Great video ! - Fun tip - you can dilute it 10-40 percent with acetone for a different "smaller" texture and thinner coats for covering parts where you might not need a super chunky thick coating. I usually go 20 percent acetone ( does not change hardener mix ratio ) for things like metal fender liners / skid plates etc . . . 30-40 percent acetone works for a really thin coat for driveshafts / axle housing etc . . . when first sprayed it will not look very textured but just wait ! it will "pull" as it sets and wrinkle/bump up. This grip of this brand is . . .tenacious ... when applied diluted so long as the surface is scuffed and clean and shown in the video. The grips is so good that if you have to redo a part - you will likely need a propane torch to remove it for a redo. 😜 Also - if you thin it - add a little time for additional coats and handling -
@@bobscat-wj4ub Yeah - I can't imagine many pro shops would use this stuff to actually line a bed - at least I would think not. It's been my experience that it's great for covering everything that is lower impact and it's easy to repair. You can put it on thin for something like a fender liner and it won't add tons of weight to any panels. If I need something like a pickup bed done - I'll get it done commercially. I've used raptor liner on step rails / as an undercoating / on axle housing etc . . . and also to refresh a repaired utility trailer that needed a repaint. It's worked great for all of that. I literally thought the exact same thing when I saw the title of this video though . . .😆
While sanding etc get yourself a 20" box fan then fabricat a holder for a 20x20 furnace filter on the back. You can even duct tape it on. Run the fan near your work area blowing away and it will filter and capture a lot of the flying particles and it's dirt cheap
This was the last video I watched before lining an entire International Scout today. I’ve been stressing over doing this for a while now and I couldn’t be happier with the results. The drop coat tip is the Bees Knees!! That one tip alone is best advice ever! Thank you!!
@@SoWellGarage This tip was huge for me as well, I've been binge watching videos like this so I don't screw up my vehicle when I do this to it, and I see a lot of video's that get the tiger stripes, or you can just see that the coat is not even and was worried about this. I have a hummer and will be doing a 2 tone, black accessories with a desert tan. I was debating tearing things down like you did here but...if I'm going to do it, may as well do it right the first time. What compressor are you using; or suggest using?
@@willdrivesu7914 I'm using a 26 gallon craftsman. It's old and charges back up a few times while spraying a whole vehicle but it works damn good! I'd say try around that size but also get an air/water separator! Makes sure none of the moisture in the tank makes it into your liner
@@SoWellGarage Awesome, I'll check that out when I hit the hardware store. Thanks for the fast response and additional information, greatly appreciated 👍
@@willdrivesu7914 of course! I really enjoy being to help out others on their projects! I got my compressor used for 150 bucks and it's paid for itself many times over! If I hadn't just woken up I would've got back to you sooner 😅
Magnificent! Drop coat......the best trick in the book. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!! Listen to this fella, folks. He knows what he's talking about.
I sprayed bed liners professionally for a handful of years and this was in 2003-2007 and it was a two part crazy overly complicated system. So happy to see how far things have come. But yeah on the old machine you would turn the fluid feed down and air up and mist it to the customers texture liking holding it closer or farther away. We were also spraying a guarantee of 1/4” liner all the way around unless specified otherwise. I hated doing over the rail trucks because it was tacky looking. Had to use string tape and be on your game before it all set up to make sure to cut those fine lines. If you had a dual feed style gun which there are plenty of that will spray raptor specifically you can make it gloss and flat, chunky and fat or look like nice and fine grip tape from a skateboard. The gun they supply is legit and works great with beautiful results. Sold on the raptor liner all day though for the price and color mix ability as well.
Glad to see you’re wearing the proper mask shoes you have sense .. I see way too many vids on here using this stuff without a respirator mask. I did the bed of my truck about 8 years ago and just sold the truck and it’s still looks like the day I did it . This shit is great and is high quality
Great tip with the drop coat; I kinda used to use the same technique for air brushing or rattle canning fine scale military models when I was younger and never thought of applying it to anything else
Mahalo Brah for the pro tips. I can use it as good knowledge base to reapply some corrosion proofing to my older vehicles, like a 1998 Jeep WJ.. btw, I left Ewa Beach 45yrs ago. I have brothers who attended Campbell HS.. and a redheaded Afro-haired haole hanae brother (Tom Clements). He and my younger brother Joe graduated Campbell in 1976. Congratulations for putting Ewa Beach on the map... ALOHA Brah
Have you had any experience with the raptor liner products that come in spray cans? I'm going to be doing a motorcycle frame in white raptor liner and have gone all the way down to bare metal, sealed/primered it, painted it, and am now to the bed liner point. I'm sure I'll need at least 3 cans to get proper coverage on all of the parts but I've seen very little in the way of reviews of the canned product.
Great question! I've become friends with many of my customers and I've had no complaints. Seen plenty of my projects now 2-3 years later and it looks just as good as when I sprayed it
Great video. Getting ready to do the bed of my truck and the bumpers from my jeep. Your top coat trick is awesome. Thanks for the tips they will all come in handy. Aloha.
Did my running boards with their rattle cans. My cousin didn't believe i did it myself. Only the beginning part got me a little nervous, i didn't really wanna sand my new side steps lol
That's so awesome man! And yeah, it's always scary sanding something brand new 🤣 I had a guy bring me like a two or three year old 4 runner and he wanted the whole thing done. Definitely hard to put sand paper to that one 🤣
In all painting the better the prep work the better your end results. After your initial base coat (drop coat) the 10-15 min wait is off gassing, and doing so will help your second coat adhere properly to your base coat and create stronger bond. And if you do this all coats your finished product will end up very durable, all of this is even more important with a rattle can paint job.
My man! Thank you so much for a very instructional video that was so helpful in doing right the first time. After the prep the drop coat is absolutely the key to making the job look professional! What a difference it made when I then put the drop coat on the bumper, 100% Thanks again.
@@SoWellGarage too bad you weren't in New York LOL I'm painting my tire car for the first time ever in Raptor liner I've never painted a call before my life but I'm going for it LOL thanks for the tips on the video great work man much respect from East New York Brooklyn
Actually the pros are using HVLP guns with some reducer to spray raptor liner. Guess you didnt get the memo. It also reduces consumption by about 25% and gets a finer spray.
Not after every coat but if you end up spraying a lot after about an hour and half you start getting solid chunks in the spray. I had probably 5-6 spray guns so I'd swap out every few bottle
I have a question, if you finish your first coat and wait 45 minutes to gas off and say you have half a bottle left does that bottle start hardening also or do you need to mix a new bottle
@@jamesdodson9417 it definitely can, you'll notice after about an hour to an hour and a half you'll get big "blobs" coming out with your normal texture. I had multiple guns so it wasn't a problem for me. I'd swap to a clean gun but for the normal person that's not the norm
I'm about to do my 5x10 trailer deck, for my wash rig in blue metallic raptor liner. I was quoted to have the rest of the trailer, (which is completely torn down and I'm actually adding 2.5 feet to it in the front for a burner unit ) almost $2,000 to have it rhino-lined, professionally. Now I'm thinking about just doing it all myself, with the raptor liner. I just absolutely HATE prep work, and there's a lot of it, due to pre-existing rust and areas of thick layers of paint. Just curious to see how, it will hold up on wood. It's completely dry and I plan on sanding it, priming it, sanding it again, using the adhesion promoter and then spraying the blue metallic raptor liner. Have you ever used it on wood? Thanks for the awesome video 👍
Great question and I'm so sorry that I didn't get to your question sooner. I actually have! And I surprisingly did great! We sealed it with a wood primer and then did the coating. It was for a DIY truck box and it lasted at least a year without issues. The guy I did it for came back for something else and the box still looked great
Great video. About to do my Land Rover defender so watching vids for tips. So there’s no need for primer, unless applying to bare metal? And the ‘drop coat’ is effectively your second coat? So 2 coats is enough? Cheers.
It seems that monstaliner produces better finished product vs raptor liner . It doesn't take any real work to get it even looking . If you want it to look shiny shoot it with 2k urethane clear while it's still inside the chemical adhesion window ...you can shoot it after but it would need scuffed for adhesion . I'm doing my xj in predator green and pyroclastic on the axles and under body may do the exo cage in pyro as well . I will be using 2k clear on it to shine it up some .
So, if you were doing a whole truck....would you do the drop coat before the second/third coat? After the second/third coat? like at the very end. Or after each coat?
Great question, I've done it a few different ways. What seems to work best is when you finish your 2nd or 3rd coat on a panel do a drop coat, move to the next closest panel and do a drop coat while blending your drop coat into the panel you just did a drop coat on. Once you've done this for the whole vehicle, do one full drop coat on the whole vehicle. This is what's worked the best for me
What cleaner did you use? And… didn’t it get all over your floor and walls and toolbox and cars in the driveway? I figured you would have to cover everything.
Great question, I use mineral spirits and/or wax and grease remover. Also the over spray does get everywhere. The floors were easy enough to pressure wash off but I'd highly recommend masking and covering as much as possible
Wow, this was a great video. Does the drop coat method work with spray cans of Herculiner as well? I like the finer texture of Herculiner spray cans and just have a few small projects
I discovered the 'drop coat" by accident. was spraying Raptor rattle can on a jeep fridge platform and was about 4 coats in of frustrating tiger stripes no matter what i did. so i pulled the spray can about 15" or more away and noticed some of the stripes were going away, but now i need another can to add a couple more drop coats only to finish all the tiger stripes.
Great questions, I use mineral spirits to clean after prep, for the gun I remove the bottle from the gun, let it dry, then peel it off. Out of everything I've found that the easiest. I use a seal pick to clean the inside of the Sprayer barrel
nice work man, that dust coat makes a big difference. Is there alot of fumes on this raptor liner when spraying? Im about to do my rockers in garage which roughly looks same size as your garage. But its winter here at cannot leave door open. Have a mask aswell but if its too much maybe i need to wait till spring to spray my truck rockers. Thanks
Have you ever used raptor liner on the back of the fold down seat on the plastic portion I would like to try that to prevent the dogs from slipping around on it any idea if that might work
I'm currently using a 26 gallon compressor and it works well but does recharge a few times during a big job. If you can afford to go bigger, go bigger but if what you have is around 26 gallon it'll work just fine
Curious, how hard is it to remove this stuff ? I didn’t get all the rust off around my wheel wells and I want to remove some of the paint and redo. I did a darker gray on the bottom and let her on the top so I might just do the entire bottom again
Raptor liner recommends their etching primer for bare metal and adheasion promoter for plastics / painted surfaces. It looks like he sanded the bumpers, wiped them down with thinner and shot them with Raptor Liner. I have used it a lot, its good stuff !
Public opinion question: Would just the front and back bumpers look good with raptor liner on a black Jeep Liberty KK? And would I have to take them off or tape them?
So great question, I've done a bit of painting on chrome and what I would recommend is getting an epoxy primer. Sand it with 180-220 and then epoxy primer it. Maybe if go a little lower with the grit to get really good adhesion but the epoxy primer will help stick to the chrome
Great tips. What is your thoughts on clear coat? I’m getting ready to raptor liner my jeep flat fenders and rock sliders. I’m thinking the clear will add protection and keep its gloss.
I think it's honestly a great idea, I've had a few customers ask for that but the cost has always scared them away from it(since I will only use legit expensive clear coat). So I've yet to do it BUT I think it would definitely be worth a shot! Maybe try a small piece of wood or metal and see how you like it!
@@SoWellGarage automotive clear would sound like a waste $$ wise. Why not use rattle can eastwood 2k spray cans?? $20-30 per can with built in hardener, ive seen people paint entire cars with this stuff.
So when spraying a complete vehicle, if putting on two coats, you would put on the first followed by a drop coat, then the second coat followed by a drop coat? Thank you.
Great question! No need for a drop coat on the first one, the drop coat is so that the texture look the same through out the whole truck. So once all the coats are complete, then do your drop coat. If you would like to see examples make sure to check out my instagram @sowellgarage. I have pictures of a jeep, 4runner, and tundra I fully coated
I'm thinking about doing my step bars on my Colorado, can the plastic step pads be done as well on those? And if so is there any special process for doing them?
So you definitely can, I would use a scotch bright pad to hit the plastic and then use adhesion promoter on it. If you use sand paper use like 220 so you're not gouging the plastic
@@SoWellGarage cool man thanks. I have a 2003 Tacoma and the paint is shot but only the top of the roof and good. It's black and I want to Raptor Line it black or more if a grey metal look. Thanks for the pointer.
Thank you for the video. I have 2 questions, how much product would I need to do the total exterior of my 1995 extended cab Mazda B4000 (It is really just a Ford Ranger) Can I spray liner on a polished aluminum tailgate cap that holds my plastic liner onto my tailgate? Thank you for your time.
Great question! For the truck I'd assume about 6-8 bottles would be perfect (1.5-2 gallons), as for the aluminum you'd want to hit that really hard with sand paper, 120 grit and sand till it's evenly matte. For sure use adhesion promoter!
@@gilcruz7869 so I would wait about 10-15 minutes but if you're doing your entire vehicle, by the time you get to the next panel the other is basically ready for another coat.
So generally for truck beds I'll use a Scotch Brite pad attachment on a sander/angle grinder to be able to get into hard to reach areas. After that I'll use 120-220 for the rest of the truck bed. On the steps I used 220 all the way through sense there wasn't any hard to reach places. Since the bed liner is thick you don't need to go any higher than 220. I hope this helps!
@@SoWellGarage Not at the moment, but thanks a lot for that offer. Now I only have to hope that I bought enough Raptor for my 2004 Dodge RAM 1500 :D But from what I read on other videos, 8 bottles should be fine.
@@SoWellGarage So I painted my car today but really went out of paint in the end. I got it nearly all covered, but on the lower half there are some areas where the paint doesn't cover the color underneath. Do you think I can cover this up with Raptor from the rattle can? I'm not sure if I will be able to get an air compressor etc. anytime soon. Or should I better get a compressor and cover it up? Thanks a lot for your help!
Just finish white tint raptor lining my Ram, problem is I ran out of liner and need another coat, kit should be here in 4 days..would I need to sand to apply a 2nd coat or just wipe everything down? If so what grit would you recommend?
@@SoWellGarage awesome thank you, one more question, is there anyway to fix heavy spots, I've got one spot on an edge that got way too much liner, do I have to cut it out or can I just sand that spot to knock down and shoot back over it? Thanks again
Great question, I'm honestly not sure. Even after putting the cap back on the reaction has started and by the end of the day it'll be solid. I'd say you have about a 2 hour window of working time but it also depends on the amount. A thinner or smaller amount will dry faster
Thank you! And yes! You just want to go heavier on the sanding. Chrome is a pain to stick to so make sure to it has a good scratch to it and then use adhesion promoter!
@@SoWellGarage if i wanted to spray my mostly plastic car, and I dont want to take it apart.. i realize there are certain hard to reach places that i cannot sand. could i use the epoxy adhesion promoter instead of sanding?
Aloha braddah, where do you purchase your raptor products on oahu? Amazon doesn't ship them to oahu. Looking for the tintable kit, adhesion promoter and etch primer. Mahalo 🤙🏽
Im SO sorry I missed your comment! either way is totally fine! what I generally do is if it's bare metal, I use a primer then adhesion promoter, if it's not bare metal, just promoter!
Great question! If you can't get one and want to do roll on, basically do the same thing. Roll it on and let it tack up, get a clean roller then go back over it to texture it nicely and evenly!
Im wanting to do a two tone graphic design on my truck. I'm finding it to ne very difficult to find anyone who has done "graphics" using liner. My question is what is the magic moment in where to remove the tape to reveal the graphic.
That's a great question, I think it all depends on how intricate the design is. I haven't personally had to do one but if I'd try letting it tack up and almost dry then peel. Probably about 20-30 minutes dry time
That's a great question, it does have a little bit of flex to it but not a lot. I've used it on wood and seems to adhere and flex fine with wood bit I'm curious how "flexible" it would be with steel
@@gunnerneikoify I tried but honestly became more work than I felt it was worth it. When it dries it just flakes off the tarp and then makes a bigger mess. I don't mind the pressure washing 🤣
@@SoWellGarage I just buy two rolls of cheapo painters plastic $5.00 for each roll of 10ft x 20ft plastic, lay it out on my garage floor and drive the truck in on top of it. When I'm all finished, back the truck out, fold up and then roll up all the plastic sheeting and throw it in the garbage can. I know exactly what you mean by the bedliner flaking off and getting everywhere but by folding up the plastic and rolling it up, I never ever have that problem. And I own a big Hotsy power washer but the method I use is so simple, quick and clean that I have no reason to break out the Hotsy. But to each their own, what works best for one person doesn't mean it works best for the other person...
Hey man I’m doing a regular cab f250 I stripped the whole truck to bare metal I’m going to apply 2k epoxy primer then the custom coat bed liner which is raptor should I sand the primer if I I’m in the time window for the primer or should I just paint over the primer
If I were you I'd sand the primer slightly. Just to knock off anything that's not fully attached. But raptor liner is very forgiving so it doesn't need to be perfectly flat or super smooth. I'd also recommend the adhesion promoter that raptor liner sells
If you purchase your epoxy sealer from SPI or local dealer, you get a 7 day open window to spray your Raptor liner over it. As the sealer cures chemically, the Raptor liner will grab onto it with an unreal bond. The plus side is the SPI chemically seals your bed better than most on the market. SPI Epoxy sealer is extremely popular in the truck and auto restoration aftermarket, because you can spray it, come in the next day and spray feather fill to sand this high build or use with filler to sand a needed. All will re-spray it if they break thru to metal. Require oil and grease remover (Like Everything) sand with 80 grit, wipe again, air and tack, spray the epoxy and follow with your Raptor. Hope this help give you an option. ASE Master Tech since 1978 - Retired P.S. SPI Universal Clear is on more cars at the “Pebble Beach” car show hands down. Made in the US, call and the owner answer the phone, no advertising!
@@deankay4434 hey man well I got the Kirker primer 2k expoxy it’s like 130 dollars a gallon with activator I’ll definitely follow your instructions. I scuffed the truck to bare metal with a abrasive grinder 3m bad material like the scuff pads but it put nice marks in the middle smooth but has the scratches so I’m ready to go I just heard I gotta get rust dissolver spray the whole truck let it cure so the epoxy primer sticks like a tank to the metal as much as possible
If your are talking a rust converter like Eastwood sells, or something else. Southwest Rod and Customs with Pete Hugh’s, has been in the Dallas/Fort Worth area for 28+ years before moving to Moab, UT. But, he has a video where he takes a door outside and mixes muriatic acid (Diluted Hydrochloric Acid) scrubs it down with lots of PPE, scotch bright then uses vinegar water mix to clean off before shooting epoxy. Vinegar alone is a weak acid while muriatic is much stronger. The stuff the sell is a phousporic acid mix that does the same thing, as depending on what you read is good or not so good. It comes down to your wallet, the area that needs fixed, but no one want rust under a top coat of anything unless you don’t plan on keeping it. I think the grinding pad you were talking about is like a thick scotch bright with almost epoxy holding its shape. Sold by different companies now, never used one but some get good results in videos. I just don’t want to spent $60 for something I can do for $10. Best of luck with your project! ASE Master since 1978-Retired
@@deankay4434 thanks man yeah it’s kinda like what Eastwood sells but it’s pricer a bit better results reviews it’s called rustblast by KBS coatings I called Eastwood today and they said that it’s good to use a rust dissolver coating on bare metal before you paint on it especially in Florida where I live the expoxy primer it gonna stick great to it
I would suggest some pvc pipe and painters plastic…build you a cheap spray booth to contain the overspray! Nothing like the “hell hath no fury like” an angry wife seeing the mess after a year of painting parts in the garage. They don’t tell you about the excellent concrete adhesion as well 🤣
Is there a concern spraying Raptor Liner over Rustoleum Self Etch Primer? The tech I talked to warned me against it, as it wouldn't adhere. I've got several spots already preped with Self Etch, since I went down to bare metal with sanding. Should I use a 2K primer over the self etch first?
I know this is old, but I prepped and painted my entire 95 Jeep Wrangler with Raptor. I used Rustoleum Self Etch on all metal and used adhesion promoter on plastic. It's been 3 years now and it looks like the day I sprayed it. No adhesion problems whatsoever.
When I'm spraying parts with threaded holes I plug the holes with ear plugs. They seal up the threads great.
That's a fantastic idea!!!
Great video ! - Fun tip - you can dilute it 10-40 percent with acetone for a different "smaller" texture and thinner coats for covering parts where you might not need a super chunky thick coating. I usually go 20 percent acetone ( does not change hardener mix ratio ) for things like metal fender liners / skid plates etc . . . 30-40 percent acetone works for a really thin coat for driveshafts / axle housing etc . . . when first sprayed it will not look very textured but just wait ! it will "pull" as it sets and wrinkle/bump up. This grip of this brand is . . .tenacious ... when applied diluted so long as the surface is scuffed and clean and shown in the video. The grips is so good that if you have to redo a part - you will likely need a propane torch to remove it for a redo. 😜
Also - if you thin it - add a little time for additional coats and handling -
@@bobscat-wj4ub Yeah - I can't imagine many pro shops would use this stuff to actually line a bed - at least I would think not. It's been my experience that it's great for covering everything that is lower impact and it's easy to repair. You can put it on thin for something like a fender liner and it won't add tons of weight to any panels. If I need something like a pickup bed done - I'll get it done commercially. I've used raptor liner on step rails / as an undercoating / on axle housing etc . . . and also to refresh a repaired utility trailer that needed a repaint. It's worked great for all of that. I literally thought the exact same thing when I saw the title of this video though . . .😆
While sanding etc get yourself a 20" box fan then fabricat a holder for a 20x20 furnace filter on the back. You can even duct tape it on. Run the fan near your work area blowing away and it will filter and capture a lot of the flying particles and it's dirt cheap
This was the last video I watched before lining an entire International Scout today. I’ve been stressing over doing this for a while now and I couldn’t be happier with the results. The drop coat tip is the Bees Knees!! That one tip alone is best advice ever! Thank you!!
That makes me so happy to know I was able to help in some way! I'd love to see some pics!
@@SoWellGarage This tip was huge for me as well, I've been binge watching videos like this so I don't screw up my vehicle when I do this to it, and I see a lot of video's that get the tiger stripes, or you can just see that the coat is not even and was worried about this. I have a hummer and will be doing a 2 tone, black accessories with a desert tan. I was debating tearing things down like you did here but...if I'm going to do it, may as well do it right the first time. What compressor are you using; or suggest using?
@@willdrivesu7914 I'm using a 26 gallon craftsman. It's old and charges back up a few times while spraying a whole vehicle but it works damn good! I'd say try around that size but also get an air/water separator! Makes sure none of the moisture in the tank makes it into your liner
@@SoWellGarage Awesome, I'll check that out when I hit the hardware store. Thanks for the fast response and additional information, greatly appreciated 👍
@@willdrivesu7914 of course! I really enjoy being to help out others on their projects! I got my compressor used for 150 bucks and it's paid for itself many times over! If I hadn't just woken up I would've got back to you sooner 😅
Magnificent!
Drop coat......the best trick in the book. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!!
Listen to this fella, folks. He knows what he's talking about.
I appreciate the kind words! Thank you so much
I sprayed bed liners professionally for a handful of years and this was in 2003-2007 and it was a two part crazy overly complicated system. So happy to see how far things have come. But yeah on the old machine you would turn the fluid feed down and air up and mist it to the customers texture liking holding it closer or farther away. We were also spraying a guarantee of 1/4” liner all the way around unless specified otherwise. I hated doing over the rail trucks because it was tacky looking. Had to use string tape and be on your game before it all set up to make sure to cut those fine lines. If you had a dual feed style gun which there are plenty of that will spray raptor specifically you can make it gloss and flat, chunky and fat or look like nice and fine grip tape from a skateboard. The gun they supply is legit and works great with beautiful results. Sold on the raptor liner all day though for the price and color mix ability as well.
You mean the cheapo gun or the professional gun?
Glad to see you’re wearing the proper mask shoes you have sense .. I see way too many vids on here using this stuff without a respirator mask. I did the bed of my truck about 8 years ago and just sold the truck and it’s still looks like the day I did it . This shit is great and is high quality
Great tip with the drop coat; I kinda used to use the same technique for air brushing or rattle canning fine scale military models when I was younger and never thought of applying it to anything else
Mahalo Brah for the pro tips. I can use it as good knowledge base to reapply some corrosion proofing to my older vehicles, like a 1998 Jeep WJ.. btw, I left Ewa Beach 45yrs ago. I have brothers who attended Campbell HS.. and a redheaded Afro-haired haole hanae brother (Tom Clements). He and my younger brother Joe graduated Campbell in 1976. Congratulations for putting Ewa Beach on the map... ALOHA Brah
Thank you so much man! I appreciate the support! I really hope this video helps in your future projects!!!
Another tip is clean your gun between coats so you don’t get random clumps and the texture stays consistent .
Just finished raptor lining two bumpers on a jeep Rubicon your video helped quite a bit
That's awesome man!!! Glad I could help!
Best raptor application I’ve seen
Have you had any experience with the raptor liner products that come in spray cans? I'm going to be doing a motorcycle frame in white raptor liner and have gone all the way down to bare metal, sealed/primered it, painted it, and am now to the bed liner point. I'm sure I'll need at least 3 cans to get proper coverage on all of the parts but I've seen very little in the way of reviews of the canned product.
Thanks for sharing you seem like a cool guy I'm saving this video to my " Raptor liner " playlist for future projects ..
Thanks man! I appreciate the support and hope the video comes in handy!
I dig your style of working-great videos-Im going to be doing a new Bull Bar on my truck & running boards 5" round with bed linner. -Tim in MI
Excellent tips. How is the Raptor liner holding up after a couple of years??
Great question! I've become friends with many of my customers and I've had no complaints. Seen plenty of my projects now 2-3 years later and it looks just as good as when I sprayed it
Great video. Getting ready to do the bed of my truck and the bumpers from my jeep. Your top coat trick is awesome. Thanks for the tips they will all come in handy. Aloha.
I really hope it helps! I do the same thing for truck beds and get the same results as the video. Best of luck to you!
Nice ! One french guy use aluminium powder in additive for a more fine texture and grip so crazy result you did with nothing
Awesome! Good on you for helping all of us out with the tips that truly make our projects awesome!👊👍
Thanks man!! I truly appreciate the support!
Did my running boards with their rattle cans. My cousin didn't believe i did it myself. Only the beginning part got me a little nervous, i didn't really wanna sand my new side steps lol
That's so awesome man! And yeah, it's always scary sanding something brand new 🤣 I had a guy bring me like a two or three year old 4 runner and he wanted the whole thing done. Definitely hard to put sand paper to that one 🤣
Rattle can liners is crap. Raptor Liner is 2 part urethane and will last the life of the truck.
In all painting the better the prep work the better your end results. After your initial base coat (drop coat) the 10-15 min wait is off gassing, and doing so will help your second coat adhere properly to your base coat and create stronger bond. And if you do this all coats your finished product will end up very durable, all of this is even more important with a rattle can paint job.
Couldn't agree more! Good advice to follow
I actually just got my raptor liner to my ram bed let’s see 👍💪🏽 you got a new follower from Miami 💪🏽
Hell yeah man! Thanks for the support! Let me know if you run into any issues
Ty, kooks like just over 3 years and im more confident in doing my jeep bumpers. 1st coat drying now
My man! Thank you so much for a very instructional video that was so helpful in doing right the first time. After the prep the drop coat is absolutely the key to making the job look professional! What a difference it made when I then put the drop coat on the bumper, 100%
Thanks again.
No problem! Glad I could help!!!
You should wait at least 1 hour before handling and it takes at least 7 days to fully cure. But, other than that, he does a great how to.
You had me at Hawaii ......... thanks for posting I am researching how to apply Raptor for my cargo trailer your video helped! Aloha
Thanks man!! I appreciate the support and I'm so happy this helped!!
@@SoWellGarage too bad you weren't in New York LOL I'm painting my tire car for the first time ever in Raptor liner I've never painted a call before my life but I'm going for it LOL thanks for the tips on the video great work man much respect from East New York Brooklyn
Great job, glad I watched. I'm am about to do my new bumpers on my commander👍💪
Static cleaning cloths are really great for cleaning up something you sanded tf outta
We used that technique in LineX bed lining but we called it dusting the bed.
Actually the pros are using HVLP guns with some reducer to spray raptor liner.
Guess you didnt get the memo.
It also reduces consumption by about 25% and gets a finer spray.
Awesome work. Great video. Do you have to clean your gun after every coat?
Not after every coat but if you end up spraying a lot after about an hour and half you start getting solid chunks in the spray. I had probably 5-6 spray guns so I'd swap out every few bottle
I have a question, if you finish your first coat and wait 45 minutes to gas off and say you have half a bottle left does that bottle start hardening also or do you need to mix a new bottle
@@jamesdodson9417 it definitely can, you'll notice after about an hour to an hour and a half you'll get big "blobs" coming out with your normal texture. I had multiple guns so it wasn't a problem for me. I'd swap to a clean gun but for the normal person that's not the norm
Great video. What PSI are you running for the initial application and what PSI for the drop coat? Great results.
What pressure do you personally spray raptor at…..I’m after doing my van but I’m looking for a smoother finish.
I'm about to do my 5x10 trailer deck, for my wash rig in blue metallic raptor liner. I was quoted to have the rest of the trailer, (which is completely torn down and I'm actually adding 2.5 feet to it in the front for a burner unit ) almost $2,000 to have it rhino-lined, professionally. Now I'm thinking about just doing it all myself, with the raptor liner. I just absolutely HATE prep work, and there's a lot of it, due to pre-existing rust and areas of thick layers of paint. Just curious to see how, it will hold up on wood. It's completely dry and I plan on sanding it, priming it, sanding it again, using the adhesion promoter and then spraying the blue metallic raptor liner.
Have you ever used it on wood?
Thanks for the awesome video 👍
Great question and I'm so sorry that I didn't get to your question sooner. I actually have! And I surprisingly did great! We sealed it with a wood primer and then did the coating. It was for a DIY truck box and it lasted at least a year without issues. The guy I did it for came back for something else and the box still looked great
Great video. About to do my Land Rover defender so watching vids for tips. So there’s no need for primer, unless applying to bare metal? And the ‘drop coat’ is effectively your second coat? So 2 coats is enough?
Cheers.
That was cool. It makes it look like granite!
It seems that monstaliner produces better finished product vs raptor liner . It doesn't take any real work to get it even looking . If you want it to look shiny shoot it with 2k urethane clear while it's still inside the chemical adhesion window ...you can shoot it after but it would need scuffed for adhesion . I'm doing my xj in predator green and pyroclastic on the axles and under body may do the exo cage in pyro as well . I will be using 2k clear on it to shine it up some .
Wish you had made this vid before I did my Bronco. The drop coat is the hack. Next job!!
Sorry I couldn't help on your first job. Hopefully it'll help the next time around!!!
How much do you charge to spray running boards? Looks great btw 👌
So, if you were doing a whole truck....would you do the drop coat before the second/third coat? After the second/third coat? like at the very end. Or after each coat?
Great question, I've done it a few different ways. What seems to work best is when you finish your 2nd or 3rd coat on a panel do a drop coat, move to the next closest panel and do a drop coat while blending your drop coat into the panel you just did a drop coat on. Once you've done this for the whole vehicle, do one full drop coat on the whole vehicle. This is what's worked the best for me
What cleaner did you use? And… didn’t it get all over your floor and walls and toolbox and cars in the driveway? I figured you would have to cover everything.
Great question, I use mineral spirits and/or wax and grease remover. Also the over spray does get everywhere. The floors were easy enough to pressure wash off but I'd highly recommend masking and covering as much as possible
Wow, this was a great video. Does the drop coat method work with spray cans of Herculiner as well? I like the finer texture of Herculiner spray cans and just have a few small projects
I can't for sure say but maybe try it on a small piece of ply wood and see! I'd love to know what you find out!
You could also try a higher psi on the raptor liner gun to get a finer texture! The more psi the more it's gonna try to atomize the spray
@@SoWellGarage I’ll give it a try tomorrow! What would be the max psi on the Raptor gun? Thanks for replying so quick!
@@jscatt6123 no problem! And I believe on the box it says 75psi but I may be mistaken.
I discovered the 'drop coat" by accident. was spraying Raptor rattle can on a jeep fridge platform and was about 4 coats in of frustrating tiger stripes no matter what i did. so i pulled the spray can about 15" or more away and noticed some of the stripes were going away, but now i need another can to add a couple more drop coats only to finish all the tiger stripes.
Badass man, 2 quick questions, what do you use to clean the parts after sanding, what do you use to clean your gun?
Great questions, I use mineral spirits to clean after prep, for the gun I remove the bottle from the gun, let it dry, then peel it off. Out of everything I've found that the easiest. I use a seal pick to clean the inside of the Sprayer barrel
great tips ! on the fun , how much material is going out? ( the small knob)
Great video and information, I'm gonna be doing it for my side steps, how many cans of raptor liner did you use ? Thanks
The kits are sold by the gallon (4 bottles) for a full set of side steps I'd say half a gallon(2 bottles)
@@SoWellGarage thanks
How does this product hold up on metal that will see a good deal of foot traffic? Applying to the flat surface of a step-up on my truck. Thanks!
Glad I watched this video, got rid of my striping on the final coat.
That's awesome! This is why I made the video. I'm so happy it helped out!
nice work man, that dust coat makes a big difference. Is there alot of fumes on this raptor liner when spraying? Im about to do my rockers in garage which roughly looks same size as your garage. But its winter here at cannot leave door open. Have a mask aswell but if its too much maybe i need to wait till spring to spray my truck rockers. Thanks
Great question! As long as you have a respiratory, you should be fine!
Thanks for the tips. If you are planning on spraying 2 coats on a vehicle, do you suggest a drop coat after each coat?
Sorry for getting back to you so late! So I don't suggest a drop cost after each coat. Just one drop coat at the end as a final coat
I used to live in Ewa Beach - Pupu Place. My house was broken into every time I left town.
Have you ever used raptor liner on the back of the fold down seat on the plastic portion I would like to try that to prevent the dogs from slipping around on it any idea if that might work
Great question! I haven't but it's basically the same process and I'd add adhesion promoter. Should give you the results you're looking for!
What size air compressor do you recommend for shooting liner?
I'm currently using a 26 gallon compressor and it works well but does recharge a few times during a big job. If you can afford to go bigger, go bigger but if what you have is around 26 gallon it'll work just fine
Curious, how hard is it to remove this stuff ? I didn’t get all the rust off around my wheel wells and I want to remove some of the paint and redo. I did a darker gray on the bottom and let her on the top so I might just do the entire bottom again
What are you spraying immediately prior to spraying the liner? Primer? If so what kind?
Raptor liner recommends their etching primer for bare metal and adheasion promoter for plastics / painted surfaces. It looks like he sanded the bumpers, wiped them down with thinner and shot them with Raptor Liner. I have used it a lot, its good stuff !
Public opinion question: Would just the front and back bumpers look good with raptor liner on a black Jeep Liberty KK? And would I have to take them off or tape them?
I think it could look good! See as how the bumpers integrate into the fenders I'd just tape
@@SoWellGarage excellent! We’re going to do it, I have some paint damage on the rear bumper 🤭 RL is the perfect solution. Thanks for the fast response
@@michwenz8413 not a problem! Hope it goes well! So well 😂
Nice Job! What size compressor do I need to apply this product?
I'm not sure what the minimum size would be but I'm running a 26 gallon craftsman compressor. I hope this helps some!
@@SoWellGarage Great Help! Thank You, Sir.
Would raptor liner work over top of chrome? Would it adhere?
So great question, I've done a bit of painting on chrome and what I would recommend is getting an epoxy primer. Sand it with 180-220 and then epoxy primer it. Maybe if go a little lower with the grit to get really good adhesion but the epoxy primer will help stick to the chrome
damn that looks incredible
What's the spray can you do before the air gun?
That's adhesion promoter. There's a few different brands and sometimes it is hard to come by but Sherwin Williams automotive stores should have it
Great tips.
What is your thoughts on clear coat? I’m getting ready to raptor liner my jeep flat fenders and rock sliders.
I’m thinking the clear will add protection and keep its gloss.
I think it's honestly a great idea, I've had a few customers ask for that but the cost has always scared them away from it(since I will only use legit expensive clear coat). So I've yet to do it BUT I think it would definitely be worth a shot! Maybe try a small piece of wood or metal and see how you like it!
@@SoWellGarage automotive clear would sound like a waste $$ wise. Why not use rattle can eastwood 2k spray cans?? $20-30 per can with built in hardener, ive seen people paint entire cars with this stuff.
So when spraying a complete vehicle, if putting on two coats, you would put on the first followed by a drop coat, then the second coat followed by a drop coat? Thank you.
Great question! No need for a drop coat on the first one, the drop coat is so that the texture look the same through out the whole truck. So once all the coats are complete, then do your drop coat. If you would like to see examples make sure to check out my instagram @sowellgarage. I have pictures of a jeep, 4runner, and tundra I fully coated
I'm thinking about doing my step bars on my Colorado, can the plastic step pads be done as well on those? And if so is there any special process for doing them?
So you definitely can, I would use a scotch bright pad to hit the plastic and then use adhesion promoter on it. If you use sand paper use like 220 so you're not gouging the plastic
Dude Fantastic Work!! 👍
Would you recommend doing a "drop coat" if you were spraying an entire vehicle?
Yes!!! That's exactly what I do when lining an entire vehicle, if you don't you'll more than likely get banding.
@@SoWellGarage cool man thanks. I have a 2003 Tacoma and the paint is shot but only the top of the roof and good. It's black and I want to Raptor Line it black or more if a grey metal look. Thanks for the pointer.
@@tommywallbanger of course! I'm actually going to be paint my 99 tacoma 1G3 toyota metallic grey. So I'm biased but I'd say go grey!
Thank you for the video. I have 2 questions, how much product would I need to do the total exterior of my 1995 extended cab Mazda B4000 (It is really just a Ford Ranger) Can I spray liner on a polished aluminum tailgate cap that holds my plastic liner onto my tailgate? Thank you for your time.
Great question! For the truck I'd assume about 6-8 bottles would be perfect (1.5-2 gallons), as for the aluminum you'd want to hit that really hard with sand paper, 120 grit and sand till it's evenly matte. For sure use adhesion promoter!
@@SoWellGarage how much time do I wait between first coat second coat and third coat if I'm Raptor lining my entire vehicle
@@gilcruz7869 so I would wait about 10-15 minutes but if you're doing your entire vehicle, by the time you get to the next panel the other is basically ready for another coat.
how far did 1 bottle of the liner go? was 1 bottle enough to get the job done or did you need more then one?
I wish you had said more about which grit you used to sand.
So generally for truck beds I'll use a Scotch Brite pad attachment on a sander/angle grinder to be able to get into hard to reach areas. After that I'll use 120-220 for the rest of the truck bed. On the steps I used 220 all the way through sense there wasn't any hard to reach places. Since the bed liner is thick you don't need to go any higher than 220. I hope this helps!
Prep work is key to the quality of any job
So the drop coat is applied with 60psi of pressure as well?
Exactly, just at a further distance
@@SoWellGarage Thanks for answering so quick, will paint my car the next 2 days, so that comes in handy!
@@grossmeister1181 of course! I love being able to help. If you have any more questions, please let me know
@@SoWellGarage Not at the moment, but thanks a lot for that offer. Now I only have to hope that I bought enough Raptor for my 2004 Dodge RAM 1500 :D But from what I read on other videos, 8 bottles should be fine.
@@SoWellGarage So I painted my car today but really went out of paint in the end. I got it nearly all covered, but on the lower half there are some areas where the paint doesn't cover the color underneath. Do you think I can cover this up with Raptor from the rattle can? I'm not sure if I will be able to get an air compressor etc. anytime soon. Or should I better get a compressor and cover it up? Thanks a lot for your help!
Just finish white tint raptor lining my Ram, problem is I ran out of liner and need another coat, kit should be here in 4 days..would I need to sand to apply a 2nd coat or just wipe everything down? If so what grit would you recommend?
Great question! I've done the same a few times, just clean it and then hit it with air to knock any debris off!
@@SoWellGarage awesome thank you, one more question, is there anyway to fix heavy spots, I've got one spot on an edge that got way too much liner, do I have to cut it out or can I just sand that spot to knock down and shoot back over it? Thanks again
Looks beautiful
How long can you store the raptor liner after adding the hardener?
Great question, I'm honestly not sure. Even after putting the cap back on the reaction has started and by the end of the day it'll be solid. I'd say you have about a 2 hour window of working time but it also depends on the amount. A thinner or smaller amount will dry faster
Nice can you raptor chrome clad (plastic) handles wheels etc ? Impressive work
Thank you! And yes! You just want to go heavier on the sanding. Chrome is a pain to stick to so make sure to it has a good scratch to it and then use adhesion promoter!
Awesome video
Great work!! How much raptor liner do you recommend to do a job like this? I have the same steps.
Two bottles will be more than enough for a set of steps
hell yea i did my rims white with raptor and that crap sprays like its snowing in a blizzard outside its gets EVERYWHERE
True that! 😂😂😂
Great vid..Do you use adhesion promoter for entire grill?
I would! An area that's gonna get constantly hit with wind, bugs, debris, etc. I would coat it fully with adhesion promoter
So it was just one coat with 50% overlay plus what you call the drop coat, right?
Basically! But you can always do more! I tend to go heavy in areas that I know will see a lot of abuse
after spraying raptor liner and letting it cure... how hard is it to take off the sprayed material?
Depends on the thickness, over spray comes off super easy but a thicker coat, I haven't had to remove yet
@@SoWellGarage interesting.. thanks bro
@@zumezoom9593 not a problem, wish I could've helped more!
@@SoWellGarage you have bro much appreciated
@@SoWellGarage if i wanted to spray my mostly plastic car, and I dont want to take it apart.. i realize there are certain hard to reach places that i cannot sand. could i use the epoxy adhesion promoter instead of sanding?
Aloha braddah, where do you purchase your raptor products on oahu? Amazon doesn't ship them to oahu. Looking for the tintable kit, adhesion promoter and etch primer. Mahalo 🤙🏽
So I've heard that mililani oriellys has tintable but I buy through eBay, they'll ship here and takes around 4-5 days
@@SoWellGarageOK I'll check them out thanks!
after sanding down the parts i want to spray, must i use primer before raptor liner or could i use just the Adhesion promoter from upol?
Im SO sorry I missed your comment! either way is totally fine! what I generally do is if it's bare metal, I use a primer then adhesion promoter, if it's not bare metal, just promoter!
Good info. Hey if Im working with bare steel, would you recommend any primer?
I would say yes, just to help prevent any rust.
Great video! Any tips for people who doesn’t have the spray gun lol
Great question! If you can't get one and want to do roll on, basically do the same thing. Roll it on and let it tack up, get a clean roller then go back over it to texture it nicely and evenly!
@@SoWellGarage thanks much! 😊, so only do this on the last coat right
@@iamalemontree exactly, the texture isn't going to be just like the spray technique but you'll be able to avoid tiger stripes this way!
@@SoWellGarage thanks so much! 😊
@SoWell Garage what did you use for the cleaning part, MEK or Ace Tone?
So I use mineral spirits since it'll clean most grease or oil away. Not to mention it's quite a bit cheaper than acetone 🤣
@@SoWellGarage Beautiful! Thank you!
How many cfm to run the spray gun?
I wish I had a cfm number for you but what I do is set the regulator pressure into the gun at about 60psi. I hope this helps!
Looks good
Thank you so much for the tips...
Im wanting to do a two tone graphic design on my truck. I'm finding it to ne very difficult to find anyone who has done "graphics" using liner. My question is what is the magic moment in where to remove the tape to reveal the graphic.
That's a great question, I think it all depends on how intricate the design is. I haven't personally had to do one but if I'd try letting it tack up and almost dry then peel. Probably about 20-30 minutes dry time
Can I do my whole 2016 4Runner in raptor liner? Anyone know how much this would cost? Any recs?? I’m in arkansas !
I’m talking the whole body of the car!! Thanks
Is Raptor Liner at all flexible? I have NFab steps that flex a bit. Thanks
That's a great question, it does have a little bit of flex to it but not a lot. I've used it on wood and seems to adhere and flex fine with wood bit I'm curious how "flexible" it would be with steel
How the heck do you keep from getting the over spray off your garage floor??
That's a great question! I don't, I'm forced to rent a giant gas pressure washer every month 🤣
@@SoWellGarage why not lay down painters plastic, a cheap big tarp or something to protect the floor.
@@gunnerneikoify I tried but honestly became more work than I felt it was worth it. When it dries it just flakes off the tarp and then makes a bigger mess. I don't mind the pressure washing 🤣
@@SoWellGarage I just buy two rolls of cheapo painters plastic $5.00 for each roll of 10ft x 20ft plastic, lay it out on my garage floor and drive the truck in on top of it. When I'm all finished, back the truck out, fold up and then roll up all the plastic sheeting and throw it in the garbage can. I know exactly what you mean by the bedliner flaking off and getting everywhere but by folding up the plastic and rolling it up, I never ever have that problem. And I own a big Hotsy power washer but the method I use is so simple, quick and clean that I have no reason to break out the Hotsy.
But to each their own, what works best for one person doesn't mean it works best for the other person...
Thanks for sharing this information. I sell auto paint. And any tips help 👍
Great info, thank you!!
What size air compressor do you use
I'm using a 26 gallon craftsman compressor that's rated at 150 PSI max
Hey man I’m doing a regular cab f250 I stripped the whole truck to bare metal I’m going to apply 2k epoxy primer then the custom coat bed liner which is raptor should I sand the primer if I I’m in the time window for the primer or should I just paint over the primer
If I were you I'd sand the primer slightly. Just to knock off anything that's not fully attached. But raptor liner is very forgiving so it doesn't need to be perfectly flat or super smooth. I'd also recommend the adhesion promoter that raptor liner sells
If you purchase your epoxy sealer from SPI or local dealer, you get a 7 day open window to spray your Raptor liner over it. As the sealer cures chemically, the Raptor liner will grab onto it with an unreal bond. The plus side is the SPI chemically seals your bed better than most on the market. SPI Epoxy sealer is extremely popular in the truck and auto restoration aftermarket, because you can spray it, come in the next day and spray feather fill to sand this high build or use with filler to sand a needed. All will re-spray it if they break thru to metal. Require oil and grease remover (Like Everything) sand with 80 grit, wipe again, air and tack, spray the epoxy and follow with your Raptor. Hope this help give you an option. ASE Master Tech since 1978 - Retired
P.S. SPI Universal Clear is on more cars at the “Pebble Beach” car show hands down. Made in the US, call and the owner answer the phone, no advertising!
@@deankay4434 hey man well I got the Kirker primer 2k expoxy it’s like 130 dollars a gallon with activator I’ll definitely follow your instructions. I scuffed the truck to bare metal with a abrasive grinder 3m bad material like the scuff pads but it put nice marks in the middle smooth but has the scratches so I’m ready to go I just heard I gotta get rust dissolver spray the whole truck let it cure so the epoxy primer sticks like a tank to the metal as much as possible
If your are talking a rust converter like Eastwood sells, or something else. Southwest Rod and Customs with Pete Hugh’s, has been in the Dallas/Fort Worth area for 28+ years before moving to Moab, UT. But, he has a video where he takes a door outside and mixes muriatic acid (Diluted Hydrochloric Acid) scrubs it down with lots of PPE, scotch bright then uses vinegar water mix to clean off before shooting epoxy. Vinegar alone is a weak acid while muriatic is much stronger. The stuff the sell is a phousporic acid mix that does the same thing, as depending on what you read is good or not so good. It comes down to your wallet, the area that needs fixed, but no one want rust under a top coat of anything unless you don’t plan on keeping it.
I think the grinding pad you were talking about is like a thick scotch bright with almost epoxy holding its shape. Sold by different companies now, never used one but some get good results in videos. I just don’t want to spent $60 for something I can do for $10. Best of luck with your project!
ASE Master since 1978-Retired
@@deankay4434 thanks man yeah it’s kinda like what Eastwood sells but it’s pricer a bit better results reviews it’s called rustblast by KBS coatings I called Eastwood today and they said that it’s good to use a rust dissolver coating on bare metal before you paint on it especially in Florida where I live the expoxy primer it gonna stick great to it
I would suggest some pvc pipe and painters plastic…build you a cheap spray booth to contain the overspray! Nothing like the “hell hath no fury like” an angry wife seeing the mess after a year of painting parts in the garage. They don’t tell you about the excellent concrete adhesion as well 🤣
Forget the wife's response.....they complain about EVERYTHING all the time. Best to just protect the garage walls and floor.
What size compressor are you using?
I have a 26 gallon Craftsman. I can generally get a little more than half way through spraying a truck bed before it needs to kick on again.
Is there a concern spraying Raptor Liner over Rustoleum Self Etch Primer? The tech I talked to warned me against it, as it wouldn't adhere. I've got several spots already preped with Self Etch, since I went down to bare metal with sanding. Should I use a 2K primer over the self etch first?
I know this is old, but I prepped and painted my entire 95 Jeep Wrangler with Raptor. I used Rustoleum Self Etch on all metal and used adhesion promoter on plastic. It's been 3 years now and it looks like the day I sprayed it. No adhesion problems whatsoever.
Great video, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the support!
Where is the trick?