I ordered this one yesterday. I hadn't seen this video before I bought it, so it was a nice surprise to see you approve of it! :) I think I managed to get a newer model!
I’ve always owned modified/repurposed school backpacks for the outdoors. For my 20th birthday my uncle got me one of these, and I’m pretty overwhelmed. It’s more capable and feature-rich than anything I’ve owned, and I love it. Thanks for this review and the other video you did explaining its features. Really helped me get a grip on what the features of this pack are.
thanks for the review! just bought one before watching this, and it's my first pack ever. I didn't notice the side entry for the water bottles so I am happy about that. Honestly I went with the fit without looking over the bells and whistles, so I am appreciative of this video.
I used it through a mild snow storm, didnt have an issue with my back getting wet. Have to agree this pack is awesome. Two things i wished for as upgrades is larger hip pockets as well and some straps on the bottom like the 65 version has for your sleeping pad!
I totally agree with every point Luke makes on this pack. I bought mine in the summer last year and put it through some pretty rough hikes and it performed awesome. It does crunch a bit but it's bearable. One thing to note is that the pack dimensions of the 50 and 65 are almost identical and some of that additional space is 2 side pockets on either side of the web pouch (where Luke would have liked internal access zippers). They are quite large and I can easily fit all of my cooking gear in one side with room to spare and my tarp and rain gear in the other. Also, mine came with a rain cover. Keep up the good work Luke.
Superb video as always: I always scan RUclips before I buy any gear and your videos are very helpful. Sanx 4 the good work, best regards Martin from Sweden
I bought this pack mainly for the trampoline back and the graphite color, if you have ever used an external frame in the summer and compare it to an internal in the heat you will understand that a severely sweaty back is annoying and externals allow for more ventilation . This pack is as close to an external that you can get without actually using one.
I have the new 2022 Atmos and it looks like they updated everything you didn't like, still makes the crunching sound. Came with rain cover, it came in at 4.7lbs.
i'm not sure why you gave the waistbelt pockets a negative review. I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge and I was able to fit it into a waistbelt pocket along with a few Cliff bars just fine.
Thanks Luke for your review got mine the other day took on a day hike really love it. Thought the pockets were pretty good for me. No crunches for me. Thanks again. Keep it awesome
I'm now the happy owner of a Deuter Futura Vario 50+10 and an Osprey Atmos AG 50. Few things the deuter has extra: - outside zippers to reach the contents. - the variflex system that allows the hip belt to move with the hips. I think this takes out those sounds. The new Atmos AG 50 (with a white logo instead of the black circle) seems to have larger hip belt pockets, much larger than the futura and your model. The exterior large stretch pocket is very handy. The Futura has one, but it's zipped. Both are extremely comfortable and adjustable.
Glad to see your review on this. I bought the 65l after watching your first preview and absolutely love it! By far my favorite pack. the hip pockets have a bit of room in them as they go deeper around the sides of the belt, the problem i had was getting stuff past the zipper opening. I was also pleasantly surprised to see the charcoal grey color was actually a green rather than grey :) Another great review! Thank you Luke.
This review was made in 2015. The Osprey Atmos packs have since been updated with new colors and an improved design. If you want that color you will have to search around for a used one.
Great review; I actually picked up the 65 AG a month ago. I have yet to take it out on a hike/camping trip, but I did a test run and absolutely love it.
5 year old video, I know... I like the side pockets in the belt. I usually keep my lighter, fire striker and my light woolen gloves or my small headlamp (in the winter, it often holds my balaclava mask) in them. My phone usually is in the backpack, since I don't have to take it out every few minutes while I'm on a hike.
I'm always highly sceptical of any rucksack that lacks decent side pockets. One of the most important features a rucksack should have. Also they are far too heavy.
Good vid. Thanks. Osprey is a great company. I have had the osprey Kestrel 48 for about 3-4 years and the Talon 22 for about 1 year. Lost of miles on the Kestrel. Not so much on the Talon yet. Love both of them. They both have the Airscape suspension system. Keeps me dry. That's says a lot when most of my time is spent south Louisiana. Thanks again.
I wonder if the waist belt pockets were attached with some sort of shock cord or stretching strap (similar to chest straps that stretch) to the hip belt rather than being a physical part of the hip belt would make the pockets more usable / less likely to stretch and become super tight / lower capacity...
Would you be able to review the EXOS 48? Really interested in that pack but im not sure if it lacks the support I need for my back. My back tends to go out of wack after longer hikes.
Actually Osprey seem to be aware of the hip pocket issue. I ordered two packs (different colours) and one pack had the short zippers which make the pockets difficult to access but the other pack had longer, curved zippers. That works much better. But I still miss the security pocket under the lid and the large pockets on the front of the predecessor... A daisy chain or some straps would have been nice too. By the way; we do get a rain cover with the pack in Europe!
Luke I just found your you tube channel,and have watched a few videos or what ever,and would just like to tag along,your very real,and easy to watch and learn from,thanks
Idk if you have a ridiculously sized cell phone or something but I can easily keep my iPhone, it’s battery pack and a charging cable in one, and keep three or four bars in the other, maybe even more than that. I have the 65L so maybe that’s the difference?
I have every AG pack osprey make. 20L to 108L. Got this, got a 65. AG hauls. Wear 20L Manta AG mountain biking all day, full off water, 5L, food, layers, bike spares, pers kit, don't even know its on my back. Gone over the bars heaps. Roll over my pack. Good as. Manta AG 20, sometimes my 36L depending. Got aether 88 aswell. You get a rain cover with some packs, not all. Yeah, annoying but not a big issue. Longest/heaviest trek to date 40kg/35km in a day. Plenty of ups/downs(aether AG 88+20) first 20km gtg. Last 10 or so started to weigh down. Was by far the comfiest that night(winter, near 0)though. 3 person vango with verandah, 2 camp chairs, all the bells & whistles,heaps water/food, cooking kit etc. Feet were rooted but back still strong. Solid packs. 50L is for urban ops, day hikes. Anything longer, get a 65L or look at the Aether AG packs. Mrs runs my 65, I run Aether 88+20.
The 65 AG version has two extra zippers on the back to get to gear more easily,. slightly larger pack, but it help keep organised better. The belt pockets are someone big on the 65, but they could be bigger, agree.? . Great review thank you
I was looking at buying that pack a few months back, looks like i'll have to grab that one now. I just bought though a Fjallraven Friluft 55 and so far i love it. I haven't done any Real testing but if you ever get the change to try one out i recommend it, least at the moment.
Is there any significant difference between the trampoline suspension system (yes, I learned that phrase from this video) of the Atmos and for example the Exos? Except the back mesh of the Exos being several pieces sewn together, I don't see any obvious differences, but it's not called Anti Gravity on the Exos. Am I missing something?
Julio Marquez Elisondo I assume for carrying essentials and going to hotels? Then yes, it'll be perfect. Great for camping for a few days as long as you don't go longer than like 4 or 5 days
there is one big con. you cant attach a therma rest z lite on the outside. the straps are simply too short! except for that its quite nice. and mine came with a raincover btw
In your opinion, is this pack too big for day hiking? I just bought the new 2018 version and I'm starting to 2nd guess my decision. I just absolutely love this bag lol
Just watched your video. Yes, it's five years old. However, I can say, I got my Atmos 50 AG from REI. Guess what, they still offer a rain cover at no extra charge. In fact I got mine in the garage section. And only paid $125.00 Only used once on a short overnight trip. Customer returned it. Said he wanted a bigger pack. I post a video of my new Atmos 50 AG on my alternative channel. Want to see it. Look up Ukpik Tonraq. Enjoyed your video sir. Just an FYI, I took the cheap tiny pockets off of the belt. Got with Zpacks and ordered pockets. Those are huge pockets. They actually can hold a nice sized pistol and clip.
i can't decide between Kajka 65 and the Atmos 65… i go to south america for almost 6 month, and will travel around also do some Hikings (4-5 Days) Which one would you recommend?
I know this is an old post but I am between this and the exos 48 do you have any thought on which way to go. I know zpacks are the new hype but not in my price rang thank you in advance
You can improve this review by showing positives and negatives carrying hiking poles, snowshoes, long or larger water bottles, microspikes, sleep pad, winter butt pad. Show how easy or difficult to adjust for different heights. I am upgrading from my REI Traverse 48 to this pack for lumbar support. Fewer pockets than my old pack but hoping this new pack will be kinder to my lower back.
Great review! I thought this was an almost-epic pack as well, but most of my travels are in the winter and I had to return this when I couldn't get my Lamina -15 bag to fit in it. So close. I'm pretty convinced at this point that the best winter weekend packs (50L-ish) are mountaineering gear packs.
Love this pack, but thing I don't like is that it is not openning from the front... That's why I bought the Ariel 65. I wish the Ariel/Aether series where made with the AG technology.
We bought 2. Went on a 1 week mountain trip, sleeping outside, fully loaded pack. Hated it. Feel great light loaded, but when you really need it to work, nope, really bad.
I bought my wife the 65L womens version (medium size) of this pack for her first pack. She is out of shape (round is a shape though) and has never hiked or camped. She carried 30lbs on our three day wilderness hike and absolutely loved it. It was worth every penny for her to be happy and for me to not hear one complaint about it. Thanks for the honest reviews Luke.
Guys what are some trails in Florida for a weekend hike? If anyone of you could recommend something that'll be great. thanks. Plus I'm getting one these pretty soon, thanks for the review.
Is this too big for a day hike? Say a 6-8 hour hike? I want to get a pack that can be used for over nights (1-2 nights) and day hiking. I am fixing to join a hiking club and didn't want to show up for a day hike with a huge backpack looking like a noob. Any help and suggestions would be appreciated.
I also have this great pack! One thing i miss a little bit...straps like those on the Atmos 65 to hold the sleepingpad in front of the sleepingbagdepartment. I take some extra straps...so i kan fi take my ZLite on this position :-)
Thanks for the review Luke! You had some pretty valid development ideas. What's your take on packability considering you're going out on a multiple day hike and have to pack everything from your personal gear to the base camp items and food? Does the AG suspension system eat some space from inside of the pack?
Great review man! I backpack abroad for 4 months out of the year, every year and have been a long time Kelty fan. I am seriously considering this pack for my next adventure through South America. I have read many negative reviews about this packs durability. What would you say about the durability?
I just received mine and it has the creaking as mentioned. Does it ever go away? I ask because I spend a lot of time watching wildlife. It feels great but I am fearful of the noise.
Navid Shahrzad It depend totally on your equipment. It's impossible to say how much space is needed unless we know exactly what all your equipment consist of and what you plan to eat. A single item like the difference between a down or synthetic sleeping bag make a huge difference in the volume of the equipment. I have used an Exos 34 with an entire week of food and still room to spare, while I have friends with still light burdens that has trouble to fit a weekend worth of stuff in a 50L pack. If you are in doubt, choose the 65L, the weight different is negliable and it is easier to pack if you don't need to fill outer pockets, lid and all available space to its limit. For a majority the 50L will be enough for 3-4 days of supply as long as the equipment is fairly light, in about the 20 pound range or less without food and water and the stuff you carry is fairly normal in bulk. Hope this help! 😀
Great review! I have been looking at these for a while. Is there any down side for me going with the 65L if I don't think I will need the space for a couple years?
If you plan to hike anywhere a bear canister is required, you will have enough room to shove it into the pack. That's what made me opt for the larger size.
+arcana1973 I'm just wondering if there is any down side to have 50 liters of gear in a 65 liter pack. I have a 45L now but it is too small for my cooler weather gear. I want a nice quality pack that I can use for all seasons.
+Jason Lykins I don't think there's a downside with this particular pack. First off you can use the compression straps to tighten the load when there's less gear. Also, this pack has a removable lid and a cover for the top of the pack. That way you can make the main compartment fold I on itself and make it more compact. Then when you need the extra space you will have it.
Great review, but I would like it to have the sleeping pad straps like the 65L has. I love my 38L Kestrel, perfect for day hiking and overnight. I haven't gone mulit day with it but I'm sure if your experienced with ultra light packing it suite I.
I am sure this would have been a really good review but I just had to give up at the fourth mention of the Anti Gravity trampoline suspension and that is all I heard during the first 2 mins 43 secs. Sorry.
Would you recommend an osprey product over something like Teton? Weight is not really a factor and I'd spend the extra money if there is a crazy difference. I'm looking for a 65L backpack if anyone has any suggestions. Thanks
love your reviews and thanks for the trouser review you are wearing I asked for. is it possible for a review on the 65L bag as there seems to be some differences between them. maybe it's a UK version thing but for example the 65 comes with a rain cover as a starter. hope you can as the 65 is my next investment I think as my berg rucksack has fallen apart after little use and here in UK the atmos ag 65L goes for the £170- £190 mark so want to make sure before investing. thanks again n keep up the great work
Excellent review. Seemed authentic and unbiased. I'm considering this pack but have researched and have a close second choice in the Jansport Katahdin 50..for about almost half the price. No hip pockets on the JK but sounds like the Osprey's aren't much use. Have you looked at this pack and do you have any thoughts on this
And people don't forget.. it has a wonderful suspension system!!
say trampoline suspension system again
wait what was the suspension system? I missed it..
what does AG stand for? I missed it
@@JafetNet Anti Gravity :)
@@doctordissident SMH lol
I ordered this one yesterday. I hadn't seen this video before I bought it, so it was a nice surprise to see you approve of it! :)
I think I managed to get a newer model!
I’ve always owned modified/repurposed school backpacks for the outdoors. For my 20th birthday my uncle got me one of these, and I’m pretty overwhelmed. It’s more capable and feature-rich than anything I’ve owned, and I love it. Thanks for this review and the other video you did explaining its features. Really helped me get a grip on what the features of this pack are.
thanks for the review! just bought one before watching this, and it's my first pack ever. I didn't notice the side entry for the water bottles so I am happy about that. Honestly I went with the fit without looking over the bells and whistles, so I am appreciative of this video.
I used it through a mild snow storm, didnt have an issue with my back getting wet. Have to agree this pack is awesome. Two things i wished for as upgrades is larger hip pockets as well and some straps on the bottom like the 65 version has for your sleeping pad!
I totally agree with every point Luke makes on this pack. I bought mine in the summer last year and put it through some pretty rough hikes and it performed awesome. It does crunch a bit but it's bearable. One thing to note is that the pack dimensions of the 50 and 65 are almost identical and some of that additional space is 2 side pockets on either side of the web pouch (where Luke would have liked internal access zippers). They are quite large and I can easily fit all of my cooking gear in one side with room to spare and my tarp and rain gear in the other. Also, mine came with a rain cover. Keep up the good work Luke.
I got the 65 version and absolutely love it.
does it have a raincover?
Yes it has one. I have got the 50 today, but in the shop they only had the 65 and it has the rain cover as well.
Have you got any feelings about the usefulness of the 65 compared to the 50? Especially for backpacking trips of a week or less?
@@NikonF5user For me the 65 is perfect because I usually carry all the food for me and my wife so I need the space.
Trampoline suspension
System
Anti gravity trampoline suspension.
Superb video as always:
I always scan RUclips before I buy any gear and your videos are very helpful. Sanx 4 the good work, best regards Martin from Sweden
I bought this pack mainly for the trampoline back and the graphite color, if you have ever used an external frame in the summer and compare it to an internal in the heat you will understand that a severely sweaty back is annoying and externals allow for more ventilation . This pack is as close to an external that you can get without actually using one.
I always appreciate your reviews.
I have the new 2022 Atmos and it looks like they updated everything you didn't like, still makes the crunching sound. Came with rain cover, it came in at 4.7lbs.
Thank boss. One suggestion with winter or snow storm I would suggest a poncho to stop snow getting in the back of the pack.
i'm not sure why you gave the waistbelt pockets a negative review. I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge and I was able to fit it into a waistbelt pocket along with a few Cliff bars just fine.
Eddard Trump I agree. What does he expect to fit in. A couple of jackets?? It is what it is.
I got a phone S7 edge, TP, and headlamp in one pocket. I've got the 65
Thanks Luke for your review got mine the other day took on a day hike really love it. Thought the pockets were pretty good for me. No crunches for me. Thanks again. Keep it awesome
I have one of those osprey Atmos AG 50 Anna green absolutely love it thanks to your review strength and honor my friend
Great review! May I know if this bag is still the best of all the bags you have tried/own? Thanks!
Where did you get that one? I love the color!!
Hey Luke, do you still rate the Osprey 50 AG? Have you reviewed a newer design? Can't find it in your playlist mate... Lee Burton Outdoors (UK)
I'm now the happy owner of a Deuter Futura Vario 50+10 and an Osprey Atmos AG 50. Few things the deuter has extra:
- outside zippers to reach the contents.
- the variflex system that allows the hip belt to move with the hips. I think this takes out those sounds.
The new Atmos AG 50 (with a white logo instead of the black circle) seems to have larger hip belt pockets, much larger than the futura and your model. The exterior large stretch pocket is very handy. The Futura has one, but it's zipped.
Both are extremely comfortable and adjustable.
I rough estimation, about 7-8cm longer zippers on the hip belt pockets.
Like 10 minutes of suspension talk. I wanted to just see the pockets, zippers, etc.
Suspension talk is what I need, on the other hand.
That crunching sounds like an old rocking chair!
That would drive me crazy!
My Gregory Savant and Camelback packs are silent!
Glad to see your review on this. I bought the 65l after watching your first preview and absolutely love it! By far my favorite pack. the hip pockets have a bit of room in them as they go deeper around the sides of the belt, the problem i had was getting stuff past the zipper opening. I was also pleasantly surprised to see the charcoal grey color was actually a green rather than grey :) Another great review! Thank you Luke.
How did you get a dark green one?
This review was made in 2015. The Osprey Atmos packs have since been updated with new colors and an improved design. If you want that color you will have to search around for a used one.
Great review; I actually picked up the 65 AG a month ago. I have yet to take it out on a hike/camping trip, but I did a test run and absolutely love it.
5 year old video, I know...
I like the side pockets in the belt. I usually keep my lighter, fire striker and my light woolen gloves or my small headlamp (in the winter, it often holds my balaclava mask) in them. My phone usually is in the backpack, since I don't have to take it out every few minutes while I'm on a hike.
awesome review just can't make my mind up if I want the 50L vs the 65L
I find that 50l is great for 3 season camping. The 65 I need for shooting/hunting/winter
If you would like an Anti-Gravity system with front access, best to just get the Osprey Aether AG
I'm always highly sceptical of any rucksack that lacks decent side pockets. One of the most important features a rucksack should have. Also they are far too heavy.
Good vid. Thanks. Osprey is a great company. I have had the osprey Kestrel 48 for about 3-4 years and the Talon 22 for about 1 year. Lost of miles on the Kestrel. Not so much on the Talon yet. Love both of them. They both have the Airscape suspension system. Keeps me dry. That's says a lot when most of my time is spent south Louisiana. Thanks again.
Have you wore the pack while jumping on a trampoline with gloves on?
Yes
I wonder if the waist belt pockets were attached with some sort of shock cord or stretching strap (similar to chest straps that stretch) to the hip belt rather than being a physical part of the hip belt would make the pockets more usable / less likely to stretch and become super tight / lower capacity...
In Norway this backsack has a raincover included. I bought mine in May 2019 so i have not yet tested it while Back country skiing in the mountains.
Would you be able to review the EXOS 48? Really interested in that pack but im not sure if it lacks the support I need for my back. My back tends to go out of wack after longer hikes.
Just got this pack today. Can't wait to break it in. Great review!
To each his own but for the life of me I can't see how this pack is better than the Arc'teryx Altra 65 that you own. Maybe it's the price?
Actually Osprey seem to be aware of the hip pocket issue. I ordered two packs (different colours) and one pack had the short zippers which make the pockets difficult to access but the other pack had longer, curved zippers. That works much better. But I still miss the security pocket under the lid and the large pockets on the front of the predecessor... A daisy chain or some straps would have been nice too. By the way; we do get a rain cover with the pack in Europe!
Luke I just found your you tube channel,and have watched a few videos or what ever,and would just like to tag along,your very real,and easy to watch and learn from,thanks
So, it is now 2019. You did this review in 2015. How do you feel about it now? Is it still your go to pack?
Nothing beats it
Did u mention the trampoline system???
Idk if you have a ridiculously sized cell phone or something but I can easily keep my iPhone, it’s battery pack and a charging cable in one, and keep three or four bars in the other, maybe even more than that. I have the 65L so maybe that’s the difference?
Luke , are you using medium or big size atmos ag 50 pack?
I have every AG pack osprey make. 20L to 108L. Got this, got a 65. AG hauls. Wear 20L Manta AG mountain biking all day, full off water, 5L, food, layers, bike spares, pers kit, don't even know its on my back.
Gone over the bars heaps. Roll over my pack. Good as. Manta AG 20, sometimes my 36L depending. Got aether 88 aswell.
You get a rain cover with some packs, not all. Yeah, annoying but not a big issue.
Longest/heaviest trek to date 40kg/35km in a day. Plenty of ups/downs(aether AG 88+20) first 20km gtg. Last 10 or so started to weigh down. Was by far the comfiest that night(winter, near 0)though. 3 person vango with verandah, 2 camp chairs, all the bells & whistles,heaps water/food, cooking kit etc. Feet were rooted but back still strong. Solid packs.
50L is for urban ops, day hikes. Anything longer, get a 65L or look at the Aether AG packs. Mrs runs my 65, I run Aether 88+20.
The 65 AG version has two extra zippers on the back to get to gear more easily,. slightly larger pack, but it help keep organised better. The belt pockets are someone big on the 65, but they could be bigger, agree.? . Great review thank you
I was looking at buying that pack a few months back, looks like i'll have to grab that one now. I just bought though a Fjallraven Friluft 55 and so far i love it. I haven't done any Real testing but if you ever get the change to try one out i recommend it, least at the moment.
Osprey is putting this suspension system in the 34L manta/mira packs next year also.
Can you use this for bushcraft as well?
How do you rate osprey backpacks now after all these years ?
Crunching and squeaking may be good it will let the bears know your coming. 😂
Is there any significant difference between the trampoline suspension system (yes, I learned that phrase from this video) of the Atmos and for example the Exos?
Except the back mesh of the Exos being several pieces sewn together, I don't see any obvious differences, but it's not called Anti Gravity on the Exos.
Am I missing something?
I have an Exos 48 and an Atmos 65. The suspension is different. The Atmos AG is way more comfortable and i still like my Exos.
do you recommend this back for an europe trip? Around 15 days.
need more info than that!
Julio Marquez Elisondo I assume for carrying essentials and going to hotels? Then yes, it'll be perfect. Great for camping for a few days as long as you don't go longer than like 4 or 5 days
This is a popular pack for thru hikes so you can most certainly take it on very long treks. Depends on how much you want to pack
there is one big con. you cant attach a therma rest z lite on the outside. the straps are simply too short! except for that its quite nice. and mine came with a raincover btw
In your opinion, is this pack too big for day hiking? I just bought the new 2018 version and I'm starting to 2nd guess my decision. I just absolutely love this bag lol
Does the pack hold the bear vault 500?
What do you think about the osprey aether 70 liter large
can you take this backpak into hand luggage in most european budget airlines?
Can you send me the link for the hike you took using this pack please?
Just watched your video.
Yes, it's five years old.
However, I can say, I got my Atmos 50 AG from REI. Guess what, they still offer a rain cover at no extra charge.
In fact I got mine in the garage section. And only paid $125.00
Only used once on a short overnight trip. Customer returned it. Said he wanted a bigger pack.
I post a video of my new Atmos 50 AG on my alternative channel.
Want to see it.
Look up Ukpik Tonraq.
Enjoyed your video sir.
Just an FYI, I took the cheap tiny pockets off of the belt. Got with Zpacks and ordered pockets. Those are huge pockets.
They actually can hold a nice sized pistol and clip.
Damn you, now I want one.
Can this backpack fit a small tent and sleeping bag?
i can't decide between Kajka 65 and the Atmos 65…
i go to south america for almost 6 month, and will travel around also do some Hikings (4-5 Days)
Which one would you recommend?
I think that's the pack to have. I don't remember you being so stoked on a pack. Good job, old buddy.
I know this is an old post but I am between this and the exos 48 do you have any thought on which way to go. I know zpacks are the new hype but not in my price rang thank you in advance
the pouch mess in front, does it get over stretch?
what size osprey rain cover for this pack? thanks
You can improve this review by showing positives and negatives carrying hiking poles, snowshoes, long or larger water bottles, microspikes, sleep pad, winter butt pad. Show how easy or difficult to adjust for different heights. I am upgrading from my REI Traverse 48 to this pack for lumbar support. Fewer pockets than my old pack but hoping this new pack will be kinder to my lower back.
In terms of durability is it good backapack? I need backpack which survives while using it as registered luggage
What pants and shoes are you wearing? Thanks.
+lostmoon77 He's wearing the Fjallraven Vidda Pro Trousers
www.fjallraven.us/collections/pants/products/vidda-pro-regular-trekking-trousers
Aubrey Johnson thanks, Aubrey
Great review! I thought this was an almost-epic pack as well, but most of my travels are in the winter and I had to return this when I couldn't get my Lamina -15 bag to fit in it. So close. I'm pretty convinced at this point that the best winter weekend packs (50L-ish) are mountaineering gear packs.
Good honest review, thanks!
The squeegee sound is coming from the medal frame. It's rubbing off the material that is surrounding it. Nice review!!
Whats the name of the other backpack again? Alterx 65?
Arc'Teryx Altra 65 which is no longer available.
www.arcteryx.com/ca/en/c/mens/packs/sub-cat=multi-day
Love this pack, but thing I don't like is that it is not openning from the front... That's why I bought the Ariel 65. I wish the Ariel/Aether series where made with the AG technology.
I wonder if Osprey will carry the 'AG" over to some of their other packs.
I will look into this.
- Luke
Can this fit inside the plane with passengers? if not-not good bag
Are you using the Large or Med size? thanks.
I think he's a Small because he's about 5'5" tall. I'm the same height and my size is Small for backpacks.
We bought 2. Went on a 1 week mountain trip, sleeping outside, fully loaded pack. Hated it. Feel great light loaded, but when you really need it to work, nope, really bad.
That doesn't even make sense
I just bought the pack from France...it comes with a raincover included....
I bought my wife the 65L womens version (medium size) of this pack for her first pack. She is out of shape (round is a shape though) and has never hiked or camped. She carried 30lbs on our three day wilderness hike and absolutely loved it. It was worth every penny for her to be happy and for me to not hear one complaint about it. Thanks for the honest reviews Luke.
Guys what are some trails in Florida for a weekend hike? If anyone of you could recommend something that'll be great. thanks. Plus I'm getting one these pretty soon, thanks for the review.
Is this too big for a day hike? Say a 6-8 hour hike? I want to get a pack that can be used for over nights (1-2 nights) and day hiking. I am fixing to join a hiking club and didn't want to show up for a day hike with a huge backpack looking like a noob. Any help and suggestions would be appreciated.
i dont think its big -- you can always remove the top part (which will make it 40l backpack)
Great review!! i just purchased the cinnamon colorway from rei because of this review, it was very very informative ..big thanks
I also have this great pack! One thing i miss a little bit...straps like those on the Atmos 65 to hold the sleepingpad in front of the sleepingbagdepartment. I take some extra straps...so i kan fi take my ZLite on this position :-)
Thanks for the review Luke! You had some pretty valid development ideas. What's your take on packability considering you're going out on a multiple day hike and have to pack everything from your personal gear to the base camp items and food? Does the AG suspension system eat some space from inside of the pack?
Great review man! I backpack abroad for 4 months out of the year, every year and have been a long time Kelty fan. I am seriously considering this pack for my next adventure through South America.
I have read many negative reviews about this packs durability. What would you say about the durability?
I just received mine and it has the creaking as mentioned. Does it ever go away? I ask because I spend a lot of time watching wildlife.
It feels great but I am fearful of the noise.
Trying to decide between a 50 and 65 and was wandering how many night you can go with a 50L pack. Can you go 3-4 nights?
Navid Shahrzad It depend totally on your equipment.
It's impossible to say how much space is needed unless we know exactly what all your equipment consist of and what you plan to eat. A single item like the difference between a down or synthetic sleeping bag make a huge difference in the volume of the equipment.
I have used an Exos 34 with an entire week of food and still room to spare, while I have friends with still light burdens that has trouble to fit a weekend worth of stuff in a 50L pack.
If you are in doubt, choose the 65L, the weight different is negliable and it is easier to pack if you don't need to fill outer pockets, lid and all available space to its limit.
For a majority the 50L will be enough for 3-4 days of supply as long as the equipment is fairly light, in about the 20 pound range or less without food and water and the stuff you carry is fairly normal in bulk.
Hope this help! 😀
Great review! I have been looking at these for a while. Is there any down side for me going with the 65L if I don't think I will need the space for a couple years?
I have the same question.
If you plan to hike anywhere a bear canister is required, you will have enough room to shove it into the pack. That's what made me opt for the larger size.
+arcana1973 I'm just wondering if there is any down side to have 50 liters of gear in a 65 liter pack. I have a 45L now but it is too small for my cooler weather gear. I want a nice quality pack that I can use for all seasons.
+Jason Lykins I don't think there's a downside with this particular pack. First off you can use the compression straps to tighten the load when there's less gear. Also, this pack has a removable lid and a cover for the top of the pack. That way you can make the main compartment fold I on itself and make it more compact. Then when you need the extra space you will have it.
How tall are you I'm 5.3" so will it fit me or I go for a smaller backpack.?
Why did you not choose the Osprey Aether 70 AG? It's better than the atmos
Great review, but I would like it to have the sleeping pad straps like the 65L has. I love my 38L Kestrel, perfect for day hiking and overnight. I haven't gone mulit day with it but I'm sure if your experienced with ultra light packing it suite I.
does this backpack comes with a raincover?
Mike Litoris only the European version which you can get online
I am sure this would have been a really good review but I just had to give up at the fourth mention of the Anti Gravity trampoline suspension and that is all I heard during the first 2 mins 43 secs. Sorry.
Would you recommend an osprey product over something like Teton? Weight is not really a factor and I'd spend the extra money if there is a crazy difference.
I'm looking for a 65L backpack if anyone has any suggestions. Thanks
love your reviews and thanks for the trouser review you are wearing I asked for. is it possible for a review on the 65L bag as there seems to be some differences between them. maybe it's a UK version thing but for example the 65 comes with a rain cover as a starter. hope you can as the 65 is my next investment I think as my berg rucksack has fallen apart after little use and here in UK the atmos ag 65L goes for the £170- £190 mark so want to make sure before investing. thanks again n keep up the great work
how tall are you brotha?
Excellent review. Seemed authentic and unbiased. I'm considering this pack but have researched and have a close second choice in the Jansport Katahdin 50..for about almost half the price. No hip pockets on the JK but sounds like the Osprey's aren't much use. Have you looked at this pack and do you have any thoughts on this
Idk what backpack you were talking about being the best bc the Atmos has been then best for quite a while.
Recently bought the Atmos 65 large and guess what it comes with a Osprey rain cover. ;-)
Haha It did? I want a rain cover Osprey! :D - Luke
Amazing review, just wanted to know how to attaché the Axe to Osprey Atmos AG 50. Thanks