @Athabrose
      @Athabrose 3 года назад +4

      This classical Protestant appreciates your astute comment and honesty. Thank You

    • @triscat
      @triscat 3 года назад +10

      I believe this is why monasticism in the Orthodox world is so vital. It acts as a living spring to feed us all.

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  3 года назад +8

      I always appreciate when people can humbly critique their own "side." Thanks for that!

    • @CatieD
      @CatieD 3 года назад +4

      Totally agree but on the other hand found her idealism very uplifting! "This is what we COULD be...this is what to strive for"

    • @CatieD
      @CatieD 3 года назад

      Also @Kristina i think we have the same last name! Голицына

  • @ContemplativeSoul
    @ContemplativeSoul 2 года назад +3

    This guy honestly has the patience of a saint, talking to this woman. She is so begging the question through so much of it. And it's not a knock against the Orthodox, it's just her.

  • @leoandolino4668
    @leoandolino4668 2 года назад

    Really enjoyed this speaker. She makes so much sense. For knowledgeable Protestants Biblical context has always been the crux for understanding the Scriptures. She brings up the most important element to understanding the Bible - the mindset. The right or original mindset is the starting point.

  • @vsevolodtokarev
    @vsevolodtokarev 3 года назад +3

    20:37 "it is fun to speak with people about the things they are *passionate* about"
    That's another point of disconnect between Orthodox and Western way of saying and thinking. Being driven by passion is considered a bad thing in Orthodoxy; passion (in its proper meaning) is but a chronic sin. Another, similar disconnect is being proud, as if it was something good (but at least some Roman Catholics understand that - perhaps the latter is a recent, secular phenomenon.)
    Thank you for inviting Dr. Constantinou, was very edifying.

    • @CatieD
      @CatieD 3 года назад +1

      In the US I think it's fairly clear what people mean by "passionate" in this context...austin isnt talking about passions (страсти) in the sense you are using the word...it is practically a homonym...same thing with pride

    • @vsevolodtokarev
      @vsevolodtokarev 3 года назад +1

      ​@@CatieD​Yes, thank you, that's the whole point: if a wonderful thing is a homonym of a terrible thing, something is wrong with our way of using words. In Russian, "страсть" suffers from the same kind of confusion: colloquially, it's something appealing.

    • @panoramicprism
      @panoramicprism 3 года назад

      I have a friend that is a monk that speaks English, Ukraine, and Russian. But English isn't his first language. He was recently ordained as hieromonk and I asked him if his mother was proud. He told me pride is a sin. I tried to explain that we use the word in this specific context differently and he said that it seemed to him to be proud of your son is to think that he is better than all other sons. It was a hard concept to translate to him. I gave up lol. But I also understand where he's coming from.

    • @CatieD
      @CatieD 3 года назад +1

      @@panoramicprism I lived in Russia for almost a year and realized they just think about things differently from americans... like in that situation a russian person could have said "I bet your mother is so happy/thankful" but humility is deeply ingrained so they really dont even have the same concept we do and vice versa...so interesting!

    • @panoramicprism
      @panoramicprism 3 года назад

      @@CatieD it really is. I think as a teen, I encountered this concepts in different languages phenomenon through watching anime. Watching English dubbed w/subtitles vs English voiced really opened my mind to how things vary conceptually through languages and culture. I love it! Because it means there is still sooo much we can learn and communicate to one another and it's one of the reasons I'm very excited about the internet! Even this exchange is a blessing! Thank you!

  • @philmattox8500
    @philmattox8500 3 года назад +2

    By Father Thomas Hopko on Advent and the nativity which in Orthodoxy in many times is referred to as the Winter Pascha. When we finish that we will begin Dr Constantinou's book!! I cannot miss this opportunity without further thanking you for your RUclips channel. Your method of interview which is simply to ask a few questions and then let your guests speak it's just fantastic. And I'm not talking about just your Eastern Orthodox guests. It does not matter who your guest is I learned so much more by listening to them on your channel then I think I would on any other. Besides you have such a variety of guests and variety of topics. God bless you and grant you many years!!!

  • @CatieD
    @CatieD 3 года назад +6

    @all the people saying she doesnt understand Catholicism and Protestantism...She is talking abstractly, if you look at specific individuals within each faith tradition you may see overlaps to a greater or lesser degree but she is talking about the core DIFFERENCES between each tradition in order to dispel the confusion many people have about what makes each tradition unique.

    • @Athabrose
      @Athabrose 3 года назад +1

      She’s not even getting the “core differences” right and overstating everything. You can say she’s just being abstract or whatever but I expect such an educated person to at least represent others correctly. Not every nuance but even a basic working understanding would suffice. She’s just parroting the same popular rhetoric of many orthodox. That’s all this is. Nothing new. I was hoping for something different but I hear the same things from any orthobro with a RUclips account. Not trying to argue but I mean let’s just call it what it is. I’m sure she is a great lady but this was disappointing. Lowest common denominator caricatured pop evangelicalism appears to be what she thinks Protestantism is, even tho they do not represent the majority of Protestants. Her caricatures are just over the top.

    • @CatieD
      @CatieD 3 года назад +2

      @@Athabrose I actually do agree with you but having read her book I found it extremely helpful in understanding my own tradition... personally I prefer her through the written word but I am so thankful she is doing what shes doing... and to me she is actually quite different from the "orthobros" because she has legitimate credentials...call it an appeal to authority, I call it common sense

    • @Athabrose
      @Athabrose 3 года назад +2

      @@CatieD I can appreciate that and I think her interview was more for those already orthodox. I respect her credentials and of course I would put her above the orthobros. I was just really disappointed and see no benefit from the interview unless one is already in agreement with her. It’s more just speaking to her base. I am glad she has helped orthodox Christians dig deeper into their tradition I just think it can be done without caricatures of others.

    • @CatieD
      @CatieD 3 года назад +1

      @@Athabrose definitely a good point. I think if theres one way we can grow as a church it's to know how to talk to people outside our own group, eventually being able to dialogue with those who are not even christian... in other words recovering a truly missional mindset...we've got aways to go at least in the anglosphere :)
      (but at the same time her mission of making sure the orthodox understand our own tradition is just as necessary)

    • @Athabrose
      @Athabrose 3 года назад +1

      @@CatieD your honesty and sincerity is refreshing. I appreciate both. This is the type of dialogue that is desperately needed for all of us.

  • @johnallen1311
    @johnallen1311 2 года назад +2

    "In the Roman Catholic Church the First Vatican Council re-affirmed the existence of mysteries as a doctrine of Catholic faith as follows: "If any one say that in Divine Revelation there are contained no mysteries properly so called (vera et proprie dicta mysteria), but that through reason rightly developed (per rationem rite excultam) all the dogmas of faith can be understood and demonstrated from natural principles: let him be anathema" (Sess. III, De fide et ratione, can. i)."

  • @Orthoindian
    @Orthoindian 3 года назад +17

    Presvytera is a treasure.

  • @severianmonk7394
    @severianmonk7394 2 года назад +1

    This is like a beautiful elaboration of Evagrius Ponticus explaining what prayer is as the exclusion of thoughts, concepts.

  • @daysihall8569
    @daysihall8569 3 года назад +15

    Maybe the title should be “what it means to be TRULY Christian”. Lol sorry! New Orthodox convert here 😅. Great interview. All reasons why we converted but truly what did it for us was the mystery of the church. So thankful and humbled that God led us there unexpectedly. I pray that it brings you home as well Austin.

    • @daysihall8569
      @daysihall8569 3 года назад +2

      You should try obtaining a little orthodox prayers book and read through them. It made such an amazing difference for us even before going to our first liturgy.

  • @orthodoxchristiansupply8043
    @orthodoxchristiansupply8043 5 месяцев назад

    This is very good! Thank you!

  • @NOK2014_Corfu_Activities
    @NOK2014_Corfu_Activities 2 года назад +4

    27:54 "A turn to rationalism" -> Actually this is the point of the difference . Orthodoxy is mostly an experience of the Mysteries as the Apostles did along with teachings. Rationalism was something that came in later, propably with Thomas Acinatis, and you still do it. Orthodoxy is about living in , gaining experience, a theological science with life in the Mysteries of God, especially the Monks while west became a cathedral were you should be tought theology in the school. Conseguence of that was also the abortion of Monasticism, which the spearchead of experience.

  • @brecruz4832
    @brecruz4832 Год назад +2

    many people believe the orthodox people are very arrogant to proclaim that they still retain the actual original way of Christianity. How can they not have changed over the thousands of years. It’s just hard for me to believe that they’re doing it the exact same way.

  • @stevensonrf
    @stevensonrf 3 года назад +12

    Austin, I truly love Orthodoxy, but I wish this lady would have stuck to just talking about Orthodoxy without bashing the Catholic church. I found it to be very distracting and counterproductive to the other things that she was trying to say. 🙁

    • @masterchief8179
      @masterchief8179 3 года назад

      Well, I could definitely agree with what you say. I think Austin wanted to be fair and show us not only Eastern Orthodoxs guests that converted to it (specially from Protestantism) but also a cradle Orthodox with an ethnic background. I guess we all can reason about it and what that says.

    • @JackTimothy
      @JackTimothy 3 года назад +5

      Loved her critiques on the first protestants. Dr. Jeannie is powerful.

  • @leannewheeler5351
    @leannewheeler5351 11 месяцев назад

    I appreciate her passion and insistence on the matter.

  • @eui6037
    @eui6037 2 года назад +3

    The lady has balls. She speaks her mind.