MATT THORNE - ROUGH CUTT 3, Orgins of RATT & Much More
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Matt Thorne discusses his early days in RATT including co-writing ‘ Back for More’ and his career with ROUGH CUTT including the new record 3... plus Jailhouse, his recording studio & more!
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Many years ago MT helped develop a small band I was involved with. He is one of the rare good ones in the industry. Talented but also a good human.
Matt Rules! Fun Fact: Matt is the guy who engineered, mixed and co-produced the Tuff song "American Hairband"... along with a bunch of other related stuff... love me some MT Studios!
Very cool, I know him & I discussed it, but might have been off the air
"Wants You" is one of my favorite albums from the 80s! Matt's bass tone was HUGE on that album, and his playing was a big influence on me. Still remember the Carvin ad with him endorsing them...Killer!
ditto on Wants You, still a great disc....
It was Amir’s bomber plane guitars that first ever turned me on to Rough Cutt. Dude just looked like a rock star. Take Her, Dreamin Again, Black Widow........ love them!
Matt sounds like one hell of a good and honest man. Very good interview with him.
Love rough cutt hell yeah 🤘🤘🤘🤘 been a fan since 84-85 takes me back to highschool! Both albums to me were beyond awesome always to me thought they want better then motley Crue! There just as good & better musicians! Hell yeah 🤘 thank you Matt for the killer memories back in the day and I'm glad I got see rough cutt back in those days!
His version of Rough Cutt is the one I’m following.
Me too
@@WasteSomeTimewithJasonGreen Same :) Excited for this interview :) Ask him about playing with Jake in Ratt :)
Hey Jason, one day you gotta tell us how you got Jason Green Day in Vegas 👍
What a wild lineage Matt has - connected to so many. Loved every story, could have listened to you two all day. Great interview Jason!!
Thank you! He’s definitely had an Interesting life
Thanks Patrick
This was one of the most honest guests I've seen interviewed on any show of this type. Kudos to Matt. He told the truth, Rough Cutt just didn't have the songs people. Shortino can sing, the musicians were talented in R Cutt, but the songs just weren't there. So many of these bands blame the label, the A&R guy, the producer, somebody's wife etc, but ultimately if you had the songs and you were with a major label in the 80's, and got on MTV which R Cutt did, you were probably going to make it, at least to the point of getting a gold record. If you still failed despite everything I mentioned being in place, in all likelihood you just didn't have any great songs. I give this guy major props for admitting the truth about Rough Cutt. There are plenty of other bands like R Cutt I could mention who had major label support, got on MTV, and toured opening for major acts in the 80's and didn't make it that make loads of excuses, this guy didn't. Thoroughly impressed with Matt. I also must point out, there is a common misconception about Van Halen that they were as big with hagar as they were with Roth, or even more crazy that they were somehow bigger with hagar than with Roth. Nothing could be further from the truth on both counts. Van Halen have sold 34 million albums with Roth as compared to 18 million with hagar. In addition, the 2007 reunion tour with Roth dwarfed the 2004 reunion tour with hagar in regards to average tickets sold per night, overall tickets sold for the tour, and gross revenue generated. It wasn't even close people. To take it a step even further the 1984 album had been certified 5 times platinum in its first 13 months of release, it's now over 10 times platinum total. 5150 by way of comparison took almost 3 years to be certified 4 times platinum, it's now 6 times platinum total. So there absolutely was a significant dropoff from 1984 to 5150. People became confused because 5150 charted at #1 and 1984 #2, hence many believed that 5150 was the bigger album, but this is totally false, and verifiable. The difference between VHalen and almost all other bands with the singer switch is that hagar inherited the vocal spot in VH when they were coming off the biggest album of their career, and were arguably the biggest rock band in the world. When Dio inherrited the vocal positionin Sabbath for instance, Sabbath were dying in the U.S. Their last album with Ozzy in 1978 had tanked, and the 1978 tour with Ozzy wasn't very successful. Dio had to help resurrect Sabbath in every way. Hagar faced no such obstacle. 5150 was very likely going to go at least probably 2 times platinum no matter who was singing at the time of its release, the interest was hugely intense in 1986 to hear what VH would sound like without Roth, because again VH were at their commercial zenith coming off the 1984 album and tour. I'm not saying VH weren't successful with hagar, they were, but they were NEVER as big with hagar as they were with Roth, and the numbers bear that fact out. Then the 2 reunions with the 2 different frontmen happened within 3 years of each other in the first decade of the new millennium, and the tour with Roth, and the ensuing dominant business numbers achieved by the 2007 Roth led reunion tour as opposed to the 2004 reunion with hagar cemented the fact that Van Halen's legacy will always lie with David Lee Roth. Again, kudos to Matt. Love the honesty. It was refreshing to see.
Articulate, you. '80s RC very much had some amazing songs though. They were anthemic as well as blues-edgy, and Shortino's chops have always been undeniable
my brother rip, turned me on to rough cutt, they were something special
Great Interviewer + Great guest/ storyteller.. I considered it The-Ratt-Py !!! The morning after my fav song ..Thank you Orgy, trapt .. pearcy solo stuff.. your a rough cutt above the rest MT. Hope to catch you on the road or the sea (cruise). Jason keeps bringing everyone "Back for More"!!
Thanks for the nice words, glad you dig these conversations
Thanks SKi
I went to Riley Elementary in Clairemont. San Diego, that's my home, everybody, yeah yeah!
I'd say your channel is the best on RUclips for da kind of music we dig. Well done. Great interview!
Another great interview! Thanks Jason!
Thanks David!
💥Jason ….
Love these interviews !!! Thanks for your time doing these !
🟩 ROUGH CUTT was such a great band ! Loved both of their Albums on Warner Bros ! I’d like to mention some of the other great bands I like from this Era , That didn’t break huge , but still had Major Label deals , some good songs , and videos that I like …. They include : ICON , KING KOBRA , COLD SWEAT , THE SCREAM , 220 VOLT , SLIK TOXIC , BLUE TEARS , DIRTY LOOKS , MALICE , WILDSIDE , and so many other . Cheers 🍺🎶🍺🎶👍🏻
Cheers from Canada Jason. I enjoy your interviews. Keep up the great work.
Awesome interview and video! The new album "III" is amazing and a must have! If you haven't heard it yet, you need to grab a copy! : )
Thanks for the kind words JJ
@@MattThorneAudio no problem Matt! Thank you for the amazing album!
Matt this is a great interview. I ment them in Antioch opening up for DIO at the concert barn. We stayed at the same hotel the motel 6
Matt are you crazy mate ? We like it loud is a brilliant tune , absolutely perfect. You’re being a bit hard on yourself there buddy
completely unaware of this guy...but great interesting interview...especially early rough cutt/ratt era..
Thank you, I think sometimes the people we don’t know about it, make the best interviews to watch
I saw Rough cutt in md in the 80s
Wants You is an excellent record. I believe if Matt revisited that record, he’d realize that the songs are much better than he remembers. The Night Cries Out For You is a killer power ballad. Let ‘em Talk and the funky Hot n Heavy were stand-outs, too. Btw, Dave Alford’s drumming was unique (not to mention how he commanded his massive single-kick kit) and played perfectly for the songs. He is a much better drummer than most in his genre. Shortino and Alford helped differentiate RC from the other pop-metal bands of the time. Unfortunately, their label seemed to have little interest in promoting the records and they were using an absolutely terrible band name.
Every word u said is accurate. Dave Alford drumming style stood out to me then and still does whenever I revisit those albums.
Wants You was my favorite out of the two albums they did.
Rock the USA was cool. I heard it on late night radio with my tape recorder ready to capture it as a kid. That riff ended up getting lifted on to one I wrote at the time, accidentally of course. Good riffs are like likkle viruses that wrap themselves around your subconscious and re appear into your writing... That's my excuse anyway
Hey Matt both those albums are incredible and as good as any of those bands that made a lot of sales. It doesn’t matter how many people get it, if you sold 1 it don’t make the songs less great. And the size of the audience you get, ya just gotta be happy with whatever the size is.
If Paul didn’t have it, he wouldn’t have been able to continue making cds.
Great interview
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed it
Great info
Such a great interview! Huge Rough Cutt fan. Always thought they were underrated. What a kind person Matt is. Happy to see them well and thriving. Amir interview possible.??
Not only is an Amir interview possible, it drops today at 10am pst
@@WasteSomeTimewithJasonGreen Just saw this on my lunch break. So excited! The teenager still alive in me is fan-girling hard LOL Appreciate what you do!
Thanks Tiffany! I’m glad you’re into it and keeping it alive!
Thank you Tiffany. Amir’s is up
Shocked to hear his story of Warner Brothers signing them. I had always assumed they just signed the band as a favor to Ronnie no questions asked.
I'm shocked Matt doesn't know the name of The Last In Line album.
GREAT interview, Jason! What is the "high tech software" to patch in audio for zoom ? 😀
Rough cutt is incredible.. would love to hear the Demos with Perry McCarty
I had one. 3 songs. I wish someone would upload it. I lost mine .
The songs I remember were called Dynamite and Sex In Motion. There was one other song. This was around 1988.
This might happen one day
@@MattThorneAudio thanks for your reply..love the new cd
Great interview! Good to put a voice to Matt's face. Didn't know he involved in Tell the World, Back for More nd Morning After🖒! Done a great job on Smash and View to a Thrill! This interview filling in gaps in my Ratt knowledge. All the San Diego connections you couldn't make it up! Good tracks on Rough Cutt 3. Did Matt have something to do with Dusk by Badlands as well? Thanks guys👌
Yes, I mixed that record with Jake
@@MattThorneAudio Thanks for reply Matt. Seems like you have something to do with most of my favorite music👌🖒!
What I tell bands is make a compilation video of bits of each song with links and information on the video of where to purchase. Maybe one complete video and one compilation, you want the rest you have to buy it.
Nice interview ! Thanks Jason! Love Ratt! Could you interview Rex Carroll from Whitecross , and why he left whitecross! Scott Wenzel lead singer of Whitecross sounded like Stephen Pearcy! Rex Carroll awesome guitar player!
Whitecross - the Christian version of Ratt like Barren Cross was to Maiden. Rex was very good.
Rock On!!!
The cover was Blue Monday by new order. I have that album.
I think he’s referring to an earlier demo he recorded for them, before the Blue Monday cover which ended up on the record
It ended up on a Rod Stewart Tribute Record called Forever Mod 1998.”Hot Legs”www.discogs.com/Various-Forever-Mod-A-Tribute-To-Rod-Stewart/release/7539062
Also on there is “I’m Losing You” with Stephen Pearcy, Warren DeMartini and myself.
I'm a fan of all these guys and the only issue I have is these guys claiming deception because the other guys have been all over social media since Matt and Amir walked away from the reunion. They were open about making the record and the video for months before it came out.
Hi Jason, here's "probably" some useless trivia. Salty Dog (Come Along) with Khurt Maier (drums) that was mentioned in this video played with Michael Hannon (bass & Salty Dog/American Dog) from Columbus, Ohio that was mentioned in the Dangerous Toys video you recently did with Jason McMaster. To me, it's fascinating how the 80's music scene in LA is so interconnected like a big spider web. Everyone really did know everyone else. Just thought of someone else I'd like to see an interview with. Brian "Damage" Forsythe - Kix & Rhino Bucket. Hardly anyone ever talks to him especially about Rhino Bucket. I think Brian is in Nashville. There's an excellent concert clip of Rhino Bucket filmed in Spain that looks like it's filmed in some ones basement. Was surprised how great it sounds. I've watched it a few times. Simon (AC/DC) played with Rhino Bucket for a short while but you probably already know that ;). Really enjoying your videos.
These Rough Cutt interviews are phenomenal, Jason. Need a nice Jake E. Lee interview to round them out. I know you’re trying brother. 🤞🏻
Subscribed. 👊
Jailhouse had a following and Major label interest before Dave, Matt, and Amir joined. Once those guys joined, the following continued to grow, but the major label interest went away. Micheal Raphael hinted that the labels were possibly turned off by the Rough Cutt guys joining, but he didn’t realize it until years later.
Hey Jason, does Craig Goldy or Gregg Giuffria have any interest in wasting some time with you??
Stopping through
Thanks, hope you’re well
@@WasteSomeTimewithJasonGreen yes things are starting to get interesting because I'm getting close to firing up one of the cars I hand built frame up... I'm starting to feel better after my wisdom teeth extraction finally.. just farm life mostly nowdays
Must.say never a fan of Rough Cutt always saw them in magazines anyway checking.out the interview when.over to the site checking.out the new record I like it checking.out the samples love the song Bleed going by the cd check.out the.older records
I've been a Rough Cutt fan since 1985, they always were a cut above the bands in that scene, lots of potential but the music business is straight up fuckery sadly.
One sentence? Tired.😂
The new release is great, only a couple weak songs in the middle
I wish Jake E Lee would get involved with the Rough Cutt guys again, hate to break it to him but nobody really cares about his Red Dragon Cartel. That's my thought as I listen to him recount the early days.
Hilarious that he can't remember the last Pearcy album which he plays on and isn't that old.
Matt you are a gentleman. I would not forgive that deception. You are way above that. Not cool.
The first Rough Cutt album kicked ass. The 2nd was lacking. Sounded forced
Dave ....man....SMH. I don't know. Maybe its the booze. 2 faced drama. No thanks.