How BAD was Victorian Coffee? (Cheap, Nasty and Fake 1800s Drink)

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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024

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  • @FactFeast
    @FactFeast  9 месяцев назад +16

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  • @peterchaloner2877
    @peterchaloner2877 9 месяцев назад +32

    CAMP coffee containing chicory and sugar was sold throughout the UK and colonies. It was my first coffee (born 1949).

    • @ladydreadqs639
      @ladydreadqs639 9 месяцев назад +4

      My grandmother used to drink that and it was my first introduction to coffee in the 70's, I still have nightmares to this day about it, it tasted as old as the label looked and it looked very early Twentieth century . Not my favorite cup of coffee.

    • @mrdanforth3744
      @mrdanforth3744 9 месяцев назад +2

      "Ready Aye Ready" was the motto on the label. I remember Camp coffee in the 1980s. The label looked to be from the 1890s.

    • @didibellini
      @didibellini 9 месяцев назад +1

      I think Camp coffee was the only affordable coffee in the early 1950s. I was a coffee lover from age 3-4 and Camp was the only coffee available. I loved it! And I think the original label is the best. Today’s generation don’t appreciate the artistic old style labels and containers. Must admit, good quality ground quality coffee is the only drink for me now though!

    • @taraelizabethdensley9475
      @taraelizabethdensley9475 5 месяцев назад +1

      My mum used it for making coffee cake

    • @NIckyFromDunedin
      @NIckyFromDunedin 5 месяцев назад

      you can still get chickory coffee in the supermarket in NZ, mum had it but i dont remember anyone drinking it, maybe she used it in baking ?

  • @SakuraAsranArt
    @SakuraAsranArt 9 месяцев назад +18

    Messing with my coffee is a death penalty level offense in my house, I wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in the 1850s 😂

  • @bigtinyhomeadventurebigtin5201
    @bigtinyhomeadventurebigtin5201 9 месяцев назад +9

    Times haven't changed that much. I remember reading a study by consumer reports that fillers are still commonly found in ground coffee. Sawdust being a big culprit. Buy Whole Beans my friends!

  • @josephbrown4768
    @josephbrown4768 9 месяцев назад +14

    Enjoying my coffee while listening to this. 👍

  • @janerkenbrack3373
    @janerkenbrack3373 9 месяцев назад +22

    This was a fascinating episode. Perhaps made more so by the roaring winter storm that has been slamming into the west side of Michigan the last two days.
    I admit that I take coffee for granted, as do most Americans who enjoy it. Though I am not the sort to buy it by the cup at the various and numerous shops that are about. I make it at home, a half-pot daily, and a whole pot on Sunday.
    I could not help to consider the proliferation of coffee shops in the cities today when you were describing the difficulty coffee vendors had finding a "pitch." I also am glad that the coffee we get today isn't half chicory.

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  9 месяцев назад +2

      Glad you found it interesting. Thank you and stay warm!

    • @GazB85
      @GazB85 9 месяцев назад +3

      I'm glad it's not half or more chicory too but as an American have you tried Chicory coffee?
      I'm British and it's actually nice.

    • @MarianneKat
      @MarianneKat 9 месяцев назад +2

      Hello from Ionia 😊 school is off for my teacher husband tomorrow with our foot of snow. Will enjoy my coffee in the am!

    • @patron8597
      @patron8597 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@GazB85it isn't bad but certainly not "getting what you paid for."

  • @mijiyoon5575
    @mijiyoon5575 9 месяцев назад +7

    One of my late Uncles used Okra seeds as coffee when he ran short on money. This would have been the 1970's US

  • @tombillard5264
    @tombillard5264 9 месяцев назад +25

    as a coffee hound couldnt wait to watch this one, must have been quite a treat for the poor and a shot of much-needed energy. i ve been homeless and nothing was better at those times than a good cup of coffee

  • @duncanself5111
    @duncanself5111 9 месяцев назад +12

    Baldrick's mud coffee

  • @caroliner2029
    @caroliner2029 9 месяцев назад +5

    Fascinating!
    Thank you.🇦🇺

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  9 месяцев назад

      That’s great! 😊

  • @MichaelGrylsk-sd5ow
    @MichaelGrylsk-sd5ow 9 месяцев назад +4

    so that meant they poor were getting vitamins in their coffee with the baked carrots and chicory it's now a extra (smooth) flavoring in instant coffee brands the chicory not the carrots.

  • @MegaLivingIt
    @MegaLivingIt 9 месяцев назад +6

    Gads! Good points. Isn't that the truth, they loved their coffee. There's remnants of a brick style 1700s coffee house on the Chesapeake harbor in Baltimore. Lots of old white clay pipes found also. The place is still standing. 🌿

  • @englishmadcow7461
    @englishmadcow7461 9 месяцев назад +2

    Your voice is so soothing as I listen to history of a London I grew up in 70s. Thank you for all you do to entertain n educate us x

  • @ktm42080
    @ktm42080 9 месяцев назад +9

    What a great episode! I drink coffee daily, almost too much, to be honest. I've had coffee with chicory, not a bad taste, but it was manufactured like that on purpose, not to try and make the coffee beans go further. I will look into "saloop", I just want to give it a chance, maybe I'll like that as well. Thanks for the video! ✌️

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  9 месяцев назад +3

      Thank you. Saloop is still drunk today in various countries. The spelling seems to vary.

  • @LerVal-x1h
    @LerVal-x1h 9 месяцев назад +10

    Great video. Great content and presentation yet again fact feast. Keep it coming

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! More to come.

  • @EAG46
    @EAG46 9 месяцев назад +54

    If it wasn't for laws, I imagine companies would try to get away with the same practices today. Thank you for reminding us that "The Good Old Days" really weren't.

    • @chudleyflusher7132
      @chudleyflusher7132 9 месяцев назад +19

      This is what to remind people of when they moan about “regulations” at large. They generally have a good reason behind them.

    • @grantlawrence611
      @grantlawrence611 9 месяцев назад +5

      They do today in poor countries around the world

    • @Jason-ke2nj
      @Jason-ke2nj 9 месяцев назад

      They do...

    • @nikolavandyk9360
      @nikolavandyk9360 9 месяцев назад

      Still happens today, they just pay lobbyists to push favorable laws in gov't. They don't change packaging and ingredients for your benefit or the environments

    • @MrArthoz
      @MrArthoz 9 месяцев назад

      Companies still do this. Look up videos on food and drink products in the USA compared to elsewhere in the world.
      Some are outright forbidden due to harmful additives used in the USA being outlawed in other regions. Drinks like oranges are flavoured while the same brand outside the USA contains actual oranges.
      You would be surprised how sneaky regulations were used to hide these scams.

  • @whiteonggoy7009
    @whiteonggoy7009 9 месяцев назад +3

    I remember in the 50s camp and bev coffee.hated it.great upload sir

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  9 месяцев назад

      I’m glad it was of interest. Thank you!

  • @mijiyoon5575
    @mijiyoon5575 9 месяцев назад +4

    Oh, this was very good, one of my favorites. Thank You *Fact Feast.* Straight out of *Dicken's*

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  9 месяцев назад +1

      That’s great Miji ☕️

  • @mauricedavis2160
    @mauricedavis2160 9 месяцев назад +2

    Coffee was expensive at that time, you have seen the price of coffee today😵‍💫

  • @ScooBdont
    @ScooBdont 9 месяцев назад +5

    I watched this while drinking a cup of Caramel coffee with a hint of Hazelnut thats grounds I acquired from a small local shop and just brewed. What a time to be alive!! 🧐👍

  • @johnn58
    @johnn58 9 месяцев назад +5

    I like coffee with chicory. I associate it with Louisiana. My parents used to live on a small island off the coast of Louisiana and back in the 1960s it was common to get coffee with chicory when you visited someone.

    • @Moonewitch
      @Moonewitch 4 месяца назад

      I love chicory in my coffee!

  • @Abraxium
    @Abraxium 9 месяцев назад +1

    1 pound in 1850-1860 is somewhere around 150-170 pounds today. An okay earning I suppose.
    In early 1700’s Sweden you’d get less than half a kilo of coffee for a farmhand’s annual salary. In 1870 you would pay 60-70 modern crowns (SEK) for a mostly unadultered kilo of coffee, that is actually quite decent as 500 grams today cost like 55 crowns.

  • @GazB85
    @GazB85 9 месяцев назад +6

    I always thought tea was more popular than coffee here in Britain?
    I know nowadays coffee is more popular.

    • @Hardrada88
      @Hardrada88 9 месяцев назад +5

      Coffee was fashionable. Back in the late 1700s it was flippin pricey too so if you went to a coffee shop (one of the first coffee shops in London is still in business) you'd be mingling with the money. This video hits the nail on the head :) victorian England was a blinding place..horrific and depressing and amazing hah

    • @GazB85
      @GazB85 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@Hardrada88Was it more expensive than today though?
      Cause getting coffee on the go is very expensive compared to making your own.

    • @anathema2325
      @anathema2325 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@GazB85coffee was a luxury for the longest time. Till about the early nineties common adult birthday gifts weren't just bottles off booze and wine like today but also cartons of cigarettes and better- than- average bags of coffee. My grandma's generation made watery as hell coffee with a little extra spoon of caramelised chicory for daily use. Strong coffee was for visitors and weekends. During the fifties and sixties it probably worked out cheaper for some people to get a single serving, reasonable quality, strong coffee. It one of those things that are better and cheaper in quantity but the difference in price falls away if made for smaller groups.

    • @GazB85
      @GazB85 9 месяцев назад

      @@anathema2325 By average you're not including UK instant coffee brands?

  • @shawnaellcey6970
    @shawnaellcey6970 9 месяцев назад +5

    A very good episode! I had never even her of Saloop before! To think now there is a Starbucks on every corner selling you a $8.00 latte! 😂 I personally also question coffee’s adulteration these days as it is a very easy thing to lessen the quality of!

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  9 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you! It’s interesting how food and drinks consumed has changed over time.

  • @Andross224
    @Andross224 6 месяцев назад +1

    In New Orleans they still put chicory in coffee. It's a nice treat for me whenever I'm in the area.

  • @williammurray1341
    @williammurray1341 9 месяцев назад

    And yet people overpaid to show others how important they thought they thought they were.

  • @anathema2325
    @anathema2325 9 месяцев назад +5

    Sahleb is still pretty nice. Arrowroot powderm. You can find it in middle eastern or turkish grocery stores. can make it into pudding or dilute it more to make the drink, add sugar nuts and raisins into it. Very calming and a nice alternative yo hot cocoa

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  9 месяцев назад +2

      Good to know!

  • @anneormston1188
    @anneormston1188 7 месяцев назад +3

    I think your voice should be used for audiobooks, so full of character.

  • @DianaJewell-jf9ep
    @DianaJewell-jf9ep 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank God for food regulation !

  • @Khatoon170
    @Khatoon170 9 месяцев назад +4

    How are you doing sir . Thank you for your wonderful cultural documentary channel. Honestly all of us know England love tea very much and have special time in a day known as tea time ( five clock tea or afternoon tea ) served with cakes , sandwiches or bread , jam . USA have iced tea sweetened with raspberry or lime . We in Arabic countries coffee is very popular drinks and symbolizes hospitality, we serve to our guests with dates . First appeared in Yemen . I just found out British people nation of coffee lovers in 17 th century. In victorian era coffee was cheap , Victorians paying fee taxes . Victorian era vending of tea and coffee in streets . Coffee stall keepers generally stand at corner of street . In fruit or meat markets . In convent garden there are less than four coffee stalls . Coffee vending is great business routes at victorian era , even working people on their way to their day labour . The best pitch in London is supposed to be at corner of duke street , Oxford street. In half pence one stall keeper . Coffee stall keepers usually sell coffee, tea some of them coco . They keep too hot milk in one large cans and they supply bread , cake in slices . If someone couldn’t get employment for six months , he sells coffee as means of living to support his family , to get bit of honesty. But honestly sir till nowadays street sellers some of them are cheaters and even restaurants owners many people have diseases or died from filthy food , home made food is butter , unfortunately people love fast food although 90 percent of Arabic RUclips channels about cooking recipes. Best wishes for you your loved ones.

    • @Khatoon170
      @Khatoon170 9 месяцев назад

      Sorry imean few Texas .

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you Khatoon. Great to know you liked the history of coffee vendors.

  • @rogerwest5793
    @rogerwest5793 9 месяцев назад

    I still don't get it.. how you can love coffee or tea😂 it hurts to drink them.. 😂

  • @PS-hv7on
    @PS-hv7on 9 месяцев назад

    So nothing much has changed, then.

  • @m.t.7237
    @m.t.7237 9 месяцев назад

    Funny how they all wore suits…

    • @dudanunesbleff
      @dudanunesbleff 9 месяцев назад

      That was the standard attire. And dresses for women.

  • @mijiyoon5575
    @mijiyoon5575 9 месяцев назад +3

    ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @juniorreid825
    @juniorreid825 9 месяцев назад

    Wow Wow that's "very reality and even horrendous cruel treated of policy by British governments in the late 19th century like Tory government to very anguished of 14 years rulers and worst negatively of campaigns"😢😢👎🏽👎🏽🤮🤮

  • @moniquesilverans3842
    @moniquesilverans3842 4 месяца назад

    J'aime bien un peu de chicorée dans le café, cela adoucit le goût et c'est bon à la santé

  • @ikelove6784
    @ikelove6784 9 месяцев назад

    Its just brown and water

  • @charlesscottkelly
    @charlesscottkelly 9 месяцев назад

    Have u tried ready meals in resent years...

  • @DSHK-wb5cn
    @DSHK-wb5cn 9 месяцев назад

    The west was just like china at one point

  • @weilam03
    @weilam03 9 месяцев назад

    All this sounds like China 2024

  • @lauratude5132
    @lauratude5132 9 месяцев назад +1

    "Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber" depicts this era well.

    • @MisanthropicOcellus
      @MisanthropicOcellus 9 месяцев назад +1

      As much as any fanciful stageplay can. There are many writings and documents accurately documenting life from the time. Sweeny Todd isn't exactly one of them.

  • @ArcAudios77
    @ArcAudios77 9 месяцев назад

    Difficult to hear...
    Some pain in listening. Heard with trust & fully accepted.
    Regards

  • @juniorreid825
    @juniorreid825 9 месяцев назад +1

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