Cracks are appearing in Central Texas pools, causing them to drain dry | Here's why

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  • Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
  • Alkali-silica reaction, also called "concrete cancer," is a hidden defect plaguing pools in Central Texas, making them unusable shortly after they're built.
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Комментарии • 707

  • @darrellmoore1743
    @darrellmoore1743 28 дней назад +219

    If concrete cancer is a result of incorrect mixing. Why is the concrete contractor not on the hook? ASR is not a disease. It is a production failure.

    • @DanOKC
      @DanOKC 26 дней назад +23

      Because the Cement Mixing Company provides the mix the Chapter 11 - Sub-Contractor ask for. The Pool Builders don't care because his sub-Contractors just change corporate names and then open back up under a new business name contract out to same builders over and over.

    • @DanOKC
      @DanOKC 26 дней назад +12

      @@JudsonWallace-ll1rb WHO PLACE THE ORDER AND the MIX? Builder's RESPONSIBILITY is to give and ensure spec's are being meet. If not the builders who suppose to hire qualified sub's labor and ensure they meet his requirements. (The Builder is the General Contractor) According to your logic a Builder's responsibility is ONLY to collect money. Sweet gig

    • @darrellmoore1743
      @darrellmoore1743 26 дней назад +3

      @@DanOKC Vinny Di Goombah concrete inc.?

    • @DanOKC
      @DanOKC 26 дней назад +3

      @@darrellmoore1743 Sorry. that one when completely over my head. I am say document, document and stop pointing fingers and changing company names every season.

    • @What.The.Fluff.
      @What.The.Fluff. 24 дня назад +1

      ​@@darrellmoore1743 Yo! I know a guy!

  • @georgesmith8774
    @georgesmith8774 Месяц назад +538

    The kids used to say, "Daddy we need a pool!"
    "Nope" I answered "You need friends who have a pool."

    • @nomaderic
      @nomaderic Месяц назад +54

      Like the saying goes "a friend with a boat is better than owning a boat yourself"

    • @czechmate6916
      @czechmate6916 29 дней назад +12

      Both great answers 👍👍

    • @terryfonz4603
      @terryfonz4603 27 дней назад +8

      You just need a concrete construction engineer present to test the concrete before it is installed to insure the concrete mix is mixed correct

    • @Ek0
      @Ek0 27 дней назад +4

      When I was a kid...what I wanted more than anything was a tree house. One day, I finally got mustered up the courage to ask my parents, and I asked, "mom... dad.... can we get a tree house?" and they said, "No ek0... we have to keep living in the van." -Anthony Jeselnik joke. lulllll

    • @manuelrojas387
      @manuelrojas387 25 дней назад +2

      Best reply I have ever heard 👏

  • @epacig
    @epacig Месяц назад +290

    These flex-seal commercials are getting more elaborate

    • @tomcibulskis7649
      @tomcibulskis7649 29 дней назад +11

      Flex seal is cheaper than a lawyer!

    • @Gary65437
      @Gary65437 27 дней назад +9

      You'd think there is a nice blue rubber they can spray on as a liner like some basement foundations use to keep water out. Sure beats rebuilding a pool.

    • @Danny-fs1hk
      @Danny-fs1hk 18 дней назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @mrmrmrcaf7801
      @mrmrmrcaf7801 16 дней назад

      @@Gary65437 Of course it exists, it is a nano-based pool paint and a rubber membrane is formed , it is used all over Europe in swimming pools because there are big temperature changes and that the water does not freeze in the concrete and break it but here they don't want to use it because the price increases and they want as much profit as possible.

    • @nczioox1116
      @nczioox1116 14 дней назад

      If only they had flex seal on the titanic

  • @Xx-po1fu
    @Xx-po1fu 28 дней назад +86

    No pool is worth $115,000. I'd rather drive to the beach, or a local pool.

    • @ryanehlis426
      @ryanehlis426 22 дня назад +7

      That’s actually on the cheep end.

    • @SusiesRepeat
      @SusiesRepeat 11 дней назад

      Or a above ground pool, vinyl and Aluminium.

  • @Damone7653
    @Damone7653 26 дней назад +91

    Back in 1974 we begged our parents for a pool and they said no. We were able to get a pool liner the neighbors were throwing out and made a pool and called it "the cheap parents pool"... great memories. Missing you Mom and Dad thanks for all the love and guidance.

  • @marcusdub07
    @marcusdub07 29 дней назад +250

    $115k, that figure alone would have saved me the impending trouble.

    • @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
      @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 29 дней назад

      Yeah we can tell..

    • @philipclift7205
      @philipclift7205 25 дней назад +10

      Yeah, kiddie pools are 15 bucks at Walmart! Same, same.

    • @mhxxd4
      @mhxxd4 23 дня назад

      We know! Broke mf

    • @Gfysimpletons
      @Gfysimpletons 17 дней назад

      @@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 chump

    • @davidgray1515
      @davidgray1515 12 дней назад +1

      Some people have more money than brains, You would think he could find a more attractive mate.

  • @crinklecut3790
    @crinklecut3790 27 дней назад +73

    How did the Romans build pools so well over 1,500 years ago but we can’t?

    • @mfblowfish4671
      @mfblowfish4671 20 дней назад +15

      They weren’t using Portland cement Or steel rebar.

    • @bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186
      @bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186 17 дней назад +8

      ​@@mfblowfish4671they used tons of layers of rocks. And time tested technique of burnt shells.

    • @jenc8953
      @jenc8953 14 дней назад +5

      Because they used materials built to last that’s why everything they made is pretty much still standing till this day. I stayed in a 500 year old house in Florence, Italy 2 yrs ago. There was no concrete cancer there and the craftsmanship was insane.

    • @Al828282
      @Al828282 13 дней назад

      When you carve a pool out of the bedrock, it tends to last longer.

    • @davidgray1515
      @davidgray1515 12 дней назад

      Obviously people are way dumber now

  • @me5768
    @me5768 Месяц назад +158

    Poor concrete, the wrong mix, to much water in the mix, not enough cement in the mix the list goes on. The bottom line is they did it as cheap as possible to make money and now their customers gotta pay. They’re all just gonna file chapter 11 and walk away from it.

    • @MrWaterbugdesign
      @MrWaterbugdesign 29 дней назад +39

      It's not actually possible to build a pool using concrete with "too much water" because the concrete is shot out of a hose onto a vertical surface. Too much water and the concrete will just fall down.
      The issue with these pools is the wrong aggregate being used. Not using non-reactive aggregates or low-alkali cements or adding enough supplementary cementitious (to hardened concrete, such as fly ash, lithium nitrate, etc... It's kind of a mess because the concrete contractors aren't engineers so they don't know what kind of concrete mix to order. The concrete supplier just delivers whatever mix is asked for. And property owners want cheap, cheap, cheap so any pool bid that includes an engineer to spec the concrete mix and test each delivered load gets rejected by customers. And of course Texans hate government so there's little oversight.
      Congrats Texans, you played yourself.

    • @me5768
      @me5768 29 дней назад +2

      @@MrWaterbugdesign yes they did

    • @peter-pg5yc
      @peter-pg5yc 28 дней назад +1

      They already have.

    • @1realtruthrightnow742
      @1realtruthrightnow742 28 дней назад +1

      Thank is exactly what they did

    • @davidhughes5369
      @davidhughes5369 26 дней назад +2

      @@MrWaterbugdesign TRUTH!!!! 100%

  • @mashdatrashvideos2831
    @mashdatrashvideos2831 29 дней назад +97

    I build pools in CA and we are required to do core samples, the cost for a concrete inspector and lab results is $400.00, cheap compared to what can happen

    • @lazarosanchez5314
      @lazarosanchez5314 29 дней назад +4

      The problem with this is that you only find out the results after the concrete is placed..

    • @mashdatrashvideos2831
      @mashdatrashvideos2831 28 дней назад

      @@lazarosanchez5314 Yes, we have to turn in results prior to plastering the pool, it is part of the pre plaster inspection, sucks for everyone

    • @kevinconrad6156
      @kevinconrad6156 27 дней назад

      @@lazarosanchez5314 But you know it is not what you ordered and can have it replaced immediately.

    • @Mixer-he2wb
      @Mixer-he2wb 26 дней назад

      And final payment isn't withheld until project completion?! Keeps the contractor on the subcontractor, etc.

    • @FaithandNova
      @FaithandNova 24 дня назад +4

      @@lazarosanchez5314at the end of the video she said to make sure they are using the right concrete mix. Meaning there has to be a way of knowing beforehand

  • @asymmetry9988
    @asymmetry9988 26 дней назад +21

    I installed a pool at my last house. Never again. They are a money pit.

  • @southern04man
    @southern04man Месяц назад +80

    Bad cement is more common than everyone thinks. There's a cement plant in my area that has horrible cement. They getting sued now.

    • @danwaller5312
      @danwaller5312 29 дней назад +10

      Do you know the difference between CONCRETE AND CEMENT?

    • @lostfool
      @lostfool 29 дней назад +26

      ​​@@danwaller5312Cement is the most important ingredient in concrete. It's the binding agent in concrete, bad cement makes bad concrete. If you're going to try to make someone sound dumb don't make dumb comments.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 28 дней назад +6

      @@danwaller5312 he is talking about bad Portland Cement. It is assumed concrete is parts gravel, parts sand , water, and Portland Cement. Rebar reinforced. And poured.

    • @danwaller5312
      @danwaller5312 28 дней назад +3

      @@serafinacosta7118 if the Cement doesn’t meet ASTM C94 they can’t and wouldn’t sell it. If the cement is bad it wouldn’t only be showing up in pools!

    • @Jamietheroadrunner
      @Jamietheroadrunner 27 дней назад +6

      Probably bought it cheap from China. In China, they call it tofu-dreg construction because all their newer buildings and skyscrapers are literally falling down around them. It’s fascinating and horrifying the videos you see from China. These people are mostly part of their new middle class and they end up buying homes they can’t move into and they still have to pay off the banks anyway! On top of all that, all their real estate companies are filing for bankruptcy. Whatever our problems here, we are lucky to live in the USA.

  • @tedecker3792
    @tedecker3792 Месяц назад +55

    I worked in a concrete test lab while I was in college. Each material in the mix had to pass rigorous testing. Any part of the mix can call failure. An engineer can specify each component of the mix, its source, its validated testing, and the ratio of each for the mix. Don’t cheap out.

    • @skutchBlobaum
      @skutchBlobaum 28 дней назад +1

      All concrete cracks eventually.

    • @tedecker3792
      @tedecker3792 28 дней назад +7

      @@skutchBlobaum all concrete is not the same.

  • @patpatpat999
    @patpatpat999 24 дня назад +15

    I dont know about Texas, but in most states when you are trying to sell your house, at least 1/2 the potential buyers will pass on any house with a pool.

    • @user-qr7ee2cp4y
      @user-qr7ee2cp4y 15 дней назад +2

      Wouldn't touch a house with a pool. A bottomless pit in which you throw money.

  • @steveincali1
    @steveincali1 24 дня назад +53

    Neighbors must have loved the sound system and all the visitors.

    • @Gfysimpletons
      @Gfysimpletons 17 дней назад +5

      Yeah, he’s a nuisance I bet…..

    • @hello-ef4bn
      @hello-ef4bn 15 дней назад +7

      Don’t buy a house 15ft from your neighbors if you don’t want to hear them. If people having fun bothers you then go buy 40 acres of peace and quiet.

    • @kstreet7438
      @kstreet7438 13 дней назад +1

      ​@@hello-ef4bnlol for real. These two comments are sad.

    • @Cocollyt
      @Cocollyt 13 дней назад +2

      @@hello-ef4bnyeah yikes I love hearing my neighbors. As long as people are respectful this is just part of living among people.

    • @levak8740
      @levak8740 12 дней назад

      Ha ha ha ha !

  • @NativeAmericanSwag
    @NativeAmericanSwag 28 дней назад +30

    115k for a pool? For a hole in the ground to add some water in? They don’t have the same financial concerns many other people have…🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @supersize75k5
      @supersize75k5 26 дней назад +1

      That’s the price of a new fully loaded 1 ton truck or a Denali suv, it’s not that crazy

    • @TannerCity
      @TannerCity 23 дня назад

      @@supersize75k5no but it’s crazy that people pay that price for them.

  • @viktorakhmedov3442
    @viktorakhmedov3442 26 дней назад +24

    Your description of what causes ASR is incorrect. It has nothing to do with how it is mixed. It's the type of aggregate used. Most other areas learned this lesson 20 years ago.

  • @jkd77433
    @jkd77433 29 дней назад +47

    One might wonder how much of this concrete mix was used in our roads and bridges as well as other structures. Denver's new airport was plagued by similar problems with the concrete used in the runways in the 1990s.

    • @anderander5662
      @anderander5662 29 дней назад +5

      There's an expressway in my town of Tulsa that failed after a few years and is now being completely torn out and redone.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 28 дней назад +2

      And then they blame the Chinese and their Tofu Projects.

    • @Molon_Labe1776
      @Molon_Labe1776 24 дня назад +7

      They replaced my street recently and its like recycled asphalt. It's got huge gaps between the aggregate and it starting to fall apart months after. Water also weeps up from the ground during/after rain.

  • @peter-pg5yc
    @peter-pg5yc 28 дней назад +47

    And Roman concrete is self healing and still standing..

  • @sjbock
    @sjbock 29 дней назад +14

    Came here for the comments about a $115,000 pool and the wife's appearance and I'm not disappointed.

  • @moochythecat3435
    @moochythecat3435 20 дней назад +8

    All of the Milwaukee County public swimming pools built in the 1960's are still in mint condition and have never leaked...

  • @1realtruthrightnow742
    @1realtruthrightnow742 28 дней назад +9

    I was watching a court case a few weeks ago. A former pool installer admitted in court that his company installed thousands of pools that have a defect in the concrete that will cause them to fall apart. He dissolved the company and reopened under a new name, still doing the same work. All of those home owners are now left in the lurch with no recourse. Also I had NO IDEA how expensive and lucrative the pool business is.

  • @dandan7973
    @dandan7973 27 дней назад +11

    I just can’t feel bad for them. You can spend $115k on a POOL?!? 🖕🏻🖕🏻

    • @richardsmith5840
      @richardsmith5840 18 дней назад +1

      $100k-$125k is the pricing for an in-ground pool now around central Texas.

  • @paulcontreras3264
    @paulcontreras3264 Месяц назад +160

    I have been in the construction business for over 27 years and 20 years with my own company. I always tell people to please please get structural construction components engineered then get bids based on the engineers report and specifications. In almost every case the homeowners decline because of the cost. How much does it cost to demolish and rebuild your pool or foundation? 100,000.00+ and you won't spend $1,000 to have it engineered . Amazing stupidity.

    • @alexsystems2001
      @alexsystems2001 Месяц назад +28

      So bad concrete mixture can be fixed by having a structural engineer?

    • @tomcibulskis7649
      @tomcibulskis7649 29 дней назад +22

      The specifications for the concrete mix design were probably not correct. I would have MANDATED stainless steel rebar #4 @ 12 inches on center both ways one layer. Or heavy stainless steel wire mesh of the same steel area. Pools are legally "non structural". Consumers need to hire a third party Structural Engineer for a concrete swimming pool. Ask for a full set of calculations also. If you cannot afford to pay an engineer 1000$ or 2000$, then you will not be able to afford to pay your swimming pool utility bill.

    • @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
      @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 29 дней назад +29

      The pool Contractor collects the 110,000 dollars💰... And then makes the pool Subcontractors cannibalize each other, then picks the low ball Subcontractor to do the work..😂 And then start a podcast How he is the victim..😅 😊

    • @scaramouche8244
      @scaramouche8244 29 дней назад

      @@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 I am sure the illegals who did the work are not worried at all.

    • @paulcontreras3264
      @paulcontreras3264 29 дней назад +5

      @@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 100% Correct.

  • @Jason-pq5mq
    @Jason-pq5mq Месяц назад +74

    How many buildings, structures, and support columns were built using these contractors? I hardly doubt it’s only pools. Does to story go further or stop at pools?

    • @imfloridano5448
      @imfloridano5448 Месяц назад +12

      I was thinking the very same thing. I'm wondering if any government structures have been built using these contractors as well.

    • @akshonclip
      @akshonclip Месяц назад +7

      Shotcrete is completely different. This is the result of the contractor adding too much sand to the mix. It’s easier to trowel but not as robust.

    • @tomcibulskis7649
      @tomcibulskis7649 29 дней назад +7

      It probably only affects pools. Like roofers, pool contractors are cowboys. Y'all don't need no engineering. My swimming pool excavation contractor would not accept my drawing. I couldn't send it to him registered mail because he slept in his truck. He did the excavation correctly but it took 3 months.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 28 дней назад +2

      @@tomcibulskis7649 you should’ve posted as a topic reply. At the very least a few more people would giggle at your anecdotes.

    • @JCSmith-uo5cu
      @JCSmith-uo5cu 26 дней назад +1

      I was thinking the same thing. Those lips and hair were nuts. Why I will never let my wife get lip injections.

  • @jpolish420
    @jpolish420 27 дней назад +6

    Just what you would expect out of Texas.

  • @theotheleo6830
    @theotheleo6830 28 дней назад +9

    A pool is great, as long as it's someone else's. Pools must be maintained forever, even when they're no longer used.

  • @thomascunningham111
    @thomascunningham111 27 дней назад +9

    When ASR ("concrete cancer") occurs in cement, a soluble gel of sodium silicates forms on the aggregates. This gel can swell and expand as it absorbs water, creating pressure that FRACTURES concrete from within. The result is often significant cracking that weakens the concrete and increases risks of structural failure.

  • @eugenefirebird8938
    @eugenefirebird8938 26 дней назад +51

    I bet his neighbors loved his sound system. ha ha ha

    • @JeffsGypsy
      @JeffsGypsy 22 дня назад +9

      Was thinking that, also.

    • @radicalronie
      @radicalronie 22 дня назад +12

      I was thinking the same thing with those houses being so close together! Lol Bet the neighbors are happy now. 😅

    • @backtoasimplelife
      @backtoasimplelife 21 день назад +4

      Yeah, some of them are probably SO disappointed that this happened.

    • @motorhead281
      @motorhead281 18 дней назад

      This guys got a hot wife and lots of $... he doesn't have hood rat neighbors like you all lol😂

  • @greydovegardens7688
    @greydovegardens7688 28 дней назад +43

    Bet your neighbors are thinking it's karma for those outdoor speakers you installed and most likely blasting.
    " We have people over ALL the time."

    • @davidhughes5369
      @davidhughes5369 26 дней назад +9

      EXACTLY!!😂😂😂

    • @geemama420
      @geemama420 24 дня назад +3

      Yes I literally just wrote this 😂

    • @lobstermash
      @lobstermash 19 дней назад +4

      Yes. Noise like that is a form of aggression.

    • @MrC9Oh3
      @MrC9Oh3 12 дней назад

      Yeah and that fake lipped wife

  • @RodManFB
    @RodManFB 27 дней назад +4

    That backyard was full of people when the pool was new. Now… not so much!

  • @MarkTurner-vs7uc
    @MarkTurner-vs7uc 27 дней назад +32

    Never buy a house with a pool. Listen to me, please save yourself endless troubles and giant piles of money. Forget the pool.

    • @user-gl9iz1bp1r
      @user-gl9iz1bp1r 22 дня назад +2

      Had a fiberglass pool. Best day was when we removed it. Just not worth the time and risk (had little grandkids). Lots of work to remove, but enjoy the extra space.

    • @NicholasWHaley7
      @NicholasWHaley7 20 дней назад +2

      Had a pool growing up. It was great and totally worth it.

  • @FlickLives
    @FlickLives Месяц назад +77

    It’s a real shame this happened in a state with some of the worst consumer protection laws and regulations on the books. All these people are gonna get hosed.

    • @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
      @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 29 дней назад +16

      👍🇺🇸 The great state of texas, And there beliefs in less regulations...😊

    • @alienorificeinvestigation
      @alienorificeinvestigation 29 дней назад +5

      Wasn't the pool builders fault, the concrete mix was faulty.

    • @ButterNutter37
      @ButterNutter37 28 дней назад

      ​@@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 Corporations own Texas now.

    • @peter-pg5yc
      @peter-pg5yc 28 дней назад +7

      Limited liability companies. also bankruptcy, close down business its all over folks they be gone.

    • @neilopfer5687
      @neilopfer5687 27 дней назад

      The laws/regulations really don't matter when you have wide-spread failures as I've seen comparable issues (not concrete related) in California, Illinois, and Michigan. These three states have buco regulations. Plus, from what's presented here, it was the quality of ready-mix concrete coming from the concrete plant that was problematic which is obviously not made by the concrete contractor.

  • @radolfkalis4041
    @radolfkalis4041 Месяц назад +83

    None of these people are going to see a penny for their pools. Most concrete subcontractor are small operations than will ninja vanish at the first sign of trouble, a d the costs of these pools will absolutely bankrupt almost every pool company out there. I feel for these poor folks.

    • @_PatrickO
      @_PatrickO 28 дней назад +7

      The owners need to go to jail. A pool company selling 100k pools who claims to have no clue how the concrete needs to be mixed is absolutely ridiculous. Of course the owner in the video is apologetic, he doesn't want to go to jail for his massive fraud.

    • @michaelstrang2563
      @michaelstrang2563 27 дней назад +6

      Pool companies don’t mix or pour concrete, there is a company that pours it and a company that manufactures the concrete itself. It the the manufacturer of the concrete that is at fault.

    • @radolfkalis4041
      @radolfkalis4041 27 дней назад

      @@michaelstrang2563 That is what I said. :)

    • @_PatrickO
      @_PatrickO 27 дней назад

      @@michaelstrang2563 Sorry, but you cannot be in business if you aren't validating the mix in any way. You also should be buying insurance for this if it is a business risk. The consumer is the only innocent person here. These fly by night pool companies ignore all quality and just quickly install pools that look nice with no care about how long they will last.
      They don't get to say they don't understand concrete as that is the primary thing a pool installer needs to know.

    • @collinandry1188
      @collinandry1188 26 дней назад

      @@michaelstrang2563EXACTLY

  • @lukegaming86
    @lukegaming86 21 день назад +7

    I like how they are describing their pool’s diagnosis like it was a human being who got cancer 😂

  • @lrs7777
    @lrs7777 29 дней назад +13

    Warning: pool contractors DON’T offer to fix another contractor’s problems.

    • @skutchBlobaum
      @skutchBlobaum 28 дней назад +1

      Yet they'll be more than happy to suggest their buddies(or their brother in law's) concrete company to you.

  • @MM-qs2ny
    @MM-qs2ny 29 дней назад +26

    Back in the 80s. Just swam the river and built a rope swing. Way better than a boring pool.

    • @FINfinFINfinFINfin
      @FINfinFINfinFINfin 27 дней назад

      These guys swim the river and spray gunite.

    • @alexlopez5800
      @alexlopez5800 26 дней назад +5

      Can't do that now. Over crowded rivers, polluted rivers, and everyone's hostility towards each other

    • @maryswanson9982
      @maryswanson9982 26 дней назад

      We found an old rock quarry, or went to the public pool.

    • @mdb45424
      @mdb45424 22 дня назад

      Public pools have the fun without the maintenance. Just got to share

    • @nonawolf7495
      @nonawolf7495 19 дней назад

      Wait till bad concrete starts showing up in bridges, runways, foundations, et...

  • @patrickradcliffe3837
    @patrickradcliffe3837 Месяц назад +35

    First sign of ASR I would have drained the pool and told builder that they are paying for a liner installation.

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace 29 дней назад +12

      In the midwest, due to freeze/thaw heave, nearly every pool has a vinyl liner; I'm putting in a new one now. Not cheap, but works out to a couple of hundred or so per year.

    • @anderander5662
      @anderander5662 29 дней назад +4

      It's not just the pool itself it's the steps and the walls surrounding it

    • @patrickradcliffe3837
      @patrickradcliffe3837 29 дней назад +4

      @@anderander5662 I agree the surrounding concrete will need to be replaced with the correct type.

  • @HipsterBanana
    @HipsterBanana Месяц назад +18

    Someone fricked and went for cheap aggregate that reacts in the concrete. No matter how many times they fixed it if the aggregate is messed up, it'll be a money pit.

  • @TheMowsefan
    @TheMowsefan 28 дней назад +12

    Can they add a vinyl liner or fiberglass lining to the pool instead of demolition and rebuilding it?

    • @NDcompetitiveshooter
      @NDcompetitiveshooter 10 дней назад

      Only if there will be long term structural integrity of the concrete basin holding the water. To do it right, a structural engineer would have to sign off on the modification being a sound remediation to the problem.

  • @dogface-hd8px
    @dogface-hd8px Месяц назад +17

    So glad I bought an amazing fiberglass pool!! I am out time to jump in my pool!

    • @os2958
      @os2958 29 дней назад +2

      glad to know there are alternatives

    • @bigdougscommentary5719
      @bigdougscommentary5719 27 дней назад +2

      Same here. 19 years old and swimming to this day.

  • @gallardo360
    @gallardo360 29 дней назад +12

    fiberglass is the way to go , hands down the best and cheapest to maintain 💯 %

  • @bigdougscommentary5719
    @bigdougscommentary5719 27 дней назад +5

    The builders make it sound like the cancer was a surprise. It was shoddy workmanship.

  • @scottsnodgrass4361
    @scottsnodgrass4361 Месяц назад +94

    That’s some bad botox or plastic surgery

  • @williamlevesque6348
    @williamlevesque6348 26 дней назад +5

    Its not a disease, its quality control issue on the materials used

  • @chrismathes3647
    @chrismathes3647 Месяц назад +85

    100K for a pool? You ain't got real problems 💯

    • @user-bg2gh6ty2b
      @user-bg2gh6ty2b 29 дней назад +11

      Right?? That Walmart pool would be like 1000 for the nice one with a pallet deck 😂

    • @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
      @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 29 дней назад +4

      Don't.
      Be a hater, You can't put a walmart pool in that neighborhood,

    • @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
      @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 29 дней назад +5

      The pool Contractor collects the 110,000 dollars💰😃... And then makes the pool Subcontractors cannibalize each other, then picks the low ball Subcontractor to do the work..😂 And then start a podcast How he is the victim, American greed at its best 😅 😊

    • @2ndgradeuscitizen
      @2ndgradeuscitizen 29 дней назад +2

      Spending 100K for a pool is a big problem, but driving new luxury SUVs, visiting Disney parks and eating in restaurants is a necessity.

    • @user-bg2gh6ty2b
      @user-bg2gh6ty2b 29 дней назад +3

      @@2ndgradeuscitizen literally none of that is necessary.....

  • @pwu8194
    @pwu8194 29 дней назад +8

    There was a wall (shown on the video) that wasn't supported by pressure from dirt. That was disaster waiting to happen.
    The pool needed to be supported by walls of dirt or has to have steel frame strong enough to bring it together, like those done on the top of sky scrappers. His $125K wasn't going to be enough for something like that.
    It was bad from the start. They wanted to have a pool, but don't know anything about engineering. Pool company just wanted to make money. Pool company can always file bankruptcy when it gets sued.

    • @dr.emilschaffhausen4683
      @dr.emilschaffhausen4683 27 дней назад +2

      Hydrostatic pressure is a bit like the terminator for walls... It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. "It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear! And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until your wall is dead!"

  • @glike2
    @glike2 26 дней назад +4

    A fiberglass pool lasts many many decades, costs less, looks beautiful, and allows pool shoppers can avoid all this.

    • @vivalaleta
      @vivalaleta 26 дней назад

      But it's PLASTIC. 😱

  • @Borkery
    @Borkery 27 дней назад +6

    never go with the lowest concrete bidder

  • @kimward5746
    @kimward5746 11 дней назад +1

    this is a great little expose. like a mini-documentary. even with some interesting closure at the end with the guy podcasting. nice job, real journalists!

  • @genehasenbuhler2594
    @genehasenbuhler2594 29 дней назад +12

    I live in the far west end of Texas- we have had this since the early 80s here! I've had to demo almost every pool made back then to now! The alkyl comes from the water they add to the mix! It's basically internal at that point and there is no way other than to use filter treated water to both make and cure the concrete!

    • @dunweyweydum
      @dunweyweydum 29 дней назад +5

      Sounds like you could make a useful video on the alkaline water issue....???

    • @deemelody2396
      @deemelody2396 27 дней назад +2

      I can see adjusting the water pH with some chemicals, but why would they have to filter the water?
      I wonder if this "concrete cancer" cracking is happening in other states with alkaline water?

    • @genehasenbuhler2594
      @genehasenbuhler2594 27 дней назад +2

      @@deemelody2396 it's happening all over the country! Especially in the southwest!

    • @genehasenbuhler2594
      @genehasenbuhler2594 27 дней назад +2

      @@deemelody2396 here we use filter systems to remove the alkalinity for swamp coolers! That and diodes to keep the corrosion down!

  • @scottprather5645
    @scottprather5645 29 дней назад +7

    There was another part of the country that had aggregate which contained pyrite it reacted and turned into sulfuric acid and the foundations were literally crumbling turned into a nightmare for a lot of homeowners.

  • @craigg4925
    @craigg4925 29 дней назад +6

    You know, if they mix, quicklime, crushed shell and salt water, when making the concrete it will heal itself. that is why the stuff the Romans made are still standing.

  • @diegop2311
    @diegop2311 24 дня назад +5

    The reason chemistry is important 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @skin2117
    @skin2117 29 дней назад +8

    Concrete was not mixed properly. With that said why go after the pool companies? You should be going after the concert plant. You'd almost think they would have a performance insurance policy or a performance bond to cover their product.

    • @lazarosanchez5314
      @lazarosanchez5314 29 дней назад

      Great idea

    • @kevinconrad6156
      @kevinconrad6156 27 дней назад +3

      It's Texas, consumer has no protection, neither do the small contractors. What you get when you think government regulation is a waste of resources instead of a helping hand for the small guy.

  • @trancextend
    @trancextend 29 дней назад +6

    No body is suing the concrete provider? They made the mix!!

  • @clifflong7944
    @clifflong7944 Месяц назад +17

    NOT the contractors fault. This falls completely on the batch plant that mixed the mud. They were given the specs when it was ordered. Contractor measures slump, batch plant measures concrete quality and composition. Every order can be different.

    • @lutomson3496
      @lutomson3496 Месяц назад +3

      if proper engineering wasnt done to specify the proper mix of concrete to match the soil and water composition, it is on the contractor. Only if the concrete plant was given the proper mix breakdown, and core sampled, and the plant failed to do so, is the concrete plant...

    • @clifflong7944
      @clifflong7944 29 дней назад +10

      @@lutomson3496 I worked at a batch plant...we did our own QC with concrete samples constantly so we had proof the concrete was mixed properly. Things were always being weighed ,measured and lab verified. This is just a lack of fly ash in the mix which is weird because its a super low cost component. It's a waste byproduct from power plants and readily available.

    • @matthewnosal6893
      @matthewnosal6893 29 дней назад +2

      This is a concrete foundation problem. Think a slab for a house. The elaborate walls steps require an engineer and a concrete contractor that communicates and are on the same page. Most in ground pools don’t have this problem. Most in ground pool’s without all the fancy superstructures don’t have this problem using gunite and rebar

    • @peterkn2
      @peterkn2 27 дней назад +1

      I think it's the contractor's fault because they chose the concrete mixing company to subcontract with.

  • @chriscordray8572
    @chriscordray8572 29 дней назад +4

    We have know about concrete cancer for 50 plus years . Fly ash hardened the concrete. The concrete companies are to blame to knowing a pool takes different concrete than a standard foundation or sidewalk. Always use a epoxy coat over the entire pool surfaces. Deck and pool. It's a great investment on your addition to you yard. Epoxy comes in many colors. And it's permanently sealing the concrete surface. A new concrete actually heats itself below freezing Temps to keep the ice and snow off for hours after temperatures drop. No electricity or warming pipes under the concrete.

  • @NappyRB
    @NappyRB 26 дней назад +2

    I mean a pool liner would help

  • @_PatrickO
    @_PatrickO 28 дней назад +4

    Pool builders: "we had no idea what we were doing, so please feel sorry for us".

  • @JoseGonzalez-pv6sy
    @JoseGonzalez-pv6sy 26 дней назад +2

    Hire a pool company that does shock creek this ensures the concrete is well mix because it gets mix twice

  • @lazarosanchez5314
    @lazarosanchez5314 29 дней назад +6

    Years ago knauf imported chinese drywall tainted with a high level of sulfides. Seems like a similar problem

    • @tdw5933
      @tdw5933 27 дней назад

      In Florida, it was a very smelly situation

  • @galexander8723
    @galexander8723 26 дней назад +1

    I’ve recently retired from 40+ years in the concrete industry and I tell you there’s no such thing as cancer in concrete. It all comes down to the concrete mix.

  • @charrepz
    @charrepz 29 дней назад +13

    Dear Pool People, I had wrapped my pool with fiberglass coating 20 years ago with a 25 year warranty. My pool is perfect still and it’s taken so much less chemicals to adjust ph and clean then standard concrete gunite and plaster pools. Also get your self a sand filter and wrap that pool with fiberglass and fire your pool man and chemical company!

    • @2ndgradeuscitizen
      @2ndgradeuscitizen 29 дней назад +1

      I second that!

    • @MADmidway
      @MADmidway 28 дней назад +5

      I'm with you except for the Sand filter.
      DE is the best filter over the long run. Simply because it can be rebuilt and you can vacuum directly into the filter.
      It uses less water to backwash also.

    • @ANT18621
      @ANT18621 27 дней назад

      Coat with fiberglass? How? Is that a DIY project or have to hire a fiberglass guy? Please advise, thanks.

    • @charrepz
      @charrepz 25 дней назад

      @@ANT18621 professionals do fiberglass coatings on standard gunite pools. Does America still use a yellow pages? 😆

    • @charrepz
      @charrepz 25 дней назад

      @@MADmidway The sand filter makes cleaning a breeze. Cleaning is why we hire a pool Man. Oh! Let me clarify, if you ever worked a pole on 6 pools in one day. Brushing algae and scrubbing mold? If you have, you know this is a Man’s job or Your girl best have some serious shoulders and stamina to make this her career. Just clarifying!

  • @dustinscheller7795
    @dustinscheller7795 20 дней назад +1

    Fly ash is literally the cheapest thing ever but they may not have it in tx everywhere since it's used mainly in mines to fire proof the walls of the mine

  • @SirHumano97
    @SirHumano97 8 дней назад

    I like the guy showing the pool builder awards... The awards are given based on how the pool looks when you finish it, not based on the quality of the product after 5 or 10 years which is what matters the most.

  • @shane7133
    @shane7133 3 дня назад

    I worked for Hines in Austin for a few years. Great company and a great owner. All I can say is that having a pool is incredibly expensive, even if it is done right. After working on them for a few years, my recommendation to anyone who purchases a home with a pool would be to fill it in with dirt.

  • @DanOKC
    @DanOKC 26 дней назад +1

    The receipt of the formula used by Concrete Mixer Suppliers should be REQUIRED BY LAW for any concrete work period. The Required Building Material Specifications given to the Cement Company and it's Certification of Concrete Content matching those specification, should be considered every bit as important as your Property Titles and Insurance Policies. Cement integrity impacts everything aspect about your structure, foundation, floors, driveways, pools any and everything on the property. ( Why do states NOT REQUIRED THIS? )

  • @LoriL010
    @LoriL010 Месяц назад +9

    United States imports Cement primarily from: Turkey ($636M), Canada ($512M), Mexico ($254M), Vietnam ($203M), and Greece ($152M). The fastest growing import markets in Cement for United States between 2021 and 2022 were Turkey ($319M), Vietnam ($99M), and Mexico ($83.2M). China produces the most cement globally by a large margin, at an estimated 2.1 billion metric tons in 2022. China's cement production share equates to over half of the world's cement.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 29 дней назад +3

      Hopefully Brazil does not import cement. Our Steel Mills are still running. Top cement brand seller for any serious builder is Votorantin.
      The late Antonio Ermírio de Moraes , our Robber Baron , was dead serious about his product. He also ran aluminum smelter plants.
      So in hindsight , I will stick with older building structures when taking listings to showcase.

  • @mvsorola
    @mvsorola 17 дней назад

    Great story! TY for looking into this.. pools in South Texas are so prevalent.

  • @kristibuckley
    @kristibuckley 23 дня назад +1

    I would never buy a house with an in ground pool or put one in myself. Anyone I know with one has a never ending list of issues. We bought a 30ft above ground and are just fine with it. Over 20 years using it and only had to get a new set of steps a couple years back.

  • @MrTwenty20video
    @MrTwenty20video 13 дней назад

    That's terrible for both parties. Mixing concrete properly for pool construction is an art.

  • @collinandry1188
    @collinandry1188 26 дней назад +1

    If the builder is using any NPT pool finish components,
    This entire material defect is completely avoided , and only uses the highest quality cement, aggregate, etc.

  • @user-dv7hq2rh4g
    @user-dv7hq2rh4g 28 дней назад +1

    The phenomenon is not the cause, it's the result.
    The result of companies cutting corners and trying save costs either when using or selling concrete.
    I would guess it's more likely the ones who are making the concrete than those who use it.

  • @rambone5282
    @rambone5282 27 дней назад +2

    Cheap labor and more profit. Let's face it I'm Hispanic but it doesn't mean I'm the best labor out there you have to pay for skill and knowledge.

  • @stephenbrand5661
    @stephenbrand5661 20 дней назад +1

    This is just part of the charm of living somewhere without so much big government oversight, and overreach!
    I heard Dave Rubin telling Joe Rogan all about it!that

  • @stevec8861
    @stevec8861 28 дней назад +2

    Given the timing of complaints, have to wonder if Type IL cement component of concrete, aka PLC, is involved? To reduce carbon emissions in cement manufacturing, Type IL cement replaces 10-15% of Traditional Type I/II cement with raw ground limestone. I believe Type IL was a small part of market back in 2017 when these complaints started, but now outsells Type I/II cement.

  • @mrmrmrcaf7801
    @mrmrmrcaf7801 16 дней назад +1

    We have one of those big 14000 gallons Intex above ground pools for the kids and never had any problems...we install it when summer comes,you get them from walmart for $1800-$2000 and it is much bigger and much cheaper to maintain than any concrete pool from this video 🤣

  • @salinarodriguez309
    @salinarodriguez309 11 дней назад +1

    We just got our pool built last year and this is scaring me now. And it was with premier pool and spa!

  • @sw6118
    @sw6118 25 дней назад +1

    So how do you get the test pour records/know the right mix?

  • @craiglee3253
    @craiglee3253 28 дней назад +2

    The ancient romans knew of this effect in concrete construction. It isn't new and is totally avoidable. The pool builder who has lost confidence of his clients deserves to go under.

  • @peter-pg5yc
    @peter-pg5yc 28 дней назад +2

    Strange a pool company doesnt keep tight control of the products used. research products use proper contractors that know their trade. So basically the company is just plain ignorant. Hit and run, uses a subcontractor with zero control ... what could go wrong?

  • @babyseals4872
    @babyseals4872 24 дня назад +1

    Meanwhile the Pantheon continues standing. As a society we have completely forgotten how to do everything

  • @Peeta-wn4hh
    @Peeta-wn4hh 17 дней назад

    It wasn’t mentioned in the video, but it would be interesting to know what grade (or standard) of cement was used.

  • @mattbosley3531
    @mattbosley3531 28 дней назад +4

    Spending $120,000 on a pool seems kind of ridiculous. These people have too much money and not enough sense.

  • @Reyvion
    @Reyvion 20 дней назад

    As devestating as this is for them (financially), i'm so glad concrete cancer isn't actually like a sort of illness someone can get from the cracks of a pool.

  • @Thepriest39
    @Thepriest39 29 дней назад +4

    I would be devastated at loosing all of that money.

  • @alphalight1469
    @alphalight1469 11 дней назад

    That would look so bad. Poor dude. That home value took a massive shot.

  • @YESITSWILL
    @YESITSWILL 28 дней назад +2

    So I guess it´s true, A pool actually is a hole in the ground that you pour money into.

  • @andrewfisher8749
    @andrewfisher8749 17 дней назад

    As a pool owner/builder here in Commiefornia I feel for all involved. I’ve had zero structural problems on my pool/spa built in 2003. I subcontracted it myself and completed it in six weeks. I lucked out before the market went crazy. $27,000.

  • @dr.emilschaffhausen4683
    @dr.emilschaffhausen4683 27 дней назад +1

    Poor concrete work happens in this business. Shady pool companies are a dime a dozen. They're everywhere.

  • @orion2250
    @orion2250 Месяц назад +10

    Sue the concrete contractor

  • @CommentsAllowed
    @CommentsAllowed 29 дней назад +2

    Having a pool can be one of the most stressful things in your life. Just go to the YMCA.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 28 дней назад

      And you can barbecue by the poolside. On the YMCA. Brilliant.

    • @CommentsAllowed
      @CommentsAllowed 28 дней назад

      @@serafinacosta7118 That's a great idea! Bring the bbq to the YMCA. Can make a whole class out of it. 😀

  • @nancienordwick4169
    @nancienordwick4169 13 дней назад

    In Seattle, the King County metro light rail addition is delayex and had to be redone due to concrete problems. I wonder if it was a supply issue for concrete ingredients. More of a nation wide issue. ?

  • @rnvrnv354
    @rnvrnv354 27 дней назад +1

    What about the the reinforcement and foundation? Those cracks are huge and were created by immense water pressure!
    The

  • @lutomson3496
    @lutomson3496 Месяц назад +3

    used cheap concrete...any competent engineer would know about ash and the consequences of not using it in concrete, in the projects especially with water and soil testing that identifies the chemical composition. guess there either wasnt engineering done, or if it was the contractors cheapened out

  • @joshuaupham5993
    @joshuaupham5993 27 дней назад +1

    115,000? 😂 I'm sorry, you do you.

  • @centex7409
    @centex7409 19 дней назад

    I worked in this industry at the primary supplier of pool equipment for the Central Texas area in 2021. I met and talked with most of the big builders and saw many of the realities of the industry in the area..
    Here's the BIGGEST reality that lead to this: People flooding in from California freaking out about how cheap life was (yeah WAS) around here decided they all needed pools. Builders were running after tripping over themselves unable to keep up with the utterly insane demand. So of course a bunch of fly by night scamners showed up at every level. ESPECIALLY in the concrete business.. Because on top of it at, there was an utterly insane construction boom going on. The wait times for concrete were insane back then. So all these guys from far away with absolutely NO idea about the specific conditions here (like our utterly alkaline water) just took orders and ran. The builders didn't have time to check up on anything..
    I wouldn't be surprised to find out over 50% off all pools and homes built in Central Texas since 2015 are utter trash.

  • @donnak743
    @donnak743 19 дней назад

    I’m so glad I’ve never had a desire to have a pool. ❤

  • @russg007
    @russg007 22 дня назад

    I've heard that a lot of houses in Texas have cracking foundations.

  • @shakey2634
    @shakey2634 29 дней назад +1

    Time to have it all removed, to lower your stress and let the lawsuit wind it’s way through the legal,system.