@@axios525 no excuse, he could've done further edits to make it work but I guess he's either lazy or doesn't care about spoiling his viewers, it's a shame because I wasn't able to finish the video because of that
Hey man, Just finished the RE and SH full length videos and you've been the best reviews I've seen. Both series mean so much to me and love your perspective on them. Keep on creating.
So I've been binge watching your videos for the past week or so and noticed your voice sounded familiar. Then you said your name was Jared and you lived in Miami, I saw your Twitter page and it hit me. You went to highschool with me. I was still a little unsure since I couldn't find you in any year book, but before I started thinking I was in a weird silent hill situation I showed your picture to Maria. At first she didn't recognize you, then I told her to picture you without the beard and with long blondish brown hair in a ponytail. She then immediately said "That's Jared! I was in math class with him!" What's up, this is Kris we were in chess together, used to talk about music and stuff.
Totally normal! Just regular, fall fog that you shouldn't concern yourself with! I'm already in it and it's great! We're coming for you next--er, I mean, in the fun way!
@@johnnybensonitis7853 Alright I just hope it's not like last time. I had to come to terms with some very haunting memories. Won't be doing that again!
@@brawnagemage Well, making memories is never a bad thing as I always say! Never to late to come back for another family-friendly adventure! We welcome people of all ages from all walks of life and our only requirement for entry is that you are filled with plenty of blood! Come cool off a spell in our environmentally friendly fog and bring all your delicious aquaintances NOW! The Night Of The Blood Sacrifice is a real hoot and we'd be honored to have you for dinner!
I enjoyed Room for it's own merits. Changes within the room were creepy and it felt claustrophobic. It had some originality and was memorable, so i enjoyed it at the time
@@AvalancheReviews Yes, I think the assessment was balanced and fair. You always articulate your points well and I appreciate the time you take to consider alternative perspectives and provide nuance. It's rare and is a real strength of your content!! Thank you for all the time and thought you put in to the content. I will say that back in the day we made huge allowances for technical limitations and strange design decisions which perhaps wouldn't be tolerated today. It seemed games were less sanitised, play tested and hermogenised on the whole. Combine with this less access to information, lower quality of life expectations and more free time and I think you definitely could say that as young gamers we were less discerning and more forgiving. Ideosyncratic design decisions and wild departures from preceding entries in a series were an expected feature of enduring, narrative-driven franchises and japanese game design. Metal Gear, Final Fantasy and Resi are also good examples. Arbitrary barriers and repetition to increase length, immersion breaks to ease technical issues, unexplained mechanics, strange controls and glaring bugs were all quite commonplace in the era where 3d game worlds were really driven forward and standardised. I would bang my head against a brick wall regularly and sometimes gleefully, in pursuit of completing a game and seeing the ending to a story. It is not to say that your critiques aren't all valid and astute, simply that l these years later I do not remember many of the frustrations and shortcomings! i only remember the aforementioned tone, design decisions which I perceived as bold at the time and key story beats which were engaging and impactful. Not sure I'd enjoy or play it now. Just thought elaborating on that perspective might be interesting for you or other comment readers 👍
@@AvalancheReviewsi think one of the biggest problems with the room is just how jank the enemies especially the ghosts can be. The limited inventory i dont think adds much to a silent hill game either. I would have at least done unlimited key items. Though it did have some interesting puzzles involving doing things in your room to affect the outside areas.
@Meme Man really? That’s super common, it’s actually what I’m doing right now. I’ll be out like a light in 20 minutes or so, and this will still be playing in the background by the time I wake up. Falling asleep to survival horror let’s play videos is another good one, all the scary noises/ music/ exposition will definitely color your dreams in a different hue lol
woke up feeling ill, still feeling it six hours later. time to Hill & Chill. edit: every time this comment gets liked i end up re-watching the whole video. send help. edit 2: this video has become my go-to for soothing background noise while i draw or game.
I didn't notice this when I watched the solo sh1 video. At 3:05 Jared says something about how the team went for a more subtle type of horror as opposed to more visceral. Akira walks in wearing the most terrifying pants I've ever seen. That is true horror.
I'm currently marathoning the series. I gotta say I hated 4. I think Shattered Memories blows it out of the water, and I'm only halfway through Origins atm but so far I prefer it in almost every way over 4. No disrespect intended, I'm just left feeling frustrated because 4 was the one I was most looking forward to.
@@ty1298 I'm currently playing 4 but I'm finding it hard to want to pick up the controller and continue as the gameplay has been the most frustrating, even more so than the shattered memories chases. It's the prolonged escort backtracking and that annoying shooter I can't seem to avoid being damaged by that have me questioning if I want to finish. I found that I was just trying to push through until I can finally get some more story.
@@cdawg9218 I know, it's a chore isn't it? Personally I didn't even like the story.I feel like the room concept had so much more potential but it was too convoluted to spark intrigue in me. Plus Henry sucks.
Origins is better than 4. I love how travis slowly unlocks pieces of himself that has tormented him like traumas from his childhood. Shattered memories however is for me one of the best. I just didn't like the lack of combat but it brings a creative approach to the game like the psychological profiling. Also I cried at the end of the game, when we found it was Cheryl's coping mechanism and trauma and there were no real manifestations. Kinda resembles the story of "tales of two sisters" if you've watched that amazing korean horror. What I didn't like about sh4 is it actually deviates from what sh was for the protagonist. It revolves on walter's nightmare instead of Henry. Henry was kinda like dragged into someone's nightmare. Isnt sh is a place where protagonist punish themselves where manifestations taken place out of their nightmares.
@@mysterycharm03 While I agree that Origins was a better game, its story really fizzles out at the end. Travis is confronted by his most traumatizing memory and then.... happily ever after? I don't mind that 4 focuses on the antagonist's psyche. Being dragged into a serial killer's mind sounds scary too but Henry's non-reactions undermine everything the story does well. I also love SM, the ending blew my mind the first time. I'd need to play it again as it's been about a decade but it might be my favorite Silent Hill game.
Walter and his acts are briefly explained in SH2, though it's possible to miss this information. Dahlia's involvement is also explained in SH4 through little Walter's writings. The thing is, Dahlia was using Walter's naivety and devotion as the original plan to rebirth "God"; the plan to use Alessa came after, but she continued to sow both ideas as a contingency. This idea fits with the ghostly manifestation sequence in SH1, when Dahlia is trying to convince Alessa to 'help' her by taking some of her power. The place that manifests as Walter's world is very similar to the small chamber that Alessa manifested during one of Harry's conversations with Lisa. Remember that the structures in Walter's nightmare world do not perfectly mirror the real world, hence their bizarre and elaborate design. It is quite confusing to piece all the relevant ideas together, but the folks at Twin Perfect did it quite well: ruclips.net/video/zNmZCOmZ040/видео.html In summary, although SH4 is quite different to the first 3 games, it is more closely tied to them than is apparent at first.
Speaking of the music and sound effects. I actually do listen to it to sleep better. I've always found it comforting for some reason. Am I the only one?
deff some good sound design. i find the scarier sounds to be quite interesting. always found the lakeview hotel (otherworld) music in sh2 after james watches the tape to be very disturbing
Im glad to see resident evil revisiting some of its older titles the 2 and 4 remakes were quite excellent. They sadly dropped the ball for nemesis. I think just giving nemesis the same ai patterns as Mr. X would have been better than the 99% scripted nonsense we got. There was i think one point in the whole game where you actually had open gameplay running away from nemesis and you could literally kill him with a single grenade. Mr. X was way tougher to take down making it clear your supposed to run away. Nemesis goes down like a bitch so easily without even using unlimited ammo weapons.
@@mwperk02 RE3 is just the worst of the original series and people remember it as being better than it was. They did the exact same thing when remaking 3 that they did when remaking 2/4. Nemesis was always scripted. 3 was always the shortest game in the series, and was ultimately a side project that they slapped the number 3 onto. For some reason, people only noticed when playing the remake and not when playing the actual game. If they remade Code Veronica instead, it would've satisfied a lot more people, because it's a better game (and the actual RE3)
I think SH3 has a very feminine tone to it in the themes of unwanted pregnancy, the imagery in both otherworld and reality and ofc the charachter SH4 is far more personal to me having lived in true social isolation in an apartment for some years of my life it really struck a chord and brough out some feefees I hadn't felt in a long time, SH2 while being excellent I didn't find anyone to be relatable
Please don't stop making such videos. Their actually comfort videos for me... I always look them when I need something calm and comforting. And I don't know what it is about these videos but it's there. And they have a perfect length. Sometimes there even on while I'm asleep
Have you played lost in vivo, cry of fear or any similiar modern indie horror games? There's a lot of reaaaaaally good silent hill-esque art out there nowadays
Cue me cheering IRL and wholeheartedly agreeing with everything said on sh3 It is my all time fave from the series and I can hardly think of another game I can play over 5 times like I did this one
Ever since I first laid eyes on your Max Payne retrospective, I've become obsessed with every other retrospective you've made; Silent Hill being my favorite you've done. I'm seriously so stoked for more of the work you put out for the Dead Space series, and any other pieces of work you make in the future.
I didnt think it was that bad. Like, yes, obviously it's a far inferior version. And they messed it up. But since all I have is xbox, it was my only option. And I still enjoyed it and found it worth playing.
@@karenamyx2205 yeah it's good to have those different versions even if they aren't perfect. many new fans that might not ever have tried the original versions and will make them want to seek it out
@@karenamyx2205 It's just upsetting that they didn't get it right, and was a symptom of many of Konami's problems that lead it down the dark and profitable path of Pachinko. Before Sony saved them from themselves.
@@PinkManGuy it just seems so unnecessary too. Like.. you could have gotten it right. You should have. But oh well. Like I said.. I still play it. And nothing horrible happens to me for doing so! Lol
Come on! Those ads aren't gonna watch themselves. HA! Glad I make videos people like watching. I go to sleep to collections like this, so I'm trying to give back a little bit.
@@AvalancheReviews Maybe this time you can give us timestamps of the music played in the vid for each game? :) (even if i am writing this comment 3 days later lol)
SH 3 is the best game in the series. The story about a girl finding herself and becoming an adult, seeing the inner Alessa come out at times when she gets angry, the hidden weapons, the secrets you get only if you have a SH2 save file on your memory card. The game’s perfect.
Silent Hill 2 is heads and tales above any other Silent Hill or even any other horror game ever. I like how it doesn't explore Silent Hill directly like SH3, but instead indirectly through the character's stories and what Silent Hill is doing to them. The particular allegories use in SH2 also struck a chord with me. Don't get me wrong; I loved Silent Hill 1, 3, and even 4, but Silent Hill 2 was my favorite and in a league of its own. Like Dostoevsky's 1865 epic Crime and Punishment, which is my favorite novel, it delves deep into the main character's psyche. Jacobs Ladder is the only other piece of media that does something similar.
@@angramainyu2026 i don’t get why the American Audience think that the Cult inside Silent Hill is nonsense. I mean in SH1 it wasn’t done completely right, but the concept of the order and the way it’s expanded in 3 and 4 is actually very compelling. It’s surely a better explanation about the city’s nature than the Silent Hill is a Tough Love therapist shtick.
SH2 is simultaneously a good game and the game that ruined the series, especially once western developers took over and just wanted to emulate it without understanding the basic ideas behind the games. The cult stuff in the game is one of the most interesting parts. There's some subtext to the Japanese being interested in malevolent cults- in 1995 a cult committed a nerve gas attack against a subway in Japan. It also has a deep history in Western horror, especially via Lovecraft.
I was waiting on the review of 4, my favorite, and even with you not liking it I still loved your review and how you tried giving positives even for the ones you didn’t like. And this inspired me to want to revisit the entire series now, great video and thanks for all your hard work!
I enjoyed the 4th game , I tend to look at silent hill from lovecraftian horror standpoint so the wormholes and dream world aspects make sense when u look at it from that sub genre of horror the feelings of isolation the game pushes, and instead of a main story title it wouldve worked better as a spin off as originally intended
Me: I've see all these already... Jared: yeah, but now its one video. Me: Wellll I am applying for jobs and could use background stuff...I could watch it a few times XD
Perfect. The leaves are starting to turn different colours, there's a crisp chill to the air, and that feeling that something unexpected might happen. It's October, and a perfect time to watch this retrospective while embracing that weird and spooky time of year.
SH1 was good. When I played it I was in my early teens and it just didn't have a chance to connect as well as with later entries. SH2 I loved how tragic all the characters' fate is. Angela's breathing room and that whole area scare me too much and I just hesitate to replay that part. SH3 is the bomb. It's my fave and I liked the gameplay more. I'm still traumatized by the mirror room, and the laughing picture on top of the ladder * SHUDDERS. * SH4 I enjoyed quite a bit until about halfway when they just make you backtrack the whole game. It also felt rushed as the graphics felt like a step back. The Room and mechanics weren't too bad tho. The best part is that it felt fresh compared to the rest of the entries so far. I played the first ps3 silent hill until about halfway and lost interested. Never bothered with any other SH game. I heard the SH1 remake is good, but somehow the lack of guns bothered me and I never played it. One of the saddest things EVER was PT getting cancelled. Still hurts to this day. Screw Konami.
2&3 have always been my favs. They're both so good for different reasons I couldn't pick one over the other. The scenes in 3 with the phone calls and the discussion with the psyc in the library though, perfect 👌🏻
Ok please can we take a minute to praise SH1 camera system?? I mean... It's a combination between fixed and dynamic camera and even when it's on fixed position it moves and follows the character across the room and the result is just so beautiful and cinematic! Something that many games lack nowadays... Over the shoulder view is sure good and functional but far to be artistic and creative. I still remember how I felt the first time I ever entered that alley at the beginning of the game with those twisted camera angles and how insane it looks and still does! So impressive how the ps1 handled those things back in the day.
Firstly I want to say as a SH fan since the ps1 days, watching your retrospectives was a pure delight. I wanted to get a couple of thoughts out after your video. SH3 absolutely touched my soul in the way you felt for it. I was fortunate to have waited to play SH2 until recently. So my experience at first was playing 1 and 3 in that order. And wow what a pairing those games were. The other thing I wanted to say was in regards to the noise effect the series had. Until I watched you're videos I've always kept them on as I felt it was an effect team silent left to convey the almost molecular decay of being in/near the other world. I now see after all this time it does look better with it off but I thought youd like to know how I at least perceived the meaning of that artistic choice whether it's right or wrong. Anyway keep up the great content amigo!
To me the first one is the best, the weird camera angles, the pixelated psx graphics, the dirty, noisy and in some parts violent music, i played the shit out of this game as a kid, this is one of those few games that really makes you feel an unique experience, something that no other game will replicate ever, if they ever do a remaster i hope they focus on the cgi look and just do it the exact same way but with better animations and lights fx
Wether you read comments on older vids or not, thank you for making this. While I’m heavily attached to SH2, like you said, it couldn’t be possible without SH1. The world of SH itself is so strange and unsettling, but so very alluring to me as well. Thank you, again, for speaking about the series. I appreciate the effort it took to make this. Maybe someday we can all revisit Silent Hill in another sequel. Perhaps not, but there’s always hope for a solid rebirth of a great series.
I enjoyed the hell out of Homecoming when i first played it. I was obsessed w/ SH2 and 3 when they came out and I thought it fell right in line with those. That said, i never cared about the stories in any. I love the tone and gameplay.
I wish homecoming completely dropped its focus on combat and leaned more into atmosphere and dread, where running and hiding from the monsters was best and fighting them is the only approach when back into a corner. I didn't care for the game's story at all but the exploration, locales and slow paced build ups were highlights of the game for me.
Silent hill has always been a franchise near and dear to my heart for many reasons people have shared in various ways. But this video has kept me company on lonely trips to and from work for about a week and a half now. And getting to the part at the end when you said "the very last entry" and then at the beginning of PT "that little town off of Toluca Lake" I couldn't help but tear up a little. I've definitely found a new interest in your channel and will be watching more videos, but I'll miss how each intro felt almost like a tour guide, or visiting a friend I never quite got to see frequently enough. I've also decided to replay these games as I never played past 3, so thank you for reigniting that spark in my heart for this foggy little tourist destination ❤️
Dude, like thank you! You’re doing excellent work. Is crazy how much we think alike especially SH3. What got me more invested in the game is heathers taught everything she saves her progress. How she knew at some point she was failing and she got another opportunity when you lose and reload your save date.
I really enjoy that you go into detail about how these old games render. Very few reviewers have the knowledge or ability to describe the way a game renders / upscales between versions and consoles. Knowing next to nothing about graphics or rendering, it's great hearing you explain it all in a way that even a fool like myself can understand.
I have never played a Silent Hill game, I found you through your Suffering review, and realized how awesome it was to listen to you while I work. This "short" video will occupy my workday perfectly and I appreciate you for making it!
I really look for good clear voicing for long analysis videos, and yours is excellent and well paced. Great content and now I know a LOT more about silent hill!
Absolutely love this compilation. I enjoyed every minute of this video... keep doing what you're doing my dude, and thanks a bunch for the entertainment.
I think you were a bit too harsh/biased about SH4. IMO The Room has some of the most interesting monster design, and was waay scarier than the first three. The sense of isolation and claustrophobia you feel in the apartment and the surreal setting you find yourself in shouldn't be undersold. Other than that, I agree with most of your perspectives. Enjoyed the video
Idk... I found it not as engaging as the first 3 and I'm considering not going back to finish it due to the long escort mission that I'm currently stuck in. I want to finish it for the story but I've definitely not been enjoying the actual gameplay as much.
I may be weird but I'm like a clasutrophile. I'm very comfortable in small places, it means I'm safe from attack as I have 4 walls close around me. Now if you threw in a monster in that room with me, that would definitely suck, but generally I find it comfortable. And while I'm not afraid of wide opens areas, if I was going to be afraid of something, being alone in a mansion makes more sense to me than a small studio apartment.
@@sonja9813 Well when you add the chained in part sure. I'm just saying stick me alone in a 1 bed room apartment or a enormous gothic castle, I'll take the apartment.
Which monsters were interesting? The apes with testicles on their foreheads? The dogs? The oversized mosquito stirge things? The Marilyn Manson Nurse things that burp when you hit them? The Toadstools? The only monster I found interesting (at all) in SH4 were the two-headed baby things.
Great reviews man, but why are even auto-generated subs unavailable? I like to watch these when going to sleep on barely audible. Is that something you can turn on or is it maybe disabled due to the length?
Walter Sullivan was actually mentioned in a newspaper article in Silent Hill 2, not to mention that the orphanage in the forest is in Silent Hill and right by Toluca Lake
The fact that pyramid head and the nurses made it into other silent hill games shows that the developers that took over the series after 4 didn’t at all comprehend the story of SH 1-3. It’s such a shame because the first three games are absolute masterpieces. SH has been dead since Konami split up Team silent.
This is my favorite series in the world, thank you so much for delivering such a thorough dive into it. I really can't get enough of Silent Hill, from the visuals and music to the themes and characters, and I love that it's touched other people's lives in a similar way.
This was the first real game series I was exposed to after meeting my fiance, because I didn't get to play games as a kid, and I have to say it is definitely still my number 1 fave. I love hearing your perspective on it :)
Silent Hill: Downpour was, regretfully, my first game in the series. We owned a ps2 but never a SH game. It has a weird place in my heart, I both loved and hated it. I loved the horror aspects o the game, I remember loving that theater scene where you but on a play as a stage tech; I hated the graphics and general visual presentation and basically everything else about it. It kind of tainted all of SH for me and I never understood the praise the series got. After watching your SH videos I understand. Thank you
Downpour has actually a potential for me. The story line, the exploration, the ambience except from the few game bugs. I didn't like homecoming. The plot about the order and shepherd's glenn is really obnoxious.
I'm one of those who loves Downpour a lot. What's crazy is I totally agree with almost all of the issues people mention about the game but something about it just clicks for me, even more so after replaying it recently. It had a great story and some genuinely freaky moments that scared the hell out of me like a certain basement or a certain sewer system found in the game as side objectives which are where the game is at its most creative for me. I also enjoyed how running away and combat with enemies could be equally difficult and while most of the monster designs suck, I adore the weeping bat in both design and function, that's an SH monster I'd love to see return - I also love the simple design of the boogeyman too. But for sure, this being your first experience must have been rough because of its many problems.
I always hated the "It would be a better received game if it wasn't named in the X series" because Deadly Premonition gets shit on for not being titled "Twin Peaks: a game adaptation"
True story, Silent Hill holds the coveted title of being the first, last, and only video game to genuinely scare me. I was about 12 years old, we got a demo disk in a video game magazine that had the playable demo on it, I popped it in thinking I was hot shit, and the part where you go down the dark alleyway by lighter light and the Gray Children suddenly come slinking out of the shadows scared me so fucking bad that I dropped the controller and actually ran from the room. Plenty of games have gotten me with jumpscares, or made me too tense to want to round a corner or go into a room, but I was too scared to even attempt to play Silent Hill for quite some time. To this day I get anxious at that part because it takes me back to a moment of feral fear from my childhood. Goddamn that game is a masterpiece. I'd played tons of horror games and movies, like I loved (and still do love) the Resident Evil series, but I'd just never experienced the kind of horror this game series uses. I even still have the demo disk. Official US Magazine Disk 16, January 1999, has playable demos of Silent Hill, Brave Fencer Musashi, Moto Racer 2, Apocalypse, and Tai Fu lol.
The thing about "Every game is just Silent Hill 2" is due to the fact that, 1 and 3 are a complete arc, with nothing to add, there is no motive to go back to that scenario, but 2 showed that, yes, there is a thing for tortured souls in a ghost town, it trying at least to not go to Resident evil vibe of "there is only 4 protagonists that are used to infinitum"
I started playing Silent Hill 1 on my PSP through download from my PS3 and my GOD I fell in love with this games world I have dreams where I'm in a room and I jump down a hole to then end up in a completely different and non related room...maybe it's because I have depression haha honestly idk what causes me to have such dreams...that aside I love your channel and I love this video....huhhhhh I feel so at home in silent hill games it feels like I'm playing a video game version of my dreams 😄👍🏻
It had a big effect on me when I first played it too. I think SH just challenges players so much more than your average game. It asks a lot of questions and doesn't always answer them. Very unique and special this series.
Yes indeed and that's why a lot of people play this game series well except for the PS3 silent hill games they had a chance but the other game developers just had no clue on what they were doing with the SH series when making them....sighhh I wish the original Team Silent came back together one last time to make another Silent Hill using today's graphics 👍🏻
I think they try to ape so much on Silent Hill 2 is because it was the most popular, critically praised and even best selling game in the franchise at the time. Not only that, but it set the ground rules for the city, and it's corruptive influence. That if you have inner demons and issues, the darker they are, the more the city will manifest to haunt you. While if you're pure or have few inner demons, the city will just be a barren town. Which is why most of the main cast of Silent Hill 2 saw creatures or figments tailor made to torment them (James' sexual desire in the beasts and Pyramid Head the punisher, the fat guy saying all he sees are people making fun of him and laughing, and Angela saw a city in flames her dad everywhere) Laura, the little girl, saw nothing at all. James is even drawn into the Angela's fight against her father before she gives her soul to the city's demons by ascending the stair case. Games 1 and 3 were their own story line and damn good games, but they were about finally destroying the cult and removing the demon's corruption from Heather, the town however still remains curse and corrupted from years of cult activity, growing more powerful as more deaths are added. Using game 2 as a template just makes sense since it set everything up nicely, such as many slasher horror movies do, a set of rules and ideas to follow. I personally enjoyed all the games for what they were, despite the varying level of "Silent Hill" each game was. I still need to play book and origins sadly.
Number one argument in favor of fixed cameras is that they offer the most cinematic experience. Oh, and they help the developers tailor the experience.
Thank you for this. Im a huge silent hill fan and ive been listening to this on the way to work and at different times throughout the day like episodes. Proud of the work you do sir!
"I hope everyone involved in the SH HD collection never finds work in the industry again" That's...kind of harsh. I'm sure some people involved tried their best.
And as someone who played SH2 and 3 on the ps2 as a kid, the HD collection is honestly not THAT bad, if you were to play it with no prior experience in either game you wouldn’t notice the problems
Yeah no. They did an aweful job and ruined the remaster IMO I did t know how sloppy they were with the scenery and shadows and glitches that’s what ruined it for me :( I hope that hey never get hold of 1 & 4. I hope a good reparable company gets ahold of those remakes or remasters. I can’t even play hd collections. I have to go back to the originals because the lagging and scenes are so bad 😞
@@dougdynamo8990 As someone who played SH2 and 3 on the PS2 as a kid in the early 2000s and also within the past 4 months. No, you're incorrect. A psychoanalyst with proper context for this situation would question your sanity. You're downplaying game-ruining glitches, the awful and generic mumblecore-tier new voice acting that it defaults to on SH2 and is the only option for SH3, script rewrites that are one step away from creating fanfiction, etc. And to suggest having no prior experience with the original versions would somehow allow you to "ignore" the rampant framerate and screen tearing issues on what is a a *PS2* *port* (games you can, with very little work, get running perfectly via emulation on a tablet or jailbroken 3DS) is ludicrous. If you played the HD Collection with no prior Silent Hill experience, you would literally be confused as to why all the old school fans mention fog so much, because they fucked up the fucking fog in both those "remasters".
Oh, he said that? What an awful person. Time to never watch anything by him again. Donna Burke voiced Angela. She sang Sins of the Father in MGS 5. She's incredible. But, you know, I don't like it so I hope you become destitute.
Wow I'm only 1min and 20 seconds in and you get a thumbs up for having such a great into, "the trees, fog in the air from your breath, kick around the debris" just great listening to you say that or something to that effect really put me there in that town and I am ready to join you on this up close and personal trip down memory lane. I have never played these games but love watch people explain games that they love so much because the passion is infectious. Thank you👍😊
Seriously man I've just discovered your channel a couple days ago but it was an instant sub I'm trying to binge everything and share some of your vids on the socials. You Seriously put so much work and effort into your videos. Thank you man seriously. I'm glad I am able to spend some time of my life watching you.
3 was also my favorite in the series. It was the first SH that I really sunk my teeth into at the tender age of eight. Not the first I played, but the first I really tore into. My god, what an incredible experience.
being a teenage girl playing sh3 was a feeling I don't think I'll ever be able to replicate lol it's my favorite for many other reasons, but that's just something that makes it extra nostalgic
2:28:06 if anyone gets frustrated about this remember, just because Silent Hill 4 didn’t start as a Silent Hill game doesn’t mean it’s any less of a silent hill game than 1-3. “Start” is petty vague and considering the fact that Walter is the main villain and he was mentioned in Silent Hill 2 and “The Twin Victim” enemy is in reference to said article about Walter in SH2. That’s a lot of stuff to change last minute.(which a lot of videos on SH4 tend to imply that it was a last minute name change) All I’m trying to say is, don’t get mad and if you did, SH4 didn’t START as an SH game but it became one because of money and maybe they decided it would fit the story who knows really all that matters is it’s cool and Henry is goofy!
I really like your thoughts on Homecoming, though I have to say that the way I understood it all these years was that the core theme was generational trauma. We see three generations of these families, its impact on each of them and a sense of how it affected each family. At least, I think that was what they were going for. I am biased because I really liked Alex as a character (maybe being female put a bit more distance between me and him?) and what they showed us through his home, but I had also invested in and enjoyed the pre-release materials about his ‘military service’. It sucks having a 6 or a 7/10 game when those before it were more like 10s and 9s. When it’s not bad but it’s not -great-. I really loved it though, regardless of everything. Tangentially related, but around the same time- the way RE5 had been marketed, I’d expected that to be more of a psychological bent considering how much effort they went through to show Chris being traumatised as hell but then… well. We all know what we got.
I was a small kid when I got PS1 as a gift from my uncle. Now I am 27 and I know him much better. He doesn't know English and games need to be simple. While he enjoys games he isn't into anything specific like Resident Evil, Silent Hill and etc. He just plays games and I don't think he cares about stuff like story and some games are in English so he wouldn't even understand much of it. So when I got his used PS1 I received around 25 games on original CD's too. For a guy that just plays games I must say he picked some great games. Silent Hill, Fighting Force 2, Syphon Filter 2, Grand Turismo, Blade, Metal Gear, Dino Crisis 2, Tomb Raider 2, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2, Die Hard trilogy, Medal of Honor and etc. I am honestly amazed a person like this picked so many amazing games. Even if he doesn't understand the importance of these games and how amazing they were I have huge respect for him because he gave pretty much best games out there to a kid. As a kid I couldn't play Silent Hill honestly. That dream part is burned into my mind and after a flying raptor monster attacked the dinner I was like "nope, time to play something else". I had 0 experience with horror games so playing something so horrifying and oppressive is honestly a bit too much for a first game. I didn't have a PS2 but same thing happened and I got used PC as a gift with same amount of games for it. Once again so many fucking great games... Morrowind, Vietcong, Ghost Recon and etc... I emulated good amount of PS2 games but never could get in into Silent Hill games. Controls and gameplay were just not for me. Years later I watched playtroughs of these games, read lore and etc. These games aren't fun to play but god damn are they interesting to watch and learn about. First 3 games are fascinating and amazing. I understand SH2 is a spin off but it's just better. Like SH2 and SH3 are both amazing games but there are couple things that just push SH2 further then SH3. For example were James jumps into multiple pits and visits a room with bunch of dead bodies in the wall. Then after that just jumps again into a pit. There are multiple disturbing places like this. Silent Hill 3 has stuff like this too but it continues the theme of SH1 which has been seen before. Cult stuff is probably the weakest thing in Silent Hill games because it's not interesting. Silent Hill 2 even has a better "joke" ending. Just look at that dog ending and finish watching credits it's fucking hilarious.
I swear Silent Hill Homecoming is my guilty pleasure of this series. I will freely admit its flaws but its like this wierd time capsule of both horror gaming and movies of the time and it does it pretty shamelessly. That and the first time I played this was a wierd all nighter and the hell descent sequence before the doll boss still hits me every time because of it.
Got my sub within the first 10 minutes! Excellent combination of fact, story telling, and comedy. Well done! Love these long form videos as background noise, and I wind up watching them more than once. Looking forward to what you do next!!
I told my gf I was going to watch a RUclips vid before doing the dishes lol
HAAAAA! Best comment on this video so far!
Best comment goes to...
I'm watching WHILE doing the dishes, I guess you have no excuse hahahaha
@@s2alininhavarella straight up my friend
never told her which video hehehe
Sure, I can spare a minute or two
I got 3 minutes, so I could probably finish it in time.
Or about 640.
Yes yes yes
YOOOO, you should make Silent Hill content.
Oh, hello, mate :D
"Skip to this timestamp to avoid spoilers: 7:24."
Dude that was four hours ago, lol.
Yeah none of these are accurate except the first one
@@AidanDrotzur-uz5szit's because it's multiple videos stitched together
@@axios525 no excuse, he could've done further edits to make it work but I guess he's either lazy or doesn't care about spoiling his viewers, it's a shame because I wasn't able to finish the video because of that
Or you could look up a spoilerfree review rather than a 6 hour video reviewing the entire series@@AidanDrotzur-uz5sz
@@AidanDrotzur-uz5szman he isn’t lazy he probably didn’t notice, there’s no need to be bitter. :)
Sees 6 hour long video:
Hell yeah, I too play videogame.
I too play videogame
I too play video game
punks not dead!
in Soviet Union videogame play you.
Internet culture in a nutshell
Vid’ya gud.
"30 - 40 minutes is a long time to sit on youtube" laughs in watching this video in one shot
Ha! I appreciate the commitment.
@@AvalancheReviews I spend hours on RUclips listening to music and game related shit and comedy
@@davidkay1948 Feels like i spend years.
Mandatory comment about trying to hit that ten minute mark.
Oh hey, it's my other favorite horror game reviewer/video essay guy
Hey man, Just finished the RE and SH full length videos and you've been the best reviews I've seen. Both series mean so much to me and love your perspective on them. Keep on creating.
Thanks so much!!! I hope I keep making content worthy of your support.
So I've been binge watching your videos for the past week or so and noticed your voice sounded familiar. Then you said your name was Jared and you lived in Miami, I saw your Twitter page and it hit me. You went to highschool with me.
I was still a little unsure since I couldn't find you in any year book, but before I started thinking I was in a weird silent hill situation I showed your picture to Maria. At first she didn't recognize you, then I told her to picture you without the beard and with long blondish brown hair in a ponytail. She then immediately said "That's Jared! I was in math class with him!"
What's up, this is Kris we were in chess together, used to talk about music and stuff.
Woah thats cool, im commenting to see Jared's response lol
Word. That's wassup. It's a small world, I tell ya.
Meow
small world indeed
I can't get over how crazy it is that someone from my old high school found me through these videos! Us FL fools need to stick together.
Idk why but I always enjoy these long series critiques. The longer the better
Glad you feel that way because these videos keep getting longer and longer.
so disappointed - 3 years in and not a single 'that's what she said!'
Awesome! Something epic to watch while I move to my new home! That's some weird fog rolling up though....
Totally normal! Just regular, fall fog that you shouldn't concern yourself with! I'm already in it and it's great! We're coming for you next--er, I mean, in the fun way!
@@johnnybensonitis7853 Alright I just hope it's not like last time. I had to come to terms with some very haunting memories. Won't be doing that again!
RUN!!!!!!!!!!
@@brawnagemage Well, making memories is never a bad thing as I always say! Never to late to come back for another family-friendly adventure! We welcome people of all ages from all walks of life and our only requirement for entry is that you are filled with plenty of blood! Come cool off a spell in our environmentally friendly fog and bring all your delicious aquaintances NOW! The Night Of The Blood Sacrifice is a real hoot and we'd be honored to have you for dinner!
i like this comment thread because knowing silent hill random whacky nonsense stuffs it can pull on a person, this kind of interaction is possible
I enjoyed Room for it's own merits. Changes within the room were creepy and it felt claustrophobic. It had some originality and was memorable, so i enjoyed it at the time
I enjoy a lot of aspects about it today. I just wish we would have gotten something more like 1, 2 or 3.
@@AvalancheReviews Yes, I think the assessment was balanced and fair. You always articulate your points well and I appreciate the time you take to consider alternative perspectives and provide nuance. It's rare and is a real strength of your content!! Thank you for all the time and thought you put in to the content.
I will say that back in the day we made huge allowances for technical limitations and strange design decisions which perhaps wouldn't be tolerated today. It seemed games were less sanitised, play tested and hermogenised on the whole. Combine with this less access to information, lower quality of life expectations and more free time and I think you definitely could say that as young gamers we were less discerning and more forgiving. Ideosyncratic design decisions and wild departures from preceding entries in a series were an expected feature of enduring, narrative-driven franchises and japanese game design. Metal Gear, Final Fantasy and Resi are also good examples.
Arbitrary barriers and repetition to increase length, immersion breaks to ease technical issues, unexplained mechanics, strange controls and glaring bugs were all quite commonplace in the era where 3d game worlds were really driven forward and standardised. I would bang my head against a brick wall regularly and sometimes gleefully, in pursuit of completing a game and seeing the ending to a story.
It is not to say that your critiques aren't all valid and astute, simply that l these years later I do not remember many of the frustrations and shortcomings! i only remember the aforementioned tone, design decisions which I perceived as bold at the time and key story beats which were engaging and impactful.
Not sure I'd enjoy or play it now. Just thought elaborating on that perspective might be interesting for you or other comment readers 👍
@@AvalancheReviewsi think one of the biggest problems with the room is just how jank the enemies especially the ghosts can be. The limited inventory i dont think adds much to a silent hill game either. I would have at least done unlimited key items. Though it did have some interesting puzzles involving doing things in your room to affect the outside areas.
I can only imagine the effort and time you put into this. Thank you
It's my pleasure. I go to sleep to stuff like this, so i figure I would give back a little bit.
@Meme Man really? That’s super common, it’s actually what I’m doing right now. I’ll be out like a light in 20 minutes or so, and this will still be playing in the background by the time I wake up. Falling asleep to survival horror let’s play videos is another good one, all the scary noises/ music/ exposition will definitely color your dreams in a different hue lol
@@AvalancheReviews Oh yeah I also use this trick to fall asl...
woke up feeling ill, still feeling it six hours later. time to Hill & Chill.
edit: every time this comment gets liked i end up re-watching the whole video. send help.
edit 2: this video has become my go-to for soothing background noise while i draw or game.
My apologies.
There is no escape
i wouldn't have it any other way
You're up to 23.3 days of this video
you're welcome
I didn't notice this when I watched the solo sh1 video. At 3:05 Jared says something about how the team went for a more subtle type of horror as opposed to more visceral. Akira walks in wearing the most terrifying pants I've ever seen. That is true horror.
Lmao I said the same thing to myself watching the documentaries. I was like “damn Akira, I dunno about those pants at work”
He workin those pants fer sher
lol genius
the character models in Silent Hill 3 and 4 are still super impressive to me to this day, especially the faces
Silent Hill 4 is the last true Silent Hill game out there and have one the best story in the series.
I'm currently marathoning the series. I gotta say I hated 4. I think Shattered Memories blows it out of the water, and I'm only halfway through Origins atm but so far I prefer it in almost every way over 4. No disrespect intended, I'm just left feeling frustrated because 4 was the one I was most looking forward to.
@@ty1298 I'm currently playing 4 but I'm finding it hard to want to pick up the controller and continue as the gameplay has been the most frustrating, even more so than the shattered memories chases. It's the prolonged escort backtracking and that annoying shooter I can't seem to avoid being damaged by that have me questioning if I want to finish. I found that I was just trying to push through until I can finally get some more story.
@@cdawg9218 I know, it's a chore isn't it? Personally I didn't even like the story.I feel like the room concept had so much more potential but it was too convoluted to spark intrigue in me. Plus Henry sucks.
Origins is better than 4. I love how travis slowly unlocks pieces of himself that has tormented him like traumas from his childhood. Shattered memories however is for me one of the best. I just didn't like the lack of combat but it brings a creative approach to the game like the psychological profiling. Also I cried at the end of the game, when we found it was Cheryl's coping mechanism and trauma and there were no real manifestations. Kinda resembles the story of "tales of two sisters" if you've watched that amazing korean horror. What I didn't like about sh4 is it actually deviates from what sh was for the protagonist. It revolves on walter's nightmare instead of Henry. Henry was kinda like dragged into someone's nightmare. Isnt sh is a place where protagonist punish themselves where manifestations taken place out of their nightmares.
@@mysterycharm03 While I agree that Origins was a better game, its story really fizzles out at the end. Travis is confronted by his most traumatizing memory and then.... happily ever after? I don't mind that 4 focuses on the antagonist's psyche. Being dragged into a serial killer's mind sounds scary too but Henry's non-reactions undermine everything the story does well. I also love SM, the ending blew my mind the first time. I'd need to play it again as it's been about a decade but it might be my favorite Silent Hill game.
Walter and his acts are briefly explained in SH2, though it's possible to miss this information. Dahlia's involvement is also explained in SH4 through little Walter's writings. The thing is, Dahlia was using Walter's naivety and devotion as the original plan to rebirth "God"; the plan to use Alessa came after, but she continued to sow both ideas as a contingency. This idea fits with the ghostly manifestation sequence in SH1, when Dahlia is trying to convince Alessa to 'help' her by taking some of her power. The place that manifests as Walter's world is very similar to the small chamber that Alessa manifested during one of Harry's conversations with Lisa. Remember that the structures in Walter's nightmare world do not perfectly mirror the real world, hence their bizarre and elaborate design. It is quite confusing to piece all the relevant ideas together, but the folks at Twin Perfect did it quite well: ruclips.net/video/zNmZCOmZ040/видео.html
In summary, although SH4 is quite different to the first 3 games, it is more closely tied to them than is apparent at first.
Finaly found someone as addicted to SH as me.
Thank you. I was wanting to say all this watching the silent hill 4 part lol
Also the apt Henry is in is from the reporter whose papers you find in SH3
I'm a big fan of 4. Obviously not my favorite but I think the way it fits in is fun.
Speaking of the music and sound effects. I actually do listen to it to sleep better. I've always found it comforting for some reason. Am I the only one?
deff some good sound design. i find the scarier sounds to be quite interesting. always found the lakeview hotel (otherworld) music in sh2 after james watches the tape to be very disturbing
I use it to concentrate my thoughts or to enhance my mood during moody weathers ( to make it even moodier)
That moment at the beginning of Resident Evil lives in my brain forever. It's so good. I played it way back on the ps1 and hhhhhhhh it's still amazing
You and me both
Im glad to see resident evil revisiting some of its older titles the 2 and 4 remakes were quite excellent. They sadly dropped the ball for nemesis. I think just giving nemesis the same ai patterns as Mr. X would have been better than the 99% scripted nonsense we got. There was i think one point in the whole game where you actually had open gameplay running away from nemesis and you could literally kill him with a single grenade. Mr. X was way tougher to take down making it clear your supposed to run away. Nemesis goes down like a bitch so easily without even using unlimited ammo weapons.
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RE3 is just the worst of the original series and people remember it as being better than it was.
They did the exact same thing when remaking 3 that they did when remaking 2/4. Nemesis was always scripted. 3 was always the shortest game in the series, and was ultimately a side project that they slapped the number 3 onto. For some reason, people only noticed when playing the remake and not when playing the actual game.
If they remade Code Veronica instead, it would've satisfied a lot more people, because it's a better game (and the actual RE3)
I actually used to fall asleep to Silent Hill's soundtracks, 2's and 3's specifically, theres something hauntingly beautiful about them.
I sleep every night for last, at least 8 years with SH music.
@@Despotez Jesus, you're kidding.... Thats insane lol
@@Crit7k Lol nope :p Look up the SH sleep music video on YT. Its amazing
I'm glad I'm not alone in this lol. Even at the time I understood on some level it being kinda messed up but the ambient tracks are very soothing
@@coreypowless504 Totaly :)
I think SH3 has a very feminine tone to it in the themes of unwanted pregnancy, the imagery in both otherworld and reality and ofc the charachter SH4 is far more personal to me having lived in true social isolation in an apartment for some years of my life it really struck a chord and brough out some feefees I hadn't felt in a long time, SH2 while being excellent I didn't find anyone to be relatable
Fans-“You’ve been with me for so long.”
Silent Hill-“I always will be.”
*freezes away*
Please don't stop making such videos. Their actually comfort videos for me... I always look them when I need something calm and comforting. And I don't know what it is about these videos but it's there. And they have a perfect length. Sometimes there even on while I'm asleep
Well, look forward to more of these because I do not plan on stopping any time soon!
Have you played lost in vivo, cry of fear or any similiar modern indie horror games? There's a lot of reaaaaaally good silent hill-esque art out there nowadays
I did a video on Cry of Fear years and years ago. I really liked it. Never played Lost in Vivo though. Love the low poly look though.
Lost in Vivo was amazing. Closest thing to the old Silent Hill horror feel I've played.
And yet, none of them capture the essence of Silent Hill. Not even close.
@@shawnwolf5961 cry of fears soundtrack is awesome tho.
Lone Survivor is in here for me too!
YESSSSSSSSSSSS - I've been waiting for a video like this for so long, in depth, long analysis videos are my kink
Du kannst ja auch paar Silent Hill games rebeaten :D
hi Rupty ^-^
You’re German, isn’t everything your kink?
You found depth? Where?
@@the-birbo oh, boo, I'm envious of the dedication of other people on the internet, how ever will I survive?
Literally my love language
Cue me cheering IRL and wholeheartedly agreeing with everything said on sh3
It is my all time fave from the series and I can hardly think of another game I can play over 5 times like I did this one
YESSSS!
Ever since I first laid eyes on your Max Payne retrospective, I've become obsessed with every other retrospective you've made; Silent Hill being my favorite you've done. I'm seriously so stoked for more of the work you put out for the Dead Space series, and any other pieces of work you make in the future.
Crazily enough the HD collection was my introduction to silent hill and it’s actually what got me into the franchise as a whole
I didnt think it was that bad. Like, yes, obviously it's a far inferior version. And they messed it up. But since all I have is xbox, it was my only option.
And I still enjoyed it and found it worth playing.
@@karenamyx2205 yeah it's good to have those different versions even if they aren't perfect. many new fans that might not ever have tried the original versions and will make them want to seek it out
@@karenamyx2205 It's just upsetting that they didn't get it right, and was a symptom of many of Konami's problems that lead it down the dark and profitable path of Pachinko. Before Sony saved them from themselves.
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Yeah I agree. Like I said, since I only have xbox, it let me revisit it. Flawed or not, at least I could play.
Fog does bug me tho.. lol
@@PinkManGuy it just seems so unnecessary too. Like.. you could have gotten it right. You should have.
But oh well. Like I said.. I still play it. And nothing horrible happens to me for doing so! Lol
Welp i literally just rewatched most of this series like 2 weeks ago..... time to do it again!
Come on! Those ads aren't gonna watch themselves. HA! Glad I make videos people like watching. I go to sleep to collections like this, so I'm trying to give back a little bit.
@@AvalancheReviews Maybe this time you can give us timestamps of the music played in the vid for each game? :) (even if i am writing this comment 3 days later lol)
SH 3 is the best game in the series. The story about a girl finding herself and becoming an adult, seeing the inner Alessa come out at times when she gets angry, the hidden weapons, the secrets you get only if you have a SH2 save file on your memory card. The game’s perfect.
"seductive cult"
Not even 5 seconds later
"I knew you'd come"
Silent Hill 2 is heads and tales above any other Silent Hill or even any other horror game ever. I like how it doesn't explore Silent Hill directly like SH3, but instead indirectly through the character's stories and what Silent Hill is doing to them. The particular allegories use in SH2 also struck a chord with me. Don't get me wrong; I loved Silent Hill 1, 3, and even 4, but Silent Hill 2 was my favorite and in a league of its own. Like Dostoevsky's 1865 epic Crime and Punishment, which is my favorite novel, it delves deep into the main character's psyche. Jacobs Ladder is the only other piece of media that does something similar.
No. SH1 is the best. Unparralled in oppressive horror and atmosphere.
“To be fair you need a very high IQ to understand silent hill 2”
SH1 was scary to play, but the cult nonsense never scared or interested me.
@@angramainyu2026 i don’t get why the American Audience think that the Cult inside Silent Hill is nonsense. I mean in SH1 it wasn’t done completely right, but the concept of the order and the way it’s expanded in 3 and 4 is actually very compelling. It’s surely a better explanation about the city’s nature than the Silent Hill is a Tough Love therapist shtick.
SH2 is simultaneously a good game and the game that ruined the series, especially once western developers took over and just wanted to emulate it without understanding the basic ideas behind the games.
The cult stuff in the game is one of the most interesting parts. There's some subtext to the Japanese being interested in malevolent cults- in 1995 a cult committed a nerve gas attack against a subway in Japan. It also has a deep history in Western horror, especially via Lovecraft.
Perfect house cleaning noise when I'm not in the mood for 80s and 90s R&B. Thanks again!
I was waiting on the review of 4, my favorite, and even with you not liking it I still loved your review and how you tried giving positives even for the ones you didn’t like.
And this inspired me to want to revisit the entire series now, great video and thanks for all your hard work!
I enjoyed the 4th game , I tend to look at silent hill from lovecraftian horror standpoint so the wormholes and dream world aspects make sense when u look at it from that sub genre of horror the feelings of isolation the game pushes, and instead of a main story title it wouldve worked better as a spin off as originally intended
Me: I've see all these already...
Jared: yeah, but now its one video.
Me: Wellll I am applying for jobs and could use background stuff...I could watch it a few times XD
If you're performing a mundane task that takes about 6 or 7 hours, I've got you covered!
Perfect. The leaves are starting to turn different colours, there's a crisp chill to the air, and that feeling that something unexpected might happen. It's October, and a perfect time to watch this retrospective while embracing that weird and spooky time of year.
SH1 was good. When I played it I was in my early teens and it just didn't have a chance to connect as well as with later entries.
SH2 I loved how tragic all the characters' fate is. Angela's breathing room and that whole area scare me too much and I just hesitate to replay that part.
SH3 is the bomb. It's my fave and I liked the gameplay more. I'm still traumatized by the mirror room, and the laughing picture on top of the ladder * SHUDDERS. *
SH4 I enjoyed quite a bit until about halfway when they just make you backtrack the whole game. It also felt rushed as the graphics felt like a step back. The Room and mechanics weren't too bad tho. The best part is that it felt fresh compared to the rest of the entries so far.
I played the first ps3 silent hill until about halfway and lost interested. Never bothered with any other SH game. I heard the SH1 remake is good, but somehow the lack of guns bothered me and I never played it.
One of the saddest things EVER was PT getting cancelled. Still hurts to this day. Screw Konami.
2&3 have always been my favs. They're both so good for different reasons I couldn't pick one over the other. The scenes in 3 with the phone calls and the discussion with the psyc in the library though, perfect 👌🏻
this is legit one of the best summary video's on the topic of Silent Hill. Thank you. What a truly amazing series.
No! Thank you for enjoying it!
Ok please can we take a minute to praise SH1 camera system?? I mean... It's a combination between fixed and dynamic camera and even when it's on fixed position it moves and follows the character across the room and the result is just so beautiful and cinematic! Something that many games lack nowadays...
Over the shoulder view is sure good and functional but far to be artistic and creative.
I still remember how I felt the first time I ever entered that alley at the beginning of the game with those twisted camera angles and how insane it looks and still does!
So impressive how the ps1 handled those things back in the day.
I will say I love it. I can see why some people don't like it. I mean it can be hard to control, but once you learn how to use it, it's fucking art.
3 was my first Silent Hill game so I've always had a soft spot for it
I played my first session of SH for the first time a couple days ago(SH2 btw). I gotta say I love it. Thanks for encouraging me to pick it up Jared.
Make sure you have good health and ammo before you go to the amusement park or you will rage quit.
Firstly I want to say as a SH fan since the ps1 days, watching your retrospectives was a pure delight. I wanted to get a couple of thoughts out after your video. SH3 absolutely touched my soul in the way you felt for it. I was fortunate to have waited to play SH2 until recently. So my experience at first was playing 1 and 3 in that order. And wow what a pairing those games were. The other thing I wanted to say was in regards to the noise effect the series had. Until I watched you're videos I've always kept them on as I felt it was an effect team silent left to convey the almost molecular decay of being in/near the other world. I now see after all this time it does look better with it off but I thought youd like to know how I at least perceived the meaning of that artistic choice whether it's right or wrong. Anyway keep up the great content amigo!
Me too.
The noise filter in the original series isn't annoying. For Origins it becomes absurd. You can literally see splotches of it instead of grains
To me the first one is the best, the weird camera angles, the pixelated psx graphics, the dirty, noisy and in some parts violent music, i played the shit out of this game as a kid, this is one of those few games that really makes you feel an unique experience, something that no other game will replicate ever, if they ever do a remaster i hope they focus on the cgi look and just do it the exact same way but with better animations and lights fx
I'll always have a place in my heart for homecoming, I was 13 when it came out and what got me into playing the other silent hill games.
He hates silent hill 4 so much he complained about the guy being loose and the same thing he praised silent hill 2 movement for lol
Wether you read comments on older vids or not, thank you for making this. While I’m heavily attached to SH2, like you said, it couldn’t be possible without SH1. The world of SH itself is so strange and unsettling, but so very alluring to me as well. Thank you, again, for speaking about the series. I appreciate the effort it took to make this. Maybe someday we can all revisit Silent Hill in another sequel. Perhaps not, but there’s always hope for a solid rebirth of a great series.
I enjoyed the hell out of Homecoming when i first played it. I was obsessed w/ SH2 and 3 when they came out and I thought it fell right in line with those. That said, i never cared about the stories in any. I love the tone and gameplay.
I wish homecoming completely dropped its focus on combat and leaned more into atmosphere and dread, where running and hiding from the monsters was best and fighting them is the only approach when back into a corner. I didn't care for the game's story at all but the exploration, locales and slow paced build ups were highlights of the game for me.
Silent hill has always been a franchise near and dear to my heart for many reasons people have shared in various ways.
But this video has kept me company on lonely trips to and from work for about a week and a half now. And getting to the part at the end when you said "the very last entry" and then at the beginning of PT "that little town off of Toluca Lake" I couldn't help but tear up a little. I've definitely found a new interest in your channel and will be watching more videos, but I'll miss how each intro felt almost like a tour guide, or visiting a friend I never quite got to see frequently enough.
I've also decided to replay these games as I never played past 3, so thank you for reigniting that spark in my heart for this foggy little tourist destination ❤️
Dude, like thank you!
You’re doing excellent work. Is crazy how much we think alike especially SH3. What got me more invested in the game is heathers taught everything she saves her progress. How she knew at some point she was failing and she got another opportunity when you lose and reload your save date.
I really enjoy that you go into detail about how these old games render. Very few reviewers have the knowledge or ability to describe the way a game renders / upscales between versions and consoles.
Knowing next to nothing about graphics or rendering, it's great hearing you explain it all in a way that even a fool like myself can understand.
My dude i keep switching between your RE: Retrospective, and this one so i can go into autopilot at work. Great work bro.
Glad to help the work day go by a little quicker!
I have never played a Silent Hill game, I found you through your Suffering review, and realized how awesome it was to listen to you while I work. This "short" video will occupy my workday perfectly and I appreciate you for making it!
I like listening to these as I fall asleep so I'll probably watch this every night for the next week
You deserve the ad revenue chief :)
I really look for good clear voicing for long analysis videos, and yours is excellent and well paced. Great content and now I know a LOT more about silent hill!
Absolutely love this compilation. I enjoyed every minute of this video... keep doing what you're doing my dude, and thanks a bunch for the entertainment.
I really like SIlent Hill 4, its just so weird. I also love the apartment gameplay element, peeping out the windows.
Me too!
I think you were a bit too harsh/biased about SH4. IMO The Room has some of the most interesting monster design, and was waay scarier than the first three. The sense of isolation and claustrophobia you feel in the apartment and the surreal setting you find yourself in shouldn't be undersold.
Other than that, I agree with most of your perspectives.
Enjoyed the video
Idk... I found it not as engaging as the first 3 and I'm considering not going back to finish it due to the long escort mission that I'm currently stuck in. I want to finish it for the story but I've definitely not been enjoying the actual gameplay as much.
I may be weird but I'm like a clasutrophile. I'm very comfortable in small places, it means I'm safe from attack as I have 4 walls close around me. Now if you threw in a monster in that room with me, that would definitely suck, but generally I find it comfortable. And while I'm not afraid of wide opens areas, if I was going to be afraid of something, being alone in a mansion makes more sense to me than a small studio apartment.
@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 I get what you're saying but a small area with the door chained shut and unable to leave scared me to death.
@@sonja9813 Well when you add the chained in part sure. I'm just saying stick me alone in a 1 bed room apartment or a enormous gothic castle, I'll take the apartment.
Which monsters were interesting? The apes with testicles on their foreheads? The dogs? The oversized mosquito stirge things? The Marilyn Manson Nurse things that burp when you hit them? The Toadstools? The only monster I found interesting (at all) in SH4 were the two-headed baby things.
I sleep to your vids but i always go back to them in my free time to watch them all the way through. Top tier content.
I've gone to sleep to my fair share of youtubers. Glad to provide that service to someone else.
Great reviews man, but why are even auto-generated subs unavailable? I like to watch these when going to sleep on barely audible. Is that something you can turn on or is it maybe disabled due to the length?
Walter Sullivan was actually mentioned in a newspaper article in Silent Hill 2, not to mention that the orphanage in the forest is in Silent Hill and right by Toluca Lake
The fact that pyramid head and the nurses made it into other silent hill games shows that the developers that took over the series after 4 didn’t at all comprehend the story of SH 1-3. It’s such a shame because the first three games are absolute masterpieces. SH has been dead since Konami split up Team silent.
I’ve done nothing but rewatch the SH retrospectives for a week now. I freakin love these videos.
Neat. These compilations are neat af.
I make them with the goal of reaching maximum neatness.
@@AvalancheReviews yeah well it's not very neat. You need to do better
@@whiteamericanmale7392 How, these videos are great
@@whiteamericanmale7392 do literally everyone a favor and shut up please
This is my favorite series in the world, thank you so much for delivering such a thorough dive into it. I really can't get enough of Silent Hill, from the visuals and music to the themes and characters, and I love that it's touched other people's lives in a similar way.
This was the first real game series I was exposed to after meeting my fiance, because I didn't get to play games as a kid, and I have to say it is definitely still my number 1 fave. I love hearing your perspective on it :)
i fully respect that you don't cut out any of the missteps or anything, and in fact you lean into it.
that makes this thing WAY more enjoyable.
Silent Hill: Downpour was, regretfully, my first game in the series. We owned a ps2 but never a SH game. It has a weird place in my heart, I both loved and hated it. I loved the horror aspects o the game, I remember loving that theater scene where you but on a play as a stage tech; I hated the graphics and general visual presentation and basically everything else about it. It kind of tainted all of SH for me and I never understood the praise the series got. After watching your SH videos I understand. Thank you
Downpour has actually a potential for me. The story line, the exploration, the ambience except from the few game bugs. I didn't like homecoming. The plot about the order and shepherd's glenn is really obnoxious.
Yeah I really loved downpour. Great story
Downpour was actually great
I'm one of those who loves Downpour a lot. What's crazy is I totally agree with almost all of the issues people mention about the game but something about it just clicks for me, even more so after replaying it recently. It had a great story and some genuinely freaky moments that scared the hell out of me like a certain basement or a certain sewer system found in the game as side objectives which are where the game is at its most creative for me. I also enjoyed how running away and combat with enemies could be equally difficult and while most of the monster designs suck, I adore the weeping bat in both design and function, that's an SH monster I'd love to see return - I also love the simple design of the boogeyman too. But for sure, this being your first experience must have been rough because of its many problems.
Personally, I loved silent hill downpour. Was actually pretty creepy.
I appreciate all your videos, man. Your retrospectives have got me to pick up Silent Hill 2 and 3. Keep up the great work.
Nothing better than an Avalanche Reviews compilation to cozy up with for 6+ hours. I re-visit the SH and RE reviews once a year at least.
YES. Over six hour long video essays. YES. THANK YOU AND KEEP IT UP
Glad ya like it!!
I always hated the "It would be a better received game if it wasn't named in the X series" because Deadly Premonition gets shit on for not being titled "Twin Peaks: a game adaptation"
True story, Silent Hill holds the coveted title of being the first, last, and only video game to genuinely scare me. I was about 12 years old, we got a demo disk in a video game magazine that had the playable demo on it, I popped it in thinking I was hot shit, and the part where you go down the dark alleyway by lighter light and the Gray Children suddenly come slinking out of the shadows scared me so fucking bad that I dropped the controller and actually ran from the room. Plenty of games have gotten me with jumpscares, or made me too tense to want to round a corner or go into a room, but I was too scared to even attempt to play Silent Hill for quite some time. To this day I get anxious at that part because it takes me back to a moment of feral fear from my childhood. Goddamn that game is a masterpiece. I'd played tons of horror games and movies, like I loved (and still do love) the Resident Evil series, but I'd just never experienced the kind of horror this game series uses.
I even still have the demo disk. Official US Magazine Disk 16, January 1999, has playable demos of Silent Hill, Brave Fencer Musashi, Moto Racer 2, Apocalypse, and Tai Fu lol.
Same here. When Lisa turns and is banging on the door it's the only time I've had to take a break from a game due to being disturbed.
The thing about "Every game is just Silent Hill 2" is due to the fact that, 1 and 3 are a complete arc, with nothing to add, there is no motive to go back to that scenario, but 2 showed that, yes, there is a thing for tortured souls in a ghost town, it trying at least to not go to Resident evil vibe of "there is only 4 protagonists that are used to infinitum"
I'll never understand why people hate on Douglas. He's arguably one of the most compelling characters in the series.
People hate on him????!!?! He's a fucking awesome character!!!
Sudeki: a game that everyone agrees... existed.
That cracked me up. What an accurate way to sum up that game.
Yeah, I sat down to write something about the game, and I kept coming up with nothing. So I figured the fact that it was a game, was enough. HA!
I started playing Silent Hill 1 on my PSP through download from my PS3 and my GOD I fell in love with this games world I have dreams where I'm in a room and I jump down a hole to then end up in a completely different and non related room...maybe it's because I have depression haha honestly idk what causes me to have such dreams...that aside I love your channel and I love this video....huhhhhh I feel so at home in silent hill games it feels like I'm playing a video game version of my dreams 😄👍🏻
It had a big effect on me when I first played it too. I think SH just challenges players so much more than your average game. It asks a lot of questions and doesn't always answer them. Very unique and special this series.
Yes indeed and that's why a lot of people play this game series well except for the PS3 silent hill games they had a chance but the other game developers just had no clue on what they were doing with the SH series when making them....sighhh I wish the original Team Silent came back together one last time to make another Silent Hill using today's graphics 👍🏻
I think they try to ape so much on Silent Hill 2 is because it was the most popular, critically praised and even best selling game in the franchise at the time.
Not only that, but it set the ground rules for the city, and it's corruptive influence. That if you have inner demons and issues, the darker they are, the more the city will manifest to haunt you.
While if you're pure or have few inner demons, the city will just be a barren town.
Which is why most of the main cast of Silent Hill 2 saw creatures or figments tailor made to torment them (James' sexual desire in the beasts and Pyramid Head the punisher, the fat guy saying all he sees are people making fun of him and laughing, and Angela saw a city in flames her dad everywhere) Laura, the little girl, saw nothing at all. James is even drawn into the Angela's fight against her father before she gives her soul to the city's demons by ascending the stair case.
Games 1 and 3 were their own story line and damn good games, but they were about finally destroying the cult and removing the demon's corruption from Heather, the town however still remains curse and corrupted from years of cult activity, growing more powerful as more deaths are added.
Using game 2 as a template just makes sense since it set everything up nicely, such as many slasher horror movies do, a set of rules and ideas to follow.
I personally enjoyed all the games for what they were, despite the varying level of "Silent Hill" each game was. I still need to play book and origins sadly.
Number one argument in favor of fixed cameras is that they offer the most cinematic experience. Oh, and they help the developers tailor the experience.
Thank you for this. Im a huge silent hill fan and ive been listening to this on the way to work and at different times throughout the day like episodes. Proud of the work you do sir!
"I hope everyone involved in the SH HD collection never finds work in the industry again"
That's...kind of harsh. I'm sure some people involved tried their best.
And as someone who played SH2 and 3 on the ps2 as a kid, the HD collection is honestly not THAT bad, if you were to play it with no prior experience in either game you wouldn’t notice the problems
Yeah no. They did an aweful job and ruined the remaster IMO I did t know how sloppy they were with the scenery and shadows and glitches that’s what ruined it for me :( I hope that hey never get hold of 1 & 4. I hope a good reparable company gets ahold of those remakes or remasters. I can’t even play hd collections. I have to go back to the originals because the lagging and scenes are so bad 😞
@@dougdynamo8990 As someone who played SH2 and 3 on the PS2 as a kid in the early 2000s and also within the past 4 months. No, you're incorrect. A psychoanalyst with proper context for this situation would question your sanity. You're downplaying game-ruining glitches, the awful and generic mumblecore-tier new voice acting that it defaults to on SH2 and is the only option for SH3, script rewrites that are one step away from creating fanfiction, etc.
And to suggest having no prior experience with the original versions would somehow allow you to "ignore" the rampant framerate and screen tearing issues on what is a a *PS2* *port* (games you can, with very little work, get running perfectly via emulation on a tablet or jailbroken 3DS) is ludicrous. If you played the HD Collection with no prior Silent Hill experience, you would literally be confused as to why all the old school fans mention fog so much, because they fucked up the fucking fog in both those "remasters".
@@escalatingbarbarism5096 lol chill, go outside. It’s a video game
Oh, he said that? What an awful person. Time to never watch anything by him again. Donna Burke voiced Angela. She sang Sins of the Father in MGS 5. She's incredible. But, you know, I don't like it so I hope you become destitute.
Wow I'm only 1min and 20 seconds in and you get a thumbs up for having such a great into, "the trees, fog in the air from your breath, kick around the debris" just great listening to you say that or something to that effect really put me there in that town and I am ready to join you on this up close and personal trip down memory lane. I have never played these games but love watch people explain games that they love so much because the passion is infectious. Thank you👍😊
Seriously man I've just discovered your channel a couple days ago but it was an instant sub I'm trying to binge everything and share some of your vids on the socials. You Seriously put so much work and effort into your videos. Thank you man seriously. I'm glad I am able to spend some time of my life watching you.
One of my favorite go to compilations for boring job walking around and cleaning. Very soothing voice, man! Keep it up!
Aye I've watched them all separate now it's time to watch this
3 was also my favorite in the series. It was the first SH that I really sunk my teeth into at the tender age of eight. Not the first I played, but the first I really tore into. My god, what an incredible experience.
I loved Silent Hill 3 waaaay more than any of the others.
being a teenage girl playing sh3 was a feeling I don't think I'll ever be able to replicate lol
it's my favorite for many other reasons, but that's just something that makes it extra nostalgic
@@appalachiabrauchfrau same
2:28:06 if anyone gets frustrated about this remember, just because Silent Hill 4 didn’t start as a Silent Hill game doesn’t mean it’s any less of a silent hill game than 1-3. “Start” is petty vague and considering the fact that Walter is the main villain and he was mentioned in Silent Hill 2 and “The Twin Victim” enemy is in reference to said article about Walter in SH2. That’s a lot of stuff to change last minute.(which a lot of videos on SH4 tend to imply that it was a last minute name change) All I’m trying to say is, don’t get mad and if you did, SH4 didn’t START as an SH game but it became one because of money and maybe they decided it would fit the story who knows really all that matters is it’s cool and Henry is goofy!
Yeah! You should try Silent Hill play novel for the GBA. Kind of a hidden gem, I found it pretty cool back in the day
I really like your thoughts on Homecoming, though I have to say that the way I understood it all these years was that the core theme was generational trauma. We see three generations of these families, its impact on each of them and a sense of how it affected each family. At least, I think that was what they were going for. I am biased because I really liked Alex as a character (maybe being female put a bit more distance between me and him?) and what they showed us through his home, but I had also invested in and enjoyed the pre-release materials about his ‘military service’.
It sucks having a 6 or a 7/10 game when those before it were more like 10s and 9s. When it’s not bad but it’s not -great-. I really loved it though, regardless of everything.
Tangentially related, but around the same time- the way RE5 had been marketed, I’d expected that to be more of a psychological bent considering how much effort they went through to show Chris being traumatised as hell but then… well. We all know what we got.
I remember so mesmorized when maria was talking to jame in the cell and then she switched her tone completely ''im not your mary'' masterpiece
I was a small kid when I got PS1 as a gift from my uncle. Now I am 27 and I know him much better. He doesn't know English and games need to be simple. While he enjoys games he isn't into anything specific like Resident Evil, Silent Hill and etc. He just plays games and I don't think he cares about stuff like story and some games are in English so he wouldn't even understand much of it.
So when I got his used PS1 I received around 25 games on original CD's too. For a guy that just plays games I must say he picked some great games. Silent Hill, Fighting Force 2, Syphon Filter 2, Grand Turismo, Blade, Metal Gear, Dino Crisis 2, Tomb Raider 2, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2, Die Hard trilogy, Medal of Honor and etc. I am honestly amazed a person like this picked so many amazing games. Even if he doesn't understand the importance of these games and how amazing they were I have huge respect for him because he gave pretty much best games out there to a kid.
As a kid I couldn't play Silent Hill honestly. That dream part is burned into my mind and after a flying raptor monster attacked the dinner I was like "nope, time to play something else". I had 0 experience with horror games so playing something so horrifying and oppressive is honestly a bit too much for a first game.
I didn't have a PS2 but same thing happened and I got used PC as a gift with same amount of games for it. Once again so many fucking great games... Morrowind, Vietcong, Ghost Recon and etc...
I emulated good amount of PS2 games but never could get in into Silent Hill games. Controls and gameplay were just not for me. Years later I watched playtroughs of these games, read lore and etc. These games aren't fun to play but god damn are they interesting to watch and learn about. First 3 games are fascinating and amazing.
I understand SH2 is a spin off but it's just better. Like SH2 and SH3 are both amazing games but there are couple things that just push SH2 further then SH3. For example were James jumps into multiple pits and visits a room with bunch of dead bodies in the wall. Then after that just jumps again into a pit. There are multiple disturbing places like this. Silent Hill 3 has stuff like this too but it continues the theme of SH1 which has been seen before. Cult stuff is probably the weakest thing in Silent Hill games because it's not interesting. Silent Hill 2 even has a better "joke" ending. Just look at that dog ending and finish watching credits it's fucking hilarious.
I swear Silent Hill Homecoming is my guilty pleasure of this series. I will freely admit its flaws but its like this wierd time capsule of both horror gaming and movies of the time and it does it pretty shamelessly. That and the first time I played this was a wierd all nighter and the hell descent sequence before the doll boss still hits me every time because of it.
You're voice is smooth velvet my friend. This was my favorite SH retrospective I have ever seen.
Avalanche, great retrospective. Absolutely wonderful work. Thank you for bringing me back to my favourite series of all time.
Got my sub within the first 10 minutes!
Excellent combination of fact, story telling, and comedy. Well done! Love these long form videos as background noise, and I wind up watching them more than once. Looking forward to what you do next!!
Rumor has it: if you never were seducted into a cult, you haven't have the Silent Hill experience yet😝
I can speak from personal experience.............that is true.
Mary Elizabeth McGlynn gives off serious "Let me speak with your manager" vibes.