Mr Swirl: The Internet's Most Disturbed User
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2023
- In 2004, German Police uncovered a hard drive filled with numerous photos depicting graphic images. And inserted within all of them, was a man hiding behind a distorted swirling face. This is the story of Mr. Swirl.
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This video is a documentary made for the purpose of educating the public on a high profile criminal case from the early 2000's.
The fact that a teenager who leaked those gta6 clips is serving 20 years and this monster is walking free is all you need to know about the modern world.
whats the teens name?
@@SierNotsruht Arion kurtaj
@@ReinhardVanAstrea. The thing about that kid is that. He himself said he would do it again once released (before even getting sentenced). So keep in mind that kid is not as innocent as you may believe. Also, it was an indefinite hospital stay, not jail. Just wanna point that out.
@@egg1503 still doesn't excuse the fact that a child predator who has 300 confirmed cases of cp from multiple countries got to walk free for the rest of his life while a teenager has his entire life ruined because he leaked a few snippets of a video game.
Tfw copyright laws are exponentially stronger than child p*rn laws
The fact that it took them YEARS to unswirl his image is insane
Right? That would have been the first thing I tried!
EXACTLY. Not only do we have a terrible story overall, but we have a criminal stupid enough to put themselves in pictures of their crimes, and a law enforcement that was even DUMBER to not think to reverse the effect. Completely speechless here.
To be fair this happened decades ago. The police teams were not very tech or internet savvy as they are now. They did try to unswirl but didn't know how to do it until much later
They had to give the impression that they were trying to solve the case. The higher ups, as evident by the weak sentences, cover for these pedos, because many of them operate in the same circles
@@gabrielwguevarra were y’all not paying attention? He literally said the swirl couldn’t be reversed because it had to come from the website he used but nobody knew what it was. They probably would’ve never unswirled his face if that dude didn’t tell the police about the site.
If you ever feel like a failure, just remember it took international governments and Interpol three years to figure out how to click a button and unswirl a face in a picture.
Right! 😂
and also LET HIM WALK FREE.
Like you and every other clown saying the same thing would've had a f--king clue at the time how to unmask the pics. It's laughable you think you would've done any better.
Y'all are too young to understand how technology was back then.
Bro it was 2007
The fact that he served less time in prison than they spent trying to hunt him down. What a disgusting piece of filth.
The solution is simple but most people won't break their so-called moral codes or the law. He could be taken out easily if a dedicated group banded around that objective. People hide behind their morals and the law so they can look the other way. That's the real problem.
This should be a rule. You serve your time in prison the same time investigators spent tracking you MINIMUM. With so much evidence, why would they let him walk free? I just cant, really
That's why you don't rely on the justice system anymore. We have no justice system. The Justice system of more than forty to fifty years ago is long gone and is never coming back. We are in the Purge right now guys. The government is evil beyond belief, greedy among men, self protective, and is only concerned about its image and doesn't give a crap about civilians. This is why we need to o keep praying for them, because Jesus IS the way, the truth, and the Life. He is the ONLY way to Salvation. We are sinners, but He is not. He is merciful, loving, and gracious to us even though we don't deserve it. As long as we're alive, we are not beyond saving, and that's ONLY because of Jesus.
Predators deserve no chance at life AT ALL.
@@Bootmahoy88if you ask me..Morality would be to give them what they deserve so it sets a clear sign that this is unacceptable
It's be a real shame if a concerned citizen had a word with him.
I hope he runs into someone who is dangerous (not as in a pedo like himself) but someone who despises them and won't hesitate to bury this maggot beneath the ground.
Would be kind of fun to have more than one concerned citizen have a talk with him in a sound proof room. Like a free kick boxing class.
I only live one province away, maybe I'll take a drive. Ya know, go -beat someone's head in- see the ocean.
(Edit) why are there people actually encouraging me to commit murder 💀
@@LeviAckerman096 Yeah you should, for sure.
It’d be a real shame if he had an “accident” falling down the stairs.
The fact that he is allowed to roam free despite the *hundreds* of pictures showing him abusing children shows how broken and useless the justice system is, it's insane.
people serve longer for petty drug charges. its really sad how horrible the whole system is
and the facts his face was obviously there the whole time and no one thought to unswirl it for 3 years
Solution:brutal vigilantism
makes me wish there were more vigilant serial killers in the world.
well apparently he lives in the city i'm moving to next year, if he is still there and I ever run into him it's on sight
The fact that he was allowed to walk free despite literally HUNDEREDS of photographic evidence of him committing pedophilia and child abuse is absolutely ridiculous and abhorrent.
And the fact that they don’t arrest him on possession and distribution when he uploaded those images in Canada shows that the person/people who made that decision and the reason behind it can probably be found among the list of people who visited Epstein’s island
The solution is simple but most people won't break their so-called moral codes or the law. He could be taken out easily if a dedicated group banded around that objective. People hide behind their morals and the law so they can look the other way. That's the real problem.
@@Bootmahoy88 The problem IS the law. It should be amended because it's absolutely ridiculous that such little jail time is given for a crime of this nature. However, that is a possible solution it just shouldn't even have to be the case because then they risk getting in trouble and would end up serving more prison time than he ever did if caught although they would be considered heroes.
They protect their own if you get what I'm saying
@@bonerbreath6747Kinda leaning towards this too. From Asia, this guy has my hate. Should he ever come to Asia, that'll be his last flight
Imagine being the person who unswirled his face and being creeped the fuck out. Alone , pushing the button, waiting for it to reveal his face. Give me chills.
gave me a shiver down my spine ibsr
THEY LET HIM GO. THEY. LET. HIM. GO. This man raped multiple children and they let him go and then when they did put him in prison he was there for such a short time. This fills me with so much rage and genuine disgust, he has effected so many lives and yet they found it acceptable to let him go free and expect him not to do it again even though he committed the same crimes after he got out of jail the first time. This isn’t even disappointing anymore it is deplorable to think these children won’t get justice and he will now be able to effect so many more children’s lives.
This is why the death penalty should be supported everywhere because I would love to hear that this man was cooked alive on an electric chair.
The laws tame on one of their own
Good ol' white privilege
This is a constant reminder that the justice system and laws are broken and corrupted.
@@Mubashar_Asghar 100 percent. Upon conviction, I think we all agree what the punishment should be, yet we can't get laws passed that will do what is necessary. After all this time, there can be only one, and one only, reason for these light sentences. The politicians are all Mr. Swirls.
The fact that there’s petty weed dealers sitting in prison for decades-life yet a serial child predator is set free really puts into perspective what governments actually care about….
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In which way does locking up a weed dealer for years help the government financially?
@@plasticflower extortion thru bonds and if not they get free labor in prison
@@lykequelsuf1163 Ok but, wouldn't a sex offender also mean free labor in prison then? (Edit: btw it's not exactly "free" seeing how the facility has to be maintained and staffed. No idea if the cost of upkeep outweighs the benefits of the labor though...)
Governments don't want people making alot of easy untaxed money. Pot creates social problems and less progress or advancement. But creates jobs for police officers and prison system and a need for those institutions of control. A population of 1 million people needs x amount of police, judges lawyers etc to control that population so they need laws to justify having those numbers. Someone not paying tax and making alot of money is direct competition to government.
Couldve said it better but hopefully you get my point
@@plasticflower Because you can VERY quickly and easily, and cheaply go through weed dealing/using cases because it's so common and the 'war on drugs' attitude still exists today (even though it's one of if not the safest drugs, perhaps safer than alcohol). I don't know if you've ever been on a jury or been involved in anything legal, but even simple things are expensive and take a long time. Also, the upkeep definitely outweighs the benefits of the labour because you don't necessarily have to pay prisoners because of loopholes ("It's not slave labour, it's educational"), even then, you barely need to pay them as it is. Not only that, but often powerful political figures have a quota they want to fill to prove their point to their sponsors and voters, if you can arrest X amount of criminals more than X last year, you are "reducing crime", and then your whole political party gets seen as the one that's stopping crime, and hopefully one day you get even more sponsors; it just so happens it's significantly easier to imprison some guy selling a little bit of weed in his garden to his friends than it is to host full-on investigations into highly organised crime.
The sex offender could be free labour, obviously, and I'm not agreeing that everything is a conspiracy and that every judge will just let sex offenders go free because it's easy, but you have to recognise (and judges have even written books about it themselves) that there is a lot of corruption, laziness, and negligence, and greed.
this whole case is literally:
"you pinky promise to not abuse kids again?"
"no"
"alright you're free"
freaking unreal
"Why didn't they just unswirl his face"
It's not that simple. The swirl function, just like blur, can have thousands of variations in proprietary and open software and libraries. Those thousands of variations are algorithms that have hundreds of parameters each for mathematically transforming the image. In some of those transforms, the transform itself is mutated so that you cannot "input 1, swirl to 9, and reverse back to 1" because after the initial transforms, there is no longer a starting point - similar to how in some cases you can decompile a .dll but destroy the data in the process, so you are left with decompiled code that still doesn't give you a way to recreate the compiled version. So in addition to the fact that it is nontrivially computationally difficult to determine how the swirl was formed, even if the method is discovered, it might still be impossible to "unbake the cake". But yeah.
but didn't they just 'unswirl' it later on? with just a click of a button? or was the process more complicated than shown here?
@@abhigyanbiswas This is a nontechnical YT video, so I'm not drawing any conclusions by what is meant from the lay phrase "click a button". Think of it like DNA Forensics. 30 years ago, the techniques for analyzing DNA, where possible, took complex lab procedures and a lot of time. Today, those same procedures are literally at the clicks of a few buttons, but underneath the click is a huge quantities of processing and problem solving. Or a rocket launch -- one rocker switch opens the gate to thousands of proceses. So even if the software used after the fact was commercial/off the shelf, it's possible that "just clicking a button" could unswirl it when prior attempts couldn't, simply because the tooling got much better on average. -- And don't forget, dumb luck also plays a role, like happening to try the right keys to a random lock on the first try...
@@Dave-lr2wothanks for the explanation!
@@abhigyanbiswashe was playing up the simplicity for contents sake, i would do my own research if you want to know how it actually happened
I'll take your word for it not being tech savvy. But on face value it does sound so obvious!!
The fact it took so long for someone to just... swirl but in the opposite direction never ceases to blow me away
It's literally the internet
What did you expect?
Because it’s too simply of a solution. We’re talking early 2000’s. Only computer geeks at that time would have known what software he used. If this were to happen today, Gen Z would have had that image reversed in 10 minutes.
@@BlasianBobbi215 that prob tru but now a days unswirling in photoshop was the first thing I thought of lmao
@@schnizy9312 people that engage in this behavior make it their business to know computers. I watched J Aubrey’s video about Josh Duggar. I had no idea you can split a hard drive into two by adding a partition. I didn’t know that was a thing until watching that.
@@BlasianBobbi215 Partitioning is something anyone who's ever even installed an OS knows about though
The fact that he got released and is out there somewhere fillls me with so much anger
I don't understand how this guy survived being in jail 2 times in almost a row. Pedophiles usually get killed in no time.
@@holycow4889 he probably lies to them
@@holycow4889 maybe he is rich?
@@a5mmar232 this was a intentional story, I feel like someone in prison would’ve heard it before he even got a chance to tell a lie.
corruption in those poor countrys really is bad... since the rich can exploit it
I couldn't help but immediately theorize that his sentence was so low because he had some dirt on other people like him who were in a position of power.
Immediately what I thought. And that must be the reason why we never see these Internet predators get what they deserve. If they're clever enough to be online doing this crap, you just know they got dirt on all the people they already knew would come for them at one point.
@@angiemd8920if anything, it makes you not clever to be doing stuff they way he has, I don't know if you are implying he is part of a powerful organization but I highly doubt this man has dirt on anyone.
if he did have something on someone, it would likely have been that he sold content to them, or received it. these types tend to loosely clump together and share amongst themselves. i wouldn’t be surprised if that were the case here.
@@angiemd8920I don’t think clever enough, but brazen and narcissistic fit better
He currently lives in Vancouver, British Columbia, Cananda. He's walking freely and its truly disgusting.
Can we sign a petition to track him down?
Hopefully someone knows where he is.
This is horrible
Holy fuck that’s my hometown???! U got source?
@@Akizinefr now I’m freaking scared- he could be my neighbor 😭
Him being let off must've been such a slap in the face to the investigators who worked so hard to bring him to justice.
less of a slap to the face and more of a kick to the balls
Fuck the investigators man, what about the kids :((((
@@thesovietkevin7275 torture to the balls
@@snegluf cbt
Sure is. Also don't forget that they had to watch that depraved film footage frame by frame while looking for clues. That can't be easy.
One of the scariest things about getting older is increasingly becoming aware of the overwhelming amount of sick humans in this world.
i think it's important to remind yourself that these disgusting humans make up only a small fraction of the people in the world. it's easy to get consumed by all the awful people and to forget that there's probably even more people who do good things
The scary thing is the LGBT people want you to believe this is normal and acceptable. Let them rape kids or you’re intolerant.
@@sapphire4310 real
The amount of people i "knew" growing up that are doing twenty plus years in jail for shocking crimes crosses my mind everyday
@@sapphire4310 and yet most of those "good people" do nothing.
My heart skipped a beat when you said he lives in Vancouver. As someone born and raised here it’s troubling
That is why to teach your kids that strangers can be children too, if you don't know them don't go with them
unswirling his face to reveal his sick, creepy eyes staring dead into the camera is one of the creepiest things i've ever seen
Agreed.. i'm surprised they showed that visual on TV lol.. scary as fuck
not surprised he was a teacher
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Fuck im actually scared to watch this now lol
Letting a criminal walk for real crimes is such a canadian thing to do.
But god help you if you "misgender" some delusional man in a dress. The full weight of the government will be set upon you.
As a Canadian citizen I was thinking the same thing.
We literally have PROTEST ORGANIZERS serving and looking at harder sentences and they weren't even charged with anything.
Its not Canadian its like that everywhere; he didnt commit these crime in Canada.
@@BRUTALB0RIS Then what about that asian dude who cannibalized another dude on a bus in Canada? It happened in Canada and he walks free to this day. Not sentenced, with a new identity.
Ugh...unfortunately! 😒🤮
Can we all just agree, that in EVERY true crime case involving Canada they completely drop the ball? Honestly thank goodness I don't live there.
Naive comment. Canada certainly has areas of leniency in its laws that need to be changed - especially regarding sex-related crimes - but if you look at most Euro countries or the UK it’s the exact same.
So going by that logic and your approach to it, I’d assume you’re from the USA. In which case I’d recommend you check out the drastic amount of crimes committed in America (by percentage) as compared to Canada.
On average, you are much more safe in Canada than most places in the world. It’s not even a question.
Canada’s population is very different from that of the United States, which results in the disparate crime rates. For example, US cites have much higher rates of gang violence, and they also share a border with Mexico (cartel country) among other things.
Canada’s government is still ass
@@CaffeineDoughnuts Yeah but crime in europe is not as degenerate as this man's case. Just imagine this guy is still alive! If he was in America he would never see the sun anymore.
@@wojakthecrusader1410 you’d think that… but honestly, I would not be remotely surprised if it had the same result.
I'm in Canada, in British Columbia in fact and yeah the system here is too lenient.
This makes my blood BOIL. It's ridiculous that this monster is walking free. My heart breaks for all his victims.
it's a shame that he wasn't in one of those "inmate kills pedophile" headlines. absolutely disgusting how he's living a normal life while all of his victims are still suffering from what he did
Yup, that's canada for you-nothing but love for pedophiles in our justice system! I'd know from first-hand family experience.
If people know this guy, reveal his name and address. Some people want to teach him a message
@Eamon Lyons i really hope but i doubt it... the system that is supposed to punish him instead protects him
Exactly.. so surprised to made it out alive (unfortunate).
It was obvious that he will continue doing this shit forever.
POS was probably in protective custody in jail and not among the populace. Which I think is the biggest load of shit - throw them to the wolves if they're going to get such short sentences.
Just goes to show how incompetent the authorities really are. Took them 3 years to figure out that a swirl is a photo editing software effect and can be reversed.
I was thinking this too! I have pretty rudimentary photoshop skills and my first course of action would be to try reversing the swirl, or find someone who can.
yeah wtf, I thought it was pre scrambled in some other way before the swirl effect which made it irreversible, there really needs to be technologically literate people in important government roles.
it was my first thought abt this but thought it was scrambled in another way bcos they didnt even mention it until later so sad
Well it's not like they spent every day for 3 years thinking about it. Probably looked at the picture, didn't know hot it was done, and filed it away so they could focus on easier to solve things in the meantime.
There have been multiple instances of governments leaking classified informations because they didn't know how to properly use Word
He's prolly watching this video
They banned him from using any kind of electronic device
@@user-hr5xn7dr4k last time we hear of him, he's essentially free
@@user-hr5xn7dr4k That seemed effective.
@@user-hr5xn7dr4kthere we go then he can’t possibly be online
@@user-hr5xn7dr4khe will still use computers anyway
Canada: hey, you promise to never ever sexually assault children again ☹️?? Ok cool 😊 we trust you
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"Accidents happen man it's all good 😊😊"
No wonder african like white country. They're too naive 😂
It's so sickening that he's walking free while those poor children have to deal with that trauma for the rest of their lives. Child predators deserve no sympathy
Lol the government need to step up their game.
@@-error-7936 the "government" (politicians, judges etc) are usually the worst offenders.
They have to give light sentences to protect themselves.
Epstein didn't kill himself
Shame Canada doesn't have the 2nd amendment, would make some frontier justice easier to pull off
@@-error-7936 wtf is funny about kids getting molested ?
@@twinzzlers don't need a gun to kill him.
It blows my mind that it took 3 years to figure out you could just UNTWIRL the photograph. That was literally the first thing on my mind. Maybe a different time yes but probably contacting photo editing experts would resolve the case even earlier
Seriously! How would at least one of a group of investigators not immediately ask "Well, what commercially available software might produce this effect? Let's look into that." They went THREE YEARS without asking such a basic question!
STRAIGHT UP!!! Even back in ‘04 “Photoshop” was a monicker used for anyone editing their photos. So, it really should’ve been one of the first things they did… suspiciously took them 3 years to find all of this out. Maybe the gov has skeletons of their own (tons).
Canadian officers are stupid
@@jimihendrix23456 Don't forget that the reason they finally thought to do that wasn't even because someone asked that stupidly basic question, it was because one person coincidentally recognised the effect and where it came from 🤦🏻 Imagine if that one person didn't happen to be on that investigation team, they probably wouldn't of found the creep for at least another year or so ffs
whats UNTWIRL? and what does it do?
This guy must have blackmail evidence against powerful elites. That explains the leniency of his sentences.
Idk why but now I'm invested in your videos and I keep watching them. Your videos are great btw
I don’t know why, but Mr. Swirl’s face un-swirling fills me with a sense of dread I can’t explain. It feels like something I would see in a horror movie.
Indeed. He's a demon walking this earth... And there are MANY more just like him.
I think that's what's so horrific...It could be anybody!
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it’s so creepy
It definitely feels unnatural. The red eye and still partially blurred face. It's almost in the uncanny valley
Same
That's because of the music.
As a canadian. Our judicial system is so flawed and so corrupt its honestly heartbreaking.
6 r jailed for speaking against trudeau…. For 3 years but a predator that f boys ( you’re free to roam Vancouver!)
That sentencing is the most bullshit sentence ever
as an american it isn’t much better over here
@@imacrow2893 beat me to it
You talk to anyone from any country and they'll say the same thing. The major fuckups stand out more than the thousands of cases that are forgotten.
it's horrible and disgusting that he is left to roam free and only had to spend a couple years in jail, while those kids are left with lifelong trauma. it's unfair and it's sickening
The fact that he’s still out there possibly obtaining more of these awful images is undoubtedly horrifying.
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@@brandona1140 😐
@@whannabi average mr. Swirl fan (you):
yeah
the fact that he was traced to a city near mine
Why are laws so lenient towards child predators? That is one of the worst crimes you can commit and the consequences are just a slap on the wrist! It takes ALL of us to lobby for change that makes a great impact and I think we can all agree that this cause is the most important and worthwhile!
sadly this is sometimes because lots of the government are also in on these things
@@lowqualitymagic maybe its time we, the lowly civilians, did something about it...
Because the involvement of people in power is insane . Even in my city they let officials get away with it because if you keep going up the food chain you end up with our president
@@noaironi well people keep saying that but nobody ever does anything. what should we do, and when?
@@noaironi Time to hunger games this shit
how is the guy who leaked gta 6 serving a worse sentence than this guy
No idea. I swear justice is so backwards these days
They let him go?! THEY LET HIM GO?!? THAT’S RIDICULOUS!
You know, I’ve had a family member who once was in jail for a minor crime. He said that “people were in there for murder, assault, kidnapping, etc. They weren’t the ones hated the most; those who have done something to an innocent child were the most hated ones in there.”
Oh yeah, even murderers hate child abusers. It’s a general rule in prison, that children aren’t to be touched in any way. Many of them are fathers too.
it’s nice to hear when a predator gets what he deserves while serving his sentence
My dads been in prison a couple times when I was younger and later in my life I asked about this and he told me some stories about what happens to anyone who hurts a child. And believe me it ain’t a good time for any of them.
Even the most vile criminals have limits, and the universal limits are women and children. If you to jail for a crime involving one of those two, you're dead meat.
Its for a couple reasons, the big 3 are 1. Many are fathers. 2. Many were abused children themselves. 3. Children are innocent.
It's disturbing how there are so many cases of those who harm kids getting really light sentences but small time drug dealers can get decades in prison...
I reckon it's because half the judges are pedophiles themselves.
@@KIKOSANWe have many legal channels for exploiting addictions at that.
@@KIKOSANlmaoooo its no different than pharmacists knowingly prescribing opiates to addicts, dont let the govt make you think a kid selling his friend a blunt is on the same level as a prolific sexual predator
I cried all night about Peter Scully case. I cried and can't sleep with the case p3dos pretended be gay couple adopt a little boy just to sa him in Australia. I can't, humans just won't stop destroying things, it's getting ugly, my hatred towards life just grew each day I open newsfeed. I wish I never been born at all, please.
As a woman sometimes I contemplating to having kids someday, but I'd probably kms if I see my kid being one of the victim, the pain it's truly hurts I can't imagine. I pray for the victims so you can be at peace and reach whatever you want in life, I know life won't be like that sometimes it's just never gets better but I genuinely hope you at least find happiness, even if it's small.
@@lights6865 I truly feel your pain. My default emotion when it comes to children being abused or anyone really, especially kids, the elderly and those with disabilities, is sheer rage. Many of us want to fix the problem but the justice system doesn't work in the victims' favor, and it never has. It will continue on like this until men give up their power and privilege and stop making self-serving laws that protect themselves. Throughout the world, laws have been made by men, enforced by men, judged and punished by men. For centuries, women have had no say. So where does that leave the vulnerable? Utterly exposed to those who will do them harm. Never let these AHs out would be a start. No wonder there are vigilante groups dealing out punishment when people like this Thing gets away with one of the worse crime imaginable. Use them for medical research I say. I was abducted when I was 6yrs old by a pedophile, so I want to do a whole lot of damage to them. Yet I can only fantasize and send them all really bad vibes. Take care of yourself. The world needs more people like you.
14:05 Own brothers laptop? That makes it even worse
This channel has come far and we'll deserved ❤
Yet there is people still locked up in prison for selling and distributing marijuana, it is truly sad that a monster like this is allowed to walk away free with hardly any consequences.
Agree
And meanwhile somewhere in part of the world. There is still persecution of gay people, and child marriage is allowed.
Made me remember that a dude got 15 years life in prison on USA... For robbing a store with a little gun. No victims. Well, the court protects their own I guess.
Exactly. I used to be terrified my dad would get caught buying it for our pain till doc raised our fentanyl patch from 50mcg to 100mcg. To think he'd possibly have been punished more than a monster is just insane to me. Justice is nonexistent.
@@Dog.This_Identifier_Is_Shit. and then a billionaire will evade millions in tax but will only ever get a slap on the wrist
As we all know, vigilante justice is a slippery slope and normal civilians should not be encouraged to take the law into their own hands. _HOWEVER…_
NO....Even for this kind of incident. Vigilante justice is bad! Because I know you will always take it too far.
@The desensitized Sympathizer he traumatized an insane amount of children for the rest of their lives on video, and you're worried about HIS rights.What about the kids right to not be ra#ped? Wow. Thats why he's free right now, probably messing up more kids, but hey, we didn't hurt HIM, so that's what matters, right? Gross. Not stopping an obvious predator from forcing himself into people's lives and physically assaulting them is not the moral high ground you believe it is.
@The desensitized Sympathizer "vigilante justice is bad and goes to far"
Yeah, sure, because assaulting kids then taking pics and videos forcing the children onto p@rn sites for his sick buddies wasn't too far at all. Honestly. Wtf canada.
@@selliepaddie2066 That's NOT what I said. I just said that you shouldn't violently attack him no matter what. Let the afterlife deal with him.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 You're deplorable if you think a serial child abuser deserves any human rights after violating those of countless others for the rest of their lives. Even if there is a hell for him to go to, the children that he showed no remorse for are already going through it right now. He deserves worse than going "too far," and the fact that he didn't get the good ol' prisoner's justice where it's conveniently out of range of the guards angers me.
YOU'RE THE CREATOR OF LIMINAL LAND???? That's bloody amazing!! You guys are so talented
My country (Canada) is a fucking embarrassment when it comes to punishing criminals, even worse so in 2024.
The fact that he got away with this for nearly a decade, committing hundreds of sex crimes (only the known ones) and went to prison twice, and the Canadian government were just like “Nah, he aint that bad, let him go.” It literally makes me sick to my stomach to think about.
ALSO: Y'all keep saying "why didnt they unswirl the image" mate, it was the early 2000's police really werent that tech savvy at the time.
Canadians are too lenient
That's Canada for you. As a Canadian I can say our justice system is a joke.
if the canadian population had a spine they would find and kill this dude. he is in Vancouver
@@kristyp2585 a big joke indeed.
Canada is more likely to prosecute you for misgendering someone than abusing children!
There's no way this man's living a "normal" life.
I am a 100% sure he's still active on the deep web.
People like him never change.
They literally caught him doing it again after letting him off the first time. All they're doing is teaching him to be more careful in his predation. Disgusting
@@skeladon2372 yeah if this guy was caught where I live, he wouldn't be alive💀.
Cant believe they just left him 14 months. People are getting more charges than that for weed possession. 100%, the kids in the photo werent canaidian so his lawyers made use of that. But still, prosecuters should leave their job since they are this bad@@skeladon2372
Someone high up on the justice hierarchy must consume his content, its disgusting how they let this man be free. How can they sleep at night knowing what this man did and probably still does to children. I wanna cry@@skeladon2372
Where does this guy live? I just wanna talk.
People in a situation of bankruptcy steal from the market to survive and receive punishments, while this monster is living his own life.
Canadian law is even more disturbed than that man.
I am so, so glad you actually showed his face. So many creators will still censor the faces of disgusting people like this, as if they don't deserve to be publicly shamed for their devilish acts
The thing isn’t that they think he shouldn’t be shamed, (he absolutely does) it’s that he doesn’t deserve the notoriety of being “Mr. Swirl.” We saw in the video that he took pride in the name, so if we broadcast his face and express how disgusted we are with him, he wins. He gets to be that big bad boogeyman that has the control over others’ lives he could only dream of.
I think the worst way to punish someone like this is to let the world forget about him, while still remembering his victims. Let him rot by himself, with the whole world having turned its back on him. No one knows him, and he doesn’t have any power anymore.
Edit: Okay, so I blundered with my explanation here. I think in the case of people like this guy, who are free in the population at large, we need to show their faces and names, so it's harder for them to trick more victims. I was trying to explain the reason why people censor the names and faces of these criminals, using Mr. Swirl as my example. In doing so, I accidentally made the insinuation that he deserves the same treatment. I assure you, this was purely unintentional.
Apologies for the confusion.
@@saddesklunch2544 Just execute him, problem solved.
@@saddesklunch2544 You are comparing this to likes of school shooters who want to sEnD tHe MeSsAgE with their garbage, fascist manifestos
His an ACTIVE child abuser, everyone should know his face so they can defend their kids and hopefully ruin his life wherever he lives, because apparently justice system isn’t enough
@@saddesklunch2544ah yes, let the world forget about him so he can keep abusing children in private. the hell is wrong with you?
@@saddesklunch2544 fr was I disgusted seeing his face, it kinda hit me by surprise.
If it really did take them three years to figure out how to effectively undo a photoshop edit, it speaks less of the criminal's arrogance and more of the police's sheer unbridled incompetence.
It's not the cops, a lot of times it's the admins. Cops will ask for training on new tech, but a lot of admins won't approve it in the budget.
It was A) on the early 2000's where they didn't have the knowledge on programms and software we have now and B) a specific site, so just unswirling it on anything other than that site did nothing to progress the investigation
@@wawacat6568 It was Photoshop, iirc... Not obscure. One would wonder what other programs would be tried BEFORE that one.
The irony of your incompetent comment lmao.
@@wawacat6568 don't make excuses for inc[...]mpete[...]t id[..]ots, photoshop has existed since the late 80's, the site on which the photos were uploaded have nothing to do with how the effect was applied or anything, it was pure inc[...]mpete[...]ce by the c[...]nt-adians, as usual.
I don’t understand how sentencing can be so light for child predators. I mean, seriously, they commit one of the most (if not THE most) depraved crimes known to man, and you expect you can just tell them “ok, well don’t break the law again” and that will work? How is that possible? They have that many photos of his crimes and still, practically nothing done about it? I don’t understand how abusing even one singular child shouldn’t get you a lifetime in prison.
Him getting a short sentence twice is insulting. What an absolute travesty of justice.
The gut-punch of hearing this man was a TEACHER, absolutely just made me stop and pause with horror. Children look to these adults for guidance and comfort, I can’t even imagine those poor kids lives after…..💔
I worked in a school performing maintenance for 2 years. Teachers today are the biggest woke, self aggrandizing douchebags of almost any profession. Not monsters like this bastard, but sheep with average intelligence for the most part. I even heard a story of a janitor inappropriately touching a student below the waist that was never reported to the police. No respect for most teachers.
Yeah end of the day don’t have kids world is cruel u never know who’s watching ur kid 👀
Or, be involved w your kids. Give them the low down on bad evil people and how those demons will lure them. Knowledge is power. We just never left ours alone. We were poot - chose to homeschool, were very involved w them. Went on tons of field trios, scouts, piano lessons, dance, but we were scout leaders, dance parents, etc. People dropped their kids all the time without even bothering to keep contact info current, picking up late, etc. Not our kids!!
@@FM19MONTH may I ask how your childrens social skills were/are? I think homeschooling is very beneficial in terms of safety and even just learning better, but I know with some parents, they don’t really bother with improving their kids socialization which could be a big hindrance when they become adults
@@FM19MONTH I know some folks will disagree with you and call us helicopter parents, but I strongly agree. My son has stayed overnight with TWO people in two and a half years- my mom for a night while I ended up coming back and staying, and my best friend for an emergency. I was raised differently and was SA’d as a child. It’s so easy but I will say, a lot of times it’s someone the child trusts. My son is autistic and doesn’t speak, so until he does and can comprehend ‘good and bad touch’, he will be with me 24/7. I understand a lot of parents don’t have that option and I hate it for them. I know my mind would race constantly.
I'm 100% convinced he got off easy because the judges are his "online friends."
The west doesn't care about actually putting away criminals... that is, unless you're committing tax fraud or something. You'll get life for that.
The judges or someone else with some power/influence for sure
I swear, they’re everywhere.
Most are, there’s more rings out there in the government/“high places” then a jewelry store in Paris
conspiracy bait
I'm not one for calling for violence, but this man has very clearly escaped justice for something very heinous.
Unfortunately here in Canada our sex offender registry is private rendering it completely useless.
i didn’t know that yikes 🤢
@@extrafirmtofu__ I know, I'm not sure why our government's priority is protecting pedos. A few years ago there was a petition to make it public but for whatever reason it was ignored.
What’s even the point 😐
my local newspaper once got around that by posting a screenshot of a sex offender's facebook page instead of directly naming or giving away his face, thought it was clever.
I cannot believe it took them that long to think to reverse the swirl that way. As a graphic designer, that solution was my immediate thought.
My immediate thought was "why don't they just unswirl it" but then I thought maybe that was too easy 😂 jk, it was literally all they needed to do
common sense isn't common, unfortunately
Police are a bunch of idyot bro
back then computer graphics were still “magic” in the minds of a lot of people.
@@Peeplii yeah honestly, I had given them the benefit of the doubt and assumed it wasn't that simple for whatever reason. Like maybe they DID try it and some pixel data DID get lost in that process. But when I heard they hadn't even attempted the simple solution first, it blindsided me. Lmao
The scene where you showed the initial unswirling was genuinely unsettling and disturbing. Bravo
who asked
@@scoper7897 rilly bro
Who asked who asked
@@bonzibuddy7076 yeah bro rilly. noone asked cus
@@scoper7897 no one has to ask, it's a public comment section you dingus
i remember andy jiang summarize this story before, didn't expect a full indepth video on the story, nice.
This is going to sounds strange but this is my first time watching you and I’m actually tempted to buy some of that merch it looks dope
Absolutely nuts. I remember this case vividly as a kid because my dad, a photographer, said out loud during the news segment "Just unswirl it on Photoshop!?" before they showed the investigators doing just that. Took him half a second to figure out what took Interpol 3 years. Really glad you covered it, just a damn shame he got off scott free and did not in any way learn his lesson.
They had to find the exact way he did it. You couldn’t just do it in photoshop easily. They had to get a very specific plug-in, and photoshop was brand new. It didn’t work like that when they first had the images. Investigators are dumb, but you’re probably more dumb for thinking it was that simple at the start
It was the first thing I thought and when he said they decided to unswirl this after 3 goddamn years I was like wtf?
@@ontopofbottom But they could at least think about trying to find the program he could use. I'm sure it would be much quicker than 3 years
So why didn't he unswirl it and solve the case? The image was out there at that point. Sounds like he willingly let a predator get away with it.
@@vincere_ How? You'd shot photo of the TV screen in 2004 and photoshop it with that bad quality?
These kinds of monsters deserve ZERO compassion, or redemption.
They deserve only the worst of fates for ruining the lives of children forever. The countries/people sympathizing with these monsters and giving light sentences are just as guilty.
They will never stop making victims, even if it’s just by keeping the market for child abuse images alive.
honestly, csa is one of the few crimes that i support death being the punishment, people like that dont change, and dont deserve even the luxury of prison, let the goddamn devil deal with them
Pedophiles aren't people, so of course they don't deserve any sort of compassion.
Really entertaining video. story. Thanks for sharing it at this high quality for free.
Honestly, this video quality is excellent and great storytelling, but maaaan why I gotta be honest the way you're ending each sentence absolutely hurts my soul. You sound like those top 5 videos.
Why did you have to draw attention to that 😭 now I can't unhear
As someone who is a victim of CP myself it’s actually disgusting that a lot of the criminals who do CP don’t get lots of time in jail and honestly that should be fixed. people like that are mentally destroying kids and their childhoods it’s horrible
I’m so sorry… and I couldn’t agree more
@@Mal2008 tysm it happened years ago but I’m still not over it I’m currently trying to talk to a therapist but since then I’ve always had problems talking to adults (especially female ones since it was my mom who did CP)
@@amysfuckingdeadI hope everything is ok now. Child abusers should be fucked up by torture in every country.
@@amysfuckingdeadthat’s unimaginable. I am seriously baffled that they gave him a 5 year sentence at first, he repeated his crimes in a way that could actually allow him to be put away for longer, and they decide it’s a good idea to only give him 5 years. I was more shocked about that than I was when I heard that it took 3 years to unscramble his face.
@@scooter5248 yeah it’s horrible it honestly sucks
things like this make me realize why we are so obsessed with the idea of vigilantes. i think a lot of us, deep down, wish that there was someone brave enough, operating outside the law, who would just take people like this out when they’re just allowed to walk right out of prison.
Exactly
yeah it pisses me off nobody has cleaned this scum off the streets.
I feel that way too, the problem is there are so many mentally ill, confused and heavily biased people that there would be so many people that DON'T deserve vigilante justice hurt or killed
@@crono3339 yeah while vigilantism is good for cases like these i think it becomes a slippery slope
Of course the problem is that when someone wishes for there to be a vigilante like you said, they invariably imagine this vigilante warrior to have the exact same opinions as they do about who deserves punishment and who doesn't.
Not to mention, there are a lot of people out there who use accusations of paedophilia as a political weapon, but don't actually give af about childrens welfare. I mean, look at these MAGA people constantly shouting about groomers, and yet they worship a guy who spent 20 years hanging out with Epstein. Ask those fkers to go on a vigilante justice mission and they'll probably kill everyone _except_ the pedos.
Vigilante justice sounds fun, but really you're just giving the most sadistic and disturbed people in society permission to go on a killing spree.
He was literally in photos committing atrocities and he walked? Fml
That's the justice system for you.
I remember this Case. It was on new at the time. Awesome video
I don't understand how he's not in jail. In other countries you get 10+ years for growing marijuana for personal use. That's ridiculous.
I don’t get it he should get life in prison
He should be put in jail and his fellow inmates should be informed of what crimes he did commit. Theres always somebody in jail who has nothing to lose and takes out the trash by himself
He's White.
@@nevjordan1079 ?
@@nevjordan1079I think it’s more so because he’s canadian
He was set free , because he had clients holding top positions, judiciary , politicians , businessman. This is the only explaination I guess
I love how this video follows his crimes and how he was caught and not his life. Child abusers don’t deserve sympathy in any way or get any excuses.
Edit: My wording is terrible. Okay. Let me try to explain what I meant. Of course spreading awareness is important. Sympathy was the wrong word to use. What I was referring to is people turning people that are clearly struggling with mental health (which causes them to act as they do) and twist it into some mysterious villain in some TV drama. Like in those true crime podcasts where there are jokes being made at the victim’s expense and the perpetrator’s actions are romanticized together with their mental illnesses and problems. These people need help. Not being made to be some fictional agent of evil and chaos. And with “following his life” I was referring to how a lot of the time true crime show the nuance of the perpetrators but completely jumps over the victims. It’s like they flesh out the perpetrator’s character and then go “oh and then he murdered some guy” and move on.
I hope you can now understand better, what I was trying to say. I must admit my choice of words was quite tasteless and rushed. To be fair I didn’t think my comment would gain so much traction.
I totally agree, they should be put into general population in prison too. See how long they last, would be fun to put a bet on.
@@Orgun1213i think something more vule would be a better punishment
Any abusers don’t deserve anything. Someone who gets entertained from the sadistic pleasure of tormenting their own kind for no exact reason, nevertheless underage adolescence.
@@Skibble.The U.S. needs to remove the cruel and unusual punishment agreement for pedos.
They don’t deserve sympathy but i’d still be interested in learning abt their lives
So cool of you to plug your channel collab in a documentary about a man who tormented children.
Every video i watch about an abuser who harms children always has the same ending, they get an EXTREMELY LIGHT punishment, and i mean over 80% of the videos i watch on it. And im glad to see every other person in the comments rightfully adressing it too, my question is, why are the punishments so low for this crime when it is one of the most evil? i think something is going on in the justice system/higher up system. How can these low sentences on such a heinous crime be so consistent through out all of this? Something is going on
I meannn why does everyone with power just happen to be found with the same content too? Seems too connected if u ask me.
Seeing him smile knowing what those poor kids have been through or will go through makes me so sick... how can someone like that ever be free again?
How can someone like that live?
@@BudPluk right?
cuz the gov has the same "interests" as these sickos
thats clear traits of psychopathy
@@sepho942 Psychopathy isn't linked to pedophilia. Just like it isn't necessary linked to murderous behavior.
When I hear stories of predators that sexually assault children getting tortured and murdered in prison by other inmates, I don’t feel an ounce of regret or remorse. They deserve every single second of it.
That's the only real justice they ever get
I hate that they protect these fuckers in prison for whatever reason. There was this dude who molested his friends kids and 40 kids just for him to go in a jail cell that looked something like an apartment away from the “dangerous” criminals.
@@SisterSanMiguelthe reason he was watched is so he wouldn't do it in prison dumbass, but I do agree it is weird for him to just be put in prison and not solitary confinement
@@SisterSanMiguelfr I hate when mofos try to defend predators, murders, ect it's fucking annoying.
I'm too soft not to feel bad fir them. it's just a shitty situation in general.
Truly a showcase of how the justice system can be great to go after a criminal but flawed in punishe them.
3:57 To describe the discovery of a HDD filled with extremely brutal, sadistic CP as the sort of thing that police "encounter on a daily basis" is a huge stretch.
"Hell is empty and all the devils are here"
- William Shakespeare
For real. Earth is the devils playground
The one who let him live free are next to demons
It shows a lot about our leadership when they’re too scared to put these disgusting people away forever. It’s almost like they’re trying protect them or themselves from future convictions.
That is exactly what they are doing.
Men who do stuff like this are always treated lightly until they murder someone. Look at Richard Ramirez. He molested and raped children for years snd only got light sentences. This repeated until he eventually went on a murder spree. Only then was he sentenced to life in prison
@@brookewiththehair4884 yep. Rodney Alcala raped and almost killed an 8 year old girl and he was released after 34 months. It's vile
The amount of religious leaders, republic politicians, and other various right-winged assholes who have been convicted of these horrid acts immediately proves this idea.
@@brookewiththehair4884 Sickening thing I've seen lately is people assuming "she couldn't have done this, she's a women/mom" type deal. It's disgusting, people act like nothing like this can be done by a parent, and they assume it had to be a father if it did happen.
5 YEARS? 5 YEARS????? ARE YOU SHITTING???????????? AND HE WALKS FREE???????????????? WHAT THE HELLL!!!!!!!
As soon as I heard he'd be tried in Canada I thought: "yep, good luck with that." I live here and time and time again, predators like this are let off with a slap on the wrist. Meanwhile drug dealers are given massive sentences. It's so terrible, and leads me to think that there's a lot of predators hiding in our judicial system..
when the west as a whole is run by pedos why do you think they get off so lightly
have him tried in any country untouched by the influence of the west and he would not be alive right now
the judge is a pedo
lol nobody prosecutes drug dealers here either unless they were flagrantly stupid
Plus you Canadiens are soft AF so you know there won't be any vigilante justice, probably just run into him and ask him heyyy what was that all aboot friend smh
Surprised he wasn't a transgender
The fact that it took them that long to figure out how to undo a swirl effect that I practically use every day in my career is astounding.
Im going to try this method out, im going to make sure not to twirl my face.
@@aura4533woah wtf
@@aura4533 Would that just do the same thing but in the opposite direction as swirling?
@@aura4533 Stop with your idiotic edgelord comments. You aren't funny.
"swirl effect I practically use every day in my career" 🤨📸
Thanks for speaking out on this your a legend
The fact that there's so many "The Fact's" here lol
The fact it took them 3 years before someone decided to put the picture into an imaging software and reverse the effect is really just shocking to me. I literally said that out loud to myself while watching but then decided "no, of course they tried that. It probably just didn't work." which proves that I have far too much hope for humanity.
By the time you get to my age (47) you learn just how many clues investigators miss. I rememeber this case when it happened. I could list a whole bunch for you.
The good news is your hope for humanity will turn into cynicism over the years 👍
It was 2004 and it would've been middle aged people. The fact it didn't click is not surprising.
Yep, I too thought "They probably tried but the image just got worse" and then I was like "no shit"
The fact that this was in 2004 makes it somewhat more acceptable I guess, but I'd assume interpol would have some Audiovisual/photography/image whatever specialist who would know how to use Photoshop
That was the first thing I thought of when they mentioned how he did a swirl.
@@DD-kc6hg theyre not any middle aged people. theyre yk. the police
17:50 this is why we need to stop giving disgusting murderers and pedos nicknames. It’s like giving them a supervillain name. They don’t deserve it. Sometimes the nicknames instigate them into further disgusting actions.
EXACTLY
You can blame journalism for this, cool names = more clicks, and then the nicknames stick.
i’m gonna call him mr poopy pants
we should name them really dumbass stupid names maybe they will genuinely do less crimes if they be called "the small dick killer"
I wish I could be as bold as mr Swirl cause right now I can only stand naked behind the kindergarten fence during leisure hours
You already know he's still doing this shit, there's no question. He claims he would change his ways but yet went right back to it as soon as they let him walk
my god this is such a frustrating case 😭 just when i thought he's going to be in jail for life... nop his sentence period is not even older than his victims
I can't believe that Canada didn't charge him. Unreal. This guy should be posted online everywhere for ever
It's Canada we're talking about. Not only do I believe it, but I was expecting it. Canadians really need to do something about their current government. For fuck's sake not only do they have these laws that allow people to self-erase their lives, but they'll even do it for you in a clinic with a lethal injection if you do a bit of paperwork. I wish I was kidding. Oh Canada, Oh Canada.
C*nadian Moment.
As a canadian, i can say that most people that i know are sick and tired of the crap that the government does.
@@MintyLime703 Canada seriously fucked up in this situation without a doubt, and has a horrendous track record for leniency that I strongly despise. But this is a complete misrepresentation of the MAiD program and I'm sick of it being portrayed as the Canadian government executing people left and right for 'filling out a bit of paperwork'. There's at minimum 7 conditions you have to meet just to be considered, including being of sound mind, not being under duress, having a terminal or permanent illness (which excludes mental illness completely at the moment) and having some kind of suffering that can't be alleviated by reasonable means. The assessment process is long and requires multiple doctors to testify that you meet these conditions, there's a ton of safeguards in place to avoid ineligible/insufficient proof, you have to re-confirm your consent and prove you still meet the conditions at the last step, and if you show resistance in any way even after final consent, approval is revoked. If you did a five minute google search you'd see all of the procedures that have to be taken to even be considered listed with the associated laws on the Government of Canada website. You'd also learn that the Netherlands has been doing medically assisted death since 2002 and have an even lower age limit than Canada, and y'all aren't out here pretending they murder 12-year-olds for having migraines or depression.
If you don't agree with the idea of medically assisted dying, that's fine. But you don't get to misrepresent it to make yourself feel better about your opinion. Stop contributing to false information.
Canada is the most redditified country on Earth.
The fact that he was only discovered bc of these pics is SCARY cuz can u imagine just how many people are doing what he did but aren't documenting it in any way??
I don't even want to think about it
theres thousands@@wrldondrugz666
I don’t want to be a human anymore .
I wish I had the courage to do the same or at least knew sites to view such content are there anyone willing to help me 😢
@andrei_chikatil0 idc if this is some stupid joke, I genuinely hope you begin rotting internally
Someone needs to find this guy and complete justice that the government can’t
Aight then, where did I put my .357 Smith and Wesson Magnum?
Wait that wasn’t my corn dog?
I'm a Canadian and find our judicial system absolutely putrid
Need to catch him on the streets 🔫
haha , come to a third world country then and see the plight , Canada would be a heaven then
I'm American and moved to Canada a decade ago. It's fucked up. We can go to jail for killing someone who breaks into our houses or beating up someone attacking us.
@@Nocturnous come to Finland my guy. We haven't had single burglary related death in decades😂
@@terskataneli6457 I dunno, Finland may soon be at war with Russia.
my heart goes out to all the victims, it must feel horrible knowing this disgusting human being is out there abusing others.
5:30 for every dumbass saying "wHy dIdnT thEy jUsT uNswIrl itttttTTTTtT????!!!!?!?!?!"
The pixels in the image was scrambled by the swIrl and were not lost. Its not a traditional censor. If they would have just swIrled the image in the opposite direction (as shown in the video at 10:30) then they would have had his face sooner. Of course they still had to identify who he is after the face was revealed which would have taken more effort. My best guess is Interpol tried this at first but screwed it up and then years later someone else came along and tried again using different software and it worked. It may have been difficult to figure out which software Mr Swirl used to make the Swirl in the first place.
Clearly he was well-connected somehow....normal people don't have the money to just travel the world for years on end. Whoever was financing his travels likely made sure his prison sentence was light.
Exactly!
Tbh places like Cambodia are very poor and your Western currency goes a long way. It's also possible he was profiting from uploading his photos online.
Just ask Jeffrey Epstein.
An unfortunate number of Canadian politicians are absolutely fine with pedophiles. Trudeau absolutely loves them.
@@VoiceOfTheEmperor He didn't kill himself. They faked a death and got him out.
I can't get over using his brother's computer to try and frame him. His poor brother. I feel for his family
Text book psychopath, felt literally no compassion for his own brother and was willing to throw them under the bus to continue his sick twisted fetish.