@@maddysydney Unique design, well built and all the bells and whistles without specifying and paying for a long list of extras. I’m impressed with quality and features. I would like to see better fuel economy. I have about 4500 miles on the GV80 now and not a single problem. It has the luxury that I wanted and the ability to move everything that we need when go back and forth to our cottage.
@@vfilosi Thanks for the reply. I am seriously considering getting one. Haven’t owned a luxury car before but though I can afford an Audi Q7 or BMW X5, they are dime a dozen and blend in with the other Asian/ American cars. The exterior design of the GV80 is eye catching and the interiors are luxurious. While I would like a good sporty BMW X5, the luxury/ accessories in this are quite enticing 😀
Merry Christmas George ......... Looking forward to a very car intensive 2021 from you. God Bless and I hope the leg is doing well. You look great! TC Boyle
Thank you, TC . . . Appreciate the kind thoughts . . . And we have one more episode to go for this season that is of a car we all love and includes a bit of a recovery update. This Saturday. Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas!
@@mastertry1935 I agree. I was wondering if folks were comparing the Genesis with the 2020 Nautilus or the 2021 Nautilus which is quite different from the previous Nautilus. I have been looking at them all and the only thing that I wish that Lincoln had done was to hide the rear wiper like they did on the Aviator. I have an MKX and I like its size for our purposes but the Aviator is nice -- just a tad too long as is the Genesis which I think is great too. Also, wish that the Nautilus had the touch rotary dial to handle commands to the Entertainment screen but am hopeful that the voice command will be better than the horrid one on the 2011 MKX.
I will be new car shopping in the Spring. I hope that between now and then I can decipher what it is that he is suggesting to buy? The longer that I listened,... the more confused I became. lol
I don't mind the steering wheel, but definitely agree on interior and exterior color options. Hyundai tends to really limit these on the Hyundai branded cars, which isn't terribly surprising, but it's really surprising to see on the Genesis cars.
To be fair, it should be noted that there’s only so much you can do to refine a 4 cylinder engine. By nature of their design, they rev really high resulting in that awful, unrefined noise. I’ve heard the same racket coming from Audis, Mercedes, BMWs and VWs. I’m starting to like Genesis but I think I’d go for the six, especially in an SUV this big.
Wondering why auto reviewers consider lean such a terrible thing? Doesn't bother me. I'm thinking that the lean is a sign that the vehicle is more softly sprung and not transmitting road imperfections to the body as "harshly" as if it were stiffer and had less lean and dive.
ok, so i never really considered the Edge or the Atlas Sport 4s because I thought long term, the weight and workloads of everyday real-life use would be to much on the little engines. is it a real concern? is forcing even more power out from them, as in this case, better or worse in the long run? somebody needs to make up their minds because most reviewers through the past have told us this is the case. isn't the power supposed to come on below 2000 rpm?at 3000 seems more naturally aspirated power output.
I agree 100% on interior color options: at the same price level and materials, I always find the black interior looking cheaper and lacking a wow factor. I have a G70 with the light grey nappa leather, contrasting so nicely with the Mallorca blue paint, I smile every time I drive the car, such a great environment to sit in (the driving dynamics are the other cause for the smile). Interested in the GV80 and considering putting more money for the V6 mainly to unlock the color options (I want that tan/navy interior)
If the horsepower rolls on around 5800 rpm, and torque drops off after 4000 rpm, does that mean that this vehicle has a 1400 rpm hole where you're not getting good power delivery? the relationship between torque and horsepower curves has always confused me.
Such a nice vehicle, but you’re so right MM, I can’t get past that steering wheel either. It’s like something out of a 1970’s GM vehicle. Very old fashioned but not in a good way. Give me the 3.5 V6 with adjustable dampers however because I’m all about handling in a vehicle this size. Great set of reviews on all the Genesis G80/GV80 series.
Just read your Crown Vic comment on the steering wheel. You NAILED IT! I was trying to think which vehicle I had seen that exact design before. Well done sir!
Motoman, I've watched a lot of your videos and it's obvious you're drinking the Hyundai/Kia Kool-Aid, my friend. Lol!! You lob shit balls at the Mazda 3 Turbo and then heap high-praise on anything from Korea. :)
Love your videos! One small piece of advice - you might be almost to the point of overuse with phrases like “anything you want so long as it is *insert single option*” Hope you can appreciate this constructive feedback. Keep it up! 👍🏻
Because you can buy a Rav4 hybrid and a CRV hybrid. Many luxery buyers still want the step up in performance and power, even if it's simply the illusion of it and they will never use it.
Because that's not how that works. Halving the hp ≠ double the economy. Additionally, sometimes it's actually better to have a larger displacement so the engine won't have to work as hard. To get higher mpg in this class you will need a hybrid system or diesel.
Great point. In households where a woman lives, research shows they weigh in heavily on which vehicle to purchase (SUV) and features (great mileage, lots of room). :)
Automotive engineers...listen to me carefully. Analog gauges increase clockwise, not counter-clockwise. I was interested in this vehicle, however briefly, until I saw this. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel...and doing it badly.
@@bradleyscarreviews What else do I need to see? It's just stupid and flies in the face of common sense design and ergonomics. The worst part is there's no way to change it.
No it’s not. The type s model doesn’t even have as much horsepower as the genesis 3.5tt. It’s not even over hyped. Your just biased. Bet you haven’t sat in neither of them.
@@bradleyscarreviews lol - listen to your rant. I’m not the one getting so argumentative and sounding biased. MDX is the segment’s three row SUV sales leader and the new looks to keep that lead.
@@drkvenger The GV80 is more of a two row with an option for a third row. The future GV90 will be their three row SUV. Loaded 2020 MDXs are selling for almost $5k under invoice, not sticker, but invoice, for around $53k. Remove the unnecessary rear seat entertainment package and you're at about $51k. The cheapest SH-AWD can be had for just over $40k. The base FWD version can be had for under $39k or about the price of a well equipped, not loaded, Bronco Sport or Kia Sorento. That's a big reason why they're selling so well. Not sure when it's coming out, but the GV90 will probably be around $20k more than any MDX. It will compare more with X7s, GLS's and Aviators. The MDX is probably more comparable to the Telluride or Palisade, then Q7s, X5s and GLEs, and actually similarly priced in terms of true market value ($40-$50k)...
More so very impressed with what they are doing from a business and strategy point of view. Right now, in the 'laying the groundwork' stage. Interested to see what they do with upcoming EV architecture that we already know is coming to H&K.
Exciting Review, great background as always! But the car is....meh let's say it looks very boring to me, inside and outside. What sells and holds the value? Exciting looks and sound. This one is none of this.
Gorgeous car, but... We are now in the XXI century and we don't need any more gas power cars, SUVs, etc. If you purchase one of those cars after 5-8 years reselling value will be about $ 10K. Genesis wakes up and adds hybrid and electric as well.
@@MrMustangrick stop being a brand snob. Jeesh give genesis a chance. They are having legal issues with getting a proper standalone dealer. Genesis’s resale value is not that terrible.
base price 54, 600. hmmm. for a 2.5 4 cylinder with lots of body rolland buzz from the motor. no. instead, take the AVIATOR Reserve. starting at 57,780...you get a 300 HP V^ . not even close
the level of luxury is far greater than gv80 than a lincoln. there is a weird fordness to lincolns. you sit on these gv80 it will just blow you away. so for me i'll pay little more for a nicely equipped gv80.
@@joec.5009 i need to repeat myself here because you don't seem to understand. the immediate luxury you feel is in fact blink. topical. beauty is skin deep. it is what is under that counts. and I for one will not give the korean brands a get outa jail card from their earlier crap. if you would take the time to go search for reviews of owners with actual long term seat time, you would know. their warranties are fake and lawyer designed. their MPGs are nowhere near the advertised and their build is crappy. don't give me this old wive's tale about the lincoln ford twins. the navigator is a completely different driving car from the explorer...even though the ST is fantastic to drive as is even the base. and BTW, the foed base 2.3 is tons better than this car. and the lincoln's 3.0 turbo is simply no going to be compared to this base engine. please
@@paulpellico3797 ooh. korean car hater i see. i've finally warmed up to korean cars. i'm in awe of their work ethic and the relentless pursuit of greatness. yes, they are not perfect. yes, they made crap in the past. but i'm just amazed by how far they've come. telluride/palisade really opened my eyes. and then i sat on these. and wow, i couldn't believe my eyes. you should be embracing their emergence. MPG fiasco has been in the past, yes. but now they routinely get a very good MPG nowdays. kia niro for example has almost as good as tesla model 3 in real world range. i was impressed with aviator somewhat. but it still felt lacking in many areas. you can't change how i felt about it. the level of fit and finish and material quality just wasn't up there with Genesis. you will understand it if you see it in person. aviator felt like a great premium car. it felt like it should compete with xc90, mdx and so son. Genesis felt like a tier above. no ifs and buts about it. it didn't feel like a same class at all. in a way aviator is somewhere between palisade and gv80. it's actually closer to palisade than gv80 in certain point of view.
@@joec.5009 i HAVE seen and DRIVEN. i test drive cars all the time. i test drove the Hyundai palisades and walked away stunned how everybody was giving it so much love. to me, it rolled to much in corners and in fact felt horribly sluggish off every red light. thinking of having to face this every day of ownership made me wonder what in the heck reviewers are thinking. as far as the niro, dunno. but we own three teslas now. the only ones worth their money are the two X. the s is horribly uncomforting and has a hard armrest...making daily drives to work feel long. the 3 interior is horrid. in fact, how they get past safety regulations when you're not allowed to text...but ARE allowed to play with a large touch pad off the side is how wrong our society is in regulations. like...you know...gotta wear seatbelts or get a ticket yet it is A OK to ride a motorcycle. weird, almost george carlin humor toit.
@@paulpellico3797 Teslas are horrible fit & finish but they are getting better. they are still the best EVs, but competition is catching up. but Tesla is loaded with money and can easily raise money, so they will continue to be ahead of the competition. i love TSLA stocks, but really don't care about their car. at least not yet. i'm warming up to it though. i have nothing against the lincolns. it's a compelling car in a volvo kinda way. i'm very fond of lincoln. my mom's friend brought a brand new towncar in 92. that thing rode like a dream. i never knew a car could be so comfortable. on top of that navigator is a top 2 american flagship along with escalade. red on red interior. it was a beauty. i didn't even care how it rode like a boat. but man that was silky smooth car. i just feel like Genesis has an ambition to challenge the germans. obviously they know their limitations and brought all these euro talents. i know sang yup lee dude is korean, but he also worked for bentley. they are poaching every talents and it's clearly working. i'm looking at them and feel like they are 90's lexus. they are working on to make stand alone dealerships. i think it would be a tremendous step up when they have a dealership to match their nice cars.
If you know the problems that hyundai/kia/genesis had this year in korea. You will never in a million years even consider any hyundai/kia/genesis. It's a fact.
This is a really interesting comment. From watching and reading automotive news, it's this interesting divide of people praising those companies for their new designs, coupled with many stories of lawsuits and recalls. Feel moreso than any other car brand. I know the diesel version of the GV80 has already been recalled in Korea for engine stalling.
Hyundai/Genesis is the not necessarily Ugly but, Poor Girl in High School who wore KnockOffs Graduate and moves to LA, Works Hard an becomes Successful and Marrys a Rich/Handsome Guy who she brings to her 10 Year Reunion to show off and make her Classmates regret Bullying & Picking on her lol
Korean SUV can not crush Japanese and German SUV! You will rarely see GV80 on the road... the same way you rarely see Genesis cars on the road like the G80. You will see lots of Lexus, Acura, BMW, and Audi on the road. Also, Toyota used BMW for their new Supra instead of Genesis!
Bought the GV80 5 days ago. I've owed Porsche, Mercedes, Audi and Cadillac. One word for Genesis......Awesome.
You wish...!!
What is the best part/ difference from the other luxury cars?
@@maddysydney it’s cheaper lol
@@maddysydney Unique design, well built and all the bells and whistles without specifying and paying for a long list of extras. I’m impressed with quality and features. I would like to see better fuel economy. I have about 4500 miles on the GV80 now and not a single problem. It has the luxury that I wanted and the ability to move everything that we need when go back and forth to our cottage.
@@vfilosi Thanks for the reply. I am seriously considering getting one. Haven’t owned a luxury car before but though I can afford an Audi Q7 or BMW X5, they are dime a dozen and blend in with the other Asian/ American cars. The exterior design of the GV80 is eye catching and the interiors are luxurious. While I would like a good sporty BMW X5, the luxury/ accessories in this are quite enticing 😀
Instant fan of Genesis brand ❤️
A coworker bought a 3.5t GV80 and it is stunning! The target is on EVERY manufacturers back.
You always get 100% retention from me all the way until the end. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks, Eddy . . . greatly appreciate it!
Merry Christmas George ......... Looking forward to a very car intensive 2021 from you. God Bless and I hope the leg is doing well. You look great!
TC Boyle
Thank you, TC . . . Appreciate the kind thoughts . . . And we have one more episode to go for this season that is of a car we all love and includes a bit of a recovery update. This Saturday. Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas!
I like the steering wheel reminds me of cars from the 70's :)
Hey how's it going would you pick this or the new lincoln Nautilus
This.
@@MotoManTV and why? also is this being compared to the 2021 Nautilus?
@@phlotographer I think this competes with Aviator
@@mastertry1935 I agree. I was wondering if folks were comparing the Genesis with the 2020 Nautilus or the 2021 Nautilus which is quite different from the previous Nautilus. I have been looking at them all and the only thing that I wish that Lincoln had done was to hide the rear wiper like they did on the Aviator. I have an MKX and I like its size for our purposes but the Aviator is nice -- just a tad too long as is the Genesis which I think is great too. Also, wish that the Nautilus had the touch rotary dial to handle commands to the Entertainment screen but am hopeful that the voice command will be better than the horrid one on the 2011 MKX.
I'd go with the Lincoln Nautilus or Aviator Black Label.
I'm glad I don't have enough $$$ to try to figure all this out 😥
Sorry you ain’t got the money, I don’t either, but damn that was funny to me 😂😂😂😂😂
I will be new car shopping in the Spring. I hope that between now and then I can decipher what it is that he is suggesting to buy? The longer that I listened,... the more confused I became. lol
Genesis is trying hard to do something what Acura, Infiniti and Lexus haven’t been able to do in so many years
Honestly I started asking dealers in my country about this car
I don't mind the steering wheel, but definitely agree on interior and exterior color options. Hyundai tends to really limit these on the Hyundai branded cars, which isn't terribly surprising, but it's really surprising to see on the Genesis cars.
Agree! Genesis GV80 reminds me of Lexus ls400 entry in 1980s. Hyundai worked so hard to build genesis brand
these modern 4 bangers have as much power as some v12s of not that long ago. but use a fraction of the fuel. crazy!
To be fair, it should be noted that there’s only so much you can do to refine a 4 cylinder engine. By nature of their design, they rev really high resulting in that awful, unrefined noise. I’ve heard the same racket coming from Audis, Mercedes, BMWs and VWs. I’m starting to like Genesis but I think I’d go for the six, especially in an SUV this big.
They need to use the same sport steering wheel they showed in the GV70 sport
Good video. Thank you
Steering wheel is awesome! that is your opinion!
will this genesis last 10-15 years?
What has more power? 300hp in a turbo 4 or 300hp in a turbo 6? Which uses more fuel
Wondering why auto reviewers consider lean such a terrible thing? Doesn't bother me. I'm thinking that the lean is a sign that the vehicle is more softly sprung and not transmitting road imperfections to the body as "harshly" as if it were stiffer and had less lean and dive.
Buying a GV80 this month. I honestly don’t understand the steering wheel complaint. It looks ok. Just not as awesome as the rest of the car.
ok, so i never really considered the Edge or the Atlas Sport 4s because I thought long term, the weight and workloads of everyday real-life use would be to much on the little engines.
is it a real concern?
is forcing even more power out from them, as in this case, better or worse in the long run?
somebody needs to make up their minds because most reviewers through the past have told us this is the case.
isn't the power supposed to come on below 2000 rpm?at 3000 seems more naturally aspirated power output.
I agree 100% on interior color options: at the same price level and materials, I always find the black interior looking cheaper and lacking a wow factor. I have a G70 with the light grey nappa leather, contrasting so nicely with the Mallorca blue paint, I smile every time I drive the car, such a great environment to sit in (the driving dynamics are the other cause for the smile). Interested in the GV80 and considering putting more money for the V6 mainly to unlock the color options (I want that tan/navy interior)
If the horsepower rolls on around 5800 rpm, and torque drops off after 4000 rpm, does that mean that this vehicle has a 1400 rpm hole where you're not getting good power delivery? the relationship between torque and horsepower curves has always confused me.
How do you think 3.0Diesel for GV80 much better choice for girl or it 2,5T?
no, that steering wheel is gorgeous! great deviation from the cookie cutters
Such a nice vehicle, but you’re so right MM, I can’t get past that steering wheel either. It’s like something out of a 1970’s GM vehicle. Very old fashioned but not in a good way. Give me the 3.5 V6 with adjustable dampers however because I’m all about handling in a vehicle this size. Great set of reviews on all the Genesis G80/GV80 series.
Just read your Crown Vic comment on the steering wheel. You NAILED IT! I was trying to think which vehicle I had seen that exact design before. Well done sir!
"The one the people are actually going to buy"
The GV80 Prestige 3.5T is the one everyone is trying to buy. There's a 6 month waiting list on them.
Motoman, I've watched a lot of your videos and it's obvious you're drinking the Hyundai/Kia Kool-Aid, my friend. Lol!! You lob shit balls at the Mazda 3 Turbo and then heap high-praise on anything from Korea. :)
Love your videos! One small piece of advice - you might be almost to the point of overuse with phrases like “anything you want so long as it is *insert single option*”
Hope you can appreciate this constructive feedback. Keep it up! 👍🏻
Not just Genesis but any car company that has leatherette seats in their luxury car -is it really luxurious?
Could be vegan...
I agree on the steering wheel!
Instead of giving every CUV 300+ hp why don't they make a CUV that gets like 60mpg but has half the hp?
That's what Toyota and Lexus do
Because you can buy a Rav4 hybrid and a CRV hybrid. Many luxery buyers still want the step up in performance and power, even if it's simply the illusion of it and they will never use it.
People buying a 7 seat suv want power not mpgs in the US, and gas is only 2.50/gal or so for premium.
Because that's not how that works. Halving the hp ≠ double the economy. Additionally, sometimes it's actually better to have a larger displacement so the engine won't have to work as hard. To get higher mpg in this class you will need a hybrid system or diesel.
Great point. In households where a woman lives, research shows they weigh in heavily on which vehicle to purchase (SUV) and features (great mileage, lots of room). :)
Give me a Genesis G Wagon.
I heard that the G70 shootingbrake is rumored to being tested, so I guess we might be seeing a wagon soon.
Exterior colour name of this vehicle?
Automotive engineers...listen to me carefully. Analog gauges increase clockwise, not counter-clockwise. I was interested in this vehicle, however briefly, until I saw this. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel...and doing it badly.
But the analog one does move clock wise.... the digital one however does not 😂
Don’t make that change ur mind. Look at it in person.
@@bradleyscarreviews What else do I need to see? It's just stupid and flies in the face of common sense design and ergonomics. The worst part is there's no way to change it.
@@dvatp as I said, see it in person before you judge.
GV80 is a fine car, but really been over-hyped. The upcoming MDX is still the crown holder.
No it’s not. The type s model doesn’t even have as much horsepower as the genesis 3.5tt. It’s not even over hyped. Your just biased. Bet you haven’t sat in neither of them.
@@bradleyscarreviews lol - listen to your rant. I’m not the one getting so argumentative and sounding biased. MDX is the segment’s three row SUV sales leader and the new looks to keep that lead.
@@drkvenger how do you know? We are yet to see the comparison once it comes out.
@@bradleyscarreviews calm down. It’s called an opinion based on first impressions. I didnt say anything bad about the GV80.
@@drkvenger The GV80 is more of a two row with an option for a third row. The future GV90 will be their three row SUV. Loaded 2020 MDXs are selling for almost $5k under invoice, not sticker, but invoice, for around $53k. Remove the unnecessary rear seat entertainment package and you're at about $51k. The cheapest SH-AWD can be had for just over $40k. The base FWD version can be had for under $39k or about the price of a well equipped, not loaded, Bronco Sport or Kia Sorento. That's a big reason why they're selling so well. Not sure when it's coming out, but the GV90 will probably be around $20k more than any MDX. It will compare more with X7s, GLS's and Aviators. The MDX is probably more comparable to the Telluride or Palisade, then Q7s, X5s and GLEs, and actually similarly priced in terms of true market value ($40-$50k)...
A sport variant, GV70 red leather and carbon fiber interior is lovely!
You really like genesis don’t you? Guess what me too
More so very impressed with what they are doing from a business and strategy point of view. Right now, in the 'laying the groundwork' stage. Interested to see what they do with upcoming EV architecture that we already know is coming to H&K.
@@MotoManTV 👍
All I am seeing is people shelling out big money for the top trim.
Why compare this an SUV with the G80 sedan? And not apple to apple with say German SUV?
I agree about steering wheel. It’s the breaking point of this car. A lot of people are really put off by it.
Just be glad it didn’t crush Tiger Woods
It needs a sport package
Exciting Review, great background as always! But the car is....meh let's say it looks very boring to me, inside and outside.
What sells and holds the value? Exciting looks and sound. This one is none of this.
Favorite part of this Genesis?
Their approach to design and the folks they hired to do so.
The 2.5t is unrefined not really a good value
Gorgeous car, but... We are now in the XXI century and we don't need any more gas power cars, SUVs, etc. If you purchase one of those cars after 5-8 years reselling value will be about $ 10K. Genesis wakes up and adds hybrid and electric as well.
Exactly, buying cars or suvs that cost more than $40,000 no matter what at this point seems foolish
Doubt it, The Lexus RX is the champ, has been for years.
Rx will always be rx until the world ends 😉
This is best lol. The Lexus sucks compared to this!
@@bradleyscarreviews Wrong. Genesis service is at Hyundai dealership. That sucks big time. The resale on Genesis sucks compared to Lexus.
@@MrMustangrick stop being a brand snob. Jeesh give genesis a chance. They are having legal issues with getting a proper standalone dealer. Genesis’s resale value is not that terrible.
base price 54, 600.
hmmm.
for a 2.5 4 cylinder with lots of body rolland buzz from the motor.
no.
instead, take the AVIATOR Reserve.
starting at 57,780...you get a 300 HP V^ .
not
even
close
the level of luxury is far greater than gv80 than a lincoln. there is a weird fordness to lincolns. you sit on these gv80 it will just blow you away. so for me i'll pay little more for a nicely equipped gv80.
@@joec.5009 i need to repeat myself here because you don't seem to understand.
the immediate luxury you feel is in fact blink. topical.
beauty is skin deep.
it is what is under that counts.
and I for one will not give the korean brands a get outa jail card from their earlier crap.
if you would take the time to go search for reviews of owners with actual long term seat time, you would know.
their warranties are fake and lawyer designed.
their MPGs are nowhere near the advertised and their build is crappy.
don't give me this old wive's tale about the lincoln ford twins. the navigator is a completely different driving car from the explorer...even though the ST is fantastic to drive as is even the base.
and BTW, the foed base 2.3 is tons better than this car.
and the lincoln's 3.0 turbo is simply no going to be compared to this base engine.
please
@@paulpellico3797 ooh. korean car hater i see. i've finally warmed up to korean cars. i'm in awe of their work ethic and the relentless pursuit of greatness. yes, they are not perfect. yes, they made crap in the past. but i'm just amazed by how far they've come. telluride/palisade really opened my eyes. and then i sat on these. and wow, i couldn't believe my eyes.
you should be embracing their emergence. MPG fiasco has been in the past, yes. but now they routinely get a very good MPG nowdays. kia niro for example has almost as good as tesla model 3 in real world range. i was impressed with aviator somewhat. but it still felt lacking in many areas. you can't change how i felt about it. the level of fit and finish and material quality just wasn't up there with Genesis. you will understand it if you see it in person. aviator felt like a great premium car. it felt like it should compete with xc90, mdx and so son. Genesis felt like a tier above. no ifs and buts about it. it didn't feel like a same class at all. in a way aviator is somewhere between palisade and gv80. it's actually closer to palisade than gv80 in certain point of view.
@@joec.5009 i HAVE seen and DRIVEN.
i test drive cars all the time.
i test drove the Hyundai palisades and walked away stunned how everybody was giving it so much love.
to me, it rolled to much in corners and in fact felt horribly sluggish off every red light. thinking of having to face this every day of ownership made me wonder what in the heck reviewers are thinking.
as far as the niro, dunno.
but we own three teslas now. the only ones worth their money are the two X. the s is horribly uncomforting and has a hard armrest...making daily drives to work feel long.
the 3 interior is horrid. in fact, how they get past safety regulations when you're not allowed to text...but ARE allowed to play with a large touch pad off the side is how wrong our society is in regulations.
like...you know...gotta wear seatbelts or get a ticket yet it is A OK to ride a motorcycle.
weird, almost george carlin humor toit.
@@paulpellico3797 Teslas are horrible fit & finish but they are getting better. they are still the best EVs, but competition is catching up. but Tesla is loaded with money and can easily raise money, so they will continue to be ahead of the competition. i love TSLA stocks, but really don't care about their car. at least not yet. i'm warming up to it though.
i have nothing against the lincolns. it's a compelling car in a volvo kinda way. i'm very fond of lincoln. my mom's friend brought a brand new towncar in 92. that thing rode like a dream. i never knew a car could be so comfortable. on top of that navigator is a top 2 american flagship along with escalade. red on red interior. it was a beauty. i didn't even care how it rode like a boat. but man that was silky smooth car.
i just feel like Genesis has an ambition to challenge the germans. obviously they know their limitations and brought all these euro talents. i know sang yup lee dude is korean, but he also worked for bentley. they are poaching every talents and it's clearly working. i'm looking at them and feel like they are 90's lexus. they are working on to make stand alone dealerships. i think it would be a tremendous step up when they have a dealership to match their nice cars.
If you know the problems that hyundai/kia/genesis had this year in korea. You will never in a million years even consider any hyundai/kia/genesis. It's a fact.
This is a really interesting comment. From watching and reading automotive news, it's this interesting divide of people praising those companies for their new designs, coupled with many stories of lawsuits and recalls. Feel moreso than any other car brand. I know the diesel version of the GV80 has already been recalled in Korea for engine stalling.
What a weird looking SUV.
1st View!
This car sucks so much lol
Hyundai/Genesis is the not necessarily Ugly but, Poor Girl in High School who wore KnockOffs Graduate and moves to LA, Works Hard an becomes Successful and Marrys a Rich/Handsome Guy who she brings to her 10 Year Reunion to show off and make her Classmates regret Bullying & Picking on her lol
first
Hyundai quality is pretty crappy, like blown engines.
No they aren’t. They got rid of those engines, duh. They aren’t crappy like you.
$55k? Are you kidding me! It's not even a Lexus. No wonder, BMW& AMG dominate the mid level luxury market.
It should be at $35k fully loaded than it's competitive 😁
@@mikekim1854 lol no. Ur just a badge snob.
David is a badge snob.
I think this is one super ugly SUV! I liked the older Genesis much more - now they have managed to make ugly and trying to pretend it is pretty!
Korean SUV can not crush Japanese and German SUV! You will rarely see GV80 on the road... the same way you rarely see Genesis cars on the road like the G80. You will see lots of Lexus, Acura, BMW, and Audi on the road. Also, Toyota used BMW for their new Supra instead of Genesis!