I actually ran a 5k PB whilst listening to this episode! 19:22, first time under 20 minutes!!!!!! Thank you guys for the amazing channel and podcast, without you I think I never got to the point where I can celebrate this major milestone :)!!!
Smashed my 10k PB this week, from 1:07:xy to 59:45. I've had a couple of weeks of bad-feeling runs, took a few days off at the start of this week, then smashed this PB by like 8 minutes. It felt so good too. My first Half-Marathon race is in 2 weeks, and this was a big confidence boost after some discouraging long runs. Looking forward to tapering before this HM, and hoping for a solid time. 2:15:00 is my stretch goal.
What kind of PBs are you going for, mate? I'm in my thirties and am aiming for about a minute off my 5k and 10k time each year as I get older. Maybe more, who knows.
That's a good way to do things. I've just started running seriously this year, but my plan is to do a seasons' best for a lot of my times next year, like they do in the pros. It will give me the ability to always chase after something in all of my races, because it's true that it's impossible to always be setting a PB, but having a SB to go after is also good, especially if I'm at a point where my fitness isn't as good as it was in another season, the first races of the season it'll be good motivation to at least set an SB. And like you mentioned, once I'm older, with a lot of distances you set a PB when you're 25-30 and it's hard to break it later on, especially in shorter distances, so doing SBs means you're competing with yourself but on a level playing field. It's not fair to race your 22 year old self in the mile if you're 55. Or you can divide it by decades, you race yourself when you were 50 if you're 55, but not your overall lifetime best in a distance. Anyway, there's a lot of ways to still get that PB high, even if you're not at the right fitness level to go after your previous PBs due to injury or age.
I wish Strava would add a "seasonal best" feature starting every January 1. That upbeat feeling after a dreary winter's day slushy jog*, poof a "new 400m, 1 k and 5 k SB" (*speaking for the northern hemisphere, obviously).
@@dresden_slowjog I also think a 3k personal best would be a good idea - on Garmin, I mean. Because when your 3k time improves, that indicates you're getting closer to a 5k PB also.
‘Take the chance’ - Today I completed the TCS Sydney Marathon listening to episode after episode of the podcast en route. This one hit around the 32km mark and I’ve never needed to hear these words more. Thanks a bunch from this first time marathon runner!
I just smashed my 10K PB last Sunday, finally breaking that 40-minute barrier, and it felt awesome. However, it had almost gone wrong before it all started. Changing from my warm-up shoes (and socks) into my racing shoes - feeling very professional for doing so - I was about to go sock-shoe-sock-shoe, but fortunately your wise teachings came back to me, and I managed to shoe up in the correct manner.
In the last week I actually set two new PBs, my 5 km PB at 26:36 and I ran my first ever marathon and well naturally that was my PB at 4:52:30. The second one was a real struggle, but both have room for further improvement I believe. I have really gotten a lot of inspiration from this channel, especially Sarah's journey! Thank you all
Here's the sad truth (or maybe not) there will be a PB/PR for every distance that we'll never beat. That will forever be our best and that will be that. At age 58 I am coming to terms with the fact that the times I ran in my 30s may stand as my best times. I'd love to be wrong.
True. Unless you're a complete beginner in your 40s or 50s. There are guys on my Parkrun who easily smash a sub 20. I *assume* they were solid runners in their youth, but I don't know that for a fact. So I use it as inspiration to smash my own PBs in my thirties. Kind regards, mate.
Parkrun, and perhaps some other distances(?) have age-grade percentages. They are your new target. 70% is good. 80% is excellent. 90% is near world class.
I’m not sure if this angers me or frustrates me. I’ve been trying to break a six hour marathon for the last five marathons. I’ve been making small improvements and slowly lowering my time. Even if I was five seconds under my PB , I would be so ecstatic. I just think tempering expectations. However, today in Sydney, all the hard work paid off and I ran a PB finally breaking 6 hr. 5:41:06 (previous 6:08:41). Difference of 27 min 35 sec.
As you get older you can still age group % PB. So you are slower but you are further up the age group percentage. Great motivation to try and keep fit and healthy. 😊
I'm 47 in a few months, and at the beginning of this year was the fittest I've ever been. I've PB'd time after time, and it felt like it was just going to keep happening and then I got injured in July and am now having to build my fitness back up again, and all thoughts of PBing have just vanished. Getting older I'm worried that my PB days will be behind me soon if not already, but at the same time I think it's easier to just enjoy running when a PB is completely out of the question.
Switching to distance running from powerlifting and the biggest carry over is celebrating the small victories. It used to be extra reps, extra sets, and not necessarily an all-time PB. Now it's faster pace, lower heart rate, farther distance, quicker recovery, etc. Everything can be a PB if you haven't done it before.
hey Laurence, from the questions. Laurence here. I got over a two disc fusing.. it took much longer than I thought and I did put on a bunch of weight. However, I came back swinging in the end.. Respect how hard that operation is going to be on your body . You are a very strong man. Your running come back from this. but right now, your body is a machine working on fixing itself give it all the energy and time that it needs. Personally, I wouldn’t cut back calories at all! Your body is trying to fuse bone at 59 years old! That’s harder than running a pb! Best of luck, you’ll be fine
It's mad how you've addressed this at this point of my running journey. I PB'd parkrun back in May doing a sub 22min. I was well chuffed and set my next goal as sub 21min knowing it would take me a while and some more structured training. Yet I've completely stagnated and finding it really tough to even get back under 22min. I've incorporated lots of training that I hadn't done previously like hill sprints, strides and intervals aswell as doing longer long runs ensuring I'm keeping some of my runs at lower intensities. I'm just trying to be patient with it as with my other pbs, there's just been a switch where it just happened, yet in the back of my mind there's a niggle that maybe that's it, that's the peak. It's an interesting mental battle.
Oh I relate so much with this! Once I went sub-30 for the first time in March, I decided I wanted a sub 25 5K. Managed to do a 25:33 in early July and I’ve mentally stagnated since then. Been struggling to hit the target paces in workout. I’m just not that fast! The long term goal is a sub 2 hour half marathon by mid October, so any 5K gains are just ‘free’ side effects! It is so hard to get the balance right isn’t it.
I just smashed my pb in a 21km - 1:35:54, and it felt great. This being a tuneup race in a marathon build upb (5 weeks to go), I wasn't expecting anything special .
At the 3.5k mark during what ended up being my 5k PB, there was a table announcing people as they went by. I was in a pack, so they just said “look at these runners, having so much fun!” I yelled back “no, we’re really not!” The pack pretty much all cracked up.
I came perilously close to being sick as I crossed the finish line of the Alcester 10k in 2021. This was because I’d pushed myself so hard to run it under an hour and get a PB. Within 10 minutes I was eating a cookie 😅
Got my first 5k pb in 7 months today 🎉 Started parkrun much closer to the front than usual and just tried (hard) to keep up. Ended up gaining about 1.5 mins over the fastest of the last 30 odd parkruns!
I'd always thought I was a hardcore sock sock shoe shoe person but I'd never thought of swimming pool changing rooms... I think I am having an identity crisis now
Did a PB yesterday (23:58) on a fairly difficult parkrun course, and felt like death for the rest of the day because I hadn't finished recovering from a bout of gastro. I'd also slacked off on training for 2 weeks for a holiday and because of a cold. I still need to learn how to ease myself back into training properly!
I'm watching this as I get ready for Sydney Marathon, which will be my first ever marathon. So it's a guaranteed PB (assuming I finish it)! On the points of setting PBs after injury or life changes, I'm feeling that at the moment. I had been setting PB after PB in the 5k, and was just shy of my long-term goal of a sub-20 parkrun when I injured myself a couple of months back. My cardio took a massive beating during my recovery and I am still not 100% recovered. I know I'd be pushing it to run a 25-minute Parkrun at the moment. I know this will tank my motivation when I get back into Parkrun, because even if I'm improving, I'm still falling short. After today I'm going to take a bit of time to fully recover and properly heal, and then my plan is to re-focus on the 5k. I am going to "forget" about my previous PB and start afresh. I'll treat my next Parkrun time as my new (slower) PB, then work on getting post-injury PBs. I aim to mentally celebrate them as if they were real PBs as I gradually shave time off towards my long-term goal of running a sub-20.
You know, I enjoy the banter, I appreciate the science, but when you got philosophical with this one, it was fascinating. Especially to hear about Andy's thought processes. I have pbs at 10km (0:56) and half-marathon (2:07) set off relatively little training about three decades ago. Swapped sports to one where weather has such a huge influence that pbs are only partly within one's control. Picking up running again is a bit of a mindset change again, hopefully the years in between will have taught me to be more relaxed about pb-ing! (I still remember the stick I got from my flatmates when my second half-marathon was slower that my first. Haven't run one since but to be fair that's unrelated...) I better had, because thirty years and serious illness later, it's unrealistic to think I'll ever get back to those times. Anyway, looking forward to the Running Channel handing me a first drink after a race, sometime... :-)
Just set a PB in the 50k trail race, this was my 3rd time at this event and took 53 minutes off last year’s time. 6:05 down to 5:12. And in true Canadian fashion the race started with a bear warning and at least one person saw him out there.
I was actually listening to this while running a 10k pb! Was going for a sub 50 and got 49:33 which im very happy with, 10k is my least favourite distance but wanted to knock the sub 50 out the way! Rick's advice at the 5k mark was very useful, I ran slightly faster and finished slightly faster 💪 cheers! 😂
Was listening to this on apple podcast and heard Rick going for 2:05 HM and I couldnt believe my ears. Here I am targetting 2:15 and thinking of moving it to 2:20 for my 1st ever HM.
I broke my 5km PB this year (after 6 yrs) but it took a couple of minutes to get the realisation. I'd wanted sub-21 and as I approached the line, the time was on the cusp (I forgot about chip timing in the moment). When I crossed the line initially, I was a bit gutted (and completely out-of-breath) about missing 21mins, and it took a couple of minutes for me to actually look at my watch and realise I'd run 20.59!
Re: recovery post-operation, as someone in his 50s who had cancer treatment last year (and is back running now), you will need more calories than basal metabolic rate to heal up post-op. If your body is not getting basal metabolic calories in, it will not have anything spare to heal up, especially when cell regeneration in your 50s is slower than for spring chickens like Rick and Andy (and Sarah, but in the context of significant convalescence, Rick and Andy). Do not underestimate how much your treatment will take out of you, so celebrating the milestones on the recovery is important. As well as eating well, taking additional protein will help with healing and restoring atrophied muscle. I currently take a scoop of whey protein twice a day since treatment. As for PBs, for the last five years I've been comparing my race times with age grades. It's so much better for the soul than looking at the PBs I set in my teens, twenties and thirties!
Ran a parkrun PB on the Saturday just gone 23:45 finally after years of trying to break 25 now much easier to run under 25. PB season will finish soon once the temperature rises.
It aint much but I just got my 5k PB last weekend at 26:28. I wasn't expecting much and had my pacer on my watch set for 27:30 but ended up not looking at it during the race because i was feeling good and just ran what I was feeling. The first 5k I ran this year was a 37:00 so I felt really good about a 10 minute improvement
Love the pod cast love to go on a race with Sarah. I'm doing Amsterdam marathon in 4 weeks looking for a PB 3hrs 49mins is the aim my pb at the min is 3hrs 55mins 50 sec Feeling like I can do it if conditions are right Love you guys xxx Andy xx
Took 3.5 minutes off my 5k a couple weeks ago and it felt pretty amazing even though I finished with a new injury *cries*. I’m in the beginning stages of my running journey so I have not been doing speed work or structured training beyond gradually increasing my weekly mileage and long runs over the last 7 months. I don’t even have a watch. I know my limiting factor is still fitness and now I’m just excited to see what I can do with the next 6-12 months. If anything it’s made me feel even more like I have incredible potential. Newbie gains are great haha.
Commenting whilst watching... I'm finding that focussing on a Seasons Best is a good way to stay focussed and to compete with yourself. That way you aren't dissapoiinted that you can't hit your older PBs from when you were in peak condition.
Andy, I too tend to get re-acquainted with my last meal after a hard effort. It’s a savage way to end a race but it’s sometimes part of the price of a PB.
Every time I hear ya'll talk about Parkrun I get jealous. Not really anything like that over here in the states. Nearest parkrun is 1.5 hour drive away. We have great running clubs that put on events maybe every month or so but having a 5k parkrun every weekend would be so cool. I looked at the parkrun map and like, there's 100's of them all over the place over there! You can do a different parkrun all the time! So cool. I'd love that culture to catch on over here but it doesn't really seem like it will to me
Just PB'd a half marathon this morning and there was definitely a point at about 14 kms (sorry for you milers you'll have to figure out how to measure it the wrong way yourselves) where I could not get out of my head that I did not belong with all these great runners. I could feel my legs fatiguing and I was attempting a negative split so the pace only was getting quicker. Overall, the race was wonderful but I very much get the whole self doubt during race day. The last half of the race was a constant battle to deny that wobble, but I feel like my hard training has helped me to maintain that push. When my place did keep up for a few kms it was fuel to keep it up. I'm taking it as a sign to train harder during my build phase.
Smashed my first official HM last week finishing at a time of 2:30:56 where in my non official record is around 2:55 or 2:56 (it was around April this year and couldn't remember exact time). My aim for that race is to finish in 2:45 but got more than I asked for. Funny enough, after I finish the race, I was disappointed that I missed by 57seconds to be sub 2:30. I was complaining why didnt I push just that little more even though I PBed in 10k, 15k, 10M, 20k and HM that day 😂😂
I have a very fast parkrun near me, where I do care about my outright PB. Otherwise, I do have a benchmark time in mind for other parkruns, depending on course difficulty, but I’m not massively fussed either way if I do or don’t achieve my course PB
Oh boy, I once ran a junior olympics regional cross country race in high school and finished in the top 10 of a hundred or more runners. The finish shoot was just too long and I got sick before I could find a trash can. It wasn't a PB because the course was very hilly. It was embarrassing. I got sick two other times in my racing days. Once in practice and once after the steeplechase. On the track, yeah, I tend to agree with Andy about PBs occurring in races where I was being competitive. Sometimes if you really don't know your pace/splits, you can't get it in your head that you can't do it. Andy, you could try the steeplechase for a PB if you didn't in your younger days. It's so much fun 😬😒
Unless on the same course, similar weather conditions, I try to take getting or not getting a pb with a grain of salt. Try to soak it in and if you get a PB it's icing on the cake for all the work to have a chance of getting one. If it doesn't happen, but you gave it all you had on the day then you still learn things. But don't beat yourself up for not getting it, especially if it's not weather conditions that suite you and or the course is different that the PB course.
Last week my speed session (only 2nd time running on a track) was 10 mins warm up, 12 x 400m at interval, 90 secs recovery and 10 mins cool down Stopped the watch….. 10km PB unintentional
28:23 Bailey wasn’t injured/didn’t pull up. He also seemed pretty happy to have a rematch. Johnson seems to have wanted no part of a rematch. Just sayi’n. Yes I’m Canadian.😂
i did a pb for 5k 5 years ago and to be honest it was the run of my life it was hot 40% but i enjoyed it so much and was later i learned it was a pb making it even more a great run i knew i was fast but didnt relise it was that fast
For me life time PB’s are still there at 57 as I am newer to running (3years) I also believe that your PB’s can be for the stage of life or after a significant event ie Cancer, significant injury. Expecting to constantly beat your lifespan time is unreasonable. Age,injury and life can change you physically and mentally. Just look at younger runners may train 3 times a week and then older not as fast but training 6 days a week to achieve there current goal. AND I am a left sock, left shoe, right sock, then right shoe every time.
My PB days are done I fear outside of some weird races i do like a half marathon up a mountain. I guess if/when I do a marathon itll be a PB tho. I just try and keep to within 1% of my time from last year at any given race and use that as my motivation.
At the age of 59, every race is a PB 😅 Seriouly though, if you are managing to maintain or run close to times that you ran 5 yrs ago, that is a great age graded PB. That is the pep talk I always give myself.
Currently training for a 5k PB (sub-20) ever since I hit 20:44 at my local (lumpy) parkrun. Tthe training is tough, so I'm hoping the feeling will be worth it! Although I'll probably just feel like I need an ambulance 😂
I’m proud of most of my. current PB’s, particularly as I only took up running properly at the end of last year, but at the time I wasn’t for my 5k. I got my HM PB at the GNR this year (1:25) which I was super proud of immediately, as it was 2 mins faster than my old PB and the GNR was a tougher course than the course my old PB was set at My 5k PB I am very proud of though (17:30) but my 10k one (38:01) I feel should be a minute faster even though it’s still really good
I set a PB today but I felt while running it that I wasn’t doing my best and running felt though and I was thinking I’m not doing my best and then I crossed the line and thought I had done rubbish finished 364 but I took 30s off my 5km time
Went to parkrun last weekend to get 5k below 23 minutes. Ran 22:06. Chuffed. Then disappointed I couldn't find those 6 seconds somewhere. Then chuffed again.
An actual PB race attempt feels horrible. Last 8k race I was in a coma for the last 5k and barely saw where I was running. Total tunnel vision. HR at 97.5% max for kilometers 4(massive hill) and 8. Wanted to quit so many times but didn't. Non race PB feels a lot better.
I am not a PBs fun. I am not focusing on PBs, rather on enjoying the running and how it makes me feel. Enjoying it makes me consistent and that brings improvements on its own. Pushing so hard that I do not enjoy it, makes me feel sick and look forward to the end of session, all this is pushing me away from consistency.
Crocs and adults should not mix, I'd far rather sock-shoe, sock-shoe!😂 At home, sock, sock, shoe, shoe; outdoors sock-shoe, sock-shoe to keep feet, socks and insides of shoes/boots dry and clean. No chance of messing up and dabbing something clean into wet grass, mud, or anything else come to think of it.
What you guys are pointing out is that Runners don't train themselves enough mentally. All the issues you bring up are mental issues. We spend time on training physically, nutrition, strength, but no conscious focus on what impacts our running as much as anything....the mental side.
I'm not going to lie... TRC did ruin my mindset towards wearing shoes. Historically it was sock-sock-shoe-shoe... Ever since the discussion in these podcasts I've gone the other way... It's disgusting but I've changed!
Perhaps it is time to look at PBs another way. How SLOW can you run your distance? Would save our broken bodies and minds from harm and guarantee loads of PB's to make you happy.
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I actually ran a 5k PB whilst listening to this episode! 19:22, first time under 20 minutes!!!!!! Thank you guys for the amazing channel and podcast, without you I think I never got to the point where I can celebrate this major milestone :)!!!
First time under 20 and you go and run a 19:22! That sounds like a huge PB! well
Done bro 💪
@@Antellathletic1903 thanks man! That’s really kind :)!!
Smashed my 10k PB this week, from 1:07:xy to 59:45.
I've had a couple of weeks of bad-feeling runs, took a few days off at the start of this week, then smashed this PB by like 8 minutes.
It felt so good too.
My first Half-Marathon race is in 2 weeks, and this was a big confidence boost after some discouraging long runs.
Looking forward to tapering before this HM, and hoping for a solid time. 2:15:00 is my stretch goal.
Getting older (55) I look at my PB's on an annual perspective, reset every year and then I have several PB's to chase for 12 months
What kind of PBs are you going for, mate? I'm in my thirties and am aiming for about a minute off my 5k and 10k time each year as I get older. Maybe more, who knows.
@magnushartell this is a good way. You could also look at the age index.
That's a good way to do things. I've just started running seriously this year, but my plan is to do a seasons' best for a lot of my times next year, like they do in the pros. It will give me the ability to always chase after something in all of my races, because it's true that it's impossible to always be setting a PB, but having a SB to go after is also good, especially if I'm at a point where my fitness isn't as good as it was in another season, the first races of the season it'll be good motivation to at least set an SB.
And like you mentioned, once I'm older, with a lot of distances you set a PB when you're 25-30 and it's hard to break it later on, especially in shorter distances, so doing SBs means you're competing with yourself but on a level playing field. It's not fair to race your 22 year old self in the mile if you're 55.
Or you can divide it by decades, you race yourself when you were 50 if you're 55, but not your overall lifetime best in a distance. Anyway, there's a lot of ways to still get that PB high, even if you're not at the right fitness level to go after your previous PBs due to injury or age.
I wish Strava would add a "seasonal best" feature starting every January 1. That upbeat feeling after a dreary winter's day slushy jog*, poof a "new 400m, 1 k and 5 k SB" (*speaking for the northern hemisphere, obviously).
@@dresden_slowjog I also think a 3k personal best would be a good idea - on Garmin, I mean. Because when your 3k time improves, that indicates you're getting closer to a 5k PB also.
‘Take the chance’ - Today I completed the TCS Sydney Marathon listening to episode after episode of the podcast en route. This one hit around the 32km mark and I’ve never needed to hear these words more. Thanks a bunch from this first time marathon runner!
I just smashed my 10K PB last Sunday, finally breaking that 40-minute barrier, and it felt awesome.
However, it had almost gone wrong before it all started. Changing from my warm-up shoes (and socks) into my racing shoes - feeling very professional for doing so - I was about to go sock-shoe-sock-shoe, but fortunately your wise teachings came back to me, and I managed to shoe up in the correct manner.
My 10k PB is 55m currently. Sub 40 seems so cool to be able to run 10k as fast as my first timed 5k...
Maybe one day
In the last week I actually set two new PBs, my 5 km PB at 26:36 and I ran my first ever marathon and well naturally that was my PB at 4:52:30. The second one was a real struggle, but both have room for further improvement I believe. I have really gotten a lot of inspiration from this channel, especially Sarah's journey! Thank you all
Just today I smashed my 10k PB! It was 45:09 now 43:53 very happy with that.
Here's the sad truth (or maybe not) there will be a PB/PR for every distance that we'll never beat. That will forever be our best and that will be that. At age 58 I am coming to terms with the fact that the times I ran in my 30s may stand as my best times. I'd love to be wrong.
True. Unless you're a complete beginner in your 40s or 50s. There are guys on my Parkrun who easily smash a sub 20. I *assume* they were solid runners in their youth, but I don't know that for a fact. So I use it as inspiration to smash my own PBs in my thirties. Kind regards, mate.
Parkrun, and perhaps some other distances(?) have age-grade percentages. They are your new target. 70% is good. 80% is excellent. 90% is near world class.
@goodyeoman4534 we weren't. I couldn't run a mile at age 33. Now at 42 I can do a sub 20.
@@kris1103 Fair one. But 33 is pretty young and would give you 7 years of training before reaching 40, which is ample time to get a sub 20.
I’m not sure if this angers me or frustrates me. I’ve been trying to break a six hour marathon for the last five marathons. I’ve been making small improvements and slowly lowering my time. Even if I was five seconds under my PB , I would be so ecstatic. I just think tempering expectations. However, today in Sydney, all the hard work paid off and I ran a PB finally breaking 6 hr. 5:41:06 (previous 6:08:41). Difference of 27 min 35 sec.
As you get older you can still age group % PB. So you are slower but you are further up the age group percentage. Great motivation to try and keep fit and healthy. 😊
I'm 47 in a few months, and at the beginning of this year was the fittest I've ever been. I've PB'd time after time, and it felt like it was just going to keep happening and then I got injured in July and am now having to build my fitness back up again, and all thoughts of PBing have just vanished. Getting older I'm worried that my PB days will be behind me soon if not already, but at the same time I think it's easier to just enjoy running when a PB is completely out of the question.
53, took 5months to come back from Achilles this year, pb’d 5k yesterday. Top 2inches 💪
@@ianjames3078 that's awesome (the PB not the time out!), well done!
Switching to distance running from powerlifting and the biggest carry over is celebrating the small victories. It used to be extra reps, extra sets, and not necessarily an all-time PB. Now it's faster pace, lower heart rate, farther distance, quicker recovery, etc. Everything can be a PB if you haven't done it before.
hey Laurence, from the questions. Laurence here. I got over a two disc fusing.. it took much longer than I thought and I did put on a bunch of weight. However, I came back swinging in the end..
Respect how hard that operation is going to be on your body . You are a very strong man. Your running come back from this.
but right now, your body is a machine working on fixing itself give it all the energy and time that it needs.
Personally, I wouldn’t cut back calories at all! Your body is trying to fuse bone at 59 years old! That’s harder than running a pb!
Best of luck, you’ll be fine
It's mad how you've addressed this at this point of my running journey. I PB'd parkrun back in May doing a sub 22min. I was well chuffed and set my next goal as sub 21min knowing it would take me a while and some more structured training. Yet I've completely stagnated and finding it really tough to even get back under 22min. I've incorporated lots of training that I hadn't done previously like hill sprints, strides and intervals aswell as doing longer long runs ensuring I'm keeping some of my runs at lower intensities. I'm just trying to be patient with it as with my other pbs, there's just been a switch where it just happened, yet in the back of my mind there's a niggle that maybe that's it, that's the peak. It's an interesting mental battle.
Oh I relate so much with this! Once I went sub-30 for the first time in March, I decided I wanted a sub 25 5K. Managed to do a 25:33 in early July and I’ve mentally stagnated since then. Been struggling to hit the target paces in workout. I’m just not that fast!
The long term goal is a sub 2 hour half marathon by mid October, so any 5K gains are just ‘free’ side effects!
It is so hard to get the balance right isn’t it.
I just smashed my pb in a 21km - 1:35:54, and it felt great. This being a tuneup race in a marathon build upb (5 weeks to go), I wasn't expecting anything special .
At the 3.5k mark during what ended up being my 5k PB, there was a table announcing people as they went by. I was in a pack, so they just said “look at these runners, having so much fun!” I yelled back “no, we’re really not!” The pack pretty much all cracked up.
I came perilously close to being sick as I crossed the finish line of the Alcester 10k in 2021. This was because I’d pushed myself so hard to run it under an hour and get a PB. Within 10 minutes I was eating a cookie 😅
Got my first 5k pb in 7 months today 🎉
Started parkrun much closer to the front than usual and just tried (hard) to keep up.
Ended up gaining about 1.5 mins over the fastest of the last 30 odd parkruns!
makes such a difference starting near the front in park run!
I'd always thought I was a hardcore sock sock shoe shoe person but I'd never thought of swimming pool changing rooms... I think I am having an identity crisis now
Did a PB yesterday (23:58) on a fairly difficult parkrun course, and felt like death for the rest of the day because I hadn't finished recovering from a bout of gastro. I'd also slacked off on training for 2 weeks for a holiday and because of a cold. I still need to learn how to ease myself back into training properly!
I'm watching this as I get ready for Sydney Marathon, which will be my first ever marathon. So it's a guaranteed PB (assuming I finish it)!
On the points of setting PBs after injury or life changes, I'm feeling that at the moment. I had been setting PB after PB in the 5k, and was just shy of my long-term goal of a sub-20 parkrun when I injured myself a couple of months back. My cardio took a massive beating during my recovery and I am still not 100% recovered. I know I'd be pushing it to run a 25-minute Parkrun at the moment. I know this will tank my motivation when I get back into Parkrun, because even if I'm improving, I'm still falling short.
After today I'm going to take a bit of time to fully recover and properly heal, and then my plan is to re-focus on the 5k. I am going to "forget" about my previous PB and start afresh. I'll treat my next Parkrun time as my new (slower) PB, then work on getting post-injury PBs. I aim to mentally celebrate them as if they were real PBs as I gradually shave time off towards my long-term goal of running a sub-20.
Update: I finished the marathon in about 3:38, which is only 18 minutes slower than my pre-injury target!
You know, I enjoy the banter, I appreciate the science, but when you got philosophical with this one, it was fascinating. Especially to hear about Andy's thought processes.
I have pbs at 10km (0:56) and half-marathon (2:07) set off relatively little training about three decades ago. Swapped sports to one where weather has such a huge influence that pbs are only partly within one's control. Picking up running again is a bit of a mindset change again, hopefully the years in between will have taught me to be more relaxed about pb-ing! (I still remember the stick I got from my flatmates when my second half-marathon was slower that my first. Haven't run one since but to be fair that's unrelated...) I better had, because thirty years and serious illness later, it's unrealistic to think I'll ever get back to those times.
Anyway, looking forward to the Running Channel handing me a first drink after a race, sometime... :-)
Just set a PB in the 50k trail race, this was my 3rd time at this event and took 53 minutes off last year’s time. 6:05 down to 5:12. And in true Canadian fashion the race started with a bear warning and at least one person saw him out there.
I was actually listening to this while running a 10k pb! Was going for a sub 50 and got 49:33 which im very happy with, 10k is my least favourite distance but wanted to knock the sub 50 out the way!
Rick's advice at the 5k mark was very useful, I ran slightly faster and finished slightly faster 💪 cheers! 😂
Was really greatful for the motivation on my run while listening to this. Any chance you could make it a regular thing.
Was listening to this on apple podcast and heard Rick going for 2:05 HM and I couldnt believe my ears. Here I am targetting 2:15 and thinking of moving it to 2:20 for my 1st ever HM.
I broke my 5km PB this year (after 6 yrs) but it took a couple of minutes to get the realisation. I'd wanted sub-21 and as I approached the line, the time was on the cusp (I forgot about chip timing in the moment).
When I crossed the line initially, I was a bit gutted (and completely out-of-breath) about missing 21mins, and it took a couple of minutes for me to actually look at my watch and realise I'd run 20.59!
1:09 in and I already know it's going to be a banger
Re: recovery post-operation, as someone in his 50s who had cancer treatment last year (and is back running now), you will need more calories than basal metabolic rate to heal up post-op. If your body is not getting basal metabolic calories in, it will not have anything spare to heal up, especially when cell regeneration in your 50s is slower than for spring chickens like Rick and Andy (and Sarah, but in the context of significant convalescence, Rick and Andy). Do not underestimate how much your treatment will take out of you, so celebrating the milestones on the recovery is important. As well as eating well, taking additional protein will help with healing and restoring atrophied muscle. I currently take a scoop of whey protein twice a day since treatment.
As for PBs, for the last five years I've been comparing my race times with age grades. It's so much better for the soul than looking at the PBs I set in my teens, twenties and thirties!
Amazing I love this ❤
Managed to get a pb today at Parkrun 20:53 with pb on 1 mile, and 2 mile too. Hours later and I'm still buzzing about it
Ran a parkrun PB on the Saturday just gone 23:45 finally after years of trying to break 25 now much easier to run under 25. PB season will finish soon once the temperature rises.
It aint much but I just got my 5k PB last weekend at 26:28. I wasn't expecting much and had my pacer on my watch set for 27:30 but ended up not looking at it during the race because i was feeling good and just ran what I was feeling. The first 5k I ran this year was a 37:00 so I felt really good about a 10 minute improvement
This year I beat my pb with a half marathon and time was down 15 minutes! Felt so good!
Love the pod cast love to go on a race with Sarah.
I'm doing Amsterdam marathon in 4 weeks looking for a PB 3hrs 49mins is the aim my pb at the min is 3hrs 55mins 50 sec
Feeling like I can do it if conditions are right
Love you guys xxx Andy xx
Took 3.5 minutes off my 5k a couple weeks ago and it felt pretty amazing even though I finished with a new injury *cries*. I’m in the beginning stages of my running journey so I have not been doing speed work or structured training beyond gradually increasing my weekly mileage and long runs over the last 7 months. I don’t even have a watch. I know my limiting factor is still fitness and now I’m just excited to see what I can do with the next 6-12 months. If anything it’s made me feel even more like I have incredible potential. Newbie gains are great haha.
New 5k PB this week, 22:34! Started at 29:00 last October. Got sub-25 in March and managed sub-23 this week!
Commenting whilst watching... I'm finding that focussing on a Seasons Best is a good way to stay focussed and to compete with yourself. That way you aren't dissapoiinted that you can't hit your older PBs from when you were in peak condition.
Andy, I too tend to get re-acquainted with my last meal after a hard effort. It’s a savage way to end a race but it’s sometimes part of the price of a PB.
Every time I hear ya'll talk about Parkrun I get jealous. Not really anything like that over here in the states. Nearest parkrun is 1.5 hour drive away. We have great running clubs that put on events maybe every month or so but having a 5k parkrun every weekend would be so cool. I looked at the parkrun map and like, there's 100's of them all over the place over there! You can do a different parkrun all the time! So cool. I'd love that culture to catch on over here but it doesn't really seem like it will to me
Just PB'd a half marathon this morning and there was definitely a point at about 14 kms (sorry for you milers you'll have to figure out how to measure it the wrong way yourselves) where I could not get out of my head that I did not belong with all these great runners. I could feel my legs fatiguing and I was attempting a negative split so the pace only was getting quicker. Overall, the race was wonderful but I very much get the whole self doubt during race day. The last half of the race was a constant battle to deny that wobble, but I feel like my hard training has helped me to maintain that push. When my place did keep up for a few kms it was fuel to keep it up. I'm taking it as a sign to train harder during my build phase.
Smashed my first official HM last week finishing at a time of 2:30:56 where in my non official record is around 2:55 or 2:56 (it was around April this year and couldn't remember exact time). My aim for that race is to finish in 2:45 but got more than I asked for. Funny enough, after I finish the race, I was disappointed that I missed by 57seconds to be sub 2:30. I was complaining why didnt I push just that little more even though I PBed in 10k, 15k, 10M, 20k and HM that day 😂😂
Heslington Parkun (a 5 lapper) often has a high-vis hero calling out the time the whole time. So you get an update every 1k lap!
I'm all in for Rick's "odd" PB times! Multiples of 5 are fair game.
My trick is to simply not care about times. A PB can be nice, but honestly, me doing parkrun a bit faster is not that important to the world or me.
I have a very fast parkrun near me, where I do care about my outright PB. Otherwise, I do have a benchmark time in mind for other parkruns, depending on course difficulty, but I’m not massively fussed either way if I do or don’t achieve my course PB
Oh boy, I once ran a junior olympics regional cross country race in high school and finished in the top 10 of a hundred or more runners. The finish shoot was just too long and I got sick before I could find a trash can. It wasn't a PB because the course was very hilly. It was embarrassing. I got sick two other times in my racing days. Once in practice and once after the steeplechase. On the track, yeah, I tend to agree with Andy about PBs occurring in races where I was being competitive. Sometimes if you really don't know your pace/splits, you can't get it in your head that you can't do it.
Andy, you could try the steeplechase for a PB if you didn't in your younger days. It's so much fun 😬😒
Loving podcast
I ran a parkrun 5k pb of 20:45 yesterday and my avg heart rate was 152 (my max is 197)! So I think a sub 20 parkrun is within reach!
Just got a Half marathon PB yesterday in the middle of my marathon training block! 1:44:04 beating my last one by over 4 minutes!
Unless on the same course, similar weather conditions, I try to take getting or not getting a pb with a grain of salt. Try to soak it in and if you get a PB it's icing on the cake for all the work to have a chance of getting one. If it doesn't happen, but you gave it all you had on the day then you still learn things. But don't beat yourself up for not getting it, especially if it's not weather conditions that suite you and or the course is different that the PB course.
I’ve beaten my 5km PB twice & 10km PB twice this year so far 💪
Last week my speed session (only 2nd time running on a track) was 10 mins warm up, 12 x 400m at interval, 90 secs recovery and 10 mins cool down
Stopped the watch….. 10km PB unintentional
My Pb last weekend had taken me by surprise tbh. A hilly course i beat my 5k time by 3 minutes 😮 been training really consistently since april.
I like Andy's shirt.
Suggestion: use the Age Grading Score for your PB. This gives you a chance of breaking your PB time as you get older...
28:23
Bailey wasn’t injured/didn’t pull up. He also seemed pretty happy to have a rematch. Johnson seems to have wanted no part of a rematch.
Just sayi’n.
Yes I’m Canadian.😂
i did a pb for 5k 5 years ago and to be honest it was the run of my life it was hot 40% but i enjoyed it so much and was later i learned it was a pb making it even more a great run i knew i was fast but didnt relise it was that fast
For me life time PB’s are still there at 57 as I am newer to running (3years)
I also believe that your PB’s can be for the stage of life or after a significant event ie Cancer, significant injury. Expecting to constantly beat your lifespan time is unreasonable. Age,injury and life can change you physically and mentally. Just look at younger runners may train 3 times a week and then older not as fast but training 6 days a week to achieve there current goal.
AND I am a left sock, left shoe, right sock, then right shoe every time.
Up to 20m. Marathon due 20th October. I am never out of breath but damn the body is a wreck afterwards :)
My PB days are done I fear outside of some weird races i do like a half marathon up a mountain. I guess if/when I do a marathon itll be a PB tho. I just try and keep to within 1% of my time from last year at any given race and use that as my motivation.
Enjoy going for a PB, that is amazing at my age a completion is a accomplishment.
At the age of 59, every race is a PB 😅
Seriouly though, if you are managing to maintain or run close to times that you ran 5 yrs ago, that is a great age graded PB. That is the pep talk I always give myself.
Currently training for a 5k PB (sub-20) ever since I hit 20:44 at my local (lumpy) parkrun. Tthe training is tough, so I'm hoping the feeling will be worth it! Although I'll probably just feel like I need an ambulance 😂
When I ran past marathon distance I felt amazing
I’m proud of most of my. current PB’s, particularly as I only took up running properly at the end of last year, but at the time I wasn’t for my 5k. I got my HM PB at the GNR this year (1:25) which I was super proud of immediately, as it was 2 mins faster than my old PB and the GNR was a tougher course than the course my old PB was set at
My 5k PB I am very proud of though (17:30) but my 10k one (38:01) I feel should be a minute faster even though it’s still really good
If your getting sick later after a race I wonder is it relief or anxiety leaving the body?
It feels like the song "kickstart my heart"
Sarah: Don't sock shoe, sock shoe.
Also Sarah: Wear a croc.
Pure chaos!
No acronyms is great but careful of inside terms: What do you mean by "half-step"?
I set a PB today but I felt while running it that I wasn’t doing my best and running felt though and I was thinking I’m not doing my best and then I crossed the line and thought I had done rubbish finished 364 but I took 30s off my 5km time
Went to parkrun last weekend to get 5k below 23 minutes. Ran 22:06. Chuffed. Then disappointed I couldn't find those 6 seconds somewhere. Then chuffed again.
Just got home from running a 5k PB in 19:44 (first time under 20 mins)
And i hope to get a pb for the halfmarathon on saturday. Aiming for 1:30:00
An actual PB race attempt feels horrible. Last 8k race I was in a coma for the last 5k and barely saw where I was running. Total tunnel vision. HR at 97.5% max for kilometers 4(massive hill) and 8. Wanted to quit so many times but didn't.
Non race PB feels a lot better.
Nice pajama shirt Sarah was wearing 😁
The hi tibial osteotomy is tough but it's better than bye bye tibial osteotomy
Sara you hair is gorgeous
My pb:s we’re set approximately 20 years ago. No more pb:s. Trying not to run ‘personally worst”.
I am not a PBs fun. I am not focusing on PBs, rather on enjoying the running and how it makes me feel. Enjoying it makes me consistent and that brings improvements on its own. Pushing so hard that I do not enjoy it, makes me feel sick and look forward to the end of session, all this is pushing me away from consistency.
As a professional gambler for a time I always, and I mean always, would take a nervous 💩 before sitting down at every casino.
Crocs are worse than sock-shoe-sock-shoe.
Rick got away with that hydro facial comment far to lightly 😂
Sometimes a PB just comes unexpectedly, and with a large improvement. Do the stars have to align in a special way? Sometimes inexplicable.
My 5k P.B. is at parkrun, but my Garmin recorded it as 4.95k, so Strava doesn't count it.....
Lol you gotta love Sarah don't rule out an ultra marathon Andy
Crocs and adults should not mix, I'd far rather sock-shoe, sock-shoe!😂 At home, sock, sock, shoe, shoe; outdoors sock-shoe, sock-shoe to keep feet, socks and insides of shoes/boots dry and clean. No chance of messing up and dabbing something clean into wet grass, mud, or anything else come to think of it.
Rick banters with Chairman Mao and the girl in the striped pyjamas
i was just recoverd from injury and ran a 5k PB (22.45) but i walked 500m so i felt tereble
What is Andy recovering from?
Running a pb will always feel awful while you’re doing it. But great once you’re finished
There is never an excuse to wear crocs!
What you guys are pointing out is that Runners don't train themselves enough mentally. All the issues you bring up are mental issues. We spend time on training physically, nutrition, strength, but no conscious focus on what impacts our running as much as anything....the mental side.
A 5k PB?.....Olympic Gold. 😁 👍
Conpletely agree with sarah on the sock shoe debate
However, the fact that wearing crocs has bevome so commonplace now makes me sick 😂
Qustion at what age is a PB not possible anymore. Just for us older guys
You could aim to beat your age index.
5 years after first starting running if running consistently and pushing the training?
sir, Donovan Bailey did not pull up, he sonned Michael Johnson conclusively
And the only muscle that Michael Johnson pulled was his ego muscle when he saw Donovon Bailey pulling away.
No wasted energy by rick Kelsey lol 😂
I'm not going to lie... TRC did ruin my mindset towards wearing shoes. Historically it was sock-sock-shoe-shoe... Ever since the discussion in these podcasts I've gone the other way... It's disgusting but I've changed!
Sock shoe sock shoe is the only way
Perhaps it is time to look at PBs another way. How SLOW can you run your distance? Would save our broken bodies and minds from harm and guarantee loads of PB's to make you happy.
Sarah looks like she’s wearing pyjamas. No hate just an observation
Wear “crocs”? I’d rather be a psychopath and sock/shoe/sock/shoe 😂