Useful links: Smokeless tool: github.com/DavidS95/Smokeless_UMAF MSI utility v3: forums.guru3d.com/threads/windows-line-based-vs-message-signaled-based-interrupts-msi-tool.378044/ ISLC: www.wagnardsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1256 MINECRAFT FPS STRESS MAP: www.curseforge.com/minecraft/worlds/gamerpotions-fps-stress-test Video to disable C-state: ruclips.net/video/pTvWJey9ku8/видео.html ROG ALLY playlist: ruclips.net/video/V3n7lBB9gjo/видео.html If you enjoy my humble content Subscribe & Join the TECHOSAUR Community on Discord here : discord.gg/PXmJY6BP8b. you can seek technical assistance, exchange ideas and experiences, relax, share memes, make video request and most importanly feel at home
I think I’m going to do everything except disabling any devices/drivers in device manager. I use OneDrive and iCloud and Google drive and I just want to make sure that they are still running properly even though I know they can consume resources. Can’t wait to start applying these changes after I creat a system image. Thanks and love your channel! ❤
Thanks for comment, u can try disabling the HPET (high precision event timer). It's not going to impact cloud drives, for some reason, Ryzen CPUs struggle with it enabled and may give you some micro-stuttering. You can try it, but you don't need to disable the rest of the virtual devices.
Just bought an ally and have nothing but problems. Ive done all the tips and tricks to boost performance. The ENTIRE system is up to date and i can barely get over 20fps in any game. I finally started seeing clocks over 800mhz on the gpu after the latest AMD driver update but on at least the Witcher 3 on low settings FSR 2 on performance, 720p im barely getting 20fps. Im at a loss as to what to do. Ive tried everything. The witcher is the main game im playing on it right now
check if fans are working, what temps are you getting? this low frequency on GPU either indicates there's no power juice to feed it or its thermal throttling or being limited by some third-party tool that's controlling clocks also for double checking, try setting the turbo power plan in Armory Crate to see if it changes something, unfortunately, I can't do much remotely but please write in here so we may find a solution
@@TECHOSAUR I appreciate the speedy reply, the fans are maxed out on my 18w manual mode and according to the Command Center monitor its running between 90-95°. On most videos ive seen people are running in the 60s or lower. Bot sure if that's accurate though
@@mr_invisible1198 that's really high temp, and especially that u are running it on 18w, it should be around 40c with max fan speed, usually it runs too cool with it's dual fans cooling system! I think you are hitting the thermal throttling point that's why getting a limited GPU clock, a way to spot the cause, run fans on maximum speed and put ur hand close to the exhaust vents, if the air coming is hot that means it's actually transferring hest from chip, instead if it's cold air coming from vents while CPU showing 90c that means u got something wrong with the cooling system not transferring heat so just RMA
Wow, that's kind of weird! Maybe don't disable the global C state. Avoid that change if it's causing higher temperatures. The rest shouldn't cause any rise in temperature
@@TECHOSAURPlease make more videos on the ally if you have anymore tweaks or recommendations. I saw insane improvement in fps, a lot games are now running easily at 60fps or higher on high settings this a dream. U are genius fr.
Go to sound settings and turn off Dolby atmosphere special audio. The processing is getting deprioritized, and with the handheld speakers it doesn’t make any difference imo.
It's fine to keep it running all the time, but when u don't want to use it, you can either press stop in the tool options or close it all together, in both ways it stops operating I usually keep it all the time, it launches on windows startup
Ohh, that would be interesting. I'll make sure to check and experiment with it next video. Thanks for the mention!!! I'll share and update you about it, thanks
Just to update you, I’ve already gone ahead and tried it on the ally. It gave me a very subtle change, still a positive one, but for those modern CPUs, those vulnerability protection processes won’t impact much performance. It was mainly a nightmare for old CPUs like those from 2018, so it’s kind of outdated and mostly pertains to Intel CPUs. Still, a video about it is WIP to share how I disabled them if you are interested, as well as some benchmarks. Thanks for your suggestion 🙂
If u check the two check boxes at the bottom saying to start minimized and auto start monitoring The second option is "launch with user login" it should open and start working by itself But u need to place the tool folder somewhere where u don't delete it, since it's not installed
Once I have booted the pen drive, and access the "new" bios, the controls do not work. I can't move around the panel and select the cpu common options settings. Any solution? I have tried connecting an external keyboard through type C and nothing and the buttons on the rog ally don't work either
do you have a multiadapter? try to connect your keyboard to it instead of directly to the ALLY You are right, that's why I said to use a keyboard because on this bootable tool you cant use the ALLY gamepad, it works only with a connected keyboard
@@javiervicentepenalver9010 maybe because when you connect a keyboard directly to the Ally it only delivers power not data while In BIOS, once u are in Windows it gets recognized as keyboard, it's worth trying with a multi adapter
Thanks for your video, I got helldiver 2 fps 1080p rised from 32 to 35-36 though I still experienced frame drops as before to 25, I think it is bcz poor optimization. But I did feel stuttering due to frame drop become smoother😂 greatly alleviated. Do you know the mechanism behind that?just being curious, you made my day, many thanks!
I'm glad to know it helped. I'm not sure what you applied from this video, as each thing may have a different effect. Which tweak did you apply exactly from this guide?
@@TECHOSAUR I applied MSI and lslc, two apps from your link and gaming mode on. If you don't mind I would like to forward your channel to Chinese handheld community, since no one in my country did it that far.
@yutongduan1934 Sure, bro. This channel is ours all. Thanks for spreading the word! 🫶 I believe that latency could be the reason. When you did the MSI process, it allowed the GPU to get priority, which will render in lower latency, therefore improving its performance. Also, when you free up more paged system memory, you are able to allocate more memory where it counts, given the relatively small memory size of 16 GB when you already have a GPU in need of dedicated memory. Then, Windows takes about 4 GB. The CPU isn't remaining with lots of memory to do its tasks.
There is only a proprietary egpu for the rog ally and they’re well over $1000 you might be able to find a used one online for $800 or so but good luck with that. And other egpu’s are not compatible. It’s stupid I know
I'm not seeing the link for video where you describe how to use smokeless to disable c states. Other than that , Great tips thank you subbed and liked..
Habe jetzt mal die Anleitung befolgt, da ich bei Need for Speed Unbound FPS Drops habe und das Spiel von 75FPS zwischendurch auf 50fps fällt und wie Zeitlupe läuft. Leider ist das Spiel sehr speziell aber die CPU Auslastung wurde sehr erheblich reduziert von knapp 70-80% auf 40-50% , Mal schauen ob ich noch einen Fix für Need for Speed unbound finde.
I did benchmarks before and after doing this, exactly same results, there’s no difference, but I have no problems with stability or anything so I just left it as it is now
Yes, especially the ISLC tool to free some RAM space, I use it on legion go Also I disabled High precision event timer in the device manager, it's known to cause some performance latency for all Ryzen CPUs
@yutongduan1934 If your VRAM is taking up 5 GB out of 16 GB, You will be left with 11 GB for CPU RAM. Usually, Windows 11 takes up 4 GB, so you will be left with approximately 7 GB. Most modern games take at least 6 GB, so you will be left with 1 GB. I would suggest setting it to "if memory less than 2048 GB" to purge the standby list.
@@jcmk3829 if you are hitting over 75c with 30w you will thermally throttle at 43w performance gains are minimal, it would be nice to under volt the APU, this way you can save even more power and battery without losing performance and even perhaps increase TDP when connected to adapter, SMOKELESS tool has it for Steamdeck but not yet on ALLY, I think with later version we'll get it
It's not going to turn it into the ally X 😄 You don't need to apply all of them. The most important ones are disabling HPET and, if you like using the memory standby list tool. There is no need for registry changes
@@TECHOSAUR can you also get more fps in RPCS3 emulator? if so i'd be grateful if You could test Twisted Metal 2012 on RPCS3 emulator considering that Rog Ally can hit when plugged 23 fps.
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Useful links:
Smokeless tool: github.com/DavidS95/Smokeless_UMAF
MSI utility v3: forums.guru3d.com/threads/windows-line-based-vs-message-signaled-based-interrupts-msi-tool.378044/
ISLC: www.wagnardsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1256
MINECRAFT FPS STRESS MAP: www.curseforge.com/minecraft/worlds/gamerpotions-fps-stress-test
Video to disable C-state: ruclips.net/video/pTvWJey9ku8/видео.html
ROG ALLY playlist: ruclips.net/video/V3n7lBB9gjo/видео.html
If you enjoy my humble content Subscribe & Join the TECHOSAUR Community on Discord here : discord.gg/PXmJY6BP8b.
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Hi, all links down ?
@@Deins1975 fixed them, sorry were copied wrong 😅
Thank you for this.
Intelligent Standby List Cleaner is a godsend on my desktop, hadn't thought to put it on the Ally.
I think I’m going to do everything except disabling any devices/drivers in device manager. I use OneDrive and iCloud and Google drive and I just want to make sure that they are still running properly even though I know they can consume resources. Can’t wait to start applying these changes after I creat a system image. Thanks and love your channel! ❤
Thanks for comment, u can try disabling the HPET (high precision event timer). It's not going to impact cloud drives, for some reason, Ryzen CPUs struggle with it enabled and may give you some micro-stuttering. You can try it, but you don't need to disable the rest of the virtual devices.
Just bought an ally and have nothing but problems. Ive done all the tips and tricks to boost performance. The ENTIRE system is up to date and i can barely get over 20fps in any game. I finally started seeing clocks over 800mhz on the gpu after the latest AMD driver update but on at least the Witcher 3 on low settings FSR 2 on performance, 720p im barely getting 20fps. Im at a loss as to what to do. Ive tried everything.
The witcher is the main game im playing on it right now
check if fans are working, what temps are you getting? this low frequency on GPU either indicates there's no power juice to feed it or its thermal throttling or being limited by some third-party tool that's controlling clocks
also for double checking, try setting the turbo power plan in Armory Crate to see if it changes something, unfortunately, I can't do much remotely but please write in here so we may find a solution
@@TECHOSAUR I appreciate the speedy reply, the fans are maxed out on my 18w manual mode and according to the Command Center monitor its running between 90-95°. On most videos ive seen people are running in the 60s or lower. Bot sure if that's accurate though
@@mr_invisible1198 that's really high temp, and especially that u are running it on 18w, it should be around 40c with max fan speed, usually it runs too cool with it's dual fans cooling system!
I think you are hitting the thermal throttling point that's why getting a limited GPU clock, a way to spot the cause, run fans on maximum speed and put ur hand close to the exhaust vents, if the air coming is hot that means it's actually transferring hest from chip, instead if it's cold air coming from vents while CPU showing 90c that means u got something wrong with the cooling system not transferring heat so just RMA
@@TECHOSAUR thanks so much dude! I'll try this out and hopefully it's something that can be fixed easily and quickly.
Sounds like system is getting too hot and throttling which is why your FPS is so bad. Maybe you have faulty cooling
As always beautiful amazing
I did this for my Lenovo Legion Go as it has the same APU as the ROG Ally and the temperature went from 70C to 90-100C
In some instances..
Wow, that's kind of weird!
Maybe don't disable the global C state. Avoid that change if it's causing higher temperatures. The rest shouldn't cause any rise in temperature
Amazing video thanks for the help!
Glad it helped!
@@TECHOSAURPlease make more videos on the ally if you have anymore tweaks or recommendations. I saw insane improvement in fps, a lot games are now running easily at 60fps or higher on high settings this a dream. U are genius fr.
After fix, I have sound problem on low tdp. 10wt and cyberpunk and sound very bad :(
Go to sound settings and turn off Dolby atmosphere special audio. The processing is getting deprioritized, and with the handheld speakers it doesn’t make any difference imo.
Ah I see this snake oil is still a thing
I mean I don't think these tweaks are Snake Oil per se, but I don't think the juice is quite worth the squeeze.
Hey just wondering if you will ever do the 32gb 7500mhz ram upgrade. Would love to see your test and results.
I'm considering it ! 👍
When you are done with the intelligent standby list cleaner tool are you closing it or minimizing it?
It's fine to keep it running all the time, but when u don't want to use it, you can either press stop in the tool options or close it all together, in both ways it stops operating
I usually keep it all the time, it launches on windows startup
Will a Bluetooth controller work? I’m having the same issue. I missed that part about the keyboard and multitap lol
Yes it should
BloatyNosy und Kern Isolierung helfen auch schon und sind nicht ganz so kompliziert
Would disabling meltdown and spectre mitigation improve performance for the Ally? Or is it not affected? And would you look into this?
Ohh, that would be interesting. I'll make sure to check and experiment with it next video. Thanks for the mention!!!
I'll share and update you about it, thanks
Just to update you, I’ve already gone ahead and tried it on the ally. It gave me a very subtle change, still a positive one, but for those modern CPUs, those vulnerability protection processes won’t impact much performance. It was mainly a nightmare for old CPUs like those from 2018, so it’s kind of outdated and mostly pertains to Intel CPUs.
Still, a video about it is WIP to share how I disabled them if you are interested, as well as some benchmarks.
Thanks for your suggestion 🙂
I made a video about it, hope its useful:
ruclips.net/video/-in0DCfWG1M/видео.html
@TECHOSAUR should i turn on ISCL Tool every time when i turn on rog ally?
If u check the two check boxes at the bottom saying to start minimized and auto start monitoring
The second option is "launch with user login" it should open and start working by itself
But u need to place the tool folder somewhere where u don't delete it, since it's not installed
@@TECHOSAUR What about "free memory is lower than:" if i play on 6gb vram i should set on 6144 MB?
Great video
Once I have booted the pen drive, and access the "new" bios, the controls do not work. I can't move around the panel and select the cpu common options settings. Any solution? I have tried connecting an external keyboard through type C and nothing and the buttons on the rog ally don't work either
do you have a multiadapter? try to connect your keyboard to it instead of directly to the ALLY
You are right, that's why I said to use a keyboard because on this bootable tool you cant use the ALLY gamepad, it works only with a connected keyboard
@@TECHOSAUR dont have😢
@@javiervicentepenalver9010 maybe because when you connect a keyboard directly to the Ally it only delivers power not data while In BIOS, once u are in Windows it gets recognized as keyboard, it's worth trying with a multi adapter
Thanks for your video, I got helldiver 2 fps 1080p rised from 32 to 35-36 though I still experienced frame drops as before to 25, I think it is bcz poor optimization. But I did feel stuttering due to frame drop become smoother😂 greatly alleviated. Do you know the mechanism behind that?just being curious, you made my day, many thanks!
I'm glad to know it helped.
I'm not sure what you applied from this video, as each thing may have a different effect. Which tweak did you apply exactly from this guide?
@@TECHOSAUR I applied MSI and lslc, two apps from your link and gaming mode on. If you don't mind I would like to forward your channel to Chinese handheld community, since no one in my country did it that far.
@yutongduan1934 Sure, bro. This channel is ours all. Thanks for spreading the word! 🫶
I believe that latency could be the reason. When you did the MSI process, it allowed the GPU to get priority, which will render in lower latency, therefore improving its performance.
Also, when you free up more paged system memory, you are able to allocate more memory where it counts, given the relatively small memory size of 16 GB when you already have a GPU in need of dedicated memory. Then, Windows takes about 4 GB. The CPU isn't remaining with lots of memory to do its tasks.
@@TECHOSAUR Thanks so much sir! You are so professional!
@yutongduan1934 I'm ur friend, not sir 🫶
Is there any huage Hardware Performance Mod for more power. Maybe with a 200-300$ eGPU?
sure an egpu will give a big uplift, but you can't use other than Asus XG mobile GPUs
There is only a proprietary egpu for the rog ally and they’re well over $1000 you might be able to find a used one online for $800 or so but good luck with that. And other egpu’s are not compatible. It’s stupid I know
Can you tell me how disable C states? Literally cannot find it anywhere
ruclips.net/video/pTvWJey9ku8/видео.htmlsi=43K764LwITbIU2RN
I made this video previously showing how to do it
Check from min 2:00
Can I do this on the legion go
Yes, I also have them the same way on mine
I'm not seeing the link for video where you describe how to use smokeless to disable c states. Other than that , Great tips thank you subbed and liked..
Hey thanks
Here u can find it:
ruclips.net/video/pTvWJey9ku8/видео.htmlsi=WcLbG7ZY_cvaeT-7
Habe jetzt mal die Anleitung befolgt, da ich bei Need for Speed Unbound FPS Drops habe und das Spiel von 75FPS zwischendurch auf 50fps fällt und wie Zeitlupe läuft. Leider ist das Spiel sehr speziell aber die CPU Auslastung wurde sehr erheblich reduziert von knapp 70-80% auf 40-50% , Mal schauen ob ich noch einen Fix für Need for Speed unbound finde.
Anyone tried this? I tried it a while back on my basic pc and Fount it causes more problems than pros..
Which part of it caused more problems ?
Could be helpful to test
I did benchmarks before and after doing this, exactly same results, there’s no difference, but I have no problems with stability or anything so I just left it as it is now
ISLC does not work for legion go
On mine it's working
What problem are u getting with it ?
@@TECHOSAUR It works, apparently I didn't check it that way.Thanks for the instructions!
can some of this be done of legion go to give better performance ?
Yes, especially the ISLC tool to free some RAM space, I use it on legion go
Also I disabled High precision event timer in the device manager, it's known to cause some performance latency for all Ryzen CPUs
@@TECHOSAUR thanks man!!
Can u follow ur settings if i have my vram on auto
Yes sure
Usually how much is it allocating VRAM in ur games ?
hi if my VRAM is 5 gb what I should set would be the best for free memory，thanks so much man！ love your videos！@@TECHOSAUR
@yutongduan1934 If your VRAM is taking up 5 GB out of 16 GB,
You will be left with 11 GB for CPU RAM.
Usually, Windows 11 takes up 4 GB, so you will be left with approximately 7 GB.
Most modern games take at least 6 GB, so you will be left with 1 GB.
I would suggest setting it to "if memory less than 2048 GB" to purge the standby list.
@@TECHOSAUR thank you so much for your solution man，I find you are the only one who did it so far and so professional. Love your videos!
👌
50 watts not worth it
🔥
Tests were done only in 30w bro 😄
Yeah I was talking about last video good work impressive result after this one 👍 thanks 😊
@@nspronspro6486 oh yeah, 30w FTW! 😂
setting it to 50w was to show anyone curious to know the difference, but as you say it is not worth it at all
What about 43w
@@jcmk3829 if you are hitting over 75c with 30w you will thermally throttle at 43w
performance gains are minimal, it would be nice to under volt the APU, this way you can save even more power and battery without losing performance and even perhaps increase TDP when connected to adapter, SMOKELESS tool has it for Steamdeck but not yet on ALLY, I think with later version we'll get it
This didn't do sh*t! Games run the same or a bit worse!!!! 😂
It's not going to turn it into the ally X 😄
You don't need to apply all of them. The most important ones are disabling HPET and, if you like using the memory standby list tool.
There is no need for registry changes
🤣🤣🤣 for what????? 2-5fps?:? hmm..........
Someone said in COD u could get 15fps with higher CPU boost, need to test it and will share it !
If it doesn't hinder.. it helps. Ya dig? You got better advice... hmm?
2 or 5 fps it's more not less, anything that can help it's welcome
@@TECHOSAUR can you also get more fps in RPCS3 emulator? if so i'd be grateful if You could test Twisted Metal 2012 on RPCS3 emulator considering that Rog Ally can hit when plugged 23 fps.
@@hagenhallgard8619 I'll try to test it ASAP !