To be fair that shouldn’t be weighed into consideration for top ranked players in the league. Whether or not one is outperforming another really should jus be based on their play alone
i dont understand the argument that we can just ignore him being the best defender in the league and 7th in scoring, and somehow hes not top 5, i think he'll be pretty conclusively top 3 by the end of the season
You can tell that they don’t watch Spurs games, the other guy wasn’t saying he’s better out of those players but he did say he does better at certain things and that Wemby is a the best two player
Just had this conversation with my cousin over the holidays. If we shook up the league, took everyone off of every team and started all over, we would pick Wemby third, maybe 4th at least. Right now, today at 20 years old.
The only two players I'm taking over wemby not factoring age are Joker and giannis. Between Luka, SGA and wemby is a toss up for the simple reason wemby is miles ahead of those 2. Wemby is more a of play finisher at this point in his career. Give him a playmaking guard who can bend defenses and wemby will average 30+. Another factor to add is that wemby blocks isn't just stopping guaranteed buckets, but he snatches most of them leading to easy transition.
Imagine averaging 25 10 4 4 , and you don’t have a seat at the table as the best player in the nba. If Ant man was averaging this then the glaze would be off the charts.
4 steals for a guard is more impressive than 4 blocks for a 7'6" big. Not that 4 blocks isn't impressive, just that 4 steals is practically unheard of.
Don't know if you are watching the spurs/nuggets game but Wemby has thrown too passes out of bounds already so that right there debunks his elite passer argument.
You will appreciate this I got on Disney plus last night and clicked nba and the only thing it had on the entire app was the knicks spurs game animated to real life! Mickey Mouse comes off the bench for the spurs and goofy for the knicks but it’s an exact replica of the game they played this year. Super cool!!!
Wemby is in a totally different league defensively; Let’s discuss the #1 issue at this moment: shot creation ….. every player that’s arguably better than Wemby can create their own shot…. Wemby can’t smoke 1, 2, 3, defenders…. Giannis can, Luka can, Joker can ect. When Wemby can do this, he will be in the MVP conversation.
Absolutely ridiculous comment. I've seen Wemby smoke 3 defenders the other day against the twolves. Watch that dunk. Are you talking about dribbling in between defenders? Wemby doesn't have to because he can shoot over the top, but he can. I've seen it in his France games and his rookie year with the Spurs. Wemby shot creation skills are like a guard, step back 3 's, nutmegs, off the backboard slams, hesi's. He has the full bag.💯💯
That’s not what I am saying; sure, Wemby can blow past defenders, most of the league can do that, sure he can shoot over defenders…. But people will say “he’s just tall” but unlike Joker, Wemby doesn’t back down defenders and score no matter what they try to do. He’s not clutch, meaning he can’t get the ball at the end of the game and just score even if you triple team him, look at the last play in the last few games and you will know exactly what I mean. I believe he WILL BE THAT, but until he does it and starts winning games people will still say someone else is better. Let’s be clear, sometime this season he figured some stuff out and he is definitely in the hunt.
@@drachimera You don't watch Spurs games. Wemby is #7 in the league in scoring. I watched Wemby play against great defenders like Davis, Giannas, Gobert, Bam etc. Wemby is way too tall to affect his shot. Wemby is clutch against the Hawks 10 in overtime, against the pelicans game winning 3, against the trailblazers game winning points, , the gold medal game in France he led the to a silver medal against the avengers, THATS REAL PRESSURE and plenty other scenarios I could name. HE HAS So many clutch blocks in the clutch in the last 5 minutes it's on RUclips. The last game against the twolves was a bone headed play call, so you think Wemby should have launched a 30ft shot with 5 seconds left. Okay 👍We will see what he does next time.
@@drachimera UNDERSTAND THIS JOKIC AT 20 YEARS OLD STATS 10ppg 7rebs Wemby at 20 years old 26ppg 10rebs 4blks and 4assists 🔥🔥🔥 Understand where JOKIC is now, WEMBy is far better than Jokic was at 20 years old.
@@SaySpawn calm down…. I enjoy watching Wemby, and yes, he is gonna be great! And yes he is great for his age. Of course there are amazing highlight reals! Just answer me this, why is he not the odds on favorite in MVP voting?
Easily top ten player because of the great play and both sides. He’s not quite top five just yet. Now he may be a top five player all around compared to the top players right now because he’s not close to the ceiling yet that’s the frustration of people are going to have. I’m trying to rank him above the proceeds top players currently I have four maybe five that are above himand they are all MVP candidates.
Nah. AD is like a poor man's wemby this season. they have the nearly same stats except defense. Also with doncic having a break, wemby is definitely 5th and still can argue about Tatum vs wemby. Either way 4-7th.
The top players are Jokic, Giannis, Shaï, Tatum and Doncic. Wemby is not currently part of this closed group. However he is definitely one of the leader of the next group : Davis, Embiid, Durant, Ball, Mitchell, James,... I think that Wemby is still behind Davis (his season is impressive), Embiid (his season is bad but he is currently coming back towards an MVP level) and Durant but surely ahead of all others. I would currently put Wemby at the ninth place of NBA; perhaps at the eight place if we consider that his defense is more valuable than the Durant's offense. But we need to take into account that Wemby will be only 21 tomorrow and he is a sophomore who is still making lots of mistakes (defensively and in his shot selection). All other players have played at least 7 years in the league. And the March/April Wemby should be much better than the December Wemby. He could still go up the MVP ladder. Btw I doubt that Doncic will manage to get his 65 games to be MVP candidate. We can make the assumption that Wemby is already at the fifth place in the MVP ladder.
Something Off Topic: There is a great Video about Former Spur Lonnie Walker by the Guys of Basket News. ruclips.net/video/vBZ_VG56EqY/видео.htmlsi=y-jCOqe_4gfdRIXC He plays very well for Zalgiris Kaunas in the Euroleague. The Crowd loves him and he looks so happy. As a European and a Spurs Fan I really enjoying watching him play for Zalgiris Kaunas.
The bulls were 38-44 in MJ’s rookie year, and they made the playoffs. Shows how deep the league was back then
Everyone arguing against wemby doesn't take his age into account, and how these "superstars" they keep mentioning were half the player at 20 wemby is
To be fair that shouldn’t be weighed into consideration for top ranked players in the league. Whether or not one is outperforming another really should jus be based on their play alone
i dont understand the argument that we can just ignore him being the best defender in the league and 7th in scoring, and somehow hes not top 5, i think he'll be pretty conclusively top 3 by the end of the season
He already is Top 3. It's Jokic, Giannis, Wemby, SGA/Luka depending on who you like at 4 and 5.
Wemby is the the best 2 way player
If you go based on everything, wemby in the top 3 for sure
Wemby might be 20% less the offensive player Luka is. But Luka is 99% less the defender player Wemby is
Giannis wasn't doing what Wemby is doing in his second year. How can you compare the two when Giannis in his 12 season!!
Wemby is top 5 to me. behind jokic. Yannis. Sga
You can tell that they don’t watch Spurs games, the other guy wasn’t saying he’s better out of those players but he did say he does better at certain things and that Wemby is a the best two player
Just had this conversation with my cousin over the holidays. If we shook up the league, took everyone off of every team and started all over, we would pick Wemby third, maybe 4th at least. Right now, today at 20 years old.
Good news is Spurs arw reportedly the team making the most noise about Fox. We gotta get him while Wemby is on his rookie contract!!
The only two players I'm taking over wemby not factoring age are Joker and giannis.
Between Luka, SGA and wemby is a toss up for the simple reason wemby is miles ahead of those 2.
Wemby is more a of play finisher at this point in his career. Give him a playmaking guard who can bend defenses and wemby will average 30+.
Another factor to add is that wemby blocks isn't just stopping guaranteed buckets, but he snatches most of them leading to easy transition.
Imagine averaging 25 10 4 4 , and you don’t have a seat at the table as the best player in the nba. If Ant man was averaging this then the glaze would be off the charts.
4 steals for a guard is more impressive than 4 blocks for a 7'6" big.
Not that 4 blocks isn't impressive, just that 4 steals is practically unheard of.
Their entire content is yelling and screaming at eachother and you can tell half of em really dont know ball.
I don't like hurting my brain but I've seen it.
Wemby is Top 3. Jokic, Giannis, Wemby, SGA, Luka but switch 4 and 5 when Luka is fully healthy.
Waiting for the vid clan
Don't know if you are watching the spurs/nuggets game but Wemby has thrown too passes out of bounds already so that right there debunks his elite passer argument.
Top 5 mvp ladder
You will appreciate this I got on Disney plus last night and clicked nba and the only thing it had on the entire app was the knicks spurs game animated to real life! Mickey Mouse comes off the bench for the spurs and goofy for the knicks but it’s an exact replica of the game they played this year. Super cool!!!
Watching the ending again even animated was hard tho 😢
Wemby is in a totally different league defensively; Let’s discuss the #1 issue at this moment: shot creation ….. every player that’s arguably better than Wemby can create their own shot…. Wemby can’t smoke 1, 2, 3, defenders…. Giannis can, Luka can, Joker can ect. When Wemby can do this, he will be in the MVP conversation.
Absolutely ridiculous comment. I've seen Wemby smoke 3 defenders the other day against the twolves. Watch that dunk. Are you talking about dribbling in between defenders? Wemby doesn't have to because he can shoot over the top, but he can. I've seen it in his France games and his rookie year with the Spurs. Wemby shot creation skills are like a guard, step back 3 's, nutmegs, off the backboard slams, hesi's. He has the full bag.💯💯
That’s not what I am saying; sure, Wemby can blow past defenders, most of the league can do that, sure he can shoot over defenders…. But people will say “he’s just tall” but unlike Joker, Wemby doesn’t back down defenders and score no matter what they try to do. He’s not clutch, meaning he can’t get the ball at the end of the game and just score even if you triple team him, look at the last play in the last few games and you will know exactly what I mean. I believe he WILL BE THAT, but until he does it and starts winning games people will still say someone else is better. Let’s be clear, sometime this season he figured some stuff out and he is definitely in the hunt.
@@drachimera You don't watch Spurs games. Wemby is #7 in the league in scoring. I watched Wemby play against great defenders like Davis, Giannas, Gobert, Bam etc. Wemby is way too tall to affect his shot. Wemby is clutch against the Hawks 10 in overtime, against the pelicans game winning 3, against the trailblazers game winning points, , the gold medal game in France he led the to a silver medal against the avengers, THATS REAL PRESSURE and plenty other scenarios I could name.
HE HAS So many clutch blocks in the clutch in the last 5 minutes it's on RUclips. The last game against the twolves was a bone headed play call, so you think Wemby should have launched a 30ft shot with 5 seconds left. Okay 👍We will see what he does next time.
@@drachimera UNDERSTAND THIS
JOKIC AT 20 YEARS OLD STATS
10ppg 7rebs
Wemby at 20 years old
26ppg 10rebs 4blks and 4assists 🔥🔥🔥
Understand where JOKIC is now, WEMBy is far better than Jokic was at 20 years old.
@@SaySpawn calm down…. I enjoy watching Wemby, and yes, he is gonna be great! And yes he is great for his age. Of course there are amazing highlight reals! Just answer me this, why is he not the odds on favorite in MVP voting?
Wemby is top 5 now. Knocked Luka out to 6
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This is a terrible podcast. Sounds like what reading instagram comments is like.
Wemby is better than Curry. Curry is 0/10 defense, 7/10 offense. Wemby 10/10 defense 5/10 offense.
That's fair
Easily top ten player because of the great play and both sides. He’s not quite top five just yet. Now he may be a top five player all around compared to the top players right now because he’s not close to the ceiling yet that’s the frustration of people are going to have. I’m trying to rank him above the proceeds top players currently I have four maybe five that are above himand they are all MVP candidates.
Wemby is top 10 to me
Joker, SJA, Giannis, Tatum, Doncic, AD arguably. TOP 10 not TOP 5.
Yeah iagree but he may be first team since Luka got injured
Nah. AD is like a poor man's wemby this season. they have the nearly same stats except defense. Also with doncic having a break, wemby is definitely 5th and still can argue about Tatum vs wemby. Either way 4-7th.
The top players are Jokic, Giannis, Shaï, Tatum and Doncic. Wemby is not currently part of this closed group.
However he is definitely one of the leader of the next group : Davis, Embiid, Durant, Ball, Mitchell, James,... I think that Wemby is still behind Davis (his season is impressive), Embiid (his season is bad but he is currently coming back towards an MVP level) and Durant but surely ahead of all others.
I would currently put Wemby at the ninth place of NBA; perhaps at the eight place if we consider that his defense is more valuable than the Durant's offense.
But we need to take into account that Wemby will be only 21 tomorrow and he is a sophomore who is still making lots of mistakes (defensively and in his shot selection). All other players have played at least 7 years in the league.
And the March/April Wemby should be much better than the December Wemby. He could still go up the MVP ladder.
Btw I doubt that Doncic will manage to get his 65 games to be MVP candidate. We can make the assumption that Wemby is already at the fifth place in the MVP ladder.
Something Off Topic:
There is a great Video about Former Spur Lonnie Walker by the Guys of Basket News.
ruclips.net/video/vBZ_VG56EqY/видео.htmlsi=y-jCOqe_4gfdRIXC
He plays very well for Zalgiris Kaunas in the Euroleague. The Crowd loves him and he looks so happy. As a European and a Spurs Fan I really enjoying watching him play for Zalgiris Kaunas.