She's the Nameless Star. She whispered to Sora something. Now in this scene, Sora says 'that Girl, she told me about you" Yozora's girl has lost her body, her Heart is in the Final World. Yozora is trying to save that girl. He is told to "save Sora." He wanders into the Final World, runs into Sora. He's realized he wasn't told to save his own Sora, but a different Sora. Therefore, the Nameless Star is named Sora and is Yozora's girl.
Christian Longo but if you played KH3 did you see if Sora talked with a other Girl in the game not named Kairi, Namine, Aqua? By process of elimination the nameless star can only be Streletzia or this other Sora because our Sora says this girl told me about you just think about it
@Christian Longo "why would yozora tell the actual sora “i’ve heard of you” if that was his girls name he wouldn’t of said that." Because he made a wrong assumption. He was told to "save Sora," thinking that it was referring to the Sora he knows. He meets the Sora he's supposed to save, and sees that it's not the same person. He says "I've heard of you" after he realizes that it's a different person.
@Christian Longo "He wouldn’t say I’ve heard of you then because it’s not like he knew there are alternative versions of characters." Who says they are alternate versions of each other? They could just have the same name. And him saying that he heard of Sora is the logical thing to say upon realizing that the person he's supposed to save is a complete stranger. "Plus he wouldn’t of attacked him." We have no idea what "saving" Sora means, nor do we know how he plans to go about this. We can't assume what actions he will take since we don't have enough information to go off of. "Yes he may of been trying to save somebody else but the verum rex character aka Stella is not named sora" I honestly do not see how this is relevent. Verum Rex might have taken some concepts from FFV13, but we have no reason to believe that Stella and this other female character are the same people. They don't even look alike. We have no reason to believe that they have the same name.
For those saying, Yozora said "I've heard of you" so she can't be named Sora... Yozora realized that the Sora he was told to save wasn't his own. That's why he says "why are you using that name?"
Ok... Yozoras girl, the nameless star, recognizes yozora as a completely different looking person... she told sora that "his heart was replaced with another" And she's clearly talking about someone named yozora here because sora said "wait, that girl, she told me about you" and yozora tells sora "this isnt what I really look like". So yozoras heart is in the wrong body entirely. So what am I getting at here? I have a theory that the heart that originally belonged to this noctis/riku lookalike is actually Luxu's original body. Reason being is the crossbow similarity, xigbar/Luxu and this yozora characters are the only 2 in kingdom hearts to use a crossbow. So now that we know what Luxu's original body is, I think yozora is the first body/vessel he switched to. And this vessel/yozora's real body is who the nameless star is talking about and who she is picturing in her mind when talking about yozora. I just wonder what yozora actually looks like. This is all just a theory so it could be wrong
@@Z-A-C ohhhhhh hell no bro that is a great theory. Never ever doubt yourself. Your a great KH fanatic like myself and I stand behind you on that. All I'm saying is it's an alternate universe and the nameless star is the female sora. Nomura even gave us the clue when she said "they took my name" that's when I knew she's an alternative sora. But that was definitely an amazing theory. Fucking crossbow gun was in front of me and I didn't realize it. Not to mention Luxord was the uber driver in the good ending. So my question is who the hell is really Luxord??
@@glennjackson8302 I cant wait to see if all these theories come true or not. But I am completely dead set on that yozora theory in that luxu swapped bodies with him. And the nameless star, I'm not gonna call her sora, for me theres just not enough evidence to conclude that's her name, theres a lot of ways to debunk that theory but its completely possible. Luxord is a very interesting character, one that I feel like has a connection to brain with the whole "gambler of fate" thing. And I'm pretty sure he knows alot about yozora
Because, he realized that the Sora he was told to save wasn't his own. Naturally, if you tell someone about someone but you pictures someone else and then realize you were picturing the wrong person, you still heard of that person.
Who said Yozora is Riku? Not me. I said Yozora is Riku from an Alternate Universe. Completely different. And no, in the Limit Cut scene before this Yozora/Sora one, Riku talks about a dream he had and it was the Secret Ending from KH3. So Riku wasn't fully there but in his dreams.
Podcast Now I think Kairi will dream drop too, she’s also key, the game pretty much tells you that Riku, Kairi and a mystery third person (most likely Yozora) are key. It’s also interesting that Kairi has been voluntarily asleep for a year just like Sora at the end of COM. Nomura loves his parallels:)
@@PodcastNow but you forgot to mention that Yozora specifically said that he was tasked with saving Sora. And he acted surprised when he met sora,not because he looked different,but because his target/objective just appeared out of nowhere in front of him. I'm pretty sure MOM or whoever gave him the trials is the one who told him the name sora.
I disagree. The Nameless Star says that Yozora’s heart has been replaced with another’s and therefore doesn’t remember her, which includes her name. This is supported by Yozora saying that his current form isn’t what he really looks like, him questioning Sora how he recognizes him “as Yozora”, his lack of reaction to Sora’s mention of the Nameless Star, and the title of the cutscene where Sora and Yozora meet, “Falsus Rex (False King)”. If Yozora were to have a counterpart in another world, it wouldn’t be Riku even though they appear similarly. Sora would be that counterpart because they are both the protagonists of their story and their name correlates to each other (Sky/Night sky). Above the correlation to Sora and Riku, however, is Noctis from FFVXIII/XV.
There's no proof that she is the reason he's reacting to Sora's name with surprise, but that he does react shows he knows something about a Sora, and our Sora doesn't meet his expectations. That like 'why are you using Sora's name', means he was expecting a different kind of Sora. Given the apparently limited communication when he was simply told to 'save Sora', one option that makes sense, is that he was expecting a girl. Any other kind of appearance difference wouldn't warrant much of a reaction. Whoever told him to save Sora, must have mentioned that Sora was a girl.
@@potato-channana6043 It's about as solid as theorizing gets. Yozora's reaction said 'You can't be Sora, because the Sora I know is a ___'. Given how little he knows about KH Sora, he's basing that reaction off of his appearance, or possibly his keyblade if he can sense that. I doubt he'd react much to hair color, or his clothes, so it's most likely because he's a boy. It could also be his age. It could be that he knows a Sora, but since we already know his male companions names, that only leaves the girl. Process of elimination. But who knows, I doubt SE would gender flip Sora, that doesn't seem their style.
To me, it seems like theres someone else's heart that's taken over yozora body/character in the verum rex video game. When he "accidently wanders I here, passed some trials, and was told to save sora", it means he accidently ended up in yozoras body, and the video game made him pass trials, just like a game always does, and the point of that game is to "save sora". So he knows hes not in the realworld, hes in a video game. And the nameless star talks about his heart being replaced by another's. The star knows the REAL yozora shes in live with feom the game, has someone else's heart inside of him that's taken control for now.
My theory is a bit more convoluted than "He didnt recognize Sora because Sora was not girl" My theory is one I like to call "Soras True Nobody" theory. So, we know that at the time of KH1, when Sora released his heart, he had Ventus's heart inside him at that point. So, instead of just releasing two hearts (his and Kairis), he should have released three separate hearts. This would make THREE, not two, Nobodies. One for Kairi, one for Ventus, and one for Sora himself. Kairi is clearly Namine, Soras is Roxas, but where does that leave us with Ventus? Well, what if Roxas was Ventus' Nobody mistaken to be Soras? Well, whi else do we know that has Nobody symbols all over, a connection to Sora, and a black coat which covers an outfit resembling that or Soras? Yozora. Think about it. They battled on Soras heart platform, which only Roxas (believed to be Soras nobody), was able to do in the past. He has a black coat (as stated above), albeit different from the organization coat, but it's the symbolism I'm worried about The decoration of the Nobody symbol and the studded Sora on his sleeves. Their names are also very similar, which we see with the organization, but very differently. Instead of an X, we have a translation similarity. Night Sky (Bootleg Noctis), and Sky (Sora). Finally, we have their weapons. Sora is a sword (keyblade) and magic (ranged attack) user, and Yozora is is a sword (laser sword) and crossbow (ranged attack) user. This leads to the not recognizing scene, which I take as Yozora knows about Sora (Because of Luxord but that's a different beast), and thought he would look like Yozora himself. But when he didnt, Yozora would be confused. The person he came from looks nothing like him? I also think he's probably a special nobody with a strange power just like Namine because of Sora being revived immediately. But yeah, that's a theory I've been cooking up for a while Tldr; Yozora is Soras true nobody and Roxas is Ventus's nobody
I think it's a really interesting theory that Yozora is an alternate universe Rikku. That could be true. I'm not really sure what I think yet though. And that other girls name might be Sora. I like the connection you make about how Rikku is trying to save Sora so that does kind of make sense when you think about it that way.
Great video...somebody is definitely pulling Yozara strings. Let's not forget Yozara says that's not his true form. Luxord is now a major character in the series. He knows a lot about what's going on. Could Yozara also have used the Power of waking? I think someone is using Yozara to try and get rid of Sora.
The true form thing, gotta go back to the conversation with the nameless star. "Hes been changed beyond recognition, his heart replaced with another"... yozora's heart is inside the wrong body which is why he says "how do you recognize me as yozora"... only question is, who's body does his heart belong to??? Cant wait to find out. Edit: my thoughts on this is that his heart belongs inside the master of masters, far fetched, but both of them are able to be in shibouya as we've seen in the secret ending, for now it's the only thing that can make sense lol
I think is quite obvious now that he is a character based on FFVersusXIII's Noctis and his world: a) Shibuya was the city that inspired the original version of Insomnia. This scenario is created of the memories of Yozora(OG Noctis). b) The girl in the Verum Rex trailer has a star shaped necklace(Star = Stella). c) Both Noctis Caelum and Yozora mean "Night Sky". d) Yozora says "this isn't what i'm really look like" as a nod of him being a Noctis 2.0. d) Sora gets crystalized like in the FFXIII saga and Yozora gets hit by a blue light that makes him look exactly like Noctis. c) The scene in the car is a 1:1 copy of the last Versus XIII trailer in 2011. So, he is Noctis. Nomura's Noctis. He is being used as a secondary character to lauch Verum Rex into production. Nomura will make a new game based on the ideas of the original Versus XIII. HE IS JUST AN EASTER EGG TO PUT PRESION ON SQUARE.
Also, Verum Rex means "true king"...Riku is the TRUE king of the keyblade over Sora, he was chosen over Sora, so Yozora could be an alternate version of Riku
Well one thing is for certain. Square is definitely about to let Kingdom Hearts grow up a bit! I mean Yozora crystallized Sora in the bad ending... When that happened to Ven and Kairi that meant they were out for the count.
Yozora's other friends are not so subtle refs to Donald and Goofy, with Magia meaning Magic and Aegis meaning Shield. In the original FF Versus 13, Noctis's girl was named Stella (not Luna), and Stella means star. While Sora technically means sky, it's not like a huge leap to figure that the Verum Rex version of this girl is also named Sora, because unlike Stella(which is a girl's name), Sora is a gender neutral name that can be used for either boys or girls.
Great observation about the motivation to save Sora transferring over. It's quite reminiscent of how Sora retains some of the same motivations as Ven and Roxas when he contains their hearts. Another interesting detail that might connect this Yozora to Riku, is that he seems to understand how to consciously control the simulation/dream space he and Sora are in. This is kinda similar to how Sora fell for the dreams in DDD, but Riku never did. If both these Yozora and Sora are the main characters in their respective worlds, perhaps Yozora/Riku never fell for the dream the way Sora did. That there are two universes also fits with how Nameless Star said both she and her man had been changed beyond recognition, she to Sora and him to Yozora.
Maybe the "Sora" Yozora know's was the MoM. He was also in the same world as Sora, Yozora, and Riku. Before his fight with Sora he said he accidentally stumbled into the world they were in and was put through a trial. I think the MoM was the one that sent Yozora
Yozora is not an alternate version riku. Hes his own person. Also,he was given a mission to "save sora" if he ALREADY knew sora,he wouldnt need a mission to tell him about Sora. The nameless star is NOT sora.
Seriously the kh fan base is so flip flop and has no idea what they are talking about first everyone was for sure the star was stralitzia or Skuld some even thought it was Ava for whatever reason. Then it’s made apparent that it’s neither of them and then again the kh fan base thinks they have it all figured out when none of you realize everything that gets theorized in this community is almost never right and no one even thought it could be the girl from Verum Rex yet everyone has just jumped ship and gone onto the next theory but there are never facts or actual sense to any of these theories. Like MoM being demyx for example is one of the most retarded and deluded theories out there but because luxu turned out to be xigbar now everyone thinks MoM has to be someone in the organization but if you actually put things into perspective that doesn’t make sense at all. It’s cool to make theories to try and make sense of things but once you got your mind going and you start believing everything that’s when you have an issue and that’s what I see with most of these theories and it’s crazy the kingdom hearts community can’t be more aware of this
Podcast Now I understand that but I don’t think you and others in the comment section understand that concept. A theory isn’t just thinking “this makes sense and therefore should be regarded as facts”. There should be legit information to back up what is said and not having your theory built completely out of speculation. Just because something seems likely doesn’t always mean that’s how it is
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Two questions: 1. Why did the girl know about Heartless and Nobodies? Are they a threat in the Verum Rex world apart from the Gigas. 2. Why did the girl say that Yozora's is a different person now and his heart was replaced with another's? Who?
This is all very informative and interesting tying all these things together, including the comments, but, by any chance could the box play a role in anything to do with Yozora, our Sora, Yozora's Sora, Yozora's heart, Yozora's memories of his Sora, or anything that makes sense, or did I just confuse myself for a completely different subject of matter?
impossible 'he was told to save sora' , if she is his love then why he was told ? told by who ? he said that he accidentally went there then was told to save sora no one accidentally go somewhere and been told there to save his love ! and how he did not recognize female from a male ? -- 'he was told' either by the sleeping kairi or riku that somehow reach their world as the secret ending shows !a
No.... He wandered into that place by accident. Then he went through trials. Then he was told to "save Sora." He knows that our Sora isn't his Sora. That's why he says "you're Sora?" Because he was under the impression he's was going to be saving his Sora, not some other person named Sora. Now, that is possible if Kairi or Riku told him that.
@@PodcastNow no one wonder accesdintly to save someone if really wanted to save his "female sora" he wouldnt wonder accesdintly you dont just wonder around then Oops ive been told to save someone that i suppose i came here to save doesnt make sense
The nameless star did say he was changed beyond recognition, and had his heart replaced. It's possible he was told by a former version of himself in some kind of message. Kinda like Sora's journal telling him to 'thank Namine'. It seems like characters motivations can survive these strange KH transformations characters go through, especially if Riku's protection of Sora stems from the same hearts motivation.
@@mueatazmohammed730 You do realize that The Final World (the Place Yozora and Sora meet at) is a place where Sleep and Death meet right? Yozora could've accidentally wandered there through his DREAMS. Sora, went to the Final World by abusing the Power of Waking (which in turn, 'killed' him by erasing him).
Ok... Yozoras girl, the nameless star, recognizes yozora as a completely different looking person... she told sora that "his heart was replaced with another" And she's clearly talking about someone named yozora here because sora said "wait, that girl, she told me about you" and yozora tells sora "this isnt what I really look like". So yozoras heart is in the wrong body entirely. So what am I getting at here? I have a theory that the heart that originally belonged to this noctis/riku lookalike is actually Luxu's original body. Reason being is the crossbow similarity, xigbar/Luxu and this yozora characters are the only 2 in kingdom hearts to use a crossbow. So now that we know what Luxu's original body is, I think yozora is the first body/vessel he switched to. And this vessel/yozora's real body is who the nameless star is talking about and who she is picturing in her mind when talking about yozora. I just wonder what yozora actually looks like.
@@PodcastNow lol thanks, it's a nice theory I came up with, although if Luxu's original form actually looks exactly like riku it would be kinda weird, but we will have to wait and see why he looks like riku in the first place, who ever he is
Ok, 3:20 Slow down there... This is the one thing I really want you to slow down over. The reason everyone thought that Yozora was Sora was because, A. main character. But also because B. Number of companions and their abilities, those two guys are a lot like Donald and Goofy, so thinking that Yozora was a Sora/Riku Mix wouldn't be too far off. HOWEVER I will say that it could be that that world's version of Kairi also could be a Kairi/Sora mix, that their world where one person was split between the other two, making the 3 childhood friends only 2 childhood friends. But the idea that Yozora is a Sora/Riku mix is still heavily plausible at the very least, even though the entire thing about him telling Sora that the form he takes isn't what he actually looks like is there before they fought. The next time we see Yozora, he should have a new look, which likely means they will drop a new game where you play as Sora most of the mission and have a big reveal of Yozora's new look somewhere near the middle or end of Sora's journey before becoming crystallized. (just dropping how it is still likely that the "Good Ending" is a likely candidate for True Ending)
Because, he realized that the Sora he was told to save wasn't his own. Naturally, if you tell someone about someone but you pictures someone else and then realize you were picturing the wrong person, you still heard of that person.
@@PodcastNow He said he heard of Sora nowhere was it implied that the girls name was Sora and he wouldn't say I heard of you just because he had the same name as someone he knew that doesn't any sense fam
I think her name is stella? Do you remeber beta Luna from Final Fantasy XV? Yes, Stella! I mean Stella is FF Versus XIII stuff and she has e star necklace. Yozora doesn't come from Shibuya 104, he's from Lucis.. i mean this car scene is just a Yozora version of a Final Fantasy Versus XIII trailer ( with a little bit of luxord's somebody )? Stella is a pretty name too and that's all
Fun point: Wasnt Riku supposed to be the original protag of KH before they created sora? What if this is the version of KH where Riku was the protag instead of Sora.
Bro.. Idk if my theory is acceptable and coincides with your amazing theory but hear me out: this Yozora, is alternate world Riku. When Riku got control over his dark powers, his appearance became of that Xemnas from Kh1. So this Yozora probably took the power of "someone who can do the power waking" and maybe the price to pay is to be crystallized, preventing any power from Sora. So when nameless star told Sora about the guy is different, what I can see is another angle like what happened to Terranort. Terras body was taken over by old man Xehanort in BBS right? So maybe the MoM/Luxu/Luxord/Xigbar/Ava or some other character is using the real body of 'Yozora'. Because who else can do transferring of heart but keyblade weilders. So yeh, Yozora is alternate universe Riku, and the thing is, when Yozora woke up, the guy many assume(i also.assume) that is Luxord, maybe assisting Riku* in that alternate universe, just like Luxord giving something to.Sora. I dont see a problem.in diffrent endings because its Nomura. maybe both can be canon and maybe the next mainline installment you select character in the statrt but evfentually will converge paths. Thanks bro. you guys keep.it.up
I'm currently thinking that Noctis is Yozora, and Stella Nox is the Nameless Star girl. Which this then connects Nameless to Kairi, and Yozora to Sora. Based on their appearance, eyes, hair, names with the same meaning, etc. But he doesn't HAVE to not be Sora in order to look for Sora. He may be PART Sora, and have no clue. I think he's got an idea of what Sora is from word of mouth or something, but he doesnt truly get who Sora is. This is why he was "told" to save "save" Sora. from someone else giving him that specific command. He even says he was *told* by someone else. He wasn't given all the details
Yozora is dressed almost exactly like riku, with the chess motiv in the clothes, we see that he clunchs his fist, and the camera zooms to show us better the fist, that is a tipical riku gesture, that he almost always use where there is something about sora that it touches him, then in secret ending where riku is in a dream version of quadratum yozora looks right at him (while mom is the sora side), I think that the evidences all support this theory, that mostly don't consider it because they like to think that those two are alternate version of sora and Kairi, and they love each other anyplace anywhere anytime. I mean THEY says at least two times that yozora is almost identical to riku, THEY say it. Honestly, it would bother me if even another dimension Kairi was a damsel in distress, give some dignity to this character
Here's my theory: The person we see is not really Yozora but someone else who has inhabited his heart. That person has passed a few trials and told to "save sora" meaning to save Yozora's girlfriend. The person could potentially know Yozora or not we are not sure, but my guess he has some sort of connection with Yozora's girlfriend that's why he wants to save her.
Oh God into Riku Sora fanfiction and it's Cannon! It's like one of those bad pictures where they change the gender of the another boy character so it's not a yaoi but in a way it still is XD
You know there is an Avatar set in Union X mobile game, where they dress up as Sora, (for both genders). However the necklace is not his signature crown, but a STAR. Just like the necklace that girl Yozora tries to save in Verum Rex. Not to mention she is called the Nameless STAR as well.
I think when he says “save sora” he means to save as in keep or hold you know not like save in the sense on helping but in the sense on saving for later
Another theory to add in is what if this also connects with the world ends with you. Like what if yozora whenever he crystallized our sora by doing that he bet his life our sora’s live in order to save his sora from his universe in the reapers game. Cause in order to even be in the reapers game to revive a life you have to bet something close to you that being our sora. Idk sounds crazy but I thought to have Shibuya in the game it had to do something with the world ends with you and the reapers game
it was already said that this isnt the twewy shibuya, they use 104 in any fictional representation of shibuya because the actual 109 building is copywritten
“Do you know the name Sora mean the “sky”, in japanese and Noctis, his family name is Caelum which mean sky as well so basically, Noctis mean “night sky”, so they are kind of complete opposites to each other. There is a reason why I named these characters as opposites.” Nomura, 2013
I think I know what is going to happen in KH4. Its 5 stories. Kairi story will be pushing herself to far because her idea failed and blames herself for not being strong enough to take on xanort. King Mickey Donald and goofy story will be cutscenes with a few playable battles. Riku is doing his own thing. Riku is going come across an insane kairi whos having a mental breakdown and a fight will happen. Both will result into kairi falling into darkness because love is the only true balanced emotion which is both light and darkness together. Riku watched helplessly as kairi is taken into the dark realm. This will start the birth by sleep trio story. They have to face a darkness consumed Kairi which will be a very difficult fight. This is where yoroza shows up. By defeating dark kairi a portal opens up and Riku and yoroza switches worlds. The others go inside kairi’s heart and try to cleanse her of the darkness but she’s holding onto it because she punishing herself. The final battle will end with most of them being stuck defeat but kairi will hear sora’s voice and the battle will be Kairi vs Dark Kairi. Dark kairi will be an insane fight. Maybe 20 bars of health? The game ends revealing that our sora ended up in the female sora body. ( there is a reason why I believe dark kairi is extremely likely. That reason is love. That’s right Love. Love leads to happiness to enjoyment to fulfillment to peace but love can also lead to separation, sadness, desire, anger, hate, self loathing and revenge. The only true emotion that is neither good or bad but at the same time it is. Dark kairi is coming.
That's an interesting theory. Would that mean that the Final World is some sort of limbo for everyone? No matter what world/"dimension" you come from? Also you guys said that the nameless star is this other Sora. From what I remember doesn't the star share the name of who she's waiting for? During the Re:Mind secret stuff; our Sora doesn't mention anything about the nameless star to Yozora. He just says that he recognizes Yozora.
The nameless star whisper's to Sora who she's waiting for but we never hear who she says. The nameless star could still be Strelletzia from KHUX but I'm now thinking it's Yozora's Girl that we're talking about here. Her necklace is a Star as well
It could be MoM remember MoM told Young Xehanort his name but it was blanked out it could also be the girl cause she also doesn’t mention her name but I doubt it could be her.
I don't think the "Yazora is an alternate Riku because they look alike and both try to save someone named Sora" is solid enough to go on atm if they are parallel because they chase someone with the same name then would they not also have the same name? I think he's just someone from another world who's destiny is somehow tied to Sora (our Sora)
To clarify my point, say Yazora is an alternate Riku always trying to save Sora. That would mean that Sora B is an alternate version of Sora A so why would they have the same name but not Riku/Yazora
Here's the problem with this theory. Yozora isn't Yozora, Yozora's been replaced and the cutscene were Yozora goes to fight Sora is called Falsus Rex or False King the game Yozora is from is called Verum Rex which means True King. Yozora has lost all memory of her. Nameless Star says this.
Yozora is more surprised that he happened to run into Sora in the dream world aka "fake" world, he definitely heard of Sora from someone or something but didn't know exactly what he looked like? He never says you're not Sora...
i will be EXTREMELY surprised if yozora isn't in some way related to riku, be it through alternate universe or whatever. too much about him screams riku energy for it to all just be a coincidence
😮Oh my gawd..... It makes friggin sense. When Sora mentioned the girl telling him about Yozora I didn't get it..... But piecing it together; fawkin mind explosion
So... They're just going to make a full out Verum Rex game then and tie the lore to Kingdom Hearts? I'm not complaining, I'd play the hell out of that, it just looks like they're already world building for Verum Rex with the pieces that didn't make it into FFXV or FF Vs. XIII?
Well... I mean, if Yozora didn't know that he was Sora and met someone else named Sora, then it could make sense for him to be looking for a "Sora" while being the Sora we all know and love. Though I will admit there is more credence to him being Riku instead of Sora.
From what I'm understanding, Yozora needs to save his girl Sora. He winded up in the Final World and encounters OUR Sora. What doesn't make sense to me is why he's even fighting Sora in the first place. Okay, sure, he wants to crystalize Sora (to make sure he stays out of trouble?.... I guess.... Maybe to keep him in one spot so he'll remember where to go?..... He found his station of awakening location and now he pinpointed it permanently?....) and preserve his body until its time to go reclaim him. What I DON'T get is why he's fighting him in the first place. clearly Sora doesn't wanna fight. So why go through the trouble of beating him up like that? I'm pretty sure he could've just said he knows how to help Sora and asks that he trusts him and Sora would just be like "Okay, I believe you." I guess MAYBE they just wanted a reason to make an epic secret boss? Maybe he thinks the girl Sora's heart is trapped inside our Sora and he's holding her captive?.... Maybe he thinks our Sora is a imposter or antagonist that's playing games with him or something?...
Like present Sora and Yozora(The Future-Self Sora) says this:"I've been having these weird thoughts lately.Like, is any of this for real or not?None of this...makes sense to me." 'I mean is this vision real or not?!'
This theory could work as the name Sora is unisex or it could be a nickname/shortened. Also, I am curious as to why his world is advertised in Toy Story, could this mean it's like the Winnie the Pooh book I don't know. The Toy Story world is a copy of the real one so did the organisation add in the advertisement or was it already in there?
I just think her name is Hoshi meaning star in Japanese like how Stella meaning Star in Latin and of course with Yozora and Noctis name meaning Night Sky
Like the present Sora and Yozora(Verum Rex) says this:"I've been having these weird thoughts lately.Like, is any of this for real or not?None of this...makes sense to me."
I don't think her name is Sora. I'd say it's too far of a stretch. Also secret bosses have never been canon until now slightly. Therefore the difference in the endings is perspective. All in all, both endings are dreams. It's like the Leon fight in KH1 which doesn't change the outcome of the story. There's not exactly a true ending because it doesn't matter to the plot.
I had a theory that Yozora was Versus 13 noctis’s nobody and the Noctis we play in XV is the heartless (versus 13 noctis) , and something I found funny was Verum reX is basically XV backwards 🤣
But.. what if MOM's name is sora. He told young xehanort his name in the cutscene, and dont you need a version of yourself to travel? Riku is a version of xehanort and sora is a version of of MOM. Only those 4 end up in Shibuya
If yozora is an alternate version of riku why would he be looking for sora? Wouldn’t he be looking for alternate version of sora? Why would alternate riku’s name be different but not sora’s?
I think both the good and bad endings are both true. Plus in the good ending why would Nomura show back of the head Luxord driving yozora in the good ending? If no one notice that is luxord driving the car.
What if .. what if yozora it's not a Riku but a kairi ... In a world where the told are swap this one is a kairi looking for Sora and it would explain the powers since kairis abilities have something Todo with changing as in. She was able to change Sora from a heartless to a human just like yozora turn soranj to a crystal
I disagree b/c this doesnt explain Yozoras reason for existing. Remember in KH Union X the dandelions that survived the war looked alot like the companions with Yozora in the Verum Rex trailer. Where did those others guys go? Why is Yozora seemingly alone? How did he get that form? Now what I agree with, yozora IS trying to save the girl from the verum rex trailer. However I think he is trying to use Sora. I think Yozora is trapped there. Yes, he did 'wander' in there. But he froze Sora so he could "hijack" him and find his girl. Now how did Yozora get there in the first place? I think has to do with abusing the power of waking. Hear me out, WHY did we go through 6ish games of seeing the keyblade war and the X-blade, etc? Bc something was supposed to happen. Which MoM felt neccessary to have his keyblad be apart of. Same MoM that is also camping out in the prison Yozora is in. I think using KH allows for something different to happen if you abuse the power of waking and that's what the MoM wanted to see: WHO could do it, and then steal their body. Ik it's a stretch but its relevant to Yozora. Yozora attacks Sora after he realizes Sora has gotten himself trapped there too. Now why did they battle on top of Sora's dive to heart stage? Lose the fight, sora gets frozen 'in his dive to heart' and Yozora takes his power to use a keyblade. Win the fight, Yozora fades away on Soras dove to heart. But did he die, lose his form, or fade away? Moreover, the SAME thing happens whether you win or lose. That prison Yozora is in has to be related to the power to use Keyblades and the consequences of Keyblade powers such as the power of waking. Otherwise I see no point in Yozora attack Sora. Regardless of what or why or how, keyblades are needed and for all intents and purposes, we still dont know why
Last thing I want to point out is that phrase, reconnect kingdom hearts. What if that prison world is a world abandoned by kingdom hearts? Reconnecting it, will restore it to the light. Maybe the MoM did something to the world to cause a phenomenon once it came back or was reconnecting. But you cant do it without a vessel that can abuse the power of waking? Maybe the black box is the secret ingredient to capture a world of create a special one My point is that Sora needed to disappear and needed to disappear INTO that prisom world Yozora is trapped in. Making Yozoras reason to be there much much more related to keyblade powers and KH moreso than his mission TL:DR. Everybody getting used by the MoM
This theory could easily be debunked by saying that some other character said their name was sora. Probably the master of masters if that's the correct theory You should also make a video on who yozoras heart originally belonged to, if you dont know what I'm talking about, go back to the conversation sora had with the nameless star. "His heart replaced with another"
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She's the Nameless Star. She whispered to Sora something. Now in this scene, Sora says 'that Girl, she told me about you"
Yozora's girl has lost her body, her Heart is in the Final World. Yozora is trying to save that girl. He is told to "save Sora." He wanders into the Final World, runs into Sora. He's realized he wasn't told to save his own Sora, but a different Sora. Therefore, the Nameless Star is named Sora and is Yozora's girl.
You'll see.
Christian Longo but if you played KH3 did you see if Sora talked with a other Girl in the game not named Kairi, Namine, Aqua? By process of elimination the nameless star can only be Streletzia or this other Sora because our Sora says this girl told me about you just think about it
Christian Longo we don‘t know it yet because of this is called theory not facts
@Christian Longo "why would yozora tell the actual sora “i’ve heard of you” if that was his girls name he wouldn’t of said that." Because he made a wrong assumption. He was told to "save Sora," thinking that it was referring to the Sora he knows. He meets the Sora he's supposed to save, and sees that it's not the same person. He says "I've heard of you" after he realizes that it's a different person.
@Christian Longo "He wouldn’t say I’ve heard of you then because it’s not like he knew there are alternative versions of characters."
Who says they are alternate versions of each other? They could just have the same name. And him saying that he heard of Sora is the logical thing to say upon realizing that the person he's supposed to save is a complete stranger.
"Plus he wouldn’t of attacked him."
We have no idea what "saving" Sora means, nor do we know how he plans to go about this. We can't assume what actions he will take since we don't have enough information to go off of.
"Yes he may of been trying to save somebody else but the verum rex character aka Stella is not named sora"
I honestly do not see how this is relevent. Verum Rex might have taken some concepts from FFV13, but we have no reason to believe that Stella and this other female character are the same people. They don't even look alike. We have no reason to believe that they have the same name.
For those saying, Yozora said "I've heard of you" so she can't be named Sora...
Yozora realized that the Sora he was told to save wasn't his own. That's why he says "why are you using that name?"
Thats the part that confuses me I don't get what he is even talking about.
I think the master of masters spoke to him in manipulative way
Ok... Yozoras girl, the nameless star, recognizes yozora as a completely different looking person... she told sora that "his heart was replaced with another"
And she's clearly talking about someone named yozora here because sora said "wait, that girl, she told me about you" and yozora tells sora "this isnt what I really look like". So yozoras heart is in the wrong body entirely. So what am I getting at here? I have a theory that the heart that originally belonged to this noctis/riku lookalike is actually Luxu's original body. Reason being is the crossbow similarity, xigbar/Luxu and this yozora characters are the only 2 in kingdom hearts to use a crossbow.
So now that we know what Luxu's original body is, I think yozora is the first body/vessel he switched to. And this vessel/yozora's real body is who the nameless star is talking about and who she is picturing in her mind when talking about yozora. I just wonder what yozora actually looks like. This is all just a theory so it could be wrong
@@Z-A-C ohhhhhh hell no bro that is a great theory. Never ever doubt yourself. Your a great KH fanatic like myself and I stand behind you on that. All I'm saying is it's an alternate universe and the nameless star is the female sora. Nomura even gave us the clue when she said "they took my name" that's when I knew she's an alternative sora. But that was definitely an amazing theory. Fucking crossbow gun was in front of me and I didn't realize it. Not to mention Luxord was the uber driver in the good ending. So my question is who the hell is really Luxord??
@@glennjackson8302 I cant wait to see if all these theories come true or not. But I am completely dead set on that yozora theory in that luxu swapped bodies with him. And the nameless star, I'm not gonna call her sora, for me theres just not enough evidence to conclude that's her name, theres a lot of ways to debunk that theory but its completely possible. Luxord is a very interesting character, one that I feel like has a connection to brain with the whole "gambler of fate" thing. And I'm pretty sure he knows alot about yozora
But he also says "sora I've heard of you" like he actually does not know who sora is
Because, he realized that the Sora he was told to save wasn't his own. Naturally, if you tell someone about someone but you pictures someone else and then realize you were picturing the wrong person, you still heard of that person.
Who said Yozora is Riku? Not me. I said Yozora is Riku from an Alternate Universe. Completely different. And no, in the Limit Cut scene before this Yozora/Sora one, Riku talks about a dream he had and it was the Secret Ending from KH3. So Riku wasn't fully there but in his dreams.
@Oodama Chisengan yes.... This is kingdom hearts, they added time travel and alternate worldlines,not that far fetched for this series
Podcast Now I think Kairi will dream drop too, she’s also key, the game pretty much tells you that Riku, Kairi and a mystery third person (most likely Yozora) are key. It’s also interesting that Kairi has been voluntarily asleep for a year just like Sora at the end of COM. Nomura loves his parallels:)
@@PodcastNow but you forgot to mention that Yozora specifically said that he was tasked with saving Sora. And he acted surprised when he met sora,not because he looked different,but because his target/objective just appeared out of nowhere in front of him. I'm pretty sure MOM or whoever gave him the trials is the one who told him the name sora.
I disagree.
The Nameless Star says that Yozora’s heart has been replaced with another’s and therefore doesn’t remember her, which includes her name. This is supported by Yozora saying that his current form isn’t what he really looks like, him questioning Sora how he recognizes him “as Yozora”, his lack of reaction to Sora’s mention of the Nameless Star, and the title of the cutscene where Sora and Yozora meet, “Falsus Rex (False King)”.
If Yozora were to have a counterpart in another world, it wouldn’t be Riku even though they appear similarly. Sora would be that counterpart because they are both the protagonists of their story and their name correlates to each other (Sky/Night sky). Above the correlation to Sora and Riku, however, is Noctis from FFVXIII/XV.
This makes the most sense so far
Potato-chan Nana so you’re saying it’s master of masters disguised as yozora
There's no proof that she is the reason he's reacting to Sora's name with surprise, but that he does react shows he knows something about a Sora, and our Sora doesn't meet his expectations. That like 'why are you using Sora's name', means he was expecting a different kind of Sora. Given the apparently limited communication when he was simply told to 'save Sora', one option that makes sense, is that he was expecting a girl. Any other kind of appearance difference wouldn't warrant much of a reaction. Whoever told him to save Sora, must have mentioned that Sora was a girl.
Paget Vido But there’s also no proof that Yozora was expecting Sora to be a girl.
@@potato-channana6043 It's about as solid as theorizing gets. Yozora's reaction said 'You can't be Sora, because the Sora I know is a ___'. Given how little he knows about KH Sora, he's basing that reaction off of his appearance, or possibly his keyblade if he can sense that. I doubt he'd react much to hair color, or his clothes, so it's most likely because he's a boy. It could also be his age. It could be that he knows a Sora, but since we already know his male companions names, that only leaves the girl. Process of elimination.
But who knows, I doubt SE would gender flip Sora, that doesn't seem their style.
So is Yozora’s two friends supposed to his “goofy” and “Donald”? Because one has green and the other blue similar
Ohhhhh this is right. Yozora is saving sora while Riku is tryna save sora of his universe. Parallel universe
To me, it seems like theres someone else's heart that's taken over yozora body/character in the verum rex video game. When he "accidently wanders I here, passed some trials, and was told to save sora", it means he accidently ended up in yozoras body, and the video game made him pass trials, just like a game always does, and the point of that game is to "save sora". So he knows hes not in the realworld, hes in a video game. And the nameless star talks about his heart being replaced by another's. The star knows the REAL yozora shes in live with feom the game, has someone else's heart inside of him that's taken control for now.
My theory is a bit more convoluted than "He didnt recognize Sora because Sora was not girl"
My theory is one I like to call "Soras True Nobody" theory.
So, we know that at the time of KH1, when Sora released his heart, he had Ventus's heart inside him at that point. So, instead of just releasing two hearts (his and Kairis), he should have released three separate hearts. This would make THREE, not two, Nobodies. One for Kairi, one for Ventus, and one for Sora himself. Kairi is clearly Namine, Soras is Roxas, but where does that leave us with Ventus? Well, what if Roxas was Ventus' Nobody mistaken to be Soras? Well, whi else do we know that has Nobody symbols all over, a connection to Sora, and a black coat which covers an outfit resembling that or Soras? Yozora.
Think about it.
They battled on Soras heart platform, which only Roxas (believed to be Soras nobody), was able to do in the past.
He has a black coat (as stated above), albeit different from the organization coat, but it's the symbolism I'm worried about
The decoration of the Nobody symbol and the studded Sora on his sleeves.
Their names are also very similar, which we see with the organization, but very differently. Instead of an X, we have a translation similarity. Night Sky (Bootleg Noctis), and Sky (Sora).
Finally, we have their weapons. Sora is a sword (keyblade) and magic (ranged attack) user, and Yozora is is a sword (laser sword) and crossbow (ranged attack) user.
This leads to the not recognizing scene, which I take as Yozora knows about Sora (Because of Luxord but that's a different beast), and thought he would look like Yozora himself. But when he didnt, Yozora would be confused. The person he came from looks nothing like him?
I also think he's probably a special nobody with a strange power just like Namine because of Sora being revived immediately.
But yeah, that's a theory I've been cooking up for a while
Tldr; Yozora is Soras true nobody and Roxas is Ventus's nobody
Yes I was thinking the same thing. Yozora seemed like he was saying “I will save you” to someone else other than the Sora we know.
I think it's a really interesting theory that Yozora is an alternate universe Rikku. That could be true. I'm not really sure what I think yet though. And that other girls name might be Sora. I like the connection you make about how Rikku is trying to save Sora so that does kind of make sense when you think about it that way.
Great video...somebody is definitely pulling Yozara strings. Let's not forget Yozara says that's not his true form. Luxord is now a major character in the series. He knows a lot about what's going on. Could Yozara also have used the Power of waking? I think someone is using Yozara to try and get rid of Sora.
It's obviously the MOM as we've seen he's in yozoras world
The true form thing, gotta go back to the conversation with the nameless star. "Hes been changed beyond recognition, his heart replaced with another"... yozora's heart is inside the wrong body which is why he says "how do you recognize me as yozora"... only question is, who's body does his heart belong to??? Cant wait to find out.
Edit: my thoughts on this is that his heart belongs inside the master of masters, far fetched, but both of them are able to be in shibouya as we've seen in the secret ending, for now it's the only thing that can make sense lol
I think is quite obvious now that he is a character based on FFVersusXIII's Noctis and his world:
a) Shibuya was the city that inspired the original version of Insomnia. This scenario is created of the memories of Yozora(OG Noctis).
b) The girl in the Verum Rex trailer has a star shaped necklace(Star = Stella).
c) Both Noctis Caelum and Yozora mean "Night Sky".
d) Yozora says "this isn't what i'm really look like" as a nod of him being a Noctis 2.0.
d) Sora gets crystalized like in the FFXIII saga and Yozora gets hit by a blue light that makes him look exactly like Noctis.
c) The scene in the car is a 1:1 copy of the last Versus XIII trailer in 2011.
So, he is Noctis. Nomura's Noctis. He is being used as a secondary character to lauch Verum Rex into production.
Nomura will make a new game based on the ideas of the original Versus XIII.
HE IS JUST AN EASTER EGG TO PUT PRESION ON SQUARE.
Also, Verum Rex means "true king"...Riku is the TRUE king of the keyblade over Sora, he was chosen over Sora, so Yozora could be an alternate version of Riku
We literally had a video on this a month ago lol
Well one thing is for certain. Square is definitely about to let Kingdom Hearts grow up a bit! I mean Yozora crystallized Sora in the bad ending... When that happened to Ven and Kairi that meant they were out for the count.
Yozora's other friends are not so subtle refs to Donald and Goofy, with Magia meaning Magic and Aegis meaning Shield. In the original FF Versus 13, Noctis's girl was named Stella (not Luna), and Stella means star. While Sora technically means sky, it's not like a huge leap to figure that the Verum Rex version of this girl is also named Sora, because unlike Stella(which is a girl's name), Sora is a gender neutral name that can be used for either boys or girls.
Well, they weren't shown here so maybe they're not in his real world. Maybe they're only in Verum Rex
So somehow in some way, Nomura sneakily adds the Sora X Riku ship but in a different way, what a clever little sneak
I was thinking that the girls name was Sora ever since I saw the secret ending
This is exactly the same shit that I said to other youtube channels but they didnt believe me. Thanks guys this is all the proof I need.
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Great observation about the motivation to save Sora transferring over. It's quite reminiscent of how Sora retains some of the same motivations as Ven and Roxas when he contains their hearts.
Another interesting detail that might connect this Yozora to Riku, is that he seems to understand how to consciously control the simulation/dream space he and Sora are in. This is kinda similar to how Sora fell for the dreams in DDD, but Riku never did. If both these Yozora and Sora are the main characters in their respective worlds, perhaps Yozora/Riku never fell for the dream the way Sora did.
That there are two universes also fits with how Nameless Star said both she and her man had been changed beyond recognition, she to Sora and him to Yozora.
Ddd 2 but with Riku and kairi 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
We're talking about that in tomorrow's video
Thatd be great since kairis already asleep
kairi will be awake some point in melody of memories
Maybe the "Sora" Yozora know's was the MoM. He was also in the same world as Sora, Yozora, and Riku. Before his fight with Sora he said he accidentally stumbled into the world they were in and was put through a trial. I think the MoM was the one that sent Yozora
Yozora is not an alternate version riku. Hes his own person. Also,he was given a mission to "save sora" if he ALREADY knew sora,he wouldnt need a mission to tell him about Sora. The nameless star is NOT sora.
The girl in vermen Rex does indeed look like a female sora.
Very much so
Seriously the kh fan base is so flip flop and has no idea what they are talking about first everyone was for sure the star was stralitzia or Skuld some even thought it was Ava for whatever reason. Then it’s made apparent that it’s neither of them and then again the kh fan base thinks they have it all figured out when none of you realize everything that gets theorized in this community is almost never right and no one even thought it could be the girl from Verum Rex yet everyone has just jumped ship and gone onto the next theory but there are never facts or actual sense to any of these theories. Like MoM being demyx for example is one of the most retarded and deluded theories out there but because luxu turned out to be xigbar now everyone thinks MoM has to be someone in the organization but if you actually put things into perspective that doesn’t make sense at all. It’s cool to make theories to try and make sense of things but once you got your mind going and you start believing everything that’s when you have an issue and that’s what I see with most of these theories and it’s crazy the kingdom hearts community can’t be more aware of this
It's just a Theory man...
Podcast Now I understand that but I don’t think you and others in the comment section understand that concept. A theory isn’t just thinking “this makes sense and therefore should be regarded as facts”. There should be legit information to back up what is said and not having your theory built completely out of speculation. Just because something seems likely doesn’t always mean that’s how it is
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Nice video Keep these theories coming 💯
Two questions:
1. Why did the girl know about Heartless and Nobodies? Are they a threat in the Verum Rex world apart from the Gigas.
2. Why did the girl say that Yozora's is a different person now and his heart was replaced with another's? Who?
All good questions
Keyblades clearly exist in Verum Rex, so there's a possibility that Heartless and Nobodies do, too.
This is all very informative and interesting tying all these things together, including the comments, but, by any chance could the box play a role in anything to do with Yozora, our Sora, Yozora's Sora, Yozora's heart, Yozora's memories of his Sora, or anything that makes sense, or did I just confuse myself for a completely different subject of matter?
impossible
'he was told to save sora' , if she is his love
then why he was told ? told by who ?
he said that he accidentally went there then was told to save sora
no one accidentally go somewhere and been told there to save his love !
and how he did not recognize female from a male ?
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'he was told' either by the sleeping kairi or riku that somehow reach their world as the secret ending shows !a
No....
He wandered into that place by accident. Then he went through trials. Then he was told to "save Sora."
He knows that our Sora isn't his Sora. That's why he says "you're Sora?" Because he was under the impression he's was going to be saving his Sora, not some other person named Sora.
Now, that is possible if Kairi or Riku told him that.
@@PodcastNow no one wonder accesdintly to save someone
if really wanted to save his "female sora" he wouldnt wonder accesdintly
you dont just wonder around then Oops ive been told to save someone that i suppose i came here to save
doesnt make sense
Mueataz Mohammed welcome to kingdom hearts
The nameless star did say he was changed beyond recognition, and had his heart replaced. It's possible he was told by a former version of himself in some kind of message. Kinda like Sora's journal telling him to 'thank Namine'. It seems like characters motivations can survive these strange KH transformations characters go through, especially if Riku's protection of Sora stems from the same hearts motivation.
@@mueatazmohammed730 You do realize that The Final World (the Place Yozora and Sora meet at) is a place where Sleep and Death meet right? Yozora could've accidentally wandered there through his DREAMS. Sora, went to the Final World by abusing the Power of Waking (which in turn, 'killed' him by erasing him).
Ok... Yozoras girl, the nameless star, recognizes yozora as a completely different looking person... she told sora that "his heart was replaced with another"
And she's clearly talking about someone named yozora here because sora said "wait, that girl, she told me about you" and yozora tells sora "this isnt what I really look like". So yozoras heart is in the wrong body entirely. So what am I getting at here? I have a theory that the heart that originally belonged to this noctis/riku lookalike is actually Luxu's original body. Reason being is the crossbow similarity, xigbar/Luxu and this yozora characters are the only 2 in kingdom hearts to use a crossbow.
So now that we know what Luxu's original body is, I think yozora is the first body/vessel he switched to. And this vessel/yozora's real body is who the nameless star is talking about and who she is picturing in her mind when talking about yozora. I just wonder what yozora actually looks like.
I love you.
@@PodcastNow lol thanks, it's a nice theory I came up with, although if Luxu's original form actually looks exactly like riku it would be kinda weird, but we will have to wait and see why he looks like riku in the first place, who ever he is
Maybe there another version of sora somewhere from yozora that somehow passed away in his world and yozora is trying to save that sora instead
Ok, 3:20 Slow down there... This is the one thing I really want you to slow down over. The reason everyone thought that Yozora was Sora was because, A. main character. But also because B. Number of companions and their abilities, those two guys are a lot like Donald and Goofy, so thinking that Yozora was a Sora/Riku Mix wouldn't be too far off. HOWEVER I will say that it could be that that world's version of Kairi also could be a Kairi/Sora mix, that their world where one person was split between the other two, making the 3 childhood friends only 2 childhood friends. But the idea that Yozora is a Sora/Riku mix is still heavily plausible at the very least, even though the entire thing about him telling Sora that the form he takes isn't what he actually looks like is there before they fought. The next time we see Yozora, he should have a new look, which likely means they will drop a new game where you play as Sora most of the mission and have a big reveal of Yozora's new look somewhere near the middle or end of Sora's journey before becoming crystallized. (just dropping how it is still likely that the "Good Ending" is a likely candidate for True Ending)
Does everyone else understand why this theory doesn't make sense 🤦🏾♂️
@Christian Longo Yup
Because, he realized that the Sora he was told to save wasn't his own. Naturally, if you tell someone about someone but you pictures someone else and then realize you were picturing the wrong person, you still heard of that person.
Nope
@@PodcastNow He said he heard of Sora nowhere was it implied that the girls name was Sora and he wouldn't say I heard of you just because he had the same name as someone he knew that doesn't any sense fam
@Christian Longo 😂
I think her name is stella?
Do you remeber beta Luna from Final Fantasy XV? Yes, Stella! I mean Stella is FF Versus XIII stuff and she has e star necklace.
Yozora doesn't come from Shibuya 104, he's from Lucis.. i mean this car scene is just a Yozora version of a Final Fantasy Versus XIII trailer ( with a little bit of luxord's somebody )?
Stella is a pretty name too and that's all
Fun point: Wasnt Riku supposed to be the original protag of KH before they created sora? What if this is the version of KH where Riku was the protag instead of Sora.
Bro.. Idk if my theory is acceptable and coincides with your amazing theory but hear me out:
this Yozora, is alternate world Riku.
When Riku got control over his dark powers, his appearance became of that Xemnas from Kh1.
So this Yozora probably took the power of "someone who can do the power waking" and maybe the price to pay is to be crystallized, preventing any power from Sora.
So when nameless star told Sora about the guy is different, what I can see is another angle like what happened to Terranort. Terras body was taken over by old man Xehanort in BBS right? So maybe the MoM/Luxu/Luxord/Xigbar/Ava or some other character is using the real body of 'Yozora'. Because who else can do transferring of heart but keyblade weilders.
So yeh, Yozora is alternate universe Riku, and the thing is, when Yozora woke up, the guy many assume(i also.assume) that is Luxord, maybe assisting Riku* in that alternate universe, just like Luxord giving something to.Sora.
I dont see a problem.in diffrent endings because its Nomura. maybe both can be canon and maybe the next mainline installment you select character in the statrt but evfentually will converge paths. Thanks bro. you guys keep.it.up
Oh my godz XD lol
He's heard of Boy Sora but he got mad when he realizes that him and Girl Sora have the same name
I'm currently thinking that Noctis is Yozora, and Stella Nox is the Nameless Star girl. Which this then connects Nameless to Kairi, and Yozora to Sora. Based on their appearance, eyes, hair, names with the same meaning, etc. But he doesn't HAVE to not be Sora in order to look for Sora. He may be PART Sora, and have no clue. I think he's got an idea of what Sora is from word of mouth or something, but he doesnt truly get who Sora is. This is why he was "told" to save "save" Sora. from someone else giving him that specific command. He even says he was *told* by someone else. He wasn't given all the details
when nomura tries to appreal to the riku x sora ship fanbase.
this the best he can do for them.
Also one day I'm gonna come back to this video and count how many times the name 'sora' or 'yozora' was used 🤣🤣🤣
Please do
@@PodcastNow ohhh hell yes xD
When I have time today then
What an impressive theory 👍
Yozora is dressed almost exactly like riku, with the chess motiv in the clothes, we see that he clunchs his fist, and the camera zooms to show us better the fist, that is a tipical riku gesture, that he almost always use where there is something about sora that it touches him, then in secret ending where riku is in a dream version of quadratum yozora looks right at him (while mom is the sora side), I think that the evidences all support this theory, that mostly don't consider it because they like to think that those two are alternate version of sora and Kairi, and they love each other anyplace anywhere anytime. I mean THEY says at least two times that yozora is almost identical to riku, THEY say it. Honestly, it would bother me if even another dimension Kairi was a damsel in distress, give some dignity to this character
Here's my theory:
The person we see is not really Yozora but someone else who has inhabited his heart. That person has passed a few trials and told to "save sora" meaning to save Yozora's girlfriend. The person could potentially know Yozora or not we are not sure, but my guess he has some sort of connection with Yozora's girlfriend that's why he wants to save her.
Oh God into Riku Sora fanfiction and it's Cannon!
It's like one of those bad pictures where they change the gender of the another boy character so it's not a yaoi but in a way it still is XD
No her name is *DORA*
She should have a monkey summon that has a shoe fetish...;)
Your theories are fire 🔥
You know there is an Avatar set in Union X mobile game, where they dress up as Sora, (for both genders). However the necklace is not his signature crown, but a STAR. Just like the necklace that girl Yozora tries to save in Verum Rex. Not to mention she is called the Nameless STAR as well.
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I was asleep when this was uploaded, great theory though
This is great and interesting nice one
I think when he says “save sora” he means to save as in keep or hold you know not like save in the sense on helping but in the sense on saving for later
japenese tranlation literally says rescue instead of save so no.
save sora
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!
So you mean to tell me that Riku x Sora is actually a thing?
No?
Another theory to add in is what if this also connects with the world ends with you. Like what if yozora whenever he crystallized our sora by doing that he bet his life our sora’s live in order to save his sora from his universe in the reapers game. Cause in order to even be in the reapers game to revive a life you have to bet something close to you that being our sora. Idk sounds crazy but I thought to have Shibuya in the game it had to do something with the world ends with you and the reapers game
it was already said that this isnt the twewy shibuya, they use 104 in any fictional representation of shibuya because the actual 109 building is copywritten
BrixieGunMage where was it stated that it wasn’t?
BrixieGunMage because twewy has already crossed paths with kingdom hearts before why not again?
@@vanessamowers3381 Nomura himself i believe said that in an interview.
BrixieGunMage guess we are just gonna have to find out in the next upcoming title :)
“Do you know the name Sora mean the “sky”, in japanese and Noctis, his family name is Caelum which mean sky as well so basically, Noctis mean “night sky”, so they are kind of complete opposites to each other. There is a reason why I named these characters as opposites.”
Nomura, 2013
I think I know what is going to happen in KH4. Its 5 stories.
Kairi story will be pushing herself to far because her idea failed and blames herself for not being strong enough to take on xanort.
King Mickey Donald and goofy story will be cutscenes with a few playable battles.
Riku is doing his own thing. Riku is going come across an insane kairi whos having a mental breakdown and a fight will happen. Both will result into kairi falling into darkness because love is the only true balanced emotion which is both light and darkness together. Riku watched helplessly as kairi is taken into the dark realm.
This will start the birth by sleep trio story.
They have to face a darkness consumed Kairi which will be a very difficult fight. This is where yoroza shows up. By defeating dark kairi a portal opens up and Riku and yoroza switches worlds.
The others go inside kairi’s heart and try to cleanse her of the darkness but she’s holding onto it because she punishing herself. The final battle will end with most of them being stuck defeat but kairi will hear sora’s voice and the battle will be Kairi vs Dark Kairi.
Dark kairi will be an insane fight. Maybe 20 bars of health? The game ends revealing that our sora ended up in the female sora body.
( there is a reason why I believe dark kairi is extremely likely. That reason is love. That’s right Love.
Love leads to happiness to enjoyment to fulfillment to peace but love can also lead to separation, sadness, desire, anger, hate, self loathing and revenge. The only true emotion that is neither good or bad but at the same time it is. Dark kairi is coming.
Not only that but he knew the name that the girl mention just as sora mentions he is real once encountered
That's an interesting theory. Would that mean that the Final World is some sort of limbo for everyone? No matter what world/"dimension" you come from?
Also you guys said that the nameless star is this other Sora. From what I remember doesn't the star share the name of who she's waiting for? During the Re:Mind secret stuff; our Sora doesn't mention anything about the nameless star to Yozora. He just says that he recognizes Yozora.
The nameless star whisper's to Sora who she's waiting for but we never hear who she says.
The nameless star could still be Strelletzia from KHUX but I'm now thinking it's Yozora's Girl that we're talking about here. Her necklace is a Star as well
I picked up up instantly when Yozora says why he using Sora name
It could be MoM remember MoM told Young Xehanort his name but it was blanked out it could also be the girl cause she also doesn’t mention her name but I doubt it could be her.
I don't think the "Yazora is an alternate Riku because they look alike and both try to save someone named Sora" is solid enough to go on atm if they are parallel because they chase someone with the same name then would they not also have the same name? I think he's just someone from another world who's destiny is somehow tied to Sora (our Sora)
To clarify my point, say Yazora is an alternate Riku always trying to save Sora. That would mean that Sora B is an alternate version of Sora A so why would they have the same name but not Riku/Yazora
What if the nameless stars heart resides inside soras heart and in order for yozora to save her he needs to unlock her heart by defeating sora
Noctis could sense expiring souls
Sora dies from power of waking
NOTNoctis senses his soul
The end
Here's the problem with this theory.
Yozora isn't Yozora, Yozora's been replaced and the cutscene were Yozora goes to fight Sora is called Falsus Rex or False King the game Yozora is from is called Verum Rex which means True King. Yozora has lost all memory of her. Nameless Star says this.
Yozora is more surprised that he happened to run into Sora in the dream world aka "fake" world, he definitely heard of Sora from someone or something but didn't know exactly what he looked like? He never says you're not Sora...
i will be EXTREMELY surprised if yozora isn't in some way related to riku, be it through alternate universe or whatever. too much about him screams riku energy for it to all just be a coincidence
😮Oh my gawd..... It makes friggin sense. When Sora mentioned the girl telling him about Yozora I didn't get it..... But piecing it together; fawkin mind explosion
So... They're just going to make a full out Verum Rex game then and tie the lore to Kingdom Hearts? I'm not complaining, I'd play the hell out of that, it just looks like they're already world building for Verum Rex with the pieces that didn't make it into FFXV or FF Vs. XIII?
Well... I mean, if Yozora didn't know that he was Sora and met someone else named Sora, then it could make sense for him to be looking for a "Sora" while being the Sora we all know and love. Though I will admit there is more credence to him being Riku instead of Sora.
From what I'm understanding, Yozora needs to save his girl Sora. He winded up in the Final World and encounters OUR Sora. What doesn't make sense to me is why he's even fighting Sora in the first place. Okay, sure, he wants to crystalize Sora (to make sure he stays out of trouble?.... I guess.... Maybe to keep him in one spot so he'll remember where to go?..... He found his station of awakening location and now he pinpointed it permanently?....) and preserve his body until its time to go reclaim him.
What I DON'T get is why he's fighting him in the first place. clearly Sora doesn't wanna fight. So why go through the trouble of beating him up like that? I'm pretty sure he could've just said he knows how to help Sora and asks that he trusts him and Sora would just be like "Okay, I believe you." I guess MAYBE they just wanted a reason to make an epic secret boss? Maybe he thinks the girl Sora's heart is trapped inside our Sora and he's holding her captive?.... Maybe he thinks our Sora is a imposter or antagonist that's playing games with him or something?...
Like present Sora and Yozora(The Future-Self Sora) says this:"I've been having these weird thoughts lately.Like, is any of this for real or not?None of this...makes sense to me."
'I mean is this vision real or not?!'
This theory could work as the name Sora is unisex or it could be a nickname/shortened. Also, I am curious as to why his world is advertised in Toy Story, could this mean it's like the Winnie the Pooh book I don't know. The Toy Story world is a copy of the real one so did the organisation add in the advertisement or was it already in there?
I just think her name is Hoshi meaning star in Japanese like how Stella meaning Star in Latin and of course with Yozora and Noctis name meaning Night Sky
Like the present Sora and Yozora(Verum Rex) says this:"I've been having these weird thoughts lately.Like, is any of this for real or not?None of this...makes sense to me."
Maybe kairi is the actual Sora of yozoras word and this is the reason why they have this connection.
Idk why people think this is confusing. To me it feels very Drakenguard/Neir-esque. Multiple worlds connecting games. Its super exciting
I don't think her name is Sora. I'd say it's too far of a stretch. Also secret bosses have never been canon until now slightly. Therefore the difference in the endings is perspective. All in all, both endings are dreams. It's like the Leon fight in KH1 which doesn't change the outcome of the story. There's not exactly a true ending because it doesn't matter to the plot.
I think it's an alternate of KH1, but instead of Sora looking for Riku and Kairi, it's the other way around. Yozora looking for Sora and Starlezia
So does this mean the KH series will be rebooted? I hope this is not the direction they are going in.
I had a theory that Yozora was Versus 13 noctis’s nobody and the Noctis we play in XV is the heartless (versus 13 noctis) , and something I found funny was Verum reX is basically XV backwards 🤣
But.. what if MOM's name is sora.
He told young xehanort his name in the cutscene, and dont you need a version of yourself to travel? Riku is a version of xehanort and sora is a version of of MOM. Only those 4 end up in Shibuya
If yozora is an alternate version of riku why would he be looking for sora? Wouldn’t he be looking for alternate version of sora? Why would alternate riku’s name be different but not sora’s?
Yozora's sidekicks represent Donald and Goofy. Their names are Magia and Aegis, which means Magic and Shield in Latin
Love this comment!
Kairi might met yozora in dream and ask him to save sora
I think the nameless star is Ava since you know she missing in all haha
OH SHIT I get what you’re saying. So Yozora’s world is a alternate universe. Sora’s alternate is a women and Riku’s alternate is yozora
Finally got the nerve to do it.
Oksy so in total, you said "Sora" AND "Yozora" BOTH in total: 77 Times. Congratulations 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think both the good and bad endings are both true. Plus in the good ending why would Nomura show back of the head Luxord driving yozora in the good ending? If no one notice that is luxord driving the car.
I think luxord is the master of master.
"I think it all makes sense"
I'll laugh my ass off if this gets confirmed. it adds a whole new cynical reason as to why the keyblade wasn't originally meant for sora.
What if .. what if yozora it's not a Riku but a kairi ... In a world where the told are swap this one is a kairi looking for Sora and it would explain the powers since kairis abilities have something Todo with changing as in. She was able to change Sora from a heartless to a human just like yozora turn soranj to a crystal
I disagree b/c this doesnt explain Yozoras reason for existing.
Remember in KH Union X the dandelions that survived the war looked alot like the companions with Yozora in the Verum Rex trailer. Where did those others guys go? Why is Yozora seemingly alone? How did he get that form?
Now what I agree with, yozora IS trying to save the girl from the verum rex trailer. However I think he is trying to use Sora.
I think Yozora is trapped there. Yes, he did 'wander' in there. But he froze Sora so he could "hijack" him and find his girl.
Now how did Yozora get there in the first place? I think has to do with abusing the power of waking.
Hear me out,
WHY did we go through 6ish games of seeing the keyblade war and the X-blade, etc? Bc something was supposed to happen. Which MoM felt neccessary to have his keyblad be apart of. Same MoM that is also camping out in the prison Yozora is in.
I think using KH allows for something different to happen if you abuse the power of waking and that's what the MoM wanted to see: WHO could do it, and then steal their body. Ik it's a stretch but its relevant to Yozora.
Yozora attacks Sora after he realizes Sora has gotten himself trapped there too. Now why did they battle on top of Sora's dive to heart stage? Lose the fight, sora gets frozen 'in his dive to heart' and Yozora takes his power to use a keyblade.
Win the fight, Yozora fades away on Soras dove to heart. But did he die, lose his form, or fade away?
Moreover, the SAME thing happens whether you win or lose.
That prison Yozora is in has to be related to the power to use Keyblades and the consequences of Keyblade powers such as the power of waking. Otherwise I see no point in Yozora attack Sora.
Regardless of what or why or how, keyblades are needed and for all intents and purposes, we still dont know why
Last thing I want to point out is that phrase, reconnect kingdom hearts. What if that prison world is a world abandoned by kingdom hearts? Reconnecting it, will restore it to the light. Maybe the MoM did something to the world to cause a phenomenon once it came back or was reconnecting. But you cant do it without a vessel that can abuse the power of waking?
Maybe the black box is the secret ingredient to capture a world of create a special one
My point is that Sora needed to disappear and needed to disappear INTO that prisom world Yozora is trapped in. Making Yozoras reason to be there much much more related to keyblade powers and KH moreso than his mission
TL:DR. Everybody getting used by the MoM
Ayyyyye here it is! Lolol
Even tho I like the theory I respectfully disagree
You know what i change my mind you might be on to something
Although I still have my theories
Totally cool! Always overlooked especially in these vids but they're just our opinions, totally cool to disagree!
-Alex
This theory could easily be debunked by saying that some other character said their name was sora. Probably the master of masters if that's the correct theory
You should also make a video on who yozoras heart originally belonged to, if you dont know what I'm talking about, go back to the conversation sora had with the nameless star. "His heart replaced with another"
He said he was looking for sora he only said I've heard of you, you all are really reaching
Hmm Verum Rex and KH series are connected somehow....
Sora is the Japanese unisex name, like Angel, right?
Your mic is really staticy bro you might want to use a little bit of pro EQ or something or get a better Mike I'm not doing that to make fun of you I actually enjoy your content but as a producer and a vocal and engineer that is what I want to be in life and I make my own music I can hear the staticy stuff and it's distracting me
Ugh......more questions rather than answers. God damn you Nomura......
Story of the KH Community right?
-Alex
The girls name is Stella
The most vague Kingdom Hearts has been since the first game..
I can't tell what is symbolic or literal at this point, and I'm loving it.
Honestly man fuck that game they do not make any sense they just have people breaking their heads no disrespect dude
None taken, these games are convoluted just to be so
-Alex