Josh, I've got to tell you the difference in rebar and wire mesh. If and when you do get cracking, the rebar is going to hold both sides of the crack level, where the wire mesh will let the concrete move up and down. This is common sense, look at the diameter of the two materials and try to convince yourself they will both hold concrete from moving up and down. I also have found that cracking is held to a minimum with rebar on two foot centers. Concrete contractors find it faster and easier to use wire mesh, plus they pocket the difference in the price difference between wire mesh and rebar. If you have ever seen interstate highway concrete roadway being laid you can see they always use rebar. same with bridge building. Do it right the first time, especially with concrete because you don't get a second chance. Your videos are the best I have seen. No one knows all the trades in this day and time. Finding someone that actually knows what they are doing in one trade is a miracle now days. In the old days a builder actually did just that. He built the house, did all the trades jobs with few exceptions. That was how they controlled the quality of the build. And it meant everything to them to do it right. You embody that kind of talent, God bless you, sir.
Expansion joints- choosing where the cracks go, , Rebar- if you like them cracks straight,level and horizontal only. Cause if u get a random Crack in floor it will run up.
What factors most in preventing concrete cracking are: quality of the mix, a properly consolidated base, and proper curing of the concrete. Unfortunately, you will see very few if any concrete "professionals", especially in the YT arena, addressing all three. The habit of inserting steel into the concrete stems from the desire to do the job quick. It does not prevent cracking hence cutting or scoring the slabs with saw or hand tool. And if steel is applied to the concrete job, few if any "professionals" address the best practices when using rebar or steel mesh. Oxidation of steel will occur especially when the concrete becomes compromised, and the steel is exposed to moisture and sometimes salt.
This guy does an excellent job in all his videos showing and explaining. Alot of this stuff i already know but i have learned several tips and tricks i didnt know that will definitely save me time and money. Thank you sir for the vids
Stamped concrete is important to have all the tools and knowledge for sure. I've had jobs done by qualified contractors as well and even dying the cement as well. When you just do a small area you do learn to respect the crews that do it everyday. I meant to ask if expansion joints are cut in at all in that size garage which you see a lot in our area. You are very correct I'm wearing the proper footwear and other things as well. From experience even doing little things cement can burn your skin if not careful. Thanks for the Fantastic video as always and may you and your family have a wonderful Memorial weekend. 🔨👍🏻
Yes, protecting your skin from the concrete is very important. I forgot to wear gloves, one time when handling concrete and my hands got really wrinkly. I won’t do that again! Thanks for your comment, David!
Definitely recommend a video on washing the release off. I just did it on my stamped walkway and it was a little stressful doing it for the first time. 😂😂
I really enjoy your channel. You’re doing excellent work and offer excellent advice. Not meant as a criticism at all I will comment that concrete was a bit on the soupy side flowing out of the chute. Again not meaning to critique just an observation. Keep up the good work wish I lived nearby I’d help you build that garage. 74 years old, 50 years in construction, know a few things have yet much to learn. Work safe🙂
I appreciate that Don! Any input is always welcome. I’m glad you like the channel. How do you put in a lot of hours in each video to try to make it as best as I can. Stay tuned for more to come. Take care!
Correct, Don. Should have been poured on a 3-4" slump per ACA guidelines. Many stampers will pour it soupier to make it easier, but it isn't the way to get the full strength that you should.
I noticed that they never brought the wire mess up into the middle of the concrete. That's a big red flag, it's meant to keep the concrete from cracking at random places. It doesn't do anything laying on the bottom of the concrete slab.
It was hard to catch it on camera, but the finisher pulled it up into the concrete as he was pouring it. Yes, it is supposed to be in the middle of the slab. Thanks for watching!
Nice jobs with your vids! However, as a former educator in the concrete industry, I have to note a few things. Your finisher may have pulled on it some, but it never could be seen sitting in the vertical middle of the concrete where it belongs. Pouring with wire is often a pain as you almost have to dedicate 1 person to pulling it up the entire time to get it well sited in the concrete. BTW, American Concrete Association rates wire mesh as a SECONDARY reinforcement that provides assistance in not allowing cracks to widen in concrete (which they rate fiber mesh poured within the concrete equal to wire mesh). It is NOT a PRIMARY reinforcement like rebar, which does the above job as well as provide tensile strength. The concrete provides the compressive strength. If your finishers are noticing cracking in line with their rebar, suggest to them to 1)Make sure it it lifted into the vertical middle of the slab for most applications (this varies per structural needs, but in general 4-6" slabs need it in the middle) and 2)reduce the water content of their pour. It IS affecting the quality of their concrete.@@TheExcellentLaborer
You don’t need it for something like that. More commercial stuff. Just pull up the wire during the pour and you’ll be fine. Or just be smart and use rebar with fiber in concrete and forget about the wire
@@BobaBabe5607 Is it just me or are they not doing that? Also, when they were bending the overlap of the wire mesh they were piercing the moisture barrier... Not sure I would be happy with this pour if it was my house.
What is your opinion of the wire mesh being on the bottom of the pad and not suspended in the middle of the pad? If not why use wire mesh - seems like a wast of money?
Asking about what would the cost be for just the garage part of the project. I’d need a raised foundation for a manufactured home. Would like the perimeter walls about 2ft high. The outside edge of the manufactured home is to sit flush to the outside edge of the perimeter walls. With some cosmetic work the manufactured home should end up looking like a stick build raised foundation home. Maybe $5K to $7K? More? I think the slab floor should be about 5 or 6 inches thick to support the Jack stands that hold up the center parts of the manufactured home. I’m thinking of a manufactured home about that is 40’x27’ (about 1,200 sq.ft.)
Hey guys I need some advice , a month ago we did stemp concrete to a customer and a few days ago he called and said that few places are really hard and sharp Does anyone have any idea how to s fix it without damaging the look??
Every electrician shuttered when the stamper cut off the conduit. Sorry to say, "tough shit." Professional concrete workers have to work around conduit and plumbing pipe protruding up out of a pour all the time. That is part of why they get paid the "big" bucks. If it was easy, anyone could do it! There is little to no proper way to connect to that cut conduit without chiseling up around the pipe which defeats the point of the stamping. If they were going to do that, I would have suggested the sweep 90 be installed with the bell end pointing up and positioned so it would be flush with the surface of the concrete. You can stuff the conduit with some rubberized material and a rag. They could have stamped over that and when it was all done, you could easily insert a fresh piece of pipe inside the bell end. It is incredibly frustrating when you spend time and effort setting up the materials for your trade only to have another one just come along and mess with it.
That drives me nuts too. I like to use cattle panels on rebar chairs. Not sure how the concrete reacts with the metal but oh well. Otherwise must use rebar. Could force them to put sheet remesh on top and work down but stepping on it ruins the purpose
Been doing stamped concrete for 20 years and first time I see someone hovering over the stamps! Bro they are STAMPS! So walk on top of them and STAMP! LOL.
'..Well, you have 2 types of concrete in the world. You have concrete that has cracked and you got concrete that's gonna crack..' WRONG! I've seen 50+yo concrete with no cracks. Hairline fissures are sometimes part of the drying/curing process. Cracks are not a normal process. Most cracks are due to engineering, inadequate prep, or abuse. Very seldom due to the mix.
Josh, I've got to tell you the difference in rebar and wire mesh. If and when you do get cracking, the rebar is going to hold both sides of the crack level, where the wire mesh will let the concrete move up and down. This is common sense, look at the diameter of the two materials and try to convince yourself they will both hold concrete from moving up and down. I also have found that cracking is held to a minimum with rebar on two foot centers. Concrete contractors find it faster and easier to use wire mesh, plus they pocket the difference in the price difference between wire mesh and rebar. If you have ever seen interstate highway concrete roadway being laid you can see they always use rebar. same with bridge building. Do it right the first time, especially with concrete because you don't get a second chance. Your videos are the best I have seen. No one knows all the trades in this day and time. Finding someone that actually knows what they are doing in one trade is a miracle now days. In the old days a builder actually did just that. He built the house, did all the trades jobs with few exceptions. That was how they controlled the quality of the build. And it meant everything to them to do it right. You embody that kind of talent, God bless you, sir.
Rebar + fiber is the move
Expansion joints- choosing where the cracks go, ,
Rebar- if you like them cracks straight,level and horizontal only.
Cause if u get a random Crack in floor it will run up.
What factors most in preventing concrete cracking are: quality of the mix, a properly consolidated base, and proper curing of the concrete.
Unfortunately, you will see very few if any concrete "professionals", especially in the YT arena, addressing all three.
The habit of inserting steel into the concrete stems from the desire to do the job quick. It does not prevent cracking hence cutting or scoring the slabs with saw or hand tool.
And if steel is applied to the concrete job, few if any "professionals" address the best practices when using rebar or steel mesh.
Oxidation of steel will occur especially when the concrete becomes compromised, and the steel is exposed to moisture and sometimes salt.
I always use rebar instead of mesh, a lot of times like in this video the mesh sits on the bottom doing nothing
This is crazy. I was looking for a stamp concrete video. Your videos are well explained and I found your channel about a week ago.
That is so cool! I hope you can get some good pointers from the concrete finishers in this video. Good luck with your project!
Concrete with the houses has some good stamped concrete vids too. I don't how many patterns they have. Josh's crew done an excellent job
This guy does an excellent job in all his videos showing and explaining. Alot of this stuff i already know but i have learned several tips and tricks i didnt know that will definitely save me time and money. Thank you sir for the vids
Stamped concrete is important to have all the tools and knowledge for sure. I've had jobs done by qualified contractors as well and even dying the cement as well. When you just do a small area you do learn to respect the crews that do it everyday.
I meant to ask if expansion joints are cut in at all in that size garage which you see a lot in our area.
You are very correct I'm wearing the proper footwear and other things as well. From experience even doing little things cement can burn your skin if not careful.
Thanks for the Fantastic video as always and may you and your family have a wonderful Memorial weekend. 🔨👍🏻
Yes, protecting your skin from the concrete is very important. I forgot to wear gloves, one time when handling concrete and my hands got really wrinkly. I won’t do that again! Thanks for your comment, David!
Definitely recommend a video on washing the release off. I just did it on my stamped walkway and it was a little stressful doing it for the first time. 😂😂
That’s a good video idea. Thanks for your input!
Great detail in this video! Nicely done.
Thanks for stopping by again. I love to see your comments!
Good video!!!Turned out great!!! Very interesting!!!
Thank you for watching!
U got that concrete work for a steal bro!
I definitely did for the quality of the work! Thanks for watching Scott!
Very good explanation video
Hey Josh, great work! I'm just wondering if building this building in such a low place might make it vulnerable to flooding.
You should provide places where to look for contractors. For instance i need a mason in my area and have no idea where to look.
Two types of concrete: Cracked and gonna crack! 🤣 Love it!
Nice - like the stamped crete
Thanks! It does look really cool. Thanks for watching!
Excellent content as usual!
I appreciate that. Hope all is well with you!
Another amazing video! I love how there is a large variety of useful videos. I get to learn something new every day! Thank you
Thank you so much! It was interesting watching these guys work. Stay tuned for more!
I really enjoy your channel. You’re doing excellent work and offer excellent advice. Not meant as a criticism at all I will comment that concrete was a bit on the soupy side flowing out of the chute. Again not meaning to critique just an observation. Keep up the good work wish I lived nearby I’d help you build that garage. 74 years old, 50 years in construction, know a few things have yet much to learn. Work safe🙂
I appreciate that Don! Any input is always welcome. I’m glad you like the channel. How do you put in a lot of hours in each video to try to make it as best as I can. Stay tuned for more to come. Take care!
Correct, Don. Should have been poured on a 3-4" slump per ACA guidelines. Many stampers will pour it soupier to make it easier, but it isn't the way to get the full strength that you should.
Hi Josh, love your videos,, great work Josh can you do a video on how to make a patio cement table, blessings.🙂👍
Thanks a lot, Derek! I’m actually going to build the outdoor kitchen countertop with concrete. It should be the similar concept. Stay tuned!
@@TheExcellentLaborer that's excellent Josh, can't wait to watch that video, God bless🙂👍
Great work bud 👍
Thank you so much! I appreciate it. Take care!
I noticed that they never brought the wire mess up into the middle of the concrete. That's a big red flag, it's meant to keep the concrete from cracking at random places. It doesn't do anything laying on the bottom of the concrete slab.
It was hard to catch it on camera, but the finisher pulled it up into the concrete as he was pouring it. Yes, it is supposed to be in the middle of the slab. Thanks for watching!
How does the drainage work on your property? It looks like your home site is at a lower elevation than land around it.
Nice jobs with your vids! However, as a former educator in the concrete industry, I have to note a few things. Your finisher may have pulled on it some, but it never could be seen sitting in the vertical middle of the concrete where it belongs. Pouring with wire is often a pain as you almost have to dedicate 1 person to pulling it up the entire time to get it well sited in the concrete. BTW, American Concrete Association rates wire mesh as a SECONDARY reinforcement that provides assistance in not allowing cracks to widen in concrete (which they rate fiber mesh poured within the concrete equal to wire mesh). It is NOT a PRIMARY reinforcement like rebar, which does the above job as well as provide tensile strength. The concrete provides the compressive strength. If your finishers are noticing cracking in line with their rebar, suggest to them to 1)Make sure it it lifted into the vertical middle of the slab for most applications (this varies per structural needs, but in general 4-6" slabs need it in the middle) and 2)reduce the water content of their pour. It IS affecting the quality of their concrete.@@TheExcellentLaborer
Very informative❤
Thank you, Sam!
2 questions. Why fid you not use vertical rebar in the block and why did you not use chairs for the wire mesh? Thank you
You don’t need it for something like that. More commercial stuff. Just pull up the wire during the pour and you’ll be fine. Or just be smart and use rebar with fiber in concrete and forget about the wire
When using the wire mesh do you set it up on “chairs” to set it off the ground and closer to the middle of the slab? Or is that not required there?
If you don’t use chairs you have to pull the wire when pouring the concrete
@@BobaBabe5607 Is it just me or are they not doing that? Also, when they were bending the overlap of the wire mesh they were piercing the moisture barrier... Not sure I would be happy with this pour if it was my house.
I noticed that to just get some wire ties and tie it together because when you rip a hole you need to tape it
No. You pull the wire up as you go.
When holding up a Duplex nail, keep it still for 3 to 5 seconds so I can see it.
What is your opinion of the wire mesh being on the bottom of the pad and not suspended in the middle of the pad? If not why use wire mesh - seems like a wast of money?
When can I schedule you to come take care of my concrete job?
Asking about what would the cost be for just the garage part of the project. I’d need a raised foundation for a manufactured home. Would like the perimeter walls about 2ft high. The outside edge of the manufactured home is to sit flush to the outside edge of the perimeter walls. With some cosmetic work the manufactured home should end up looking like a stick build raised foundation home. Maybe $5K to $7K? More? I think the slab floor should be about 5 or 6 inches thick to support the Jack stands that hold up the center parts of the manufactured home. I’m thinking of a manufactured home about that is 40’x27’ (about 1,200 sq.ft.)
36:14 that weather lip looks around 2-2.5 inches thick, that could def cause some issues over time
What does the vibratory plate compactor sound like
Hey guys I need some advice ,
a month ago we did stemp concrete to a customer and a few days ago he called and said that few places are really hard and sharp Does anyone have any idea how to s fix it without damaging the look??
Your experienced finishers. Need to pull that wire mesh up into the concrete. They are just pouring on top of the wire and it’s not serving a purpose
In a different comment, they addressed that. They did pull it up.
The only thing i didn't approve was the wire mesh not having a clearance from the visqueen via plastic chairs
They're ... playing ... Tetris
Great analogy! You are pretty much correct.
Every electrician shuttered when the stamper cut off the conduit. Sorry to say, "tough shit." Professional concrete workers have to work around conduit and plumbing pipe protruding up out of a pour all the time. That is part of why they get paid the "big" bucks. If it was easy, anyone could do it! There is little to no proper way to connect to that cut conduit without chiseling up around the pipe which defeats the point of the stamping. If they were going to do that, I would have suggested the sweep 90 be installed with the bell end pointing up and positioned so it would be flush with the surface of the concrete. You can stuff the conduit with some rubberized material and a rag. They could have stamped over that and when it was all done, you could easily insert a fresh piece of pipe inside the bell end. It is incredibly frustrating when you spend time and effort setting up the materials for your trade only to have another one just come along and mess with it.
what slump? 😲🤔
Why did they not pull the wire? That was a waste of wire mesh
I know you could not see them do that when the video was being filmed, but they did. Thanks for watching!
my boss makes me pull the mesh up with a home made hook during the raking
You may as well thrown the mesh away and saved $400. If you don't lift it up into concrete is does nothing.
That drives me nuts too. I like to use cattle panels on rebar chairs. Not sure how the concrete reacts with the metal but oh well. Otherwise must use rebar. Could force them to put sheet remesh on top and work down but stepping on it ruins the purpose
Been doing stamped concrete for 20 years and first time I see someone hovering over the stamps! Bro they are STAMPS! So walk on top of them and STAMP! LOL.
This guy does not know what he is doing lol
If you paid attention to the video he said why the guy was doing that. Maybe pay attention before leaving a comment that doesn't make sense
Why not use screws for the steaks also? Not being a smart ass. J.w
And the plastic has nothing to do with with the concrete setting up
That wirelmesh was pretty much worthless. No one pulled it off the bottom!!
In a different comment, they addressed that. They did pull it up.
Sorry but not a video I would recommend if your trying to learn
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'..Well, you have 2 types of concrete in the world. You have concrete that has cracked and you got concrete that's gonna crack..'
WRONG! I've seen 50+yo concrete with no cracks.
Hairline fissures are sometimes part of the drying/curing process. Cracks are not a normal process. Most cracks are due to engineering, inadequate prep, or abuse. Very seldom due to the mix.
Lol
I think stamping is going to get old. I think it’s just a waste of time for something that’s gonna become obsolete in about 10 years.
WOW they hosed it down to finish it? What the hell are they doing? Lol
LOL, Jesse does not know what he is doing.
This is not for beginners please don't try this if you value your hard earned money😂.