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  • Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
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  • @PyrocynicalVEVO
    @PyrocynicalVEVO  Год назад +3727

    Just a small update, the art at the start and compilation of assets weren't meant to attack the game. More just give the devs constructive criticism so they can improve the game. Obviously doesn't go for review bombs / people refunding.

    • @bloxxer420
      @bloxxer420 Год назад +9

      hai!!!

    • @hommemerde
      @hommemerde Год назад +9

      dude, I need some ID on that hoodie you got

    • @hommemerde
      @hommemerde Год назад +3

      please, brother

    • @sticklyboi
      @sticklyboi Год назад

      チ឴ン឴ポ឴を឴マ឴ン឴コに入れたい

    • @guythatlovespotato
      @guythatlovespotato Год назад +6

      Thanks for another *HUGE DRAMA* vid, Pyro.

  • @wormzx0
    @wormzx0 Год назад +5424

    Garten of banban feels like a game based on the sketches you would find in a fnaf fan's math notebook.

    • @Not_a_bot-
      @Not_a_bot- Год назад +194

      As a fnaf fan I can confirm that statement.

    • @PixyDS
      @PixyDS Год назад +111

      Funny considering i have a friend who is a fnaf fan,he literally all the time draws golden Freddy,or at least tries to.

    • @ts4858
      @ts4858 Год назад +103

      that game would actually have an ounce of passion so no

    • @Ze_eT
      @Ze_eT Год назад +98

      "Fan" implies there is passion behind it, something which from what I can tell is completely lacking in Banban (unless you count passion for money, which there probably is more than enough of). And honestly, you underestimate FNaF fans.

    • @nitrokii
      @nitrokii Год назад +7

      I just got flashbacks

  • @whoami784
    @whoami784 Год назад +9667

    You know you failed as a horror game when even Pyro doesn't get scared let alone unclip a part of his headphone. Pyro is like the tutorial for a horror game to successfully scare people while Moistcritikal is like the final boss. What's even the point of a horror game if the TV Furry man can't even get scared

    • @metformin3154
      @metformin3154 Год назад +364

      except as pyro said, games stop being scary if you unclip part of the headphone, whereas moistcritikal only ever plays with one earbud in.

    • @nicknick493
      @nicknick493 Год назад +159

      @@metformin3154 yeah but tbf earbuds can be pretty loud

    • @Owch-
      @Owch- Год назад +98

      @@metformin3154 wait really? i thought charlie played them with headphones on, never noticed it ig

    • @warwolffritz8385
      @warwolffritz8385 Год назад +13

      This is so true

    • @DrifterHusk
      @DrifterHusk Год назад +44

      The finale boss of a horror game Is my father

  • @jakeplaysyt8000
    @jakeplaysyt8000 Год назад +1499

    The best possible path forward for the Garten of Banban team is to play on how bad it is. Really lean into to ironic humor aspect and turn that weakness into a strength. Scenes like Banban(Woman) being flattened into a PNG before being yoinked into the ceiling were hilarious and I’d absolutely play the third game if they had more of that.

    • @chucklebutt4470
      @chucklebutt4470 Год назад +168

      Totally, they've hit the jackpot by having so many eyes on their game, good or bad. They're in a great position to capitalize on it.

    • @malicioususer1837
      @malicioususer1837 Год назад +132

      Yeah, It's got a similar vibe to Baldi's basics. A game so janky and unusual, but unlike Banban the difference is it's self aware and deliberately plays into the irony. It's funny but at the same time the empty nature of the game and its lack of polish captures a unique vive and makes aspects of it unexpectedly disturbing.

    • @themustardman219
      @themustardman219 Год назад +49

      @@malicioususer1837 and baldi actually slightly does its job as a horror game

    • @giboi03
      @giboi03 Год назад +44

      I honestly thought it was a self-aware game in the beginning, seeing how awful it was gameplay-wise UNTIL THE BIRD. Like many of the comments here are saying, I felt viscerally disturbed by Opila bird in the same way Baldi did. It was a shame that most people looked over its uniqueness as an enemy ai (and also the footsteps coming up the wall suggesting its relentlessness)

    • @strange17
      @strange17 Год назад +21

      A lot of people thought it was meant to be satire, they could've just pretended that was their intention

  • @KylarTyphlosion
    @KylarTyphlosion Год назад +1784

    Bruh pyro is top tier voice actor. How can we forget the oscar worthy "THE ALIENS ARE COMING"

  • @theotv5522
    @theotv5522 Год назад +3979

    People need to separate the art from the artist. Sending death threats and doxxing devs just because you don't like their game is borderline targeted harassment no matter how much you sugarcoat it.I do hope the brothers learn from this and make better games. Remember, even Scott, the FNAF dev was criticized too, but he learned and then move on to make FNAF.

    • @twister107
      @twister107 Год назад +229

      Until someone dug their nose into his business and doxxed him because politics are a thing.

    • @MrPanGonzo
      @MrPanGonzo Год назад +426

      @@twister107 which was the biggest example of the insanity of people...

    • @offbrandbiscuit
      @offbrandbiscuit Год назад +180

      Scott didn't even learn from his criticism, he just took what people said and made it. People said the characters in his Christian games looked like creepy animatronic mascots and decided he'd just make one last game about that, and then it popped off

    • @grogcito
      @grogcito Год назад +392

      it's not borderline, it's criminal behavior. First world people really have nothing going on with their lives to gang up on a shitty game that much. Specially when there's a myriad of shitty games on steam

    • @haydenhayden
      @haydenhayden Год назад +182

      It’s not even separating art from artist, it’s just not being a completely terrible person.

  • @coolbunny
    @coolbunny Год назад +250

    I think the real problem is that the devs can't take criticism. No matter what you say, they're not gonna listen, or worse, treat you as a villain. There was no hope for improvement in the first place, which probably explains why people are completely dunking on them. What else can they do? It's not like they'll actually *learn* from it.
    Then again, the amount of hate was too much...

    • @xddude
      @xddude Год назад +16

      People aren't entitled to the devs accepting their criticisms. I think it takes a narcissistic type of person to think like that which Twitter does have a lot of.

    • @MeemahSN
      @MeemahSN Год назад +67

      @@xddude People are not entitled to have their criticism heard, but if the devs want people to like their game, they need to make a game people will LIKE. That means listening to criticism and adapting accordingly.

    • @EighmyLupin
      @EighmyLupin Год назад +13

      I mean 99% of the "threats" they are running away from Twitter from are just pointing out the game sucks.

    • @cryppi1510
      @cryppi1510 Год назад +7

      I mean, imagine for a second you release a drawing of a fan character you like. You get pinged twice every minute, someone trashing your drawing. You've gotten the point after the first three people told you your drawing is bad.
      Now imagine you have a thousand people telling you that your drawing is bad. You can be making breakfast, you're getting coffee, you check your email- it's the same thing. Someone shitting on your drawing.
      I'd delete my Twitter too.

    • @Pulstar232
      @Pulstar232 Год назад +9

      @@cryppi1510 I mean twitter is a cesspool in general, so it's not that big of a surprise. that aside, from what I usually see(so it's not exactly representative of anything), people who have 'bad drawings' do get criticism but if they accept the criticism others will tweet resources(websites, videos, etc) to help them get better. but if they respond badly they get dunked on. that's just personal anecdotes, though.

  • @23boo
    @23boo Год назад +36

    I used blender for a class in school- and I’m convinced that the brothers don’t know how blender works and how you’re able to smooth out models. You don’t need 100000 polygons for a single model just to make it smooth 😭

    • @scarlett2521
      @scarlett2521 Год назад +6

      LITERALLY, SHADE SMOOTH exists for a REASON!!!

    • @Villager_U
      @Villager_U Год назад +8

      Bet they only watch 2 episodes of Blender Guru's donut tutorial and call it a day

  • @MillzyXVI
    @MillzyXVI Год назад +2863

    respect to pyro for covering such a mature topic in exactly 8 mins

  • @reginaphalange305
    @reginaphalange305 Год назад +6723

    So proud of Pyro for rearranging the words in “Huge Garten of Banban drama” to “The Garten of Banban drama is insane”
    Edit: you’ve got to be fucking kidding me

    • @soup985
      @soup985 Год назад +615

      "Garten Of Bannan Drama Is Huge" Is way better, I love kids

    • @monsterenergypickles7434
      @monsterenergypickles7434 Год назад +380

      ​@@soup985 YOU WHAT??

    • @Heretic_real
      @Heretic_real Год назад +46

      He gotta stop using huge man

    • @michealadebz
      @michealadebz Год назад +268

      @uwumeowmeow😘😘 I’m glad your respecting his 500+ genders

    • @Haispawner
      @Haispawner Год назад +305

      @uwumeowmeow😘😘 I dunno man isn't they/them already an established gender neutral?
      Gendered pronouns are stupid to begin with, Finnish did this so much better.

  • @pepecomputers5312
    @pepecomputers5312 Год назад +54

    The reason assets sometimes have so many polygons is actually because they take the asset from the store and don't realize it's meant to be used for photorealistic renders. Then they often will run a filter to lower the quality if the asset is too heavy. That's what happened with the high polygon assets in Yandere Sim too.

  • @d00gz_
    @d00gz_ Год назад +246

    Refunding short games is an issue that happens quite a bit. Iron Lung has the same problem which is also priced the same as Garten of BanBan 2 and is about the same runtime (though is actually a good game, unlike the former).
    Maybe having a different policy for especially short games would be beneficial. Maybe a one hour refund time instead of 2 for games that are shorter than 3 hours.

    • @malpheus4299
      @malpheus4299 Год назад +65

      The difference is that the chapter in banban is designed to be just barely over two hours if you don't know what you're doing.

    • @HeavyhandedDame
      @HeavyhandedDame Год назад +78

      This game literally tries to waste as much time as possible. I'll never understand how the main mechanic is a drone that presses giant buttons that you can reach yourself. They don't deserve the hate but the game is bad enough to warrant a refund.

    • @itsjustchelsea838
      @itsjustchelsea838 Год назад +13

      @@HeavyhandedDame People new after the first free game that Part 2 wouldn't get any better. Best thing people can do is literally just not buy it. Because buying it with the intent to play and refund it is shitty.

    • @xddude
      @xddude Год назад +8

      @@malpheus4299 It's not fair to attack people over what is only speculation. Be reasonable.

    • @doesthisIookinfected
      @doesthisIookinfected Год назад +9

      @@xddude Yeh I like how everyone is assuming the brothers made chapter 2 longer just to pad out time... Liek wasn't everyone saying that part one was too short with no substance? Well they decided to fix that by adding more things for ch 2 and now everyone's saying that they're "padding runtime" like what do you ungrateful gamers want 💀

  • @bennycaustic5102
    @bennycaustic5102 Год назад +567

    Garten of BanBan looks like it was created in one of those 24 hour game creation competitions game devs do.

    • @nicholasbuffone175
      @nicholasbuffone175 Год назад +161

      You joke, but that sort of contest is what gave us Baldi's Basics (which, regardless of your opinion of it, is probably a more cohesive experience than Garten).

    • @willyiam2169
      @willyiam2169 Год назад +36

      You mean game jams?

    • @thebushbros6626
      @thebushbros6626 Год назад +10

      @@NicoNicoNessieSub It definitely isn’t the case

    • @Cunny_Lord
      @Cunny_Lord Год назад +34

      @@NicoNicoNessieSub no they only made 2d games back then. While yes they are new to 3d games, they aren't immune to criticism as it's obvious this change of direction is to cash grab.

    • @Alzarath
      @Alzarath Год назад +7

      @@NicoNicoNessieSub If people are being awful, how about they back off and realize how awful they're being without needing excuses?

  • @AlexOlinkiewicz
    @AlexOlinkiewicz Год назад +958

    Speaking as a single Indie Developer, part of me can't blame the developers for trying to make a Mascot Horror game. From my experience I have developed a couple of games that while have gotten a few Let's Plays here and there, and even gotten so many people saying they really love my games and like to see expand on them more. Issue is despite how good my games that others claim, they barely get much attention I need to really put any focus on developing. And that is an issue that a lot of developers face, if your game does not fallow a current popular trend it is gonna not get much attention, so for many devs and even ones trying to start out they are gonna just try and fallow the trend and many won't really try to see if they can be creative with their concept cause trends do die out pretty fast, so if you don't release the game soon then it miss the opportunity to get grabbed.

    • @Spoopy_man
      @Spoopy_man Год назад +74

      I wish you success man.

    • @AlexOlinkiewicz
      @AlexOlinkiewicz Год назад +60

      @@Spoopy_man thanks

    • @damienearl8302
      @damienearl8302 Год назад +11

      I think the only issue is that it has...pretty much nothing else-

    • @kolbayada4938
      @kolbayada4938 Год назад +84

      This doesn't really apply to them tho. The entire thing was made in order to generate as much traction as quickly as possible. It gives major "I did it for money" vibes. It doesn't help that the 2nd chapter is a mess from top to bottom. It's a poorly optimized game with a poor quality designs, passable at best VA that is filled with lazily designed puzzles and tries to waste as much time as possible in order to dodge possible refund and/or make an impression that the game is filled with content.

    • @AlexOlinkiewicz
      @AlexOlinkiewicz Год назад +71

      ​@@kolbayada4938 It kind of does really, like I do agree lots of this game really feels lazy and in many cases the game lacks any soul to it. But again what got them here still might be do to the issues most indie devs like myself face. Looking at the devs other games before BanBan they did seem to have actually tried to make some interesting games, but seems like they suffer the issue of not getting any attention on what they made, so they just threw up their hands and say F-it and just make a quick Mascot Horror game in hopes that somehow it gets caught in the trend. I don't agree with the direction they took and how they are doing it, but at the same time I can't blame them on why they ended up taking this path.

  • @CollidedUniverses
    @CollidedUniverses Год назад +22

    3:23 fun fact; that song is made by the Poppy Playtime devs! Another fun fact; the owner of Poppy Playtime said on Twitter that it would be okay to diddle a fictional dead child, because, despite the fact that they’re dead, they are still able to age and would be 18 by now. Final fun fact; the first sign that the creator wanted to diddle the child was subtle, but in 2017, long before the tweet in 2021-2022, meaning that, even if the tweet was correct, the creator was attracted to that child well before she was eighteen, making animations of them in sexual poses in videos targeted toward other kids. Did I mention that he wanted to screw a character from a Minecraft FNaF animation! Because he, indeed, wanted to screw a character from a Minecraft FNaF animation…that he created…as a music video for another creator.

  • @bobby6220
    @bobby6220 Год назад +392

    thing is: those 2 brothers not only made one of the worst maskot horror ever made, but they also lounched the game with a button for a merch store, so they didn't made a bad game in good fate,
    they made a bad game with the intenton of exploiting kids with less effort as possible

    • @Crygear
      @Crygear Год назад +37

      Tbf that's like the barebones formula of mascot horror

    • @yoga5631
      @yoga5631 Год назад +39

      I mean the first game is free and the second game is only 5$, of course they need other way to make revenue

    • @Memorie
      @Memorie Год назад +40

      How else are game devs supposed to make money? Charity?

    • @Villager_U
      @Villager_U Год назад +14

      @@Memorie the game budget is probably like $10 at max

    • @theghost00
      @theghost00 Год назад +48

      That Poppy game was even worse. “Lore” of the game hidden behind a NFT pay wall. Preying on kids with bloody NFTs. 🤦‍♀️

  • @thebyte0f879
    @thebyte0f879 Год назад +543

    i strongly believe that no one should be harrassed or doxxed on the internet, including the 2 brothers. Not only is it morally wrong, but it also does nothing to solve the problem. as pyro said, "there's a thousand mascot games every second, ban ban is just the only one unfortunate to get popular." There are hundreds of other mascot horror games, all equally worthy of the same criticisms, so why specifically harass 2 devs?
    ...BUT, at the same time i still believe that they deserved to be criticized for their character and behavior as devs. They have shown themselves to be extremely avoidant of criticism pointed at their game, and they literally had a merch store the second they could get the chance, with the merch quality being... questionable at best, and this to me seems ignorant at best, to greedy at worst. so no, i don't think the devs deserve to be harassed, including their families, but their behavior is questionable and deserves to be pointed out to them.

    • @dudeski6548
      @dudeski6548 Год назад

      the 2 devs are babies as well since they demand 5 dollars for a shitty half baked game in which half the assets are taken from a model store and then complain on twitter that people are refunding their game

    • @EighmyLupin
      @EighmyLupin Год назад +23

      They exaggerated the "threats" as an excuse to hide from criticism.
      This is a common tactic for people who create trash.
      (See the actors/directors of the newer SW movies and the idiots responsible for Ring of Power)

    • @justsomeonewithdifferentop7101
      @justsomeonewithdifferentop7101 Год назад +11

      They weren't unfortunate for their game getting popular, yes I know, no one should be harrassed or sent death threats. But a majority of people who are critising, harassing them is all because of their attitude and behaviour. It was their doing for making the community mad. If it was another game, with developers more mature and willing to improve, I'm sure lesser death threats would be seen.

    • @markieuzumaki7056
      @markieuzumaki7056 Год назад +17

      @@EighmyLupin bro im convinced you just want someone to hate its not that serious get help

    • @B-Cat100
      @B-Cat100 Год назад +3

      But for the cherry on top they hate on it more because they made a bajillion merch when like it immediately became popular
      And the second one costs money that’s not even worth it

  • @BeddoMakuramaru
    @BeddoMakuramaru Год назад +327

    The worst thing is, the 2nd part of the game did the exactly same plot as Poppy Playtime.
    Female version of the face of the game, plays with you in a way that's supposed to kill you and at the end you run from her and she get's killed by something you triggered.

    • @damienearl8302
      @damienearl8302 Год назад +9

      I feel this, but...I'm not sure if Kissy Missy played too major of a role in PP chapter 2-

    • @theneverwatcher9860
      @theneverwatcher9860 Год назад +66

      @@damienearl8302 You're thinking of the wrong person, they meant Mommy Long Legs

    • @damienearl8302
      @damienearl8302 Год назад +6

      @@theneverwatcher9860 Oh, I know, I was just joking around

    • @Est.-.
      @Est.-. Год назад +7

      @@damienearl8302 heh, you said pp

    • @sharkenjoyer
      @sharkenjoyer Год назад +6

      @@theneverwatcher9860 I'm not sure if kissy missy counts as the "female version" of huggy wuggy

  • @numnuts241
    @numnuts241 Год назад +16

    Here's something you should really know about that mod that adds that Kermit song.
    You see, the developers of Poppy Playtime, the game with that tall blue guy, have an animation studio. They specialize in Minecraft animations using characters from internet trends such as Among Us, Friday Night Funkin, pretty much every indie horror game, etc.
    The song is from one of their videos, Poppy Playtime vs Garten of Banban. It's a song sung by Jumbo Josh to Huggy Wuggy, the tall blue guy.
    That's right, the people who made the song about how bad indie horror has become is made by the same people behind one of the biggest indie horror games at the moment.
    The "Bruh" sound effect is also from that same video.
    I highly recommend looking into Mob Entertainment and ZAMination. It's a wild rabbit hole. It's almost Elsagate tier.

  • @MusicDecomposer
    @MusicDecomposer Год назад +41

    One thing I still like about mascot horror is the uncanny valley/liminal space feeling. It's something that the first FNaF game did very well, and then not so much in the later games.
    I think the GoB games do have uncanny character designs, something about that bug-eyed pink bird is kinda creepy. And the rainbow hallways in the 2nd game are good liminal spaces.
    That's just my opinion. There's still a lot of problems with the games so far, but they have potential. Maybe someone could remaster/remake them to fix their jankiness.

  • @WitheredDayZz
    @WitheredDayZz Год назад +413

    Trolling them is fine but straight up harassing them is too far

    • @unclebaba3463
      @unclebaba3463 Год назад +10

      Depends on what we define as harassment

    • @xacmashe3852
      @xacmashe3852 Год назад +3

      @@unclebaba3463 I agree but I have no issues believing they were harassed. The issue is HOW much harassment? I highly doubt there was a lot.

    • @Sunny-hm7ui
      @Sunny-hm7ui Год назад +27

      @@xacmashe3852 He said they were doxxed.

    • @okay.8623
      @okay.8623 Год назад +6

      @@Sunny-hm7ui That's actually messed up. People are even calling them babies even though all they pointed out was that all the "constructive criticism" was just straight up bullying. I honestly feel terrible for them, and people are making fun of the fact that a fan made game made in a week is better even though the person behind the remake had artist, modelers, music/sound designers helping them, an already pre made story, and a pretty good idea of a map. People are comparing 2 people who have to actually plan things out(even though the game is bad) to somebody who had to use tutorials, and learn the simplest things.

    • @Sunny-hm7ui
      @Sunny-hm7ui Год назад +5

      @@okay.8623There are millions of other bad indie games out there, but this one got unlucky and got popular so they are picking ONLY on this game and not the other horrible ones. I’ve went on Twitter and still believe Twitter people are dumb because in the posts that they said they were doxxed, the replies were all like: “Yeah, you’re just over exaggerating to make people feel sorry for you. Doesn’t change how we still think you’re making these games just for money! I am not going to help you with this problem because you need to learn how to make better games”. Even all the nice replies hoping that they can resolve the problem get TRASHED on by other people saying that they deserve it. People NEED to learn that The Euphoric Brothers need to survive too! They said that they’re working jobs AND in school. I believe them because they need more supporters than haters due to the amount of other games that suck. Sorry, I went on a little rampant there, I just got frustrated on how people are oblivious to other games that suck.

  • @tajee_y9936
    @tajee_y9936 Год назад +286

    I can’t believe that pyro hates garten of banban only because there weren’t any foxes or animals of that sort running towards him

    • @leeshapon
      @leeshapon Год назад +63

      not enough inflated furry farts for him 😢

    • @bunnyventi
      @bunnyventi Год назад +4

      not enough cubs

    • @funky3846
      @funky3846 Год назад +41

      ​@@bunnyventi 🤨

    • @VOLATILEVOXELS
      @VOLATILEVOXELS Год назад +24

      @@bunnyventi why do you know that terminology?

    • @_Aidelweiss_
      @_Aidelweiss_ Год назад +5

      @@VOLATILEVOXELS wtf does that term even mean bro ?

  • @TheMartyandy
    @TheMartyandy Год назад +254

    There is a weird irony in all these creators/streamers hating on the game. They are the reason these mascot horrors get as popular as they do; they are the reason this game got as popular as it did. While this game was obviously a cash grab, that is based on the trends set by indie horror creators/streamers who play and popularise anything they think will make _them_ money. Some of these people have even grown in popularity _because_ of their videos on Garten of Banban.
    It's mostly a bunch of people who upload anything and everything they can to cash in on it complaining that a developer is creating anything and everything they can to cash in on it. No ethical platform whatsoever.

    • @fanrosefabrose9457
      @fanrosefabrose9457 Год назад +3

      Content

    • @ezraf.7759
      @ezraf.7759 Год назад +19

      integrity is just a thing of the past

    • @EighmyLupin
      @EighmyLupin Год назад +8

      Uh no you don't get to blame people for pointing out the game is garbage and 99% of the content is made to stretch out the time played over 2 hours.
      It's in no way their fault the devs are soulless money grabbers.
      If you really think the devs are innocent victims maybe you should check out their other games, like the one that makes fun of victims of school shootings

    • @TheMartyandy
      @TheMartyandy Год назад +37

      @@EighmyLupin I didn't say the devs were "innocent victims". Stop arguing with straw and give it another go.
      _"99% of the content is made to stretch out the time played over 2 hours"_
      99% of the content is made to cash in on the hate train for the game. As I said at the end, it's mostly "soulless money grabbers" hating on other soulless money grabbers - the latter of which can only exist because the scene, and those who popularise content in the scene, allow them to... because it makes them money.

    • @CrystalRose1111
      @CrystalRose1111 Год назад +20

      @@EighmyLupin That’s not the point. RUclipsrs are the only reason anyone knows about this game. They’re the ones pushing it into the spotlight because it gives them views. If it was that bad you don’t have to play it. Honestly, I think the recent poppy playtime controversy got people triggered at any mascot horror game that came out. Garten of BanBan was just the icing on the cake

  • @smokebomb024
    @smokebomb024 Год назад +13

    0:33 “I have actually never seen a hate campaign stronger than for Garten of BanBan”
    *cough cough* (Velma show) *cough cough*

  • @gurigura4457
    @gurigura4457 Год назад +694

    I think Steam is pretty lenient with it's refund policy, but devs should know this going in & making a game short enough to get easily refunded (and being bad enough that people are willing to do that) is on them.

    • @UriGerhard
      @UriGerhard Год назад +35

      I think there's a guy on youtube who speedran Sekiro and got a refund

    • @gurigura4457
      @gurigura4457 Год назад +153

      @@UriGerhard If you're good enough to beat it in 2 hours you deserve a refund

    • @minecraftzocker272
      @minecraftzocker272 Год назад +58

      Nah, I dont agree. Theres good reasons NOT to stretch a game unnecessarily and sometimes theres just nothing good to add anymore. Steam policy should be less than X% of a completed (main) game and not just less than two hrs.

    • @tomglover98
      @tomglover98 Год назад +14

      @Zar Nikolaus II. no man's sky on release had a 2 hour tutorial, it took 4 hours to complete because of crashing & framerate so I couldn't get a refund. I agree with this sentiment

    • @Glacialgaming
      @Glacialgaming Год назад +87

      @@minecraftzocker272 nah steam shouldn’t allow the developer to choose the refund time lol for obvious reasons

  • @FunfettiSundae
    @FunfettiSundae Год назад +58

    Hi person who drew the art here!! I never redrew the main menu art to attack anyone. I only redrew it cause my friend Spence (creator of the mod) wanted help with the art assets. I personally have no beef with the Garten of banban devs

    • @FunfettiSundae
      @FunfettiSundae Год назад +13

      Also, thanks for complementing my art. I appreciate it, I suppose :]

    • @tylern6420
      @tylern6420 Год назад

      ​@@FunfettiSundae hi there

  • @tootyfrootygrabthebooty
    @tootyfrootygrabthebooty Год назад +8

    2:12 I remember your videos talking about 2016 drama with postal 2 gameplay in the background where all the characters where replaced with Krotchy.

  • @TheDodger11
    @TheDodger11 Год назад +17

    Indie horror games made by a handful of people have no excuses these days, be it low effort or an asset flip. When you have masterpieces like SIGNALIS, it just shows what you can do if you actually care about your game.

    • @Thisisthegreatestatofalltime
      @Thisisthegreatestatofalltime Год назад +19

      Still doesn’t excuse the harassment. Additionally not every indie game needs to be that level of quality. Obviously devs should try but everyone needs to start somewhere.

    • @TheDodger11
      @TheDodger11 Год назад +6

      @@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime Of course it doesn't, the harassments and threats to family is wholly and completely unnecassary. Internet echo chambers will always take things too far. Yes everyone starts somewhere, but people can look past a lot of things if they see the game has heart. Asset flips and trend hopping games are made with a quick buck in mind, whereas you can tell when something is a passion project.

    • @alfalldoot6715
      @alfalldoot6715 Год назад +1

      ​@@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime No it really does

    • @snkybrki
      @snkybrki Год назад +4

      ​@@alfalldoot6715 How so?

  • @50dvium47
    @50dvium47 Год назад +26

    1:36 massive jumpscare warning

  • @xYamakaze
    @xYamakaze Год назад +237

    I can't believe Pyro single-handedly destroyed a fledgling indie videogame studio

    • @10pmmemes88
      @10pmmemes88 Год назад +8

      They deserve it. It's an absolutely horrible game

    • @sharkenjoyer
      @sharkenjoyer Год назад +38

      @@10pmmemes88
      imagine trying to justify doxxing, constant harrassment, and being covered in stigma because "duhh they make bad game so me amgy"

    • @juggernautz6309
      @juggernautz6309 Год назад +3

      Yes

    • @unclebaba3463
      @unclebaba3463 Год назад +1

      ​@Evelyn phish they were people trying to exploit others for money by abusing a trend, they got burned. Now that there is a example of what can happen it will most likely become a little less likely that it will happen happen again, to sum it up, fuck around and find out.

    • @xacmashe3852
      @xacmashe3852 Год назад

      @@sharkenjoyer It's not just a bad video game it's lazily made in order to trick impressionable kids who are hyper into mascot horror into buying $60+ hoodies with a small picture of the character the dev imagined and designed in less than a minute. The games have no effort or passion put into them and if you think there is then you don't know what passion for your craft is.
      It's not "duhh they made bad game" it's "they jumped on a bandwagon and put so little effort into their game it's insulting. Not to mention the FREE episode 1 had a merch store of the least creative characters barring LITERAL STICK FIGURES on overpriced clothing. They do not AT ALL deserve to make money off of this product."
      Does it justify being doxxed or harassed? No. It absolutely justifies a stigma. If you put out a bad product it SHOULD be stigmatized as a bad product until it is improved that is how this is SUPPOSED to work. Unfortunately, even before all the harassment, the devs have already proven they are unable to take criticism, but since they got a dozen people being incredibly shitty, now you're willing to excuse all the bullshit Banban devs have done because they got insulted on the fucking internet. It's like a skit out of south park.

  • @conorfromouterspace
    @conorfromouterspace Год назад +8

    2:55 bro just discovered fucking caricature 😭

  • @grubybysior8635
    @grubybysior8635 Год назад +15

    This is not the first time they "quit" because of public backlash. I call it rebranding. And they definetly didn't make the game by themselves. A lot of people help them make those asset flips, they do the actual work that Faris brothers can't copy. They make you sign a contract that says you won't get anything from them for your work and then they have the audacity to lie and say that their games are free.

  • @YAH2121
    @YAH2121 Год назад +37

    Pyro shamelessly shilling his "Bruh" mod voice acting was really stunning and brave

    • @troin3925
      @troin3925 Год назад +4

      That was taken from a Zanimations video.

  • @Dominion69420
    @Dominion69420 Год назад +11

    3:30 just to note: that song was made by zaminations (however you spell it) who are owned by the poppy playtime devs so when the poppy playtime devs are saying its gone far enough theres a problem

  • @oracuda
    @oracuda Год назад +6

    i can recall a memory of my friend throwing gummy bears into my mouth and me flinching and blocking them with my hand, that is how much of a coward i am, and even then, i still cannot play garten of banban without laughing

  • @bean6803
    @bean6803 Год назад +47

    Honestly, I don’t see anything wrong with refunding a game after playing if you played it under two hours and did not enjoy it, no matter how much of it you completed. I agree it’s a little scummy for creators to exploit the game for content and then refund (though it’s worth noting two of the creators they called out either rebought the game or bought more than one copy), but a bad game is a bad game.

  • @fgkolol
    @fgkolol Год назад +33

    Props to pyro for rearranging the words of the title and not repeating the same format for 97 times

    • @HeavyhandedDame
      @HeavyhandedDame Год назад +2

      The algorithm loves it though. That why everyone titles their drama videos this way.

  • @Daggz
    @Daggz Год назад +94

    Hey pyro, I'm the dude who trademarked the name
    I'll be real it was a super spur of the moment decision and I do regret doing it a lot, I thought it would be a funny 2am bit to do but then once I did it the ramifications of my actions kinda started hitting in and I just went into "oh fuck" mode
    definitely a stunt I'll never do again, been a huge fan of your content for 8 years now so it was really jarring to see this, I agree with your take tho and I'll definitely not do something that stupid again for the lolz

    • @egtier4657
      @egtier4657 Год назад +6

      Hi daggz

    • @kuba_mar
      @kuba_mar Год назад +45

      Imo it wasnt even that bad, like these guys had a merch store and sequels planned from day oneand they havent even trademarked it?

    • @MultiFIREFURY
      @MultiFIREFURY Год назад +29

      @@kuba_mar it costs to trademark things. Key word there is costs. These devs don’t have the money to do it. Hence the asset flipping.

    • @doesthisIookinfected
      @doesthisIookinfected Год назад +4

      I definitly cringed when I saw the tweet but it's cool you know it was kinda messed up

    • @EighmyLupin
      @EighmyLupin Год назад +8

      ​@Multi If you can't afford to trademark or even make your own assets then you aren't ready to out your game on steam.

  • @FireBoy332
    @FireBoy332 Год назад +8

    I feel bad for the devs they're just tryna make a cool horror game and everyone's shitting all over it

  • @Kaybeeguy
    @Kaybeeguy Год назад +15

    I think if there is one thing Garten of Banban has taught me about game development, it's not to be lazy to the point where you are not even hiding the fact you are being lazy

  • @adamfenix213
    @adamfenix213 Год назад +46

    Pyro not using "huge" and "drama" in a title challenge (impossible)

    • @kirb1430
      @kirb1430 Год назад +2

      this channel is only for money, to pay for his expenses and his main channel

    • @exilemorin04
      @exilemorin04 Год назад +12

      @@kirb1430 still brain rot though , bro can’t last a video without making a video game comparison lol I miss his deep dive videos but gotta wait for that sponsor money. I’m not hating just saying it’s kinda weird he talks about topics and stuff and acts better than thou sometimes when he does this stuff

    • @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
      @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 Год назад +11

      Drama generates attention
      Huge generates inflation fetish

  • @Rhavir
    @Rhavir Год назад +88

    Pyro calling garten of banban a horror game should be a crime

    • @Allustar
      @Allustar Год назад +9

      That’s what it is. It’s a horror game. It’s a failed horror game though because it’s not scary.

    • @Rhavir
      @Rhavir Год назад +8

      @@Allustar That is so crazy it’s almost like that is the point of the joke

    • @moltenlord8733
      @moltenlord8733 Год назад +3

      @@Allustar i think it’s a massive troll

    • @Crygear
      @Crygear Год назад

      @@Rhavir a joke turns bland once you fuck it up or you fuck it up, your point is dull as the leg of a chair.

    • @Vividlyforgotten
      @Vividlyforgotten Год назад +1

      @@moltenlord8733Ai generated character chasing you down is very scary wdym

  • @chillteensie
    @chillteensie Год назад +7

    3:35 that sound is from a minecraft animation by the creators of poppy playtime
    the line "im jumbo jush brah" is from that

  • @zhdrums3872
    @zhdrums3872 Год назад +9

    0:22 seconds and Pyro does a breaking bad reference.
    Check back tomorrow to see if he beats his time next video!

  • @bunnerkins
    @bunnerkins Год назад +32

    No jokes, I like that Pyro is setting this example for his community.

  • @Revvnar
    @Revvnar Год назад +21

    If there was no drama to cover then maybe Pyro would finally make Petscop 2 video

  • @zombathinlostleghackercat5233
    @zombathinlostleghackercat5233 Год назад +7

    4:45 That's the wireframe? I thought that was the color!

  • @gomango99
    @gomango99 Год назад +9

    The white woman jumpscare actually got me lol

  • @Deagle2751
    @Deagle2751 Год назад +14

    4:18
    Pyro you're literally blind they removed the brand.

  • @friendlyneighborhoodnoob
    @friendlyneighborhoodnoob Год назад +12

    The fact that the drama lasts longer than both of their games combined is just insane

  • @ChrimsonFoxdon
    @ChrimsonFoxdon Год назад +84

    I feel really bad for the brothers honestly. Not everything you make is going to be a masterpiece, but that doesn’t mean the creators deserve to be harassed over it. I worry that this would also discourage people from making their own games

    • @mcclure3510
      @mcclure3510 Год назад +13

      Agreed. The game is schlocky and full of flaws, and the devs are following a terrible game structure at best/blatantly hungry for cash at worst, sure... but the way people have been acting, it's like people think they're personally destroying the entire horror genre. It's been way over the top since day 1 and escalating to death threats and bullying them off the platform comes as no surprise. People are whack. No clue why this jank in particular made everyone blow a fuse, but anyone participating should be ashamed

    • @Sonicphobia0601
      @Sonicphobia0601 Год назад +4

      You are also talking about the same people who made a school shooter simulator... And they also call refunding the game "a personal attack." They're not good people.

    • @dominicdo9374
      @dominicdo9374 Год назад +9

      They call refunding games “scummy” while what’s scummy is that you produce a half-baked potato piece of shit game and expect people to play it for a long time or like to where they don’t refund it. A lot of people gave hate. Also this is labeled as “HORROR”. What kind of horror is this. It’s the kind children’s channels will be milking because this thing is worse than child horror.
      However another thing is scummy is doxxing and leaking someone until they must leave the internet. That shit is fucked up.

    • @Cattermucksplatter
      @Cattermucksplatter Год назад

      They also made a scummy merch store

    • @LunarStarlightsArt
      @LunarStarlightsArt Год назад +2

      You people really need to do your research on this. People aren't harrassing them JUST BECAUSE of GoB. There's so much more to it than just that. I'm not saying that what the brothers are receiving is ok (besides criticism) I'm just tired of people thinking that they are only receiving those things because of GoB

  • @ethanmaciel7464
    @ethanmaciel7464 Год назад +20

    I wonder what has caused pyro to have such a fixation on the word “huge”

  • @JokerChany
    @JokerChany Год назад +6

    7:23 "the aliens are coming we've been compromised. Spit it out corporal! oh colonel we are so fucked."

  • @Bunny_Bill
    @Bunny_Bill Год назад +2

    I always thought Garbage of Banana was a weird game to be considered horror, but I had no idea people were being harassed for it

  • @matheusaugustodasilvasanto3171
    @matheusaugustodasilvasanto3171 Год назад +9

    Crazy that Pyro has taken over as the lead director for the development of Garten of Banban Part 3. Best of luck to him, as game development is very hard.

  • @Neftosklad
    @Neftosklad Год назад +14

    Congrats to pyro for summarizing 2-3 sentences to a 9 minute video

  • @dona2985
    @dona2985 Год назад +146

    So proud of Pyro for being able to manifest the most garbage comment section ever.

    • @JustDT851
      @JustDT851 Год назад +2

      good demo man pfp.

  • @chucklebutt4470
    @chucklebutt4470 Год назад +4

    I have to give the developers props for one thing at least: I really felt like I WAS the Banban in game. Total immersion.

  • @Cloud-rx8zl
    @Cloud-rx8zl Год назад +129

    I can't believe that Pyro was allowed to preach about his inflation fetish in front of kindergarten students, well done Pyro!

    • @wylderiot
      @wylderiot Год назад

      vile ass comment lmao

    • @xxsegaxx
      @xxsegaxx Год назад +10

      You know,I think these slander comments should be allowed but under Pyro's clickbait thumbnails because seriously,when will he stop doing this?

    • @snkybrki
      @snkybrki Год назад +4

      ​@@xxsegaxx Slander?

    • @cobaltqueenston
      @cobaltqueenston Год назад +1

      @@snkybrki i dont get it

    • @snkybrki
      @snkybrki Год назад +6

      @@cobaltqueenston Neither do I. Don't see any slander in the above comment.

  • @Idontplaytf2
    @Idontplaytf2 Год назад +7

    7:03 This is the one time Pyro isn't going to talk about the hidden replies.

  • @Zyaire286
    @Zyaire286 Год назад +8

    I personally didn’t think the Garten of Banban chapter 1 + 2 games were that bad. Not like bad-BAD games that you could find in phone apps or shady websites but bad-yet hilarious games like CDI games. Regardless of what people expectations in video games, they should never result to violence or harassment in any possible way.
    I’m not going to be the person to say that this game have some good traits or whatever, but I rather just share sympathy to a game that tries to be a good game in the end, under the developers intended way.

    • @NicoNicoNessieSub
      @NicoNicoNessieSub Год назад +4

      They feel like projects made by beginner game devs, and i kind of believe they're just teenagers or young kids trying their hand at game development. I could be wrong but part of me wants to believe they aren't being scummy or cheap but instead are just beginners to game dev

    • @bonziboyspy
      @bonziboyspy Год назад

      @@NicoNicoNessieSub idk how up to date their site is but the older brother says hes a first year college student meaning hes only about 18 and other is younger no idea how younger but the idea of teenagers trying their hand doesn't seem too far off

    • @idontknowwhatmypfpis1918
      @idontknowwhatmypfpis1918 Год назад +1

      @@NicoNicoNessieSub they've made multiple games in the past, and this ain't even their first 3D game. This is 100% a cash grab and not some new game devs making a shitty game. Is the harassment warranted? No. But that doesn't mean this isn't a bad cash-grabby game

  • @RandomStuffGaming
    @RandomStuffGaming Год назад +6

    6:51 ME CAMEO 🤤🤤

  • @FatDogie
    @FatDogie Год назад +11

    I can't believe Pyro playing Garten of BabBan killed the entire game studio.

  • @Kistekostek
    @Kistekostek Год назад +119

    Combining Pyrocinical, Pyro, Drama and Huge is not the best combination of words

  • @PikadaveStudios
    @PikadaveStudios Год назад

    3:28 this is from one of enchantedmob's animations, where huggy got depressed due to the oversaturated market, and jumbo josh sings the song to cheer huggy up
    the "brah" sound effect is another enchantedmob thing regarding jumbo josh, in their animation he constantly says it

  • @hush6149
    @hush6149 Год назад +3

    I feel like Garten of Banban is a game that gets freakier the further you go (like Bendy I guess), which is very evident when you meet Zolphius for the first time and in the third game Tamataki & Chamataki.
    Maybe they’ve been trying or unintentionally lowering our defences with monsters that aren’t very scary early on kinda like FNaF 3 and 4, but I think they’re working their way to a Happy Game kind of horror that I really hope we get to see.
    Regardless of whether or not they’re trying to edge towards unspeakable horrors the games are technically children’s horror games and children do like them, they’re not as scary as Poppy Playtime so it’s nice and beginner friendly… probably won’t stay that way tho… Tamataki & Chamataki even unsettled me a bit.

  • @generic_account8252
    @generic_account8252 Год назад +13

    love your content watching for a while and keep on the grind man

  • @downeedles9249
    @downeedles9249 Год назад +4

    Damn you made me jump so high with that jumpscare , i'm shaking so much

  • @CrazyMatthew-dm5ri
    @CrazyMatthew-dm5ri Год назад +1

    2:19
    *Nervous sweating for fear of possible drama against me*

  • @error_tryagain_4049
    @error_tryagain_4049 Год назад +3

    My take on the Garten of Banban stuff is that it's kinda stupid for people to hate on it so much (apparently to the point of harassing the devs).
    Like, sure it follows common mascot horror tropes, but the problem is that there's no incentive to create unique horror games in the first place. If people show themselves willing to play horror games containing the exact same tropes over and over again, regardless of how glitched or buggy it might be (so for example, FnaF Security Breach or Hello Neighbor), and then proceed to not showcase truly unique or interesting horror experiences, then there's no longer a reason to create a horror game that's actually different for once, because it's almost guaranteed to be a failure. On the other hand, creating a horror game with common, overused tropes seems like a great idea, because people are willing to buy and play it.
    Disclaimer: I haven't really played any of these games (mostly because I don't have the means to play them), so I can't really speak on their quality. It's mostly based on what I've seen other people talking about or commenting on.

  • @duckquack2000
    @duckquack2000 Год назад +4

    Pyro finally evolved, now it’s “Drama is Huge” instead of “Huge Drama” what amazing titles will his vocabulary come up with next?

    • @realbh4rgav
      @realbh4rgav Год назад

      "The pyrocynical drama is huge" ( Huge furry drama)

  • @ttmso
    @ttmso Год назад +4

    4:11 there's two difference, they removed the paranoic and made it darker

  • @LeonLupin
    @LeonLupin Год назад +2

    1:20 I DO THE SAAAME LMAOOOOO

  • @faust1663
    @faust1663 Год назад +8

    5:25 someone on twi- eh?

  • @CrazedFloridaMan
    @CrazedFloridaMan Год назад +77

    Pyros dad has finally quit being in jail, truly inspirational

  • @epicduck1256
    @epicduck1256 Год назад +8

    Pyro is such a youtuber tbh

  • @55minecraft
    @55minecraft Год назад +1

    Ok the funny thing about that mod that changes the steps and title music? the audio comes from an enchanted mobs video, the people who make poppy
    they had literally made the animation almost like a self aware jab at themselves and other games in the genre

  • @boyson4341
    @boyson4341 Год назад

    that how to make fnaf not scary clip set me back 8 years

  • @papalettuce
    @papalettuce Год назад +18

    awesome !!!! pyro being considerate by covering “Garten of Bannan”

  • @ranimdude
    @ranimdude Год назад +7

    Thank you for covering garten of banan

  • @Kyanite_45
    @Kyanite_45 Год назад +2

    The amount of Huge Drama that Pyro is finding is Insane, and It Keeps Getting Worse...

  • @Timelord411
    @Timelord411 6 месяцев назад +1

    Out of curiosity, where can I find the full version of the "Rainbow Connection" parody?

  • @Satisfiedpepe
    @Satisfiedpepe Год назад +43

    Can't believe Pyro was able to fit all those bananas inside himself

    • @pandim8035
      @pandim8035 Год назад

      What the actual fuck

    • @sporkyone
      @sporkyone Год назад +4

      garden of bananas

    • @Iloverodents
      @Iloverodents Год назад +1

      Ayo?

    • @Astro_Error
      @Astro_Error Год назад +2

      Ok this too far guys

    • @Ze_eT
      @Ze_eT Год назад +6

      @@Astro_Error A comment above talks about him preaching his fetish to kindergarten children. You don't know what too far is in this comment section.

  • @jonahboris6681
    @jonahboris6681 Год назад +5

    I'm no fan of Garten of Banban but it's really stupid and immature to harass and make threats to the creators!

    • @bunnyventi
      @bunnyventi Год назад +1

      yeah that was an asshole move

  • @pianosnake7028
    @pianosnake7028 Год назад +3

    Out of all the models to show off, of course Pyro uses “fat Mario model” as an example

  • @Slappa08
    @Slappa08 Год назад +4

    4:40 i thought that was it was a textured bowtie, not the navmesh of one...

  • @rubyzga6084
    @rubyzga6084 Год назад +3

    Pyro We're so sorry to hear that your favorite game, garten of banban got cancelled, you must be devastated

  • @freddydripbear5700
    @freddydripbear5700 Год назад +3

    Me when Pyro slightly changed his "huge drama" titles
    "Daring today aren't we?"

  • @PigBoy99
    @PigBoy99 Год назад

    The scariest jumpscare ever was when Pyro clicked on the Pyro class in that stream

  • @mettawatkutaninwat5411
    @mettawatkutaninwat5411 Год назад

    You can’t tricks us Pyro, we all know your TV head fursona is still Foxy lol.

  • @kamoVEVO
    @kamoVEVO Год назад +3

    I think pyro’s vocabulary is limited to “drama”, “epic” and “huge”

  • @anythingwithj
    @anythingwithj Год назад

    Funny how the green dude has that many polygons and still looks like it came from a kids game from 1998

  • @OJWizzard
    @OJWizzard Год назад +1

    I feel like I’m searching for the word huge and drama in these titles now

  • @anthhud
    @anthhud Год назад +4

    Garten of banban trying not to be boring challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

  • @OogaBooga69
    @OogaBooga69 Год назад +5

    I liked the game just for the movement of the bird thing in the first one. It was unique and honestly pretty creepy how it inspected you before charging. Plus I’m a simp for the demon appearing around the corner thing that’s arguably over done in video games

  • @kaden-sd6vb
    @kaden-sd6vb Год назад

    Remember, the remote alone has more polygons than the entirety of mario 64

  • @AlpiineSnowGriffin
    @AlpiineSnowGriffin Год назад

    You know this is the first time I've seen Pyro in several years, like I remember last watching him when I was around 12. Feeling really nostalgic rn back when I was but a child.

  • @Reaper-Ortus-Apex
    @Reaper-Ortus-Apex Год назад +4

    Garten of Bannan moment

  • @eolha
    @eolha Год назад +9

    this is truly one of the hugest dramas ever

  • @somethingfunnyyt
    @somethingfunnyyt Год назад

    I was so used to the old foxy pfp that I didn’t even realize this was a pyrocynical channel