Watching this movie, I kept being reminded of Pixar’s A Bug’s Life. And then it hit me: A Bug’s Life is ALSO based on Seven Samurai. That revelation was more mind-blowing than anything in either Rebel Moons.
korean studio got 65 million made 20 episodes of the greatest superhero show ever! it was the most expensive show so far. beating out squid game! anyways give the money to korea! they make better movies and shows
That was so funny. I hadn't even noticed the coal powered interstellar spaceship until it was mentioned here. I had been too busy laughing at the staying alive shooting pose. When you pointed out the guys shovelling coal, I lost my mind laughing. Space Balls didn't have anything that stupid and they were really trying.
One of most unforgettable parts was how we were shown that the asian lady with the lightsabers and fake arms was a powerhouse and ultimate skilled killer.... And then she dies fighting 4 normal soldiers. and not wounding any of them. And the fight was 30 mins long.
I watched it because I couldn’t believe it was that bad and yep it’s so bad 😅🤣 why do they still hire Snyder I’m sure they can find a guy on acid with better ideas
So many filmmakers dont get opportunities in this industry. Meanwhile, this Hack of a director constantly gets chances and blows them over and over again.
mind you they waste 3 day harvesting grain insted of fill it with dirt and bluffing them. spend the rest 2 day training and making trenches turrnul with a fucking water bucket
So many big budget movies later and Dawn of the Dead is still Zack Snyder’s best movie. I looked it up to see who wrote it (because Zack sure didn’t), and do you know what I discovered? It was written by JAMES GUNN! That is like biblical levels of irony right there.
Felt that way about the first one. At home, late at night, watching this movie. Fell asleep at the climax. I don't fall asleep unless I'm really bored and disinterested. The film is candy for the eyes but has no substance. If I watch this I have to finish the first. And the last two movies I fell asleep in was the last PotC Movie and the RoboCop Remake. Not a good sign.
It was so funny watching the Native American guys’ axe bounce right off people in slow motion because they were so scared to show too much violence or any blood.
Also this is a minor gripe, but we saw that Tarak came from a British-styled victorian-esque world. Which made his choice of weaponry and clothing even more confusing. This guy comes from a world that doesn't look overly warm, and no-one else in Veldt feels like it's so warm that they need to wear less clothing. Why is he shirtless almost all of the time?!
@@lost_pantheon Yeah, that annoyed me too. Tarak feels like a Tarzan/Conan type character. When it was revealed that he was a Prince, I was expecting him to come from a jungle planet or something. I was actually taken aback with how modern his world was. The griffins flying around attacking the ships really contrasted with it too. If Tarak's kingdom was supposed to be similar to Wakanda, it sure didn't seem that way. Maybe Tarak's appearance is supposed to show that he's been on the run so long that he's had to learn how to use primitive weapons and survive in the wilderness, but that's never shown or explained. Also, Tarak's supposed to have "the ability to bond with animals of nature," but outside of that one scene in the first movie, we NEVER see him do it. He didn't even do it in the big battle they were all planning for. That would've been a big help, don't you think?
lol at Alex putting his head in his hands at 14:05 when OJ starts explaining “Scargiver” telling her lover what she did to the princess - I feel his pain!
43:08 The villagers clearly have the same population-replenishing powers as the Dothraki from Game of Thrones S8. Whenever the plot needs more of them, they just cut a few in half and the halves become individuals.
Lets face it. Zack is a Fanfiction writer that has somehow managed to get studios to make his shit. Literally, everything is rule of cool or shit that sounds super profound and intelligent in his head, but the second anyone says it out loud it starts causing haemorrages.
@@Korra228 MoS could have worked if Pa Kent wasn't killed off and someone else wrote the ending. Oh and if they color graded it better. All the rest though are just stupid fanfiction.
@@cajohnson130 Brother anyone can try to recreate the Comics. That's all he does and even that is not Comic accurate so the Suspension of disbelief is gone. None of the character minus Wonder woman were their characters from the comics, and even that Wonder woman never really truly becomes wonder woman from the comics, she's like a Conservative version of herself (I mean personality wise) when in the comics she's not at all. Zack has always been crap and idk how or why people celebrated him minus visuals, but that's VFX crew and has little to do with him minus Directing the shots..The Actors are the only things that hold his creations together, this movie had zero good actors.
Zack wants emotional scenes with characters we dont connect with or dont care. There is no chemistry between the team either. Samurai lady died and im like,what did she actually do in the overall plot? Wasnt she this legendary assassin?
Snyder is obviously a fan of Warhammer 40k, but doesn't understand its often forgotten satirical roots. Its trying to say fascism sucks but Snyder like most 40k fans don't get subtext.
Normally i have no problem turning my brain off and just enjoy a movie/series. But MAN, every scene in this film had me saying: WTF!? Oh come on!! And i actually turned it off before the end, i couldn't take it anymore...
What exactly would be a good example of a movie/series to shut your brain off? I usually imagine those are more visual movies like Fantasia. Not movies with dialogue. But some action movies you don’t really need to follow the plot to understand. Which isn’t bad. But movies where you sit on autopilot is kinda weird to me.
This reminds me ranting about Aaron, comparing him with Alan Wake (the actor looks identical, Aaron is the bad version), the guy went from hero to villain so quickly
"All hype" yet Rodgers will be in the Hall of Fame after he retires. Sure, he only won one Super Bowl but that's still 1 more than 95% of QBs in the league and he was consistently a great QB during his time at Green Bay. Guy's definitely a bit of a drama-queen, but he's been a damn good QB.
don’t you think if they had the technology to open portals…they would have high yield gmo crops growing on board the ship..eliminating the need to worry about finding food
I can believe that, since technology doesn't necessarily advances at the same rate in all areas, SW is an example in this...but why they need food if they can just open wormholes for instant travel?
@@rodrigobogado8756 I can't believe it personally. Just dumb. WE have access to gmos and can grow plants in space, if they don't have an accelerator for crops or even any crops at all on their gigantic space ship that travels faster than light, my suspension of disbelief is broken. Yeah, usually it's military shit that grows technologically the most, but in order to grow an army so large, there is no way you are just going from village to village for grain and you would need technology that helps with necessities. I don't believe it. If we want to be really realistic for something in a star wars era fictional world, they would have algae and krill farms which would then be used in futuristic food printers that can make anything you want.
300 Is fun but not a good movie technically. Watchmen is phenomenal and I really wonder how much influence he had on the writing because it doesn’t feel like a Snyder film outside of style. All his other movies are baaaad.
I watched this and was pleasantly suprised how fast the time felt and how i felt afterwards. Cause I fell asleep during the grain harvesting scene and woke up pretty refreshed an hour later.
i feel ashamed defending this good for nothing clown in the past, snyder is only good at "directing" and even then i've only ever liked a few of his films, watchmen, 300 and MOS.... when you give him too much creative control, you get absolute trash like rebel moon, unwatchable in everyway. so glad he got booted from DCU some of his idiotic plans like batman getting lois knocked up etc... what a tool
I got a better plan. Everyone hides underground somewhere away from their village but just leave a note saying like: Sorry, we have moved to a different planet, please forward all mail to Alpha Centari X11B
Thats what I said to my family when she hid the shuttle ship in the waterfall. She could have hid the whole village right there with the water hiding their thermal readings
I just like how OJ freaked out about her giving herself a fade with scissors. I haven’t seen the movie, but it seems like Mr. Snyder has faith that the people watching don’t have critical thinking skills.
Feels like most films these days are just elaborate money laundering schemes. Why else would they remake/reboot so many films that nobody even asked for?
Nobody is addressing the scene when Kora activates the bombs on the ship and suddenly those blue eyes are looking at her? What the hell was that about? Is the ship alive? I was so confused.
So anyone wanna explain to me why an empire that encompasses thousands of worlds needs this bit of grain so badly? No other worlds they could do it on? Or no way to set up a farm next door?
It could be justifiable if it was actually set up in the film somewhere. Have the ship still take years to get anywhere, have them lose their food supply in a fight. Establish that they are such a cult that the soldiers have no idea how to do anything but maintain their weapons. So all the food replicators broke and no one knows how to fix them. Technology can be lost if the next generation never learns how to maintain that technology. But for a movie to feel coherent these thigs have to actually be shown in the film. If there's no plot involving food then the movie doesn't need to explain it. But the entire justification for the tension and plot of the movie is that they apparently need food, and it's never established properly why they need food.
The idea of plundering a village for food and supplies makes sense in Seven Samurai and The Magnificent Seven because they were set in a low tech era. The conceit of a hi-tech galaxy spanning empire needing wheat is stupid at a fundamental level; these aren’t opportunistic bandits, they are the rulers of the universe.
Rebel Moon is a worst version of what Dune did. They had world building first movies(Dune was better but didnt really get me hyped for dune 2) yet Dune capitalized on its first movie world building and knocked it out the park with 2nd movie
I like when the coal powered spacecraft that’s not in motion falls out of the sky like a ship sinks in water. Didn’t understand why it falls vertically other than to force the falling fight inside the ship.
Your assessments are spot on. The only thing you missed was during the blowing up of the engine scene, where the engine inexplicably has a face, and as Kora is placing the mines its eyes open up. What the hell was that for, why did the engine need a face?
The novelization mentions the dreadnoughts have some godlike beings enslaved in them to power them or something... along with the coal engines I guess...
The sword lady, Nemesis had no business dying to three troopers (- ^ ) That's the most disappointing thing about this movie for me since it was so left-field from what we saw of her skills in part 1.
Really? You were really invest even in the first movie? I watched this movie only to hear Angryjoe's trash it. And I couldn't even finish it. After 1h it was enough
@@jeanpierregabiro1424 No, part one was quite disappointing but the spider-lady fight was its highlight. I'm just pointing to how underwhelming and ridiculous it was to kill off a character that was shown to be very capable.
I would bet you she wanted to get out of contract when she realized that Zack is incoherent lunatic. Same with Charlie Dunnam in part 1. They are not stupid , they have to say these lines and ask director question like “who the fck talks like that?”
No he’s not Kaythleen Kennedy because he pitched that shit to her FIRST and she refused him. This has to be some Netflix tax fraud or money lauder machine because I honestly dont know who tf in Netflix read that script and greenlighted it 😂
Random Film Talk brought up an amazing point. The presence of her dropship completely violates the first movie. It's not just "hey its lucky it only needed to remove some straw from its ports" it's "Why did they go get Kai and endure the whole first movie if they had a spaceship that could travel to the colloseum planet where general titus is?"
My question is, why are we supposed to wait for the directors cut EVERY single time? You don’t see Spielberg or Nolan tripping over themselves during interviews, promising how awesome the directors cut will be if we wait. With Zack, people say it’s never his fault if the movie doesn’t turn out well. It’s always the studios fault. But can we really blame Warner Bros or Netflix EVERY single time? Whatever his next film will be, I’m sure we’ll see the same song and dance. It’ll release to mixed reviews, but then he’ll explain to us how it wasn’t his true vision. And we need to wait for the R-rated Directors cut. Again. It’s almost a formula now.
@@jakey14344 agree like I used to like Zack 300 it my favorite movie but after find out what he want to do in the DCU bro can't write to save his life like he need someone to put him down like someone tell him that a terrible idea
I just wish people would ask “What exactly was cut that would make the story better? How would an R rating change the opinions of those who disliked the story and visuals?” Gore aside, how does changing the rating help a movie like this? If it was a gory horror movie, of course. That’s the meat and potatoes for most horror movies. But action movies don’t need an abundance of gore, swearing, and nudity.
Not sure if anyone on the Angry joe crew reads these comments but i think Joes idea of recording reaction/commentary like RLM would go over really well. You could post highlights at the end of a spoiler vid or just intercut the best parts. Really needs to stay genuine so you'd have to be up for recording entire sessions and throwing them away if there just wasnt worth it, but i think i speak for everyone when i say I wish I heard Other Joes jokes lol Hope you guys try it.
Would just like to point out cuz I heard Joe mention headshots, in actual military training you are taught to aim at chests. You have limited ammo and need to aim for the biggest area on your target. Logic that make perfect sense for farmers having to learn fast. This movie couldnt even do that right
I don’t own a firearm, but I’m pretty sure in basic gun defense you’re taught to aim for “center-mass” aka the chest, you don’t even need to have military training to know that
I didn't think anyone batch of baddies could be stupider and worse shots than Stormtroopers, but here we are. I've rarely seen a space-faring empire who had a worse grasp of battlefield tactics. What's the point of having projectile weapons just so they can march into melee range? They could have just picked off the whole village from the higher hills surrounding it.
With their aim they would have hit the precious grain - not an option to shoot from the hills. Melee range it is and only plasma weapons that cant deal with wooden structures; thats the responsible way in arming and fighting with that kind of soldiers.
The whole grain harvest and preparing for defence reminds me a heck of a lot of Bugs Life in where they had to prepare a harvest for the bad guys but secretly preparing a defence in secret. .
A Bug’s Life is basically an insect-based remake of Seven Samurai, which is basically what Zack Snyder was ripping off for Rebel Moon. (Also Star Wars, Warhammer 40K and a little dash of Shakespeare.)
I knew this would be hilarious to check out immediately after watching the movie! You left out my favorite critique about the dreadnought design though which was not only does it run on coal, but the bridge can't control the main batteries. The bridge has to call to the main guns who then have to HAND CRANK the gun into position... like wtf
I think Zack was trying to ape the Imperium of Man from 40ks technological style, which is both highly advanced compared to our modern day tech but backwards in its implementation. Such as the cannons on ships being manually loaded by crews of like a hundred dudes loading these massive shells in and people getting crushed all the time and stuff.
Also guys... you didn't mention it but remember the scene when she is planting the bombs on the core of the ship. That structure was like a female statue chained down and it opened it's eyes when she activated the charges.... wtf was that about??? And while she was setting up the charges she was almost crying like she was about to blow up a living creature... :D
@@adam4vik938 i made it up zaddys lore says its a "kali" but its not a dancing four armed sword lady like in SMT and hindu so i couldnt tell Or maybe he meant cali like a californian valley girl
Me: *having this on as background noise even though I'll never watch these movies* AJ: The gaze is coming! The gaze is right around the corner. We mustn't fight the gaze! Me: ...Wait...did they say the gays are coming? Alex: The emperor's gaze are coming to get us! Me: *pauses video to fact check* Me: Oh...that is a poor choice of name for a faction!
It's so strange to watch them purposefully show all these laser shots missing characters over and over, troops but when the tank opens fire it shoots one area in the town where no one is standing. Repeatedly. SO frustrating
@@juanjaramillo4270 I didn't want to seem like a hater for the sake of hype, but the last 2 Star Wars trilogy films have infinitely more personality and developments compared to these
At this point, I'm hoping it takes a turn into "Fast and the Furious" territory where it just keeps getting bigger and dumber until it collapses under its own weight and comes back better than ever....
Don’t always agree with Alex but damn I love watching these three break down a bad movie like this. Y’all are way more entertaining than a lot of these movies
Go watch the 'Samurai 7' anime instead. Have cool characters (and an awesome robot samurai as well) fight gundams and capitalism. All the sci fi samurai action you need.
I was at the world premier for this The whole audience laughed all the way through it despite Zack and the entire cast being in the audience Great night though!!😂😂
They could have fixed that tunnel rat part by having one of the heroes say, 'We have these old tunnels under the village from qa previous war', but Snyder doesn't know how to make exposition, so no. They're just there.
I’m confused by time scales. First they tell Noble it will take 9 weeks to harvest the grain, then he tells them he will be back in 10. Then Kora and Gunnar make the two day ride to Providence, spend (I’m guessing) 8 or so weeks rounding up the Numpty Bunch, beat Noble, travel back to Providence, ride home again over 2 days and then the harvest will be ready? I don’t think ZS understands how the passage of time works.
Not to mention, if interplanetary travel is that fast, why don't the bad guys just send a supply ship back to their nearest base to get their food supplies?
Can we talk about how 30 dudes ran into the engine room, facing the giant engine, walked right up to the front of the giant engine in the middle of the room and none of them noticed the 7 bright green bombs stuck to the front of the engine, 3 feet from their faces at head hight until 2 seconds before they blew up, that actually pissed me off enough that i laughed at it 😂🤣 I also laughed when gunner died and the main character basically said, "look Thorin, the eagles are coming" 😂😂😂
Hah I thought exactly the same thing about the bombs, they literally stood right next to them and didn’t notice they were there. I’m surprised they didn’t mention it in the review.
"Oh no! That guy!" I said that exact same thing at that scene!! lmao Also, didn't this random 12th century village just declare war on an intergalactic empire?? What exactly is stopping another dreadnought (or three) that don't "need" their grain, from blasting them from orbit?? Like, what?
Nowhere in this mess is there anything salvageable that can be made into a coherent story. Unless he throws it all away and starts again, it is unfixable.
Remember they also traveled 5 days back to the planet, can you imagine how much coal they used for 5 days to run such a huge ship. How heavy the coal is.....Does Zach even know that there isn't enough coal to burn to make a rocket go past the ozone layer. Which is why we use fuel and nuclear technology 😅
Don't worry guys, this isn't Sniders TRUE vision, the studi- I mean netflix totally tampered with this version, he needs another 100 million to make the DEFINITIVE ULTIMATE edition that will be the greatest film ever made. Again, just like every single one of his movies. He is the new Michael Bay.
Watching this movie, I kept being reminded of Pixar’s A Bug’s Life. And then it hit me: A Bug’s Life is ALSO based on Seven Samurai. That revelation was more mind-blowing than anything in either Rebel Moons.
Bugs life is Goated
Except that bugs life is actually fun, unlike rebel whatever you call it
Oh my God your right.
@@Stop-What-U-Are-Doing-At-Once I wanted to see if the second part was any better. It wasn't.
Incredible comment 😂
I totally agree with Alex, you could've divided that 200 million, and given 13 different directors 15 million to make a movie.
Yep! Godzilla proved that!
@@shcdemolisher Godzilla Minus 1 will be my bench mark for movies.
@@AaronJLit is now mine
@@AaronJLit was aight.
korean studio got 65 million made 20 episodes of the greatest superhero show ever! it was the most expensive show so far. beating out squid game! anyways give the money to korea! they make better movies and shows
That was so funny. I hadn't even noticed the coal powered interstellar spaceship until it was mentioned here. I had been too busy laughing at the staying alive shooting pose. When you pointed out the guys shovelling coal, I lost my mind laughing. Space Balls didn't have anything that stupid and they were really trying.
Rebel moon would have worked better as a space balls movie
Watching an hour and a half of AJ, OJ, and Alex s***ing on this movie is a significantly better use of time than watching the movie.
Exactly. I ONLY watched the movie so I know what they're talking about when they trashed it.
I second that
nah
They're an equal waste of time, actually.
3/10 yet gives captain marvel 7/10
One of most unforgettable parts was how we were shown that the asian lady with the lightsabers and fake arms was a powerhouse and ultimate skilled killer....
And then she dies fighting 4 normal soldiers. and not wounding any of them. And the fight was 30 mins long.
They were "subverting" your expectations.
At least a light saber killed her, unlike other series...
To be fair, it would have only been 15 without the slo-mo.
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20:20 "What do you call something trying to be more profound than it is?"
Pretentious.
TLOU2
Rebel moon feels like a fake science fiction movie that would be playing in the background of a better show or movie
A joke mini-game inside of an actual game
@@NewMilleniumDawn they took one of the GTA parody shows and turned it into a real movie
@@gamrknight8060 dont disrespect the Republican Space Rangers.
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I watched it because I couldn’t believe it was that bad and yep it’s so bad 😅🤣 why do they still hire Snyder I’m sure they can find a guy on acid with better ideas
So many filmmakers dont get opportunities in this industry. Meanwhile, this Hack of a director constantly gets chances and blows them over and over again.
The problem is that Zack Snyder is friendly towards producers so he gets multiple projects.
@@jakey14344 Hack Snyder. *I am not the originator of this moniker.
@@jakey14344 How 'friendly' are we talking here? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
He wouldn't write it himself, the movies might be good.
Don't get me started about Morbius and Madam Webb.....
Jeremy Jahns described this movie perfectly in 2 words: Dog shit.
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Rebel moon: Number 2
does angry joe rate movies like he does games? im gonna guess he gives this a 2/10.
@@airiakizuki5592 it's in the non spoilers video, I think it was a 2 indeed.
@@airiakizuki5592 He gave it a 3 in the non spoilers.
Still laughing out loud over the fact that the big, bad wannabe Emperor brought his own background music band to the kings assassination
The funniest part about that is that they r playing the music like a play by play too. Matching the scenes that r happening
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Snyder learned about diegetic music the day before and included it in the most absurd, ham-fisted way possible.
We need more goofy villains like this
They were farming with tools from 1890 but loading the grain onto hovering platforms 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Hilarious that characters name was NEMESIS and she got bodied by like 3 stormtroopers
Subversion of expectations
He who controls the grain controls the universe
Unless we have the girl then we don't need the grain lol
In future we have all gone vegan and only eat grain
I can only imagine how boring is that
@@Jeez001 lol
mind you they waste 3 day harvesting grain insted of fill it with dirt and bluffing them. spend the rest 2 day training and making trenches turrnul with a fucking water bucket
Lucasfilm made the responsible decision by not hiring Zack Snyder to make a Star Wars movie, and that’s saying A LOT!
Rebel Moon would've been better if it was an actual Star Wars movie, but it wouldn't have been a good Star Wars movie.
Rian Johnson is worse.
@@whom382he is not.
In the words of Deadpool, it would have been so Dark! Why does DC have to be so dark?🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
One answer - Zach Snyder!🤣
@@travisspazz1624 Yes he is. He single handedly took Star Wars out to the backyard and blew its brains out
So many big budget movies later and Dawn of the Dead is still Zack Snyder’s best movie. I looked it up to see who wrote it (because Zack sure didn’t), and do you know what I discovered? It was written by JAMES GUNN! That is like biblical levels of irony right there.
Like Ed Sheeran writing for Justin Bieber
Lol, no.
@@davidkymdell452 No as in, Gunn wasn't a script writer in the movie? Cause IMDB disagrees hard (and also credits George A. Romero).
@@jamestomato1744 Screenplay: George A. Romero, James Gunn
@@zombiebite100 does that not mean that those two wrote the script?
I could only stomach about 30 minutes of it before I turned it off. It was hands down one of the worst things I have seen in years.
now this i gotta see
Modern Hollywood
I switched it off after 10 minutes. It was so damn boring.
Felt that way about the first one. At home, late at night, watching this movie. Fell asleep at the climax. I don't fall asleep unless I'm really bored and disinterested. The film is candy for the eyes but has no substance. If I watch this I have to finish the first. And the last two movies I fell asleep in was the last PotC Movie and the RoboCop Remake. Not a good sign.
I think it was about the same time frame for me. Or whenever they started harvesting.
It was so funny watching the Native American guys’ axe bounce right off people in slow motion because they were so scared to show too much violence or any blood.
Also this is a minor gripe, but we saw that Tarak came from a British-styled victorian-esque world.
Which made his choice of weaponry and clothing even more confusing.
This guy comes from a world that doesn't look overly warm, and no-one else in Veldt feels like it's so warm that they need to wear less clothing. Why is he shirtless almost all of the time?!
@@lost_pantheon Yeah, that annoyed me too. Tarak feels like a Tarzan/Conan type character. When it was revealed that he was a Prince, I was expecting him to come from a jungle planet or something. I was actually taken aback with how modern his world was. The griffins flying around attacking the ships really contrasted with it too. If Tarak's kingdom was supposed to be similar to Wakanda, it sure didn't seem that way. Maybe Tarak's appearance is supposed to show that he's been on the run so long that he's had to learn how to use primitive weapons and survive in the wilderness, but that's never shown or explained. Also, Tarak's supposed to have "the ability to bond with animals of nature," but outside of that one scene in the first movie, we NEVER see him do it. He didn't even do it in the big battle they were all planning for. That would've been a big help, don't you think?
He isn't Native American, he's a mix of Russian and South Asian Indian.
@@nichoudha my b
And then you have 3 body problem with insane scenes
Pretentious would describe it better than melodrama imho
lol at Alex putting his head in his hands at 14:05 when OJ starts explaining “Scargiver” telling her lover what she did to the princess - I feel his pain!
"And Then, Something Even Stupider Happens -- The Movie"
43:08 The villagers clearly have the same population-replenishing powers as the Dothraki from Game of Thrones S8. Whenever the plot needs more of them, they just cut a few in half and the halves become individuals.
"they breed like orkz" was a thing in the books too, they could never give a good idea of how many millions were running around out there
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It's the power of Daario Naharis, which is also used by the other Daario Naharis serving the empire.
Lets face it. Zack is a Fanfiction writer that has somehow managed to get studios to make his shit.
Literally, everything is rule of cool or shit that sounds super profound and intelligent in his head, but the second anyone says it out loud it starts causing haemorrages.
BvS, JL and MoS is literally edgelord DC fanfiction
I think his style works with existing IP but original stuff he writes, not so much. It felt half baked and missing context.
@@Korra228 MoS could have worked if Pa Kent wasn't killed off and someone else wrote the ending.
Oh and if they color graded it better.
All the rest though are just stupid fanfiction.
@@donemu9096 I see your point. That ending was a total nightmare. It's like a 100 9/11s.
@@cajohnson130 Brother anyone can try to recreate the Comics. That's all he does and even that is not Comic accurate so the Suspension of disbelief is gone. None of the character minus Wonder woman were their characters from the comics, and even that Wonder woman never really truly becomes wonder woman from the comics, she's like a Conservative version of herself (I mean personality wise) when in the comics she's not at all.
Zack has always been crap and idk how or why people celebrated him minus visuals, but that's VFX crew and has little to do with him minus Directing the shots..The Actors are the only things that hold his creations together, this movie had zero good actors.
Zack wants emotional scenes with characters we dont connect with or dont care. There is no chemistry between the team either. Samurai lady died and im like,what did she actually do in the overall plot? Wasnt she this legendary assassin?
I felt that in the first scenes of the first film. Woman ploughing for space eggs. Epic music plays. Who are you...
Them having to turn a wheel to slowly aim a cannon on an interstellar ship made me check if I had not put on spaceballs by mistake
Snyder is obviously a fan of Warhammer 40k, but doesn't understand its often forgotten satirical roots. Its trying to say fascism sucks but Snyder like most 40k fans don't get subtext.
Oh yeah and he had TWO of those little wheels, one for panning and one for tilting. xD
2 hour long Angry Joe Show is more entertaining and coherent than Rebel Moon Part 2
I agree. I always hope that films are going to be really good. If not, the next best thing is the dissection.
"dollar store furiosa." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Normally i have no problem turning my brain off and just enjoy a movie/series. But MAN, every scene in this film had me saying: WTF!? Oh come on!! And i actually turned it off before the end, i couldn't take it anymore...
There's a big difference between a movie needing you to switch your brain off and one that requires you to starve it of oxygen.
I can only turn off my brain for movies that make it obvious to not take it seriously.
The problem is that Zack doesn't think he makes "turn your brain off" material, he thinks his work is meaningful and serious.
What exactly would be a good example of a movie/series to shut your brain off?
I usually imagine those are more visual movies like Fantasia. Not movies with dialogue.
But some action movies you don’t really need to follow the plot to understand. Which isn’t bad. But movies where you sit on autopilot is kinda weird to me.
Zach Snyder is the Aaron Rodger’s of directors. All hype, only one really good movie, and crumbles when you give him everything he wants.
Damn 😂
Hey, Aaron actually delivers!
Very few can throw 80 yards and make touchdowns!
Snyder should have quit after 300
This reminds me ranting about Aaron, comparing him with Alan Wake (the actor looks identical, Aaron is the bad version), the guy went from hero to villain so quickly
Watchmen, Sucker Punch, and Man Of Steel are the only movies I liked from him.
Everything else has been meh asf
"All hype" yet Rodgers will be in the Hall of Fame after he retires. Sure, he only won one Super Bowl but that's still 1 more than 95% of QBs in the league and he was consistently a great QB during his time at Green Bay. Guy's definitely a bit of a drama-queen, but he's been a damn good QB.
don’t you think if they had the technology to open portals…they would have high yield gmo crops growing on board the ship..eliminating the need to worry about finding food
Nah they need a load of grain hand farmed by peasants. There's no machine farms or anything with all their technology.
@@Darkpara1 Don't forget their coal powered dreadnoughts
I can believe that, since technology doesn't necessarily advances at the same rate in all areas, SW is an example in this...but why they need food if they can just open wormholes for instant travel?
@@Darkpara1Don’t forget about the floating cart that they were putting the grain on. And the guy using horse reins for the cart
@@rodrigobogado8756 I can't believe it personally. Just dumb. WE have access to gmos and can grow plants in space, if they don't have an accelerator for crops or even any crops at all on their gigantic space ship that travels faster than light, my suspension of disbelief is broken. Yeah, usually it's military shit that grows technologically the most, but in order to grow an army so large, there is no way you are just going from village to village for grain and you would need technology that helps with necessities. I don't believe it. If we want to be really realistic for something in a star wars era fictional world, they would have algae and krill farms which would then be used in futuristic food printers that can make anything you want.
It's two types of people in this world.
1. Those who are snyder fans
2. Those with functioning brain matter
Lol
I wonder how the people who enjoy these movies brain functions lol
Let's face it, Snyder panders to the IQ
I only enjoy MoS, 300, watchmen and JL snyder cut (even idk its from DC when i watched watchmen) the rest of his movies are pure garbo imo
300 Is fun but not a good movie technically. Watchmen is phenomenal and I really wonder how much influence he had on the writing because it doesn’t feel like a Snyder film outside of style. All his other movies are baaaad.
i really hope he will finish that trilogy cuz this recap was fucking hilarious
I watched this and was pleasantly suprised how fast the time felt and how i felt afterwards.
Cause I fell asleep during the grain harvesting scene and woke up pretty refreshed an hour later.
😂
i feel ashamed defending this good for nothing clown in the past, snyder is only good at "directing" and even then i've only ever liked a few of his films, watchmen, 300 and MOS.... when you give him too much creative control, you get absolute trash like rebel moon, unwatchable in everyway. so glad he got booted from DCU some of his idiotic plans like batman getting lois knocked up etc... what a tool
I would say he's terrible at directing too. All of his best received films are overtly based on existing stories.
Wait wait wait... he wanted Batman to do WHAT??
@@YoungMrKusuma Part of his scrapped plans.
@@YoungMrKusumaNTR superman, and might even let Batman get graped in prison. That's Snyder for you😂.
Thenn name the kid martha💀
Had great time watching this review, haven't watched a single minute of Rebel Moon but every minute of these reviews
I got a better plan.
Everyone hides underground somewhere away from their village but just leave a note saying like: Sorry, we have moved to a different planet, please forward all mail to Alpha Centari X11B
lol
Thats what I said to my family when she hid the shuttle ship in the waterfall. She could have hid the whole village right there with the water hiding their thermal readings
I live how they went with the whole...."Haircut means I'm ready for business" trope. For her to back down at the first sign of trouble.
I just like how OJ freaked out about her giving herself a fade with scissors.
I haven’t seen the movie, but it seems like Mr. Snyder has faith that the people watching don’t have critical thinking skills.
My big question would be "Was this, in fact, a half billion dollar effort?". It honestly feels like some sort of scam.
Feels like most films these days are just elaborate money laundering schemes.
Why else would they remake/reboot so many films that nobody even asked for?
Netflix got scammed
If you want to make yourself angry, think how many "they cancelled it?!" series' they could have kept going with that much money.
Nobody is addressing the scene when Kora activates the bombs on the ship and suddenly those blue eyes are looking at her?
What the hell was that about? Is the ship alive? I was so confused.
Yes they werent shovelling coal into it they were shovelling chocolate in it to feed it
They’re called kali, inter dimensional god-like beings enslaved by the Motherworld and used for hyper space travel.
@@fulcrum6760 They can do that but not grow some grain ?
@@GrimDarkNarrator I know right?
@@fulcrum6760 bruh, there were so many interesting ideas wasted in this shitty movies...
So anyone wanna explain to me why an empire that encompasses thousands of worlds needs this bit of grain so badly? No other worlds they could do it on? Or no way to set up a farm next door?
Despite having tech that can resurrect the dead, they apparently never heard of hydroponics.
It could be justifiable if it was actually set up in the film somewhere. Have the ship still take years to get anywhere, have them lose their food supply in a fight. Establish that they are such a cult that the soldiers have no idea how to do anything but maintain their weapons. So all the food replicators broke and no one knows how to fix them. Technology can be lost if the next generation never learns how to maintain that technology. But for a movie to feel coherent these thigs have to actually be shown in the film. If there's no plot involving food then the movie doesn't need to explain it. But the entire justification for the tension and plot of the movie is that they apparently need food, and it's never established properly why they need food.
You can't even have an empire that big without logistics. Like seriously, the mother world can't just send a convoy of supply ships?
The idea of plundering a village for food and supplies makes sense in Seven Samurai and The Magnificent Seven because they were set in a low tech era. The conceit of a hi-tech galaxy spanning empire needing wheat is stupid at a fundamental level; these aren’t opportunistic bandits, they are the rulers of the universe.
Not to mention we saw a city on the planet in the first one, so it's not like this little village is even the only population on the planet.
More plot holes than my favorite pair of underwear!
Your underwear has a plot?
@@antarchy1 It defiantly has a beginning and an end.
@@antarchy1the poop is the plot.
@@prathapkutty7407 Ahh, I was just making a grammar joke. But poop definitely has more substance than a Snyder flick.
@@prathapkutty7407 Probably would make for a more compelling movie than Revel Moon part 1 or part 2.
the sword lady got murked by like 5 dudes even though she had the chokepoint lmao, she would've done better with a suicide vest
Rebel Moon is a worst version of what Dune did. They had world building first movies(Dune was better but didnt really get me hyped for dune 2) yet Dune capitalized on its first movie world building and knocked it out the park with 2nd movie
I fell asleep in Dune 2.
You have to hevin the right mindset @@SlyTF1
@@SlyTF1 My fiance fell asleep watching it too so we had to watch it a second time so he could see the parts he missed.
‘Rebel Moon’ is when you order ‘Dune’ from Wish…
I think Dune 2 fell far short of what the predecessor was trying to build up to. It was at best alright and at worst slightly mediocre.
I like when the coal powered spacecraft that’s not in motion falls out of the sky like a ship sinks in water. Didn’t understand why it falls vertically other than to force the falling fight inside the ship.
Yeah if it was tilting then it would flip over end to end and stuff
Its actually pure pure genius zack goes outside the movie as he is the scar giver to the audience bravo 👏👏
Your assessments are spot on. The only thing you missed was during the blowing up of the engine scene, where the engine inexplicably has a face, and as Kora is placing the mines its eyes open up. What the hell was that for, why did the engine need a face?
Because Snyder thought it looked cool
I honestly thought it was going to be like a robot man or something they had to fight. But yeah, I totally forgot it had a face.
The novelization mentions the dreadnoughts have some godlike beings enslaved in them to power them or something... along with the coal engines I guess...
The sword lady, Nemesis had no business dying to three troopers (- ^ ) That's the most disappointing thing about this movie for me since it was so left-field from what we saw of her skills in part 1.
Skills? Skills?! The only reason the heroes didn’t absolutely get recked is because of PLOT armor.
Really? You were really invest even in the first movie? I watched this movie only to hear Angryjoe's trash it. And I couldn't even finish it. After 1h it was enough
@@jeanpierregabiro1424 No, part one was quite disappointing but the spider-lady fight was its highlight. I'm just pointing to how underwhelming and ridiculous it was to kill off a character that was shown to be very capable.
I would bet you she wanted to get out of contract when she realized that Zack is incoherent lunatic. Same with Charlie Dunnam in part 1. They are not stupid , they have to say these lines and ask director question like “who the fck talks like that?”
The first movie sucked so bad, she was like please kill me off, I'm done with this series!
Let's face it, Snyder panders to the IQ
No he’s not Kaythleen Kennedy because he pitched that shit to her FIRST and she refused him. This has to be some Netflix tax fraud or money lauder machine because I honestly dont know who tf in Netflix read that script and greenlighted it 😂
Yet, it was Kathleen Kennedy who shelved his project. Need I remind you she’s also the same producer who allowed Tony Gilroy to make ‘Andor’…
Random Film Talk brought up an amazing point. The presence of her dropship completely violates the first movie. It's not just "hey its lucky it only needed to remove some straw from its ports" it's "Why did they go get Kai and endure the whole first movie if they had a spaceship that could travel to the colloseum planet where general titus is?"
My question is, why are we supposed to wait for the directors cut EVERY single time? You don’t see Spielberg or Nolan tripping over themselves during interviews, promising how awesome the directors cut will be if we wait. With Zack, people say it’s never his fault if the movie doesn’t turn out well. It’s always the studios fault. But can we really blame Warner Bros or Netflix EVERY single time? Whatever his next film will be, I’m sure we’ll see the same song and dance. It’ll release to mixed reviews, but then he’ll explain to us how it wasn’t his true vision. And we need to wait for the R-rated Directors cut. Again. It’s almost a formula now.
Because he's a certified conman
Zack wanted to be like Ridley Scott. At least, Scott's best movies were better than Snyder's except for Dawn of the Dead since James Gunn wrote it.
@@jakey14344 agree like I used to like Zack 300 it my favorite movie but after find out what he want to do in the DCU bro can't write to save his life like he need someone to put him down like someone tell him that a terrible idea
I just wish people would ask “What exactly was cut that would make the story better? How would an R rating change the opinions of those who disliked the story and visuals?” Gore aside, how does changing the rating help a movie like this?
If it was a gory horror movie, of course. That’s the meat and potatoes for most horror movies. But action movies don’t need an abundance of gore, swearing, and nudity.
And meanwhile Villeneuve refuses to do extended editions of his films ☹️
10 mins of slowmotion of them harvesting crops...
Not sure if anyone on the Angry joe crew reads these comments but i think Joes idea of recording reaction/commentary like RLM would go over really well. You could post highlights at the end of a spoiler vid or just intercut the best parts.
Really needs to stay genuine so you'd have to be up for recording entire sessions and throwing them away if there just wasnt worth it, but i think i speak for everyone when i say I wish I heard Other Joes jokes lol
Hope you guys try it.
Yes, they got me interested in Oj's snarky remarks about the stupidity of the movies. I want to hear that, it sounds hilarious.
"So effing re....stupid" hahahahaha 14:45
Almost got 'em!
I’m way more intrested in seeing him try to defend this then actually watching the movie 😂😂😂😂
They gave this man the DCU absolutely mind blowing 😂😂😂😂
Would just like to point out cuz I heard Joe mention headshots, in actual military training you are taught to aim at chests. You have limited ammo and need to aim for the biggest area on your target. Logic that make perfect sense for farmers having to learn fast. This movie couldnt even do that right
I don’t own a firearm, but I’m pretty sure in basic gun defense you’re taught to aim for “center-mass” aka the chest, you don’t even need to have military training to know that
I litterally fast forwarded the movie until something intersesting happened.
So you fast forwarded through the entire thing?
@@nocturnalpie Almost. Definitely forwarded to most of the first half.😅
11:34 "Just because you give a rousing speech doesn't make the shit grow any faster, what are you talking about?" Shit had me rolling 😂
20:10 Pretentious. You call it pretentious. This series oozes it.
I didn't think anyone batch of baddies could be stupider and worse shots than Stormtroopers, but here we are. I've rarely seen a space-faring empire who had a worse grasp of battlefield tactics. What's the point of having projectile weapons just so they can march into melee range? They could have just picked off the whole village from the higher hills surrounding it.
With their aim they would have hit the precious grain - not an option to shoot from the hills. Melee range it is and only plasma weapons that cant deal with wooden structures; thats the responsible way in arming and fighting with that kind of soldiers.
Snipers have existed since the Stone Age with bows and rocks
Worse than Stormtroopers? Have the Stormtroopers ever done anything competent? I honestly think they are worse.
@@TheRedGauntlet They don't seem to fail as village massacres.
@@everforward5561 Making it cannon i Mandolorian that they are abd shots doesnt help them. Still think both are shit, but Stormtroopoer had bigger Ls
The whole grain harvest and preparing for defence reminds me a heck of a lot of Bugs Life in where they had to prepare a harvest for the bad guys but secretly preparing a defence in secret. .
A Bug’s Life is basically an insect-based remake of Seven Samurai, which is basically what Zack Snyder was ripping off for Rebel Moon. (Also Star Wars, Warhammer 40K and a little dash of Shakespeare.)
sucked when the "Hugh Jackman" looking guy fell to his death....seemed pointless. I liked that guy.
I knew this would be hilarious to check out immediately after watching the movie! You left out my favorite critique about the dreadnought design though which was not only does it run on coal, but the bridge can't control the main batteries. The bridge has to call to the main guns who then have to HAND CRANK the gun into position... like wtf
Assuming he's just co-opting George Lucas's WW1/WW2 imagery like in Star Wars.
I think Zack was trying to ape the Imperium of Man from 40ks technological style, which is both highly advanced compared to our modern day tech but backwards in its implementation. Such as the cannons on ships being manually loaded by crews of like a hundred dudes loading these massive shells in and people getting crushed all the time and stuff.
Also guys... you didn't mention it but remember the scene when she is planting the bombs on the core of the ship. That structure was like a female statue chained down and it opened it's eyes when she activated the charges.... wtf was that about??? And while she was setting up the charges she was almost crying like she was about to blow up a living creature... :D
Its the coal eating lady she eats the coal they shovel into the ship
Anyone else is noticing like many things in this movie feel like were written based on Rimworld but by someone who never played it?
@@permafrostyxman reading this does not make any of it better.
@@adam4vik938 i made it up zaddys lore says its a "kali" but its not a dancing four armed sword lady like in SMT and hindu so i couldnt tell
Or maybe he meant cali like a californian valley girl
The King's GAYS part had me full stop die laughing
I can explain why the villagers were all REALLY good fighters they were decendents of Fremen and Lisen Al Gieb
Netflix: Zack what do you need to make the next StarWars style movie?!
Zack: Weat and lots of slow motion!
Me: *having this on as background noise even though I'll never watch these movies*
AJ: The gaze is coming! The gaze is right around the corner. We mustn't fight the gaze!
Me: ...Wait...did they say the gays are coming?
Alex: The emperor's gaze are coming to get us!
Me: *pauses video to fact check*
Me: Oh...that is a poor choice of name for a faction!
I'm guessing it's because "Emperor's Hand" is Star Wars IP.
Did Snyder write this himself during the writers strike? "If they won't write it, I WILL!"😂😂💀💀
"Zack, WTF Man?!?!?!"
Is a quote i wish the characters said in the movie lol
It’s crazy how much Zach Snyder gets credit for being a good director but really has like 10 percent good ones and 90 percent flops
The scar giver is Zach Snyder giving all he who watch this a scar on their brain.
Hack Snyder lol
That assassination flashback scene had me dying laughing everything is so overdramatic and ridiculous I loved it 🤣🤣🤣
It's so strange to watch them purposefully show all these laser shots missing characters over and over, troops but when the tank opens fire it shoots one area in the town where no one is standing. Repeatedly. SO frustrating
Thankfully Snyder was not allowed to make stawars
Not like Rian Jhonson and JJ did a better job but yeah
@@juanjaramillo4270 I didn't want to seem like a hater for the sake of hype, but the last 2 Star Wars trilogy films have infinitely more personality and developments compared to these
@@futrecacao What personality Rey had?
When you are turn down by Kathleen Kennedy, damn...
@@TheRedGauntlet Whatever she had, it was 10 times better than kara or what's her name
After the princess scene I was like, "I'm done." I don't know what stupid Shakespeare shit they were going for.
The assassination was just a recreation of Julius Caesar being killed. Robes and all.
C3PO has literally plot armor. He could easily defeat everyone.
Why do they have coal shovelers in a dreadnought ship Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...............🤣🤣😒🤔😣😫😤🥴😑😑😑😑
I didn't even notice the spoiler section was 1 hour long. I had way more fun with it than the movie itself.
That was hilarious! 😂 you broke down pt2 so well. I just want zach to make another so that I can listen to you guys!!!
Expecting Zack Snyder to have coherent and consistant rules to his universe is novel and baffling concept, considering his track record.
There's overdramatic, and then there's melodramatic. Snyder does both.
At this point, I'm hoping it takes a turn into "Fast and the Furious" territory where it just keeps getting bigger and dumber until it collapses under its own weight and comes back better than ever....
Pretty sure it started at Fast and Furious 30 ... Beyond dumb
Nah, it’s the Monsterverse’s polar opposite.
No explanation for the ninja lady and the boy, a simple line earlier with sword lady saying 'I had a boy your age once, he was killed'.
lol like why would you just randomly say that to a kid?????
Don’t always agree with Alex but damn I love watching these three break down a bad movie like this. Y’all are way more entertaining than a lot of these movies
Go watch the 'Samurai 7' anime instead. Have cool characters (and an awesome robot samurai as well) fight gundams and capitalism. All the sci fi samurai action you need.
46:20 look at OJ, he’s completely lost it LLNWOA
I love the scene when the King is gonna get murdered and then the band parts and then Bolton says: The Lannister send their regards
I was at the world premier for this
The whole audience laughed all the way through it despite Zack and the entire cast being in the audience
Great night though!!😂😂
Oh my gosh did you get a look at their faces after the movie was over???????
They could have fixed that tunnel rat part by having one of the heroes say, 'We have these old tunnels under the village from qa previous war', but Snyder doesn't know how to make exposition, so no. They're just there.
I’m confused by time scales.
First they tell Noble it will take 9 weeks to harvest the grain, then he tells them he will be back in 10.
Then Kora and Gunnar make the two day ride to Providence, spend (I’m guessing) 8 or so weeks rounding up the Numpty Bunch, beat Noble, travel back to Providence, ride home again over 2 days and then the harvest will be ready?
I don’t think ZS understands how the passage of time works.
Not to mention, if interplanetary travel is that fast, why don't the bad guys just send a supply ship back to their nearest base to get their food supplies?
40 minutes in, I’m thinking how much slow motion farming are we going to have to see.
Can we talk about how 30 dudes ran into the engine room, facing the giant engine, walked right up to the front of the giant engine in the middle of the room and none of them noticed the 7 bright green bombs stuck to the front of the engine, 3 feet from their faces at head hight until 2 seconds before they blew up, that actually pissed me off enough that i laughed at it 😂🤣
I also laughed when gunner died and the main character basically said, "look Thorin, the eagles are coming" 😂😂😂
Hah I thought exactly the same thing about the bombs, they literally stood right next to them and didn’t notice they were there.
I’m surprised they didn’t mention it in the review.
"Oh no! That guy!" I said that exact same thing at that scene!! lmao
Also, didn't this random 12th century village just declare war on an intergalactic empire?? What exactly is stopping another dreadnought (or three) that don't "need" their grain, from blasting them from orbit?? Like, what?
Don't worry, he'll fix it with a 10 hour director's cut. 😂
Yes, our brain damage will be complete by then
2 hrs of farming in slowmo
Nowhere in this mess is there anything salvageable that can be made into a coherent story. Unless he throws it all away and starts again, it is unfixable.
14:00 I live for Alex's facepalms
So the million dollar question now is, was the battle scene in this better than the one at the end of Fallout?
I have tried multiple times to get through part 1 and still cant.
I thank Angry Joe and the crew for sitting through both to spare me the pain
"She blew up their coal engine" -Alex 😅 I couldn't believe they had men shoveling coal in furnaces in the space ship.
Remember they also traveled 5 days back to the planet, can you imagine how much coal they used for 5 days to run such a huge ship. How heavy the coal is.....Does Zach even know that there isn't enough coal to burn to make a rocket go past the ozone layer. Which is why we use fuel and nuclear technology 😅
33:36 I feel like this is the closest I've seen Alex to laughing lol, hilarious
Don't worry guys, this isn't Sniders TRUE vision, the studi- I mean netflix totally tampered with this version, he needs another 100 million to make the DEFINITIVE ULTIMATE edition that will be the greatest film ever made.
Again, just like every single one of his movies. He is the new Michael Bay.
The difference is that Michael Bay has no pretensions about what he's making.
You missed the scene when wounded Gunnar slides past Kora saying " help me, help me " and she ignores him.