ive got the 65l version and its a great bag you don't notice the weight due to the anti gravity system my load out last weekend was 13k including all food and water and it felt really comfortable if i had all that weight in my kestral 68 it would of been a different trip all together so i fully recommend these packs unless you're an ultralight geak 🤓
@@Danieles416 that particular time was just an overnighter probably walked 7-10k or there about but ive used it loads since and honestly if your on the fence about getting one i highly recommend it you will be hard pushed to find a pack as comfortable as this without paying stupid money 🤷🏻♂️
@@Danieles416 you can use the compression staps if you're carrying less but there may be a time when you're needing to take more and as the saying goes it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you for this great review. I wore one for a mile and was blown away how well it carried weight as opposed to my old Kelty trap/shoulder killer pack from 1999. Over 5 lbs but pretty damn amazing that you won’t feel that weight too much.
Unless I'm blind it looks like they've done away with the most useful feature of most big Osprey packs, that being the Stow and Go fittings. I use trekking poles a lot and find the stow and go system to be mandatory for my needs. Glad I went with the Exos 48 now. Got 3 Osprey packs now, Stratos 36 for Winter Day hikes (my 1st Osprey pack and got it 2nd hand for a steal), Atmos AG 65 for Winter camps, and the Exos 48 for spring/summer camps.
@@BackpackingUK Personally I would have chosen to lose the side entry zip and kept the stow n go. As a long time military bergan user, I'm used to a single main top access only compartment.
I desperately wanted to love this pack (well, the ladies version) but I just couldnt get on with it. The hip belt dug in in the wrong places for me and I just found it much too constricting- getting in and out of it is an artform! But it's fantastically well made and a worthy investment for someone who gets on with it. Ive ordered a couple of gregory packs to try as a possible contender 🤞
After watching your awesome video of the Osprey packs line up, I ordered ao the Kyte 48 and Aura 50 AG. I looove the Aura! ❤ When i got the first AG on in the store last week, the Ariel, i was so amazed. I seriousely thought she had missed a bag of weight, or two. I had the same today with the Aura. Very happy with it! Absolutely massive difference with the other brands i tried and also the Kyte, although i like that one too.
What features or other qualities does the Atos AG 50 have over the Atos AG 50 LT? Thanks! I was putting away the receipt of my Aura, and i see i mistakenly ordered the LT. I have gathered so much pack-info this last days, now i cannot recall why i had actually decided to not go for the LT. 😂 The LT is not only lighter, but also cheaper and of more recycled material. (And in a prettier color 😅) Seems a no-brainer? So... 🤔
Which one would you get for the same money, an Aether or this Atmos lt? Cannot decide... I only could try the Aether. Mostly will be used for multi day backpackings, around 15 kg, but ofc it can change later. I prioritize comfort. Hard to decide whether the AG system is needed or not.
Struggling to decide between the AG LT 50 or the exos 48 for mountain hiking hot and humid weather. AG 50 fit me well, and was more comfortable and ventilated than the Zulu 45. Unfortunately nowhere near me where I can try on the exos or focal
Yes, they do, and do on all the osprey packs that use the same, less than ideal, system. I have just purchased this pack btw. I find that no matter what water bottle pocket setup I have I detest, and despite good mobility, cannot get them in and out. My solution is to ask someone to help or take the pack off. Mostly taking the pack off is not a problem. I find that it ultimately helps my day. Fatigue levels are lower because I get a good stretch when it’s off and I will stop and get comfortable for a minute or two longer. It makes a big difference.
i had before aircontact 70+10 or 65 +10 not remember exactly. 2016 version brown. there a bottom poccket for maybe sleeping bag. osprey LT dont have it. how did you use it? it is so annoying every time take out all stuff to get 1 thing. depends how you pack the backpack but anyway when you use it everyday long period of time in some expedition or maybe adventure real one it is bad dont have real pocket on a bottom. it is one from 2 cons for me. second cons it is heap belt very long for me, i have not long heap radius. but i am 176cm height. other without LT version is very heavy and ugly, with not necessary futures. maybe you can explain gow you use it without bottom second pocket.
@@BackpackingUK sure but it´s extremely handy, keeps sleeping bag separate, clean and dry and if you have smelly or dirty stuff, you can easily store it there and put sleeping bag into main compartment. I love that one for organization
Hi. Great review thanks. I saw your review on the Kestrel 48 that is a bit cheaper. It seems you like it a lot too. What do you recommend? Should I go for the Kestrel or the Atmos and pay the extra?
Excellent, in-depth review on a nearly perfect backpack. Unfortunately no lower access/sleeping bag compartment so that's definitely a deal breaker for me. The search continues. Atb.
Re: sleeping bag compartment. Personally, I've never understood the need for one. You sleeping bag is the last thing you need to unpack and the first thing you need to pack away.
@@BackpackingUK The 'sleeping bag' compartment is where many of us landscape photographers store their camera bag for easy access. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
I kind of wanted to exos 48 but 100d main fabric is pretty thin imo. I wanted something similar to my exped lightning which had a 200d main fabric and still is only like 1.3kg. does the atmos ag Lt 50 actually weigh less than 1.9 when not including the rain cover? So actually 1.8? Would you say this is far superior to the exos 48?
It's 1.7kg, is it just me who finds that far too heavy? its a really comfy back pack but it just feels like over kill if you have a reasonably lightweight set up.
@@TimelordUK I’ve got an aether 65 I’ve used this past year. Upgrading this summer. Happy to sell at a good price for someone wanting to get into backpacking.
They're very different. The Exos 48 is much lighter. I suppose it depends how much gear you're looking at taking. Closer to 13kg I'd say Atmos, sub-10kg I'd say Exos.
I was looking at the Mo last night. Would you genuinely recommend it? It's a lot of money! I'd rather go with the Mo than the Atom+. Did you get any extras with it? E.g. hip pockets.
I have exactly the same Atmos LT 50. It weighs 1675 gs on my digital scale w/o rain cover (+108 gs). I replaced my lighter Exos 58 (2022 model) by this one, because it is more comfy and avoids shoulder pain.
@@BackpackingUKI have the same dilemma! I've got a sweaty back and loved my original Atmos AG50 so much I picked up the 65 as well (wish I'd waited for the LT), but I'm not sure if the major weight savings of the Mo would actually feel better. Check out the Bonfus Framus as well, lesser known but it's basically a Mo with a removable internal frame for the same weight which should help with weight transfer to the hips at least
It doesn't contain the Anti Gravity system its just the air speed like the Exos, infect it is the exact same panel on the back, the straps are a bit more padded than the exos so it should carry little more heavy better than the Exos., but Osprey say its ideal between 11-15KG which seems a little skimpy. The problem with this pack is it will probably will not carry much more than the Exos in weight comfort with it having the same back design and is heavier. Osprey are simply pumping out packs for the sake of it and lost the way in recent years, they designed this pack and omitted a stow on the go pole holders which a lot of people love for weight lol, this is a few inch's of 3 mm bungee cord and a few plastic mini toggles and then they add a side L zipper that is a pain to get to and pretty tight and useless that adds way more weight and complexity and failure point, but not a few grams of elastic toggle for hiking poles!. This screams a pack made and designed by a company who now probably have no one that actually wild camps working, testing and designing in it anymore! They finally decide to make a pack without the stupid lower sleeping bag compartment that most people hate that will also save weight and then replace it with a useless side zipper and omit the side quick release trekking pole holder LOL, plus make the pack not really a heavy hauling pack with its weight limit of 15KG. I gave up on the brand. The only thing they have going for them is the great warranty now. The Sierra Designs Flex Capacitor is a way better pack than any on the Osprey line up if you want a light weight framed pack that can carry heavy weights. If you had any doubt to what I say to the design of triose side pockets on this Atmos LT should be testament to my point, all the side compression strap runs over the side mesh pocket and cant be routed under it! So once you tighten it up you cant get water bottles in or out or other things easily which is ridiculous considering most Osprey packs years ago were able to do this! No proper pack designer who actually uses these things would ever design that.
It does use the anti gravity system - that's what the AG stands for in the name, and it's to do with how the solid frame is designed rather than the mesh back (which is the airspeed feature)
@@lewiji The true anti gravity system used the stiffer load lifting system that was not just standard webbing material load lifters like all other packs use, but they had rigid plastic built in and much wider. This was all part of the AG system. The ones you see on the latest Osprey packs is a water downed version of it and not the true AG systems, even when labelled as. So you are completely wrong Fella. I own various packs with and without it and have sent a few of these packs back because they are not like the old ones. This LT model does not have the AG system that is a fact! It used the system like on the latest Exos which I also own! This is why the LT model of thee Athos is rated at a paltry 30lbs around the same as the Exos which is a lighter pack in actual weight and is not comfy after the weight of around 30lb loaded up, it just uses the Airspeed system like the Exos This pack does not even have the AG in the title so get your facts right before trying to correct someone who actually uses them!
@wad6216 I'm wearing one right now and it has the stiff load lifters across the whole frame into the hips my friend. Not just webbing. And the name of the pack is Atmos AG LT 65.
@@lewiji BS there is no such model LOL LOL. The one you have is the same as this guy on here. You also don't even know what I'm on about with the load lifters, so further more is testament to you not having a clue!
ive got the 65l version and its a great bag you don't notice the weight due to the anti gravity system my load out last weekend was 13k including all food and water and it felt really comfortable if i had all that weight in my kestral 68 it would of been a different trip all together so i fully recommend these packs unless you're an ultralight geak 🤓
Thanks for sharing 👍
More comfy than the Kestrel then?
@@wad6216 obviously 🙄
@@Danieles416 that particular time was just an overnighter probably walked 7-10k or there about but ive used it loads since and honestly if your on the fence about getting one i highly recommend it you will be hard pushed to find a pack as comfortable as this without paying stupid money 🤷🏻♂️
@@Danieles416 you can use the compression staps if you're carrying less but there may be a time when you're needing to take more and as the saying goes it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you for this great review. I wore one for a mile and was blown away how well it carried weight as opposed to my old Kelty trap/shoulder killer pack from 1999. Over 5 lbs but pretty damn amazing that you won’t feel that weight too much.
Unless I'm blind it looks like they've done away with the most useful feature of most big Osprey packs, that being the Stow and Go fittings. I use trekking poles a lot and find the stow and go system to be mandatory for my needs. Glad I went with the Exos 48 now. Got 3 Osprey packs now, Stratos 36 for Winter Day hikes (my 1st Osprey pack and got it 2nd hand for a steal), Atmos AG 65 for Winter camps, and the Exos 48 for spring/summer camps.
That's one of the features that was omitted in order to reduce weight.
@@BackpackingUK Personally I would have chosen to lose the side entry zip and kept the stow n go. As a long time military bergan user, I'm used to a single main top access only compartment.
I desperately wanted to love this pack (well, the ladies version) but I just couldnt get on with it. The hip belt dug in in the wrong places for me and I just found it much too constricting- getting in and out of it is an artform! But it's fantastically well made and a worthy investment for someone who gets on with it. Ive ordered a couple of gregory packs to try as a possible contender 🤞
After watching your awesome video of the Osprey packs line up, I ordered ao the Kyte 48 and Aura 50 AG. I looove the Aura! ❤ When i got the first AG on in the store last week, the Ariel, i was so amazed. I seriousely thought she had missed a bag of weight, or two.
I had the same today with the Aura. Very happy with it! Absolutely massive difference with the other brands i tried and also the Kyte, although i like that one too.
What features or other qualities does the Atos AG 50 have over the Atos AG 50 LT? Thanks!
I was putting away the receipt of my Aura, and i see i mistakenly ordered the LT. I have gathered so much pack-info this last days, now i cannot recall why i had actually decided to not go for the LT. 😂 The LT is not only lighter, but also cheaper and of more recycled material. (And in a prettier color 😅) Seems a no-brainer? So... 🤔
Doesn’t get better than this 🤞🏼🔥
Which one would you get for the same money, an Aether or this Atmos lt? Cannot decide... I only could try the Aether. Mostly will be used for multi day backpackings, around 15 kg, but ofc it can change later. I prioritize comfort. Hard to decide whether the AG system is needed or not.
Struggling to decide between the AG LT 50 or the exos 48 for mountain hiking hot and humid weather. AG 50 fit me well, and was more comfortable and ventilated than the Zulu 45. Unfortunately nowhere near me where I can try on the exos or focal
If it’s hot and humid I’m guessing your pack weight might be light so I’d say Exos 👍
I wonfer if side compression straps get in a way to get water bottle in and out on the go from side pockets?
Yes, they do, and do on all the osprey packs that use the same, less than ideal, system. I have just purchased this pack btw. I find that no matter what water bottle pocket setup I have I detest, and despite good mobility, cannot get them in and out. My solution is to ask someone to help or take the pack off. Mostly taking the pack off is not a problem. I find that it ultimately helps my day. Fatigue levels are lower because I get a good stretch when it’s off and I will stop and get comfortable for a minute or two longer. It makes a big difference.
i had before aircontact 70+10 or 65 +10 not remember exactly. 2016 version brown. there a bottom poccket for maybe sleeping bag. osprey LT dont have it. how did you use it? it is so annoying every time take out all stuff to get 1 thing. depends how you pack the backpack but anyway when you use it everyday long period of time in some expedition or maybe adventure real one it is bad dont have real pocket on a bottom. it is one from 2 cons for me. second cons it is heap belt very long for me, i have not long heap radius. but i am 176cm height. other without LT version is very heavy and ugly, with not necessary futures. maybe you can explain gow you use it without bottom second pocket.
just why on earth would they not add the sleeping bag compartment???? It would be a no brainer for me with one
I guess because it’s the first thing you pack, and the last thing you take out.
@@BackpackingUK sure but it´s extremely handy, keeps sleeping bag separate, clean and dry and if you have smelly or dirty stuff, you can easily store it there and put sleeping bag into main compartment. I love that one for organization
@@budzugan fair enough, I put my sleeping bags and clothes in separate dry bags so I don’t really have that problem.
Hi. Great review thanks. I saw your review on the Kestrel 48 that is a bit cheaper. It seems you like it a lot too. What do you recommend? Should I go for the Kestrel or the Atmos and pay the extra?
I’d go Kestrel for lighter loads and Atmos for slightly heavier loads.
Hi Andy, great video, thanks for making. I'm trying to decide which size to get. What is your torso size?
If 5’8 172cm and wear a size S/M. I’ve got a reasonably long back for my height.
Excellent, in-depth review on a nearly perfect backpack. Unfortunately no lower access/sleeping bag compartment so that's definitely a deal breaker for me. The search continues. Atb.
Re: sleeping bag compartment. Personally, I've never understood the need for one. You sleeping bag is the last thing you need to unpack and the first thing you need to pack away.
@@BackpackingUK The 'sleeping bag' compartment is where many of us landscape photographers store their camera bag for easy access. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Does this have the stow and go system for your poles? Thanks
I don’t think so, the full AG does.
How does this Atmos pack compare with the Unltd 64 for comfort and weight distribution?
probably not that different not an extra £370 different thats for sure i think £699 for a backpack is crazy
Very similar. The UNLTD is better but there's not much in it, certainly not £370 worth!
I kind of wanted to exos 48 but 100d main fabric is pretty thin imo. I wanted something similar to my exped lightning which had a 200d main fabric and still is only like 1.3kg. does the atmos ag Lt 50 actually weigh less than 1.9 when not including the rain cover? So actually 1.8? Would you say this is far superior to the exos 48?
It’s certainly more heavy duty than the Exos. You could remove the rain cover to save weight 👍
Are shoulder straps on. Lighting are comfy enough?
It's 1.7kg, is it just me who finds that far too heavy? its a really comfy back pack but it just feels like over kill if you have a reasonably lightweight set up.
If you had a lightweight set up you’d go Exos all day long 👍
@@BackpackingUK have a look into the Gossamer Gears bag range, the Exos pro is good, but I just find Osprey to be over-engineered
I have about 4kg of extra energy with me, the pack is lite in comparison. Loose weight is my approach to lightening up the load.
What is the load limit for lite series?
Not sure off the top of my head, try Osprey 👍
Will this fit in an overhead on a flight?
Sorry, no idea!
Is this as comfy as the AG version?
This is the AG 👍
Sorry, I meant the AG non LT version?
I just want to buy ONE backpack for ALL seasons and compress it down if I'm carrying less in the warmer months. Any (affordable) suggestions?
Sierra Designs Flex Capacitor 40-60 or Flex Trail 40-60
@@Tradigm thank you Tradigm I'll have a look
@@TimelordUK I’ve got an aether 65 I’ve used this past year. Upgrading this summer. Happy to sell at a good price for someone wanting to get into backpacking.
Still a heavy bag.
@@paulhicky 100%, but it carries the weight so well you forget about the extra 400g
I was just about to buy the Osprey exos 48.... would it be wise to get this instead? 🤔
They're very different. The Exos 48 is much lighter. I suppose it depends how much gear you're looking at taking. Closer to 13kg I'd say Atmos, sub-10kg I'd say Exos.
Exos 48 or 58 you can't go wrong, super backpacks
Exos struggles around the 15KG mark it is just out right uncomfortable
Boy, that's heavy. My Atom Packs Mo50 and my Tarptent Double Rainbow Li are together still 10oz lighter than this pack.
I was looking at the Mo last night. Would you genuinely recommend it? It's a lot of money! I'd rather go with the Mo than the Atom+. Did you get any extras with it? E.g. hip pockets.
I have exactly the same Atmos LT 50. It weighs 1675 gs on my digital scale w/o rain cover (+108 gs). I replaced my lighter Exos 58 (2022 model) by this one, because it is more comfy and avoids shoulder pain.
@@BackpackingUKI have the same dilemma! I've got a sweaty back and loved my original Atmos AG50 so much I picked up the 65 as well (wish I'd waited for the LT), but I'm not sure if the major weight savings of the Mo would actually feel better. Check out the Bonfus Framus as well, lesser known but it's basically a Mo with a removable internal frame for the same weight which should help with weight transfer to the hips at least
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I know it’s a framed pack but my big 3 weigh less than that put together!
Like I said, this pack is more suited to Spring and Autumn gear.
@@BackpackingUK still heavy for those seasons, but it’s horses for courses thankfully we are all different so if you love that’s great!
I'm 176cm, but got the large/xl version. Does that mean I screwed up?
Just measured my spine from hip to c7 and was 50cm.
Not necessarily, check their size charts out. In any case, if it fits, it fits!
Did you screw up?
It doesn't contain the Anti Gravity system its just the air speed like the Exos, infect it is the exact same panel on the back, the straps are a bit more padded than the exos so it should carry little more heavy better than the Exos., but Osprey say its ideal between 11-15KG which seems a little skimpy. The problem with this pack is it will probably will not carry much more than the Exos in weight comfort with it having the same back design and is heavier. Osprey are simply pumping out packs for the sake of it and lost the way in recent years, they designed this pack and omitted a stow on the go pole holders which a lot of people love for weight lol, this is a few inch's of 3 mm bungee cord and a few plastic mini toggles and then they add a side L zipper that is a pain to get to and pretty tight and useless that adds way more weight and complexity and failure point, but not a few grams of elastic toggle for hiking poles!. This screams a pack made and designed by a company who now probably have no one that actually wild camps working, testing and designing in it anymore! They finally decide to make a pack without the stupid lower sleeping bag compartment that most people hate that will also save weight and then replace it with a useless side zipper and omit the side quick release trekking pole holder LOL, plus make the pack not really a heavy hauling pack with its weight limit of 15KG. I gave up on the brand. The only thing they have going for them is the great warranty now.
The Sierra Designs Flex Capacitor is a way better pack than any on the Osprey line up if you want a light weight framed pack that can carry heavy weights. If you had any doubt to what I say to the design of triose side pockets on this Atmos LT should be testament to my point, all the side compression strap runs over the side mesh pocket and cant be routed under it! So once you tighten it up you cant get water bottles in or out or other things easily which is ridiculous considering most Osprey packs years ago were able to do this! No proper pack designer who actually uses these things would ever design that.
It does use the anti gravity system - that's what the AG stands for in the name, and it's to do with how the solid frame is designed rather than the mesh back (which is the airspeed feature)
@@lewiji The true anti gravity system used the stiffer load lifting system that was not just standard webbing material load lifters like all other packs use, but they had rigid plastic built in and much wider. This was all part of the AG system. The ones you see on the latest Osprey packs is a water downed version of it and not the true AG systems, even when labelled as. So you are completely wrong Fella. I own various packs with and without it and have sent a few of these packs back because they are not like the old ones. This LT model does not have the AG system that is a fact! It used the system like on the latest Exos which I also own! This is why the LT model of thee Athos is rated at a paltry 30lbs around the same as the Exos which is a lighter pack in actual weight and is not comfy after the weight of around 30lb loaded up, it just uses the Airspeed system like the Exos This pack does not even have the AG in the title so get your facts right before trying to correct someone who actually uses them!
@wad6216 I'm wearing one right now and it has the stiff load lifters across the whole frame into the hips my friend. Not just webbing. And the name of the pack is Atmos AG LT 65.
@@lewiji BS there is no such model LOL LOL. The one you have is the same as this guy on here. You also don't even know what I'm on about with the load lifters, so further more is testament to you not having a clue!
@wad6216 why are you so confidently wrong? The mark of an utter fool. Just Google the name, this video got the name wrong.