Choosing between the Godox AD200 Pro, AD300 Pro, and AD400 Pro

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
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    In this video I offer a rare recommendation into who I think each light will be most suitable for.
    I start by making suggestions based on budget alone. With the Godox AD200 coming highly recommended to anyone with a budget of under $400. This is kind of obvious, as the AD300 Pro and AD400 Pro are too expensive.
    At a budget above $700, I still recommend AD200's / Flashpoint eVolv 200, although I recommend a kit of 2x AD200's, 1 AD-B2, 1 H200R, and 1 AK-R1 modifier kit. This gets you two AD200's, 2 fresnels heads, 2 barebulbs, and the round head compatible with bounce, snoot, grid, sphere and gels. The AD-B2 allows you to bring together two AD200's for a single, 400w light source that is actually about 1.3 stops more powerful than a single AD200 in an S-bracket, due to the reflective background.
    After the budget discussion I make suggestions on lights based on the niche of photography.
    For wedding photographers, the Godox AD200 is still king because of it's ultimate compactness, and compatibility with bowens modifiers (using Bowens S Bracket), umbrellas, magmod, and the AK-R1 kit. This gives access to lighting tools that wedding photographers can move around a space quickly.
    For solo-subject outdoor portraiture, I think the Godox AD300 Pro / Flashpoint Xplor 400 Pro is the new king. Pairing up with an AD-S65 or AD-S85 softbox and you have a portable lighting tool that will work great even outdoors in bright conditions, at short distances.
    As for the Godox AD400 Pro / Flashpoint Xplor 400 Pro, being that it's a bit less portable and lightweight, I think it's better suited to photographers who use larger light sources than are available on the proprietary Godox mount like the AD-S85. To me what sticks out is family photographers or those working with small groups outdoors.
    Please leave your comments below if you have a reason why one of these lights works best for your applications!

Комментарии • 498

  • @juliojimenez6286
    @juliojimenez6286 4 года назад +270

    Robert: AD200Pro, AD300Pro or AD400Pro
    Me:
    My Wallet: Youngnuo...
    :(

    • @AbbasBinYounas
      @AbbasBinYounas 4 года назад +6

      Yongnuo is good stuff my friend, good stuff. And so much more affordable than the already affordable Godox.
      They too have Li-Ion battery operated speedlights and the YN200 now, a light identical to the AD200. Not sure about its world capabilities though: whether it works with the YN622 series controllers or not. I hope to God it does.
      So all isn't lost for those of us with talking wallets 😜

    • @BrentODell
      @BrentODell 4 года назад +11

      lol I currently have a couple of Yongnuo speedlights and a trigger, and they're pretty decent. That said, I like the fact that Godox/Flashpoint have the same radio system from speedlights all the way up to studio strobes.

    • @gillesmatheronpro
      @gillesmatheronpro 4 года назад +15

      Up til now, Godox radio system is killing competition. Even Pocket wizard is way behind.
      When I purchased my Godox V1, I took it out of the box, charged the battery, had dinner, went to sleep... then next morning grabed my bag and went out for shooting an event. Not a single look at the manual, all settings/buttons are pretty instinctive and straightforward. The thing doesn't play tricks on you and works all the time... not a single flash missed. My pictures turned out just fine, with minimal adjustment needed.
      Then, 6 days later I had another event in an art gallery (with dirty ambiant and spot lights) : same good results.

    • @rosssayer6524
      @rosssayer6524 4 года назад +4

      Can you trigger the Godox AD 200Pro with the youngnuo 200 series triggers ??

    • @gerigeraldhi7046
      @gerigeraldhi7046 4 года назад +1

      Giveaway please

  • @fallyhag
    @fallyhag 4 года назад +247

    We have three AD200’s to do Weddings. Perfect for the price. I would like faster recycle but I would also like a Porsche. Great video. Thanks 👍

    • @gillesmatheronpro
      @gillesmatheronpro 4 года назад +22

      Warning... Porsche cars don't recycle that fast, it's fake news !
      😉

    • @royaltykidstv
      @royaltykidstv 2 года назад +3

      I saw a video and they recommend ad300 for those who need faster recycle time.

    • @izustun9851
      @izustun9851 Год назад

      I think a Toyota gr86 is well enough as well as ad200

  • @tderrenberger1
    @tderrenberger1 4 года назад +124

    I have the 600BM and 2 AD200 Pros. I can simulate pretty much any lighting scenario I need. All for less than 1 Profoto light. Not a slam, just a fact. Love the Godox ecosystem

    • @longliveclassicmusic
      @longliveclassicmusic 4 года назад +3

      I'm loving my Flashpoint strobes and am getting more soon-I have a 600 Pro and a 200 and am planning to get a 600 Pro Non-TTL as a third light next-but I will say the 300W Profoto modeling lamps are super lust-worthy for me. More and more I do wish I could afford Profoto. But the Godox line really is an incredible opportunity to build a studio photography practice without $10,000+ in Profoto gear!

    • @Indy_at_the_beach
      @Indy_at_the_beach 4 года назад +2

      The biggest advantage for me WRT Profoto is their UI. Should Godox steal that idea then Profoto will evaporate.

    • @joeyjojo9135
      @joeyjojo9135 4 года назад

      How is your system outside and for travel? I'm curious as I'm thinking of switching.

    • @d-mack8110
      @d-mack8110 4 года назад +1

      I agree Tony I have the same lights and also a V1. It's a great setup for me.

    • @SirMopy
      @SirMopy 4 года назад

      Just curious (not a profoto Fanboy but maybe starting out to get into more professional photography): what happens if you gear fails in one of your shoots with the client? That‘s my biggest fear.... I know it‘s super unlikely but that was said also to harddrives or usb sticks. They failed on me too and I lost tons of photos.. can I rent a profoto then und implement them with the Godox system? The more money you can save the better.

  • @chasingmanhattan
    @chasingmanhattan 4 года назад +29

    I have the dual AD200 head setup as well as a BLAZ300 that I purchased to haul back and forth to studio shoots in Manhattan from my home in Queens. I take the subway to all of my shoots, so size and portability were crucial. Basically, I use a three-point lighting setup with the 200s as my hair and fill lights and the 300 as my key light. In concert, these lights work great. Now that the AD300PRO is out, I am considering replacing my BLAZ for my mobile needs since it's super compact. Obviously, I can still keep the BLAZ as a backup. I also have the Flashpoint Zoom (aka Godox V1) that I can use to light up my backdrops where needed. My thinking is this: start with a pair of AD200's - they're the most versatile and they're really what you need to get started with pro lighting. Get them in a kit with the dual-AD200 kit so you have either 2 200 W/s lights or one 400 W/s light. Then get you a 300 W/s light to meet that middle ground when you need it. Then, you'll have 2 200s, 1 300 and 1 400 effectively. If you need more than that, then you're obviously making enough money from your photography to be able to jump up to a 600/1200 W/s setup. Start small, and as the money flows in, fill out your kit proportionately. And as a rule of thumb, never buy something until you've actually needed it on a shoot at least twice and had to improvise around not having it. Let the gear follow the revenue rather than the other way around.

  • @richardhopkins3214
    @richardhopkins3214 4 года назад +33

    I have two AD400pro, one AD200Pro and V1 speedlite. If I was buying again today I would probably make that three AD400Pro and a V1. I'm unmoved by the AD300Pro, appealing though it is, because the AD400Pro is just better at everything. It has serious power and fast recycling. It has a decent modelling LED which is massively advantageous in a studio situation and makes it a true all-rounder, plus it has a battery that can run both the flash and LED for a workable amount of time. Bowens mount comes in the standard kit. All of which also applies to the AD600Pro, but you've got to draw the line somewhere and IMHO that's just too big, too heavy, and more expensive. The AD300Pro is very cute, but falls behind on every aspect of performance and by the time you've added a stand and softbox (and S2 bracket?) not to mention a camera bag and tripod etc, a couple of pounds weight saved isn't going to make much difference.

    • @joeblack4026
      @joeblack4026 4 года назад +1

      true, i have the AD360 with larger batery and its a work horse as well but it has slow recycle time and no modeling led and cables. That is actually making a problem for me time to time . Im shooting mostly family sessions outside. Do to the slow 2s recycle time i have missed some pretty nice monents. :/

    • @philindeblanc
      @philindeblanc 4 года назад

      @@joeblack4026 are you using the Y adapter ? I also use these lights when I dont need the 600s or other plug inmonolights or power pack strobes. The Y adapters help, but maybe not enough. I wonder if ou can use the Y adapter with 2 different batteries and further increase recyc speed?

    • @pengingamer4510
      @pengingamer4510 4 года назад +4

      i think the ad300 is good if you need portability . You can fit two ad300 pros where you could only fit one ad400. Also i think the ad300 is a great light if you need it as an adition for the 400. Maybe keylight or so on

    • @mitas3484
      @mitas3484 2 года назад +2

      Hi, yeah I was just about to order 2 AD300Pro, mainly for rim lights and such. I often felt like my AD200Pro would tap out as the rim light is usually further from the subject, at least in most of my use cases. And I see now that even with the lower bulk, it wouldn't provide much of an upgrade. Thanks for your comment, I will get 2 more AD400Pro!

    • @trypersistence
      @trypersistence 2 года назад

      This comment helped me make my decision just now! Thanks! I've been using AD200 Pros, and need more output and fast recycle sometimes. I've been leaning to the 400 Pro because of cost/value ratio over the 600's, and perfect info! Thanks!

  • @RobertHunterPhotography
    @RobertHunterPhotography 4 года назад +44

    Thanks for sharing! Adorama should bring their Black Friday sales back during these long social distant days.

  • @GauriSharmaNEET
    @GauriSharmaNEET 3 года назад +11

    Wow your 1st minute explanation just resolved all my doubts about getting confused. I will now happily buy the AD200 pro as it fits my budget 😍
    Thank you.

  • @RickyZastrow
    @RickyZastrow 4 года назад +14

    I have 2 ad200 with the dual head. Love it but I’d say every shoot there are a few frames that the flash doesn’t fire. Never had that issue w the original 600.

  • @jacquesmarotte3645
    @jacquesmarotte3645 4 года назад +16

    Thanks Robert, as usual awesome video and I love your way to explain everyhting.
    I have 3 Godox AD-200, 1 AD-B2 and 2 speedlights V860 II so with this kit, I can deal to almost any situation. Paired with a X-Pro trigger, I can control all flashes. Love them ! I still have 3 AD-360 but use them occasionnally.

  • @siebenburguer
    @siebenburguer 4 года назад +13

    Godox AD200 PRO not only the perfect choice for wedding photographers, it's also the best choice for product and food photography, especially if you need to go to a certain location, such restaurants or stores.

    • @royaltykidstv
      @royaltykidstv 2 года назад +1

      What is the mount on flash good for?

  • @aussie2uGA
    @aussie2uGA 4 года назад +10

    I've mentioned before how I wish Godox would invent a common battery that all their lights could use, like power tools. If an AD600 needs more power than the AD300, they just allow the batteries to be stacked. Lots of solutions, see Milwaukee M12 & M18 examples, and this would keep everyone in the Godox ecosystem because they adopted that "battery system". Right now if I want to add AD1200's, there is no incentive to stay with Godox as nothing from the AD300, 400, or 600 carries over.

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  4 года назад +2

      Yeah, that idea would have had to of been established with their first product. It would be really nice but I'm just not sure how well it could work with the various sizes. I think the designs would be too compromised whereas power tools all meet at the handle.
      I also don't think Godox is trying to make lights for people to own every version (vs the idea that each power tool has s unique purpose). Instead the broaden their lineup to appeal to unique applications of various photographers.
      That being said it's a great concept for a future system if design/compactness wasn't trashed in the process.

    • @EugHor
      @EugHor 4 года назад

      The Milwaukee M12 & M18 are two different size batteries for two different sets of tools. Yes, both the M12 & M18 systems have drills, saws, etc., but they are different sized and different powered tools each pertaining to a certain task just as the AD200 vs AD400 vs AD600. Each light has a purpose and thus a battery that can provide efficient power for that purpose just like the M12 (12 volt power source) vs M18 (18 volt power source). If you make a battery large enough to power the AD600, it'll be too large to make the AD200 a convenient on the go flash and if you make a battery smaller to power the AD200 and sustain portability, you loose the power needed to recycle the AD600, hence the different battery sizes. I know it can be a pain in the butt, but each tool has it's purpose and thus it's own battery to best suit it.

  • @realthoprivate
    @realthoprivate 3 года назад +6

    The modeling light makes AD400 the choice for me for studio. I find modeling light vital for studio portraits, otherwise it takes too long time fine tuning light angles. The AD300s 12W modeling light is too dim to be useful when in a softbox. Can't see it unless the studio is dark.
    I own two AD200s - best ever portable flash and my all time favorite.

    • @DH-kx7ej
      @DH-kx7ej 3 года назад +1

      Studiowork on a budget: Godox MS 300.

  • @phillipdestruge
    @phillipdestruge 3 года назад +12

    Always informative! Thanks Rob! I personally use an AD400 & 200 for headshots. The 200 is the main light on a 38inch deep parabolic camera left or right with a v flat bounce and the 400 is on a 51inch umbrella with diffuser (soon to be 60 inch) behind me. Perfect, simple and beautiful outcomes

    • @jasminelaverick5423
      @jasminelaverick5423 2 года назад

      Hi by any chance do you think the ad200 pro would work for low light indoor portraits, headshots and full body?

    • @phillipdestruge
      @phillipdestruge 2 года назад +5

      @@jasminelaverick5423 hey. Absolutely! It’s a great starter light. As long as your doing headshots or a single person full body you’ll be good. If you want to get the most out of your one light be sure to get a reflector or a v-flat. You can find how to make them for cheap on RUclips or shoot in a small space with white walls this way you have more light bouncing around

    • @rony7758
      @rony7758 Год назад

      Love the tips. Thank you

  • @KwokKaySzeto
    @KwokKaySzeto 4 года назад +7

    Agree! AD200 is the most versatile one. I don’t use my AD600 outdoors that often. But for studio, AD600 is my favourite though.

  • @youknowwho9247
    @youknowwho9247 2 года назад +1

    Old video, but still: What's the point of having an AD200 Pro over a V1 speedlight? It's only 0.7 stops more power.

  • @markkempton4579
    @markkempton4579 3 года назад +5

    So glad I found this today. Can't decide what to buy with the crazy Flashpoint prices this weekend. I own a single 200 Pro and was going to pick up a 400 to compliment it and help with outdoor shooting of large groups (e.g. sports teams) but then I saw the 600 (non-pro) is less than $350! I know it's a lot heavier, but I don't think I'd miss the TTL and it saves money.
    Now after watching this, I may just pick up a second 200Pro and the AD-B2 and save my money.

  • @chrisdesilva4665
    @chrisdesilva4665 2 года назад +8

    I love the Ad300 Pro, I shoot outdoor night fashion photography, usually with a single subject, sometimes (rarely) 2 so one light is more than enough especially seeing I don't do soft light which requires big power and big diffusion at closer ranges.
    I also had the Ad300 Pro fall off taking the whole cstand with it smacking the concrete ground first with the softbox attached, the flash took the brunt of the hit, nothing came lose, nothing flew out and the next day it went through a 670 shot shoot with 0 issues. Looks like Godox really hit the nail on the head with this lamp.

    • @mortezakhobzi3651
      @mortezakhobzi3651 2 года назад +1

      U been ripped off, it is 1/3 of a stop better than the ad 200, the modeling lamp is too weak as well

    • @vidademikey9790
      @vidademikey9790 Год назад

      ​@@mortezakhobzi3651 k thanks for your input nobody asked for.

  • @TanvirIFAZ
    @TanvirIFAZ 4 года назад +4

    I mostly capture full body portrait outdoor. So i need to put my softbox far from the subject, that's why, i have chosen ad400pro, i have v860ii as a 2nd light for indoor.

  • @laurencetaylor1092
    @laurencetaylor1092 2 года назад +2

    My only problem is the overheating of the AD200PRO. Fine for relaxed portrait / headshot sessions. Not so great for an office shoot with a relentless stream of people coming though, or a fast moving fashion shoot.

    • @markelovett
      @markelovett Год назад

      What did you decide to use for location business portraits?

  • @Saeeem99
    @Saeeem99 2 года назад +1

    How about ad400pro and ad200? Should i buy both? Is it good combination?

  • @jaschana2220
    @jaschana2220 4 года назад +6

    Thanks for this amazing video!!! This was the confirmation I needed.. 2 x ad200 + adb2 will be a better purchase than an ad300pro.

  • @adrianveal8856
    @adrianveal8856 4 года назад +6

    My godox ad 300 just came in! I love the output it produces!!

  • @emmanuelarredondo5365
    @emmanuelarredondo5365 4 года назад +6

    You don’t mess around with photography/culture mess. You give the info as a real person and what people really wanna know. Thank you.

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  4 года назад +1

      That's the goal, love when it's noticed!

  • @guidomenendez7807
    @guidomenendez7807 4 года назад +8

    I always appreciate you’ve concise and knowledgeable breakdown of light as well as uses of them. Thank you. I am a wedding, outdoor modeling photographer in sunny Miami and although a AD 600 would be best to make quick work before my clients melt and sweat reflection shows I had to settle for a AD 200 and a 860 but I don’t regret it. I think more that lights a wide angle lens where I’m much closer to the subject thus having my light closer is the trick to not spending more money right now since I like having more of the scene and don’t do photoshop yet (I know 😞). I’m struggling to get the output lowered for venues on the aD200 but that’s probably my inability to get that remote to work correctly. Thanks for any input.

  • @jackarentphotography9822
    @jackarentphotography9822 3 года назад +1

    it's now called the G-League, and I'm a proud G-League NBA photographer :)

  • @wilteduk007
    @wilteduk007 4 года назад +3

    If power is your main worry, I'd highly recommend the original AD600. Plenty of power and priced just above the AD300Pro. It can take an extension head and all the weight goes to the bottom of the light stand. For portability it's not the greatest compared to any of the others.

  • @nilofido411
    @nilofido411 2 года назад +2

    My favourite is the original AD600MB, is the cheapest Power vs Price option, it suits me as I never use TTL, the AD200 my second, so versatile that it’s irreplaceable.

  • @michele-annehamilton4010
    @michele-annehamilton4010 4 года назад +4

    Saw this video and ordered 2 AD200 pros - this is my stuck at home covid kit, so I wanted the most compact options for doing product & still life shots in a tight space. I also need to do some high speed to add water splashes. Didn't realize until after getting these that there is no modeling lamp when using bare bulb flash. Any quick solutions for this would be great - wondering if there is a quick mount modeling lamp that can be easily attached. Additionally can the AD200 pro achieve freezing shots, I haven't tried as yet.
    I'm wanting to add an additional light but not sure if I should stick with the ad200 or go for the V1 or maybe even the AD300pro.

    • @kevinfalby4482
      @kevinfalby4482 4 года назад +1

      Get the ad-b2 bracket as it provides a modelling light for the ad200. You will also reap the benefit of combining your two ad200s into one powerful outdoor strobe if you need the bump in power.

    • @michele-annehamilton4010
      @michele-annehamilton4010 4 года назад +1

      Kevin Falby Tanks for your reply - I got two ad-b2 mounts after I made this comment as well as a third ad200 pro.

  • @africanhistory
    @africanhistory 3 года назад +2

    Pure truth, everything he said is the truth. Even before the AD200 I would buy an additional 600 Godox and get the same job done as getting a bigger one. But with all kinds of flex. And as he said your milage varies depending on what you are doing AD200 pro is the end of the line for all my outdoor needs.

  • @iKeto_gal
    @iKeto_gal 3 года назад +2

    So you can control two/three ad200 with one trigger? sorry for my noob question

  • @jishnuwarrier1960
    @jishnuwarrier1960 4 года назад +4

    Hi Rob, I would highly appreciate if you could help me clear out my confusion which I’m struggling a lot with from some time now. I’m more of a hobbyist rather than a professional by which i mean I don’t earn from my photography but thoroughly professional in the way i wish to conduct though. Cutting the chase, currently my budget is around 500-700$ max. I own a Sony alpha 73 and a godox speedlite. Im crazy about portraiture and i wish to do it a lot, but also all of its types from baby shoots to pre and post wedding outdoors. Owing to this im confused if i should buy a sk400 kit of 2 400ws ac powered kit or 2 AD200 and the kit you mentioned or take a risk and push my skills to cover up a missing light with AD300/400 pro. Im sorry for the big story, but all these points are what confuses me to make a decision. Thanks in advance.

    • @somrajgupta7603
      @somrajgupta7603 4 года назад +1

      Quite a good question. Nowhere on Internet this comparison is done. My guess is just because SK or QS series are AC powered but Pro series are battery powered. I think people are much less confused than us 😂😅😜

    • @alooposto23
      @alooposto23 4 года назад

      If you shoot a lot in studio , go for sk2 else ad200 or ad400

  • @christianavalos7096
    @christianavalos7096 3 года назад +2

    so would you recommend two ad200 pro's for product photography and maybe some outdoor portraits during sunset/golden hour?

  • @nexuses1
    @nexuses1 4 года назад +3

    Got two ad200 pro's and they amazing. And got 3 ad400 pro's (1 as a spar) and that's all I need for portraits. Got the 400 for the constant lights, but I have to agree with you on the extra weight. Just yesterday my umbrella and ad400 took a dive because of some wind. I should have bought the H400b with me, so the battery can hold down the stand and it is less top heavy. Buying the ad300 doesn't make any sense to me, because the ad400 is so versatile.

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing what works best for you

  • @ivansmiljkovic88
    @ivansmiljkovic88 2 года назад +1

    I just sold my AD200 because I god bargin deal for AD600 Pro and I want to use it because mostly I need more flash power to make more room between soft box and model to capture full body shot outdoor. With AD200 in mid day was mostly imposible. So, Im thinking... maybe AD400pro is enough with benefit of weight reduction and Godox mount flexibility (QR difusors are so time saving for shooting on location) and keeping some money in pockets :D

  • @mverick160
    @mverick160 4 года назад +2

    For me and why I like Godox.
    860ii or v1. Kicker lights for highlights or emphasizing something in the scene.
    Ad200 can light in medium sun outside, night outside or fill outside.
    Ad300. The tiny mount godox modifiers for travel.
    Ad400. Hss at a decent power outside
    Ad600. Larger modifiers outside daylight. Inside huge fill.
    Ad1200 hss to make daylight look night. Ringflash option with hss, yet to be released. Action stopping.
    AR400 ringflash. Larger flash head can be used alone for fill. Limited hss shots though.
    The #1 reason for Godox. You can intermingle all of them and still adjust everything at camera. With more battery power then I need for 1 shoot. Usually 2 shoots with power to spare.

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  4 года назад +2

      It's going to be crazy to see just how many lights are on this X series when they (if ever) move onto something different. It's already insane.

  • @the3xplorer
    @the3xplorer 2 года назад +1

    I’ve been using 2 x Godox 860II-S for the longest time. Been looking into AD200 PROs for sometime. Haven’t taken the leap because I’m debating if I should pick up couple AD400s instead…..these are some hard choices lol.

  • @slglasius
    @slglasius 3 года назад +1

    "I put the info in description, if you need it don't have to watch the video" Was enough for me to subscribe to your channel

  • @longliveclassicmusic
    @longliveclassicmusic 4 года назад +1

    I don't know who needs to hear this, but Adorama has a kit with a c stand ($130 value), a 38" Glow ParaPop ($220 usually), and a 600 Pro non-TTL (usually $720…and I mean the actual 600 Pro, not the 600BM etc…they came out with an actual 600 Pro non-TTL version) for only - $825.85. That's right. Less than $850. So. If you need something like a Parapop and a C stand eventually, you can get a 600 Pro with them for $475 for the light if that's the way you slice it. That's likely my next purchase. Cancelled my 300 Pro pre-order because I got mad that Adorama said it would ship 4/16, and then 4/16 came and went, they took the date off the listing, and a week later it had STILL not gone out even though all these influencers already had it since before 4/16. Glad I cancelled the order. Extremely glad.

  • @johnyoung1606
    @johnyoung1606 10 месяцев назад

    DUDE :) I Mean Dear Sir.... I knew everything You said !!!! BUT I needed to be reminded ...... THANKYOU My Friend !!!!!!! (saved me a s*** Load of money :) :) :) (sometimes I get GAS..... Stupid ME)

  • @duponddupont
    @duponddupont 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for the clarification, I am looking for a portable solution, I am shooting horses, could be in barn, outdoor, in the forest, etc, so the strobe cannot be 2-3 feet from the subject, will the AD300 or AD400 be good at 6 to 10 feet away also the modeling light will it be enough for a proper focus at night.

  • @Indy_at_the_beach
    @Indy_at_the_beach 4 года назад +1

    The AD200 is great value. 200Ws is all one really needs. However, the AD200 has some design "features" that drive me crazy. First, the screw on mount for the flash ALWAYS wants to unscrew leaving you with a flash pointing at the edge of the umbrella or the side of the softbox. Second, the power switch is a giant pain to use and is consistent with the general failure of the UI. The screen is hard to read in almost any light because the type is small. The trigger system is pretty good with my main gripe of only 5 groups. I use upwards of 8 flashes for interior photography and cannot get all 8 on individual control. Lastly, the rectangular form is good for packing but loses that advantage when you have to use the bare bulb accessory to make full use of modifiers.
    For me the AD300 comes closest to being perfect but the screen and controls still fall short of what they could be. Also, why does every Chinese flash supplier offer gels in stupid primary colors? It is the exact opposite of the needs of someone needing to match tungsten yet precisely zero companies offer CC gels but rather red, green and blue gels for some clown hipster images that are enjoying a current hour of favor on the blogs.

  • @fdjphotographyfrederickjam6046
    @fdjphotographyfrederickjam6046 4 года назад +1

    Hey Robert what about Godox AD300 Pro VS Godox AD360II just wondering if my 360 should be put to rest? LoL, No one ever mentions the 360 anymore. Thanks

  • @LisaOsta
    @LisaOsta 4 года назад +2

    I just got the AD300 pro (Evolv 300) to go with my Evolv 200 pro I will probably get another 200 pro once I sell some older equipment. Thanks for the info.

  • @sambiswas1265
    @sambiswas1265 4 года назад +1

    '2 light is better than one' is very important msg that you should have said it earlier, I could have taken calculative decision. I stuck with 1 ad400. After the covid lockdown I will have to spend another bucks for ad200.

  • @terraferme2590
    @terraferme2590 Год назад

    Hi. I am about to buy my new lights for a dance photography studio. I have the dilema of what lights to get. Since I also want to be able to use it for outdoor portraits and weddings but dance photos(freezing the motion on dresses and jump is now priority). I am considering a setup of 4 lights. ( 1 Top light, 2 rim lights and 1 main light) so here is the question: what models will suit better for my setup? Without breaking my wallet. For example (2xad400 + 2xad200) or (3 ad200+1ad400) or just (3xad200)????
    Any ideas please

  • @6gwilliams
    @6gwilliams 4 года назад +3

    I am a pro of over 40+ years in the business. I bought the AD300Pro for $399 USD from Strobepro in Canada, free shipping to me in the USA. This is the price point I believe the AD300Pro should be at, not $499 USD. I think Godox will lose many potential customers at that $499 price, sorry. I bet the price comes down by December. I shoot every subject and have (three) AD200Pros with all the heads, ; (two) AD400Pros, (one) AD600Pro, and (one) older AD600, along with (two) V1s. I am fully covered for whatever situation I cover. The AD300Pro fits great alongside my camera gear in my Think Tank Roller for location work and traveling as carry-on on planes. Keep up the great work Rob, we truly appreciate it. Boy so many are totally bagging the AD300Pro for its weak LED light and using your testing as ammo. I know that is not what you planned, to diss the entire strobe over its led light. Cheers

    • @СергейМогутов-ъ4д
      @СергейМогутов-ъ4д 4 года назад +2

      Strong modelling light is a must for some photographers. The Ad300PRO modelling light is 2 stops dimmer than AD400PRO. Based on it's luminance ratings I'd say that it is an equivalent to 7.5 W COB led. And that is pathetic. I was actually pretty disappointed. Not a dealbraker though.

  • @Acconda
    @Acconda Год назад

    I may need more than one, however I am trying to find an alternative to the Profit B10x, which has 250WS also a constant LED which is bi-colour. I am not sure Godox covers that ? I would like the best option for product photography + video including freezing water + general photography, portraits indoors and outdoors. any ideas peeps ?

  • @daisynaidu896
    @daisynaidu896 4 года назад +1

    hi, i wanted your opinion on the AD200 heating issues if any?. I have the V860, two of them and they both are giving me the same issues of overheating and after about 35 flashes, they dont go off thus giving me a black shot , this keeps increasing as i shoot along with the recharge time thus making it impossible to shoot after about 45 shots. i watched your video on the v860 issues and tried everything in there, changing to non rechargeable batteries in my trigger to changing channels and the id, trying new batteries, but nothing worked. i still dont know what the issue is, guessing its due to over heating as the flash is mildly warm to the touch after 40 flashes. this is the best guess. so im considering buying the AD200 , and as u suggested 2 of them is better than one. but i want to know if there are similar issues as its an entry level flash, will i face similar issues? what have you experienced? any advice..

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  4 года назад +1

      If you're at full power / high output TTL, you're simply asking too much out of a speedlight to quickly shoot 40 shots in quick succession.
      If you're experiencing that at lower than full power, something is wrong with your flash and it should be exchanged by the retailer.
      I have never hit the thermal restriction of the AD200 in real world shooting. But I also never have on the V860II either.

  • @wanneske1969
    @wanneske1969 3 года назад +1

    I want to sell my AD400 as it is too heavy to carry around outdoors. The AD200 is good enough for outdoors

  • @jeffrey3205
    @jeffrey3205 4 года назад +1

    For me I have 2 600s and 1 200. I'd like to have 2 200s in my bag or 1 200 and a 300 in my bag when doing small shoots and no assistant. For my weddings since I live in the carribean where it's reallllly hot😉 the 2 600s are my work horses.

  • @joycewatercolor4083
    @joycewatercolor4083 2 года назад

    the difference in France right now between the AD200 pro and AD300 pro is around 150$ , would you still choose AD200pro if it cost 400$?

  • @tanner.quintero
    @tanner.quintero Год назад

    Hi there, with wuld you recommend me for Outdoor, Social Event (Groups of people) in low light like NIGHT

  • @justesmond
    @justesmond 3 года назад +1

    Wow. Outstanding video. You're an encyclopedia on this stuff.

  • @Bassplayingboy
    @Bassplayingboy 3 года назад +1

    We can count on Robert Hull to be highly technical. He must come from an engineering background like me. On thing to point out- the larger flashes have quick recycling time because they are using less percentages of power on a bigger battery

  • @curtiswrigley
    @curtiswrigley 4 года назад +2

    Very well done. Knowledgeable, practical advice. I have 3 AD200s and one AD600BM. I almost never use the AD600, the 2 AD200 in the ADB2 plus the 3rd for hair light is enough for most occasions. I only bust out the AD600 if its a large group on a bright day.

  • @marijanazorkic3753
    @marijanazorkic3753 Год назад

    I bought the ad 200 pro today. When I turn it on it constantly makes a clicking sound. Does anyone have the same problem?

  • @rafaelunplugged
    @rafaelunplugged Год назад

    Do the AD200 have a suitable model light though? for say a photo booth?

  • @user-cz7wp4jz6n
    @user-cz7wp4jz6n 3 месяца назад

    Thank you. It would be great to talk about indoor studio, art portrait... I suppose the ad400 is the best, but perhaps also the ad300 with the bowen adapter ?

  • @TheFerrari308
    @TheFerrari308 Год назад

    HELLO, I PERSONALLY DO NOT NEED POWER OR TTL OR HSS IN MY FLASHES, I DO BOUDOIR PHOTOGRAPHY, WHAT I NEED IS A NUMBER OF FLASHES WITH ACCESSORIES, WITH 3 MS300 AND 7 MS200 I GIVE ME MORE THAN ENOUGH

  • @thejaebeing
    @thejaebeing 4 года назад +3

    You read my mind... I was hoping someone made a video like this. Thanks for knowing your market so well.

  • @IvanDoherty1
    @IvanDoherty1 4 года назад +3

    Sound sensible advice from a professional.

  • @ebowden53
    @ebowden53 4 года назад +2

    Great video as always. I bought the extension head for the ad400 and in a bag it acts as a weight on my light stand. Fyi, I did the same for my ad200's and the slinger bags for those. Moves that weight down.

  • @docochannel3928
    @docochannel3928 2 года назад

    Can I equip the studio with ad200 and ad300 will the color temperature be the same?

  • @Agent-Smartass
    @Agent-Smartass 3 года назад +2

    Such a good, condensed and knowledgeable review. Thanks!

  • @cedricwebb5576
    @cedricwebb5576 3 года назад +1

    Robert, Robert, Robert!!!!!!. I love your videos sir 😂. Man, this video has answered every question I have regarding the Godox-Flashpoint line of flash. I have an AD200 pro and was considering a second portable flash. You really summed it up for me. I was considering a second AD200 however I though the AD400 would be the best choice..I love everything about the 200 and now have the confidence to purchase a second one..Thanks for the info bruh. God bless.

    • @fahadalluhaibi
      @fahadalluhaibi 3 года назад

      Although my english is very weak and i did not get the main point from the video but your comment solved my problem i think i understood that 200 is perfect for mid users 😬

  • @JHJohnson
    @JHJohnson 4 года назад +1

    I have 2 of the AD200 pro, best purchases for 2020

  • @KmalSadek
    @KmalSadek 3 года назад

    Could you make a comparison between Godox AD300 pro vs. Elinchrom elc 125 ttl?
    Which one is better?

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  3 года назад

      I have no plans to review any elinchrom products.

  • @visualsbysanga5523
    @visualsbysanga5523 2 года назад

    Hi
    Mr.Hall, do you know of any s-type bracket that can take two AD200…(like the s2 bracket)

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  2 года назад

      No. It can't work because 2 AD200's or 2 speedlights can't fit inside a Bowens mount.

  • @malaybasu961
    @malaybasu961 4 года назад +1

    What's the possibility of using the modeling lamp as video light? Which one of these can compete with B10 as a one in all light?

  • @LMoProVisualComm
    @LMoProVisualComm 4 года назад +1

    There it is, I purchased (2) AD200pro's and then added a V860ii for my hotshoe on my D850 if needed

  • @lokeshmahendrakar4948
    @lokeshmahendrakar4948 4 года назад +1

    Hi thanks! For all the useful information you provide . I recently took my AD200 and newly purchased 860 II leaving the trigger home but I could not trigger ad200 wirelessly .. both were on the same channel 1 .. 860ll M ttl on the camera , AD200 ch1 , grp A ttl and also tried manual too .. appreciate your help in advance!

  • @sumairahqayyum9173
    @sumairahqayyum9173 4 года назад +3

    Watched the first 3 minutes and I knew what to buy, thank you! 😊

  • @rus19297
    @rus19297 2 года назад

    Anyone else cringing at the one piece of foam behind him out of place? Just me? Ok.

  • @Nakedeyephoto
    @Nakedeyephoto Год назад

    Is it true you can put the batery of the 200 inside the 300?? if is that true, why buy the 300 one extra batery if is a bit more expensive?

  • @nelxonmiranda
    @nelxonmiranda 2 года назад

    Why are you talking about 8200 pro and nothing about what you listed on the title?

  • @sprodemt5
    @sprodemt5 3 года назад +1

    No comment on the continuous modeling lamp? That seems to be the biggest difference and the only thing that makes me look at ad300 instead of ad200. How good/bright is it? Will use it only indoors for video, some ambiance and indoor portrait

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  3 года назад

      None of the LED modeling lamps on any of the Godox strobes are suitable for video. Bad color temp, bad CRI, and not bright. I've said it through many videos, even the 40w LED on the 600 pro isn't enough for any serious video application, so these 5, 7, 10w LEDs definitely aren't either.

  • @11omri
    @11omri 4 года назад +1

    Hey Robert, I would like hear your opinion on my situation.
    I'm an adventure photographer, usually going outdoor (shooting climbers, bicycle etc), but also do some outdoor portrait.
    The idea of buying 2 ad200 sounds good but I'm also need to freeze motion and have the flash far from the subject. What would you do in my situation?

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  4 года назад +1

      Freezing subjects in bright, outdoor environments requires big power, and more if using far away. From my test a fresnel head on AD200 at full power will get you like 12 feet of distance...but that would be too long of a flash duration for freezing motion. I hate to say it, cause the thought of carrying it in rough terrain sounds grueling, but you probably need something beefier to get the frozen action you seek. At least for bicycle work, which will move quickly across the frame and expose any long flash durations. I'm an (extremely amateur) climber myself and even a dyno is not that fast of a motion, so it might not be as necessary to go beyond an AD200's fresnel for that.
      Distance + Daylight are the two primary enemies of a fast flash duration. If you were only considering Godox I have to think the 600 Pro / 1200 Pro are the main options for you. But, you may want to explore Broncolor Siros lineup as well.

  • @ViciousXUSMC
    @ViciousXUSMC Год назад

    Really good video, thank you so much.

  • @boujeetv256
    @boujeetv256 2 года назад

    The knowledge in this comment section is outstanding

  • @GermanViking
    @GermanViking 4 года назад +1

    Hi Mr. Robert, I was wondering if you know if the BD-10 barndoor kit and all those new announced accessories for godox mount will be available soon on Adorama? I'm very interested in trying those 🤯

  • @rp8973
    @rp8973 3 года назад +1

    Brother, been watching a lot of your videos, thank you so much...

  • @edflanagan8885
    @edflanagan8885 4 года назад +1

    Thank you, I go to you as the real flash expert. I have moved to Leica, and I want to shoot high speed sync, which the Leica M 240 is capable of, but I am not sure what flash trigger I should get, to shoot my Godox 200s and 600 to fire high sync, can you help me?

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  4 года назад

      I don't know a thing about Leica's hot shoe connectivity, but I know there's no Leica Godox trigger. It would require a dedicated trigger that connects to all the pins of the Leica shoe. So unless Leica uses another brands system, I don't think it's possible.

  • @Levy.AlecPhotography
    @Levy.AlecPhotography Год назад

    I do portrait photos on various locations whitout assistant, which one do you recommend?

  • @CarleAldrete
    @CarleAldrete Год назад +1

    Super helpful. Would love to see a video of how two of the 200’s can be used in supporting roles, such as a hair light and back light to create beautiful 3 light setups.

  • @RudiZimmerer
    @RudiZimmerer 3 года назад

    The design of the Ad 200 is so bad.... You cannot mount on the camera it has no Zoom ... And without the zoom I get normal Speedlight and steal the show... But there exist a great one from Godox, you can even mount it on the camera it is even very strong and today very cheap... the Godox AD360 II It is not for everybody... I would buy the AD 200 when it would have the same design than the Ad 360. Why such long and thin body ... It is the worst design ever made... We want a compact small strong Flashlight that fits also on the camera. And the Godox AD360 is a little bit heavy, 960g on the camera and 660g the external battery pack, cable... it looks like a big speedlight

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  3 года назад

      I think you’re in the minority with your opinion because the ad200 is way more popular than the ad360. Most people don’t care about use on camera, that’s what they use speedlights for. The 360 is so excessive in size as a speedlight and nobody wants to be wired to a power pack, especially on camera.

  • @TheGuyJose
    @TheGuyJose 2 года назад

    Can a AD200Pro Capture full body photos?

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  2 года назад +1

      there is no flash that can't capture full body photos.

  • @AkHiLb87
    @AkHiLb87 4 года назад +6

    Hey Robert, I looked at selling the Ad200pro, since I've also got the Ad400pro, although your video has really made me change my mind and perhaps hang onto it a little longer... since it offers versitality with as a fill light too. I mainly photograph high fashion products, beauty and families... so versatility is what I require. Unfortunately, during Covid-19, not many photographers are being booked. So thought I'd sell it. But, prices are going crazy for lighting equipment now as most global currencies take a bash. Anyways, thanks so much for sharing! It was definitely a helpful video.

  • @markelovett
    @markelovett Год назад

    Which one is preferred for shooting groups indoors, like company executives, through a large diffused umbrella or other modifier? Or even for using two lights and two umbrellas with diffusers?

  • @MariaFrendo
    @MariaFrendo Месяц назад

    Getting ready to do a wedding and I am looking for lighting for the reception

  • @samrjuliea
    @samrjuliea 2 года назад +1

    I took my SK300 strobes to my last wedding and the 2 300 watt strobes almost could light the whole dance floor. Quite nice for a cheep set of lights that I purchased as my photo booth lights (way better than constant lights).
    I'm looking at 3-4 AD 400 Pro or AD 600 Pro strobes to have for outdoor use and better layout for receptions/dances.

  • @LoicPravaz
    @LoicPravaz 4 года назад +1

    Great review! You definitely sold me on purchasing 2x ad200... I will ve looking into it. If i do I'll make sure to use your link :)

  • @ashleydavis3924
    @ashleydavis3924 3 года назад +1

    Good tips, I’m using an ad400ro pared with an ad200pro with a speed light. I was looking at the 300 to replace the speed light but I feel like another 200pro will be my fill 👍🏼

  • @emmanuelowusu-prempeh2151
    @emmanuelowusu-prempeh2151 3 года назад

    Please I shoot mainly weddings and Portraits. I shoot mainly indoors and during the golden hour sunsets times . Am looking at investing in a Strobe and am kinda confused choosing between the AD200 PRO and the AD 400 PRO. Looking at my shooting needs. Please which one should I choose????

  • @rulugo86
    @rulugo86 4 года назад +1

    I am trying to get into automotive photography and I’m not sure what light to go with. Which godox would you recommend or other brand of lighting. Thank you

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  4 года назад

      I'm gonna have to say that automotive photography is kind of impossible to give a recommendation because some people do light painting with LED's or speedlights and composite, others do gargantuan scrims that probably require thousands of watt/s to pump enough light through.

  • @M4TR1X
    @M4TR1X 4 года назад

    HI! I did a lot of consideration, but I don't now yet what strobe to buy. I shoot portraits, stills but also some action photography where I need my subject well freezed.... And I like the fact to have a fast recycle time as the AD300pro/AD400pro/AD600pro. But I hate the idea only Godox mount so I don't know if too buy the 400pro or 600pro... The difference is about 150 euros between the two!

  • @mambiproductions8960
    @mambiproductions8960 4 месяца назад

    I hear round body Godox AD200 Pro replacement comming soon?

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  4 месяца назад

      Haven’t heard anything myself. Was it teased at a show or something?

  • @robbymacdonald8212
    @robbymacdonald8212 4 года назад +1

    Love the podcast dude, I went with a B10 and A1X. I found all this godox mounts and accessories just too complex and went F it. Ouch.

  • @jonnyfarmer
    @jonnyfarmer Год назад

    I am on a tight budget so for maximum power I am getting three Godox TT600 Thinklite Flashes, these three flashes combines will give slightly more power than a single Godox 200 and will be more flexible as I will have 3 points of light than one.

  • @RyanCaptureMedia
    @RyanCaptureMedia 4 года назад +2

    Thoroughly enjoyed and learned from this video. Thx for making the effort Rob! I was nearly as entertained by the comments and learned much from various users experiences. It seems like majority rely on the 2 AD200 Pros. I also get the feeling that those that have a 400 or 600 seem to break it out for group shots. My only light, which I rarely use, is the 860 Speedlight. As I would like to venture into Senior portraits, I could acquire the 300 pro, but be limited in my accessories; acquire the 400 pro, but deal with the weight; or buy 2 200’s and use them separately or in combination to create a 400. Ugh. Decisions decisions. Some people are really good at them. Others like have a tough time sifting through all the endless data and possibilities. Thx again for all your hard work with these videos!! Super random side note: your wife is a crackup. Just wondering how she would have worked-through that “D-league” portion. 😂 😆

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  4 года назад +1

      You can get frozen with indecision, one of the only negatives of having so many options. Thankfully, they are all solid picks so it's unlikely you'll have regret with any choice.
      As for the D-League portion, sometimes she's just outside my office when I'm recording and chimes in with little quips when I'm trying to make a point. She'll be back for the 1200 Pro video!

    • @marishaunicorndreamlandia7742
      @marishaunicorndreamlandia7742 2 года назад

      I m glad I am not the only one always taking ages to decide what I want / need to buy lol

  • @udaypamphilos
    @udaypamphilos 2 года назад +1

    Sir, can you help me understand what's the difference in light power between the AD200 Pro and AD300 Pro? I know that one is 200 Ws and another is 300 Ws but in terms of f/stops what is the difference we will see? How many stops of light does the AD300 Pro give compared to the AD 200 Pro

    • @robhallphoto
      @robhallphoto  2 года назад +1

      1/2 stop more.

    • @udaypamphilos
      @udaypamphilos 2 года назад

      @@robhallphoto Sir, one follow-up question. I have a old APSC Camera so would it make any difference for the no.of f/stops between AD 200 and AD 300?