The Silent Hill 2 Remake Should NOT Be This Good: SH Retrospective

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @DaltonGoesSlow
    @DaltonGoesSlow 26 дней назад +269

    Smashing windows is a better solution than incongruous smashable boxes lol

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  26 дней назад +37

      This is true

    • @Herpusderpus
      @Herpusderpus 25 дней назад +23

      What do you mean, I founded a whole company that puts a box of 2-5 handgun bullets (they fit any handgun ever made, by the way, it's magic) inside another, larger box. Sometimes herbs, too, just to piss off the gun nuts who want more bullets.

    • @sh0ryualfa393
      @sh0ryualfa393 25 дней назад +6

      Don't forget the yellow paint!

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 24 дня назад

      @@Herpusderpus the boxes in the games are always in the appropriate box

    • @clockworkNate
      @clockworkNate 23 дня назад +2

      But smashing boxes is better than slowly opening 100 empty drawers. 😂

  • @2k7podge2k7
    @2k7podge2k7 25 дней назад +98

    Im only 30 mins in and i dont know if you will mention it , but ive noticed every review channels fails to mention that this remake is actually scary , its genuinely hard to play for long streches becasue it wears on you

    • @kahlilbt
      @kahlilbt 25 дней назад +6

      I was sweating! Had to take breaks

    • @2k7podge2k7
      @2k7podge2k7 25 дней назад +7

      @kahlilbt it's scary , there only a handful of games that are actually scary for me

    • @johnmirra6707
      @johnmirra6707 23 дня назад +9

      Have you played the original game? Because I think you've confused fear with nervous stress from relentless enemy encounters from a game that should be using the atmosphere and music to instill the fear of lonliness.

    • @2k7podge2k7
      @2k7podge2k7 22 дня назад +8

      @johnmirra6707 I did yes , I've played og twice times and this once , when og first came out I thought it was scary but replaying it at the start of covid I found it more funny than scary

    • @macfly6237
      @macfly6237 22 дня назад +1

      @@johnmirra6707I played OG and I’ve always thought Silent Hill 1 and 3 we’re far more scary than 2. I liked 2’s story but never thought it was half as scary as Silent Hill 1

  • @wizology_
    @wizology_ 26 дней назад +522

    It is good , the og is good, neither game is perfect. Og did some things better than the remake and vice versa. Both can coexist.

    • @awesomemark1234100
      @awesomemark1234100 26 дней назад +52

      I just wish we had a proper HD port on consoles

    • @jedstuhr
      @jedstuhr 26 дней назад +92

      I think some of the hardcore OG "fans" forget that you CAN like both things... you're not betraying the original by liking the new one, as well

    • @ericjpdt
      @ericjpdt 26 дней назад +40

      ​@@jedstuhrThey're anoying,and looks like they felt ofended If somenone enjoys the remake

    • @CommanderRedEXE
      @CommanderRedEXE 26 дней назад +36

      ​@@jedstuhr Yes. We saw this same thing with RE4. So many fanboys showed their true colors when the remake dropped. They couldn't handle it was a good remake. It was comparable to the OG but neither better or worse.

    • @elruffian163
      @elruffian163 26 дней назад +8

      I was kinda disappointed they didn't do the opening like in part 2 with the cutscenes.the song kinda set the tone before you start the game

  • @biguy223
    @biguy223 26 дней назад +122

    Just finished Nitro Rad's one hour and 40 minutes video and now i'm adding another hour and 10 minutes it seems for this video lol

    • @sikevillain
      @sikevillain 26 дней назад +16

      Yeah I love Nitro Rad & Avalanche long form videos.. 😎

    • @leon-el9614
      @leon-el9614 26 дней назад +5

      Same here

    • @chumorgan443
      @chumorgan443 26 дней назад +2

      Both awesome, both with different takes , both right.

    • @Oxcymoron
      @Oxcymoron 25 дней назад +5

      Same here. I love seeing and comparing other people's perception of the game and how it compares to mine. Except for the so called fans that consider the remake "woke" and spend their whole videos complaining about imaginary problems 😮‍💨

    • @SlurpyPie
      @SlurpyPie 25 дней назад +1

      @@Oxcymoron Synthetic man immediately came to mind 💀💀

  • @navyhusky2020
    @navyhusky2020 25 дней назад +53

    My thing with the dodge is, while I thought it was kinda silly at first for just some random dude like James, at least it's not some kind of "super soldier dodge roll" like in Homecoming. It's just some awkward jerk out of the way that fits the character more lol

    • @Zakemaster
      @Zakemaster 23 дня назад +3

      Animation wise, sure. But the dodge does have generous invincibility frames, which does feel like a bit much.

    • @KLGChaos
      @KLGChaos 15 дней назад +7

      ​@Zakemaster It kinda needs to or you would be dead 100x over before you got 1/2 way through with how aggressive and tanky the monsters are now.

  • @atomdecay
    @atomdecay 17 дней назад +11

    I want it to be understood that Silent Hill has ALWAYS had a Dodge mechanic. Even in SH 1, you can push Square Square to do a Dodge maneuver, it's clunky but it gives you some space & lets you dodge some attacks. So the Dodge isnt brand new to this remake, the Dodge is just more fluid.

  • @silenthillarchives
    @silenthillarchives 26 дней назад +84

    I've been waiting to hear your thoughts on Silent Hill 2 Remake. I'm glad to see your perspective on the game with your thoughts on its pros and cons yet still having perception and self-awareness from where it's coming from. Good stuff as always, Jared 🤘

    • @navyhusky2020
      @navyhusky2020 26 дней назад +7

      I watched all your "hidden secrets" videos on the remake
      Good stuff 👍

    • @sikevillain
      @sikevillain 26 дней назад +3

      You have a great channel 👍 keep it up SHA 💯

    • @ActionSquintRingo
      @ActionSquintRingo 26 дней назад

      The cons are the entire game nearly. Yes i was stupid enough to buy it againts my better judgement after being burnt out after r.e 4 remake but its no different from any other title. this is like EA's FIFA crisis back there, they are cloning the same titles and rushing them to market.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  26 дней назад +9

      Thank you so much!!

    • @AshNeeko
      @AshNeeko 26 дней назад

      @@ActionSquintRingore4r and sh2r are both great like the ogs you’re just miserable

  • @programmer437
    @programmer437 25 дней назад +24

    Bloober team coming out of nowhere with “actually we can make a solid game”

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  25 дней назад +6

      I'm still shook

    • @johnmirra6707
      @johnmirra6707 23 дня назад

      This is like when the kid who copies someone else's homework gets a B- haha.

  • @Beatofblues
    @Beatofblues 26 дней назад +82

    I've re-watched every single SH retrospective (again) while patiently waiting for this to drop

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  26 дней назад +18

      I really want to re-do those videos

    • @shookn
      @shookn 26 дней назад

      Did you watch the one from RUclipsr “Doctor Disaster” though?

    • @Beatofblues
      @Beatofblues 25 дней назад +2

      @@AvalancheReviews "Return to Silent Hill Retrospective"

    • @russellbyrne2000
      @russellbyrne2000 25 дней назад

      @@AvalancheReviewsI’ll happily watch a re do of the first. One of my all time favs and love your first vid.

    • @ajaakola2
      @ajaakola2 25 дней назад

      @@AvalancheReviewsyou should

  • @tonytony948
    @tonytony948 26 дней назад +54

    Silent hill retrospective intro is GOATed iconic

  • @mehhh8888
    @mehhh8888 24 дня назад +18

    I like how they did all of the remake characters except Maria. Her emotional response to stuff just doesn't work for me. Everyone else is A+ though.

    • @drakenfist
      @drakenfist 15 дней назад +3

      I really like the new Maria. The old version felt more sexual in nature. The new version feels like she leveled up, somewhat remembers the original and is trying to be more nurturing like Mary to lure James into a sense of false security.

    • @purplepolecat
      @purplepolecat 14 дней назад +3

      I have to disagree, I thought the new Maria was a lot more charming and mature than the original.

    • @RiledKitty
      @RiledKitty День назад +1

      Angela was the standout for me. Thought she was incredible in the remake. But really all the new actors were great.

  • @MasonShmason
    @MasonShmason 25 дней назад +35

    Bloober did a damn good job, they knocked it out of the park.

  • @davidmedford1166
    @davidmedford1166 23 дня назад +15

    Has anyone experienced the bug where a monster is dead but is just standing there doing nothing when you reenter the room? It has no hitbox and it won’t attack either. Scared the crap out of me a couple times.

    • @chowzan9477
      @chowzan9477 23 дня назад +2

      Had it a few times, it confused the hell outta me

    • @purplepolecat
      @purplepolecat 14 дней назад

      Once when I reentered a room, a nurse I had previously killed was standing for a few frames, but then reverted to dead. (It scared the crap out of me)

  • @qsywastooshort7451
    @qsywastooshort7451 25 дней назад +22

    I think it's a little disingenuous to attribute game devs changing one face to not look like a model to their catering to a supposed vocal minority.
    Angela's face doesn't taper down as much, sure, lots of people just look like that. I find it a little insulting that your two options as for why would be woke gone out of control or a straight up artist's error. Secondly I kind of feel like characters in media should have the option to look like people without it becoming so polarizing. I also wish female characters weren't bearing the full weight of that kind of scrutiny.

    • @phant0mdummy
      @phant0mdummy 24 дня назад +1

      I don't get the crowd saying Maria looks like a man.
      She's a hottie.

    • @grawman67
      @grawman67 20 дней назад +6

      It's a bit of a double standard because no one talks about that with male characters despite so many being ridiculously chiseled and unrealistic. It seems like only women characters are seen like that.
      But honestly, as fiction, they should be able to be realistic and unrealistic. It just seems like only female characters are held to that scrutiny

  • @V4Now
    @V4Now 26 дней назад +27

    I hope we get a remake of the first one

    • @Christrulesall2
      @Christrulesall2 2 дня назад

      With the success of this one, im pretty sure its in the works. The 3rd one as well hopefully.

  • @vinny-zebu
    @vinny-zebu 26 дней назад +39

    In my restless dreams, I see an Avalanche Review...

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  26 дней назад +6

      Golf clap

    • @vinny-zebu
      @vinny-zebu 25 дней назад

      @@AvalancheReviews haha, love your reviews man!

    • @charongold6532
      @charongold6532 24 дня назад +1

      Hehe my thoughts exactly😅. I really enjoyed this review

  • @Red-ks8fk
    @Red-ks8fk 26 дней назад +11

    This retrospective series is how I found the channel, happy to see a new entry and a positive one at that after the rough state the series was left in

  • @seazonegranec
    @seazonegranec 26 дней назад +13

    One thing that really surprised me was the sound with the DualSense. The radio static noise SOARS through the controller

    • @brettwilson5842
      @brettwilson5842 14 дней назад

      As somebody who has that turned off by default, I had no idea this was even a thing!

    • @nerad1994
      @nerad1994 3 дня назад

      The radio static is oddly terrifying

  • @TayronFreitas
    @TayronFreitas 25 дней назад +15

    Hard difficulty is the real deal, scarce consumables and ammo made every encounter terrifying

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  25 дней назад +5

      That's gonna be my next playthrough.

    • @jim3541
      @jim3541 22 дня назад +1

      Just makes the enemies damage sponges.. they shouldve just maxed out their damage. In the end it doesnt really matter because 90% of them you can just beat to death with the pipe and save ammo when you get the dodge down

  • @sikevillain
    @sikevillain 26 дней назад +19

    SH 2 remake was done very well despite some nitpickings.. i really enjoyed the game alot. It doesn't replace the OG but pays respect to it in a genuine way.. after finishing the remake twice im back to enjoying the OG again as well.. both games can exist

  • @sariah77
    @sariah77 20 дней назад +3

    glad im not alone in thinking the facial animation quality was very different across scenes, i also felt like the end of angela's knife scene looked weird when in others she looks great. another one that looked off to me was when laura reacts to james confession, her eyes and even face overall barely seemed to move.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  20 дней назад +2

      Yeah, it's really strange how it bounces back and forth between looking great and bad.

  • @E_Sunbro
    @E_Sunbro 26 дней назад +13

    @1:00
    Friendly correction here, Dead Space remake was made on EA's Frostbite engine, and the Callisto Protocol was built on UE4.
    Either way, the end result is the same and honestly the devs in the case of all of these games had to have noticed these problems before launch and shouldn't have just said "fuck it".

  • @wrldoverheaven803
    @wrldoverheaven803 26 дней назад +8

    I've watched and rewatched your SH Retrospective vids so many times that the first thing I thought when I saw the remake trailer was 'damn, Jared's gonna have a field day with this one'.

  • @burningstariv
    @burningstariv 26 дней назад +71

    I've entirely finished the original SH2, even got the green hyper spray- back on ps2, greatest hits. I must have hit new game over 100 times, finished it in the dozens. I lost my ps2 due to a housefire, never bought the re-release because of the flaws. I've missed playing this story, so damn bad. Around two months ago, a friend let me come over, and I beat it, getting the In Water ending on purpose. I've now beaten the remake twice.. I don't think there will ever be a need for me to revisit the original again. This remake is my new definitive SH2. Bloober proved my assumptions wrong in the best way.

    • @DatcleanMochaJo
      @DatcleanMochaJo 26 дней назад +5

      That's very sad

    • @BLAM5980
      @BLAM5980 26 дней назад +1

      ^

    • @drownthepoor
      @drownthepoor 26 дней назад

      I haven't beat the remake yet, but I take a while on purpose.
      However, it made me run the original in an emulator, and I had forgotten it crashes in the apartment buildings.
      So now I've got the PC version downloaded and all of the HD footage etc and I have to build it in Wine because I'm on Linux.
      But apparently it's the only way to experience the original in HD.

    • @ThunderHOWL16
      @ThunderHOWL16 25 дней назад +3

      yup. i love the OG but saying it’s better than the remake is crazy. the remake is probably the best horror game i ever played.

    • @6reen6uy
      @6reen6uy 25 дней назад +2

      Crazy take, but to each their own. Myself I can overlook the original flaws more than I can the remakes. Love them both but just one more so.

  • @MrSevenseals
    @MrSevenseals 24 дня назад +6

    The performances in the remake are far more believable than the original.

  • @LittleChimpZerg
    @LittleChimpZerg 26 дней назад +111

    Fantastic remake that did some things actually better than the OG, and some things worse. Both games stand up well together.

    • @----248
      @----248 26 дней назад

      Without spoiling, could you elaborate? I'm still on the fence about playing it as i'm a huge fan of the original.

    • @flamingmanure
      @flamingmanure 26 дней назад +7

      @@----248 i played the OG at launch and its one of my fav games of all time, cant tell you how many times i replayed it.
      BUY IT...trust me on this. in my opinion it improved on the OG in many ways and did just some things abit worse, which can be somewhat mitigated imo.
      this remake is a masterpiece and as a remake, its better than both resi evil remakes by miles, it kept all the goddamn puzzles ffs unlike the re remakes.
      just buy it. its a magnificent game and frankly i want to show konami that silent hill is still a strong IP.

    • @----248
      @----248 26 дней назад +2

      @@flamingmanure Okay but in what way it did better/worse? What aspect changed?

    • @TheDarkjedi94
      @TheDarkjedi94 26 дней назад +1

      @@----248you should play it BECAUSE you’re a huge fan of the original

    • @----248
      @----248 26 дней назад +4

      @@TheDarkjedi94 🤣🤣🤣 You guys are killing me for real. I just want to know what is different and what have been improved. I dislike to play remake of games i have already played if they aren't different enough. I have a huge list of game i want to play and my time is very limited.

  • @captainfach
    @captainfach 19 дней назад +4

    Thank you so much for saying what you did about the voice acting. I thought I was taking crazy pills with all these reviewers saying that the voice acting was way better and the script was way better in the original and I just felt like I was going insane because the line delivery was just so much better and they made things so much more subtle in some scenes where it was just too damn fisted originality

  • @donovanx85
    @donovanx85 26 дней назад +29

    Been thinking about the remake alot (on 3rd play though)
    I look at SH2R similar to RE2R.
    With both games I don’t feel like they replace the originals or make them obsolete. I feel like I love both the originals and remakes in different ways.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  26 дней назад +9

      This was my exact feelings.

    • @sillylittlesheepjax6009
      @sillylittlesheepjax6009 25 дней назад

      dont u think remake is way too long

    • @ThunderHOWL16
      @ThunderHOWL16 25 дней назад +1

      @@sillylittlesheepjax6009it’s not that long if you know the puzzles answers and codes

    • @JarlBarbossa
      @JarlBarbossa 23 дня назад +2

      ​@@AvalancheReviews Sweet baby inc did in fact consult on this game, so people calling out the desexualization of characters in a game with themes like this, is not irrational "culture warriors". The only thing that's absurd is the amount of money that has been invested in the cause of making fake people less attractive.

    • @grawman67
      @grawman67 20 дней назад +2

      ​​@@JarlBarbossaThey desexualized some characters? When that's a key theme in 2? That's...a strange choice, to say the least, and contradictory to the themes

  • @antonybrisson4090
    @antonybrisson4090 26 дней назад +19

    SH2 combat was goofy af and SH2R makes it plenty better

    • @7RicolmE7
      @7RicolmE7 25 дней назад +3

      It was a joke, there's no Survival if you can literally tank all the enemies with a wooden plank and have at least 100 bullets by the end of the game.

    • @CyberLance26
      @CyberLance26 23 дня назад +3

      When Silent Hill Homecoming, The Evil Within and The Callisto Protocol came out people said that the combat must be goofy in a horror game or else it cant be scary.
      With those games people said that a game cant have good combat and be scary at the same time.

    • @grawman67
      @grawman67 20 дней назад

      It makes sense since James is a normal guy and it adds to the tension of fights, the decision of whether engaging is worth it or not

    • @drakenfist
      @drakenfist 15 дней назад

      I've gotten addicted to the combat in remake. There is a satisfying crunch to the brutality that is even more satisfying than the last of us.

  • @davidmedford1166
    @davidmedford1166 26 дней назад +43

    I like the whole purgatory aspect of the sh2 remake. It’s neat that James probably repeated the cycle a couple times until he finally took accountability for his actions and moved on breaking the cycle.

    • @RoguesRetro
      @RoguesRetro 26 дней назад +1

      He never does. James is forever trapped in Silent Hill, reliving the same emotional pain and psychological torment, even if he physically leaves the town.

    • @phant0mdummy
      @phant0mdummy 25 дней назад +2

      That's depending on the ending you get, but also, debatable.

    • @RoguesRetro
      @RoguesRetro 25 дней назад

      @@phant0mdummy aren't you precious? 'Debatable,' they say. Honey, the only debate here is which flavor of trauma James gets to savor. The OG creators laid it out: all endings are canon, which means James is screwed six ways to Sunday no matter what. Whether he's trapped in town or 'escapes,' those scars are permanent residents. Silent Hill: where 'happily ever after' means 'eternally messed up.'.

    • @kahlilbt
      @kahlilbt 25 дней назад +12

      @@RoguesRetroWhy can’t “Leave” be the last ending, where the loop is finally broken? Genuinely interested in your perspective, but please hold the condescending tone

    • @RoguesRetro
      @RoguesRetro 25 дней назад

      @@kahlilbt Silent Hill isn't a spa retreat - it's the Hotel California of psychological trauma. 'Leave' ending? More like 'Delusion' ending. James can check out any time he likes, but he can never truely leave. Those creators aren't selling happily-ever-afters, they're dishing out lifetime subscriptions to PTSD Weekly. They have stated that they want you to choose. Masahiro Ito stated that "all of the endings are canon.".
      Hot take: there are only 3 real Silent Hill games, and a spiritual successor that's the only one brave enough to keep the torch lit. The rest? Just a bunch of wannabe horror games trying to fill the void left by the OG.

  • @cortfoss9465
    @cortfoss9465 26 дней назад +56

    “and downpour” *shows picture of toilet*
    I cannot even begin to explain the roar of laughter that just escaped me.

    • @DeezBaeNaeNae
      @DeezBaeNaeNae 26 дней назад +17

      man, downpour dont deserve that much hate, homecoming does

    • @FatfighterXD1
      @FatfighterXD1 26 дней назад +6

      ​@@DeezBaeNaeNae nah downpour is worse. I actually legit forgot it existed

    • @timefades27
      @timefades27 26 дней назад +6

      Downpour had cool shit going on despite being an overall miss. Homecoming is SH: The Movie: The Game

    • @bigrigjoe5130
      @bigrigjoe5130 26 дней назад +4

      I love downpour :(

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  26 дней назад +2

      HAAAAAA!

  • @Hobbit-yi6on
    @Hobbit-yi6on 23 дня назад +10

    I actually quite love Angela's new design, she looks much closer to Satos original concept art of her. I also love that her face is a little more chubby as that is exactly how my face looked when I was her age before it thinned out. I already loved her in the og but seeing her in the remake with a much more relatable model really put into perspective just how young she is

  • @lazer_31
    @lazer_31 26 дней назад +4

    As the first SH game I've ever completed, I really enjoyed it and look forward to playing the first four games.

  • @ohjeezriles
    @ohjeezriles 26 дней назад +1

    Ayyyy hell yeah! I knew you were encountering audio issues when recording footage (i had similar issues when plugging in/unplugging headphones), so figured it might be a bit before we get a video. Stoked this is out in time for Halloween 😎 great video, man.

  • @Glaugan
    @Glaugan 26 дней назад +7

    52:50
    James: "I missed the part where that's my problem"

  • @samglover2246
    @samglover2246 26 дней назад +2

    Loved the video, always enjoy your work. A few things come to mind:
    - I think this will serve as a good point of reference for how to do remakes. It’s obvious this team actually respects the original without slavishly worshiping it and it’s genuinely excellent, even with its flaws accounted for.
    - If my memory serves, the persistent reticle you mentioned as an option is there as an accessibility option. I’ve seen other games have it and it apparently helps some people with motion sickness.
    - One of my favorite little touches is in the scene in theater with Eddie eating pizza. The look he gives James after he remarks about getting his appetite back was chilling for me because even if I didn’t know the game’s story, I know that look because I’ve gotten that look and, sadly, I’ve given people that look. It’s so obvious that Eddie takes anything and everything as a personal attack, regardless of if it’s meant that way. It’s a small thing and maybe I’m over analyzing it, but I appreciated that detail.

  • @theebronks
    @theebronks 26 дней назад +19

    generally I really enjoy the remake. that being said the tone of line delivery for James and Maria feel very different to the original to which i would say the characterization comes across differently. not bad just different. i hope the remake inspires more people to play the original.

    • @greatestnitemare6626
      @greatestnitemare6626 26 дней назад +2

      Another shill

    • @cainanmaybe504
      @cainanmaybe504 26 дней назад

      the only problem with the original is how hard it is to find for yourself, either emulate or use a site you might get malware from for it and the others

    • @Taboot761
      @Taboot761 26 дней назад

      @@greatestnitemare6626another dork

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 26 дней назад +11

      @@greatestnitemare6626 yes he’s such a shill for recommending people to play the OG amazing logic

    • @gRinchY-op5vr
      @gRinchY-op5vr 26 дней назад +1

      Oh definitely, Maria in the remake is one of the few negatives I can pin point in the remake - she sounds so bored and disinterested. The voice actress never changing her tone between voicing her and Mary bothers me too, they shouldn't sound EXACTLY the same its supposed to be what takes James in and out of their interactions?

  • @dieyng
    @dieyng 23 дня назад +3

    Wow. I did not believe you would be able to give this remake a fair shake. Kudos to you, being more open than lots of other old time SH2 fans.
    As someone who never managed to play through the game because I never had any PlayStation (and only played SH1,3 and 4 on friend's consoles) and when it came out on PC it just felt too old and dated visually and in gameplay, I am genuinely glad that I get to experience this story now in a new updated version.
    I've been quite critical with your approach to a few reviews and especially genre definitions in the comments on other videos, but credit where credit is due. Good job.
    I agree about Angela, but you got to admit that they definitely reduced the sexiness of Maria's outfit. I am never angry about stuff like that though, like you I prefer to be rational about this, but I notice it, just like you mentioned, it is catering to a small but vocal group.

  • @reiddutchess9955
    @reiddutchess9955 24 дня назад +8

    I see a lot of people trashing this remake, but I think it’s pretty great. They both are!

  • @Moth-ManRemasters
    @Moth-ManRemasters 26 дней назад +103

    Silent hill fans try not to be insufferable and nostalgia blind challenge: Impossible

    • @dracodawa6870
      @dracodawa6870 26 дней назад +7

      *cough *cough Yahtzee *cough

    • @Balalaika74
      @Balalaika74 25 дней назад +12

      Modern audience: The comment.

    • @ThunderHOWL16
      @ThunderHOWL16 25 дней назад +4

      yeaaaa i played the OG twice this year before the remake. i really loved it, but the remake is better in almost every way.

    • @Genasidal
      @Genasidal 25 дней назад +3

      ​@@Balalaika74 He's right though

    • @matrix255
      @matrix255 25 дней назад +11

      SH fans has been repeatedly fucked by Konami with a plethora of shitty releases, ports and cash grabs and now we have all this tourists calling us "haters" and "toxic."

  • @nosome
    @nosome 26 дней назад +56

    we got an actual decent silent hill before gta 6
    sorry, had to make that joke-

    • @zeroconnection
      @zeroconnection 26 дней назад +4

      No need for the apology. God tier comment

    • @DravenxEyeless
      @DravenxEyeless 26 дней назад +6

      We got Silent Hill before Silksong.

    • @paulwoodford1984
      @paulwoodford1984 26 дней назад +2

      the game was mediocre , generic and lost all the atmosphere of the original. It was hand holding, with all the white cloth, even in the god damn walls, telling you where to go and what to push, lol. so lame. The voice acting is good not great, and some is cringe and so poorly delivered. James is the best voice actor in this remake. Angela and maria are the worst. It’s padded out which makes the few enemy types so repetitive. The bosses are generic, with two turning into mechanical spiders. Pyamid head has become overused and generic and now just looks more dumb than ever. 6/10. it’s no masterpiece.

    • @nosome
      @nosome 26 дней назад

      @@DravenxEyeless never played hollow knight, but that still stings somehow

    • @nosome
      @nosome 26 дней назад

      @@paulwoodford1984 dude i said decent

  • @jaysanj152
    @jaysanj152 26 дней назад +36

    See ? It not that hard to enjoy BOTH the Original and the Remake.
    It's actually nice for once to see someone (beside Max Derrat) separates this,treats it as it own game and enjoying this remake for it is while also critique it accordingly instead of constantly comparing it to the original.
    Like several content creators who claims they are a "huge fan" only to see them nitpicking the tiniest details and ripped this game a new one just because it wasn't like the original and that's just sad if you ask me.
    The Remake is Good, The Original is a Masterpiece and You can enjoy them both individually and most importantly Silent Hill as a Franchise Deserved and Earning this success.
    Thanks Jared.

    • @HuggieWuggies
      @HuggieWuggies 26 дней назад +6

      a reimagining always lives on the shadow of the original piece of art, even more if the original is not easily available, not comparing with the original is denying the remake the chance to be more than a translation, a copy or even a modern interpretation...
      videogames are the only media that remakes are seen in a good light in general….

    • @Moth-ManRemasters
      @Moth-ManRemasters 26 дней назад +8

      ​@@HuggieWuggiesAre you going to say the original king kong movie from 1933 is better than its various remakes and reinterpretations?

    • @HuggieWuggies
      @HuggieWuggies 26 дней назад +2

      @@Moth-ManRemasters but don't the newer movies win some of the praise for the fact that it takes the original in to a generally better place? that what i was talking about, the remake being compared to the original is both good and bad at the same time.... more good then bad on my opinion....

    • @DeezBaeNaeNae
      @DeezBaeNaeNae 26 дней назад +2

      MAX DERRAT MENTIONED !!!
      SILENT HILL MAN 🗣️🔥🔥💯💯💯

    • @mr.sinjin-smyth
      @mr.sinjin-smyth 26 дней назад +6

      This. I've played and finished SH2 both the Original and Remake 4 times. They're both on equal footing in terms of "lightning in a bottle." Which is absolutely remarkable in every sense.

  • @DimaShortPlay
    @DimaShortPlay 26 дней назад +7

    With all that remake culture, making original games preserved and playable on modern hardware is obligatory. It should be the best excuse to make another remake. Imagine, buying a bundle of original and remake

    • @HuggieWuggies
      @HuggieWuggies 26 дней назад +5

      all i wanted was the SH2 Enhanced Edition on steam....

    • @Faded.Visuals
      @Faded.Visuals 26 дней назад

      @@HuggieWuggies yea that will never happen. I mean if you're a true SH fan you will have to suffer like every one else and mod in the enhance edition. There are a bunch of RUclips tutorials out there to hold your precious little hand.

    • @HuggieWuggies
      @HuggieWuggies 26 дней назад +1

      @@Faded.Visualsi finished the game 2 times with the mod.... i just want a official way to do so...

    • @Kirisu__Mafuyu
      @Kirisu__Mafuyu 21 день назад +1

      That's how it should be, but that, unfortunately, is very far from reality. Not even Capcom has done it.

    • @jamesquiggins
      @jamesquiggins 6 дней назад

      ​@Faded.Visuals Feel the the condescending tone isn't really necessary there.

  • @JustSkram
    @JustSkram 25 дней назад +2

    Honestly this remake and the mafia remake are my favorite type of remakes. Ones that knew the homework, had immeasurable amounts of love for the source material but made mild adjustments from years of retrospect and were able to craft as good of a tale with a faithful retelling.
    Also really fun to see that both studios (blooper and hangar 13), who had talent but had rather mixed games, were able to create a new fanbase when all the creative wires cross.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  25 дней назад

      That exactly how I feel. You can tell they really came at this from a place of reverence and love.

  • @OSW
    @OSW 26 дней назад +7

    Just wanted to thank the SH community for shouting at Bloober when the initial trailers were released. The models looked wrong and the constant over-acting threw up red flags everywhere. And well done Bloober company, listening to fan feedback and improving the game. The result is 1M sales in the first 4 days - everybody won!

  • @rudolfambrozenvtuber
    @rudolfambrozenvtuber 16 дней назад +1

    Two things can be true:
    >SH2's dialogue is good at doing what it's trying to do
    >Any attempt to recreate the vibe of the original's dialog was likely going to feel forced, so going for polish was probably the best move all told

  • @johnnytrash2839
    @johnnytrash2839 24 дня назад +5

    "This remake does a great job of giving me a second chance to play Silent Hill 2 for the first time" is my favorite comment so far to sum up this release. Well done!

  • @dylankebabking4056
    @dylankebabking4056 25 дней назад +2

    New to SH, I plan on playing the original SH2 after I beat the remake, so far I like everything about it from gameplay to music.

    • @grawman67
      @grawman67 20 дней назад

      Hope you have fun! The original is a real treat and it's great to see someone new to the franchise having fun

  • @naimbesiribesiri8619
    @naimbesiribesiri8619 26 дней назад +27

    Serious question: Am I the only one who had fun with homecoming? I hear a lot of people hating it and I dont really understand why. It was the first Silent Hill that got me to the series

    • @robertlawrence4719
      @robertlawrence4719 26 дней назад +11

      I don't care what anyone says , I enjoyed that game . Sometimes you have to shut out the noise.

    • @darran311
      @darran311 26 дней назад +4

      I liked homecoming just fine I've only completed it twice as opposed to the 20 or more times for most of the rest of the series but it has its merits , downpour on the other hand I've tried so many times and never finished it

    • @robertlawrence4719
      @robertlawrence4719 26 дней назад +1

      @darran311 didn't Downpour have that stuttering graphical thing going on? Maybe it was just my PS3 or just my copy of the game.

    • @darran311
      @darran311 26 дней назад +2

      @robertlawrence4719 I have it on PS3 and played it on 3 different PS3 consoles and got stuttering so it's the game being shit ....

    • @desfefe
      @desfefe 26 дней назад +3

      I think that people hate it more than they should because of the other games that precede it. Otherwise, it is a solid game.

  • @hismajestycorintheus
    @hismajestycorintheus 23 дня назад +1

    After I played through my entire first run (on PS5), I give the game overall an 8/10. My biggest detractors were:
    1. Performance: I always opt in for higher frame rates as I hate choppiness anything below 60 fps. The picture looks beautiful but the artifacting, the god awful ghosting, the very muddy look of a lot of textures to try and give us 60FPS and yet, on average be getting 45-50 tops.
    2. The facial animation - I wholeheartedly agree on the scene with Maria who audibly is distraught but you would never be able to tell by her face. Sometimes the emotions are spot-on; other times I’m scratching my head at the lack of emotion. The conversation with Laura after you watch the tape was another example. Laura looked like she was straight up smiling and laughing when she’s supposed to be crying and upset. I can’t quite understand why it’s so 50/50 with the facial animation.
    3. Maria - I don’t find her subtlety in the remake as an improvement. I always pictured her sultry, flirtatious and giving off bad-intention energy. The labyrinth scene sounded awful compared to the original in my opinion. The way she said, “I’m not your Mary” was a let down compared to the original. I’m glad they gave us the cameo of her original outfit but why not just give us the original? James, Laura, Eddie and Angela were all pretty much exact 1-1 copies. Why make the one character whose entire existence is to appear sexual be less sexy? When I see Maria, I picture a smirk on her face, bedroom eyes and very arched eyebrows. Someone you would never trust despite their allure.
    Angela - I’m pretty satisfied by her look and I have no qualms with her face or how “sexy” people wanted a SA victim to appear. However, I did picture Angela to appear emaciated like a girl who tortured herself from her past trauma through things she could control, like food intake. Like sunken in cheeks, hollow circles under the eyes, cut marks from her knife, etc. It’s a small gripe that’s not hugely important, just how I visualized it.
    A lack of unlockables - I know Silent Hill 2 didn’t have a lot of unlockables and it was really more of a trait of Silent Hill 3, but I would’ve liked different costumes or perhaps an overpowered weapon after beating the hardest of difficulties. I hate the chainsaw since it’s so loud, a magnum would’ve sufficed. Or even just more gag items that would add to the silliness, not just a cardboard pyramid head or dog head through preorder bonuses and/or digital purchases. Even if it was paid DLC I would’ve bought it to make subsequent playthroughs more fun.
    Overall great video, I agree with most of what you said and I’m always happy to just hear you talk. Your voice has this appeal I can’t quite describe but it’s calming and perfect for the informative approach you take to your retrospectives. Can’t wait for the next one 🥰
    Side note: Am I the only one that thinks the head sizes were too large? It added an uncanny valley to the characters, like a bobble head if you will.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  22 дня назад +1

      You might not be the only one because they just changed Maria's head size in update 1.04

  • @E_Sunbro
    @E_Sunbro 26 дней назад +3

    My only complaint with the guns in the game is that the recoil animation is piss weak. Way too slow. Needs to be far snappier.

  • @ChaoMung-t9u
    @ChaoMung-t9u 22 дня назад +1

    There is a really weird glitch (or algorithm tinkering) that prevents this video from ending up in my RUclips history (watched videos).. Which sucks because it's a great video

  • @CMc-v7z
    @CMc-v7z 26 дней назад +17

    The Observer was a good game so I am glad Bloober got the chance to make a AAA title.

    • @7RicolmE7
      @7RicolmE7 25 дней назад

      I always wondered if all the Bloober Haters, ever played that game. It literally is a Baby between Cyberpunk 2077 and Silent hill

    • @phant0mdummy
      @phant0mdummy 24 дня назад

      Sick what build did you go with? Stealth or something more combat oriented. M?

    • @CMc-v7z
      @CMc-v7z 24 дня назад

      @@phant0mdummy I tried to be a stealthy detective.

    • @CyberLance26
      @CyberLance26 23 дня назад

      @@7RicolmE7 I think most of the Bloober haters are the kind of people that think that a game cant be good and scary if you dont need to worry about getting killed all the time because thats how it was in Bloobers old games.

    • @johnmirra6707
      @johnmirra6707 23 дня назад

      Observer is their only good game haha. But honestly I think Bloober doesn't understand horror and I don't think they understood sh2 and just made an re2 remake clone with an sh2 skin.

  • @rubyjohn
    @rubyjohn 17 дней назад +2

    Splendid review as always, thank you very much.

  • @AlternateKek
    @AlternateKek 26 дней назад +39

    Hopefully now that we got SH2R we can get over the "Silent Hill is about trauma" trend we been on. Lets get back to the game being about the cult. The town simply uses personal trauma, regrets, ect to induce the paranormal delusions and hauntings.

    • @HuggieWuggies
      @HuggieWuggies 26 дней назад +1

      people on social media are just making post about how maria is Wife material and James is "him" memes..... i'm too old for this stuff man lol

    • @omstar01
      @omstar01 26 дней назад +16

      This is really interesting to me because the thing that made me love the original Silent Hill 2 is specifically that the town’s lore is secondary to how the horrors manifest as metaphor for our protagonist and the various characters. I really don’t care to learn the history of the town so much as I like seeing how it works as a force that affects people who have to go on their own journeys.
      Knowing that, I wonder if the rest of the series isn’t going to be for me. I kinda liked the self contained nature of 2 and kinda thought I’d get more of that if I played the other ones.

    • @HuggieWuggies
      @HuggieWuggies 26 дней назад +1

      ​ @omstar01 agred, i like the other silent hills (especially love SH3) for different reasons the SH2

    • @MrMetalforever5
      @MrMetalforever5 26 дней назад +11

      Kind of hard disagree, cults are really hard for me to take seriously because humans aren’t scary. I think the first game did it the best and should also draw inspiration for future games:
      There really is no cult. What you’re witnessing is the aftermath of an idiot cult that messed with things far beyond their comprehension and Marry Hason has to deal with the aftermath.

    • @ildarzaripov4854
      @ildarzaripov4854 26 дней назад +1

      ​@@HuggieWuggies new horror fans from REmakes wave and it consequences

  • @drownthepoor
    @drownthepoor 26 дней назад +1

    To me, the combat is much more difficult and engaging than the original.
    The mannequins are a real stand-out. Their hiding spots can be surprising, and you're never more closely-matched with an enemy than with the mannequins. And then...the spider-mannequins change it up altogether. You can tell they were worried they had made them too difficult because they seem to be easier to kill. But they can be hard to locate before they jump you.
    The game could genuinely stress me out, but I have it blasting through a subwoofer and 6 speakers.
    I think the remake scares me more than the original did when I was 12, but it's hard to be certain.
    I love it. I'm about 66% done, and I did notice the sexuality with Pyramid-Head has been toned down. The closet scene, and even the first fight are missing the most disturbing aspects.

  • @zeroskaterz92
    @zeroskaterz92 26 дней назад +59

    It's hilarious reading all the people butthurt over the remake being praised and successful.

    • @DatcleanMochaJo
      @DatcleanMochaJo 26 дней назад +1

      Is that it is underselling and Bloober team hasn't been renewed for another sequel?

    • @guilhermewolfman
      @guilhermewolfman 26 дней назад +15

      ​@@DatcleanMochaJo fastest selling SH game ever and also bloober already told they might go for another remake

    • @DatcleanMochaJo
      @DatcleanMochaJo 26 дней назад

      ​@@guilhermewolfman>me when I lie
      ​Selling 1 million units in three days is peanuts. And the Steam player base is at 24,000+ at a 24 hour peak. They had to convince Konami to sell on PC. Imagine how worse the numbers would be.
      Also where did you hear that?
      Babieno literally never said that. He said they want to continue working on Silent Hill but that doesn't mean they actually will. In fact psu . Com reported on Babieno saying they will continue working with Konami but not on Silent Hill.

    • @user-vc6
      @user-vc6 25 дней назад +4

      @@guilhermewolfman have you actually read the metrics??? or did you just see the article everyone saw celebrating a million units n outselling old sh games that never sold well? ( Yes silent hill excluding the first one actually sold poorly - just breaking a million),,, right now itll be lucky to break 2.2 ,,, which most triple aaa games need to break even ie alien isolation 2.2 million and dead space remake hit 2.5 apparently -both got series cancelled with these sales and despite the ZOMG a million copies article your celebrating ..... sh2 is tracking worse then deadspace remake 2 by steam metrics we have ( we also have the psn sales a 78% increase on steam sales, so were aware of what ps5 could make up for) ,,,, its max is 23 000 at launch and right now it only has 3000 players on steam,,,,,its dead in the water BUT imo sh2 remake was obviously cheaply made, looks little better then ps4 games.... you fans overpraising this 7/10 game just own the haters is even more annoying then the haters

    • @sillylittlesheepjax6009
      @sillylittlesheepjax6009 25 дней назад

      @@user-vc6 lmao you are still so butthurt that new generation will not care abt og but likes remake, it is clear that hurts your little heart

  • @jonmiller308
    @jonmiller308 26 дней назад +3

    babe whats wrong? you barely touched your avalanche reviews

  • @N4CH0L
    @N4CH0L 26 дней назад +43

    It was good, padded and definitely too long, but way better than I could've imagined

    • @Herpusderpus
      @Herpusderpus 26 дней назад +13

      I’m in the weird place where I agree it’s overly padded and yet like the padding.
      Apparently when it comes to games, I’m a chubby chaser.

    • @RoguesRetro
      @RoguesRetro 26 дней назад +4

      Padded out? Hell yes. So much that I got bored stiff halfway through the hospital and haven’t bothered to pick it up since. It’s more of an action-adventure grind than a horror game now, totally missing the whole point of Silent Hill. The original wasn’t about flashy combat or endless side quests; it was about making you feel trapped, isolated, and freaked out by things you couldn’t quite see or understand. This remake just drags on, throwing in action for action’s sake, killing the tension that made Silent Hill 2 unforgettable. Very glad I got my refund.

    • @djbeema
      @djbeema 26 дней назад +2

      I was watching an LP and the apartments dragged on forever. Jesus Christ did they pad it out

    • @zeroskaterz92
      @zeroskaterz92 26 дней назад +9

      @@RoguesRetro Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about here and it really shows.

    • @alonlyalchemist
      @alonlyalchemist 26 дней назад +8

      ​@@RoguesRetrobeing deliberately ignorant just so you don't have to admit something is sad. Cry us a river. Your take is beyond brainless

  • @CatalystOfFire
    @CatalystOfFire 25 дней назад +1

    Eddie totally RFKJr’d that guy in the refrigerator!!
    The weird thing about SH2 is that all the actors and actresses loved it before it came out, and everyone else will only have ever loved it after. They did all their voiceovers in character while mocapping.

  • @ZeroCashProductions
    @ZeroCashProductions 26 дней назад +4

    I was hoping and hoping for this video. Hell yeah!

  • @Force_Of_Habit
    @Force_Of_Habit 16 дней назад +1

    Gotta say, Bloober nailed it

  • @xclosedchainx
    @xclosedchainx 26 дней назад +4

    ITS HERE 😱

  • @SebastianReichenbach
    @SebastianReichenbach 23 дня назад +2

    Finally an opinion worth listening to.

  • @aidannation78
    @aidannation78 26 дней назад +5

    Needed more combat rolls

  • @atomdecay
    @atomdecay 11 дней назад

    James: "Where are the Mannequins? I thought I heard a Mannequin..."
    Mannequin: "I'll be in my room, making no noise & pretending that I dont exist."

  • @xendlevel
    @xendlevel 26 дней назад +14

    To this day I don’t see what’s wrong with Angela’s model except that one bad trailer shot lmao, but couldn’t agree more with the video!

    • @anglo-saxonconnor817
      @anglo-saxonconnor817 26 дней назад

      Square jawline. Girls with chubby cheeks are aplenty in the real world. Girls with a man jawline. You see what is the reaction of the world when they saw her design.

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 26 дней назад +5

      @@anglo-saxonconnor817she really doesnt look that bad at all and they updated her appearance anyways already

    • @JDelwynn
      @JDelwynn 26 дней назад +5

      It's better than the original, she's sounded and looked way too old the OG.

    • @xendlevel
      @xendlevel 26 дней назад +5

      @@JDelwynn In the original, they went too far overboard with making her look old, she looks like 40 in the original, no one whos been through abuse and was forced to grow up faster looks 40 at 19 lol

    • @gRinchY-op5vr
      @gRinchY-op5vr 26 дней назад +1

      Maria's bothers me more than Angela's, anybody else feel like Maria's head looks oversized on her body? Or they made her shoulders just really small?

  • @denisruskin348
    @denisruskin348 25 дней назад

    Finished it 2 days ago and instantly went to check whether AR has already uploaded his take on it. Well, timing wasn't perfect, but it was close. Another banger of a video, as usual.

  • @SebastianLinks
    @SebastianLinks 26 дней назад +6

    I'm just glad they didn't ham-fist a parry system into this game, its become the industry standard for pretending to have "deep and complex" combat.

    • @oliverpease6719
      @oliverpease6719 26 дней назад

      I think they should’ve at least put some form of guard in, maybe just taking less damage like the modern re games, but not outright negating damage
      (When SH3 gets a remake this’ll def happen)

    • @zeroskaterz92
      @zeroskaterz92 25 дней назад +1

      @@oliverpease6719 The game already has dodge with crazy i-frames.

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 24 дня назад

      @@oliverpease6719 that would make it too easy

  • @CatalystOfFire
    @CatalystOfFire 25 дней назад +2

    I just want a shitty, barely playable PS2 port that streams over PS+, locks up gameplay every seven minutes, and the widescreen margins say lorem ipsum in a silent hill font.

  • @bioforest6602
    @bioforest6602 26 дней назад +15

    I'm glad that I was wrong about this remake, but I'd still reccomend people play the original 2001 game first. And seeing people crap on it, either to clown on the vocal minority of old heads or because they're too closed minded to try to comprehend something that isn't like the homogenized playstyles of modern games is disappointing to me.
    But overall, I'm happy with how it turned out. Even with my nitpicks.

    • @HuggieWuggies
      @HuggieWuggies 26 дней назад +10

      the amount of people just actin like the remake is the second coming of Jesus and that the Original is unplayable is infuriating, a little of my unlinking of the remake comes from the new people that hate the original and want a remake of everything because downloading 2 files on any pc it’s to hard....

    • @BieberHole69__
      @BieberHole69__ 26 дней назад

      @@HuggieWuggieswell, not everybody has a pc and idk if you’ve checked but this game is running for about $200 for original copies. The only other option for console is HD collection and I think we may agree that is not the preferred SH experience (at least on ps3, fuck it was rough)

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 26 дней назад

      @@bioforest6602 i played the OG months before and i finished it just before the remakes combat trailer released
      And it honestly made me hate the remake for a while after seeing that combat trailer

    • @JDelwynn
      @JDelwynn 26 дней назад

      I don't recommend it, just because if you don't want to play a retro game, you don't have to. I just wish the originals were more readily available just because of game preservation.

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 24 дня назад +1

      @@JDelwynn recommending it isn’t the same as saying “YOU HAVE TO PLAY IT OR ELSE” dude

  • @cristiancortes9
    @cristiancortes9 24 дня назад +1

    For any in doubt about buying the game. Trust a survival horror fan. Its worth it. Hopefully Will End up selling enough for More SH in the future and more survival horror products in general. Coz this industry needs it. It needs to open up. Go beyond the safe bets like CODS, etc

  • @UlfgrimRaneth
    @UlfgrimRaneth 25 дней назад +4

    The Remake is a masterpiece, the original is also a masterpiece, one doesnt obscure the other, and the remake doesnt tarnish the name of the original.

  • @djtoxicdhg
    @djtoxicdhg 25 дней назад +1

    You may not get as meny views as you ones did bro but you still make absolutely amazing amazing content bro keep up the grate work and ceep doing what makes you happy 😊.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  25 дней назад +1

      Thanks dawg! That's exactly what I plan on doing. I figure the right kind of people will find this content no matter what. So I should just keep covering the topics and games that I'm passionate about.

  • @se7enwonders
    @se7enwonders 23 дня назад +4

    TLDR Warning!
    I’m gonna rant. Mainly because this is one of my favorite channels to cover SH, and I am very picky, loving only about 5 channels for this, so I feel comfortable doing so here. SH is my favorite game / series of all time and it means a lot to me. I’ve been avoiding most videos and coverage for now because it’s all overwhelming. But I’ve been waiting for the Avalanche video on this since the day the remake was announced.
    With that being said ….
    I wish the Angela thing wasn’t even mentioned in here. I hate seeing it all over social media.
    Angela is PERFECT.
    She looks like she looks. It doesn’t matter. She is a traumatized young woman who is emotionally and mentally drained and broken and exhausted. The fact that this is a focus for anyone is insane to me. She is an SA victim. What exactly is she supposed to look like? And what does a jawline have to do with anything? Guess what?
    No one has a problem with final product of James or Maria or anyone else and how they look. But we are going to say that they failed when it came to making Angela? She has a thicker face, wider jawline chubby cheeks. Like MANY women. I don’t get why anyone cares about this.
    I wanted this get this one complaint out of the way.
    Considering the fact that the “ AngelaGate” is in fact about, and have everything to do with, her level of “attractiveness”, I feel like it’s not even worth mentioning at all.
    I knew once it was released, we were going to have to deal with some ridiculous echo chamber BS. But this one really sucks.
    Maybe I shouldn’t care. But I do 🤷‍♀️
    Rant over.
    EDITED for horrible speech to text typos and weird autocorrects 😭

    • @grawman67
      @grawman67 20 дней назад +2

      I get it. I really do. And I agree. But I don't think people having an issue with something immediately means anything beyond just a disagreement. Those that have a different opinion can have a multitude of reasons why they feel that way and some may make sense.
      But I agree that Angela looks good here. She's a good representation of a young woman who is a victim of assault and seeing her and the performance reminds me well of both myself and others who are victims. The team really blew me away by how solid the remake is.

    • @se7enwonders
      @se7enwonders 15 дней назад

      @@grawman67​​⁠​⁠thank you for responding!
      I think I’m understanding what you’re saying, though correct me if you’re wrong. I never ever have an issue with different of opinion. Honestly, my love of the SH games and much of the original community is why I have changed my thoughts on much of it over the years. Difference in opinion is one thing. Tearing a character down because she is not “attractive enough“, or “designed wrong“, it’s just a whole other ball game you know?
      Constructive dialogue and debate is always welcome. This felt like… Not that.
      Somewhere around the 55:00 mark, he mentions that Twitter made much of this nightmare. And I have to agree. It was stressful knowing that a whole new generation was coming at this game with their thoughts and opinions on a game, that clearly so many of them don’t understand. That’s bad enough and I try to avoid as much as possible. But this felt just low.
      You know what’s funny, is my first issue with this remake was actually based on looks of a character. James. Do you remember what he looked like on the original teaser? OMG it was horrible. But not because he was unattractive or because it seemed like the team didn’t do well with designing western characters. It wasn’t James. It was awful lol. Luckily they listened to the community and he turned out perfect.

  • @johnnytrash2839
    @johnnytrash2839 25 дней назад +1

    I think all of us in the fan base were nervous; I waited to pre-order until the day before it dropped when I saw that early reviews were positive. It definitely exceeded my expectations and I couldn't be happier.

    • @AvalancheReviews
      @AvalancheReviews  25 дней назад +2

      Yeah I was very skeptical. Not only did it blow past my expectations, but it proved to be a really solid horror game on its own.

    • @johnnytrash2839
      @johnnytrash2839 24 дня назад

      ​@@AvalancheReviews💯 maybe Bloober has found their lane in remaking the games that inspired their other releases that didn't quite hit the mark. It's minor, but I loved that they did the "Silent Hill Ranch comic sans" Easter egg; I always appreciate fans giving fan service.

  • @_vexicon_
    @_vexicon_ 26 дней назад +5

    i'm not sure if this is a hot take but i always preferred how different the other world was in sh2 compared to 1 and 3. It wasn't a clear shift into the other world it was a slow burn and i was upset they made that change with the remake. I love the remake nonetheless

    • @CMc-v7z
      @CMc-v7z 26 дней назад +5

      It did do a gradual shift though. Like in the hotel, you would gradually see it get more and more run down before it went full burnt out husk.

    • @BronsonFan111
      @BronsonFan111 25 дней назад +1

      The hotel has a really good subtle transition. In the beginning it’s all nice and clean, then at a certain point it starts to look a little worn down. I remember thinking “wait, it wasn’t like this before?” Then the hotel just got worse and worse.

    • @_vexicon_
      @_vexicon_ 25 дней назад

      @@BronsonFan111 I loved how the puddles would build up then the windows and painting wore down in the main stairwell. I would've loved if they had done that more throughout the whole game

  • @awesomegamercz
    @awesomegamercz 15 часов назад

    What I was really happy about is that unlike the recent Resident Evil remakes, they actually remade the music instead of making a whole new ost. That's always been really impactful for me when it comes to remakes of existing media.

  • @Superunknown190
    @Superunknown190 25 дней назад +6

    Bothsiding the Angela debate I think is ridiculous. The crazies talking about how she’s hideous and couldn’t wank to her anymore were far more prevalent and disingenuous than anyone talking about how rape victims are suppose to be ugly. Like come on man, one side clearly was far more numerous and extreme than the other.

    • @themeangene
      @themeangene 25 дней назад +2

      The people defending her character model were far more toxic, harassing fans in the process. I wish activists left this hobby. They've made it a nightmare. People have been critical of character design changes going back to the nes but now activists have to make it a battle.

    • @Superunknown190
      @Superunknown190 24 дня назад +2

      @@themeangenethat is absolute garbage, I literally saw posts of people crying because they couldn’t wank to the r*pe victim anymore. You’re as delusional as a Trump voter if you believe otherwise.

    • @Superunknown190
      @Superunknown190 24 дня назад

      @@themeangene delusional.

  • @ValariaxSword
    @ValariaxSword 18 дней назад

    Every boss fight in the remake was great. I really liked the one against Eddie in the meat locker. I had headphones on and the fact that the audio was so on point that you could hear Eddie running around the room and panting and that would clue you to his location was such a nice touch. The sound design of the game was masterful.

  • @casedistorted
    @casedistorted 26 дней назад +12

    I like original SH2 simply because its voice acting is fantastic. As a middle school kid the original ending made me ball like a baby.
    The remake has lackluster voice acting for Mary/Maria, and that ruined the rest of the game for me because she was the heart and soul of what made that original so great. I still don’t think we’ve gotten voice acting that good since.

    • @sacredgear
      @sacredgear 26 дней назад +6

      I disagree. The remake has way better voice acting. The original was good.. for its time.

    • @HuggieWuggies
      @HuggieWuggies 26 дней назад +6

      The leave ending has no weight, the voice acting is atrocious.... far worse than the rest of the game for some reason... they not only delivered flat acting, but they cut half of the lines off.

    • @YeS1711
      @YeS1711 26 дней назад +4

      Completely agree with you

    • @zeroskaterz92
      @zeroskaterz92 26 дней назад

      Bullshit.

  • @potatoeOnRooftop
    @potatoeOnRooftop 20 дней назад

    As someone who played the og on the xbox when i was 15 once, coming back to this game was magical. Strangely familiar while feeling like a completely new game. I loved the atmosphere so much it's insane but i have to say for me personally it overstayed its welcome a little bit. As you said at the time i arrived at lake view i was ready to be finished already. But it was an incredible experience throughout and im thinking of going back to the original for comparison. Its a very special game!

  • @uhuhuh1966
    @uhuhuh1966 26 дней назад +13

    Sooo…what’s Boulder Punch’s deal?

    • @foosbooze263
      @foosbooze263 26 дней назад +11

      This game hurt him and Under the Mayo. They’ve never mentally recovered.

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 26 дней назад +6

      He just doesnt like it

    • @uhuhuh1966
      @uhuhuh1966 26 дней назад +8

      @@chandlerburse nah bro got a vendetta

    • @chandlerburse
      @chandlerburse 26 дней назад +11

      @ idk i ragged on Mayos podcast because i just personally dislike Mayo and honestly i am just a PoS sometimes.
      Really hate his Arkham Knight video

    • @Stanzbey69
      @Stanzbey69 26 дней назад +12

      @@chandlerburse under the mayo is the joke of the reviewing community and for good reason

  • @LOP4795
    @LOP4795 25 дней назад +1

    A regular Coke is good but sometimes people need a Diet Coke. Pretty much sums up my OG vs. Remake debate.
    If you want authentic and artsy experienced go with OG. If you want easily consumable media that’s still scary with same story go with Remake.

  • @Deepstab1
    @Deepstab1 22 дня назад +3

    Besides sales and critical acclaim the really important thing the remake achived is reintroducing the franquise to a younger audience, and it worked wonders because the original its still very good and offers a unique experience so the people that enjoyed the remake can go back and play it

    • @Kirisu__Mafuyu
      @Kirisu__Mafuyu 21 день назад

      Yes, obviously the new generations are going to try the previous titles, sureee.

  • @LoganWhite-r2r
    @LoganWhite-r2r 6 дней назад +1

    I think when it comes to Angela’s newer face, I could be wrong, but I believe she is supposed to be a teenager, which as a kid I just assumed she was a lady I. Her 30’s. So if I had to guess, they remodeled the face to look like that of a teenager. Which, at least for me, made me see her as a teen this playthrough.

  • @NonPlayableChris
    @NonPlayableChris 26 дней назад +4

    As an OG silent hill fan who played the first silent hill on a pizza hut demo and then bought, beat, love and own every silent hill that has ever been created I will say I never understood the hate for homecoming, downpour, shattered memories, origins and the room I will say I have listened to every silent hill fan over the years think that they are the deepest most understanding fan of silent hill and I always roll my eyes when people start waxing intellectual about how they understand the property better than anyone else and they exclaim which Silent hill is the best and if you like the others you are not a real fan ...... Saying all that I must admit that it's nice that you gave this game the credit it deserves. Great retrospective and all-around awesome review. side note .... I am no better than any other fan I just love every silent hill and resident evil and wish we could get back to appreciating games for the fun art that they are and not bashing others for liking what they like. great work Jared and thanks for another awesome retrospective. I can't wait to start my channel, you really inspired me to make videos, Rock On!!!

  • @jonusiescu
    @jonusiescu 22 дня назад

    Great review, when I was playing the game I was genuinely surprised that Bloober was able to create such good SH game. One note, Dead Space is not UE5 game (it is Frostbite), Callisto Protocol isn't UE5 either (although it is UE4).

  • @lVl_A_L_B_O_R_O
    @lVl_A_L_B_O_R_O 26 дней назад +4

    The game does look good, I'm impressed they did a decent job remaking it.
    If it goes on a massive sale or hits PS+ as a freebie I will probably snag it.
    I don't really fall in with the whole _remake_ thing, I've already played and own Silent Hill 2.
    If I'm going to spend *seventy bucks* on a game, it's going to be for one I haven't played before.

  • @Exmachinagamma
    @Exmachinagamma 26 дней назад

    A great vid as always! certain placement of events were where I least expected them to be which was a pleasant surprise.
    I was skeptical since the HD collection PS#/Xbox360. After I got past the white noise on Twitter/X an played it myself i was able to enjoy it.

  • @DickMasterAdamRules
    @DickMasterAdamRules 22 дня назад +3

    I am a silent hill 2 og loyalist,its literally my favorite game of all time,and i can say without a doubt,that the remake is absolutely amazing. Not as good as the og but i still think it did an absolutely phenominal job and i loved it!

  • @aliciafraser1835
    @aliciafraser1835 26 дней назад +1

    Flashlight and radio off actually does work but it only seems to work on legs and nurse, at least for me. You can actually get the nurses with a stealth takedown if you get them from behind without agroing them. It's also a little janky and sometimes they agro when they shouldn't.

    • @DanDanger665
      @DanDanger665 26 дней назад

      In the hospital, there’s a nurse captivated by the glow of a TV. I tried to sneak up on it, but a stupid lying figure saw me and ruined it. Pissed me off so much, but in a way that made me respect the enemy AI and placement more.

    • @aliciafraser1835
      @aliciafraser1835 26 дней назад +1

      ​@@DanDanger665yeah, I tend to move super slow and poke around corners in these games knowing what the devs are trying to do, so it was really fun to see just how much they like to use really clever ambush scenarios that would even catch me off guard. Though at the same time this also meant I'd sometimes catch legs trying to hide in just... Some of THE dumbest places. Like one trying to hide behind a very thin chair, all crouched down like "bro, I can clearly see you."

  • @Herpusderpus
    @Herpusderpus 26 дней назад +7

    Combat on hard mode completely changed how I played this game. If you want a challenge, hard mode is the only way. Standard mode is fun too but it’s not survival horror.

    • @Magnusfication
      @Magnusfication 26 дней назад +1

      Im doing that on a second playthroigh. Still at my first going thru the prison. I loved this section durijg the OG game, its even better now

    • @Herpusderpus
      @Herpusderpus 26 дней назад +3

      @ The spider mannequins are an awesome addition.

    • @Langtw
      @Langtw 25 дней назад +1

      Careful with calling this Survival Horror... Avalanche might hit you over the head with a fixed camera, tank controls, and limited inventory.
      I haven't gotten to the inevitable griping, but I *know* he's going to call this an action game rather than survival horror.

    • @Herpusderpus
      @Herpusderpus 25 дней назад +1

      @@Langtw Eh, I don't really care if that's his definition, that's fine. I have my own definition. If the game feels like it's trying to F*** me over with limited resources, that's survival horror. Works for me lol

    • @grawman67
      @grawman67 20 дней назад

      ​@@LangtwEh, I can see both arguments here. To me, it has elements of both and that's awesome

  • @WH250398
    @WH250398 14 дней назад

    I had a good giggle when you can't go up the stairs because of two empty plastic crates

  • @KBXband
    @KBXband 25 дней назад +4

    Seems better than the original. I knew Bloober Team wouldn't muck it up!

  • @CatalystOfFire
    @CatalystOfFire 25 дней назад +2

    Man, fuck twitter. Any artist can make their character look whatever way they want. Even a crappy dev like Bloober.

  • @zachdavis6272
    @zachdavis6272 26 дней назад +10

    Thank god dude all my friends and creators were shitting on the game and I loved it and was word wring if I was crazy because nobody spoke about it positively easily my game of the year big fan thank you for your thoughts

    • @Kirisu__Mafuyu
      @Kirisu__Mafuyu 26 дней назад +4

      To be honest that is very strange, it is literally more difficult to find negative reviews of SH2 remake than positive ones.

  • @freaknr1
    @freaknr1 23 дня назад

    I was among those really sceptical about this remake when it was first announced, but after watching you and Nitro Rad breaking down the remake in such detail, I think I should play this myself at some point, which is a big change from the "I won't toutch it with a 5 foot pole"-additude I had when the combat-trailer was dropped. It is good to see that the remake is so faithful, but also does its own thing in an effort to exist alongside the original instead of replacing it, which is what I think we were all afraid Konami was doing. I still think the delivery of the original was better for many of the characters, especially Mary and Maria, but the other actors do a good job from what I've seen, and a new generation of players getting to know the story of James Sunderland in a way that is actually functional and well constructed is objectivly a good thing. If only Konamu would port the OG games as well, then all would be right in the world.

  • @Throbingkcoc
    @Throbingkcoc 26 дней назад +5

    While I do think this is a solid remake I still think the original is better overall. It is great for people who have never played the original or for people who just don't like to play older games but something was lost in the translation unfortunately.

  • @jackiemiller7265
    @jackiemiller7265 11 дней назад

    You're not alone on the voice acting. I adore the originals in a similar way you explained, yet I also thoroughly enjoyed most of the new performances. I take issue with some of Maria's deliveries. Specifically the "Anyway!" sequence and her delivery of the final letter. They both hit differently, but in such a beautiful way, they also compliment each other.