Elgato Video Capture Unboxing & Test | IMNC
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2016
- In this HD world, it can sometimes be difficult to find information or decent products that do the job for analogue and standard definition video. While I'm the proud owner of a Game Capture HD, I needed something dedicated to my analogue needs.
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This was your 500th video! Congratulations!
keep up the good work i think i might get one for my retro games consoles.
Love the new logo tom!:D
i just noticed that i have the same camcorder at home. used it a lot when i was 6 years old (: just recently connected it to my tv and watched some old home videos. I actually quite like the low quality style of the clips "memories"
Thanks for this video. I was trying to record VHS cassettes using my HD PVR from Hauppauge and that failed miserably. After around half an hour, the previous started to stutter and the recording was choppy. I have an older WinTV PVR 150 from Hauppauge, but I was reluctant to put it back in my PC, because it had issues with some versions of Ubuntu in the past, and the Hauppauge support page tells that the current driver only supports Windows XP, Vista and 7, not Windows 10. Your video incited me to give a shot to my WinTV PVR 150. Although it failed miserably on Windows 10, it worked on Ubuntu 18.10 and that allowed me to rip a first cassette with far more success than with the HD PVR.
I'm noticing that a lot of people hate on composite video (that pesky little yellow one). It's not just this video, I see it quite a lot all over RUclips. Let me delve into this for just a second to clear a few things up.
I think one of the major contributors to this spread of knowledge is the retro gaming community. Absolutely everyone is aware that composite video is junk for gaming and I fully agree. The reason that composite falls short in gaming is the lack of pixel definition and pixel to pixel clarity due to the simple nature of the single pin (video) + shield RCA connector. It's simply not capable of carrying all the elements of a video signal needed for clear pixel to pixel definition due to the physical design. The same goes for any source that uses a digital image built up in pixels such as DVD. In my eyes, composite should have never been used for these devices. However, hating on composite for a video like this is a little odd.
Lets think about broadcast television for a second. We now live in a digital high definition world, but it wasn't a million years ago that the BBC recorded and played back programming on video tape. A common and very popular professional grade connector used all over the television post production process was regular old BNC. For those who don't know, BNC in it's original form is pretty much a fancy locking connector on the end of a slightly thicker cable that carries the good ol' composite signal. If it's good enough for the BBC, it's good enough for us to capture our camcorded home videos with. In-fact, BNC can be found on the back of lots of early home VCRs before using the phono style connector for consumer grade composite video equipment became standardised.
Analogue video tape sources such as the Hi8 recording in my video cannot be treated like a retro games console. The same goes for VHS or even laserdisc. Composite is THE quality of the video. Using any other connection would be pointless. There's a reason that S-Video outputs are missing from the majority of home video camcorders (apart from S-VHS, of course).
SCART is held up as THE connector to aim for while retro gaming. This is something that I also agree with. True RGB SCART gives a fantastic analogue image that makes composite look like absolute junk for gaming, but in the case of home video tape, it's exactly what it says on the tin. It's 'video'. It's not 'RGB'. Even if you have a SCART connector on your home video equipment, the video output portion of the connector will only ever be wired for composite output.
In this digital high definition world, I feel there's a lack of understanding towards analogue video and what's 'right' in regards to different sources. I'll finish off by saying that retro gaming and video tape sources are completely different in almost every way. What you learn from a gaming perspective cannot be applied to capturing VHS or any analogue video tape source.
You don't need the separate composite break out, just connect to the green component.
HI-8 will benefit from S-Video Vs composite.
I definitely need one of those....
you did the right thing as the game capture composite is for stuff like the ps2 and any game consoles with composite video and is not designed for tape capture so the video capture is perfect for your needs i own a lidl branded video capture device and it works brilliantly.
Great video Tom. I must get around to transferring all our home videos to digital; I started a year or so ago, then the VCR broke and by the time I'd found a replacement things got busy and I haven't had time to finish the project. I used an Ion Video2PC which is one of those cheap capture cards. It's not too bad for the price, though the audio side of it is crap; you have to back down the gain to almost zero, and stick an dtenuator between its input and the VCR or it clips like mad.
product review starts at 4:48
You can improve quality and stability of the capture using TBC.
I used for capturing my video old Panasonic mixer which I bought for 5€.
The best!!
"Wow, I wasn't expecting it to be this big!" - that's what she said. :P
For the last 6 months iam using Elgato Usb Video capture device for Video cassette (vhs) to dvd conversion, some time Elgato capture device is generating small noice on recorded videos like horizontal small squire lines. I dont know how its fix ;-)
Np: the video noice only show in vhs cassette conversion time.
it's so surreal viewing modern day technology through primitive video devices lol
Can you also select the Elgato Video Capture as camera input in Quicktime or Photobooth or related software using camera input?
Tom when's the next part to the gaming pc?
I used some 20/30€ (25/35$) capture devices such as Magix and other brand but found they use the same software with a lot of settings and some of them does not work properly. Is the quality of the capture of the Elgato so much better that it worths the 99€?
Thanks
I was digitizing from my TRV85 and I was wondering if I should choose 4:3 vs 16:9?
I have a unbranded generic £20 one I bought from Amazon UK ,but the video quality is very pixelly. Does the elgato have good video results
how do you get a stereo sound and not only mono when there is no red input for the right left audio ? Because I have the same camcorder setup ? Thanx
Couple of questions. I just bought one of these after dealing with a crappy EzCap knockoff. The EzCap starts off okay but video and audio always get out of sync after a while, especially on long videos. This device doesn't have any sync issues does it? Also, I have a Sony HandyCam (not sure of the model at the moment) and the playback quality is terrible. The entire image is warped, kind of like when you fast-forward a VHS tape, but worse. You can barely make out anything. I've tried cleaning the heads but it didn't help at all. Do you have any ideas? I'm thinking about buying a cleaning tape just in case I missed anything.
sorry im late to your comment lol but you need a time base corrector to make sure your audio and video are synced up :)
Who dislikes a video like this I can't find any thing wrong with this video
Elgato Video Capture worked fine on all of my 8mm and VHS tapes EXCEPT those VHS that were SLP and longer than 6 Hours; I found the best way to capture those VHS tapes longer than 6 Hours was to create two 4-hour files (for an 8-Hour VHS Tape). I'm not sure why the longer tapes failed, but when you let these things run, often overnight, and then check them the next day, it can add a few days to your project to troubleshoot such a real-time issue! Also, many tapes are a few minutes LONGER than what the label says, so for example if you have an 8mm 120 min tape, set the Elgato to record about 135 minutes, and trim it down later, otherwise, you may be missing the final minute and have to do it all over! - j q t -
Great video. I now know what to expect. Thanks for your effort and sharing as well. One more thing, why not buy a regular capture unit and use the Elgato software? In my hometown the Elgato unit will cost you about 100 GBP and a regular capture unit (no specific brand) about 25 GBP. Is it quality related ore something else perhaps or just the name of the brand that does make it more expensive? Thanks for your reply and have a good one!
I have both, the cheap capture unit with a free software (OBS studio) and this one. I definitely recommend Elgato. The quality of the image and the sound in comparison with the cheap capture unit is huge.
You know, if you have one of those later model VHS/DVD combo recorders with HDMI out, you can record upscaled VHS content with the Elgato Game Capture HD. You'll need to feed it into splitter or HDMI converter with a HDMI 1.3 input to break the copy protection, but it'll get the job done. The Elgato Game Capture HD was designed mainly with component and HDMI content in mind. FYI, I have a Panasonic EZ48 which upscales VHS to 1080p over HDMI.
Which HDMI converter breaks the copyprotection ? why 1.3 , does other versions work ?
Does you EZ48 upscale do wonders to video ?
@@guzelovalish Sorry for the lateness of your reply. Absolutely. I swear by it. Often whenever a new video converter comes on the market, I inevitably see people asking if it works with VHS. As a guy who cleans and transfers VHS for a living, I strongly recommend that if you want a HDMI solution for VHS you should buy a DVD/VHS combo recorder with HDMI out. The Panasonic EZ48 is an excellent device for that purpose.
I just bought one for my 2018 MacBook.
It records but all my footage is jittery.
And I can’t get it to stop.
I have a question about that capture card. The Elgato website says the resulting mp4 is 640x480. Does that apply to PAL content? I have a similar device by kworld, the resulting files it records are 720x480 for NTSC and 720x576 for PAL, which are the digital equivalent resolutions for VHS. 640x480 is more of a PC resolution. I'm not too keen on down converting a PAL video's vertical resolution to the lower res of NTSC.
640x480 is default. It supports also 720*576, you have to change settings.
Capture quality is really goot. The software delivered with the device contains good deinterlace algorithm.
@@seboc1when I owned this card I don’t see the options to change the resolution to 720x480 or 720x576, only 640x360.
Cool video Tom! Keep up the awesome work! :D Also what about the move? I thought you got the keys?
+ChazerMC Thanks man! Unfortunately we didn't get the keys. If you want the latest, keep an eye on the Vlog channel, I've posted a lot of news over there :)
+ItsMyNaturalColour What is happening about the PowerBook g3 and the PowerBook G4
+AndrewCatt A lot of what I want to do this year is tie up loose ends. There are several things around here (including the PowerBooks) that need my attention. If you head over to the IMNC Facebook page (linked in description) there's a post detailing some of the highlight upload plans for this year.
+ItsMyNaturalColour Cool Thanks BTW Love the boy in the vlog. Here's an idea, Make a channel just for Eli and put up videos that you make with him in it that you want to share like when you go to the park or something, that would be cool.
+ItsMyNaturalColour And also are you able to talk on email for a little bit tomorrow because i want to talk to you about something.
Hi. Was wondering how does the elgato compare to those cheap $20 usb capture devices they sell on Amazon? I mean for $80 your getting a software license for the Elgato software? Or is there better tech in that device? Thanks
No comparison the cheap devices are rubbish, Ive tried them, the Elgato works great, worth the money
oh thats the original :OO
I just bought one to rip VHS and laserdisc, especially since my laserdisc player has s video!
So did the laserdisc project work well? That's why I have purchased one of these adaptors. I love Canadian animation which is almost exclusively available on laserdisc. Oh, love the Nipper icon. I love antique record players as well.
@@toonman361 Thanks dude! Yes, the laserdiscs looked amazing after ripping them via s-video! Highly recommended if your player has it!
Hello. Do you know if this will work if plugged into an old TV that plays VHS tapes? I have a lot of old home videos that I need to safeguard before the tapes rot.
If that TV has either composite or SCART out, then yes. However if I recall correctly most of those TVs with video players only had SCART in.
It may be worth picking up a VCR from eBay (roughly £25 will get you one) and using that with this capture card.
Some reviews in amazon says that this elegato have bad quality video result and is same equal as cheap capture usb devices..
I was almost bought it but when i see these reviews i didnt
How is really that device?
I'd like to be able to capture DIGITAL imagery from my Mini DV camcorder to my laptop., but neither my laptop or old PC has a Firewire card.
Will the Elgato be able to successfully capture and reproduce the DIGITAL imagery?
If not, then what are my options?
Many thanks for a good review.
You could try adding a Firewire card to a desktop or via the ExpressCard slot on a laptop.
The other option is loaning a friend's PC or sending the tapes out to a service.
What about stretching? Pal resulution is not 4:3... (4:3,2)
How does It cope with Macro-Vision?.
Does this work for video game systems?
Hello, What is the diference between El gato capture vs Easycap?
Easycap is shaky :( Elgato mvp.
Where did you get it from? I been looking online and they are really expensive compared to a EZCap.
+Graham R don't buy an EzCap they have terrible ADC's
*Slot1Gamer* What is ADC?
Nice upload Tom, where did you buy your Elgato Video Capture device from and roughly how much was it!, as can't seem to find any on sale.
Amazon
@@tahirahmed33 Thanks I have one now though!
@@PromediaUkPhotography I will buying one , as I have a cheap £20 Chinese generic VHS to DVD converter ,the quality of output video saved on the pc is very bad ,very pixelly , Does the elgato video capture have good output video ,is it pixelly?
@@tahirahmed33 I just got one and will be testing it with some Hi8 analog tapes very soon.
@@tromboneJTS it's very good I converted dozens of vhs tapes 📼 for a friend ,charging him £10 per VHS tapes ,I converted them to dvds , I used dvdxtodvd , this elgato is million times better than the cheap crappy vhs converter adapters on eBay and Amazon,bad quality them , them compared to elgato is like comparing night and day!
Does the Elgato Video Capture also record gameplay videos
Yes it does if you have a wii
my camcorder has s-video out.. but the elgato s-video plug is also out??? i can't even plug it into my camcorder..
The "colours" are an inherent side effect of composite video, it's not really possible to eliminate it
+Steven Piper (PiperTheGreat) Ah, not the case. As I've said to others on this thread, composite is the ideal connection to use for sources such as this camcorder. Since this video, I've cleaned my camcorder heads and the strange colours are now gone :)
doesn't the hi8 handycam have firewire?
+Slot1Gamer Nowp, you're probably thinking of Digital8 camcorders. They use the same tapes but record digitally. This is an analogue camcorder.
ItsMyNaturalColour oh hmm, my memory is fuzzier than I remember :)
More than just plug and play, unfortunately.Installing the driver software is a lot of trouble
But what if you get it all connected up, and the GET STARTED menu says "device could not be initiated"? What next if you've installed and installed ad nauseum.
MP4-???
5:24 that's what she said
does it come with the software
You will need to download the soft ware from their website.
Composite is nasty. Does the analog stuff you have not have SCART?
+Sean Metivier wouldn't make any difference, ive never heard of a video tape system that uses RGB scart, it will more than likely be composite scart
+Sean Metivier The reputation that composite has of being 'nasty' is only really applicable while gaming or while using composite for a source that supports superior video capabilities such as SVHS or DVD. Composite falls short when pixel to pixel clarity and separation are needed to improve picture quality. Video tapes would not benefit from this in any way as there are no 'pixels' in the first place. In the case of this camcorder, or anything similar such as standard VHS, composite is absolutely fine. As Slot1Gamer says, video tapes cannot utilise RGB scart at all, so even if the equipment has a physical scart connector, it'll just be wired for composite.
Donna Lukowski
always try to use s-video, cause composite is the most shitty video output known to man.
+SilverX95 also you should get a tape cleaner for your camcorder maybe the heads are dirty and maybe a splitter so you can get left and right mono instead of just one channel
+SilverX95 S-Video would not benefit a Hi8 recording in any way. Composite is absolutely fine and the only viable option if your source recording format isn't capable of recording anything better. If I was using S-VHS (the format that brought S-Video connectors to the masses) then it'd be a different story. Same goes for all games consoles (because pixel to pixel clarity is important while gaming), DVD, DV, Digital television, all of those devices would benefit from the jump to S-Video, but for VHS and 8mm Video / Hi8, composite it is.
In terms of a tape cleaner, I think they're a bit of a waste of money so I just manually clean the heads. Since this video I've cleaned my heads and things have improved a lot.
Audio wise, as I addressed in the video, I prefer to double up the mono signal in post. It's very easy to do digitally and it eliminates gain and interference problems associated with passive RCA adaptors.
+ItsMyNaturalColour Are you sure S-video wouldn't benefit Hi8? It was introduced as a competitor to S-VHS(-C), and I think it uses the same kind of signal too (not sure about that though). I would agree that it probably won't matter too much for camcorder recordings though.
1st Comment. Can you do another video on your power book G3 Tom?
and 12" PowerBook g4
Nope, not the first comment. The first comment was from 4 mins ago.
+Touhou Fan XP I didn't see any comment when I loaded the vid so that's why I said 1st comment.
+AndrewCatt ok. Though your still early. I would of been first and said it but the up to date RUclips app is broken.
+Touhou Fan XP I know. It's is Very Annoying.
Seriously, why does this cost 100 dollars? There are video capture cards that do exactly the same, have the same connections and have the same ammount of settings in the software and they cost 20 to 30 dollars.
its not for gnu/linux :(
why not get windows or mac.
AndrewCatt
of course, i have windows already, i am just saying
+CrissCHG Oh OK. Yeah I use linux SOMETIMES only for dev stuff.
AndrewCatt
Yes that's good, i´d like to use linux as a main os
Please please please buy a new knife haha
FYI : skip the first 4 MINUTES as its complete faffing on about a completely unrelated elgato product for some reason...
You didn't say how to download the software!
You talk too much
you don't have to watch
Talk too much BS
you don't have to watch
i just noticed that i have the same camcorder at home. used it a lot when i was 6 years old (: just recently connected it to my tv and watched some old home videos. I actually quite like the low quality style of the clips "memories"