@@sporkinstien6571 Even in Black Isle / Obsidian they would've done this, don't pretend any differently. The Enclave is supposed to be enigmatic and unapproachable, they don't just let any old retarded mutant in. Didn't you play the classic games? You would know that if you were as big of a fan as you proclaim.
@@sporkinstien6571Tbh, James (your Father in FO3) basically tried to assassinate the Head Leader of the more humanitarian Enclave and thus also killed himself, Autumm probably thinks because of that Incident your unfit to join because... I dunno... you might stab him in the Back alongside be determined to destroy the whole Enclave from the inside because he killed your Father. So all in all, blame James for basically painting a big Target for the Enclave on the Line Wanderer.
@@sporkinstien6571Well to be fair it’s not like you could really join the Enclave in Fallout 2 either. Kinda a shame though you can’t really join in this game too, but hey at least you can blow the citadel.
@@MrHolodoc Yea... The Lone Wanderer's Father is horrible. 1. leaving his kid in the vault, which cause his kid to almost die to Vault Security. 2. endangering the whole vault by leaving. 3. Could have just surrendered, and prevented one of his assistants deaths. 4. got stuck in an random vault in the middle of no where, and had to get busted out by the Lone Wanderer, if not. Well he will just be stuck forever, while the Enclave stays in control of Project purity or just massacres' the Super Mutants inside and take it for themselves. Also don't put that lame excuse of "Blame James" Lol, no. Bethesda is lazy, and can't handle an non good vs evil narrative after whatever change they went through once after Morrowind. They made Elder Scrolls Daggerfall and Morrowind, they proven to make great story's that don't use Good vs Evil as a lazy writing tool. Oh wait, the people who made the goats of Bethesda games left. Like I don't get why they even have the option of giving the code if it's gonna end up with you dead. Straight up lazy writing. Not only that the only way you can side with Enclave are ones made by MODDERS. (Unless you want to larp as an Enclave Member in Fallout 76.) Here's some Wins for Bethesda modders. Who carried Skyrim and Fallout 4? Who patched most bugs in Bethesda games since the first Elder Scrolls? Who are the people that are the reason that made Fallout 4 and Skyrim where it is today? Seriously all of these questions, can only be answered with one type of group can answer this. The people who make mods for Bethesda games. Don't forgot about New Vegas, I don't need to explain why people tolerate Fallout 3, at least Fallout 3 walked so New Vegas could crawl. Another point, no explaining how New Vegas endlessly makes Bethesda's writing look lazy and bad in comparison, well... for the Fallout show? We don't talk about it, I just pretend that doesn't exist along with 76 and that thing.... www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/68009 God at this point I might as well make my own Alternate Universe of Fallout, because of what Bethesda is doing to Fallout has an franchise. Fallout should have died when Black isle and Interplay went under, at least it would have an death, but no. We get the reality of it being milked and tortured. (Edit: For fuck's sake, I don't care if I went off topic, I'm not gonna pretend anymore that I'm okay as fan of Classic Fallout, what Bethesda is doing, I hate Fallout and what it has become saddens me. It's up to us Fans to pick up the pieces and make our own Alternate Universes like what I'm doing with Fallout: New World Blues.)
Oh so when I die to help the Brotherhood start tge purifier I get an entire ending slideshow and the game ends, but when I die to help the enclave start the purifier its just kills me and reloads my last save.
Yeah, he's not a good guy. He wouldn't have poisoned the water, but he did want to be the only one capable of consolidating it's potential resources for his own ends.
Strongest 10MM in existence
Only thing I could think was "huh, it's realistic"
@@iaial0 that one shitty little gun when you use it vs. when the main villain use it
I like how the soldier sounded like he was shocked they'd actually gotten the code
F in the chat for the unknown enclave soldier, who died from radiation in the code chamber
Ahh the illusions of choice. A staple of Bethesda
i did this cause i really wanted to join the enclave, and then i found out you couldn't and i was really annoyed lol.
Welcome to bethesdas fallout lol
@@sporkinstien6571 Even in Black Isle / Obsidian they would've done this, don't pretend any differently. The Enclave is supposed to be enigmatic and unapproachable, they don't just let any old retarded mutant in. Didn't you play the classic games?
You would know that if you were as big of a fan as you proclaim.
@@sporkinstien6571Tbh, James (your Father in FO3) basically tried to assassinate the Head Leader of the more humanitarian Enclave and thus also killed himself, Autumm probably thinks because of that Incident your unfit to join because... I dunno... you might stab him in the Back alongside be determined to destroy the whole Enclave from the inside because he killed your Father.
So all in all, blame James for basically painting a big Target for the Enclave on the Line Wanderer.
@@sporkinstien6571Well to be fair it’s not like you could really join the Enclave in Fallout 2 either. Kinda a shame though you can’t really join in this game too, but hey at least you can blow the citadel.
@@MrHolodoc Yea... The Lone Wanderer's Father is horrible.
1. leaving his kid in the vault, which cause his kid to almost die to Vault Security.
2. endangering the whole vault by leaving.
3. Could have just surrendered, and prevented one of his assistants deaths.
4. got stuck in an random vault in the middle of no where, and had to get busted out by the Lone Wanderer, if not. Well he will just be stuck forever, while the Enclave stays in control of Project purity or just massacres' the Super Mutants inside and take it for themselves.
Also don't put that lame excuse of "Blame James" Lol, no. Bethesda is lazy, and can't handle an non good vs evil narrative after whatever change they went through once after Morrowind. They made Elder Scrolls Daggerfall and Morrowind, they proven to make great story's that don't use Good vs Evil as a lazy writing tool. Oh wait, the people who made the goats of Bethesda games left.
Like I don't get why they even have the option of giving the code if it's gonna end up with you dead. Straight up lazy writing.
Not only that the only way you can side with Enclave are ones made by MODDERS. (Unless you want to larp as an Enclave Member in Fallout 76.)
Here's some Wins for Bethesda modders.
Who carried Skyrim and Fallout 4?
Who patched most bugs in Bethesda games since the first Elder Scrolls?
Who are the people that are the reason that made Fallout 4 and Skyrim where it is today?
Seriously all of these questions, can only be answered with one type of group can answer this.
The people who make mods for Bethesda games.
Don't forgot about New Vegas, I don't need to explain why people tolerate Fallout 3, at least Fallout 3 walked so New Vegas could crawl.
Another point, no explaining how New Vegas endlessly makes Bethesda's writing look lazy and bad in comparison, well... for the Fallout show? We don't talk about it, I just pretend that doesn't exist along with 76 and that thing.... www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/68009
God at this point I might as well make my own Alternate Universe of Fallout, because of what Bethesda is doing to Fallout has an franchise.
Fallout should have died when Black isle and Interplay went under, at least it would have an death, but no. We get the reality of it being milked and tortured.
(Edit: For fuck's sake, I don't care if I went off topic, I'm not gonna pretend anymore that I'm okay as fan of Classic Fallout, what Bethesda is doing, I hate Fallout and what it has become saddens me. It's up to us Fans to pick up the pieces and make our own Alternate Universes like what I'm doing with Fallout: New World Blues.)
Oh so when I die to help the Brotherhood start tge purifier I get an entire ending slideshow and the game ends, but when I die to help the enclave start the purifier its just kills me and reloads my last save.
I got this on accident because i didn't know what to do next and forgot 216 is the right choice
Good to know, but remember, if that's the only thing they want from you, then you won't have a long life if you give them what they want.
I really wish they would make a fallout game where you can play as a raider or enclave
They did, it was called Nuka-World.
find a mod for it. you can kill Preston in first 20 minutes for good
What a sweetheart.
Yeah, he's not a good guy. He wouldn't have poisoned the water, but he did want to be the only one capable of consolidating it's potential resources for his own ends.
Yeah, it's definitely not great, but I'd say it's at least a step-up from Eden's whole plan
@@welkingunther5417 oh, really?
@@HK-pq7pe Well Eden's was to just kill everyone so I'd say it is
So basically he’s nestle in human form
Damn.
Nice mustache.
@@Introbulus Thanks lol
Found that out the hard way
Fool, now the game is gonna restart