It’s not about saying Asian people shouldn’t rap. Hip hop is all about authenticity. Real hip hop at least. If an Asian girl from Orange County gets behind the mic and starts rapping about the hood, and guns, and using the n-word, it’s clear that she doesn’t respect the art form, but more so is just fascinated by its swagger, popularity, and is performing what she thinks it is. No one accuses Eminem of cultural appropriation. He grew up in Detroit, did underground rap battles to cement his place in the genre. He didn’t rap about gang culture or use the n word. He rapped about his dysfunctional family, goofy shit that was on his mind. If your Asian and authentic....go ahead. But if your performing what you think blackness/hip hop is, that’s when I have a problem.
Briana Tippens Took a while to scroll down and find an evenly measured comment. Plenty of ways to respect the music we love. What do you think of black artists that rap about a hard life they didn’t live ie Pusha T and his fake cocaine selling, Rick Ross w his past as a correctional officer?
@@adlanhaziq If your going to rap something, own it. Don't lie and make a false image of yourself, because they're are kids that are actually from the hood and go through the things you say in your music that look up yo you. Just be honest about what you represent. That's the problem.
Hmmm you make a lot of judgements about other people without knowing anything about them...There is no such thing as cultural appropriation...learning from and sharing various forms of culture has been done since the beginning of time and is the highest form of flattery, theres a word for it...it's called art...it's literally how every culture has evolved, by learning and sharing with others..of course vice would take the sharing of culture and art and try to make a problem where none exists
@Kimora Harris Lmfao just because the public think the black person does is "ghetto and ratchet" doesn't mean all other races ppl think like that?? And it's not the Asian rappers' fault either. You also stated "have permission and give credit"?? How tf does that make any goddamn sense?? How is it even possible ask the whole black community to ask "permission" and "give credit"?? So if we are using English as a language and we did not asked for permission from the British and did not give credit to them,does that mean all of us here are cultural appropriating them too? The hypocrisy lmao 💀 Why can't y'all just stop sending hate and let people like and enjoy and appreciate other cultures in whatever ways they wanted?
@@E-wall_607 Appropriation is taking something unique about a minority culture by a more privileged culture and using it for your own benefit. "Benefit" is the key word here. If that's what's happening, then it's appropriation. Nothing else you are saying here matters.
Stop being crybaby woketards! Islamic isn't a culture it's a religion I'm Eastern Asian and Muslim and culture appropriation is fake I laugh at woketards trying to be culture elitists.
@@E-wall_607 how is it hate when it LITERALLY comes from black culture????????????? One about the British bs, both America and the Uk spoke English so idrk what was happening in your head when you were trying to comment. It's hard arguing with a smart person but it's nearly impossible to try to get a dumb mf to understand.
Early Black rappers mentioned how the Hip Hop movement was inspired by 1970s Chinese kungfu films like Bruce Lee and Gordon Liu Is Hop Hop cultural appropriation?
Not really.. One of the defining points is whether I consider something "cultural appropriation" or not is if there is a genuine level of admiration & respect involved toward the artform *AND* the creators/originators of said artform. We all know how most Asian cultures (especially East Asian) view American "black culture" & treat black folks in general, sooooo...
@@retiredtidepodeater3339 It goes both ways: www.buzzfeed.com/hnigatu/dumb-rap-lyrics-about-asian-people There are dicks in every culture and there are certainly plenty of black rappers who use racist terminology about Asians rather than showing a "genuine level of admiration & respect" like you're claiming. You obviously didn't watch this video and hold a double standard.
@@retiredtidepodeater3339 you wrong asf I always see u ppl saying Asians discriminate against black, there are some asshole evrywhere even in black society, I as an Indian think that u are purely wrong asf and the younger Indian Generation admires black people without saying them Blacks!!
@@PennyMsElite BTW, Hip-Hop was largely made possible thanks to the 808s invented by Ikutaro Kakehashi who was a Japanese inventor. So we could argue that Asians paved the way for black artists to perform Hip Hop. We can keep going down this rabbit hole, which is why it's stupid to continue to argue who started what first. As long as artists pay respect to those who came before them, there should be no limitations to who can do what musically just because of their ethnicity.
You really thought you were smart when typing this childish comment?? Are fireworks asian culture? No. Is the mall of America American culture? No. This video is not about where things are ORIGINATED. If you thought so you're on the wrong video.
@FLOWER Black culture utilizing beats made on computers made by whites and asians or instruments invented by whites or asians being distributed by technology created by whites and asians, as you type on a device invented by whites and asians. lol fuck right off
Scipio Africanus What does that have to do with anything @FLOWER said? No one is saying that other races can’t use hip-hop, but that type of music is still apart of black American culture.
franco abella they was never saying that asian people can’t do black culture, or that black people cant do asian culture. The big part is to tell the difference of appropriation or appreciation
Ms. Elite wow really coming out here with the shit comments. When have Asians taken from blacks exactly? And it’s not just Wu Tang btw. Asian culture has been a part of hip hop for a while. Most notably Wu Tang was heavily inspired by Chinese films. But there are plenty of examples like Takashi Murakami designing some of Kanye’s most iconic album covers to contemporary songs like Stir Fry or Chun-Li. Asian culture has always been a part of hip hop.
@@carrotcake6572 hip hop is a separate identity on it's own. The early real hip hop art was created and influenced by the Black culture and that only. Asian culture became associated with hip hop and was accepted by some hip hop artist when asians began to show a liking for the Black culture and hip hop. We didn't create this culture with the Asians, we opened our culture to them and other different demographics. Don't get it twisted.
@@carrotcake6572 😂asian culture has always been apart of hip hop, ur not serious right.. hip hop and the forming of black culture directly was immigrated and developed from Caribbean culture plenty of years prior. Do some research before u say painfully ignorant and stupid things
@@lovelylittlegirl3332 I never said they were intertwined? Like what? But to assume that Asian culture hasn’t affects hip hop, starting in the early 90s is just ignorant go back and reread
insinuating someone who isn't black and raps is appropriating culture, is like telling anyone who learns to play the violin (an italian instrument) is stealing someone's culture. It's not like she's darkening her skin like ariana grande.
so its about how you look ? if black girls like beyonce are making themselves whitier , and ariana is making herself more black, they both must stop appropriating ? do you think such legislation will pass the congress ?
Except white folks force their culture as the standard of all cultures onto others. So kinda hard trying to appropriate a culture that the folks want you to assimilate to in the first place.
@FLOWER I am Japanese Black, I feel it is important for hip-hop to touch many lives so that the world can communicate through their stories and have an understanding
Comment section doesn't understand what cultural appropriation is. If Asian ppl didn't look downon or find offence to rap and the image of black people then there would be no issues with appropriation, it would be plain admiration. Unfortunately there is a huge problem with the way Asians treat and see black people so to turn around and emulate while profiting from the same art you discriminate against is appropriation. Everyone should be able to express themselves, no one likes a hypocrite. So if historically Asians treat black people as lower than or ghetto for rapping, why would it be acceptable for them to do it? The point of appropriation comments are not in hopes to get one community to stop copying the other. It's in efforts to bring to light the discrimination that happens.
You know how stupid that would be if everytime a human created something that their the only one who can use it. Hahahaha that would be laim as hell!!!!
ryan H. How about you watch the whole video with no skips, full ears on, and try to see the point of views and main statements. THEN come back and comment
It is if identity politics is your coin of choice. They insist they are oppressed (and the oppressed must have an oppressor). It is cultural marxism with a veneer of racism.
Chelly D. Lmao I lived in Asia too😂😂😂😂 I lived in China for 2 in a half years and the people there that I met disrespected black people but always do styles that were made by them. I’m SPEAKING ON MY EXPERIENCE
I don’t think it’s culture swopping I think it’s culture mixing and or influencing, as black folks we have loved Asian culture and have infused Asian culture into our own so i find it dope that Asians are in love with our culture and respect it and want to be apart of it and infuse it into their own🤷🏾♂️.
You mean like your red lipstick and makeup that the Chinese were applying before anyone else? You going to stop your racism anytime soon...? Didn't think so.
Besides Wu Tang Klan. How has asian culture impacted Hip Hop? It hasn't. Truth be told. I see nothing wrong with both groups enjoying each other's culture. To the food, music to everything. People are just too sensitive nowadays and fighting each other over senseless bullshit.
Leo they stated that in the video. For example, when they talked about the music festivals and showed the female with the hand fan with ancient asian females on it. Or, when they showed and mentioned nicki Minaj’s “Chun-Li” era
To all my Asian brothers and sisters in the Rap and Hip-hop music industry keep doing your thing and let's all support each other and it shouldn't matter what country you're from. I'ma say this as an Black American living in the United States Asians has always been side by side with Black Americans since the early 1970s of Rap and Hip-Hop so in other words We Love and Appreciate the Asian culture, music, fashion, style, films, food, history and tradition and they Love and Appreciate our music, fashion, style, history, culture, food, films and tradition as well. Vice Asia stop making this beautiful Harmony between Black Americans from the United States and Asians from Asia an issue about Cultural Appropriation even though we as Black Americans and Africans has been making music and has been getting along with our Asian brothers and sisters for a very,very, very long time. It's Cultural Exchange, They Love and Appreciate our Music, Style and Fashion and We Love and Appreciate their Music, Style and Fashion. Periodt 😒
Hip hop or hip-hop is a culture and art movement that was created by African Americans, Latino Americans and Caribbean Americans in the Bronx, New York City. The origin of the name is often disputed. It is also argued as to whether hip hop started in the South or West Bronx.[1][2][3][4][5] While the term hip hop is often used to refer exclusively to hip hop music (including rap),[6] hip hop is characterized by four key elements: "rapping" (also called MCing or emceeing), a rhythmic vocal rhyming style (orality); DJing (and turntablism), which is the practice of making music with record players and DJ mixers (aural/sound and music creation); b-boying/b-girling/breakdancing (movement/dance); and graffiti.[7][2][8][9][10] Other elements are: hip hop culture and historical knowledge of the movement (intellectual/philosophical); beatboxing, a percussive vocal style; street entrepreneurship; hip hop language; and hip hop fashion and style, among others.[11][12][13] The fifth element, although debated, is commonly considered either street knowledge, hip hop fashion, or beatboxing.[2][7] The Bronx hip hop scene emerged in the mid-1970s from neighborhood block parties thrown by the Black Spades, an African American group that has been described as being a gang, a club, and a music group. Brother-sister duo DJ Kool Herc, and Cindy Campbell additionally hosted DJ parties in the Bronx and are credited for the rise in the genre.[14] Hip hop culture has spread to both urban and suburban communities throughout the United States and subsequently the world.[15] These elements were adapted and developed considerably, particularly as the art forms spread to new continents and merged with local styles in the 1990s and subsequent decades. Even as the movement continues to expand globally and explore myriad styles and art forms, including hip hop theater and hip hop film, the four foundational elements provide coherence and a strong foundation for hip hop culture.[2] Hip hop is simultaneously a new and old phenomenon; the importance of sampling tracks, beats, and basslines from old records to the art form means that much of the culture has revolved around the idea of updating classic recordings, attitudes, and experiences for modern audiences. Sampling older culture and reusing it in a new context or a new format is called "flipping" in hip hop culture.[16] Hip hop music follows in the footsteps of earlier African-American-rooted and Latino musical genres such as blues, jazz, rag-time, funk, salsa, and disco to become one of the most practiced genres worldwide. In the 2000s, with the rise of new media platforms such as online music streaming services, fans discovered and downloaded or streamed hip hop music through social networking sites beginning with Blackplanet & Myspace, as well as from websites like RUclips, Worldstarhiphop, SoundCloud, and Spotify.[17][18][19]
lol most of y'all need to actually watch the video before getting all up in arms about the title alone. if you actually watch the video, you'll see they didn't come to the conclusion that it's "appropriation". they basically said there's a lot of gray area.
BEFORE POSTING SOMETHING HATEFUL READ THIS: I see most of my brothers here saying Asians discriminate Black Community I wanna that they are wrong ASF and as an Indian I say the younger generation here admires "ur" culture they listen to ur music respect it and try to do the same this ain't no fucking Cultural Appropriation!! There are dickheads in each and every community be it Asians, White or Black or Middle East or any other fucking part of the world (I HATE TAKING NAMES LIKE THIS, asian, black, white, etc SORRY) and we ourselves have fought against discrimination and I can surely say one Thing that THE YOUNGER GENERATION COMING WILL BE FAR BETTER THAN THE PREVIOUS ONES and I say as member of it because we build new tommorow forgetting the blunders of past
I don't appreciate all the people in the comment section trying to tell Black people how to feel. It's our culture first of all. And secondly, if Asians weren't racist to Black and darker skinned people this wouldn't be a problem in the first place. You can't want to be apart of our culture yet hate our skin colour. It's just stupid. So many people in the comment section being racist and ignorant it's so annoying. Nobody has a problem with Asians in hiphop. The problem is Asians or any other demographic in hiphop acting as if they created the art or using it just to get clout. Don't get me started with those "hip hop was started by the Chinese" arguments. Hip hop is a separate identity on it's own. The early real hip hop art was created and influenced by the Black culture and that only. Asian culture became associated with hip hop and was accepted by some hip hop artist when asians began to show a liking for the Black culture and hip hop. We didn't create this culture with the Asians, we opened our culture to them and other different demographics. Don't get it twisted. So many of you are so damn pressed you're missing the whole point of the documentary. Where in God's green earth did you hear them say Asians can't do hip hop ik this documentary. So many triggered racists and bigots🙄
Its not an issue with other races trying to make music, its what they're making music about. Dont rap about the hood if u not from there, dont rap about guns or drugs if it wasnt part of your everyday life, its that simple. Rap about what u know and been thru
@@Goldenxbih I'm sorry if that was offensive for you. Just my curiosity, why do you think you can't write imaginary or fictional lyrics on RAP? Isn't being creative is harmless?
@@littlestar1101 they definitely can be fictional, but at the end of th day it’s wrong to rap about being “hood” or having traditional black experiences if ur not black. that’s because you don’t have that experience and understanding that comes from the lifestyle. the most common rule of thumb in any type of writing is to write about your own life experiences and what you know
I appreciate this interviewer's balanced approach to this topic. ❤️ I hope that, if resect, authenticity, and allyship are present within a case of cultural inspiration, cultural appreciation can be achieved.
Hip Hop now a-days reminds me of when magic cards came out in the 90’s, at first it was only the cool kids that had them, but a year later after the fad had past only the nerds were playing it...
Just ask urself: would it be ‘appreciation’ of Chinese culture if i adapted a Chinese accent, dressed in what i considered to be authentic Chinese garb and switched my accent up whenever it suited me best? ESPECIALLY if i come from a culture that hates Chinese people because of stereotypes? Would that be appropriate? Because like Awkwafina, ima change my name to Joon-Shee-Dat-Ho and start speaking in a chinese accent, and behave like a caricature of Chinese folk
Why is it cultural appropiation if this asian girl wants to rap, but it's not if we have rapers like Eminem Logic and niki minaj?? Tbh i personally feel like cultural appropiation is bullshit most of the times
I mean i am korean, i grew up in the slumps of Paris, St. Denis. Yall all be saying when Wu Tang it s fine but when this girl took it from the afro community it s vulturing, i mean... yes.... bcs her songs are wack.
Cultural appropriation by definition is an oppressive culture taking from the oppressed minority culture. Asians and African cultures have no long history of oppressing the other. This topic is like trying to point a finger at two cultures that actually understand this. Ask instead who is using this topic as an opportunity to divide two cultures who have way more similarities than differences?
@@GarboHistory the point is to attract "sjw" types with the title, and then use the video itself to change their perspective. it's a good thing honestly.
She said ling ling is the equivalent to saying the nigga... 🤨 Ain't nobody was hung, raped, tarred and feathered over the name ling ling tho.. why🤦🏿♂️
It is ok to borrow a great part of a community's culture. What I don't like about asian KPop music industry's racism. They prefer light skinned girl than darker or a black person when they are borrowing something from another culture.
Actually rap culture was appropriated from country music if we want to take this further. Every music culture can be derived or take inspiration from others. People don't need to be told they can't draw inspiration from something like this video is suggesting.
@@hyunlee5356 but you Asians are very prejudiced towards black people and then trying to say hip hop is a form of art to you that's why I have a problem with that
I feel like most of you in the comments are getting cultural appropriation confused with cultural appreciation. For example; Kim Kardasian APPROPRIATES black culture by making profits from black culture and doesn't give credit to that and borderline fetishizes black people whereas I feel like the rise of asian rappers are rapping about their personal experience in society but they always give credit to hip hop and rap artists who gave them the space to do so. Also, with black people in hip hop and rap they also gave credit to the asian culture that they used in their music. As long as others are giving credit where credit is due, I feel like we shouldn't be gatekeepers for who can appreciate our (black) culture.
It’s so rare for Hmong people to even express themselves in this way. Kudos to you. Btw Nicki doesn’t look like the typical Asian but she has Japanese ancestry. 👀
She really does though. She looks blasian bc she has Asian roots however I can’t begin to say whether she borrows from the right culture when it comes to Asian culture bc Asian is such a blanket term and there are many different regions with different cultures and different views.
There is no such thing as cultural appropriation...learning from and sharing various forms of culture has been done since the beginning of time and is the highest form of flattery, theres a word for it...it's called art...it's literally how every culture has evolved, by learning and sharing with others..of course vice would take the sharing of culture and art and try to make a problem where none exists
There is such thing as cultural appropriation. If one grew up in Detroit, then no it's not. But if some Asians just randomly have cornrows, talks in a blaccent, darkens their skin, stealing from black creators and saying the n word. THAT is cultural appropriation
Hip-Hop is a UNIVERSAL culture, there is no cultural appropriation. That fact Hip-Hop is highly active in all parts of the globe from Europe, Latin America and even Oceania. If The Wu-Tang Clan and adopt Asian culture as their musical theme, why can't Asians do it with rap music?
These comments are overwhelming full of closed minded individuals who already made their mind up. Of course some people's definitions of culture appropriation evenni find silly but what i as well as many others see it as is often ignored and overlooked because they want to look at the irrational people's definitions. They do this so that they can continue to produce their own narrative and call us hypocrites for not being cool with culture appropriation. There is a difference between those that wear something because they like it and those that weaf something to help their performance of pretending to be of that race or culture when they are not in any way. Wutang never pretended to be of asuan culture and brought up asian culture on several occasions. That us not what culture appropriation is. Many korean artists "put on" when doing hip hop for example. Rather than make the music and be themselves. Doing the music is not the problem. Wearing whatever because they find it cute is not the problem. The ones that have copied mannerisms, attitude, vernacular, style, etc...to perpetrate stereotypes theyve seen in media is the problem. Be yourself and enjoy things. Storytelling is hiphop, not fairytaling.
Ok I’m not saying she’s culturally appropriating,, but her argument of having grown up in Detroit in a predominantly black community doesn’t check out. Just because she grew up in the hood doesn’t mean she’s experienced the cultural setbacks of having black skin. I’m just saying :0 ALSO it really bothered me when she compared “ling ling” to the n word. The n word stems directly from a painful history, and when people back then used to say it they meant it in a way that was worse than spitting on someone. When she said that I realized that she probably hasn’t spent much time “learning about the culture”
The double standards with appropriation is so stupid I cant even. If you don’t let people try new things from another culture then how you expect us to appreciate each other and expand our knowledge of each other.. Dumb af.
Most Black Americans don't follow or take from asian culture. People keep bringing up celebrities who get paid to do "exotic fashion" and wu tang clan from the 90's who gave multiple shoutouts to Chinese. Hip Hop is Black American culture before anything else period.
It’s not about saying Asian people shouldn’t rap. Hip hop is all about authenticity. Real hip hop at least. If an Asian girl from Orange County gets behind the mic and starts rapping about the hood, and guns, and using the n-word, it’s clear that she doesn’t respect the art form, but more so is just fascinated by its swagger, popularity, and is performing what she thinks it is. No one accuses Eminem of cultural appropriation. He grew up in Detroit, did underground rap battles to cement his place in the genre. He didn’t rap about gang culture or use the n word. He rapped about his dysfunctional family, goofy shit that was on his mind. If your Asian and authentic....go ahead. But if your performing what you think blackness/hip hop is, that’s when I have a problem.
Briana Tippens Took a while to scroll down and find an evenly measured comment. Plenty of ways to respect the music we love. What do you think of black artists that rap about a hard life they didn’t live ie Pusha T and his fake cocaine selling, Rick Ross w his past as a correctional officer?
Lovely commentary.❤️
Well said!
@@adlanhaziq If your going to rap something, own it. Don't lie and make a false image of yourself, because they're are kids that are actually from the hood and go through the things you say in your music that look up yo you. Just be honest about what you represent. That's the problem.
Hmmm you make a lot of judgements about other people without knowing anything about them...There is no such thing as cultural appropriation...learning from and sharing various forms of culture has been done since the beginning of time and is the highest form of flattery, theres a word for it...it's called art...it's literally how every culture has evolved, by learning and sharing with others..of course vice would take the sharing of culture and art and try to make a problem where none exists
It’s all about respect. You can appreciate and participate in another person’s culture without appropriating it.
@Kimora Harris Lmfao just because the public think the black person does is "ghetto and ratchet" doesn't mean all other races ppl think like that?? And it's not the Asian rappers' fault either. You also stated "have permission and give credit"?? How tf does that make any goddamn sense?? How is it even possible ask the whole black community to ask "permission" and "give credit"?? So if we are using English as a language and we did not asked for permission from the British and did not give credit to them,does that mean all of us here are cultural appropriating them too? The hypocrisy lmao 💀 Why can't y'all just stop sending hate and let people like and enjoy and appreciate other cultures in whatever ways they wanted?
@@E-wall_607 Appropriation is taking something unique about a minority culture by a more privileged culture and using it for your own benefit. "Benefit" is the key word here. If that's what's happening, then it's appropriation. Nothing else you are saying here matters.
@Ho Chi Minh White people did not create or even start country music. What an ignorant thing to even apply.
Stop being crybaby woketards!
Islamic isn't a culture it's a religion I'm Eastern Asian and Muslim and culture appropriation is fake I laugh at woketards trying to be culture elitists.
@@E-wall_607 how is it hate when it LITERALLY comes from black culture????????????? One about the British bs, both America and the Uk spoke English so idrk what was happening in your head when you were trying to comment. It's hard arguing with a smart person but it's nearly impossible to try to get a dumb mf to understand.
Early Black rappers mentioned how the Hip Hop movement was inspired by 1970s Chinese kungfu films like Bruce Lee and Gordon Liu
Is Hop Hop cultural appropriation?
Not really.. One of the defining points is whether I consider something "cultural appropriation" or not is if there is a genuine level of admiration & respect involved toward the artform *AND* the creators/originators of said artform.
We all know how most Asian cultures (especially East Asian) view American "black culture" & treat black folks in general, sooooo...
@@retiredtidepodeater3339 It goes both ways: www.buzzfeed.com/hnigatu/dumb-rap-lyrics-about-asian-people
There are dicks in every culture and there are certainly plenty of black rappers who use racist terminology about Asians rather than showing a "genuine level of admiration & respect" like you're claiming. You obviously didn't watch this video and hold a double standard.
@@retiredtidepodeater3339 you wrong asf I always see u ppl saying Asians discriminate against black, there are some asshole evrywhere even in black society, I as an Indian think that u are purely wrong asf and the younger Indian Generation admires black people without saying them Blacks!!
Where are y'all getting this info??? Hip Hop was created to stop teenage violence in black NYC neighborhood s.
@@ujjwaltyagi4667 Who is you people? Look like you're proving Cameron J point
Is Asian rap cultural appropriation? Let's start by asking the Wu-Tang Clan.
Exactly, it's ok if Wu Tang did it, but vis versa it's wrong?
@@PennyMsElite BTW, Hip-Hop was largely made possible thanks to the 808s invented by Ikutaro Kakehashi who was a Japanese inventor. So we could argue that Asians paved the way for black artists to perform Hip Hop. We can keep going down this rabbit hole, which is why it's stupid to continue to argue who started what first. As long as artists pay respect to those who came before them, there should be no limitations to who can do what musically just because of their ethnicity.
@@jimmymckinney5496 Your wrong
@@mardeleinec6141 how is he wrong. The drum machine that born hip hop is an invention of Japan.
@@jimmymckinney5496 ummmmm you sound very off man sorry.
You DO know fireworks was cultural Chinese.....so shooting fireworks is culturally appropriating Chinese culture....
Ha I love this.
Lmao yup 💯 - this cultural appropriation arguments are SO subjective. It’s easy to go down the proverbial rabbit hole into ridiculousness.
It's so fucking dumb to argue about this shit
You really thought you were smart when typing this childish comment?? Are fireworks asian culture? No. Is the mall of America American culture? No. This video is not about where things are ORIGINATED. If you thought so you're on the wrong video.
Someone doesn't understand what culture appropriation is....
Our society shares. Our cultures infuse.
I think culture isnt associated with race, but rather location
@FLOWER Black culture utilizing beats made on computers made by whites and asians or instruments invented by whites or asians being distributed by technology created by whites and asians, as you type on a device invented by whites and asians. lol fuck right off
Real shh..
Obviously it's both, anyone saying otherwise has an agenda or is completely ignorant.
@@TrollinFromFlask WHOA umping to a conclusion is what I'm saying.
Scipio Africanus What does that have to do with anything @FLOWER said? No one is saying that other races can’t use hip-hop, but that type of music is still apart of black American culture.
I mean if black people can have a rap group named wu tang clan asian people should have rap too.
franco abella they was never saying that asian people can’t do black culture, or that black people cant do asian culture. The big part is to tell the difference of appropriation or appreciation
Ms. Elite wow really coming out here with the shit comments. When have Asians taken from blacks exactly? And it’s not just Wu Tang btw. Asian culture has been a part of hip hop for a while. Most notably Wu Tang was heavily inspired by Chinese films. But there are plenty of examples like Takashi Murakami designing some of Kanye’s most iconic album covers to contemporary songs like Stir Fry or Chun-Li. Asian culture has always been a part of hip hop.
@@carrotcake6572 hip hop is a separate identity on it's own. The early real hip hop art was created and influenced by the Black culture and that only. Asian culture became associated with hip hop and was accepted by some hip hop artist when asians began to show a liking for the Black culture and hip hop. We didn't create this culture with the Asians, we opened our culture to them and other different demographics. Don't get it twisted.
@@carrotcake6572 😂asian culture has always been apart of hip hop, ur not serious right.. hip hop and the forming of black culture directly was immigrated and developed from Caribbean culture plenty of years prior. Do some research before u say painfully ignorant and stupid things
@@lovelylittlegirl3332 I never said they were intertwined? Like what? But to assume that Asian culture hasn’t affects hip hop, starting in the early 90s is just ignorant go back and reread
insinuating someone who isn't black and raps is appropriating culture, is like telling anyone who learns to play the violin (an italian instrument) is stealing someone's culture. It's not like she's darkening her skin like ariana grande.
so its about how you look ? if black girls like beyonce are making themselves whitier , and ariana is making herself more black, they both must stop appropriating ? do you think such legislation will pass the congress ?
Except white folks force their culture as the standard of all cultures onto others. So kinda hard trying to appropriate a culture that the folks want you to assimilate to in the first place.
Are you stupid
Ariana is Italian. She’s naturally brown. Have you never seen Italians?
@@Sergio-fu7mv italians arent "brown". they spicy white, so yeah, white. gtfo with that bs
I thought rap was a way of expression therefore anyone can do it ? Therefore no culture appropriation?
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@@KenpachiSesshomaru Jay Park is the best
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@FLOWER I am Japanese Black, I feel it is important for hip-hop to touch many lives so that the world can communicate through their stories and have an understanding
@The Blood Of Ogun #AlphaBlack #B1 top 4 least racist countries are Asian countries. worldpopulationreview.com/countries/least-racist-countries/
Oh god save me from PC culture
god didn't listen today :(
- Colonizer
@Alex Alternativlos ohhhhh them white pissed!
y'all are so butthurt over something that got noting to do with pc, I have to laugh
you can't lmao
Comment section doesn't understand what cultural appropriation is.
If Asian ppl didn't look downon or find offence to rap and the image of black people then there would be no issues with appropriation, it would be plain admiration. Unfortunately there is a huge problem with the way Asians treat and see black people so to turn around and emulate while profiting from the same art you discriminate against is appropriation. Everyone should be able to express themselves, no one likes a hypocrite. So if historically Asians treat black people as lower than or ghetto for rapping, why would it be acceptable for them to do it?
The point of appropriation comments are not in hopes to get one community to stop copying the other. It's in efforts to bring to light the discrimination that happens.
Sooo true I'm Asian btw some Asia like to copy black but don't wanna be black
You know how stupid that would be if everytime a human created something that their the only one who can use it. Hahahaha that would be laim as hell!!!!
I dont think you've actually seen the video....
ryan H. True
@@MirceSll you have physic mind powers, remember with great power comes great responsibility..
ryan H. How about you watch the whole video with no skips, full ears on, and try to see the point of views and main statements. THEN come back and comment
@@hyunlee5356 ok I will
culture appropriation? Seriously? If you import good traits from other cultures this is deemed negatively?
It is if identity politics is your coin of choice. They insist they are oppressed (and the oppressed must have an oppressor).
It is cultural marxism with a veneer of racism.
So Conrows are ‘traits’ now?
short answer: no
stop making problems that weren't problems in the first place. it's disgusting Vice.
Chelly D. These things were ALWAYS A Problem. Were u under a rock ?
@@hyunlee5356 I lived in Asia u dumb fuck, it was never a problem here. everyone appreciated all types of music and it wasn't a problem
@@hyunlee5356 you've been brainwashed
@@hyunlee5356 My mother continent, ASIA is culture appropriating a lot then lol
Chelly D. Lmao I lived in Asia too😂😂😂😂 I lived in China for 2 in a half years and the people there that I met disrespected black people but always do styles that were made by them. I’m SPEAKING ON MY EXPERIENCE
I don’t think it’s culture swopping I think it’s culture mixing and or influencing, as black folks we have loved Asian culture and have infused Asian culture into our own so i find it dope that Asians are in love with our culture and respect it and want to be apart of it and infuse it into their own🤷🏾♂️.
What from Asia has been infused into black culture?
Well said....respects
*Woke vs Hypocrisy* basically what Culture Appropriation is.
It’s fine that she’s rapping, but she admitted that she does the hair for the “look” she could rap without the braids
You mean like your red lipstick and makeup that the Chinese were applying before anyone else?
You going to stop your racism anytime soon...?
Didn't think so.
@@strangelee4400 Good shit, slap that racist ass and leave a mark for days.
I hope you don't wear any weave of any kind. Especially the hair from Asian countries.
You're gonna stop wearing suits since those were first made in europe then
@@funkle2645 stfu bandwagon
americans definitely have taken a lot from asian culture too just sayin hiphop culture aint apart from that either
Besides Wu Tang Klan. How has asian culture impacted Hip Hop? It hasn't. Truth be told. I see nothing wrong with both groups enjoying each other's culture. To the food, music to everything. People are just too sensitive nowadays and fighting each other over senseless bullshit.
John Chaser imagine thinking that its not because of an ignorant mind. Could never be me
Leo they stated that in the video. For example, when they talked about the music festivals and showed the female with the hand fan with ancient asian females on it. Or, when they showed and mentioned nicki Minaj’s “Chun-Li” era
@@charlesspeaksthetruth4334 quite simply, the drum machine are Japanese, and without these Japanese drum machine, Hip hop will never exist.
@@thastayapongsak4422 hip hop started in new York on record players 808s didn't show up till the 80s
To all my Asian brothers and sisters in the Rap and Hip-hop music industry keep doing your thing and let's all support each other and it shouldn't matter what country you're from. I'ma say this as an Black American living in the United States Asians has always been side by side with Black Americans since the early 1970s of Rap and Hip-Hop so in other words We Love and Appreciate the Asian culture, music, fashion, style, films, food, history and tradition and they Love and Appreciate our music, fashion, style, history, culture, food, films and tradition as well. Vice Asia stop making this beautiful Harmony between Black Americans from the United States and Asians from Asia an issue about Cultural Appropriation even though we as Black Americans and Africans has been making music and has been getting along with our Asian brothers and sisters for a very,very, very long time. It's Cultural Exchange, They Love and Appreciate our Music, Style and Fashion and We Love and Appreciate their Music, Style and Fashion. Periodt 😒
Now go over to their countries and say that. Black people are not accepted by Asia never have been.
Cultural appreciation
Much better, cultural appropriation is still bad though.
Hip hop or hip-hop is a culture and art movement that was created by African Americans, Latino Americans and Caribbean Americans in the Bronx, New York City. The origin of the name is often disputed. It is also argued as to whether hip hop started in the South or West Bronx.[1][2][3][4][5] While the term hip hop is often used to refer exclusively to hip hop music (including rap),[6] hip hop is characterized by four key elements: "rapping" (also called MCing or emceeing), a rhythmic vocal rhyming style (orality); DJing (and turntablism), which is the practice of making music with record players and DJ mixers (aural/sound and music creation); b-boying/b-girling/breakdancing (movement/dance); and graffiti.[7][2][8][9][10] Other elements are: hip hop culture and historical knowledge of the movement (intellectual/philosophical); beatboxing, a percussive vocal style; street entrepreneurship; hip hop language; and hip hop fashion and style, among others.[11][12][13] The fifth element, although debated, is commonly considered either street knowledge, hip hop fashion, or beatboxing.[2][7]
The Bronx hip hop scene emerged in the mid-1970s from neighborhood block parties thrown by the Black Spades, an African American group that has been described as being a gang, a club, and a music group. Brother-sister duo DJ Kool Herc, and Cindy Campbell additionally hosted DJ parties in the Bronx and are credited for the rise in the genre.[14] Hip hop culture has spread to both urban and suburban communities throughout the United States and subsequently the world.[15] These elements were adapted and developed considerably, particularly as the art forms spread to new continents and merged with local styles in the 1990s and subsequent decades. Even as the movement continues to expand globally and explore myriad styles and art forms, including hip hop theater and hip hop film, the four foundational elements provide coherence and a strong foundation for hip hop culture.[2] Hip hop is simultaneously a new and old phenomenon; the importance of sampling tracks, beats, and basslines from old records to the art form means that much of the culture has revolved around the idea of updating classic recordings, attitudes, and experiences for modern audiences. Sampling older culture and reusing it in a new context or a new format is called "flipping" in hip hop culture.[16] Hip hop music follows in the footsteps of earlier African-American-rooted and Latino musical genres such as blues, jazz, rag-time, funk, salsa, and disco to become one of the most practiced genres worldwide.
In the 2000s, with the rise of new media platforms such as online music streaming services, fans discovered and downloaded or streamed hip hop music through social networking sites beginning with Blackplanet & Myspace, as well as from websites like RUclips, Worldstarhiphop, SoundCloud, and Spotify.[17][18][19]
I think it’s racist not to let them do rap
lol most of y'all need to actually watch the video before getting all up in arms about the title alone.
if you actually watch the video,
you'll see they didn't come to the conclusion that it's "appropriation".
they basically said there's a lot of gray area.
That's still problematic.
It makes me happy to see more Asians representation in the music industry
If you like this than go check out this story
Jay and Ted Park taking over the game ruclips.net/video/6-yqzzOOrFA/видео.html
just travel to an asian country and see the rappers there ;)
@@VittamarFasuthAkbin or just do both
@@PennyMsElite What form of music is that?
@@KenpachiSesshomaru I would also like to know
BEFORE POSTING SOMETHING HATEFUL READ THIS: I see most of my brothers here saying Asians discriminate Black Community I wanna that they are wrong ASF and as an Indian I say the younger generation here admires "ur" culture they listen to ur music respect it and try to do the same this ain't no fucking Cultural Appropriation!! There are dickheads in each and every community be it Asians, White or Black or Middle East or any other fucking part of the world (I HATE TAKING NAMES LIKE THIS, asian, black, white, etc SORRY) and we ourselves have fought against discrimination and I can surely say one Thing that THE YOUNGER GENERATION COMING WILL BE FAR BETTER THAN THE PREVIOUS ONES and I say as member of it because we build new tommorow forgetting the blunders of past
Ujjwal Tyagi love ✊🏽
Jeez, no one could find a middle ground.
Everybody should just be able to borrow from one another’s culture without fear of reprisal. Live and let live.
Yes our ancestors are useless!!!! This comment has a lot of boosting intelligence:D
I don't appreciate all the people in the comment section trying to tell Black people how to feel. It's our culture first of all. And secondly, if Asians weren't racist to Black and darker skinned people this wouldn't be a problem in the first place. You can't want to be apart of our culture yet hate our skin colour. It's just stupid. So many people in the comment section being racist and ignorant it's so annoying. Nobody has a problem with Asians in hiphop. The problem is Asians or any other demographic in hiphop acting as if they created the art or using it just to get clout. Don't get me started with those "hip hop was started by the Chinese" arguments. Hip hop is a separate identity on it's own. The early real hip hop art was created and influenced by the Black culture and that only. Asian culture became associated with hip hop and was accepted by some hip hop artist when asians began to show a liking for the Black culture and hip hop. We didn't create this culture with the Asians, we opened our culture to them and other different demographics. Don't get it twisted. So many of you are so damn pressed you're missing the whole point of the documentary. Where in God's green earth did you hear them say Asians can't do hip hop ik this documentary. So many triggered racists and bigots🙄
lovely littlegirl ikr
Braids aren't black. Ever heard of, idk, French braids, or how about Dutch braids? The celts used braids pre history.
Ugh all these HATES and NEGATIVITY... why can’t we all get along and share everything !! ??
Bc that’s not how life works. Not everything needs to be shared. Period.
Well I guess ppl need to lay off those Indian and Brazilian hair
A: You shouldn't wear braids.
B: Oh bitch, you shouldnt eat Chinese food.
Rap was not invented by black people on the contrary it started in china. It’s called 相聲 and it’s been around since the before the Ming dynasty.
loooooooooooool
Its not an issue with other races trying to make music, its what they're making music about. Dont rap about the hood if u not from there, dont rap about guns or drugs if it wasnt part of your everyday life, its that simple. Rap about what u know and been thru
Oh, so it can't be fictional lyrics?
@@littlestar1101 Did you read what he said or are you trying to get smart?
@@Goldenxbih I'm sorry if that was offensive for you. Just my curiosity, why do you think you can't write imaginary or fictional lyrics on RAP? Isn't being creative is harmless?
@@littlestar1101 they definitely can be fictional, but at the end of th day it’s wrong to rap about being “hood” or having traditional black experiences if ur not black. that’s because you don’t have that experience and understanding that comes from the lifestyle. the most common rule of thumb in any type of writing is to write about your own life experiences and what you know
I appreciate this interviewer's balanced approach to this topic. ❤️
I hope that, if resect, authenticity, and allyship are present within a case of cultural inspiration, cultural appreciation can be achieved.
I agree with you.
Hip Hop now a-days reminds me of when magic cards came out in the 90’s, at first it was only the cool kids that had them, but a year later after the fad had past only the nerds were playing it...
next step : asian country music
Is enjoying asian rap social appropriation?
this world needs more chiggas
She sounded soooo fckn verbal at the beginning
I remember when Vice was good.
Imagine looking at all of life through a politically correct lens, what a nightmare.
Shut up and yes it's tottaly racist and bias against black pepole 😒😡😡"
You will never see a asian helping a black person or being a little honest to how racist they really are"
They all think of black"s as infferior with no class or place in any asian society..
@@dexxlxpezz6181 sooo true
AYE GIRL I LOVE YOUR SWAG
Vice is on that bs again
melfoks lmao
if you actually watch the video,
you'll see they didn't come to that conclusion.
they basically said there's a lot of gray area.
If this is cultural appropriation then any black woman ever to get a weave is doin the same shit 🙄come on ppl
Explain how it’s the same
What about jazz, blues, rock and etc... appropriation of "black" music has been going on for a long time
Just ask urself: would it be ‘appreciation’ of Chinese culture if i adapted a Chinese accent, dressed in what i considered to be authentic Chinese garb and switched my accent up whenever it suited me best? ESPECIALLY if i come from a culture that hates Chinese people because of stereotypes? Would that be appropriate? Because like Awkwafina, ima change my name to Joon-Shee-Dat-Ho and start speaking in a chinese accent, and behave like a caricature of Chinese folk
TF is a cultural exchange! why is it even a thing!!! what's wrong with trying different cultures while appreciating it
Rim Oo THAT WASNT THE POINT !!! they made it clear on what they were trying to express
I’m Indian so I don’t know what to think I’m kinda on the fence about it
Why is it cultural appropiation if this asian girl wants to rap, but it's not if we have rapers like Eminem Logic and niki minaj?? Tbh i personally feel like cultural appropiation is bullshit most of the times
I mean i am korean, i grew up in the slumps of Paris, St. Denis. Yall all be saying when Wu Tang it s fine but when this girl took it from the afro community it s vulturing, i mean... yes.... bcs her songs are wack.
Cultural appropriation by definition is an oppressive culture taking from the oppressed minority culture. Asians and African cultures have no long history of oppressing the other. This topic is like trying to point a finger at two cultures that actually understand this. Ask instead who is using this topic as an opportunity to divide two cultures who have way more similarities than differences?
That’s a damn lie. Look at what China is doing to Africa.
Alot of culture all over the world braid their hair ,it a tribal thing from Africa, Asia and Native American and the Eskimo ,its history
They came they saw they copied
Vice, please stop
if you actually watch the video,
you'll see that they didn't come to that conclusion.
Even furthers my point why they should stop, they have these edgy ass titles and are pretty much like "nah lol just kidding"
@@GarboHistory the point is to attract "sjw" types with the title, and then use the video itself to change their perspective.
it's a good thing honestly.
@@GarboHistory it'll make toxic people less toxic
She said ling ling is the equivalent to saying the nigga... 🤨 Ain't nobody was hung, raped, tarred and feathered over the name ling ling tho.. why🤦🏿♂️
I am Chinese Canadian 🇨🇳🇨🇦
I kinda have a problem with her tbh and I do think she's appropriating our culture tbh
It is ok to borrow a great part of a community's culture. What I don't like about asian KPop music industry's racism. They prefer light skinned girl than darker or a black person when they are borrowing something from another culture.
They wanna embrace hip hop but not the race that invented it.
Actually rap culture was appropriated from country music if we want to take this further. Every music culture can be derived or take inspiration from others. People don't need to be told they can't draw inspiration from something like this video is suggesting.
Country music is black music.
This is a straight up lie rap music came from Disco with a breakbeat added
Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nuthing Ta F' Wit!!
She’s appreciating the culture not doing black face
Annie S no one said anything about her doing black face. You’re just reaching.
@@hyunlee5356 but you Asians are very prejudiced towards black people and then trying to say hip hop is a form of art to you that's why I have a problem with that
Culture Vultures.
Hmong first gen. You did better than most of us.
She's dope...☝🏾♥️💪🏾😎
I feel like most of you in the comments are getting cultural appropriation confused with cultural appreciation. For example; Kim Kardasian APPROPRIATES black culture by making profits from black culture and doesn't give credit to that and borderline fetishizes black people whereas I feel like the rise of asian rappers are rapping about their personal experience in society but they always give credit to hip hop and rap artists who gave them the space to do so. Also, with black people in hip hop and rap they also gave credit to the asian culture that they used in their music. As long as others are giving credit where credit is due, I feel like we shouldn't be gatekeepers for who can appreciate our (black) culture.
Everybody culturally appropriate. Different people different experiences.
Short answer, yes
I think it’s all whack... barely any hoods no authenticity.. it’s just fake.
Hiphop is more than just gangsta rap hiphop was never about hoods in the first place.
@@aakrit2005 your not black you don't know what you talking about stfu please n thank u
No, its not. Hell, even if it is, I don't care. Live you. I think doing things like this can be cool.
Then you’re disgusting
What's wrong if people admire other cultures?
I liked this vid just cuz it made me aware of a dope artist I didn't know about.
Lots of Hmong folks growing up in primarily Black & Latin communities
Wonder why we can't just get along?
If Yasuke can’t be in a fictional video game then..
Is it cultural appropriation that everyone wears suits when Beau Brummell (a white Englishman) invented the original 2 piece?
is eating Asian food cultural appropriation?
Food and culture outfits, style, and speech aren’t the same
Reupload?
Wu Tang Clan ain’t nothing to fuck wit
do youtube can take down comments?
Cultural appreciation*
Appropriation *
is aphex twin culturally appropriating robot culture?
is lil nas x culturally appropriating country culture?
Lil nas x is black, country music was made by black people, soooo that's not really a good analogy like the other one was
reupload?
SALEM MITCHELLL IS LEGIT MAGIK!!!
It’s so rare for Hmong people to even express themselves in this way. Kudos to you.
Btw Nicki doesn’t look like the typical Asian but she has Japanese ancestry. 👀
Very true
She really does though. She looks blasian bc she has Asian roots however I can’t begin to say whether she borrows from the right culture when it comes to Asian culture bc Asian is such a blanket term and there are many different regions with different cultures and different views.
There is no such thing as cultural appropriation...learning from and sharing various forms of culture has been done since the beginning of time and is the highest form of flattery, theres a word for it...it's called art...it's literally how every culture has evolved, by learning and sharing with others..of course vice would take the sharing of culture and art and try to make a problem where none exists
There is such thing as cultural appropriation. If one grew up in Detroit, then no it's not. But if some Asians just randomly have cornrows, talks in a blaccent, darkens their skin, stealing from black creators and saying the n word. THAT is cultural appropriation
“There is no such thing as racism” - ⬆
@@MonsterZeroLITE yaaa bud...room temperature iq response...try again
Hip-Hop is a UNIVERSAL culture, there is no cultural appropriation. That fact Hip-Hop is highly active in all parts of the globe from Europe, Latin America and even Oceania.
If The Wu-Tang Clan and adopt Asian culture as their musical theme, why can't Asians do it with rap music?
Wow. This is some really bad hip hop. Asian or not.
These comments are overwhelming full of closed minded individuals who already made their mind up. Of course some people's definitions of culture appropriation evenni find silly but what i as well as many others see it as is often ignored and overlooked because they want to look at the irrational people's definitions. They do this so that they can continue to produce their own narrative and call us hypocrites for not being cool with culture appropriation. There is a difference between those that wear something because they like it and those that weaf something to help their performance of pretending to be of that race or culture when they are not in any way.
Wutang never pretended to be of asuan culture and brought up asian culture on several occasions. That us not what culture appropriation is. Many korean artists "put on" when doing hip hop for example. Rather than make the music and be themselves. Doing the music is not the problem. Wearing whatever because they find it cute is not the problem. The ones that have copied mannerisms, attitude, vernacular, style, etc...to perpetrate stereotypes theyve seen in media is the problem.
Be yourself and enjoy things. Storytelling is hiphop, not fairytaling.
Ok I’m not saying she’s culturally appropriating,, but her argument of having grown up in Detroit in a predominantly black community doesn’t check out. Just because she grew up in the hood doesn’t mean she’s experienced the cultural setbacks of having black skin. I’m just saying :0
ALSO it really bothered me when she compared “ling ling” to the n word. The n word stems directly from a painful history, and when people back then used to say it they meant it in a way that was worse than spitting on someone. When she said that I realized that she probably hasn’t spent much time “learning about the culture”
Who were the first people to wear socks?? So I know who to respect and honor before I put them on in the morning.
Why is there so many dislikes?
Racist ppl mad bc they can’t use our culture for their benefit
@@Goldenxbih ok you dont have internet beacuse IT was invited by a white men , so you go to africa , you are Benefit for that no?
Let her live.
top 4 least racist countries are Asian countries. worldpopulationreview.com/countries/least-racist-countries/
The double standards with appropriation is so stupid I cant even. If you don’t let people try new things from another culture then how you expect us to appreciate each other and expand our knowledge of each other.. Dumb af.
Aye they used Pacman Viccz and Bizzy music video for this.
Hiphop is for everyone asian people can be hiphop or even in middle east too
Most Black Americans don't follow or take from asian culture. People keep bringing up celebrities who get paid to do "exotic fashion" and wu tang clan from the 90's who gave multiple shoutouts to Chinese. Hip Hop is Black American culture before anything else period.
Lets just not have any music... All genres of music are cultural appropriation then... Btw, who created music?