Lift Bed Toy Hauler Utility Trailer Haulina
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Several of you have asked about the lift bed in the trailer. I first found this idea on Bill Ellison's RUclips channel. He is a young man out of Canada with a lot of good ideas for trailers. I did make a few changes but the use of the adjustable aluminum E-track decking/shoring beams was very good. I purchased the 1" pipe and bearings used on 99% of garage doors from a distributor for about $25.00. Being an old electrician I use conduit for many things and when I need additional strength I add the threaded rod. The placement of the conduit to guide the straps is critical and using guides on the conduit is a good idea. The basic frame needed to be completed long before any of the finishes were installed in the trailer. Hope you enjoy and learn from my mistakes and experiences. Jim Cassidy
What a gorgeous and innovative build! Nicely done.
Thank you very much! We have enjoyed it - I’ve made some changes over the last year - I’ll try to make a video of it soon.
Great construction and well engineered! Congratulations.
Thank you very much, Darius!
That’s genius. No actuators, pistons or electrical that can fail. Super smart.
Thanks, HabitualButtonPusher - like most things - not my original idea but maybe I improved on the design - I know I’d make a few more design changes now but it has worked great for the last two years.
One of the better elevated bed designs I've seen. At least from a cost vs. easy of use and flexibility perspective.
Thanks, Michael.
Great bed lift design, very impressive. And the shower/bath and electrical controls are top notch. Using the vinyl flooring planks on walls and cabinets is spot on with design and workmanship. Really well done! You have a very nice trailer, sir! Congratulations
Thank you, Hybrid_Soul
I like these wind-up strap-lift designs versus other designs like spring coils, gas struts, or electric actuators. I believe your choice is the best one Jim.
Thanks, Snarge22. I liked the option to bring it down lower. For younger people who don’t mind a little step into the bed - the other options are good. There really are so many good ideas to research on RUclips - just need to find what works best for each of us and go for it!
Really like the lifting bed design.
Thanks, I made an extension handle that makes it much easier to crank up. Always looking for ways to improve the design. Thanks again, Jim
It looks really good at the end with all the bedding on. It will be comfortable while you're on the road. Good work!
Thanks, Dr. Tibbe!
Great trailer build.. I've used those E•track and brace bars for over 30 years and they're not going to fall down. I've stacked 2 500 pound pallets on them from the front to the rear of my 53 foot semi trailer. I've never had any come lose.
Thanks, Hoss - it is good to hear you have had a good experience with the E-track. And thanks for working it a challenging industry we all depend on for our daily needs.
Nicely done. Love seeing different ideas for elevator beds. I have done two different versions for myself.
Thanks, Live & Breathe - yea, I’m sure I’d change a few things on the bed but this one works! I like the beds with the support struts - I even purchased a couple but my wife & I are a little to old to climb up in the bed - I needed it to be much lower than anything I could muster with the struts. 🤷🏼♂️. I’m still working ways to make it better - watching RUclips video! 🤣
@@coachgym hi there I have my two on my channel if you want other ideas too. I use my benches as step for ours.
Really like that security camera system
Thanks, Bob. I will tell you, I ordered the first system on the AliExpress web site, a company I think called Vtopek - that was a 9 month disappointment and loss of $200.00. I had purchased many items from AliExpress but that one burned me - have not used since.
Now , that was awesome 👌 Thanks for sharing...plain ,simple and easy..
Thanks, Ted. It was fun to build.
Nice i am designing my own and ended up going e track as well. Added bonus is having extra evtrack mounting points below the bed for hauling items.
Thanks, k5 - yes, there are many things that can be done with the e track!
hi! great work on the trailer - she looks gorgeous!
regarding the video, it has been uploaded in 360p which is super low resolution. Bumping recording/processing/uploading all the way to 4K or at least 1080p (which is already getting 'old') would be recommended imho :)
Thanks for your advice - yes, this would help people enjoy the content & be able to see it in greater depth. I just use an older I phone to video - time to upgrade! Will I need to choose a higher quality when I upload?
COOL NICE VIDEO !
Thanks, Dominique - I hope you will view my other videos & subscribe- I’m getting closer to the 1,000 subscribers.
youtube.com/@coachgym
Nice and clean setup! Love it.
Thanks, Hindsight!
Hi Jim, I enjoyed watching your video. Well done!!! I did a very similar bed lift design to yours. Mine is in a Mercedes Sprinter van. For the lifting mechanism, instead of using a winch, I used a 24v windscreen wiper motor. Works very well... Food for thought for next version of a fit out. :)
Thanks, @peterdobrovandky8305 - I would appreciate info on your build with the windshield motor. Hopefully you have a video - yes, I’m ready to retro-fit my bed & add that! Thanks again for watching & commenting.
Happy to share the info on the motor. What's your email address, I'll email you the motor pdf specifications document, my wiring diagram and any photos I took along the way. I haven't done a video of it. Maybe I should have but I just wanted to get on the road. :)
My bed lift is similar to bren5279 (youtube channel). I borrowed some of his good ideas and added few of mine own. I think his video is fantastic.
@@peterdobrovansky8305 yes - I’ll check out that RUclips video. Please send to
Haulina2022@gmail.com
Thanks!
We have it at my Hospital,Commercial/Marine flooring ,HD for Sure!!!
I thought I’d seen it in a health care facility. Thanks for your comment.
Jim, thanks so much for the video. Would love if you could explain how you attached the wench to your bar. That is the piece that is stumping me.
- thanks for asking.
I thought long & hard on how it could be done - my system might not be the best but it worked for me.
2 minutes into this other video on the bed you get a close up of the wench & the connection of the pipe to the wench mechanism.
ruclips.net/video/LDeYOyNvUiY/видео.html
Hopefully this helps you but I will try to describe what I did. You basically drill out one side of the wench - a little larger than the outside diameter of the pipe. The pipe slips into the drilled out side of the wench & slips over the post of the wench. Drill through the pipe and the post or racket mechanism with a 3/16” bit & put a small bolt through with a nut. Sounds complicated but it really is not. The 1” pipe the straps wrap on becomes the bearing on the side of the wench you have drilled out. I have a few more pictures - I may need to post another short video on the connection & modification of the wench - let me know if that would be something you would like to see.
great video sir, thank you
Thank you, @whatsworthfightingf4!
Great system! Very helpful
Thanks MrOsoverde!
What a great set up. Just found your channel. Do you happen to have a parts list for the bed build? Time to do a little binge watching for this build. Again well done and thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks, again Living-working Outside the box. I’ve had enough questions on the bed build I’m going to do more videos on it. I’ll work on the “list” too. The shoring beams are an important & expensive item.
US Cargo Control 85” -96” (7 ft-8 ft) E Track Load Bar - Adjustable Aluminum E Track Shoring Beam/Decking Beam with Patented Flat Latch for Trailers, Trucks, and Semi-Trucks - 2 Pack a.co/9CvhUMh
The E track can be purchased in many places and if you want more height adjustments you can get the E track in vertical configuration. The other odd or unique purchase is the overhead door bar & bearings that the straps fasten too. I listed that for another person - I’ll try to find that info. That bed was not cheap to build - then I had to purchase the mattress!
Well done. 👍
Thanks, Patrick There are a lot of ideas on Ed’s for these toy haulers and this one worked best for me.
I like the temp gun handie.
EV's slsx - I am not understanding about the "temp gun handle".
I’m going to save this one. I’ve got a build idea for a toy hauler for two motorcycles. Is it possible to sleep in the bed while the bikes are underneath? You have some great ideas. What size was this trailer?
Thanks, Mark - 16’ X 7’ X 7’ with a 32” V nose. Ordering with the longer tongue is important if you want to install the condensing unit up front. You can’t sleep in the bed with the bike under it. I think you would need to have an 8’ tall trailer to do that. The 7’ that I have is 6” taller than a typical build - if I were to do another I might go with a 7’ 6” but going larger in any dimension has it’s issues. Thanks for checking out my build.
Good job!
Thanks, Chul- I keep finding things I’d like to improve but I’m also trying to hold off and just get in a few trips to decide what I really do need to do. 🤷🏼♂️
Wow that is so cool I can see there's a lot of wisdom there great idea I wish you were my neighbor so I could pick your brain
Thanks, Arturo I’m an older guy who has been in & around the construction world for many years - I finished my 4 year electrical apprenticeship in 1979 - so I do have a lot experience and have made a lot of mistakes! This camper build was a new thing for me but I could use many of my skills. Still, not a great carpenter so I don’t have any drawers in the build. Thanks again for your nice comment.
Love this idea. This is the second time I have seen a “lift” bed done this way. I have my bed installed very similar in mine using unistrut I just need to figure out the lift system now. Any way you could list the individual garage door parts in the comments? That way I know just what to ask for? And as for the boat crank, is that just one from harbor freight?
Love the videos so far. Keep up the great work!!
You are right - it is the inexpensive boat wench from Harbor Freight - I’ll either use a motor or a better quality boat wench. That 1” pipe & bearings really is what 90% of garage doors use - the two big springs for the garage door are anchored on that same pipe. I dug Thru my recipes- it is called a 1” I.D Bearing - purchased 2 @ 3.45 each and the pipe is called a 9’ 9” Torsion Tube (9 foot door) - it was $29.95. So - I was wrong on the cost - those 3 items cost $39.89 total - sorry, I thought it was cheaper. No wonder I’ve got 30.0k in this build! I purchased it from Able Direct International Door, LLC in Richardson, TX 972.792.8800. Hope this helps.
Does back ramp need to be open to raise and lower bed? Or can it be done all from the inside. thanks
Rexster2022 - the bed can be raised & lowered with the door shut. Thanks for asking
Could you show or describe how you connected the boat winch to the 1 inch pipe? Most of the ones I have looked at do not have a place to attach to.
John - thanks for asking.
I thought long & hard on how it could be done - my system might not be the best but it worked for me.
2 minutes into this other video on the bed you get a close up of the wench & the connection of the pipe to the wench mechanism.
ruclips.net/video/LDeYOyNvUiY/видео.html
Hopefully this helps you but I will try to describe what I did. You basically drill out one side of the wench - a little larger than the outside diameter of the pipe. The pipe slips into the drilled out side of the wench & slips over the post of the wench. Drill through the pipe and the post or racket mechanism with a 3/16” bit & put a small bolt through with a nut. Sounds complicated but it really is not. The 1” pipe the straps wrap on becomes the bearing on the side of the wench you have drilled out. I have a few more pictures - I may need to post another short video on the connection & modification of the wench - let me know if that would be something you would like to see.
Nice trailer, what’s the dimensions of the trailer and how much it cost?
Thanks! It is a 7’ wide X 16’ long with a V nose. I’ve got just under 30.0k in the build W/ trailer.
how tall are you? im curious for my build if i can stand up under it at 5'11. thank you for sharing your amazing build you put a lot of love and work into it!
Thanks, Music - I’m 5’ 10” and with the mattress I have on the bed - I stoop down a little with the 7’ tall trailer. I’m getting ready to upload a video that includes the bed being lowered - you will get a good view of the room with the bed up and me walking under it. At 5’ 11” you will need a narrower mattress or a taller trailer if you want to comfortably walk under it. I personally would probably opt for a 7’ 6” trailer next time if the price was not way out of line. Not sure there will be a next time - still doing improvements on this one 🤷🏼♂️.
Have any links to the components used? Part of your video has no sound.
Douglaskalous9287 - thanks for checking out my video - I do have several others and a few address additional issues with the lift bed. I don’t have links - I’m not great on this RUclips technology - if you have a specific part you want me to address - I will try do do that. I have answered some folks on particular items in past conversations. Thanks again for looking.
Great job on the bed, overall and the camera work! What facing did u use on the cabinets? Is it the same as that u used on the walls? Subbed in appreciation. :) 🇨🇦
Thanks John,
Yes - here is the info on the walls & cabinet fronts. Reasonable price but I scratched it in a few places when I was installing.
Paneling finish
Oak 48-in x 96-in Embossed White Oak Wall Panel www.lowes.com/pd/Oak-47-75-in-x-7-98-ft-Embossed-White-Oak-Wall-Panel/1000937538
I used ideas from several guys in Canada. I think the manufactured and self built in Canada are often better quality than here in the states. Probably because many are used in colder climates. Thanks again for checking out my RUclips site.
@@coachgym thank you so much for the response from The Great White North. :) 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
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How did you attach the winch to the end of the pipe ?
- thanks for asking.
I thought long & hard on how it could be done - my system might not be the best but it worked for me.
2 minutes into this other video on the bed you get a close up of the wench & the connection of the pipe to the wench mechanism.
ruclips.net/video/LDeYOyNvUiY/видео.html
Hopefully this helps you but I will try to describe what I did. You basically drill out one side of the wench - a little larger than the outside diameter of the pipe. The pipe slips into the drilled out side of the wench & slips over the post of the wench. Drill through the pipe and the post or racket mechanism with a 3/16” bit & put a small bolt through with a nut. Sounds complicated but it really is not. The 1” pipe the straps wrap on becomes the bearing on the side of the wench you have drilled out. I have a few more pictures - I may need to post another short video on the connection & modification of the wench - let me know if that would be something you would like to see.
Very nice! A lot of other systems seem more complicated than they need to be. I hear what sounds like a spring loaded latch on the cross beam extensions (with the bolt) that hook into the side wall track. Is that right? How do you keep the bedframe from sliding left to right on that piece?
Thanks, Elane- yes, you are right. When I cut the Adjustable Heavy-Duty Aluminum E-Track Decking/Shoring Beam | Cargo Load Lock Bars I installed a rubber strap that draws the locking mechanism into the shoring beam. The shoring beam needed to be cut 3” narrower than the width of the trailer and the beam does slide sometimes to one side or the other but it is easy to grab the beam and pull it to center and unsnap the locking mechanism that clips into the e track. Once the clips are in place with the bed up or down - it is not going anywhere. I thought I’d put a supplemental device on it but it is not needed.
@@coachgym - great, thanks for the reply. Definitely a configuration that I think I can build over some of the others. The way it locks definitely adds some security. Can you describe or have any pics of how you mounted the straps to the ceiling? That seems to be a critical point.
@@elanegraves1811 yes, those steel strap holders are fastened with the largest self tapping screw I could get in them. If you look closely at about 11 minutes into the video you will see the strap holder. I think this will help you. I will tell you that I’m thankful there are 4 of them - one on each strap because I do think they take a good load with the mattress on the platform. If they ever pull out - I’ll need to rework a good portion of the ceiling. Take a look at about the 11 minute mark and see if it is pretty clear.
It is good but no functional, if you release the back bed lock first, you have 2 option jump over the matress or go out and around(do not expect Raining) to release the front lock. Also too noise when driving.
Thanks for taking a look - yea, not perfect- I’m always open to ideas on a better way.
Hi how much did you trim off the load bars to fit the width of you trailer? And did you have a hard time getting the sliders back in?
Hello Inosuke - I cut about 8” off each one. When you do your build - you must get a good measurement of the interior- wall to wall space with the e track on the wall - I then took an additional 3” off the beam. You must drill out a “keeper” that holds one of the slides in place and replace it with a carriage bolt when you put the slide mechanism back in place - it slides effortlessly in the channel. As I explain in one of my videos - the slide mechanisms work better if you “fish” a rubber strap in the beam to help snap it back to center when you unclip it from the e track - when the bed is in the upper or lower position. One of the important issues is to give yourself room and cut the channel short enough to give you room to work with the “catch” or “lock” for the e track. I cut it 3” short but probably could have gone 4”. You need the space to work the “catch” system. The square channel you are cutting is all aluminum- pretty easy to cut with a hack saw - I have a porta-band saw that makes it easier- I used it a lot on this project. Hope this helps - please “like & subscribe” - I’m getting closer to the 1,000 subscribers I need to have a little income from these videos.
How you connect the winch to the pipe
Yordan - thanks for asking.
I thought long & hard on how it could be done - my system might not be the best but it worked for me.
2 minutes into this other video on the bed you get a close up of the wench & the connection of the pipe to the wench mechanism.
ruclips.net/video/LDeYOyNvUiY/видео.html
Hopefully this helps you but I will try to describe what I did. You basically drill out one side of the wench - a little larger than the outside diameter of the pipe. The pipe slips into the drilled out side of the wench & slips over the post of the wench. Drill through the pipe and the post or racket mechanism with a 3/16” bit & put a small bolt through with a nut. Sounds complicated but it really is not. The 1” pipe the straps wrap on becomes the bearing on the side of the wench you have drilled out. I have a few more pictures - I may need to post another short video on the connection & modification of the wench - let me know if that would be something you would like to see.
What is the white tower to the right of the door beside the bathroom? Do those drawers tilt out? I love the bed action.
Thanks, Leslie- I purchased those form IKEA. They are called “trones”. They are $40.00 for two - each “stack” is a set of two - so the cost is $80.00 for each stack. They do tilt out & have stayed in place going down the road. Typically used for shoe storage but we use them for towels, and many other items.
@@coachgym they are very good looking and also functional tx.
Excellent job Jim! I'm planning to make one for my trailer. I've seen a couple like this but you showed the details I was missing. Is that a solid pipe? You mentioned something about 1" conduit... I really appreciate you posting your build. Trailer looks awesome!
MrBowNaxe - thanks for your nice comment. Yes, the conduit is 1” EMT pipe for all the bracing on the bed. The pipe and pillow bearings are garage door type and purchased from a garage door company - bearings & 1” pipe was about $40.00 - I put in another comment the exact thing I purchased but I’m having a tough time finding that original response. The garage door 1” pipe is much different than the EMT - and works with the two bearings. I got that idea from Bill Ellison in the RUclips video below
ruclips.net/video/RobGYJGZr_I/видео.html
@@coachgym Exactly, I've watched his video too and I think between the two I'll be able to build what I've envisioned in my caveman brain. Thanks again
Here - I found the info on the garage door supplies:
That 1" pipe & bearings
really is what 90% of garage
doors use - the two big springs
for the garage door are
anchored on that same pipe. I
dug Thru my recipes- it is called
a 1" I.D Bearing - purchased 2
@3.45 each and the pipe is
called a 9' 9" Torsion Tube (9
foot door) - it was $29.95. So
I was wrong on the cost - those
3 items cost $39.89 total
sorry, I thought it was cheaper.
No wonder I've got 30.0k in this
build! I purchased it from
Able
Direct International Door, LLC in
Richardson, TX 972.792.8800.
Did anyone else lose sound during the construction section of the video?
Dear Wonderfully - crumbs, I’ll check it out - I hope it is not happening all the time. Thanks for watching.
Great build Jim. Curious are you located in Texas? I would love to come see the bed in person it's the exact set up I want in my trailer.
Thanks, Rob. Yes, I’m in the DFW area. I’d need to meet you at a public place first & visit to make sure we are both “comfortable” with each other.
@@coachgym of course. I live in Rockwall
Yea, your only 20 minutes from me. Now, how do we communicate without the entire world knowing too much about us?
@@coachgym sent you an email. I saw your inquiry through BBB
Mr Jim how is the winch mounted to frame and pipe? Do you have any pictures of that?
Yes, Michael - check out the bed video at about 11 minutes - this gives you a pretty good look at what I have done to hold the straps in place up high. I purchased the steel strap holders for my motorcycle boxes to allow me to hold loads in place on the bike. They worked out great for the 4 straps that allow the bed to raise and lower. I did end up with a boat wench on the bed. I will probably upgrade the wench to a more expensive hand wench but the one on it is from Harbor Freight.
studio.ruclips.net/user/videobrCxXxlBJW0/edit
Crumbs Michael - I did not answer that very well. I wonder how I can take pictures & send them - I suppose I need to do another video. It is kinda complicated- and pictures & a video would help. I know I filmed it - let me look in my files & I will put together an update on improvements I’ve done - I’ll put a closer look at the wench attachment too.
Is it 16feet?
Yes, Fast - 7’ wide X 16’ long X 7’ tall w/ additional 32” V nose on front. I have the longer tongue. Total length is just shy of 23 foot with the longer tongue & V nose.
@@coachgym nice,, i have big tex car hauler, and im looking on building a toy hauler
Hello, how did you connect the winch to the shaft? Thank you
Martin - I tried to show in pictures the best I could but it was a modification on one side of the wench. I used a hole saw - I think 1 1/4” and extended the 1” pipe that the straps connect to thru the beam and thru the 1 1/4” hole on the side of the wench. The shaft of the wench fit into the 1” pipe the straps roll up on to lift or lower the bed. With the pipe over the shaft of the wench - I drilled a 1/4” hole thru the pipe & the shaft on the wench. I installed a bolt and fiber nut on it. The bolt is the connection for the shaft & 1” pipe.
Martin - I found some additional video I shot of the wench - I’ll post a separate video on it. Have a Merry Christmas!
How much you think one of these trailer cough the weirdest
I’m sorry Roberto - I do not understand.
@@coachgym He was asking "How much would this travel trailer cost with everything you added in?"
Thanks, Pearl - hopefully he will find this answer:
I’ve got about 20.0k in the build. I went big on the solar - over 4.0k. Building the lithium battery from 16 cells cost just under 2.0 but purchasing 4 -12v lithium batteries could have easily been twice that and I’ve got nearly twice the power. It was not cheap but I have what I wanted. The trailer cost me $6,000.00 two years ago. That same trailer is now about $10,000.00. So all in I’m a little over 30.0k
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