@@safz15 im referring to those two fans specifically. And if u dont know, thats how fandom works, a few bad ones ruin the name of the whole fandom. So svck it up
@@safz15You have to admit, this was gonna happen to Jin. And the person wasn’t even generalising. This literally felt like a “Jin-smooching competition” for the fans. This just destroys the image of ARMIES even more.
I would be so embarrassed to sit in the same arena after doing that. Like , imagine. Everyone knows what you did and people would be side eyeing you the whole time. I could NEVER!
Have people forgotten Jeongyeon’s anxiety and how she went on hiatus for it? Jeongyeon is a performer with anxiety, she’s able to perform and attend activities because she’s part of a group. If the entire attention is focused on solely her, it could overwhelm her. Her joining a subunit of Twice with one or two other members is the closest we would ever get focal attention on her.
1. I understand what the purpose of the event was for, (like reuniting with Jin after a long time), but I predicted something uncomfortable would happen to him. I just knew someone would do something so weird. Didn’t they not think this event through? The event overall was cute and adorable. But then again, a bit creepy. EDIT/UPDATE: *Apparently* those fans are now facing sexual harassment charges.
No hate, but Jin was too innocent to think that he would hug people for three hours and weird things would not happen. And he asked for doing this for a whole month!
2. Although she apologised, it would take her very long to get a new and clean image from the public. After the whole issue with her former members and her company, the media hates her guts and her former members. I feel like her re-debuting again with new members will tarnish the groups image overall, but as time goes by, I think people will start to slowly accept her being in another group under the same company.
We already know how this works in the K-pop circle it’s always going to be one thing after the other and not one person can catch a break from the turmoil after turmoil 😒😒🥱🥱🥱😑😑😴😴🤦🏻🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
As long as the re debut is a really and I mean REALLY good song (preferably a TikTok hit) Fifty fifty will be able to keep at least 50% of the fans from Cupid era and probably attract more. Their company needs to get the best of the best(MV,music,outfits.. even the new members can’t be mediocre in any way) because netizens are ready to crucify them the moment they return. I’m honestly rooting for them cos those new members and staff(even Keena) don’t deserve to suffer because of that scandal.
1 it was predicrable, so I dont understand why are you surprised. It would be even worse be it someone from maknae line. Fans can be crazy, its a know fact.
2. It’s obvious that a small company has virtually no chance of gaining popularity at all and there is huge competition among trainees so everyone is fighting for the public’s attention. Both Attrakt and Keena have gained positive attention from the Korean public so it is logical that they will try to take advantage of this attention. I think the chance is good. It is unlikely that they will repeat the success of CUPID but even small part of it will be enough for a decent income. Also, international listeners may not be aware at all that the group has changed its lineup and will simply listen to new songs from the viral Korean girl group regardless. 5. It's a solo staning KPOP culture, nothing can be done about it. The same goes for fancam views and contract deals: the more popular you are, the more benefits you get. 7. I don't agree, you're talking about the mechanism of Western music fans. K-pop actually has a much smaller fanbase and industry size (comparing to the US), Kpop companies rely heavily on the support and activity of die hard fans (especially during first years from group's debut) who will dedicate all their time and money to streaming and buying albums/tickets/merch, as well as doing free promotions on social networks. Without this (with only casual unengaged listeners on Spotify) these kpop groups would not be able to achieve success.
999 of the armys behaved well, except that freak... she made the whole event look like this. Most of the armys were so good, they stayed in their line & were happy to see Jin... +hate those who are victim blaming Jin
I recently had a whole bunch of arguments with several people who were either saying the thing with jin wasn't a big deal and just straight up were saying that it wasn't sexual assault and that people should get over it. It was very frustrating 😤😮💨
@@aplaraujo250 yup, and it's really unfortunate that we end up having to say that in order for some people to acknowledge that fact in the first place smh
the bsides of nayeon's new album are so good! i was never really intrested in her or the group, outsides of their titles track and some bsides here and there, just wasn't for me i guess, but this released??? It gagged me! I was NOT expecting this of her, and i love it, my favorite tracks are defently Count it and Something, such beautiful vocals.
2:23 if they're lucky and dedicated they may be able to become their own lighting rod 🤷🏾♀️ who knows. Or at least gets a loyal fanbase even if they don't make hits anymore. They could get to a sustainable career level
Fifty fifty was special because of their voices. Keena was like the least biased member as she was practically non existent in the songs. I wish them luck I guess but the way everything went is just ridiculous. That company is so desperate 😂 you can't convince that they were some kind of a good company (even if they won the legal case) to get themselves in such a situation. It's managed by sketchy people with sketchy intentions.
hey isn't it shady that HYBE let Jin have a hugging event, because I can never imagine Jungkook or V have an event like this... Something tells me HYBE would NEVER let that happen!
Here we go. Jin literally asked yall not to do with about the other members. the event was his idea. He pushed for the hug event. He fought hybe to make the event happen. Stop making up stupid theories.
@@joonsdimple oh yeah? And you think if Jungkook or V fights for this hugging event, they're gonna let it happen? lol HYBE is a mastermind when it comes to promotion and marketing. You're the kind of army that believes Dynamite, Butter was released to "help people get through tough times" during pandemic. There's clearly favouritism.
7:25 OMG you sold me!!! My favorite group!! They brought me back to kpop (I left because as a Sone I missed Girls Generation and for me it wasn’t the same since they were doing their solo careers 🥲) KDA it’s such a fresh project! Might be biased but Riot never missed doing songs 🔥 I miss them tho I wish they comeback 😭 Jaira is my favorite 🥹her voice is beautiful ✨
1. Ever since BTS got big in the west armies been in shambles ISTG 2. I love how we all do not want this. Like old fifi fans not supporting this and even people who aren’t fans still just want them to change the name. Don’t juice the name and set up the new girls with hate. 3. You explained it so well. Nayeon knows she’s that girl and she knows exactly what fans want. She gave what needed to be given but also had us shocked. This is how you do nostalgia into something new. 6. CLOCK IT. They set the standard for western and kpop collabs. Another person who also did well is Nicki and Megan collab with BTS. Both songs were features but both girls gave their personality and they still live in my head rent free.
An evil producer is being supported by international fans he gaslit them and made them turn back on their company but since it’s not Hybe you guys hate the company instead. It’s so stupid and the mistreatment the international fans are talking about is something they signed in their contract and that’s dieting as if all idols don’t diet. Did you expect the company to let them go after trying to do a MHJ (you guys are hypocrites) they wanted to exit the company and go to another bigger one.
@@laetitiac9890 (i'm not excusing the givers) attrack fkng mistreated the girls, they're victims in all of this, so f off if you still believe them, they already had a past with other group, so to still velieve them is just very foolish of you That company shouldn't be allowed to keep functioning, i fear for every person that goes there for their dreams
@@Superstaarr attrack isn't a victim, they had a past with other artist doing some shady sh1t, the girls are the real victims, and i cannot believe there's still people willing to support attrack
1. Jin was thrown on the battlefield so people will stop talking about mhj vs hybe. 3. For now, all TWICE solos (MISAMO, Nayeon and Jihyo) slay. 4. I dislike Jeongyeon stans. They always complain for everything. They are toxic like the moment rumors about Momo getting the next solo dropped, they started hating on her for "not being able to hit a note" ..... 6. Agree but for me "More" is their best release. 7. It's always about "X did better than Y". 8. "Heart Burn" is good but still miss something.
Hybe didn't agree with letting Jin have the meeting. It was because he insisted that it took place. Besides, imo if Hybe wanted people to stop talking about the problem with MHJ i don't think they would have left belift lab add fuel to the fire by addressing the controversy with illit that way.
That event was more of a jin-smooching competition for the fans. I feel so bad for him, he was so uncomfortable bruh
It was just one who misbehaved, why are u generalising the sht if u dont know wht happened just 🤐 wht competition dude
@@safz15 im referring to those two fans specifically. And if u dont know, thats how fandom works, a few bad ones ruin the name of the whole fandom. So svck it up
@@safz15You have to admit, this was gonna happen to Jin. And the person wasn’t even generalising. This literally felt like a “Jin-smooching competition” for the fans. This just destroys the image of ARMIES even more.
The event itself is weird
@@songkang3xsrvx ikr? Jin and the managers etc had to have known smth like this was gonna happen
I would be so embarrassed to sit in the same arena after doing that. Like , imagine. Everyone knows what you did and people would be side eyeing you the whole time. I could NEVER!
Saaaaame. Omg 😭
Some people have zero shame
4.
Jeongyeon has an amazing voice. She would totally kill her own solo song!
But if she doesn’t want to be a soloist, we have to respect that.
I agree. Sometimes, I think fans of a member of a group want said member to become a soloist more than the actual member.
Plus Jeongyeon does SO MUCH behind the scenes and Idea's Helping at Concerts and for the Good of OT9...
I agree, and plus, I never rlly saw her as the soloist type.
Have people forgotten Jeongyeon’s anxiety and how she went on hiatus for it? Jeongyeon is a performer with anxiety, she’s able to perform and attend activities because she’s part of a group. If the entire attention is focused on solely her, it could overwhelm her. Her joining a subunit of Twice with one or two other members is the closest we would ever get focal attention on her.
1. its ARMY you're talking about... Despite having mature fans, the fandom now has major delulu ones.
ngl one day ARMY will be the death of BTS
I kinda agree with you.
it was literally 1 fan in the middle of 999 respectul ones...
Kinda amazing they haven't been the "death" of BTS yet...
@@EverRoxas why would they? every fandom has good and bad people
@@isabelpereira442still sets a bad reputation for armies.
Those fans needs to be sue jin just got back and everyone was happy but they just had to ruin it for everyone
I'm not even an army but I feel bad for jin, it must have been so uncomfortable
1.
I understand what the purpose of the event was for, (like reuniting with Jin after a long time), but I predicted something uncomfortable would happen to him. I just knew someone would do something so weird. Didn’t they not think this event through? The event overall was cute and adorable. But then again, a bit creepy.
EDIT/UPDATE: *Apparently* those fans are now facing sexual harassment charges.
True. I mean they know the lengths these fans can go to and HAVE gone to in the past, so why the free hugs?
No hate, but Jin was too innocent to think that he would hug people for three hours and weird things would not happen. And he asked for doing this for a whole month!
2.
Although she apologised, it would take her very long to get a new and clean image from the public. After the whole issue with her former members and her company, the media hates her guts and her former members. I feel like her re-debuting again with new members will tarnish the groups image overall, but as time goes by, I think people will start to slowly accept her being in another group under the same company.
The whole hugging event was a joke!! What did they expect? I'm shocked none of the fans tried to kiss him on the lips
HEAVY On 6 !!
But ngl, K/DA in general was amazing, my fave gotta be "MORE", but yeah, I loved K/DA tbh
We already know how this works in the K-pop circle it’s always going to be one thing after the other and not one person can catch a break from the turmoil after turmoil 😒😒🥱🥱🥱😑😑😴😴🤦🏻🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
When i was watching nayeon's abcd mv, it gave jenny from the block. Idk.
Jin is so sweet. Those fans are why we can't have nice things
As long as the re debut is a really and I mean REALLY good song (preferably a TikTok hit) Fifty fifty will be able to keep at least 50% of the fans from Cupid era and probably attract more.
Their company needs to get the best of the best(MV,music,outfits.. even the new members can’t be mediocre in any way) because netizens are ready to crucify them the moment they return.
I’m honestly rooting for them cos those new members and staff(even Keena) don’t deserve to suffer because of that scandal.
ABCD is a THAT song
I just hope Fifty Fifty can have a successful re-debut
1 it was predicrable, so I dont understand why are you surprised. It would be even worse be it someone from maknae line. Fans can be crazy, its a know fact.
2. It’s obvious that a small company has virtually no chance of gaining popularity at all and there is huge competition among trainees so everyone is fighting for the public’s attention. Both Attrakt and Keena have gained positive attention from the Korean public so it is logical that they will try to take advantage of this attention. I think the chance is good. It is unlikely that they will repeat the success of CUPID but even small part of it will be enough for a decent income. Also, international listeners may not be aware at all that the group has changed its lineup and will simply listen to new songs from the viral Korean girl group regardless.
5. It's a solo staning KPOP culture, nothing can be done about it. The same goes for fancam views and contract deals: the more popular you are, the more benefits you get.
7. I don't agree, you're talking about the mechanism of Western music fans. K-pop actually has a much smaller fanbase and industry size (comparing to the US), Kpop companies rely heavily on the support and activity of die hard fans (especially during first years from group's debut) who will dedicate all their time and money to streaming and buying albums/tickets/merch, as well as doing free promotions on social networks. Without this (with only casual unengaged listeners on Spotify) these kpop groups would not be able to achieve success.
999 of the armys behaved well, except that freak... she made the whole event look like this. Most of the armys were so good, they stayed in their line & were happy to see Jin...
+hate those who are victim blaming Jin
I recently had a whole bunch of arguments with several people who were either saying the thing with jin wasn't a big deal and just straight up were saying that it wasn't sexual assault and that people should get over it. It was very frustrating 😤😮💨
This kind of comments bothers me a lot. If a man tried to kiss a female idol, people would think differently. He was sexually harassed, period.
@@aplaraujo250 yup, and it's really unfortunate that we end up having to say that in order for some people to acknowledge that fact in the first place smh
@@flovonnejohnson707 You are right.
Kda popstars, more, and I'll show you are such bops!
Kda needs to comeback
the bsides of nayeon's new album are so good! i was never really intrested in her or the group, outsides of their titles track and some bsides here and there, just wasn't for me i guess, but this released??? It gagged me! I was NOT expecting this of her, and i love it, my favorite tracks are defently Count it and Something, such beautiful vocals.
I didn’t hear about the Jin fan event until now
2024 just keep getting “Better” doesn’t it :(
8. Im not a sunmi stan, and i dont know all her song but i know that sunmi doesnt even stay with just one concept or genre
2:23 if they're lucky and dedicated they may be able to become their own lighting rod 🤷🏾♀️ who knows.
Or at least gets a loyal fanbase even if they don't make hits anymore. They could get to a sustainable career level
I liked fifty fifty because of Aran and Sio's voice. They are irreplaceable
Fifty fifty was special because of their voices. Keena was like the least biased member as she was practically non existent in the songs. I wish them luck I guess but the way everything went is just ridiculous. That company is so desperate 😂 you can't convince that they were some kind of a good company (even if they won the legal case) to get themselves in such a situation. It's managed by sketchy people with sketchy intentions.
Poor jin😭😭 he just came out from military but this incident made it more worse 😢
Ppl got herpes so it's definitely assault what happened to jin
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Is it just me or is the timestamps like completely wrong with titles that are also wrong
hey isn't it shady that HYBE let Jin have a hugging event, because I can never imagine Jungkook or V have an event like this... Something tells me HYBE would NEVER let that happen!
I am pretty sure It was jin's idea and not hybe's...i think they said no but he wanted to do it🤔
Here you go wanting to blame hybe for everything
🙄
Here we go. Jin literally asked yall not to do with about the other members. the event was his idea. He pushed for the hug event. He fought hybe to make the event happen. Stop making up stupid theories.
@@joonsdimple oh yeah? And you think if Jungkook or V fights for this hugging event, they're gonna let it happen? lol HYBE is a mastermind when it comes to promotion and marketing. You're the kind of army that believes Dynamite, Butter was released to "help people get through tough times" during pandemic. There's clearly favouritism.
Imagine the disappointment of people looking for new Fifty Fifty music and their voices are not there?? Crazy
7:25 OMG you sold me!!! My favorite group!! They brought me back to kpop (I left because as a Sone I missed Girls Generation and for me it wasn’t the same since they were doing their solo careers 🥲) KDA it’s such a fresh project! Might be biased but Riot never missed doing songs 🔥 I miss them tho I wish they comeback 😭 Jaira is my favorite 🥹her voice is beautiful ✨
ATTRACT ent is truly so bad
Leave my girls alone
Name it Sixty sixty
1. i bet jin know whats coming, hope the organizer put health check mandatory haha also imagine this but with girl group, fans would be in jail
1. Ever since BTS got big in the west armies been in shambles ISTG
2. I love how we all do not want this. Like old fifi fans not supporting this and even people who aren’t fans still just want them to change the name. Don’t juice the name and set up the new girls with hate.
3. You explained it so well. Nayeon knows she’s that girl and she knows exactly what fans want. She gave what needed to be given but also had us shocked. This is how you do nostalgia into something new.
6. CLOCK IT. They set the standard for western and kpop collabs. Another person who also did well is Nicki and Megan collab with BTS. Both songs were features but both girls gave their personality and they still live in my head rent free.
8:44 which group is this?
Heejin from ARTMS: ruclips.net/video/IXMWmNYqBME/видео.htmlsi=nyUoD9KCPVRUajCx
NAYEON ABCD SOTY!!!
🙏🙏🙏
6. I agree. That’s why the butter remix with Megan is BTS’s best western collaboration to date
Thiss. Megan was still herself and still worked in this song. You could also tell how much she had fun and wanted to do it
This might be hot take but I liked Nicki Minaj's collab with BTS on Idol, her verse was so cool.
@@BELIEVER78989 it's not an hot take Nicki did amazing in idol
2. Boycott that comeback, sorry to Keena but supporting that comeback is supporting that dirty company
Isn't the giver the real villain ?
An evil producer is being supported by international fans he gaslit them and made them turn back on their company but since it’s not Hybe you guys hate the company instead. It’s so stupid and the mistreatment the international fans are talking about is something they signed in their contract and that’s dieting as if all idols don’t diet. Did you expect the company to let them go after trying to do a MHJ (you guys are hypocrites) they wanted to exit the company and go to another bigger one.
@@laetitiac9890 (i'm not excusing the givers) attrack fkng mistreated the girls, they're victims in all of this, so f off if you still believe them, they already had a past with other group, so to still velieve them is just very foolish of you
That company shouldn't be allowed to keep functioning, i fear for every person that goes there for their dreams
@@Superstaarr attrack isn't a victim, they had a past with other artist doing some shady sh1t, the girls are the real victims, and i cannot believe there's still people willing to support attrack
6 definitely not. Bts and members solo have a plenty of great collabs, txt too
I thinks everyone agrees ON ft Sia is not good 😭. BTS’ best western collabs are the BTS world ones & Butter ft Megan
What about boy with luv with Halsey
@@Rieah-y3u I like BWL too but Halsey didn’t have nearly as many lines in their other western collabs but her voice fit really well in BWL
The timestamps. 💀
It's not me... it's RUclips 😐
1. Jin was thrown on the battlefield so people will stop talking about mhj vs hybe.
3. For now, all TWICE solos (MISAMO, Nayeon and Jihyo) slay.
4. I dislike Jeongyeon stans. They always complain for everything. They are toxic like the moment rumors about Momo getting the next solo dropped, they started hating on her for "not being able to hit a note" .....
6. Agree but for me "More" is their best release.
7. It's always about "X did better than Y".
8. "Heart Burn" is good but still miss something.
Hybe didn't agree with letting Jin have the meeting. It was because he insisted that it took place. Besides, imo if Hybe wanted people to stop talking about the problem with MHJ i don't think they would have left belift lab add fuel to the fire by addressing the controversy with illit that way.
Hype refused Jin's request but jin insisted that he wanted the free huge event . So Hype was against it in the first , what are you talking about
Nayeon just copied Jungkook 3D. And tge song wasnt that good, pretty boring actually is the better word
The set may be the same, but it's not copied 💀 the songs are not similar bfr.