Make your Riding Mower Quieter for less then $30. A custom exhaust for mowers and tractors.
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- I'm installing a custom muffler setup on my riding mower. Is not hard, and its not expensive. For less then $30.00 I made my exhaust system that makes my rider at least 3 times as quiet. In fact, Now I hear the rear end, and the mechanical churn of the engine instead of the actual exhaust! This set up can be used with twin cylinder engines too. This is part of a series to videos I shot on converting a Riding mower into a "poor man's ATV".
I've finally gotten around to filming the mower with the dual exhaust. The link for it is this:ruclips.net/video/pruyVf_xhhM/видео.html Check it out, and when your done, check out my channel for many many other riding mower and garden equipment videos and demonstrations.
So cool! I am working on a similar project but I cant find a muffler. Where did you get that $3 canister that you welded ends on??
I was going to comment that you really needed to show the audio. Thanks for the 2nd video, it looks really good. I had done something similar to a portable generator. I just got one of the cheap "turbo" mufflers from the auto parts store, and a few adapters to bring it from the tiny outlet to the muffler's in port. I didn't have a welder at the time, so it was all clamped. It leaked horribly, but it did knock down the exhaust noise, leaving all the internal engine sounds.
Hearing the tractor run before and after would have been nice.
thats why this video got so many dislikes like wtf how do you not show a before and after
Yep, a real no-brainer.
@@LongWalkerActual he does a video a year later of it running. Found it in the atv playlist under this video. Actually really quite😳
@@midnightgardener8346 👍🙂👍
She don't run...
For those interested, I have nearly the exact same set-up (engine, mower, and mufflers are all the same as the video). I did a before/after decibel test and found that with the stock setup, my mower idled at 102 DB. After adding the sausage muffler to the line it idles at 90 DB. All other factors (time of day, microphone placement) were the same for both tests.
Thanks for the info!
12 decibels is very significant. The decibel scale is logarithmic, so it's an order of magnitude. Great idea. I doubt it would increase backpressure sufficiently to cause any engine damage.
like the others, I am blown away at the fact you didn't crank it for a before and after. Lol
no LOL Yes BS
Wait... What..? I'd just assumed... Guess I'll stop watching
Thanks I refound this video mine is busted up so I plan to use your ideas mine craftsman is really loud, plus exhaust can go out back. Enjoy your farm this spring!
Good luck!
Thanks
I had this sears mower with a Tecumseh engine that I found in a little illegal dump up the rode from my house where I always rode my dirt bike. We always picked it. Hell we even found around 3000 8 inch block that was new one time. Anyhow I was about 10 and the only thing we found wrong with the mower was the handle was rusted and it was missing the exhaust and governor linkage. So I put a new handle on it, wired it wide open and put about an 6 inch piece black pipe for an exhaust. Boy I'm glad I had really good neighbors because that sucker was LOUD AF. It worked until a few years ago when it finally flew apart in my fathers front yard.
It's amazing what people will throw away isn't it? Your younger self sounds like my younger self. Always dragging cool stuff home to create new cool stuff!
Found your video while searching for a way to fabricate a 'quiet' muffler for a vintage generator I purchased. The duel muffler isn't going to work for me but you have given me a few more ideas to explore. Thanks for the video and I hope that you make more. Thumbs up.
keep in mind when you change transmission pulleys, its not designed to spin faster, if its never been opened before, take the time to clean all the nasty old grease out and put fresh gear oil/ grease in. i wrecked a 5 speed peerless once because it had the 15 year old original nasty grease in it. dynamarks are my fav brand of tractors, theyre easy to maintain, the deck has one pin holding it in.
Hey Farpoint Farms. That is a great idea. I have to use head phones to deaden the noise. Thanks for sharing.🍁👍👍
Very enjoyable video!! I've been racking my brain trying to figure out how to quiet down my 18.5 horse Craftsman, and now I know! The information on the pulley for increasing speed was also very helpful. Keep up the good work!
He leveraged the welded output side of the front muffler @ 6:22 and then bent it back in line right after. It was compromised at that point and he knew it but kept going. Hence the "sniff" of panic @ 6:34. The entire welded on nipple cracked @ 6:41. Probably the reason for the edit at 6:48. I think the cracked muffler output is the reason he didn't start it.
Very perceptive
BAM. Love these types of responses. Nice. :)
YEAH, I SEEN THAT SNAP HAPPEN AFTER HE PUT THE MUFFLER ON!! 😅
THAT AWKWARD STARE!!!
HHHHAAAAHHAAHAHAHA
The whole feeling changed xd XD...
Black pipe is a very low-grade steel which is why the nipple cracked from those massive welds. I imagine there were other cracking issues down the road. ;P
These make great little farm helpers most the time it's the decks that go out and you can get them cheap for even free . Build a neat little trailer and small push blade. Also if you get the old transmissions there pretty tough the hydrostatic ones are ok just have to be easy and the plastic drives are a nogo. Mine even has mini tractor tires lifted a few inches took like an hour , and my best thing is the little plow. 🤗 . Just remember keep all the attachment small and it will last forever. I installed a 35 amp mini Chevy alternator and a 1200 watt inverter. Now I have power and I can even jump off my big tractor 😁👍
I've been thinking about the alternator/ Inverter setup for running power tools up at the property line. It sure would be nice. Cool ideas!
Eric, How wonderfully inventive! I wish you had spent more time detailing what you did to modify the front muffler. I have the same engine and mower layout. This makes a perfect mod for a mower that will never see a deck again.
Good news. If you watch my video on the Harbor Freight welder I bought, I actually use it to weld that front muffler up. Take a look, I suck at welding, but it shows close ups of that front muffler and the mods I made ot it to make it work.
thanks for letting us hear the results of that mess
WILLIAM COD
Dana Spicer produces the majority of transmissions and drive lines for many vehicles. They were founded in 1904 and regularly post manufacturing profits over eight billion dollars a year.
Good to hear it. USA made?
@@FarpointFarms Absolutely, made in Maumee Ohio.
Very nice video. No background noise and you were very clear on the subject of modifying riding mowers. Very good.
I really appreciate you showing this. Thanks for your time and effort.
wow it worked, it doesn't make any sound, amazing..... I'll buy it... hahahaha.
Edgar Escarate
HHHHAAAAHHAAHAHAHA
Great info😉
I welded 2 of the bigger mufflers together face to face wrapping sheet steel outside of them when I swapped opposed twin for a vanguard engine works great.
Ok I understand that everyone would have liked to hear a before and after of this setup, the problem is that on camera it is near impossible to tell the difference. The little mic that's on my camera cuts down on loud noises and amps up quiet ones, so it sounds about the same to it. But in real life I would say its sound level has been reduced by at least 60%. Its not wisper quiet, but there is no point to trying to shut it up any further. Its quiet enough now that other sounds the beast makes are louder. I hear the mechanical portions of the engine and more so the transmission way more then the exhaust now. Actually the trans is really noisy at higher speeds. almost too loud.
Hi, a decibel reader would be able to handle the demonstration of before and after. If you didn't want to purchase one, they have somewhat decent apps for smartphones as well. I believe this would be helpful to demonstrate it.
***** I didn't know that something like that was available. I will see if I can find one for my old phone and post an update.
With the camera, you can use a reference point. Yes, they all have audio limiters in them, so a comparison would entail having 2 audio sources. Engine one, and you speaking (or YELLING, as it were) the other. Obviously you would have to yell over the engine noise in the before. In the after, it can be heard the difference in the level of your voice to overcome the engine noise. It's something you'd have to record and play back a time or two to get the best comparison.
Awesome video! Great project! Love how you used stock items to build it. i am doing something similar to my craftsman lt1000 with no mowing deck. :)
I would be very extremely surprised if Dana Spicer is no longer in business since in the past they were the number one largest producer of off-road drivetrain components for off-road vehicles in the country!!!!!!
It appears that I may have called their extinction a bit early.
More useless trivia:
Tiny Tim popularized the song "Tiptoe Through the Tulips" that was originally performed in a movie called "Gold Diggers of Broadway" back in the 1920.
Another old song made famous in recent years by Dick Martin in a movie called "The Jerk" was "Tonight You Belong to Me" was written back in 1952 and popularized by two young girls in 1955 called Patience and Prudence.
Both of these songs were thought by a huge part of the population to be written for the movies that they were in.
There are many other examples of popular songs being much much older than most people had any idea of.
Both original songs can be found on RUclips by their original performers.
I told you it was useless information. 😃😁😉🙄
Would have been nice to have heard the before and after modification difference. I would have liked to hear how much improvement it made. Good idea. Don't know much about this but wondered if this creates more back-pressure.
You gave me a good idea for my craftsman riding mower, thanks.
Glad I could help
I posted on another video about finding a motorcycle muffler. I have an antique Sears Suburban with a cast iron Briggs 14 horse on it. It was way too loud a d after plumbing in that muffler and facing it downward along the grill it has a decent tone that is relaxing now. I've never been to one but would assume a Harley shop would have tons of muffles piled up because most have the factory mufflers dropped before riding home.
Dana/Spicer is NOT out of business.
Should have run it before and after to show the noise difference, if any.
I was hoping for a before and after noise check but I see you have a part 2. Cool l !
Are you seriously not going to start it up and run it to show everyone just how much quieter it is??? Your other videos don't show it either. Lame
If Dave is lost in the mountains he might as well stay there.Can you freakin read?He explained why he didn't demonstate the sound.Damn idiot.
Brian Jones most people clicked this video in the hopes that we would hear the difference
May I recommend header-wrapping the pipe that goes underneath the running board? Even that small Briggs and Stratton engine is going to heat that exhaust system incredibly hot, which could make the running board too hot to touch. With the hood down, it looks almost factory!
Great idea. Thanks!
Erik, Thank you for the update and you are making perfect sense...
The only way to make mowners quiet os to build mufflers with bufflers inside, 3 or 4 chabers with different lenght separated by bufflers. Normally 6 mm holes is enought. I built one years ago and worked perfektly, the noise of the blade was really noticeble and the motor almost just mechanic noise.
silencing the engine is a good idea, exiting the exhaust so near of the operator is a bad idea as fumes will poison him.
typically, an air cooled engine runs on a rich mixture to control temperature and a rich mixture produce carbon monoxyde in huge quantity.
where do you use your riding mower at? Do you just sit on it with it running in a glass box? Usually I'm outdoors and moving.
Don't let the entitled griper's get to ya, I appreciate the knowledge your sharing. Thank you.
I appreciate that
sound comparison before and after would be nice!!! the support brackets should be spring mounted for chassis flex. you have a lot to learn about making videos.
This was literally shot on a VHS camcorder.
love little projects like this
It wasn't all that hard to piece together and it made for a much nicer ride.
Eric, appreciate the response. All I was getting at... would be good to have the dimensions of the front muffler. I would have helped me to know the length of the modified front muffler. I did watch your welding demo, but again no dimensions. I sourced the front muffler from O'reilly's ( $8.00 or so). To get the 18'' pipe to lay under the frame as I want it required building this twice and I'm still under $30. You never mentioned it but the 'sausage' muffler is a 3/4'' inlet and that is the only size available and it is my belief that directional orientation should be maintained. I really enjoy your practical mods.
I did the same thing years ago except I used a union so the exhaust was removeable.
on this episode of the walking dead, neegan puts a muffler on a lawnmower
Just for that, 1/2 of your stuff now belongs to me. Don't make me get Lucy!
lol! !
i installed a harley sportster muffler on mine. May not believe it, but it's much quieter than the stock muffler.
Cool. I never thought of a used motorcycle muffler, but that would be way easier to fit on a mower than a car type muffler.
that is the quietist mower ive ever heard, bar none...i cant believe how quiet it was, i could barely hear it run...
Look for part 2. It should have shown up in the description.
My method is cheaper. I put on a headset with zeppelin cranking.
That works too!
Yeah, older lawn tractors are kinda like a poor mans atv. I’ve got 4-5 of em. 4 of em are garden tractors. All of my mowers don’t mow the lawn anymore. I’ve found that w ones that are rly old parts are $ to get em to mow, so if I save the $ I’d sped getting it to mow I can have another tractor, if better yet get a tractor that already cuts grass. Idk abt if the engine is crappy if I get it cheap enough I’ll just drop another motor in it. Just. I Kohler Courage, & brigs 17-21hp single cylinder… they’re trash. Brigs intec motors are pretty good.
Thanks for the info!!!! My yard man has been too loud! Now I can quiet her down....
Kids... If you are reading this.... DO NOT do it! The Muffler used in this Video is rated for 8HP Engines or less. Any Engines that is 8HP+, you can do it, but Pipes and Muffler would have to be bigger or your HP will be robbed!
Come on Erik. We didn't Hear your modification on the exhaust. How much more quiet was that two muffler exhaust?
I know this upload is pretty old.... Nice idea. Far cheaper than OEM pipe and muffler setups (two - cylinder units anyway). The pipe seems kind of heavy, I wonder if it might break off at the head. I really like the idea. Thanks for posting.
It has held up pretty well so far. I am sure there might be lighter pipes that I could have used but I did not think it would have lasted long.
Dana Spicer is a multi billion dollar international corporation that's been in business since 1904.
! WOW !
It's so quiet I couldn't even hear it
FYI I use a mini bike with a small trailer hitch.
wow, I am sure that is a sight to see.
We must run on the same wave length. I saw a vid where a guy put a V8 in a tractor and was so proud at how loud it was. Now if he got it as quit as dads old buick it would really be cool. Any one can let them scream da.
Don't skimp on the brackets. As the years go by it will wallow out the threads into the engine. Like a little bit with an iron engine or a whole lot with an aluminum engine. I was into that in 1960's
I like the design but I can't help to think a flex tube would help with that rigid pipe possibly cracking the head iof the engine.
Nice work. Great DIY.
You mentioned a 90 degree elbow with female threads. Are you sure? Perhaps it IDENTIFIES as a male. Sorry, just had to comment on the lunacy of our times. It would have been helpful if you had started it so viewers could hear it with the new "pipes". Thanks for a very interesting video.
That was the first video I made on it- I did not add it
Aren't you going to start it up and demonstrate the noise reduction?
This was one of my first videos- hindsight on my part
Spicer still makes a ton of things
Why didn't you let us hear it when you were done?
Check out part 2!
If you put two of those little mufflers, would it be even much quieter, or past diminishing returns?
I don't think it would make a huge difference.
Kind of late on this one but it sure would have been nice if you'd have ran so we could hear the difference.
wherer did you get he first in line muffler
Um, That is all fine and dandy when you don't have a mower deck, linkage and belts to deal with.
Dana incorporated 8.6 billion I sales for 2019.. very much still in business even today lol. But they're very into heavy duty anymore.. because big equipment big money.
Hey! Do you still have this mower? I’m trying to fix my brake/clutch assembly on this exact mower but I can’t seem to adjust it right and it’s not shifting while the mower is running! Any shot you’ve got a photo/video of the underside for reference. Thanks!
I don't sorry
thanks for starting it defeats the whol vid
I set through the video to here it run before and after to see how quiet it you made it. Good video, I'm just a little disappointed is all
Farmers kick-ass 👍
No pipe thread sealer or pipe dope? I would like to see if this sucks away the power while cutting back sound.Should have had a before and after test to see if this is going to work.
I would use some high temp anti seize just in case you have to take something apart in the future... which is "now" i guess.
You can do a front engine pulley flop like I have seen in a video on you tube!
Wow I watched this whole thing to hear the results . Well sir I will make a mental note to never watch another one of your videos.
Got me once shame on you it won't be twice
I was so shocked years ago that people were all but hurt that I didn't start it. I didn't know I needed to prove what I was doing worked. Well, a year later, I made a part 2 with it running. I honestly don't care if you watch it or not, but I do honestly want to know why people want to hear it. Over video it all sounds the same to me.
And the pipes shrink from the heat and loosen, rattle and leak. Engines need the right amount of back pressure to run well.
sure
I wanted to hear the motor run and see how quiet it made the mower.
good idea...gave me an idea on how to replace the muffler cheaper on my old 1972 bolens thanks
And the change in back pressure won't hurt the engine at all? The extra muffler, the 45° elbow, and extra pipe all add to back pressure
You cant put the mowing deck on with that setup though right? Like for other people wanting to mow
You're right, it's so quiet you can't even hear it run.
Check out part 2.
great video ! get that exhaust further back, good idea.
Great video! 👍 looks awesome!
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Can you tell the reduction in decibels that this modifications achieved? I was always searching for something like this because the mowers always are about 95-105 decibels which is terribly noisy.
I'm sorry, I have no way to test that. I can tell you it's about 1/2 of the noise level it was before this mod.
@@FarpointFarms
Half? Wtf happened to "at least 3 times as quiet"??
I guess you just say whatever strikes your fancy.
I hate to tell you this, but a/the single muffler (assuming there is one) is not the loudest part of that engine. Search for "4x Quieter generator in 10 seconds" and "Quiet a generator with an automotive muffler" by sixtyfiveford. I remember that in at least one of those he measures the decibel levels from different points on the engine...
Plumbing pipe eventually shrinks from the heat and rattles inside the threads for the muffler. So when you have elbows and a set route for the exhaust how do you deal with the rattling pipe?
On this setup it's been the opposite issue. the threads all rusted and locked up tight. I can't get any of it apart to work on anything.
What’s the point of making an exhaust video if you’re not gonna let it run
Why dont the manufactures do this anyway. I use an old snapper cause the exhaust gas from front engine mowers is horrible. Great vid thanks
I’d be afraid to put that system in a mower that’s still used to cut grass. The hot exhaust pipe would catch dry grass clippings on fire.
I haven't cut with this setup, but I certainly have run it though some tall dry grasses (hay) and haven't ad any issues yet. I suppose you could make a heat shield for it.
Hi Erik, I'm trying to do this also to my old MTD, much the same, no cutting deck, etc. Just a few questions, what kind of pipes are those and where did you get them? I ask cuz I was trying to find exhaust pipes and connectors, but with no luck. Any help much appreciated, pls bear in mind I'm in UK not NA
I want to do your double muffler setup but cant find the front muffler like you used, with treads at both ends? Did you weld a pipe nipple on it?
It sounds great lol
Part 2?
Can't believe you didn't include before and after audio to demonstrate how much reduction in noise you achieved.
hind site on the video- it was one of my very first ones.
I cant believe you havent even started it after 10 min of watching!
Pawel Barczak If you want to hear it run, check out part 2. This is a how to video, not a demonstration video.
its been a year ..is it still running or did you burn a valve by pointing the exhaust down. small engines do not have enough to force heat out of a long down pointed pipe.. believe me. experience is quite exspensive
She's still running! I left the unit outside last year, and this spring it starts and runs, but the steering is rusted up and hard top turn. I just picked up another mower to make into a new "Poor man's ATV" so we will start again. I took the head off to replace the head gasket last fall and the valves looked fine.
its the new red green channel. but without the duck tape....
Question. Where do you find mufflers threaded on both ends? Help!!!
I made a video on it-ruclips.net/video/CFDg_ldfWoE/видео.html
Dude! You just voided the warranty on this mower!! Disclaimer first, would be in order.
Oh come on. 1. Let's hear it 2. That foot rest is going to get very hot.
Have long thought about doing something similar to my 17Hp Craftsman, I have to wear earplugs with the stock exhaust, And I'd breathe in less of it if I piped it back.
Isn't it going to be blowing an awful lot of heat on the transaxle and possibly cause a failure of the axel seals and maybe even create a lot of excess heat blown on the drive belt possibly? I will be curious to see a future video to see how it's all working out.
modify an ic quiet engine muffler. They are super quiet. usually found on briggs.
Love it!