I bought my Seamaster Aqua Terra to be exactly this; wore it with a tux for a wedding, but it is casual enough to wear with shorts and a t shirt. Brilliant watch for those who want something versatile.
Michael Stepanian Beautiful watch. I think steel sports “all rounders” are the way to go as a first nice watch, you can wear them anywhere. From my Explorer to your Aqua Terra to another guys Tissot Gentleman, such versatile watches that don’t come out of the watch box only for the wedding. One of my sons has slender wrists, I’m getting him the Tudor BB36 which fits this range too.
If someone wore that Omega sports watch with a tuxedo to my wedding, I would escort him out. If it is casual enough to wear with shorts and a T-shirt, it is far too casual to wear with a tuxedo,
Garrett Belcher I hope I would never be invited to such an inhospitable and ungentlemanly person’s wedding. Let people do what they want to do and enjoy what they want to enjoy
A Navitimer is a perfect dress watch! He chose the Montbrillant version of the Navitimer as an example, but any Navi will do. A Navi is a perfect all-around watch for dress-up or work or a day of leisure ... except I don’t know of many who would wear it for a work-out - leave that to the G-Shocks and Pro-Treks.
Garrett Belcher Got married with a tux and my Montbrillant Datora, which is in the Navi family, in 2007. Black dial, black subdials, on bracelet. Looked perfect.
@@jbrac0860 EEEWWW, a sports watch with a tuxedo is tres gauche. That is like Woody Allen wearing tennis shoes with a tuxedo to be comical, but you are serious I see. That is hilarious.
It is tres gauche to wear a sports watch with dress clothing. Woody Allen once wore tennis shoes with a tuxedo to be silly, and you do practically the same thing and are serious. You lack good taste.
Garrett Belcher so what’s the difference between a Rolex Explorer and a dress watch? It has a black dial, only complication is a second hand (used to be that a dress watch shouldn’t even have that), it’s slender, elegant and less than 40mm. While your Daniel Wellington or Movado homage might technically fit the dress watch definition (and that’s fine by me that you prefer such), I’ll take my Explorer.
@@mkyhou1160 I write books about watches, and I see you have much to learn. The basic horological functions are hours, minute & seconds of solar mean time. Anything else is a complication. The simplest and most common complication is date. The name is a giveaway. Explorers do not wear dress clothing. Also, it is in the Oyster Perpetual line that are sports watches, Rolex's dress watches are in the "Cellini" line. Some of my dress watches are Vacheron Constantin "Les Historique", Patek Philippe "Calatrava", Cartier "Tank Louis Cartier", Cartier "Santos Dumont", Tiffany & Co. "Classic", LeCoultre 1952 "Beau Brummel", etc.
Garrett Belcher you see defining what is a dress watch by the brand and the model not the horological form. It was considered uncouth to even have a small second hand on a dress watch, let alone a full second. It was once uncouth to even wear a watch with formal attire. Its difficult for most people not into watches to tell a fifty dollar MVMT from a Patek Calatrava, they are both thin, both have three hands, the MVMT keeps time better. I think that’s why the traditional dress watch is rapidly disappearing and their resale values are horrible, most people want to look like they invested a little more than the Walmart bargain bin on their wrist. Ian Fleming realized that decades ago when he put Bond in an Explorer and he wasn’t wrong.
@@mkyhou1160 "Explorer is a key word. Explorers do not wear dress watches. It is an "Oyster Perpetual Explorer" that is in Rolex's sports watch line and is water-resistant to 10 atmospheres. Dress watches are not that rugged. . Rolex dress watches are in the "Cellini" line
I love the Cartier "Santos" line, but some are sports watches, and others are dress watches. I bought one in 1998. I also own a Cartier "Tank Louis Cartier" . I love both watches.
Grand Seikos with their aggressive angles and somewhat chunky dimensions don't come to mind when I think dress watches, but of course many pieces in their catalogue are far from what I described, so I agree. However there is something about GS that almost excludes them from the shackles of etiquette ; I think what they are doing is so unique and forward thinking that they can basically shrug of any of our self imposed rules in much the same way that Connery era Bond did with his Subby.
@1:17 he says dress watchse are " _generally_ time only" and then shows us a freakin' chronograph with a date and a rotating bezel on a steel bracelet. Sports city, dude. Completely missed the mark with these recommendations.
I only have sport watches so the two I use as kind of dress watches are my 36mm Omega Seamaster Professional (due to its diminutive size) and my PP 5711 Nautilus due to its thinness and delicate feel compared to real sport watches. Also I find vintage sport watches a good dress choice as they aren’t going to be roughed about in their retirement years lol.
Honestly, a terrible list. Literally, none of those are proper dress watches. The white dialed Nomos comes closest but these are all just slightly dressy luxury sports watches.
My choice is a 39 mm Polpora Aer which was limited to only 30 units. It has a basic ETA 2824, but has proven just perfect for the dressed up occasions, and despite the relatively low price (around 1000 USD) I have it in a rotation with Rolex Datejust 41.
I dont use dress watches but for this purpose i only have 2 pices one is a Tissot Le Locle Chrono and the other one is a Baume et Mercier Classima Chrono and i think the Classima its more dressy than the Tissot
Correction to some corrections people have made. There is/was a separate Neomatik line. People don't remember when Nomos first released the line. The Neomatik line was originally smaller with different dial and hand combinations than the other models, that made them distinct.
Beautiful Choices!! All are excellent! I have some rectangular watches that Are Dressy and Include Citizen, Seikos, Bulovas, Concord, Corum. I do not have a Nomos, but the Breitlings, and Omega Aqua Terra are awesome choices. I have Many Chronographs that are dressy or Sport. I have to confess, I became a Watch Addict working at Carl’s Diamond Brokerage/Carl’s Fine Jewelry in High School. There I learned all about Watches and was Blessed to have an Awesome Watchmaker that taught me a lot about fine quality Watches. Plus we carried many Fine Watch Lines. The First “expensive Watch Purchase” was a Cushion Shape Solid 14KT Yellow Gold Bulova Accutron 214. The Tuning Fork Movement was one of then most Beautiful and Accurate Timepieces in the 60’s. I still have This Time Piece and enjoy listening to the “Hum!” Still a very accurate time piece. Citizen purchased Bulova (2015?) and developed a “Tri-Tuning Fork Movement” operating at 262 kHz. Accuracy +/- 5 seconds per Year. I Have a Bulova Lunar Pilot and a Rose Gold Bulova Accutron Curve Chronograph with both Watches having this movement. I’m Blessed to have an assortment of watches and enjoy them all!
Agree on the Cartier Two Tone 100%. It is on my “buy” list and I will acquire it within a few years. Just a few other watches ahead of it in the queue, for I don’t have many occasions that require a “dress” watch. My white dial Omega Speedmaster Racing will have to do in the meantime lol. Great video man! Keep up the great content 😎👍
great video, thanks. so pleased to see you talking about dress watches (it was my suggested topic when you asked on insta this week). my favorite dress watch is my cartier tank with alligator strap.
Gordon Murray, McLaren and Brabham F1 multi millionaire was recently interviewed with his $1,600.00 Tag Heuer Carrera Automatic dress watch. That's good enough for me.
Absolutely nothing is wrong with dressing up. Modern men think non-shorts and non-jeans and a tucked in shirt makes them soooo dressed up, stiff and serious. They dress like uneducated country bumpkins.
They are definite sports watches, not dress watches. Rolex's dress watches are "Cellinis". To me, Rolex is cheap junk. My Patek Philippes, Vacheron Constantins, Audemars Piouets, etc. are much better-made than Rolexes and much costlier.
Garrett Belcher First of all, in what universe is Day Date a sports watch? Secondly, by your logic I can say that your PP and VC are absolute cheap junk because a Laurent Ferrier or Greubel Forsey have better finishing than either of these
@@MrGarrett285 I own Patek and Rolex. To say Rolex is junk makes me think you own neither. Patek movements are not Robust. I'll wear my Patek to work, but not when I'm playing with the kids. Audemar's finishing is nice but I swear my wool pants even scratch that soft-ass metal.
@@audemarspiguet2722 The Rolex "Oyster Perpetual Day Date" is a sports watch in the only Universe we know exists. Rolex's dress watches are "Cellinis". Rolex has 2000 workers that produce 1,000,000 watches per year. Patek Philippe also has 2000 workers that produce 60,000 watches per year. That shows reasonable people that Patek is much better-made than Rolex and is thus much costlier. A couple of years ago, Patek's cheapest men's steel sport watch cost 5.31 times as much as Rolex's cheapest men's steel sports watch. It is insane to call Patek Philippe and Vacheron Constantin cheap junk. How are Laurent Ferrier and Greubel Forsey better than Patek Philippe and Vacheron Constantin. Your user name should be Rolex Zombie! So Richard Mille makes Laurent Ferrier and Greubel Forsey cheap junk. Now, Laurent Ferrier has a tourbillon for $185,000, while Richard Mille has one for $840,000. Greubel Forsey makes only tourbilllons, but none cost as much as Richard Mille's. What do you think of F.P. Journe, Philippe Dufour, etc.? All brands are cheap compared to Graff whose "Fascination" watch covered with top quality diamonds of different colors cost $55,000,000!
@@Chris-es3wf I do not own any Rolexes now. I bought one soon after graduation from college. I have learned much about watches since then and so I traded my Rolexes, since I have much better watches. Compared to the real top brands, Rolex is mass-produced cheap junk. Patek also makes sports watches in their "Nautilus" and "Aquanaut" lines, and Rolex makes dress watches in its "Cellini" line. You show that you do not know the difference between a dress watch and a sports watch. Some things are highly overrated, e.g. Rolex in watches, Glock in pistols, Bruce Lee in martial arts, Arnold Schwarzenegger in bodybuilding, etc. My oldest watches are 1893 Patek Philippe, 1902 Vacheron Constantin and 1914 IWC.
@@MrGarrett285 exactly! If this watch was produced by any other manufacturer it would be considered a sports watch. Btw I own a 36mm black dial Datejust with fluted bezel and jubilee bracelet and i don't even consider that a dress watch.
The Breitling shown is a sports watch and certainly not a dress watch. The Omega is also a sports watch! You evidently do not know the difference between a sports watch and a dress watch. The Nomos with white dial is dressy, but black, orange, etc. dials are not dressy. I own a Cartier "Santos Dumont" that has an 18 kt. gold case, white dial and black leather strap. I also own a Cartier "Tank Louis Cartier" that is also gold with white dial and black leather strap. The steel and gold bracelet version is a sports watch. You need to learn the difference. This is a Sloppy Casual age in which people have forgotten the differences between casual and dress clothing and watches, "Tool watch" is a term that is an invention of Rolex used to con people. The only combination sports-dress watch I own is the original Piaget "Polo".
Truly terrible list. Presenter seems to have conflated "expensive" with "dressy" watches. The two have no relation. Probably thinks a black hoodie, black jeans and white Supreme tee are just as good as a tuxedo! lololol
Please just add a designated dress watch to your collection for the most formal occasions, your deep sea Rolex doesn’t want to go to the opera and it doesn’t have to be a Piaget,JLC jubilee, or Vacheron. Maybe it’s a vintage insert brand 36 mm or smaller watch or perhaps a $500 automatic Hamilton at 10 mm, or a frederique constant at a little more. Someone please show some good taste.
"Tool Watch" is a nonsense phrase invented by Rolex to use in illogical Special Pleading. There are sports watches, and there are dress watches. In 1979, the Piaget "Polo" claimed to be a combination dress and sports watch. I own one, incidentally. My mother was amazed that it cost more than her car. The "Polo" has changed much over the years.
@1:50 LOL, what is "too thin" for a (dress) watch? The only way a watch can be too thin is by how much it thins out the cash in your wallet. All y'all that want chunky dive watches because sTeEL iS rEaL are so lame and completely lost on what you're doing and how you're buying/collecting. Silly fools.
I tend to differ. So long there is no water or shock involved, you will catch me wearing a P.P or even a F.P. with jeans, shorts, and a suit. Watches are meant to be worn not live in a safety deposit box.
@@MrGarrett285 Maybe it's not lunacy, it's modernity. Most people, nowadays, don't need or don't want to dress formally (wathever that means), I know quite a few relatively young top managers or even big companies CEOs who regularly wear jeans and would consider suits as symbols of old style mentality and lack of dynamism. Those who still insist with suits either are not into watches or usually wear Submariners, Speedmasters, Datejusts and so on. I literally only see proper dress watches on older people or politicians. In fact I don't quite get the obsession with dress watches when almost nobody still use them.
@@giusepperocchi2979 Modern can equal Lunacy. We are in another Dark Age in Fashion & Art. Picasso, Pollock, Kandinsky, etc. paint like babies and are far inferior to the Great Masters of the Baroque and Renaissance eras. Everyone at San Francisco Opera wears formal clothing. Gore Vidal said he would not wear jeans to the corner. Donald Hamilton said that if denim is in fashion, burlap and tarpaulin should also be. Jeans are ugly and once worn only by manual laborers.
@@darrenfitzpatrick5331 TWICE WON COUNTY SPELLING BEES WHEN i WAS A CHILD. I made a typographical area, and that is all you can find to use against me, How pathetic!
The Nomos with white dial makes the list, but black, orange, etc. dials do not. The Cartier "Santos" in gold with white dial and black leather strap does, but the steel and gold one with bracelet does not.
I wear divers or pilot watches every day; what's on my wrist is the last thing people will notice. It doesn't matter whether I'm in chinos and jeans, or a suit; these are the watches I wear. And where does it say "dress" watches have to be thin? Even a Tuna will fit under the cuff of a Brooks Brothers "dress" shirt.
Garrett Belcher I’d say it is quite difficult to pair it with jeans and a T-shirt. Especially when you have it on jubilee bracelet and fluted bezel. If we’re thinking oyster bracelet & flat bezel, yeah maybe. But even then I’d say DJ is an in between watch. Just my thoughts.
Hey John Künüçen, The Datejust is probably one of the best examples of this watch. So much that it is what Nathan wears in most of the videos. We were searching for other examples that also work for the "middle ground." Thanks for watching!
Crown & Caliber Thanks for taking the time to reply!! Having seen DJs worn on many videos was part of my surprise to be honest. Keep up the great work as the Crown & Caliber team - you guys make some of the best watch videos out there!
These are great for everyday watch but not as a dress watch and they wont look great on a suit but a dress watch can also be dressed up or down with the right strap and outfit. you just going to lose the ruggedness.
I bought my Seamaster Aqua Terra to be exactly this; wore it with a tux for a wedding, but it is casual enough to wear with shorts and a t shirt. Brilliant watch for those who want something versatile.
Michael Stepanian Beautiful watch. I think steel sports “all rounders” are the way to go as a first nice watch, you can wear them anywhere. From my Explorer to your Aqua Terra to another guys Tissot Gentleman, such versatile watches that don’t come out of the watch box only for the wedding. One of my sons has slender wrists, I’m getting him the Tudor BB36 which fits this range too.
The Omega Aqua Terra is a Beautiful All Purpose Timepiece!! Excellent Choice!
If someone wore that Omega sports watch with a tuxedo to my wedding, I would escort him out. If it is casual enough to wear with shorts and a T-shirt, it is far too casual to wear with a tuxedo,
mky hou totally! The black bay is a great choice, I was considering that as well
Garrett Belcher I hope I would never be invited to such an inhospitable and ungentlemanly person’s wedding. Let people do what they want to do and enjoy what they want to enjoy
A Navitimer as a dress watch? Next week on C&C: "Why the Calatrava is the perfect work-out watch" :))))
A Navitimer is a perfect dress watch! He chose the Montbrillant version of the Navitimer as an example, but any Navi will do. A Navi is a perfect all-around watch for dress-up or work or a day of leisure ... except I don’t know of many who would wear it for a work-out - leave that to the G-Shocks and Pro-Treks.
@@jbrac0860 It is far from being a dress watch. I would never wear it with a dress suit and tie.
Garrett Belcher Got married with a tux and my Montbrillant Datora, which is in the Navi family, in 2007. Black dial, black subdials, on bracelet. Looked perfect.
@@jbrac0860 EEEWWW, a sports watch with a tuxedo is tres gauche. That is like Woody Allen wearing tennis shoes with a tuxedo to be comical, but you are serious I see. That is hilarious.
See, I think THAT’S hilarious ....
I use my Explorer 39 as my office / dress watch. It’s great casual as well, super versatile.
It is tres gauche to wear a sports watch with dress clothing. Woody Allen once wore tennis shoes with a tuxedo to be silly, and you do practically the same thing and are serious. You lack good taste.
Garrett Belcher so what’s the difference between a Rolex Explorer and a dress watch? It has a black dial, only complication is a second hand (used to be that a dress watch shouldn’t even have that), it’s slender, elegant and less than 40mm. While your Daniel Wellington or Movado homage might technically fit the dress watch definition (and that’s fine by me that you prefer such), I’ll take my Explorer.
@@mkyhou1160 I write books about watches, and I see you have much to learn. The basic horological functions are hours, minute & seconds of solar mean time. Anything else is a complication. The simplest and most common complication is date. The name is a giveaway. Explorers do not wear dress clothing. Also, it is in the Oyster Perpetual line that are sports watches, Rolex's dress watches are in the "Cellini" line. Some of my dress watches are Vacheron Constantin "Les Historique", Patek Philippe "Calatrava", Cartier "Tank Louis Cartier", Cartier "Santos Dumont", Tiffany & Co. "Classic", LeCoultre 1952 "Beau Brummel", etc.
Garrett Belcher you see defining what is a dress watch by the brand and the model not the horological form. It was considered uncouth to even have a small second hand on a dress watch, let alone a full second. It was once uncouth to even wear a watch with formal attire. Its difficult for most people not into watches to tell a fifty dollar MVMT from a Patek Calatrava, they are both thin, both have three hands, the MVMT keeps time better. I think that’s why the traditional dress watch is rapidly disappearing and their resale values are horrible, most people want to look like they invested a little more than the Walmart bargain bin on their wrist. Ian Fleming realized that decades ago when he put Bond in an Explorer and he wasn’t wrong.
@@mkyhou1160 "Explorer is a key word. Explorers do not wear dress watches. It is an "Oyster Perpetual Explorer" that is in Rolex's sports watch line and is water-resistant to 10 atmospheres. Dress watches are not that rugged. . Rolex dress watches are in the "Cellini" line
Suprised that a Grand Seiko was not on your list, out of you mini list base on looks alone i like the Cartier
I love the Cartier "Santos" line, but some are sports watches, and others are dress watches. I bought one in 1998. I also own a Cartier "Tank Louis Cartier" . I love both watches.
Grand Seikos with their aggressive angles and somewhat chunky dimensions don't come to mind when I think dress watches, but of course many pieces in their catalogue are far from what I described, so I agree.
However there is something about GS that almost excludes them from the shackles of etiquette ; I think what they are doing is so unique and forward thinking that they can basically shrug of any of our self imposed rules in much the same way that Connery era Bond did with his Subby.
The Video could be named “The in between watch” or “The not so resistant sport watches”
There is no in-between watch. You have dress watches and sports watches.
@@MrGarrett285 This list is literally all in between watches that fall in the chasm between chunky divers and slim, slender, small dress pieces.
The Brietling as a dress(ish) watch?? You must be joking!
I hope he is joking. It is a sports watch.
@1:17 he says dress watchse are " _generally_ time only" and then shows us a freakin' chronograph with a date and a rotating bezel on a steel bracelet. Sports city, dude. Completely missed the mark with these recommendations.
I only have sport watches so the two I use as kind of dress watches are my 36mm Omega Seamaster Professional (due to its diminutive size) and my PP 5711 Nautilus due to its thinness and delicate feel compared to real sport watches. Also I find vintage sport watches a good dress choice as they aren’t going to be roughed about in their retirement years lol.
Title was a bit misleading. As you mentioned, dress watches are deeper into the collection. My reverso and calatrava were 3rd and 5th, respectively.
Honestly, a terrible list. Literally, none of those are proper dress watches. The white dialed Nomos comes closest but these are all just slightly dressy luxury sports watches.
@@Mister_Phafanapolis Agreed. Real title should have been "watches that can (almost) pass for dress watches in a pinch"
My choice is a 39 mm Polpora Aer which was limited to only 30 units. It has a basic ETA 2824, but has proven just perfect for the dressed up occasions, and despite the relatively low price (around 1000 USD) I have it in a rotation with Rolex Datejust 41.
I dont use dress watches but for this purpose i only have 2 pices one is a Tissot Le Locle Chrono and the other one is a Baume et Mercier Classima Chrono and i think the Classima its more dressy than the Tissot
Correction to some corrections people have made. There is/was a separate Neomatik line. People don't remember when Nomos first released the line. The Neomatik line was originally smaller with different dial and hand combinations than the other models, that made them distinct.
Beautiful Choices!! All are excellent! I have some rectangular watches that Are Dressy and Include Citizen, Seikos, Bulovas, Concord, Corum. I do not have a Nomos, but the Breitlings, and Omega Aqua Terra are awesome choices. I have Many Chronographs that are dressy or Sport. I have to confess, I became a Watch Addict working at Carl’s Diamond Brokerage/Carl’s Fine Jewelry in High School. There I learned all about Watches and was Blessed to have an Awesome Watchmaker that taught me a lot about fine quality Watches. Plus we carried many Fine Watch Lines. The First “expensive Watch Purchase” was a Cushion Shape Solid 14KT Yellow Gold Bulova Accutron 214. The Tuning Fork Movement was one of then most Beautiful and Accurate Timepieces in the 60’s. I still have This Time Piece and enjoy listening to the “Hum!” Still a very accurate time piece. Citizen purchased Bulova (2015?) and developed a “Tri-Tuning Fork Movement” operating at 262 kHz. Accuracy +/- 5 seconds per Year. I Have a Bulova Lunar Pilot and a Rose Gold Bulova Accutron Curve Chronograph with both Watches having this movement. I’m Blessed to have an assortment of watches and enjoy them all!
Agree on the Cartier Two Tone 100%. It is on my “buy” list and I will acquire it within a few years. Just a few other watches ahead of it in the queue, for I don’t have many occasions that require a “dress” watch. My white dial Omega Speedmaster Racing will have to do in the meantime lol. Great video man! Keep up the great content 😎👍
Oris Big crown pointer date is something I wear everyday and is perfect for dressier situations also.
True Dress Watches have no date or other complications. I see so many misguided people on various websites.
great video, thanks. so pleased to see you talking about dress watches (it was my suggested topic when you asked on insta this week). my favorite dress watch is my cartier tank with alligator strap.
Santos FTW!
I was under the impression that a dress watch must use a leather strap to look formal. You convinced me that metal bracelet works too
As today's trend, the design of dress watches can be wearing as any occasion, so the amphibious style (sporty dress watches) is a perfect choice.
Rolex OP 36 and a Gshock is all you need
I have no need for either. Rolexes are cheap junk to me.
@@MrGarrett285 What is your choice?
@@cardinalj I own 57 watches. The oldest is an 1893 Patek Philippe. Today, I wear an A. Lange & Sohne tourbillon that cost over $211,000 in 2017.
@@MrGarrett285 Nice! I am wearing my Sinn 104 Green dial.....even cheaper than a rolex. Say hi to Archie for me.
Gordon Murray, McLaren and Brabham F1 multi millionaire was recently interviewed with his $1,600.00 Tag Heuer Carrera Automatic dress watch. That's good enough for me.
Just because someone has money it doesn't necessarily mean they have taste/class. Btw I have no idea who Gordon Murray is I'm just making a point.
What about the Tag Monaco black dial on a black croc strap? I've one in my collection and its definitely more dress than sport.
No, it is a sport watch,.
Modern dress watches are suitable for most modes of dress. Not just a suit.Anyway what’s wrong with dressing up?
Absolutely nothing is wrong with dressing up. Modern men think non-shorts and non-jeans and a tucked in shirt makes them soooo dressed up, stiff and serious. They dress like uneducated country bumpkins.
A nice selection
Question - why aren’t the Datejust or Day Date on this list?
They are definite sports watches, not dress watches. Rolex's dress watches are "Cellinis". To me, Rolex is cheap junk. My Patek Philippes, Vacheron Constantins, Audemars Piouets, etc. are much better-made than Rolexes and much costlier.
Garrett Belcher First of all, in what universe is Day Date a sports watch? Secondly, by your logic I can say that your PP and VC are absolute cheap junk because a Laurent Ferrier or Greubel Forsey have better finishing than either of these
@@MrGarrett285 I own Patek and Rolex. To say Rolex is junk makes me think you own neither. Patek movements are not Robust. I'll wear my Patek to work, but not when I'm playing with the kids. Audemar's finishing is nice but I swear my wool pants even scratch that soft-ass metal.
@@audemarspiguet2722 The Rolex "Oyster Perpetual Day Date" is a sports watch in the only Universe we know exists. Rolex's dress watches are "Cellinis". Rolex has 2000 workers that produce 1,000,000 watches per year. Patek Philippe also has 2000 workers that produce 60,000 watches per year. That shows reasonable people that Patek is much better-made than Rolex and is thus much costlier. A couple of years ago, Patek's cheapest men's steel sport watch cost 5.31 times as much as Rolex's cheapest men's steel sports watch. It is insane to call Patek Philippe and Vacheron Constantin cheap junk. How are Laurent Ferrier and Greubel Forsey better than Patek Philippe and Vacheron Constantin. Your user name should be Rolex Zombie! So Richard Mille makes Laurent Ferrier and Greubel Forsey cheap junk. Now, Laurent Ferrier has a tourbillon for $185,000, while Richard Mille has one for $840,000. Greubel Forsey makes only tourbilllons, but none cost as much as Richard Mille's. What do you think of F.P. Journe, Philippe Dufour, etc.? All brands are cheap compared to Graff whose "Fascination" watch covered with top quality diamonds of different colors cost $55,000,000!
@@Chris-es3wf I do not own any Rolexes now. I bought one soon after graduation from college. I have learned much about watches since then and so I traded my Rolexes, since I have much better watches. Compared to the real top brands, Rolex is mass-produced cheap junk. Patek also makes sports watches in their "Nautilus" and "Aquanaut" lines, and Rolex makes dress watches in its "Cellini" line. You show that you do not know the difference between a dress watch and a sports watch. Some things are highly overrated, e.g. Rolex in watches, Glock in pistols, Bruce Lee in martial arts, Arnold Schwarzenegger in bodybuilding, etc. My oldest watches are 1893 Patek Philippe, 1902 Vacheron Constantin and 1914 IWC.
Datejust is the ultimate do anything watch
That's a Nomos Orion. It has the Neomatik movement. There is no separate Neomatik line
Hey has James Rebhorn come back??
Please do an Omega buying guide.
Rolex OP 39 White - or black.
That is a sports watch, not a dress watch.
@@MrGarrett285 exactly! If this watch was produced by any other manufacturer it would be considered a sports watch. Btw I own a 36mm black dial Datejust with fluted bezel and jubilee bracelet and i don't even consider that a dress watch.
Never owned a dress watch and never will! To dainty for my liking! give me a killer tool diver watch anytime!
You're a heathen
I wear dress suits and ties to work, and I wear them on weekends. I have sports watches for when I go hunting, camping and canoeing.
What movie with Benedict Cumberbatch was shown in the beginning?
Dr Strange
Dress watch without Cartier tank or the Reverso? seriously?
Nomos for me team 👌🏻
A dress watch needs a black leather strap?
Or a brown leather strap if you have brown shoes/belt on.
all of my dress watches are vintage my wrist is too small for modern sizes
Cartier . Says it all.
Steel JLC Reverso DUO
The Breitling shown is a sports watch and certainly not a dress watch. The Omega is also a sports watch! You evidently do not know the difference between a sports watch and a dress watch. The Nomos with white dial is dressy, but black, orange, etc. dials are not dressy. I own a Cartier "Santos Dumont" that has an 18 kt. gold case, white dial and black leather strap. I also own a Cartier "Tank Louis Cartier" that is also gold with white dial and black leather strap. The steel and gold bracelet version is a sports watch. You need to learn the difference. This is a Sloppy Casual age in which people have forgotten the differences between casual and dress clothing and watches, "Tool watch" is a term that is an invention of Rolex used to con people. The only combination sports-dress watch I own is the original Piaget "Polo".
Truly terrible list. Presenter seems to have conflated "expensive" with "dressy" watches. The two have no relation. Probably thinks a black hoodie, black jeans and white Supreme tee are just as good as a tuxedo! lololol
where dj41, where JLC, where Glashutte, where IWC..... ? wtf mate?
Fantastic video, folks!
Fantastically ignorant and tasteless.
@@MrGarrett285 Didn't grandma ever tell you to say something nice or shut your hole?
@@UGA.D I choose to tell the truth, but you obviously hate some truths!
The Rolex date just is the one to go,definitely off the charts!
It is a sport watch. Rolex's "Cellini" line are its only dress watches.
This guy has become my favourite watch reviewer. I just love the way he talks.
I write books about watches. This guy has much to learn.
These days, I feel like only an enthusiast will appreciate the types of watches paired with a tux or suit. Most people are meh...whatever.
Please just add a designated dress watch to your collection for the most formal occasions, your deep sea Rolex doesn’t want to go to the opera and it doesn’t have to be a Piaget,JLC jubilee, or Vacheron. Maybe it’s a vintage insert brand 36 mm or smaller watch or perhaps a $500 automatic Hamilton at 10 mm, or a frederique constant at a little more. Someone please show some good taste.
"Tool Watch" is a nonsense phrase invented by Rolex to use in illogical Special Pleading. There are sports watches, and there are dress watches. In 1979, the Piaget "Polo" claimed to be a combination dress and sports watch. I own one, incidentally. My mother was amazed that it cost more than her car. The "Polo" has changed much over the years.
@1:50 LOL, what is "too thin" for a (dress) watch? The only way a watch can be too thin is by how much it thins out the cash in your wallet. All y'all that want chunky dive watches because sTeEL iS rEaL are so lame and completely lost on what you're doing and how you're buying/collecting. Silly fools.
"I gotta have my Chuck Slab 52mm or I feel like a woman."
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Zenith El Primero 38mm fits the casual/dress category too.
I'm sorry but a chrono as a dress watch suggestion is awful advice. Might as well wear shorts to the occasion.
I tend to differ. So long there is no water or shock involved, you will catch me wearing a P.P or even a F.P. with jeans, shorts, and a suit. Watches are meant to be worn not live in a safety deposit box.
@@Bu-22 Yes , depending on the situation I usually wear A Seiko 5 , a Rolex 36mm fluted blue Air King., or a all steel precision Rolex.
Robert Hiers there you go. Seiko 5 to FPJ, seems like you have an awesome, well rounded collection.
Wearing sports watches with dress suits is tres gauche. Why do so many people insist upon such lunacy?
@@MrGarrett285
Maybe it's not lunacy, it's modernity. Most people, nowadays, don't need or don't want to dress formally (wathever that means), I know quite a few relatively young top managers or even big companies CEOs who regularly wear jeans and would consider suits as symbols of old style mentality and lack of dynamism. Those who still insist with suits either are not into watches or usually wear Submariners, Speedmasters, Datejusts and so on. I literally only see proper dress watches on older people or politicians. In fact I don't quite get the obsession with dress watches when almost nobody still use them.
@@giusepperocchi2979 Modern can equal Lunacy. We are in another Dark Age in Fashion & Art. Picasso, Pollock, Kandinsky, etc. paint like babies and are far inferior to the Great Masters of the Baroque and Renaissance eras. Everyone at San Francisco Opera wears formal clothing. Gore Vidal said he would not wear jeans to the corner. Donald Hamilton said that if denim is in fashion, burlap and tarpaulin should also be. Jeans are ugly and once worn only by manual laborers.
Shell "COR-DO-VAN".... oh goodness, here's how you say it.
ruclips.net/video/He7EpbyzfPE/видео.html
Also, none of these are dress watches
Case for the black Submariner. Looks great with a wetsuit, with a tuxedo and everything in between
It is comical to wear a "Submariner" sports watch with a tuxedo. If you wore such a combo to a party I held, I would make you leave.
Hopefully your parties are better than your spelling.
@@darrenfitzpatrick5331 TWICE WON COUNTY SPELLING BEES WHEN i WAS A CHILD. I made a typographical area, and that is all you can find to use against me, How pathetic!
Garrett Belcher - How about this? Kick him out of your party:
www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/james-bond-rolex-submariner-explorer
Can't call any of those a dress watch...
The Nomos with white dial makes the list, but black, orange, etc. dials do not. The Cartier "Santos" in gold with white dial and black leather strap does, but the steel and gold one with bracelet does not.
@@MrGarrett285 a dress watch shows only the time (no date, no seconds), is very slim and simple. Look at VC Patrimony
@@vacheronconstantin7 Dress watches may show hours, minutes and sec onds but no complications, e.g. date, day, month, year, chronograph, etc.
I wear divers or pilot watches every day; what's on my wrist is the last thing people will notice. It doesn't matter whether I'm in chinos and jeans, or a suit; these are the watches I wear. And where does it say "dress" watches have to be thin? Even a Tuna will fit under the cuff of a Brooks Brothers "dress" shirt.
I dont agree with the Navitimer. No way
Neither do I. It is a sports watch.
No Datejust? Seriously?????
It is a sports watch.
Garrett Belcher I’d say it is quite difficult to pair it with jeans and a T-shirt. Especially when you have it on jubilee bracelet and fluted bezel. If we’re thinking oyster bracelet & flat bezel, yeah maybe. But even then I’d say DJ is an in between watch. Just my thoughts.
Hey John Künüçen,
The Datejust is probably one of the best examples of this watch. So much that it is what Nathan wears in most of the videos. We were searching for other examples that also work for the "middle ground." Thanks for watching!
Crown & Caliber Thanks for taking the time to reply!! Having seen DJs worn on many videos was part of my surprise to be honest. Keep up the great work as the Crown & Caliber team - you guys make some of the best watch videos out there!
@@JohnK9315 The "Oyster Perpetual" line is sports watches. Rolex's dress watches are in the "Cellini" line. You need to do much more thinking.
Rolex DateJust.
He JAPD,
Probably one of the best examples of the "middle ground" watch. Thanks for watching!
@@CrownandCaliber You are welcome. Greeting from Spain!!!
These are great for everyday watch but not as a dress watch and they wont look great on a suit but a dress watch can also be dressed up or down with the right strap and outfit. you just going to lose the ruggedness.
Sorry, I don't think these are dress watches.
The Nomos with white dial might do but not black, orange, etc. dials.