I had a similar issue in the early 80s on my 73 Plymouth Sattelite. Headers were roasting the starter. I wrapped the starter with an asbestos tile and that did the trick.
I'm on my 3rd starter in 5 years. Last starter replaced 2/22/20, but it is under warranty. Now I just have to do it again. The long bolt is stronger, it's an upgrade. Whatch the Junkman2000 on here, he had the original short bolt and it broke the block it needed to be welded. I upgraded it the first time I did my starter, I believe mine is for a suburban.
No no heat shield, I was about to do my starter once again, but now it turned out to be the ignition switch. I tried 2 AC Delco cheap Chinese replacements and both had problems. So I went to contemporary corvette salvage yard and purchased a used ignition switch with key assembly for $50 and stopped at the locksmith and had them make me a new key for the new assembly that matched my original chip so I didn't have to get it programmed. Problem solved for now, just waiting for the next problem, frigging chevy! My 2 Lexus' NEVER give me problems.
Thanks for doing these videos. I’m running a cammed 09 c6 for hard mountain use and haven’t had too much trouble thus far but these videos are gold for when things do finally wear out. So far I’ve just killed an alternator pulley (decoupled style pulley so I just had the pulley welded) and my evap solenoid died. I’ve been running the car for over a year started stock and did a bilstein shock, poly adjust pad, longtubes, bolt on basic mods with a mgw, r888r on all four corners and these c5-c7 chassis style cars are animals!
I'm here for the community fam, I just enjoy sharing the knowledge. And 100% these platforms have so munch potential for the money but of course they have there own issues here and there. Sounds like everything thats gone wrong with your car has been realatively simple, I'd love to see the build do you have photos on your IG?
Beezy_Builds I’m Red_Comet1990 on IG. Yeah fortunately no major issues yet. Hopefully later than sooner but I have plans if and when things do die lol.
Man I can't believe mine still works. It has 115k miles on it, I've been tracking the car the past 2 years with kooks headers and no wrap. Then when my engine blew, a piece of the rod hit the starter, and the oil from the crankcase started a fire right on top of it and the thing still works.....
Where are you doing the work? Military hobby facility? I have an intermittent no start. I keep getting a PO335 and PO340 Cam Crank circuitry code. I have checked the cam sensor looks ok. I will jack it up and take out the starter and check the cran sensor. Car is a 2005 with only 30k. Love the car when it runs but it is a queen for sure.
Yea so I did this last week, but on jacks in my apartments rocky parking lot. It took half a day, actually didn't get it done until 5:30am it was horrible haha. Had to be done though, car wouldn't start lol.
@@Beezy_Builds Yea I beleive so, all the work I did was under the car, unlike in your video, they detached right above the starter but I still had to take the hangars and other bolts off so I could drop it down. I guess that's the manifold it connects to right there by the starter? The previous owner installed a cat back borla exhaust though but I didnt really have to to touch that besides disconnecting from it to drop it.
damn i think mine is going out and i was just getting ready to install my headers, i guess if my starter was gonna fail it then it failed at a good time lol
hope that one last a long time, never fun job. checked your pulleys lately? been seeing to many videos of oem failures. knightdrive tv had a cool setup from lsx innovations that replaced some weak links in the factory setup. good luck out there.
I replaced main tensioner with oem, and will be doing the others. He did have a blower on his car might have added some stress idk. His whole ps bracket broke. Got me nervous, eventually I'll get em. One dude had the main tensioner pulley just come apart and he was just cruising wound up overheating the engine. I want em but I also want some headers and slot of heat wrap....
Pretty sad you have to replace and rap the starter with a heat shield because the factory didnt add a heat shield gm is so cheap they will do anything to save a dime
GM didn't install the Longtubes and the starters in these cars are now 18+ years old. Any starter in any car gets heat soaked and will start to fail over time. Especially if you run longtube headers right next to it. Wrapping the headers and wrapping the starter will delay starter failure due to heat soak.
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I had a similar issue in the early 80s on my 73 Plymouth Sattelite. Headers were roasting the starter. I wrapped the starter with an asbestos tile and that did the trick.
"I really don't like working on my car that much to be honest..." - I feel ya man - same here! But I enjoy the hell out of it :D
Haha you and I are in the same boat Tim
I'm on my 3rd starter in 5 years. Last starter replaced 2/22/20, but it is under warranty. Now I just have to do it again. The long bolt is stronger, it's an upgrade. Whatch the Junkman2000 on here, he had the original short bolt and it broke the block it needed to be welded. I upgraded it the first time I did my starter, I believe mine is for a suburban.
Is there in any heat shielding in your set up?
No no heat shield, I was about to do my starter once again, but now it turned out to be the ignition switch. I tried 2 AC Delco cheap Chinese replacements and both had problems. So I went to contemporary corvette salvage yard and purchased a used ignition switch with key assembly for $50 and stopped at the locksmith and had them make me a new key for the new assembly that matched my original chip so I didn't have to get it programmed. Problem solved for now, just waiting for the next problem, frigging chevy! My 2 Lexus' NEVER give me problems.
Thanks for doing these videos. I’m running a cammed 09 c6 for hard mountain use and haven’t had too much trouble thus far but these videos are gold for when things do finally wear out. So far I’ve just killed an alternator pulley (decoupled style pulley so I just had the pulley welded) and my evap solenoid died. I’ve been running the car for over a year started stock and did a bilstein shock, poly adjust pad, longtubes, bolt on basic mods with a mgw, r888r on all four corners and these c5-c7 chassis style cars are animals!
I'm here for the community fam, I just enjoy sharing the knowledge. And 100% these platforms have so munch potential for the money but of course they have there own issues here and there. Sounds like everything thats gone wrong with your car has been realatively simple, I'd love to see the build do you have photos on your IG?
Beezy_Builds I’m Red_Comet1990 on IG. Yeah fortunately no major issues yet. Hopefully later than sooner but I have plans if and when things do die lol.
When i get the C5 this is the go to for maintenance hell yeah
Appreciate it fam!
What size bolts are the two long bolts mines an 03 I'm doing my starter tomorrow if I need to replace the bolts not sure what size I need to get
Not 100% sure brother but if you google around on the forums you should be able to find it
Did u end up finding out?
Man I can't believe mine still works. It has 115k miles on it, I've been tracking the car the past 2 years with kooks headers and no wrap. Then when my engine blew, a piece of the rod hit the starter, and the oil from the crankcase started a fire right on top of it and the thing still works.....
😂 damn your starter is the real MVP! How cloese do the kooks run to the starter, maybe itd just my headers
@@Beezy_Builds I haven't really measured but its pretty close, have to imagine that thing gets really hot on track.
Where are you doing the work? Military hobby facility? I have an intermittent no start. I keep getting a PO335 and PO340 Cam Crank circuitry code. I have checked the cam sensor looks ok. I will jack it up and take out the starter and check the cran sensor. Car is a 2005 with only 30k. Love the car when it runs but it is a queen for sure.
Yeah brother hobby shop on post, id probably replace the crank sesor cheap enough there
Yea so I did this last week, but on jacks in my apartments rocky parking lot. It took half a day, actually didn't get it done until 5:30am it was horrible haha. Had to be done though, car wouldn't start lol.
Haha you are a lengend for that one, not a fun job
@@Beezy_Builds Yea man I hardly know shit about cars but I'm always gonna give it a shot working on it before I take it to a shop, best way to learn 👍
@@gopro2027 i respect that fam! Are you still on stock exhaust manifolds?
@@Beezy_Builds Yea I beleive so, all the work I did was under the car, unlike in your video, they detached right above the starter but I still had to take the hangars and other bolts off so I could drop it down. I guess that's the manifold it connects to right there by the starter? The previous owner installed a cat back borla exhaust though but I didnt really have to to touch that besides disconnecting from it to drop it.
You on the money
Do what I can fam 👌🏽
GOOD JOB MY BRO!
Appreciate ya!
Link for the extra long bolt?
Came with my starter the link for thr starter is in the description
Looks to me that that wrap would carry dirt and water and would add premature malfunction
Maybe, but still will last longer then it being left unwrapped
I'm going from below... how the heck you skip those bolts on the bottom... I'm mad at this video
Will this work on a 09 c6 z06?
Yes sir
Thanks!
damn i think mine is going out and i was just getting ready to install my headers, i guess if my starter was gonna fail it then it failed at a good time lol
Perfect time
I never knew starters had a ground wire I thought the starter was ground by the engine
hope that one last a long time, never fun job. checked your pulleys lately? been seeing to many videos of oem failures. knightdrive tv had a cool setup from lsx innovations that replaced some weak links in the factory setup. good luck out there.
I actually never heard of them failing I didnt get to watch his video yet though
Will you be upgrading?
I replaced main tensioner with oem, and will be doing the others. He did have a blower on his car might have added some stress idk. His whole ps bracket broke. Got me nervous, eventually I'll get em. One dude had the main tensioner pulley just come apart and he was just cruising wound up overheating the engine. I want em but I also want some headers and slot of heat wrap....
@@colemcmeans7809 hmm interesting I will for sure look into it, honestly its news to me haha, it never ends right
I worry a little too much but damn that shit would su k ass
man wtf i used this same starter and it broke when i was torquing it to 37 ft lb
If the starters not totally seated it can break when yoi tighten it
@@Beezy_Builds idk it was flush on the block and the bolts went in smooth, maybe my torque wrench added an extra 30 ft lbs lol but damn this sucks
Pretty sad you have to replace and rap the starter with a heat shield because the factory didnt add a heat shield gm is so cheap they will do anything to save a dime
Its not GMs fault in this case the longtubes cook the starter
GM didn't install the Longtubes and the starters in these cars are now 18+ years old. Any starter in any car gets heat soaked and will start to fail over time. Especially if you run longtube headers right next to it.
Wrapping the headers and wrapping the starter will delay starter failure due to heat soak.
DUDE SOUND LIKE THE C HOP NOT
"intermediate" lol
Even playa F up haha
@@Beezy_Builds I don't even remember making this comment. lol