BAD FORM vs HALF REP DEBATE IS OVER (I HOPE)

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  • @saibov
    @saibov  3 года назад +16

    BY THE WAY: I meant the "lifting weights" when said "weightlifting is not a sport but it's a category"
    I know weightlifting is a sport🤣
    Just made sure everything is clear!
    Thanks for watching!

    • @omjc207
      @omjc207 3 года назад

      That is a very interesting point
      So you say that we should do also half and also full reps

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      Yea! Both are important!

  • @fireballdash2936
    @fireballdash2936 3 года назад +17

    Matteo spinazzola uses the half rep method too he explained it too, the underrated secret

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +10

      This is why he is one of the strongest ever!

  • @_GSIII
    @_GSIII 3 года назад +8

    @SaibovCalisthenics Bruh, you’re EXACTLY right on this.. Those who don’t understand the importance of and criticize half reps (or good reps that aren’t necessarily full range of motion), are truly misinformed. The constant tension that these types of reps require, build strength and hypertrophy while also allowing more reps to be completed thus allowing the muscles and tendons to build strength for the movement being performed. Great information here Saibov, this topic is not highlighted and discussed enough. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this👍🏽💪🏽💯

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +2

      Yessir! Indeed!
      Thanks for the support!

  • @nicolasalmeida7523
    @nicolasalmeida7523 3 года назад +5

    Nice point of view! I've never thought from this perspective

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      Happy to help!

  • @florian117
    @florian117 3 года назад +19

    4:18 Me after 10 strict pull ups trying to do extra reps

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +2

      hahahahahah

  • @bossboy191919
    @bossboy191919 3 года назад +17

    Saibov: Let me show you bad form
    Me: You can do that?!?

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Gapo1994
    @Gapo1994 3 года назад +4

    You are 100% right, I use those on a regular basis to strengthen my sticking points. But what I think what bothers people is not the bad form or partial reps, it is the way those are used to complete challenges. I am okay with everything but if someone does some challenging set, I expect good form and full range of motion.

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +3

      For sure! I am not talking about it challenges and competitions at all. I wouldn't even trigger this if it was only for the challenges etc. It's the ignorance within youngsters and even experienced athletes are misled and misinformed with certain people in calisthenics🙏🏼

  • @edgarasspiridonovas4978
    @edgarasspiridonovas4978 3 года назад +4

    Finally! Truth has been spoken! 💪

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +2

      🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @pessumpower
    @pessumpower 3 года назад +4

    Nice videos, I've been getting great results in the squats since starting to do heavy ass quarter squats/half squats

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +2

      Tell em!!

  • @Lucas_SM_Gymnasthenics
    @Lucas_SM_Gymnasthenics 3 года назад +2

    Finally someone said it,thanks

  • @philippsurgers4283
    @philippsurgers4283 3 года назад +1

    True words bro! 🙏🏻💯👍🏻

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @jahdread
    @jahdread 3 года назад +1

    Great now I feel better about my non full range motion reps 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @benzhang3790
    @benzhang3790 3 года назад +2

    Quality content bro! 👊🔥

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @elomary8128
    @elomary8128 3 года назад +1

    Very cool, good luck ❤👍

  • @brandonx19
    @brandonx19 3 года назад +1

    Partial range or half reps allow you to overload the muscles making you stronger. Awesome video. You the only one that understands this.

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      👊🏼👊🏼

  • @user-ll4gp4vs1d
    @user-ll4gp4vs1d 3 года назад +6

    Руслан, каждый твой ролик смотрю до последней секундочки, очень люблю твои видосы! С любовью Россия!

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      Спасибо! Привет из Испании бро!

  • @xNulg
    @xNulg 3 года назад +2

    Good video. Could give more of an explanation, though. I feel like people will not see this as very informational. Can you make a video about high reps vs leverages (front/back lever, planche, etc) vs weighted calisthenics for goal progression? Such as strength, muscle building, and endurance?

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      I am planning to drop some topics soon bro! Thanks for the ideas!!

  • @lucasquattrucci4122
    @lucasquattrucci4122 3 года назад +5

    Since i have include some high reps in my training (some are half reps cause sets of 20 are never easy) my progression have explode 🚂💨🔥 and the form get cleaner and cleaner now

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      Tell em!!!

  • @Eli77
    @Eli77 3 года назад

    Good thoughts

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      👊🏼🙏🏼

  • @user-li8jt2tw6g
    @user-li8jt2tw6g 3 года назад

    Не устану это повторять,спасибо Задоянову)

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      ахахахахахахахахаха бля🤣

  • @saifali2337
    @saifali2337 3 года назад

    Yes you are right

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @frog6054
    @frog6054 3 года назад

    I'mma start doing start doing some half reps

  • @ElverGalarga-wy8zx
    @ElverGalarga-wy8zx 3 года назад +1

    grande saivov

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      🙏🏼

  • @naqashstreetworkout
    @naqashstreetworkout 3 года назад +3

    Still some newly born athletes think that someone with an experience of more than 11 years is wrong.

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      🤣‼️

  • @raton5936
    @raton5936 3 года назад +1

    I always thought about this too. When fatigue or near the end of a set you tend to just let go of the bar because lack of range of motion. Theoretically if you stayed on the bar and half rep till your goal it should be more time under tension!!!
    #Facts

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      RIGHT!

    • @venomche
      @venomche 3 года назад

      How many pull ups are you doing per training when youre at the fatigue and you need to half rep? Poor excuse. Why don't you do slow negatives when fatigued at last reps or some isometrics? Numbers, numbers, numbers... They will come, life is long enough, better plan looking at calisthenics as marathon and be healthy, fit and good looking at 60 too! My point is - better do less clean full range of motion reps(chin above the bar, not chest to bar like Ruslan because that's an explosive one) fore more sets than rushing with "high" numbers with traditional-bodybuilding-clickbait-articles where the more of your reps are coming from pulling probably with your forearms. My brother Saibov is trolling. He knows that that won't get you nowhere he might just forgotten how much time it takes to practise a movement before you master it. If I see your ass and you're training calisthenica 2,5 years like I do or less and do half reps and tell me you're doing more pull ups per training or week than me - be my guest, but you are the person who's racionalizing things then and who want's to be political correct just in orded to fit in society. Take a look at Ruslan's first BB requirements. When he did dips he didn't know what he was doing. He was lucky because he was young not to fuck up his joints. Everyone has a limited amount of fuck up trys. He is a fanatic. Understand his perspective. You must listen to your own body. And what I mean by this is that he always knew what he wants to achieve. You can't be like him, or shouldn't. For example: I'm two years older than Ruslan. And he is 8x experienced than me right now. That still doesn't mean both of us hit our calisthenics potential. But what matters more than that, at least to me is, to share our knowledges and energy one day far in future from this day. And even if I never reach his timings in legendary sets - the shit will be inspirational for me enough to keep pushing, till I die. Salute Saibov and sorry for not still stalking you that much on instagram - I'm outside on bars and my phone is left by. xD

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +2

      @@venomche It's scientifically proven bro🤘🏼 No trolling and excusing here👊🏼
      I wonder how you claim stuff here about what I didn't know and what I knew at the specific period of time, lol😆
      Good luck bro thanks for the long ass text that didn't quite make any sense to oppose what is said in the video☺️👊🏼

    • @venomche
      @venomche 3 года назад

      @@saibov I wasn't tryin yo argue with you, it makes no sense. I was replying to this fellas comment. For your sentence about me claiming something: Judging by the video I saw you going way deeper with the dips almost looking like you're breaking your shoulders. You cleaned your form. You improved. If you knew your form was accurate you'd never stop doing them like that, instead, you'd do em like Hannibal does. You're great mate, I study your moves. :D P.S. Bars in Spain look dope!

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +2

      @@venomche Then why trying to mislead people by saying "Saibov is trolling". I am dropping facts in here.
      Why my form changed - I have put on tremendous muscle mass since then which shortens your ROM in joints automatically. I weighted 65kg back then and 84 now.
      I still have no clue what was your whole message about though🤣 Especially since you are "studying" my moves👊🏼
      Good luck

  • @user-od1dc6fr7z
    @user-od1dc6fr7z 3 года назад +2

    Просто многие именитые атлеты (чернокожие) делают такие неполные отжимания и подтягивания, и у них внушительная форма, они объясняют это тем что мышца находится под напряжением и тд. Что типо если делать полные повторения то можно повредить суставы, что нагрузка из мышц уходит в суставы и тд. А где правда братан?🤔

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      Конечно, полными повторениями (полный разгиб в локтевом суставе) навредишь себе больше, как на подтягиваниях так и на отжиманиях👊🏼 Особенно когда речь идёт о быстрых повторениях!
      Неполные повторения позволяют дать большой стимул для разрешения мышечного волокна что затем можно восполнить достаточным количеством белка и таким образом растём!

  • @x.dement
    @x.dement 3 года назад

    Preach

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @Fyahking619
    @Fyahking619 3 года назад

    Yes! I can now do 100 reps.

  • @davideaw-lab6542
    @davideaw-lab6542 3 года назад

    In any strength training still exist partial Rep conditioning, any epception in Calisthenic.. also in weighted Calisthenic we see the Athlets train partial rom for specific workout, still It is a part of training. It is Just normal, the only thing that we have Just to Remember its "why" we do It for, With expirience its normal.

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +2

      Exactly! It's not so "black & white" here!
      There is always WHY behind something👊🏼

  • @shiv.ansh03
    @shiv.ansh03 3 года назад +1

    New place

  • @manusiaberuntung891
    @manusiaberuntung891 3 года назад

    which is better for a beginner, half reps pull up or australian pull up?

  • @nhojnhoj6485
    @nhojnhoj6485 3 года назад +5

    If you don't believe that partial reps work, look at the results Saibov has gotten using them. No one does better muscle ups than Saibov and lets not even talk about when he did the G.O.D set with 60 pullups. I've never seen anyone do that.
    Saibov, I have a question for you bro, do you only do bodyweight exercises? Its just that your upper body is so thick bro. You have huge arms and pecs. Do you do weights also?
    Much love from Puerto Rico.

    • @nicolasalmeida7523
      @nicolasalmeida7523 3 года назад +2

      In a recent post on Instagram he said that he doesn't do any regular "gym" exercise

    • @iliveinsideyourhouse3943
      @iliveinsideyourhouse3943 3 года назад

      He does some weighted calisthenics as well
      Anyway, you don't need to look at saibov or people that do half reps to know it's effective, there is a scientific research showing that's partial range of motion during exercise, or half reps works well for hypertrophy and strength. Check out the bioneer video on high reps push ups.

    • @FilippoCardoni
      @FilippoCardoni 3 года назад

      I think the idea for this video came from Matteo spinazzola's (DeU) trainings. People continuosly critic him because he does weird workouts but his strenght is just inhumane, and he says it's because of overloading partial reps with weights. People are MAD at him, but he's one of the strongest people alive and was once one of the best Calisthenics athletes ever.

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      I don't lift weights and I literally have never done this on a daily basis!
      I also barely do weighted calisthenics. If I do it's a small weights like 10-20kg🙏🏼
      Respect!

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      Matteo doesn't have anything to do with this video but I know that he preaches the same SCIENTIFICALLY BASED techniques🙏🏼
      The idea of this video was based on my own researches and experience✊🏼

  • @fireballdash2936
    @fireballdash2936 3 года назад +1

    Let's go the war is done😂 hopefully lol

  • @triza553
    @triza553 3 года назад +2

    I understand your point but some people only train partial reps, wont you only get stronger at partial reps then.

    • @abkonk
      @abkonk 3 года назад +2

      If you're weak, you'll still get stronger in general. The expectation is that you progress past half reps when they become way too easy.

    • @iliveinsideyourhouse3943
      @iliveinsideyourhouse3943 3 года назад +2

      What stopping you from doing both

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +2

      We should do both🙏🏼
      It's not so "black & white"
      Think of this as a complementary work✊🏼 Both complement each other👊🏼

  • @brazilcalisthenics
    @brazilcalisthenics 3 года назад +3

    I agree bro, half reps are good too, especially when people (beginners) don’t have enough strength to perform full reps..

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      ‼️‼️‼️‼️

  • @angelone1839
    @angelone1839 3 года назад +1

    Howlf rep? Are those doggy reps? Haha jk man. Nice vid

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      I didn't get it but thanks lol🙏🏼

  • @christonmorris4246
    @christonmorris4246 3 года назад

    😆 it's true ignorance is a sad thing u should always ask questions first But Rom police 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      There is always a WHY behind🙏🏼

  • @ronaldjr3092
    @ronaldjr3092 3 года назад +1

    "There's a lot of misunderstanding"
    You're too nice Ruslan. There's a lot strict form nazis saying stupid shit. Our muscles don't care about what some people decided to call "perfect form", as long as there's challenge, the cns will adapt

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      True🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯‼️‼️‼️

  • @user-li8jt2tw6g
    @user-li8jt2tw6g 3 года назад

    Руся красун💪👍

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      Спасибо Виталя!

  • @Dividendido
    @Dividendido 3 года назад +1

    Why everybody tried to tell us that full rom is must? So partial reps for endurance is okay? Really? Gtn

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      Both partial and full reps are okay🙏🏼

  • @user-ir4yj2rg2z
    @user-ir4yj2rg2z 3 года назад

    Да с качеством у некоторых проблемы. Качество=сила

    • @by_serke
      @by_serke 3 года назад +1

      Для дрищей могила😂

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      ‼️🙏🏼

  • @olegkruchek208
    @olegkruchek208 3 года назад

    Привет есть ли у тебя канал где вот эти все видео на польском языке?

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      Я веду только один канал🙏🏼

    • @olegkruchek208
      @olegkruchek208 3 года назад

      @@saibov Спасибо за ответ)

  • @gabriellu5463
    @gabriellu5463 3 года назад

    I feel like you were embarrassed while doing the bad form lmaoo

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +2

      kinda🤣🤣🤣

  • @former_junk_eater
    @former_junk_eater 3 года назад

    so basically what you are trying to say is that partial rom has its place in training, so don't confuse it with bad form that's gonna hurt your body

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      Yeah 👌🏼

  • @fuibe
    @fuibe 3 года назад

    The problem is not partial reps for building strength, endurance... the problem is people believing they do full ROM when they actually do partial reps.

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      The exact problem is triggered in the video and the myth is debunked🙏🏼
      But surely a lot of people do this and think it's clean but it's their choice. As long as they are not at the competition they cannot be judged and all the criticism is kind of irrelevant👊🏼 Good point tho👍🏻

  • @user-vh2jd1bt1h
    @user-vh2jd1bt1h 3 года назад +2

    Братан, зроби, будь ласка, субтитри, хоча б на англ мові

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад

      Субтитры всегда делаются, только не сразу☺️

  • @calisthenicssannin.
    @calisthenicssannin. 3 года назад +1

    many many ppl do half reps, it is called half form, so it is bad form... how can it be good form ? it is just bad form

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      I have just explained that😅

    • @calisthenicssannin.
      @calisthenicssannin. 3 года назад

      @@saibov not quite, u defend ppl who do half reps

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +2

      @@calisthenicssannin.
      What I said in the video is scientifically based and the benefits of it are proven many times. I believe you hear only what you wanna hear. The idea of the video was helping people to work on their stick (weak) points like people in other, more researched strength sports do. Nobody is defending anyone in here, I am preaching straight up facts.
      I simply can't make this thing UP! Give me the research that says only full ROM of any exercises in strength sports is the only form that we should be doing? Yes, you can't find those researches. Both FULL ROM
      & PARTIAL ROM ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
      Have you ever visited a physiotherapist? Most of the time the first steps to the rehab are short range of motion to strengthen some things. For example if you have a knee curve when doing pistols - you gotta practice touch down one legged squats.
      There is always a WHY behind everything.
      Have a good one and good luck with whatever you do bro 🙏🏼

    • @davideaw-lab6542
      @davideaw-lab6542 3 года назад

      @@calisthenicssannin. half rep its half ROM, half ROM not = bad form, essencially, its Just a part of training for the full ROM
      Of course all the way With good form (half and full ROM)

  • @CristiandAdamo
    @CristiandAdamo 3 года назад

    HALF REP IS A BAD FORM. ONLY FULL RANGE OR KEEP ON YOUR SOFA.. DON’T TRAIN

    • @saibov
      @saibov  3 года назад +1

      Who told you that 🤣