My Godox Flash Photography Kit Dropped 10 Pounds
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2021
- In this video I go over how my Godox flash photography kit dropped 10 pounds by switching to more lightweight strobes and support equipment. My previous location lighting kit was : 3 Godox AD200's, 2 Bowens S2 brackets, 2 Cheetahstand C10's, 1 Cheetahstand C8, 3x H200R round heads, AK-R1 grids and gel holders, 1 fresnel head, 1 barebulb, 1 maggrip, 1 magsnoot, 1 magbeam and magmasks, rogue round gels.
My new location lighting kit is
1x AD300 Pro (xplor 300 Pro) : adorama.rfvk.net/JnRna
AD-S85 Softbox : adorama.rfvk.net/V59jk
2x AD100 Pro (xplor 100 Pro) : adorama.rfvk.net/bR4z9
1 Westcott 10' Pro Stand : adorama.rfvk.net/AooAGo
(lightest 10' wide footprint stand I could find from a reputable brand)
1 Nissin LS-65C carbon fiber nano stand : amzn.to/3eKKuWF
1 Phottix Padat 198 carbon fiber nano stand : amzn.to/38It74X
AK-R1 accessories and gels
Bag : Strobius 110 Standard strobiusshop.com/product/stro...
Also : I did not switch away from the Cheetahstands because I don't like them. They are great. But, I don't need the utility of quickly moving the stand between tight locations anymore, as I'm working in more spacious environments (aka not weddings). I still think Cheetahstands are the best drop stand on the market and I will continue to use them if I am shooting a wedding.
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I love this type of content, the real world Professional's prospective helps out people like us who can't mentor in these socially distanced times. Thank you for keeping us inspired and our spirits up!
Very helpful. To the point. Clear. Concise. Makes me want to redo my setup.
Thanks for this vid, Rob. Making me rethink my lighting kit, especially the stands.
As a beginner in the realm of lighting, this is super helpful
Great insights Rob, thanks for sharing
This is incredibly helpful! Thanks for posting this!
This a great portable lighting kit, thanks for the tips good sir 😎🌱
Wow I like the setup and thank for breaking things down.
Thank you, that’s really useful! I’m currently looking at streamlining my kit and this certainly seems ideal.
Brilliant idea. Wish I watched this earlier. I have the same problem of carrying extra pieces and have to assemble everything before I shoot. I'm taking your idea of mounting the AD300 with Godox S65 attached and also all mounted to the light stand, all I do is unfold. Again, brilliant idea!
Thanks for doing this I am totally switching this setup
I *just* received my Strobius 110 the other day and love it! Loaded for on location corporate headshots I’m weighing in at 28 lbs!!
Very helpful! 👍👍
I have been mulling over a decision to purchase two ad200 pros, round heads, s brackets, etc... and then I see this. I am very into minimalism and I am tired of my tt600s/aa batteries for my portraits, and they are a pain to setup/gel for my toy photography. I think I have a bit more research to do today. Thanks for this relevant video!
Thank you so much for this!
Great video!
Nice!! Knowing you can put lights that are on stands, with modifiers mounted! in that bag has me re-thinking my lighting kit... 🤔
I know right! It makes a much sense!
very cool. thanks
Honestly, if adorama offered this or something just like is as a kit, I would buy in a heartbeat (through your link!). I don’t own the 300 or 100s yet and would love this configuration.
I've been waiting for this one! This video and all of the links are a huge help and resource! Quick question though, what kind of stands are those?! Wink wink
Glad you tried the Nissin stands. Been using them since they came out with the first 50c. I use the 65c at 8.85 ft and 1.8lbs, capacity 6.6lbs with my ad400 or ad300 with godox mount modifiers. Set my camera bag on the leg. And the legs splay out huge
I looked at the Phottix carbon Padat at 1.3lbs at 6.5ft and 3.3lb capacity. Great stand but it was heavier then the Nissin 50c at 1.2lbs with 3.3lb capacity and 7ft height. The 50c has a adjustable leg but it needs a rubber washer as even cranked super tight it can shift. If you move to the new Nissin 55c at 6.5ft and 3.3lb capacity you get a adjustable leg to balance it on uneven ground also and it's 1.4lbs. And the adjustable leg doesn't need the addition of a rubber washer to keep it from collapsing.
Intrested to see how the ad100 works out for you. I'm still on the fence. I like more power. So I'm using 2 ad300's right now and a ad400. Which ups my weight too. For the smaller power I use one of the V1's for a kicker.
It's just insane the possibilities we have now with all the different flash offerings.
One thing you might want to look at. Setting up a boom for one of the lights. I used a Rode Microphone carbon boom and mounted it on a Nissin 65c. I can go over the top for a hairlight now. Which is pretty cool and light weight since it's all carbon. When I do that I use a ad200 pro on the extension so only the head is over the top aiming down. And hang the Ad200pro from the other side for the counter balance.
Changed this as I thought you were using the Phottix Passat Carbon 200. Which is a great flat folding stand too. But 2lbs. The flat folding is awesome. But with the 3 stands I wanted more height and I got it with less weight.
And as always, I love the Strobius stuff. Their bags are awesome. The booms they have are worth a try too. I used them till I rigged up the carbon boom. I had tried to hook up a complete stand and modifier in one of their bags but it wouldn't fit. Now with the Godox mount I'm sure it will in multiple of their bags.
Shoot! I never even seen the 50c. 2cm taller and 25g heavier. Splitting hairs for sure, but still impressive because the padat was the lightest I found at that height.
@@robhallphoto
Phottix had a nice flat folding carbon stand first. The 200c at 2 lbs. Then Nissin came out with the 50c at 1.2lbs with adjustable leg that always had problems slipping unless you put a rubber o ring in the tightening mechanism. Then Phottix came out with the lighter stand you have at 1.3lbs. Then China started selling a copy of the Nissin 50c. Then Nissin came out with the 55c and 65c. I absolutely love the 65c. Height at over 8 ft. Super wide base legs. And 1.8lbs. It's awesome.
Only issue is none of these are anywhere near cheap. Lol
I have near all those reflectors, you can buy a barn door kit with a gel holder that fits onto the reflector, that would eliminate the slight light spill on that dummies head plus it takes coloured tells. The dedicated background reflector with the gel clips, I have 2 of these made by Bowen’s, however I have a 3rd reflector made by a company called Interfit. That problem you had with the reflector not lining up correctly can be sorted out with the Interfit background reflector, because it can turn on the mount, plus it has a silver anodised finish on the inside as a posed to Matt white. The quality I is not a patch on the Bowen’s background reflector but it’s a 1/3 of the price, and address 2 of the minor faults you pointed out.
Just a week or two ago, I purchased a Besnfoto Carbon Fibre stand from Ali Express a little lighter than the Padat but about the same height. It makes such a difference well worth the £56
I have 3 of those too. Nice stands.
Thanks for the great videos as always! I have a quick question for you. I rarely use flash but like having the option. For this reason size/weight is a larger factor than brightness/performance as it stays in my bag more often that not. Current set up is an Ad 200 with an S2 bracket in a 34 inch bowens mount softbox. From what I have seen in your vids the small diameter of the S85 softbox when collapsed looks appealing. Do you know of any adapters that would allow the Ad 100 to be used with it?
What c stands and wheel bases do you have? Also what stand is that for your laptop with wheels! In your new studio video! Love the new spot and watching you grow bub! You’ve helped out tremendously with my Godox and softbox purchases! Saved me a lot of time and money! I’m here for your journey!
Thanks for sharing, Rob. I want a similar setup. I currently have an AD400 and a V1. Prior to this, I had an additional AD400 and 2x AD200. I want to get a couple AD100s, but only when they're discounted, and I want to "downgrade" my AD400 to the AD300, but again, only if it makes financial sense.
The Ad100’s are on sale at Adorama now.
HI! I currently have the ad 600 and 300, The 300 is the one I use 90% of the time for portraits on the go. I am about to make a purchase of smaller lights to have more versatility. How would you say the V1 would work with say a Magmod dome to function as my trigger and occasional "bounce flash" during a wedding dance, along with either a 100 or 200 for directional light? Should I get 2x200's, 2x100's or 2xV1's (or any combination to pair along with my 300)
I shoot mainly weddings, portraits, and headshots.
Nice one bag setup! My wife needs to update her OCF setup, and she hates change. I keep telling her to sell her overpriced Nikon flashes (she has 4) and get a couple AD200s or AD100s along with a couple of Godox on camera flashes. She already uses the X2 triggers, so it's not like there's a learning curve.
I totally understand where she’s coming from in not wanting to change, but I recently switched over to the X2T with AD200 + V1 (wish I got an AD100 instead but not much I can do about it now). What blew me away is how intuitive the switch feels and how much better my work and flexibility is for making that change. Hope you can convince her!
I have to use one of those all terrain rolling carts for all of my gear. :D
(I haul two Ad-600s and the Ad-200 dual head and heavier duty stands with two 28x39 boxes and a 60 inch softie, so I’d say for all of that plus a three-lens bag, I’m doing pretty good. )
That’ll definitely keep you strong.
I’m gonna cave and do one of those rolling carts this summer when we start battling the sun again. FJH photo has one that is long enough to lay a stand flat in.
@@robhallphoto FJH is awesome. Mines not quite that big, but I keep my all my lights in the zipper box made for the 600 so transport is still pretty tidy. I just throw the stands and softboxes on top. The only one that’s a problem is my 13’ stand but I don’t want anything heavier than that for a big box outdoors.
I was excited to find your sharing of a mobile set up... I needed it. I purchased all of the equipment and to my despair, the bag has been discontinued. Do you have another suggestion please?
Thanks for the awesome video Brother. I have a question about your soft box kit using the Wescott 10 foot pro stand. On location in order the battle of the wind do you have to use weights of any kind thanks
Great video. What make and model is that softbox?
is there a similar umbrella type softbox that I can use with my Bowens fit lights? thanx
Hello I was wondering if u can do a photoshoot using the gear in ur video, Thank u
How have you combatted the native brackets on the ad300 tilting over time with the softbox attached? Or is that new softbox not heavy enough to pull it down?
He has another video about replacing the grommet wtth a rubber one. It's not that bad until you try to put a 48' box on a tiny light.
Thanks for sharing. I have a very similar kit. Love the carbon fiber stands. I might switch to the Padat (2). I still prefer 2 AD200 Pro vs the AD100. I can share the batteries with the AD300 Pro. I use the AD200's with the Round Head and the AD300 as Key light.
Look at the Nissin stands.
And great point about the same battery.
@@mverick160 thank you for the suggestion. I am trying a cheaper alternativa from Bensfoto. Same design characteristics at half the price.
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I have those too. Bought 3 of them to try for small kicker lights in the scene. They work well well. Only difference is no adjustable leg. And no options for a heavier or taller light from Bensfoto. The Nissin 65c goes to 8.5ft and can hold 6.6lbs - 3kg. I usually only put speedlights on the Bensfoto or Nissin 50c or 55c. Or a extension head on a ad200 with a modifier. For a ad400pro or a larger modifier and extension on the ad400pro I use the Nissin 65c's.
Haven't used the ad100pro's yet. I'm still using the V1's for small light stuff. But I'm sure I'll end up with 1 or 2 ad100's sometime. Just tough for me. I usually use anything that small for a kicker light and I can mount one of the 3 V1's on it's foot stand with a gel very easily and point it somewhere. No stand needed.
Now, I just want additional Godox mount modifiers. One larger would be great. And 2 strip box sizes.
Toss in they all work with my 4 LED ML60's for night shoots and it works out great.
@@mverick160 awesome. The 2 Bensfoto arrived today. They are perfect for rim or hair lights as I intended with AD200's with their round heads + barndoors or other modifiers to add gels or a snoot. So far I think they will do the job just fine. I'm not planning to put anything header or go near their max height of 7 feet which will cause instability. Thanks for your suggestions.
Great tip on the 200's batteries working on the AD300 Pro. This is a good selling point for me to consider.
Can I ask why the westcott pro 10 over the cheetah? Is it to fit in bag?
@roberthall- what is the gear bag? my “biggest” concern is being able to get it all in a single bag
is there any tips to fix if ad100 have tints? magenta/green cast?
the ad300 have adequate color but I hear the ad100 sucks....
What would be a typical shoot that you would take this kit on? Maybe a video of it? Any limitations or extra's that you need that you didn't anticipate? I just bought a huge, coffin sized bag and its ridiculous!!!
Great video, super informative. Thank you. One question - don't you find the fact the the white balance of the AD100 Pro is different to the other Godox lights to be a problem? And why did Godox take the decision to make the AD10 Pro with a different white balance? For this reason, I prefer to use the Godox V1s rather than the AD100 Pros as my second lights when using the AD300 Pro as my main light.
Well, it’s the tint that is different, not the white balance.
Yes I did find it to be problematic once I applied the kit to headshots with a white background.
That didn’t linger though, after noticing the problem I resolved it with gels, which I installed in between the lenses so I didn’t have to constantly attach it (I made a video on this).
Why did Godox do it? Poor quality control. I’m assuming they tested the bulb, identified the tint, and tried to correct via tinting the lens. I assume they did all this on paper and proceeded with an order, and didn’t identify that it wasn’t accurate until after production models were shipping. (The funny thing is, as I describe in my video on the topic, had they just used the same lenses as the V1 they would have had no issues).
Anyways they resolved it later in the production line.
I am learning to shoot dogs on location wanting to use white and black backgrounds and looking for the correct, easiest, lightest mobile setup for lighting (I use a7riv). I have the Godox X Pro( s) Trigger. Are these lights compatible? and I really appreciate your videos, thank you.
Small strobe batteries. How long do they last? Need use high ISO?
Hi Rob, currently lugging around an AD400 and 4 AD200's in my go-kit (includes work in a shared studio in addition to location work) in one Hockey bag, with all lights in their original cases - looking for a better solution as I would love to break it all down to be more efficient - when you were using your 200's, did you take all your bare-bulbs with you, or do you know of any nifty little storage pouch/case to store them in? Cheers
When I was all 200s, I was all H200Rs since those have been available, because they were so easy to gel and a nice quality that was close to barebulb but so much better than fresnel. But I would carry 1 barebulb and 1 fresnel head around in case I needed least specularity possible (barebulb) or functionality with magmod (fresnel). I never stored them in anything but a side pocket, nor did I protect the bulb. The bag I use does have dividers so I made a section just for the extra heads. I just set my bag down relatively gently and otherwise there’s no contact made with it.
@@robhallphoto Thanks Rob, good to know the bulbs are more robust than I give them credit for, and thanks again, that's a really good steer re the roundheads and the use case for them. Appreciated :)
Man that ad100pro is conveniently sized. I need to get one of those slimmer stands. My biggest beef right now is the size of the light stands I own.
Right! The AD100Pro is an amazing small light well suited for a hair/rim light. And with its small weight means you can get an amazingly small and light stand. I’m in the same boat regarding stands.
@@Lucy-dk5cz it hurts my head thinking about the money I’ve spent for stuff that if I’d have maybe waited or spent just a liiiiiittle more, I might have saved money and space in the long run. I gotta learn to pump the brakes a bit on stuff. My G.A.S. Is too strong 😂
what bag is that you're using to store everything?
Given the difference in power/batteries, do you find sometimes that the 100s can't keep up with the recycle time of the 300 if you're shooting fast? Or does that not really happen since they'd be at lower outputs equivalent to their capacity? (or you just don't need to shoot fast :D)
Number 2! Because the 100 Pro's are used as direct, undiffused light source (for fill, rim, hair, accent, and background lights), they are almost always at lower power outputs than the 300 Pro. Even outdoors, sometimes I have to crank the 300 to 1/1 but the 100 will be at 1/8 or less.
Robert do you have a color correction solution for the AD300 directly mounted to the AD-S85?
flashgels.com has gels for the AD300 Pro.
Awesome video. Really rethinking how I pack my stuff now. Quick question. How did you store the bare bulb for the ad200 pro before on the side pocket? Is there a pouch or container to keep them save (ie. not break during travel?).
Any suggestions on where else I can get the strobius bag? The link you posted says it’s sold out.
And maybe you’ve already address this, but if you were using the round head for the ad 200s, is there a reason on not using the stand bracket that comes with the ad200 instead of the s2 bracket? I am currently use the s2 brackets because I often attach soft box for the ad200. But if you using a round head without a modifier, could you have used the bracket that comes with it and always have them attached to a stand just like your ad100s?
One last question.... what is your suggestion on packing things for airline travel? Do you check your light bag? Would the strobius bag be safe enough as a checked luggage? Any suggestions?
Thank you so much for always having great contents. Although you’ve cost me lots of money for buying gears, I haven’t regretted the purchases I’ve made and appreciated your insight/reviews. And always the Adorama group buys you’ve put together. Thank you for the hard work and please...keep them coming.
I keep the 200 bare bulbs on the flash with the metal protectors and throw the fresnel and round head in my bag. Haven't done any heavy traveling yet, though, so I wouldn't call it road tested.
I have never protected the AD200 bulbs in any way. They are divided in the side pouch so they don’t move much, and the pouches do not have significant padding.
I’ve never been concerned because my bag doesn’t make any contact that is outside of my control. I set it down, I put it in the car, and that’s it.
Also the stand attachment that came with the original ad200s (which 2/3 were) is horrible. The 1/4 20” connectors locking mechanism was just a bad idea. It was difficult to get the ad200 tight on it, and it was difficult to get fingers around the knob to fasten the connector to the stand attachment.
I had to keep 1 S bracket to connect softboxes to the AD200 anyways, so I always carried a backup anyways, as it could also handle a large umbrella way better than even the AD200 Pros improved stand attachment.
Oh and for travel, I’ve used this strobius bag for 3 flights. I’ve never had a problem with a light being damaged while being checked, but I definitely feel like I’m playing with fire. The only time this bag has made a light suffer was an Uber driver popped the trunk of his SUV while dropping us off . Problem was, we were on an uphill driveway and his trunk floor was slick, so my lighting bag slid right out and an ad400 in a side pouch had its bulb busted.
What's the length of your folded down keylight setup w/ flash? I have the 85cm strobius bag with several of the Nissin stands that I upgraded to after several back problems, and love it as a kit. But I've been using a 46" softlighter as my main key, your setup looks much faster.
bottom of stand to top of 300 pro is 39" or 99cm. So it wouldn't sit inside the 85.
Do you use any modifiers on the ad100s?
Just the AK-R1 modifiers, mainly grids and gels, but I've also used the dome to diffuse / spread the light more too.
Was looking for the Strobius 110 case online and looks like this is a Russian company with an English website that takes US orders (their RUclips channel is also in Russian). I sent an inquiry (in English) about restock and received no reply.
Does anyone have any information or experience ordering from them here in the US? Or maybe has inquired or received an answer about when they might be getting restocks on some of their items?
Are they still in business as far as we know?
I'm looking around for the Godox 8200 but can't find it online. Help please.
AD200
Been searching through your vids for any updates on gel attachments for the strobes. I see you have a ton for most of the Godox/Xplor lights but nothing for the AD600Pro specifically.
There’s legitimately no resources on youtube for ad600pro attachments since the bulb and other attachments that fit the 200, 300, 400, 600BM no longer fit the pro version.
Would love some stuff on that if you’re willing. Cheers.
Also 😂 Any videos on how you carry your equipment around for on location shoots? Been looking for cases for C-stand and a few lights... haven’t seen many options.
All my monolight gels (400 pro, 600 pro, 300 pro, 200 barebulb) are flashgels.com which are custom sized and cut for each bulb. And my fresnels heads and round head gels are all by Rogue.
And I’ve never put a C stand in a bag. Rarely do I take a c stand on location (it’s actually one of the worst things you can put a light on outdoors as it has such a narrow footprint), but if I do I just toss it in my car and carry it wherever it needs to go.
Both of these lightweight stands are not available, does anyone has equal or similar ones that are in stock?
3 months later and they're still not available. They look killer, so if anyone finds them, please post a link here!
How do you work around color cast of ad100
One has the glass replaced from a V1 that I broke, the other has a magenta gel permanently installed.
Curious if this setup has changed. I’m looking for a bag like this but it appears to be out of stock for a while
My setup is largely the same, with 2 changes.
1, my zipper on the Strobius bag used in this video blew out and it has never (and I’ve been told will never) had more stock. Since I didn’t really use the side compartments anymore I replaced it with a sandbagger Prism.
2) I tend to have either a 42” Parasnap or 65” umbrella in there as well, depending on my shoot, but the AD-S85 is still my primary softbox.
Is it safe to keep the light attached to the light stand in the bag?!? I always keep the lights in a separate bag
If you're rough with your bag they may suffer cosmetic issues if things are bumping into each other, but otherwise there's really no concern. I intentionally have light stands of 3 different collapsed heights so the lights are all at different levels in the bag.
Adorama has silicone covers for the ad100, ad200, & ad300. I bought them as added layer of physical protection.
Do I need to buy a mount for my xplor 300pro to that softbox your using ??
nope, it attaches directly.
Thank you mate ! 👍🏻
That is a substantial size and weight saving on your location kit. Don't you miss the addl power of the ad200?
Not at all. The 100 pro is more powerful than the ad200 with h200r because it’s a fresnel head instead of a barebulb behind diffusion. And I was primarily using the 200’s as accent lights (rim, hair light, background, kicker) ever since I got the 300 pro + ad-s85. The only time where I used the 200 as a soft key light on location was when my 300 pro’s battery died from being in a cold car for 2 nights.
As accent lights, my 300 pro is always the light at the highest power. By using the 100 pros as direct light, and using the zoom function rather than grids to tighten the beam, they are always at pretty low power outputs.
@@robhallphoto thanks so much for the thorough explanation.
@@robhallphoto Shocker on the AD100 having more power the AD200 with H200R! Makes me rethink the AD100 for sure
Hey Rob... I'd love an update of this video. Is your kit the same? I can't find the bag in stock... any suggestions?
My kit is exactly the same to this day, although I no longer use this bag. The zipper got damaged and it won't close, and it's been out of stock since making this video. I'm using a "Standbagger Prism" nowadays.
I wonder if the hassle of schlepping and setting lights up might be as big a deterrent to a lot of people using OCF as not knowing how to use OCF. This sort of thing goes a long way to addressing that.
For sure Ross.
I've talked to so many people who have bought into some flash gear and then never used it because they were instantly overwhelmed or turned off by :
a) the added weight of transport
b) the time it takes to get out of the bag and have it ready to shoot
c) complexities of mounting equipment or connection equipment.
C has been partially resolved by many brands with internal receivers that get rid of the cables, external receivers, and additional batteries. But I think a kit like this goes a long way in reducing the stress of a and b, such that its way easier to implement flash photography into your work.
Very nice bag, but apparently the company making it has nothing available. I contacted them to know if there is hope to buy one of them and they did not bother to answer yet.
Yeah I know, I bought a backup one when I saw there stock issues and now they have absolutely nothing available.
@@robhallphoto too bad because that bag is genius
For those living in the 95% of the world that uses the metric system, 10lbs=4.54kg. 33 inches = 83.8cm. 6feet=182.9cm
Also I’ve lost 2 stone since Aug 2020.
@@robhallphoto Good job. I've lost 15kg (33lbs / 2.36 stone) since October. 😁
I use mostly 6-7ft umbrellas and like shooting between F8 - F11, can this setup keep up with catalog shoots or lookbooks? I'm considering getting 2 AD1200's for shoot versatility.
Absolutely not.
@@robhallphoto can’t be more clear than that. Everyone on RUclips shooting with those lights between 2.8 and 5.6 and I’m like don’t they need to ever stop down. LOL.
How do you diffuse your fill light?
if I'm not simply using ambient for fill, then I will put a diffusion filter and / or the AK-R1 dome modifier.
It doesn’t look realistic, there no back drop stands. You use the ad 100 as what a hair light with no modifier? And to light the background with no control sounds like a lot of back bounce ….