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This movie made me want to see more Spider-Man movies from Tobey and Andrew. Andrew's performance was really good in this movie.
Check out the movie 'Brothers' with Tobey Maguire and Jake Gyllenhaal. Great movie by those two.
There is a movie called Brothers that Tobey in, and he's amazing in it. Very sad movie ngl
I want TASM 3
@@NormanReaddis not gonna happen....
Hoping they atleast get 1 more movie with Tobey
They didn’t mention Peter’s lawyer. He’s a really good lawyer.
was so hyped when dare devil showed up, hopefully they use the same actor for punisher
@@ralphiepina0 hopefully they use the same actor for Iron Fis--nevermind
@@ralphiepina0 they are. They never canceled the shows. What happened was they had contract with Netflix and then created Disney +. Netflix got mad and when Disney said they were going to port them over and said then we will cancel them and sit on the contract until it expires keeping you from using them right away. Daredevil was up first so he is the first up to port into the MCU
@@brunomantovaneli6076 dude don't you start giving them ideas now🤢
@@ralphiepina0 daredevil? Where? I only saw some blind lawyer
I just really like that it was Tobey who told Andrew that he was amazing, and that he was the one who stopped Tom from killing someone.
He was such a dad to the other spiders it was great.
He was the Amazing Spiderman so Toby was right
True! Its nice that Tobey treats Andrew just like Tom because they are both younger than him even if Andrew technically got older. Their chemistry was so enjoyable. I hope Andrew will be in another Spiderman movie like tasm3, cuz he deserves it
You like that Toby's Spider Man had to stop Tom's from murdering someone? Tom's Spider Man is an attempted murderer and you like that? LMAO I just can't with your morons anymore. You'll like anything you're spoon fed and cheer for murderers if they tell you to.
@@retroboomer3197 so tobey killed the guy who he thought shot ben and stole bens car out of rage. you didn’t have a problem with it then, but you have one now???
@@retroboomer3197 this is one of the most moronic comments I’ve ever seen. Toby killed (or attempted to) his uncles murder, Andrew talks about at some point he stopped pulling his punches alluding to some dark shit. Even in the comics spiderman can get a little dark. At least know your shit before making such a dumb comment
When green goblin said “you know I’m something of a scientist myself” it gave me so much nostalgia
In theaters I whispered to myself !!! He said the thing! OMG he said the thing T_T
haha same! I got the nostalgia chills and started smiling like a kid ^^ (I totally thought they would mess up Goblin but Maaan can he act. Best cast in a long time :D
I bursted out laughing because of the memes.
@@SvenskSork goblin was even scarier here than SP1
That was beyond cringe for me
When Tobey asks "What's the Avengers?" with that excited face, it was comedy gold.
OMG yes. "That's great!....What is that?"
Then followed by Andrew all excited "Is that a band AREYOUINABAND?" too funny
Lol "is that a band? Are you in a band?"
yep lol
😂😂 the chemistry was amazing
Indeed
Andrew’s performance in this movie took me by surprise. He had such an on-screen presence with his comedy and charisma. The scene where he saves MJ was fantastic and truly brought his character full circle.
Watch his movies again, he specifically has always been great.
I agree, this movie really made me like his spiderman more.
The joke “Peter 3” and his delivery were the absolute icing on the cake. He really eleveated it for me I went away stunned at home much I loved watching him as Spider-Man
He always had that
too bad his real life acting is awful. No one believed him that he wasn't in this film.
But man the writers did Andrew Garfield's Spiderman a huge justice after he was deemed the worst by a lot of people - by giving him a lot of emotion and shining moments/comedy. Loved what they did - emphasizing the "Amazing" part. I was oozing a bit.
Honestly that was the biggest highlight because I tell you what, after this he was absolutely redeemed lol.
He is actually my favorite out of the 3
@@bingram2011 mine too. I loved him as Spider-Man but he was victim to bad movies
@@majinv954 his movies weren't even bad, everyone just jumped on the hate train and forgot how great of an actor Andrew was as Spidey
@@High-sewciety The main thing they have going for them is the chemistry between Andrew, Emma, and Denis Leary, the cinematography, James Horner’s and Hans Zimmers’ respective scores, and seeing new villains. But the stories, characterizations of how the villains and characters were treated weren’t handle well at all.
If you noticed Tobey Spider-Man never let the other 2 Spider-Men beat themselves up. He’s was used to doubting himself, so he knows to give his younger multi version of himself confidence
Which is hilarious because the Tobey fanboys are the exact opposite of what Tobey's Spidey is depicted as.
@@ozairchishti1264 I have to disagree
The interaction between our heroes in this movie was so wholesome.......
“You are AMAZING”
…
It’s funny because he says it to Garfield who played “The (Amazing) Spider-Man”
@@syzionaurifex5383 it’s true
Andrew Garfield's performance was amazing. You can see the emotions on his face.
agreed
he was having the time of his god damn life and it was great to witness.
I think this movie cemented my view of the different Spider-Man actors. Tom Holland might be the best blend of "Peter Parker" and "Spider-Man" but Andrew felt the closest to "Spider-Man". His need to ask Tobey about his webs, "I love you guys", "PETER THREEEE!" just gave me classic Spider-Man vibes. Tobey's wise but humble persona definitely felt more like modern Peter Parker.
He is not in the movie, that's a photoshop
the moment he says thank you and I love you guys you can feel that this is coming out of him as Andrew, not Peter.
“Peter, too weak to send me home to die”
“No. I just wanted to kill you myself”
*smiles* “atta boy”
Willem Dafoe stole the show
Guess you missed the part where mr ditkovich told peter to pay rent on time in the last scene.
Andrew stole the show
Willem Dafoe stole Spider-Man's soul with that brutal piledriver
@@matthewkuhl79 Insult raimi all you want but he is pretty much the reason anyone cares about more light hearted superhero movies. It was mostly brooding batmans before that.
This movie was honestly a treat. So much good chemistry and vindication for Andrew's Spider Man.
Him saving MJ and Tobey telling him that he was amazing was something I didn't know I needed. It really was a treat to watch.
Seeing Tobey act like the Older Brother for them all and be the one with the most wisdom and experience. Tom being the still young kid brother of the 3. It was perfect, really glad I went out and saw this movie.
I think that “amazing” line was a great joke for the audience too, considering Andrew’s movies were the only ones titled “The Amazing Spiderman”
Avengers will still remember Tom's Spiderman though but not the Peter Parker right?
@@MusicLuv80 yeah seems like it because happy still remembered spiderman but not peter
@@edulric that is true ~
The scene where Andrew Garfield saves MJ was incredibly well done. The redemption he received and felt was incredibly deep for a super hero movie.
The CGI was pretty bad there but yes amazing indeed
@Remy LaCroix YO are you thee Remy LaCroix lol
Dude yeah when Gwen died I was like oh damn they fuggin did it! Dude definitely redeemed himself and they portrayed it perfectly
@@MegaMK13 Lmao 🤣
@@roodick85 if you know you know lol
Seeing Matt Murdock catch that brick was so hype in our movie theater. Everybody went crazy.
My theater screen was black while waiting for movie to start and Matt Murdock scene audio was playing lol.
Hulk must of thrown that brick tho
yeah, that was a good homage to the radar sense vs spider sense lore in the comics
I was the only one that noticed
He’s just a good lawyer.
This film proves Andrew was never the problem, the movies themselves were. I always walked away from an amazing Spiderman movie satisfied with his performance and this movie not only cements that but elevates him
His Spiderman was left in a dark place and never had his catharsis, this felt good
I'd say Sony was the one who fumbled the ball, fortunately Marvel got the ball and saved it. Sony got too involved and ultimately screwed up Spiderman 3 and the 2 Amazing Spiderman movies. Once Marvel got their hands on Spiderman they clearly knew how to use him.
Also Andrew had to do the I think universe 2 of spider-man the marvel one is 3 and allegedly because of the spell a universe kinda disappeared the 4th one until the end of the movie lol
Agreeded, Andrew lowkey is the best Spider-Man
I also liked him as spider-man. He felt like he could actually do parkor in real life or something. I was convinced enough as to view him as the new spider-man =). The movies as a whole wasn't "perfect" to put it nicely
Facts man Andrew got unnecessary slack for the writing and thispvie showcased the extraordinary casting of each spiderman
The ending was PERFECT. We love Spider-Man because he sacrifices his happiness for everyone else’s happiness. That original red & blue suit at the end was amazing
Yessir! The entire movie was excellent, but that ending got to me the most. That bakery scene, moving into his own place, from everything to nothing, but he does what he does and still serves the neighborhood! Ultimate sacrifice, very Spider-Man like
Precisely
The third act in general is absolutely amazing, but yeah the last scene where he moves into the shitty-ass apartment and makes his own suit was so amazing. We've seen Holland's character grow from "Iron-Man Jr" to the actual Spider-Man from the comics and yeah that was perfect.
it's still sad to think about though since he really is on his own now. But it's what he does
duuuuuude I want more spider-man swings in the winter please HOLY SHIT. Him slippin n sliding through the snow loved it. So cool. Snow allows for a LOT of dope parkour moments which is so spider-man.
Tobey and Andrew’s chemistry in this movie was adorable. The back pain scene was funny as 😂
It wasn’t that funny. A nod to a scene from Spider-Man 2
it was also a reference to when Tobey was having actual back pains during the production of Spiderman 2
@@xxprototypexx5056 yeah, he was not able to workout as intensely and thus had to have a muscle suit in Spider-Man 2 and 3.
funny thing is, he said it in the exact same way lol.
@@xxprototypexx5056 I thought he wasn't having back pain, that he was saying it to get more money and that they were thinking of having another spiderman take his rule but didn't end up happening obviously
A part I haven't seen anyone talk about was when Tobey came face to face with Otto again, they weren't enemies. They were friends it was so amazing. I cried in that scene
They mentioned that part a little bit
Man I felt great, when Otto said “you’re all grown up” almost got to me cry.
i teared up at that scene. i couldnt help it
@@ColeTrainPhenomenalcrew I was nervous that Ock would turn evil again in that moment so I couldn't enjoy it fully. I'm sure I will enjoy it a lot more on second viewing.
@@abbynormal8702 I noticed the arms was white and he had full control over them. So I was overjoyed seeing the scene but I get it, after everything we been threw plus what electro did, those thoughts of him turning are not shocking thoughts during that moment.
Sandman is actually on Dr. Strange’s side. He just wants to press the button as soon as possible and doesn’t want to risk losing his chance to go back home because Spidey was taking unnecessary risks. That’s why he attacks Spider-Man at the end. He wanted to find the box and press the button.
damn wish they would read this
I wish the movie emphasised this more. Maybe I'll catch it more when I see it again but I got a litle lost on his motivations too
@@AllThatJuice- He literally says "I don't care about anyone else, i just want to go back home" How is that confusing .?
Yeah but that contradicts his actions. The entire reason Tom Holland called Jonah J Jameson to livestream himself was so he could bait the other villains to the stature of liberty in fear that he would push the button. So all Sandman had to do was just either help Spiderman wipe out all the villains or just stayed home.
@@SuperMurray2009 but Iron Spider didn’t push the button. So Sandman just wanted it over with so he went to push it himself.
You know, in order to get it over with before someone did something like put a bomb in it and blow it the hell up?
Garfield's redemption scene really got to me too. He needed that win, as he had been carrying that weight for some time now. He felt like the least adequate of the 3 of them.
It made me also think about where each of the 3 Peter's are in their lives. Tobey is the oldest and has lived through his sacrifices and finally adjusted to them, while Andrew is still at a low point and hasn't been able to recover yet. Tom is only at the beginning with the sacrifices he has to make.
"You're gonna carry that weight."
@@jalahjava_ cowboy bebop?
@@chrisprad8325 Yup
for me, Andrew is the best Spider man, i wish they do AMS 3 and more
This is well put
“Poor Peter too weak to send me home to die”
“No I just wanna kill you myself”
“Atta boy”
This is some of the best mcu writing ever
@necropolis Marvel vs Capcom better put this exchange in the next game
It is the best line that is my favorite part
Absolutely dude
@Bloody Goodness read a book mate
@@syzionaurifex5383 you thought you ate
Man the Willem Dafoe "I'm some what of a scientist myself" line killed me. Kudos to the writers
Agreed but was much more of a fan of "Atta boy"
I was baffled and dying of laughter
Many at the theaters didnt get that joke but someone that did laughed hard at that part. I chuckled.
Yeah I laughed so hard at that especially cuz he said it with the same tone and that grin on his face
I freaking lost it when he said that. Easily my favorite line. And so perfect in the scene.
Watching this movie made me feel like a excited little boy again, growing up with the animated series and watching the Tobey Maguire movies. And of course Andrew Garfield bringing back his funny charismatic Spider-Man was a joy to see again and giving him his own redemption was so beautiful and emotional. The scene of them on the Statue of Liberty talking with each other about themselves and what happened in their own movies while their all in their OG suits has got to be my favorite scene in the whole movie, love them together, they’re such bros!
I couldn't agree more even if I tried
As soon as a certain lawyer showed up, i had a smile until the end.
“I always wanted brothers”
I love the implication of everyone forgetting Peter Parker, it's almost like a total refresh. He's making his own suit now, and he can finally grow into his own outside of Tony Stark's shadow, which has been my biggest criticism of Tom Holland's Spider-Man.
@Anoneemus Noename Spider-Man never needed other superheroes to interact with. That’s a plus, but it’s not a core feature of a good Spider-Man movie
@Anoneemus Noename You ok?
@Anoneemus Noename Daredevil
@Anoneemus Noename tldr?
Same.
In Venom: let there be carnage post credits, venom was talking about billions of years of hive knowledge across universes, then they got transported and venom looked at Peter on tv and said "that guy". So that explains it for me.
yup
Exactly ! plot holes ? We have no stinking plot holes
Exactly. The symbiote knew Toby’s Peter Parker and happened to have traveled to Tom Hardy’s universe and was able to slip in when the spell broke free cause the symbiote knew Peter all along. Makes sense to me.
@@mrpeterson619 facts. maybe the piece that broke off for tobey was from a larger asteroid or smthn, then that asteroid goes through a black hole, another universe, and now we're here
Exactly, the symbiotes have a multi universal hivemind, they know things that other versions of them know.
“Strong enough to have everything, too weak to take it.” Was such a good one liner
Goblin such a legendary
Strong enough to have it all*
@@KaNe1493 i couldn't remember it spot on, thank you.
corrected
This movie showed, that with the right material Andrew could of definitely been the best Spider-Man.
Ya that’s the biggest tragedy is I could always see a lot of great things in Andrew’s portrayal but aside from a couple isolated moments I don’t think the scripts written for those movies ever really supported him
And I do appreciate how it does allow Andrew’s Spider-Msn to have some semblance of closure and just in general a lot of the characters in his universe that never got it
Yeah he had potential but the writing went to shit. If there were a global poll on favorite Spider-Man, Toby wins with like 70% of the vote though.
@@abbynormal8702 It’s all opinions at the end of the day
Better writing would’ve made Andrew a great Spider-Man. Tobey is the GOAT tho.
He was already the best
I love the scene when the battle is over and Tom is thanking the 2 other Spider-Men for all of their help. It felt so real because Tom wouldn’t be where he is today with his success without Tobey and Andrew paving the way for him. One of my favorite scenes
It’s true Toby made his career
The Home Trilogy is MCU's Spider-Man's origin story. He had mentors, had family, but due to his irresponsible decisions (not hiding his identity that well, giving Beck the glasses, messing up Strange's spell and preventing him from sending the villains back), he hurt not only his friends, but also caused the death of his Aunt May.
The death of a close family member/responsibility speech is an absolute point and cannot be changed. It's a constant in most universes.
Peter learned in this trilogy how to handle his responsibilities as Spider-Man. I'm curious what the College Trilogy will be like.
I wonder if they’ll bring may back somehow. That mephisto thing could still happen lol albeit with different conditions since Peter and mj aren’t a thing anymore
@@TheSwooj Hopefully not
Well I mean you could literally say that about any of the characters and their stories... in any of the marvel movies... they all start somewhere in a characters history and end somewhere in a characters history, an origin story is just that
I think Zendaya is no longer gonna be MJ. Instead, they'll have the actual Mary Jane Watson for him in college.
@@Gc20570 I have some bad news for you people...at the wrap up of this entire MCU phenomenon everybody is going to come back, trust me, they'll make it happen...remember my words.
Andrew was such a highlight in this movie, I feel like every emotion he gave was genuine!
His reaction to saving MJ. I teared up.
I always felt like he was a great Spiderman. It was just his movies that sucked
This movie proved how good Andrew is as Spider-man when he has a good script to work with
This. Absolutely this.
I have always liked the Andrew's amazing spider-man, not sure why others didn't.
To be fair, andrew garfield has always been a good spider-man, just not a good peter parker.
Only showed up after half..
Actually Andrew Garfield was already good in his own movie the only thing that sucked what's the movie itself
I’m so glad they gave Andrew the save. He redeemed himself and that scene alone really had me saying who the hell is making an onion cake!?
That’s was so obvious…I would fire the writers if it didn’t happen
It was a heavy scene.
Fingers crossed we see more of Charlie Cox's daredevil, that was probably the biggest surprise for me in this movie
We definitely will
WTF?? THAT was Charlie Cox??? Holy shit...... I never watched Daredevil, I just fucking LOOOOOOVE Stardust..........
Same!
@@chanceneck8072 You should, it's miles better than this pile of garbage.
One of the few good parts of the movie.
Seeing Matt Murdock in the MCU just warmed my heart so much. I absolutely love Dare Devils run on Netflix, it made me so sad when it was cancelled right after season 3 released. The Netflix Verse has so much humanity to it, to be fair they have alot more time with these characters to truly develop and take their time but even the types of morals and stories they tell are done so well, so mature like the same Matt that fought Frank Castle on that roof top, and everything is helping Spiderman, I honestly felt like Tom Holland should be bowing to him but of course that's not how it works, hands down the biggest surprise, the theater lit up ! It was so great seeing him and it hasn't been so many years to the point where he looks old or whatnot, him catching the brick absolutely flawless. Season 3 of Daredevil was phenomenal it was completely amazing from start to finish, broke my heart when they cancelled all the shows (expect Iron Fist) but damn this had me smiling from cheek to cheek.
I was honestly more excited to know that in a way, this confirms that the Punisher and Luke Cage can now come into the MCU as well. Matt catching the brick and Tom realizing he's a super human too was fantastically delivered. Tom knows there's more to Matt but doesn't overpush it, knowing people like May and Happy will look at him differently instead of focusing on the case they're fighting with him.
I'm so mad people gloss over that. I was completely shocked at seeing him in the film and I got extremely excited.
Same, this scene was one of my favorite.
Here's something I just thought of can Sony use Daredevil and other Netflix characters?
@@exodore2000 no, only Spider-Man adjacent characters
I loved the joke about Toby’s back which was a huge issue when filming his later movies
Wait so he had actual back problems? Interesting
@@XVNRX in spiderman 1 and 2, more so 2, he starts having back problems. so it was a nice touch to add haha, him stretching before the fight.
In Spider-Man 2, when thinking he could webswing again, he shouts "I'm back I'M BACK!" he falls and says "My Back... my back."
@@XVNRX no he was losing power in SM2 then he tried again at home point but lose power again and fell and injured his back, in the movie
@@mbank3832 no
I just googled it , he has actual back problems in real life , had an injury during filming the movie sea biscuit and then in Spider-Man 2 the “my back” scene is a joke/nod to him having actual back problems
A true love letter to Spider-man. The chemistry between the spidermen was so amazing that I wish we could have gotten more, but never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined a movie like this. One of the greatest superhero movies of all time
So which is the real Spider-Man world? Can what was done with this movie be done to any say superhero movie like Superman?
@@ricogomez4020 they are all real worlds
The greatest.
This movie is better then Dark Knight
@@Morenob1 This movie has a stupid dumb plot. Which DARK KNIGHT does not have. It's like saying there are 3 Morenob worlds out there.
When Garfield’s Spider-Man saved MJ- had me in my feelings, the best moment in the movie for me
Oh yes.
Or when there's a comment on the spoiler review about redeeming Gwen's death and gets 121 likes, which is the original issue # from the source material where she dies.
One of my favorite parts of the movie was when Norman says "Well I'm something of a scientist myself" I really love how the director decided to throw in memes into the movie for fans
Me too. I LOLed ad =nd everyone else was silent in the theater. Such a great call back!
My theatre definitely got the memes they did the pointing meme too! My life is now complete
Yea when I saw this scene everyone in the cinema was laughing
i thought it was kinda cringe - it was like in The Many Saints of Newark when Uncle Junior said, "he never had the makings of a varsity athlete" - cringe and forced
BEST LINE!!!
For the confusion over why venom was sucked in, in the comics they made it that symbiotes are a hive mind that can share information and memories through the multiverse so Tom Hardy’s venom could know about Peter Parker from spiderman 3
Yup. This is the explanation
Yup. And the spell didn’t take the Symbiotes.. it was taking people “humans”. So when venom shares some of his knowledge with Eddie, it yanked Eddie and Venom was pulled for the ride. So at the end, it sent back Eddie and venom because he’s in Eddie. But the symbiote isn’t really being moved, just Eddie. So if venom dropped a piece, it didn’t have to leave. It wasn’t in Eddie.
@@myko740 I wonder who will play Spiderman in Eddie's Venom Sony universe though.
@@shadowprince4482 a reason to bring miles to live action
Or maybe they just saw his identity being revealed on TV, if remember correctly the after credits for Venom 2 showed them watching the news
My favorite scene was when tobey saved green goblin from tom about to execute him with his glider in a state of rage.
that entire part was so anxiety inducing
The acting in that moment was absolutely perfect. No dialogue. An entire conversation was had with facial expressions alone. Just...wow.
But what was the point of Tobey getting stabbed after though? Only for them to kinda just ignore it. I thought they were teasing a Tobey death but the Spider-Men just laugh it off like nothing.
@@McBurn86 Yeah, although I do believe he can survive that, he survives from explosions in close contacts and other injuries, they are superhumans. I think the point of that stab is to show peter(tom) matured, by not getting swayed by emotions and didn't try to kill him.
@@donttrustme6262 True. The best thing about Toby saving Gobby is that he couldn't do it HIS universe, but he not only saved that version of the Goblin in that universe, but he also saved his son Harry from carrying on the Goblin name. Just beautiful.
I actually rewatched the end credits for Venom 2 and Venom says that the symbiotes as a race share a hive mind across all universes. So the Symbiotes know about Peter Parker and the spell was specifically every person, so when Venom shared a bit of his knowledge with Eddy, he learned about Peter Parker being Spider-Man
That Venom is so god damn stupid I rather he stay in his own movies.
When Tom Spiderman is crying after Aunt May died and JJJ is tearing into him, one of the best scenes, the emotion is incredible.
That’s the scene that sticks out the most to me. Such a powerful scene and I love that they let that pain breathe. It wasn’t undercut by jokes or anything
@@H3llboundHero most of the film was undercut by shitty jokes, still a great film
@@SC-stonerconstruction 100% Any joke with Ned and MJ was annoying. Best parts were Andrew Garfield and Tobeys interactions
@@Nicebitoftucka *Yeah, honestly, Ned and Flash annoyed the crap out of me in this movie.*
The shot is 😍😍😍😍. Probably my fav shot from a Spider-Man movie
We all knew Tobey and Andrew were gonna be in this even when Disney kept trying to tell us otherwise. However, the way they treated them is phenomenal. I never was a fan of Andrew’s Spiderman but this movie really made me love him and say “maybe Andrew is my fave Spiderman”. This movie proves Garfield would be an amazing Spider-Man(no pun intended) under good writers.
Ive been hearing this very niche group of Spiderman fans claim The Amazing Spiderman is the best and most realistic Spiderman. Hot Take but ive been hearing it alot more lately since this movies release.
@@SuperMurray2009 Whatever they say Tobey will always be my favorite.
@@JrKdM I don't care what they say until they Fix This DAMN DOOR!!!
Maybe it’s because I find him to be the best actor out of the three but he’s the perfect Spider-Man to me. His mannerisms are so perfect for the character, even down to the way he looks when the suit is on him.
@@SuperMurray2009 the first movie is definitely underrated, but the sequel is a complete disaster.
I love how when Andrew says "I Love you guys", he(Andrew) is actually saying he loves spiderman. Since he is HUGE spiderman fan.
Yeah I could totally see his inner fanboy bleeding through, and it was so great. He really does love Spider-Man a lot
its not that deep bro. he said it coz it was written that way..
Ya.. and especially toby cause that’s the og..
@@MrBigjuggs lol nah, andrew REALLY loves spiderman.. he was crying in interviews before when he got the part
@@MrBigjuggs Andrew in real life with is a HUGE Spider-Man fan
When Andrew saved MJ I damn-near cried. It was so wonderful for him to get that win after failing to save Gwen.
He also gets emotional and it was great scene all around
Man, Dafoe was straight up TERRIFYING in this. Also, Otto was MVP in the last act. Saved all their asses TWICE.
Dude… they did the old villains SO good. Holy shit I didn’t think they would mail It 100% the way they did.
Dafoe was the perfect villain and deserved to take the lead of the villain side.
The way he was smiling as Peter kept punching was unnerving
My favorite part is when Tom’s Peter is punching him in the face and his face reverts back to scared Norman but after the next punch he’s back to green goblin
@@SandyCheeks1896 imo they only did goblin to Justice. They should have removed lizard and sandman and focussed on electro, goblin and otto.
The duality between Toby’s final fight with goblin, and toms is I think underrated. How toby frozen an realized what he was doing back in 2002 and having to help tom realize that he won’t win if he kills goblin is truly a master class scene
@@andersonbastos1110 Yup and yes
@@andersonbastos1110 BINGO 🎯. I witnessed that while watching the movie in theaters an hour and a half ago.
Although it also does maybe prove Tom ain't to be fu**ed with, he got hit full speed with a bullet train at 200 MPH, he stopped a ship from sinking, he has taken unholy amounts of damage and fell through entire floors.. and he absolutely destroyed Green Goblin who essentially was the same age and strength (script wise) as in the first Spider-Man film. Tom wiped the floor with him when Tobey struggled.. is that because Tom in that moment wanted him dead and that was the difference? Possibly. But in terms of feats of strength and durability, I don't think anyone can question Tom has been given those moments more than Tobey and Andrew.
Perhaps his spider that bit him was more potent than even Andrew and Tobey's. Idk.. it would be nice to get some clarification on whether he is actually stronger or if the Nanotech Suit gives him added durability and strength as well.
@@JayNSG0 Tom got his ass handed to him by the goblin too, tobey whooped goblins ass in the final fight too, he was moments from beating him to death before Norman begged for him to stop lol
@@askmewhosjoe6682 tom's spiderman absolutely wrecked green goblin in the final fight when he wasn't holding back and was actively trying to kill him (green goblin didn't even stand a chance), this implies that he wasn't trying to hurt green goblin in the apartment fight scene.
Can we just talk for a minute about the fight choreography, especially when the Green Goblin was smashing spiderman through the floors of the building? Was incredible.
Willam Dafoe did all his own stunts too 🤟
I thought, man thats some weak ass floors.
well i mean there isnt much fight choreography going on during that scene.. it's mostly just a quick shot and effects and they are through the floors xD
@@poopikins "most" of his own stunts
@@reffa2858 same xD all i was thinking was dem floors be weak af
I love how Tobey was the dad of the group
Chill,encouraging the most calm and accepting of the situation
Because he has been spiderman so long he has seen so much shit
It's hard to surprise him now.
Him motivating Garfield
And stopping Holland were easily highlights for me
Edit : I swear this comment had 3 likes last time I checked O.o
they all gave me a brothers vibe but thats just me
“We’ve been through so much shit, deactivated Lasers with my dick, now it’s time to blow this fucker down”
Tobey carrying the franchise on his back
Absolutely. And, from that scene where he stops MCU Peter from murdering Norman it shows that even after all these years of fighting the good fight, he hasn't lost that signature Peter Parker integrity. They absolutely nailed it with this film.
@@clairemadeinheaven me too but tobey had the chill elder brother vibe... he has been through a lot more than the other spidermen so it was great for him to be there supporting fellow spidermen.. also love the moment when he prevented tom from killing goblin because he has been through the same thing when uncle ben died
I burst out laughing with the “My Back” scene. It was great to see Tobey and Andrew again and all of those villains. I’m so glad they did this.
It reminded me of the Second movie where he fell from the roof into the cars and hes like "IM BACK!!!!! ....................................my back....my back!
I LOVED THAT SCENE
The back memes are back!
Got me sad as someone with massive back problems....
@@lordzed83 same
I love how they even addressed how everyone thought Dafoe looked more evil without a goblin mask.
Dafoe & Jamie Foxx were definitely having the most fun in there performances.
Dafoe felt like the joker, especially in the end
@@justspartan13 sadly the closest we’ll ever get to Dafoe playing the joker 💔
I was happy he smashed the mask soo damn early in the film and holy shit he was way creeper without the mask.
@@alazkaalazka6087 who knows, maybe pattinson batman will have him 🤔
I can't be the only one that got teary eyed when Tobey first makes his appearance!
Oh I did lol, so freaked lol
Same here but I still think they did him dirty in a way
For Tom Hardy’s Venom, the reason why he was pulled in was bc in Venom 2, Venom says in the post credit scene that he has knowledge from the symbionts hive mind that spans across universes meaning that Tobey Maguire’s Venom’ s knowledge of Spider-Man being Peter Parker is known to all symbiotes including Hardy’s Venom
Right. And in the Venom post credit, he also says “This guy” and licks the tv screen showing Spider-Man like he knows him.
Movie implies he was in the bar the entire trip, lol.
Still we want Tom hardy as eddie Brock
I'll have to copy your comment and paste it everywhere people are confused about venom knowing peter. You genius!
Which means if he came across Garfield’s Spiderman…
As good as Tom Holland and the rest of the cast were in this movie, Andrew Garfield was definitely the MVP for me in this movie! I felt that both Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfields end for Spider-Man were so well wrapped up and redeemed without feeling like Tom Holland was overshadowed at all! Definitely my 2021 movie of the year, and my new favorite MCU movie of all time!
The way they introduced Andrew and Tobey into the film was so good. They have Andrew come in, be a wise ass, dressed in his suit, he's Spider-Man, he takes the hype. Then, once the hype has left, they have Tobey come in, slow, calm, he's Peter Parker, it's a humble entrance. They hit you with the one two. The duality of Spider-Man. It was probably the best moment in the whole film.
Andrew didn’t do much but have his easily foreshadowed saving of MJ. Tom is the best
I didn't like The Amazing Spiderman especially Andrew's portrayal of Peter Parker. But in this though, Andrew's Spiderman and Peter Parker was great.
I agree with everything!
I was so excited to see Tobey and it was absolutely incredible to see him again.. but I gotta say. Andrew Garfield. Wow. His defeated nature and low self-esteem felt like a reflection of his franchise ultimately failing on top of being just ripped to shreds over the years. So the sheer amount of love and respect this movie gives Garfield was a class act. The way he saves MJ and the impact it had on him, that is the best moment in the entire film. Also loved how Tobey, not only the OG Spider-Man, but the OG super hero that paved the way for Marvel and all other super hero franchises to be what they are today, telling Garfield how amazing he is and that he needs to hear it and take it in.. just wow.
Tobey was not the OG super hero that paved the way for marvel, that would be Blade.
@@raymondvalasquez3992 wait really?
@@raymondvalasquez3992 sure he’s successful as well but it was truly Spider-Man which became the the superhero movie to gross over a 100 million dollars and drove home the fact that this super hero movies were awesome.
No discredit to blade he should be celebrated more.
@@raymondvalasquez3992 plz lol spiderman was far superior in the theaters
I gotta say I SQUEALED of pure joy when I saw Daredevil! I was expecting the other Spidermen cuz of rumors but DID NOT expect that! What made that moment better though was clearly most of the audience in my theater had never seen or heard of Daredevil so not many people reacted but I’m sure it got them curious.
really? because leaks and rumours of daredevil showing up where all over the place as much as the 3 spidermen xD
I watched it today and was surprised. I don’t like to read or watch gossip about a movie I’m excited to watch.
What
Overall theme of this movie just feels like Redemption. They had to redeem Tobey bc the 3rd movie was met w/ so much backlash, they had to redeem Andrew bc his entire stint as Spidey was met w criticism. They even had to redeem tom bc his best performances as Spidey werent in Hoco or FFH. And they redeemed all 3 beautifully to me
There was nothing wrong with the 3rd movie
I loved it especially andrew, he didn't have the proper conclusion as the others have in his movies but they were committed into making it right and I appreciate that so much.
Tobey's spiderman used cartoony villains with realistic heroes. This is why Andrew's spiderman is disliked. Because Andrew's spiderman is a cartoony villain with realistic martyrs. Tom's spiderman is confused like the rest of the world because of the alien threats from outer space and the multidimensional existences. Tobey's spiderman and Tom's spider is allowed to be flawed characters. Andrew's spiderman do not show any understanding about what's right or wrong, he's spiderman and that he is spiderman and is kind of a blank page on a paper. It show the difference between a good actor and a bad actor. Andrew is acting as himself and it is seen.
@@icespicefan4771 3rd was 4/10 for me
I broke inside when Andrew saved Zendaya. Knowing he couldn’t save Gwen but still had it in him to try again
Best scene in the movie
Yeah, I went “goddamnit, don’t make me cry”
Ngl I kinda cried a little when I saw that
Tobey Spiderman stopping Holland Spiderman from killing Green Goblin is more significant than people realise. Green Goblin dying from his own glider blade is basically what puts all the events in Spiderman 2 and 3 into motion including Harry's death so for him to have a chance to stop it, again even stopping him from being killed with the glider is like coming full circle for his character. I feel like that's Tobey's equivalent moment to Garfield saving MJ after failing to save Gwen.
Then he gets stabbed for it to just be for nothing 😅
William Defoe was a fucking hell of a villain like always. He can carry the film by himself. Tobey and everyone else was magnificent. 12/10 for me easily
William Defoe was fuckin perfect. However, Dr oct, was such a disappointment. He seemed like a bitch the entire movie. He was a huge let down
@@bobhotpocket1875 i was thinking he’s a bitch too until it was explained that he’s like that beacuse of the chip in his brain which makes sense.
The way he laugh when getting punched remind me of heath Ledger joker
@@bobhotpocket1875 Doc is a bitch in the comics too and in Spider-Man 2 as well. The difference between Doc and the rest of the villains outside of Sandman is that he actually redeemed himself in 2 and Otto was never evil to begin with, he was just being controlled by the arms. It was fitting for him to be the good guy here especially with the scene with Tobey.
@@casualtake1497 Dafoe deserved his turn as the Joker.
When Tobey showed up, that was one of the best moments and when he tried to stop Tom from killing Green Goblin, that was such a good moment, no words, just that look
well, he tried and failed to save osborn in the first movie
Tobey knows what avenging and forgiving someone is more than anybody else because of all the experiences he had throughout spiderman 3. Tobey Maguire stopping Tom Holland couldn’t felt any more appropriate.
Completely agree, until that pointless death fake out. Goblin stabs him and it's all dramatic... and then its just okay he's still good, no biggie. It really undercuts that moment of him stopping Tom for me. Like either commit to it and kill him or just don't do it at all. That's the one and only thing I actively dislike in the movie.
@@theS0UND_1 I still feel like his spider-sense should have gone off. Makes no sense
Tried? He did
Peter’s choice to finally go through that selfless act of having everyone forget him is the lesson. When Strange tells him the results he just simply replies “I know”. He understands now that with great power comes great responsibility
And with great fk ups, comes great amnesia lol
Just wait til Scarlet Witch gets going
You know what I liked about this movie?
-there was a lot at stake.
-just simply the Multiverse being involved and Dr Strange.
-there almost was no highschool bullshit involved (which I like ).
-Ofcourse Tobey and Andrew too.
-brutal fight scenes.
I found the film quite overwhelming. I didn't expect to be so emotional. Seeing the other Spideys, particularly Toby opened up a whole pocket of my memories from childhood. What a film.
I dont understand why the theatre started clapping for andrew. But when Tobey came through, I damn near cried.
If you're overwhelmed by marvel films you must not watch many movies.
@@LEXICON-DEVIL it's a little something called nostalgia.
@@jagjitsinghbhangoo6753 I stand by my words. For me I'd be like oh please bring back either iteration of Spidey as Tom Holland's version is the worse. I hope this is used to fix the franchise story wise. Obviously average Joe is blowing up ticket sales/rentals.
Yes!!! Just got home from watching it and I’m super emotional hahaha. Andrew KILLED it.
When I saw Tobey my tear just dropped. It brought me back my childhood memories. I grew up as a kid watching him as Spiderman. And I watched it literally hundreds of times, even the 3rd one. Where everyone criticised it to be bad. But for me it's good. I just went to see it in theaters because of Tobey. If there weren't the multiversal villains and the rumors of Andrew and Tobey being there, I wouldn't have watched it in cinemas.
I was the same man, even I shed a tear. And the only other time I cried in a film was 18 years ago when I was just a 3 year old kid watching the Lion King. The Raimi Spider-Man films and the original Star Wars trilogy meant so much to me as a kid and were my most watched movies
exac same here
Ditto, I skipped the other MCU Spiderman movies but I saw this because of Tobey and the original villains.
"It's okay flint we're gona get you home" as the original score plays from the Raimi movies
Not gona lie I shed a tear there and I never cry during movies.
@@MistahJay7 yup and when he talked with Otto. Their speech saying it was good to see one another was just perfection.
I noticed this on my second watch: When Peter’s senses warn him about Goblin, you can see Aunt May in the background burning White Sage. My family does this sometimes and it’s supposed to ward off negative energy or some people say evil spirits. Pretty cool detail that they did that at the same time Goblin comes out.
That's a cool little detail. I love how Goblin is treated like a force of evil that comes and goes. He truly is the demon that haunts Spiderman in all the universes.
Wow thanks for sharing man! That's a cool piece of information!!
Too bad it didn’t save her
@@THEDUDE-fv4wj ouch
I thought it was a comedy bit that she turned on the white sage because the villains smelled bad
I like to think that even though dr strange THINKS spiderman caused him to mess up the spell. It was actually the same moment Loki killed Kang and unlocked the multiverse.
The multiverse did not exist until the end of the Loki series
Dude you you be on to something.
I was touched by the treatment they gave to Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man. It brought closure to how they left the character at the end of Amazing Spider-Man 2 but it also felt like it brought closure to Garfield himself, who was fired by Sony. I thought they did a really good job with him. Also, excellent acting from Garfield in the emotional moments. Also great to see Tobey Maguire again, he's still the definitive Spider-Man for me - I think he inhabited the Peter Parker role better than Holland. For me, the best moment of the film was near the beginning when we see Matt Murdock as Parker's lawyer - FINALLY, Disney is recognising the Netflix characters, and Daredevil was mindblowingly brilliant - too good for them to reboot or recast. I'm hoping this leaves the door open to the rest of the Daredevil cast returning, maybe for another series of Daredevil, as well as seeing more from Luke Cage, Iron Fist etc.
I went to see it with a friend who asked me what was going on with the back-cracking scene. My answer to her was two words "Bro moment". That's what it was. It was important to see all these characters who brought something different to the role on screen looking out for each other. It's the first time I've ever seen something like this, multiple actors portraying the same character being shown together.
The back cracking scene is a deep cut for Toby who hurt his back making Spider-Man back in the day and was almost recast with Jake Gylenhall
I was soooo excited when I saw Matt Murdock and after the movie my friend asked me who that was -_- hahaha
@@jamesf7133 My husband leaned over and asked.. you know who that is right? never watched any of the netflix series, but I remembered from some other old media that daredevil is a blind lawyer. so yea. wasn't hard to figure out.
@@rookeealding2803 congratulations!🥳 I’m so glad you could figure out who he was!!
This movie was amazing. I can say that everyone who hated Tom holland about how he feels like “iron man jr”, would love him in this movie. He mature into his spider man.
I disagree because the entire 2 movies leading to this one he was a five year old until the final act
I’m One of those people I did not hate toms holland Spider-Man man at any point in time with his movies. But I didn’t like the iron man jr elements in his movies it did pay off at the end of the trilogy and I feel like he well be my favorite Spider-Man in the coming years.
Nope never saw the first two movie saw this one cuz toby was underwhelmed it was itching to leave the theater by the last quarter.
@@deandredunbar9618 it was average but it did have it's moments
For real, he was easily my least favorite but after this I can’t wait for the college trilogy. It’s like Watts read every criticism and fixed it
Andrew Garfield absolutely stole the show. The meta commentary on how bad his movies were by himself was so great and I’m so happy tobey and him discussed how “amazing” he was. So fucking wholesome. So fucking spiderman.
Edit: I just assume willem dafoe will kill any role he has and of course he was the best, I bring up Andrew because that was the biggest surprise in a movie FULL of characters. Subtle things like throwing his arms up saying “guess I’m spiderman 3🤷♂️” was so perfect with his goofy ass face he made.
nah sorry for me Willem Dafoe stole the Film for me
I'm very happy they didn't overdo it with the TASM Meta commentary though, as these movies also have a fanbase & respecting us as well, was a very appreciated move from Marvel.
@@TheDanielk4 100%. It was just a one and done thing and I loved that. Also the things like "my back", "the power of the sun, in the palm of my hand" and "you know, I'm something of a scientist myself" were great.
both andrew and tobey didnt feel like their characters, more like the actors... but maybe thats just me
@@prinz1106 I felt Garfield kept his more angsty / emotional side from TASM, but Tobey was definitely really toned down from how he originally portrayed Peter. While Raimi’s trilogy still holds up super well, it is *incredibly* campy. So I get the decision to streamline both of them a bit to fit with the vibe of the film.
The reason for Venom knowing Peter Parker is Spider-Man is because the Symbiotes have a hive mind. I think it’s implied that because of the fight with Tobey’s Spider-Man and the venom from his universe, Tom Hardy’s Venom knows him.
One thing I haven't seen anyone address, when Tobey and Andrew were telling Tom about their losses, I really felt the emotion from Andrew Garfield when he was talking about the aftermath of Gwen Stacey's death and how after awhile he was so filled with rage that he stopped pulling his punches. I would love a darker Spiderman story. I know they tried it with Spider Man 3, but I would have loved an entire Spider Man movie dedicated to it and I fee we lost out with Andrew not getting a third movie, because I feel like the emotion he would have brought to that would have been second to none.
It'll probably go in a darker direction with the new symbiote that Venom left in that universe.
It'll probably go in a darker direction with the new symbiote that Venom left in that universe.
To me spiders talking together seemed more like a deleted scene. Like the chemistry was amazing and it just felt like Tom felt HONORED to be working with em. I love that they picked on Andrews Garfield alot😂😂. And to me, the ending fits perfectly, Stan Lee said "he's not supposed to get what he wants. Which is why alot of people can connect with the character. A person trying to balance their life out"
Am I not supposed to have what I want? What I need?
Sometimes to do what’s right we have to be steady, and give up the things we want the most, even our dreams.
The most emotional part of the movie that made me CRY was Andrew saving MJ. That scene was so special and he needed that closure so much 🥺🥺 I felt so sad for trauma filled Andrew’s Spider-Man
I like how he’s knocking Spider-Man being broke. Even though that’s basically Peter Parker’s entire existence
This movie just made me want more of Tobey and Andrew as spidermen. It’s sad that it most likely won’t happen.
Did you see the end credits scene? I hope we get more alternate universe movies.
Not gonna lie this opens up the possibilties for more Spider-Man’s appearing. Not likely, but they could definitely come back.
@@angelgjr1999 I had to leave right when the credits happened do you have a link to the scene??? I cant find it for the life of me without some dumbass explaining it.
Dude they didn't killed them and this movie broke so many records already. Trust me they will be back
I bet my left nut we will see old X-Men old spiderman old blade etc in a big avengers type movie. Probably secret wars or multi verse war
If this was any other Spidey movie Charlie Cox as Daredevil would of been the massive talking point! Overshadowed by Toby and Andrew, understandably.
Loved seeing him in this. That brick catch was 👌🏻👍🏻
I don't think its overshadowed, Murdock is in the MCU timeline. That means more daredevil on the way, which is great.
Except that a brick can’t be thrown like that Cus they were in a high level apartment floor
@@tannerchaffin9235 so if daredevil is in the mcu does that mean that netflix luke cage and the punisher are also in the mcu? Cause man. Those shows really ended on such high notes.
@@chicle8727 bigger than that it means they're coming back but on Disney Plus
@@mezuki64 they're gonna be toned down though especially punisher. But would still watch em
I love how they worked in the Spider-Man pointing meme. "Hey Peter!" *All three look up and point at each other* Had me laughing so hard 🤣
Also they kinda had the great power in Amazing Spider-Man but they did it in a really strange way
Yeah I didn't catch that on the first viewing lol. Funny scene
It was also in the credit animation
I loved the fact that Peter's Spider Sense still worked even when he was outside his own body was AMAZING! Strange couldn't even touch that box!
Or it was the suit that did it for him, nano machine son
@@yeahboyz9314 lol
“You know, I’m something of a scientist myself”
4 people in my theater burst out laughing and the rest just gave us weird looks
Edit: I wish I’d had been in y’all’s theaters
Same with my theater. Scene of the year tho possibly
@Echoes same here while I pointed at the screen like the Leo meme
Everyone in my theater laughed at “my back” and the when they pointed their fingers towards each other like the meme picture
I totally laughed at that part. But yeah, not too many seemed to get it.
Lame audience mine absolutely lost it
The thing about Peter wanting to save all the villains puts him in a interesting position and is a very Spider-Man thing to do. He ultimately succeeds but at great personal cost. Which again is part and parcel with the character.
That's about as Spider-Man as Spider-Man gets... blows my mind some people can't see that.
Is it though? Like I loved in the first movie when he sacrifices his life to save Vulture, but in this movie, he puts his friends and family (and possibly his entire world) in an extreme risk just for a chance to save 5 villains
There’s a large ethical difference between sacrificing yourself to save a murderer and placing other people in danger to save the life of a murderer.
@@adinom687 Only this version of Spider-Man isn't a hardened adult like Dr. Strange was. Remember he didn't have his "Uncle Ben moment" by that point in the film and he still had his naive optimism in place. That's the story point 'NWH' was trying to establish to bring MCU Spider-Man in line with the other two veteran Spider-Men who had already learned these hard lessons.
@@adinom687 honestly can’t imagine Peter doing anything else though. You’re preaching to the choir with your argument, I don’t think anyone would disagree with your points. But Peter Parker face to face with 5 people who he thinks or knows are redeemable just isn’t going to press the button.
@@adinom687 spider-man is always gonna try to save everybody he possibly can, that’s what the character has always been even if it’s over the top sometimes
Explanation: Tom Hardy was pulled in because in the Venom 2 post-credit, Venom shows Tom "80-billion light years of hive knowledge across universes". So he technically did know due to the hive knowledge. And also the symbiotic venom can travel across universes and the symbiote ITSELF is not a person that was zapped back to their own universe as it broke off of Eddie Brock.
He didn't actually show him the hive knowledge, they were pulled into mcu as he was about to, venom says something like "that wasn't me" just after.
One of the other channels i saw thinks that the "knowledge from across the multiverse" includes toby's venom and that is why he was pulled over... but who knows
People really don’t seem to understand this venom immediately says “ that wasn’t me”. So many people missed that I thought I was watching a version re-edited for clarity or something.
@@ellier6426 Sure, he doesn't show him the knowledge, but Venom still has the knowledge and he is symbiotic with Eddie Brock so they got brought in.
Pretty sure electro never knew spiderman was peter Parker
@Fish Boy What he learns in the MCU is irrelevant. Electro would have needed to know in Amazing Spiderman 2 to be brought into the MCU by the spell. I don't recall this ever happening.
Favorite scene is when Garfield was able to redeem himself by catching MJ and not killing her this time.
Andrew's Peter feeling redeemed by saving another Peter's MJ was incredible.
What made it great was he doesn't start to tear up until she says she is okay after he asked her he NEEDED her to say she was
You mean when the writers stole Tom's moment?
@@juniorberns you missed the point but thats not my problem
@@cryxbaby2250 no I didn't. You failed to carry the current spider man.
And if it doesn't make the minimum not the last Spider-Man with Tom Holland.. it is your problem.. along with the other toby-garfield fans that were cancelled before this.
Have a nice day.
@@cryxbaby2250 and who are you?
Willam defoes performance was amazing. Him and Tom’s first fight scene was perfectly done. Gave me majors vibes from the fights in the first Spider-Man. Very grounded and powerful. All the punches and hits could be felt through the screen
Yeah, that's a very rare compliment I can give to an MCU movie. I also liked that fight for similar reasons.
Well yea cause I watched it in 4dx
That first fight was incredible. When Tom’s Spidey keeps punching him desperately in the face and Goblins’s looking up at him laughing with that maniacal grin. Shit was terrifying. Dafoe put his whole foot in that role🦶
if you recall, venom gives eddy "a taste" of the symbiote hive mind in their post credit scene of venom 2. "80 million light years of hive knowledge, across universes." immediately after this, they get dragged into the mcu. the symbiote hive mind must have had knowledge of spider man and shared it in this moment. venom doesnt fully understand it, but instinctively is shown obsessing over peter. he FEELS a need to find spider man. although they get whisked away in the end, the symbiote instinctively must have left a piece (or child) behind in this universe in order to bond with spiderman.
I generally enjoyed this movie and it warmed my heart when I saw Andrew and Tobey. It was as if I was revisiting my childhood! I hope they make more!
I was just happy to see Charlie Cox back as Mathew Murdoc, he was/is my favourite superhero on screen
Same. I was annoyed they didn’t mention it 🤣
Yeah, I’m glad his Daredevil is back.
He was wasted
I cannot believe that do not even mention dardevil one time in the spoiler review lol
Nah he was in this movie for like 5 seconds and i honestly even forgot that he was in it.
Venom is able to tap into the memory of other versions of itself (explained in the Venom 2 post credits). Another version fought Spider-Man and knew who Peter Parker was, so it makes sense that this Venom was able to get into this universe. Tom Hardy's character came along bc the symbiote can't survive without him
Exactly....it's not that hard to understand either
BRO I HAD TO STAND UP IN FRONT OF MY THEATER AND EXPLAIN THIS SHIT TO THOSE THAT WERE CONFUSED! Shit was funny tho
EXACTLY!!!
I think venom is in Garfield’s universe.
The real plot hole is why was Electro there. He never knew Peter was Spider-Man.
I love that Osborn said the line “you know I’m something of a scientist myself”
Scriptwriters acknowledge the memes there
Also, missed opportunity to put in Mr Ditkovich as Peter’s land lord at the end. It would have been perfect
I was waiting for that too. 🤣
“Rent?”
Same haha
With a plate of cookies waiting to be eaten
I was so ready for him to show up
I think that Sandman was just done with waiting for Peter to heal everyone and just wanted to push the button before anything else went wrong. He’s the only one who would survive and he doesn’t know this Peter so he doesn’t trust him enough to wait it out. The only weird thing is him not helping at the apartment but it might be that he saw things going wrong and he just decided to say fuck it and look for the cube.
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but in Venom 2, there is a end credit scene where Venom mentions the hive mind has knowledge "across universes" and how they have memories about the other Venoms (hence Tohper's Venom). I believe in the end credit scene when Venom shows his some memories, he sees Venom from Spiderman 3 and how he knew who Spider-Man was, hence why he was brought over.
It’s still a really dumb explanation lol
@@aaronheysenbeg9117 yes and no, they are a hive mind, and all of them are connected to Knull. It could be the fact that Venom was tapping into the collected knowledge and thus was selected to be brought over but long story short it makes sense in a wraparound way
I didn’t watch Venom 2, so I thought that perhaps this Venom met a Peter Parker that wasn’t Spider-Man.
Im glad they sent him back and left a piece of the symbiote so they can get another version of eddie or venom. You could see kraven and scorpion in the stars as the dimension was ripping but sony is already making a kraven movie so i can see scorpion being a future villain in the mcu with symbiote
@@Lostswimmer1997 See, you're going off of comic established lore. This isn't the comics, this is essentially a new multi-verse separate from he comics that deals exclusively with live-action adaptions it would seem. They (the studios) can create whatever rules they see fit. So we have to come to the conclusion that the Venom 2 post credits scene and what it implied is now the canon for Symbiotes when it comes to this new tv/film/animated multiverse being crafted. Venom having a connection to a multiversal hivemind is fucking sick and totally gives a in universe explanation why Hardy would be there to begin with. Such a genius way of making the Sony movies canon but not 'canon-canon'.
This movie was everything I was hoping for and more. Best of all, I think Goblin was done phenomenally. Between the unpredictable split personality, to the smashing of the mask and donning the more traditional look, to being absolutely terrifying in combat (and the fact that DeFoe did these stunts himself), it took an iconic but goofy character and turned him into an absolute badass antagonist.
Totally agree with you. When he just destroys Spiderman in the first fight was amazing. Shows how dangerous he truly is.
I wish he was dressed the way he did in this movie. But still had the mask as well. But idk maybe just for a little bit i guess because Willem was chewing the scenery and it was fantastic.
@@Dreeza68955 the helmet is too big. I’m glad he smashed it. I mean it still looks pretty cool but when you look at his whole body it’s like, ooooooh….
@@yamomspotatosalad818 yeah that's why I kinda changed my mind a little half way through my first comment. He doesn't have to keep it on but one shot with the helmet under the hood. Or maybe even just having the face part of it without the cone-head. Just to get that comic panel shot. Or maybe the Stark machine made goblin cure made him start turning green or something.
Bro design was perfect and badass! It Made Defoe look wayyy younger
Venom said something about having hive knowledge that spanned across universes, maybe he shares memories with alternate versions of venom and that's why he knows who Peter is. He could be linked to versions of him and that's why he left part of himself in the MCU.
yup when he explains part of the venom history to Eddie he tells them that all the venoms share memories thats outside of space time
Venom: The End flashbacks oh boy..
Hype aside I am glad they are keeping that.
Am I the only person that really disliked the Venom films? I felt no enjoyment finding out that Venom was gonna be MCU because I simply find Tom Hardy's Venom insufferable.
@@SuperMurray2009 Its the only way they can do the black suit storyline without rebooting Venom again
@@shaylus_4158 No. That is not the only way. Did you forget Topher Grace was Venom in Spiderman 3?
Doc Oc: "You're all grown up. How are you?"
Peter: "I'm good, still trying to be better"
Me watching them, shedding a tear: "Yes, we are.. doing our best to be better Doc.."
I still feel like Andrew deserves another spiderman movie
Agreed. I think it would be awesome if Andrew returns again but this time he’s basically Tom Holland’s Peter/Spider-Man all grown up. Still, I say Andrew is my favorite Spider-Man out of all of them
I'd love to see more from all three of them. I doubt Sony would be willing to take that big of a financial risk, considering that the Andrew and Tobey movies wouldn't have the financial or creative support that they get for the Tom movies from Marvel, but it would still be cool as hell.
Apparently they might appear in the secret wars movie that marvel is planning to do, if you dont know the story arc, its basically different incarnations of superheroes fighting for their universe. Or a full spiderverse movie with miles included.
@@MrBergste it just shows.. spiderman is good as a spiderman movie. NOT an mcu movie.
Techinically this is his third Spidey movie.
Peter rehabilitating the villains is literally the most Spider-Man thing ever, don't see what the problem is
Your talking to the guy who thought Superman was potrayed well in man of steel so no shock he has a problem with that.
It's a very Spider-Man thing to do, but it's also potentially very stupid lol. It's excusable for his character, but if you were to pick a side, you could argue that Doctor Strange's plan was the more sensible one... Then again, he could have probably compromised with Peter and just helped speed up the process while preventing the villains getting so out of hand... I dunno...
But yeah, I don't think they meant it didn't make sense for the character, just that it was generally a bad idea.
@@KitsyX Well it's easy to say oh well I'd side with Strange but if you were actually put in the position of whether someone lived or died it would be alot harder than you seem to think it would be. Again Peter isn't saying this on a whim, he knows he has the techonolgy to help them and prooves as such later. Whenever there's been another choice to subdue a villian peter has always taken that option and never once considered killing them. Beck's death was his own fault Peter had no intention of killing him and likely would've had him arrested like Vulture instead. And remember he's still a high school kid who's been under enormous pressure and now he's being asked to break his moral code and let people he knows can be cured die. One of the core elements to spiderman is that he screws up, but then learns from it and grows from that mistake.
The funny thing is, it fucking works in the end so I don't know what they're complaining about, yeah Aunt May died but her ideology was correct and it ended up working, but of course Alex and AJ will call anything stupid if doesn't coincide with their own morals, good thing this isn't "Angry-Joe: No Way Home."
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My favourite sequence in the entire movie was when the Goblin revealed himself. He was so deranged and brutal that it almost seemed like a different movie for a bit and I loved that.
Also, the introduction of Electro is one I really liked as well. The way Peter just freezes when he sees a human shape coming from electricity was so good. It really sold the gravity of the situation.
Willem Defoe commands the entire film
I like how Tom Holland's Spiderman never actually hated the villains he went up against like Vulture and Electro but Wilem's Green Goblin was able to make Spiderman hate him
@@thedeepfriar745 that he does my friend... he had the big bad vibe from the moment he turned evil again... and like beat the fuck out of spiderman in the building
@@SK008 yeah he’s 66 years old and I gotta say damn he looks great for his age, and he’s very inspired casting for the role. I heard when he was prepping for the first Spider-Man film he read every storyline with the Green Goblin that he could get his hands on. That’s really good prep.
@@thedeepfriar745 he always had the old guy look even in the first Spiderman movie 😂 so his appearance hasn't changed that much... He is a guy who always understands the assignment.. I loved the lighthouse in which he absolutely crushed.. it's a mystery why he doesn't have an Oscar.. he is deserving of one..
I believe that after the Loki series happened the universes in the multiverse started to drift closer to each other. A memory wipe spell that earlier was pretty easy/safe to do became very risky.
In his defense, I think strange was kinda like “ you’ve been through enough “ and based on his conversation with Wong, he’s done this before with no problems. So it was light work until Peter kept adding on.
Exactly, maybe it narratively could have been executed just a bit better, but I think they’re a little too ruffled up about it. We understand that to Strange, this isn’t a big deal, and that he DEFINITELY wants to immediately fix the issue as soon as it arises, and we also understand Peter and May’s much more human and mortal perspective on things. I think it’s all fine.
Don't think you can try and justify it, it's just bad writing.
@@corporatestatusbrah I disagree. Everything that dude said in this comment was made explicitly clear in the movie. I totally understood why strange was helping peter
@@adamcameron485 so because Peter kept changing the people he wanted to know it goofed the spell and puts the plot into motion. If you want to have that service as a plot cool, but it’s just bad writing. If this was a younger version of Strange and he didn’t know fully what was going on it works, but holding that Peter messed up the spell is just lazy. If you can look past the multiple amounts of plot holes and writing flaws cool, but don’t act like what’s setting the plot in motion is good writing.
@@corporatestatusbrah I don't think this is a great set up to explain why the multiverse stuff happens, but I totally disagree about strange's motivations not making sense. The dude above reiterated what the movie did. The film was very clear about why he did it. He clearly didn't realize the potential harm that could come with the spell, and it has to do with the lack of existing knowledge on the spell. The film was very clear about that. Using that spell would not need to come from strange's inexperience. Also, strange hasn't been a sorcerer very long. I don't know if you saw dr strange, but he became sorcerer supreme very quickly, lol
Absolutely loved the chemistry between Andrew and Tobey it felt so natural, it was so damn satisfying to watch them together
Also, Garfield’s spiderman was done justice (finally)