This is the only decent review of this thing. The tech head reviewers are all "Ooh, it's no good for 4K video editing", "Ooh, it doesn't have dedicated graphics", "Ooh, the lid flexes when you twist it", "Ooh, it doesn't feel as premium as the Dell XPS". They are, as we say in the UK, a bunch of wankers. There is nothing else like it on the market unless, as you say, you want a refrigerator. Managed to track one down in the UK (for some reason the thing is as rare as hens teeth over here) and I am well pleased. Good job fellah.
Thank you! Yea I haven't even touched my Dell since I bought this. Didn't even bring it with me when I left to travel. Wankers shouldn't be reviewing things.
I just bought one, after lusting after them for a year at Costco. It appears that it is quickly replacing my MacBook Pro 13. I concur with everything said here. This is a great value in a great form factor. The only downside for me is the cheap speakers. I minimized the WIndows partition and installed native Linux. I'm getting 10 hours of battery. I just ordered a 1TB NVMe to extend the disk space.
Gram is literally indestructible.This laptop suffer so manny mishandling and abusing by my daughter,it fell so manny times and yet I still didn't find a single scratch,works perfectly.Perfect laptop for your young ones.
Just bought this week a 17" Gram. Got some QoL improvements since this video (thunderbolt 4, bigger battery, etc). The screen is now 16:10 and matte!! My sister also has a 2021 15" Gram and love it too.
What do you think about the keyboard ? Does it sound "cheap" when you use it ? The keyboard feeling is very important to me and I'm hesitating because of that...
I'm glad you're not like other RUclipsrs only focusing on video/photo editing and gaming that gets tiresome after a while. The new Gram 17 has 16:10 screen.
Just ordered this sucker. I started getting cold feet so I'm watching reviews again. Thanks for the realistic review; particularly the parts about software development. I have a dedicated desktop rig for software dev but I needed a mobile machine and my 7 year old sager is...well...7 years old. Definitely not canceling my order!
Great review man. I bought the original version about ~4 years ago. Never understood why it didnt gain more traction among consumers. Whatever their loss. Glad you like it. I think Im gonna upgrade to the new version soon.
Im a big fan of LG because I feel LG products are really consumer centred. I remember I admired some features of products while using them. I dont think LG is very good at boasting about.. The reason why LG is underrated would be that it doesn't spend much on advertisement like Samsung. Product itself, LG is wonderful. So as a consumer, sincerely Im glad that I can get products of better quality at a cheaper price.
Best review ever. I have TWO of these laptops and they are by far best laptops I've ever had. Every other review is like "who needs such big laptop?? And the few people who do need a big laptop need more power." I bought a gen 1 Gram 17 to share with my gf and loved ti so much I bought another gram 17 as soon as gen 2 came out so we could each have one. I would say this is the perfect laptop for 80% of people I know. I suppose about 20% of people I know have more unique requirements requiring either more portability or more power (or they are just fully entrenched in the Apple ecosystem).
LG Gram, Intel Core i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 17 Inch Ultra-Lightweight Laptop, 17Z90P-K.AA78A1 I just ordered one of these today for under £1000 from Costco. That`s £300+ cheaper than anywhere I`ve seen. Thanks for the review. You sure helped me make the choice.
I just bought a used one for a bargain price. It's my most favorite laptop now ... it's bigger, brighter, lighter & powerful. Also back to MS Windows after some 8 years, it's so much cleaner & friendly now.
A fun review, and enthusiastically delivered. Loved the likening of the XPS to a "refrigerator"! You can get screen protectors for the Gram that reduce glare, but I feel that would make the image a little grainy.
I've had my Gram for a couple of months now - they aren't for sale in Australia so had to order it from overseas - and I just love it! I set the Thunderbolt port to charge and bought a Baseus powered expansion hub (Baseus Type-C HUB Adapter AC Multifunctional Charger) so I can load photos from my SD card and charge it (cutting down on desk clutter) from the same device. The screen is superb, and the light weight still takes me by surprise. So many great things about this device. Absolutely no regrets about getting this machine. Linux runs beautifully on it, and is far more responsive than Windows.
Awesome vid! The new LG Gram is getting a LOT of love now but can you were were definitely ahead of the curve. Seems like they've made some more improvements this year. Hope LG can send you a 16" unit to demo cuz that might be the sweet spot for a lot of people.. Awesome job and hope to see you at 1mn subs sooner rather than later..
hey man just wanna say i enjoy your channel, keep the content coming i chanced upon your channel while looking for reviews on lg gram 17 and i just got the 2020 model. super cool and great. its everything it turned out to be just like u recommended. thumbs up
Loved the direct comparison with the XPS. This is the choice I've been agonising over for weeks and have decided...... maxed out 2021 LG Gram 16". Life Is Good :)
Great review. I'm also surprised how well LG executed this laptop. I'm using Linux Fedora on this for software development and media consumption. Never had a better experience in a laptop. If they fix the glossy screen with next edition - I'm all in. Big guys like Dell, Lenovo and Apple should learn from LG.
Thanks, and definitely! And in the meantime buy yourself an anti-glare screen protector if you haven't already (I posted one in the description), it totally fixes the glare issue. (though of course would be better not to need one in the first place)
Hi! thanks for the video. I am in a big dilema now. I'm waiting for the new Dell XPS 17 laptop to be launched, but I feel this is going to cost more than 4k. I will use the laptop. for development in WordPress, and maybe some light video edition in Adobe Premiere. The rest will be internet browsing and productivity tasks, videocalls, etc. Do you think is worth to wait for the XPS 17? Or this laptop can make it? I just discovered thanks to you (so you are right in your video), and literally fall in love (of the laptop). Another quick question, can the laptop be charged with USB-C? and connected to 2 external screens at the same time? Thanks!
minute 1:10 😂😅😂🤣 Love LG from home appliances to smartphones, laptops, etc Don't wonder why most luxurious hospitality in Indonesia including in Bali are equipped by LG (aside by Bang & Olufsen). Aside having one of their biggest manufacturing plants in the world here in Indonesia #LG_Indonesia #LGIndonesia #LG_ID #LGID #LG
Yes Dell's screen is definitely more vibrant and vivid, and has very little glare (unlike the LG Gram). I just prefer the larger size of the LG's screen at 17" 16:10
Hey, a few months late to the party, but I'm interested in picking on of these up. Are you still using yours full time over other laptops like your Dell? I'm trying to find the newer 14" with the 16:10 aspect ration screen that just came out, but these things aren't easy to find. Most honest review I've watched so far. I am coming from a Macbook but I just really want to get back to a PC laptop... I NEED my 32bit support (thanks Apple for cutting that), actual ports, and just to be able to run Linux natively on the laptop.
Yup still using mine, and still loving it. It's the only laptop I've been using, especially since I'm constantly moving around and it's so lightweight.
I just bought the 16 inch with win 11 installed. I love this laptop but there is only one little itsy bitsy thing that bothers me. The battery charge light stays on even when the battery is fully charged soooo if you want to know if the battery is fully charged you have to turn on the laptop. I got this info from LG tech service when I asked them about this. With all the other laptops I have owned red meant charging white meant charged. Any thoughts on this? Not the end of the world of course.
@@vassiliz3418 this one (link also in description) www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081T3KQ4J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&tag=jsb0c89-20&th=1 With the application, just be super careful and make sure you get it right the first time b/c otherwise you'll get air bubbles. I messed up the first application so ended up buying another, but no air bubbles and no issues since I put it on. Glad you found it helpful!
The most affordable, most light, capable 17 a good backup… I’m also coming to this conclusion… I need a replacement asap and this is the only 17 with these specs at this price… though I missed the 1200 price point…. I think a decent all rounder
just bought one today, my only worry is the 2k display will not be too small when plugged in to an external monitor, wish to use this as a second screen but dont want text to appear super small... had this issue when i bought a dell xps 4k in the past and returned it, fingers crossed will see when it arrives
I highly recommend buying an anti-glare screen protector as it basically fixes the glare problem, makes the screen fingerprint and dust resistant, and I find that it also makes the screen more pleasant to look at. I got one for $17 off Amazon for my 17 inch screen www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081T3KQ4J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=jsb0c89-20 It only comes with one though, so make sure you install it perfectly (ie. fitting the screen just right, no air bubbles) because if you screw up, then taking it off and reapplying won't work because you'll get too many air bubbles (I learned this the hard way and had to buy another one). I just bought the first screen protector I saw off Amazon with decent reviews though, let me know if there are better alternatives.
@@mwangiplus- yup I def recommend it, the screen protector works great! Only reason not to buy it would be if you just seriously needed better performance, which most don't
Thanks for this review! Surprised me that even the XPS trying to save on space (so no legacy slots sadly) has a full SD card slot. Probably the only minus in addition to the very glossy screen. Do you have any ideas how I might reduce the glare of the Gram 17?
Bro very cool review feel realistic and honest will you recommend it to me I'm no gamer I will use it for media consumption heavy real heavy web browsing and some 4k editing videos also will the machine lag or get hot when streaming say a 4k movie while checking some social media sites..
It can definitely handle streaming 4k videos while checking social media sites no problem. I haven't done much video editing on this laptop yet (my SD card adapter arrives tomorrow at which point I will switch to this laptop for editing) so I won't comment on 4k video editing, but at least for 1080p 60fps stuff (what I film in now), it seemed fine from the little I've done (and remember worst case you can always use proxies, 4k editing on my Dell XPS 15 isn't exactly buttery smooth). I'll keep you posted though once I get more data. And thanks!
@@JDiculous1 oh thanks you for sharing your experience with the gram and I'm waiting for your feedback after the 4k editing also if I'm not bothering you what about the build quality and the hinges lots of the so called premium laptops break so easily nowadays
Hello there man, thanks for your review,enjoyed. As I don't know much about LG gram range would like to ask few things, why did you choose LG Gram 17 and not for example LG Gram 15 which would be closer to your XPS 15 ? how is the real battery life on it, you mention 10+ hours, is it on real usage, meaning I am a programmer, sound, video editor.so need a portable device, that can handle tasks. not extremelly loads but code come in or I develop and test daily + audio, video edits. that typical day and work load. So i need to go through day without a charger because I move and enjoy flexibility. Does this device can do it ? regarding heating/cooling system it has one fan, how is it, is it really without any problem or it gets noisy ? thanks Luke
1. I prefer larger screens 2. Battery life is good. I haven't actually timed it though. For heavy usage I would guess maybe 5 hours? Super rough guess though so prob better to consult other sources 3. Never gets noisy at all (unlike Dell). One of my favorite things about it. My biggest annoyance is the screen glare, but that can probably be fixed with a screen glare protector.
@@JDiculous1 hello there, thanks for your update, actually i have one more question, how is it regarding the charger that you are using ? i needed to buy type c charger which gives disappointing 2.45 hours charging time. do you have a solution to it meaning what is your charger ? regarding the battery, it is good but could be far better, lg claiming 18 hours, i checked that with them when using wifi, microsoft office work and roughly 8-10 chrome windows it clocks out around 8/9 hours. it is not bad, but still don't get how people here can say some 12-14 hours of usage. note i have power saver, and brightness to only about 40/50% set up
@@JDiculous1 fair enough if you stay at home, but if you are flexible and moving around than you will measure it, pin charger is 3,15 hours, type C 2,40 hours if it is switched off.
I totally agree with you. I have it and I just think it is perfect (except for the speakers). I don't mind about sd card, I always but microSD cards with adaptors. They are at the same price and have same speeds. Makes no sense to buy an SD, for me. One last thing: YOU CAN TAKE AWAY THE PLASTIC PROTECTOR AT THE BOTTOM, It is totally fine. :-D
Hi, if you could pud dell xps 15 on top of it for size comparison that would be very very helpfull. I wonder if it is biger then traditional 15.6 inch laptop. Xps 15 is as big as traditional 14 inch laptop and thats what i'm using now
@@JDiculous1 I'm just curious of the diference in real world. 2020 gram 17 is around 4/5 milimeters wider then avaridge 15.6 laptop (thats sounds like nothing but would be interesting to see visualy when comparing) and older xps 15 (with 16/9 ratio) is way smaller, but more dense than that. Just wondering if it would be a good replacement. Diference while traveling (compared to 15.6) and diference in something bit more demanding then warcraft 3. Maybe photoshop, lightroom and few hours of borderlands 2 here and there 😅
Not sure if you'll see this. But would you still reccomend it? I'd be going for the newer 2021 model. Can't decide between this or the M1 MacBook Air...
I'd still recommend it, but I haven't looked into the M1, nor have I looked into laptops since I bought this one to be honest. May be looking for a new laptop soon though so will update you guys if I get any new information
@@ryancyt I bought this one over 2 years ago. I still like the laptop, but it could be a little bit faster. When I'm doing software dev on the Ubuntu VM with Docker, it's usable but not the most performant. Adobe Premiere not the fastest either, though again usable. I will look into the latest LG Gram 17 to see if it's enough of a performance boost, while also looking at competition. Also a couple days ago one of the keys on my keyboard fell off, and when trying to put it back on one of the pieces broke. All I need is a simple plastic piece, but none of the repair shops here in Rome have this piece. Ordered one online from some shady looking website, but there's a chance it might not work. Since I work, I can't afford to just ship off my laptop, so maybe not a bad idea to have a backup laptop anyways.
This week, I got my LG Gram 17 with the 16GB RAM and a 512GB SSD. First impressions: 1. It's light for a 17" laptop, but not crazy light. It's still a laptop. 2. The build quality is good. Reviewers show how flexible it is, but I don't think you'd notice it unless you look for it. The only thing I'd say is that the hinge is not quite as stiff as I would like. If you tried using it on a train or plane, it might bother you. On a desk it is stable. 3. The screen is glossy. (How I wish it was matt!) I got a screen protector to reduce the reflectivity, but I couldn't get it on without air bubbles (which I hate even more), so for now I'm living with the gloss. But it's fantastic having a 17" screen for productivity (and day trading). And it's clear and bright. It's overall a good panel. 4. Keyboard: It's okay, apart from a couple of differences from a standard UK keyboard layout. In particular: the way the "|" key is situated adjoining the Left Shift key; and the horizontal Return key (which means I sometimes hit the "#" key by mistake). But the typing experience is good so far. 5. Okay, so it's not a powerhouse. I bought it knowing that it would be fine for productivity, but not expecting to do anything particularly demanding. 6. It was a bit laggy on first use. I did a clean install of Windows... and now it's running perfectly. 7. The sound is okay. It's fine, if not anything special. So far, I'm happy with my purchase, but these things I would change if I could redesign it for next year: - matt screen (!) - stiffer hinge - slightly better, upward firing speakers - keyboard layout - an Ethernet port would be nice, rather than the Dongle provided... - And a more powerful CPU would be nice. Ideally, a Ryzen CPU with their better integrated graphics would be fab.
I decided to order a 2019 LG 15.6 Gram and will get it on Wednesday. Brand new for $699 on Amazon. It has everything I need so why not. Cheapest LG laptop you can get that is brand new.
16:9 is the shorter aspect ratio - 16:10 is taller. What's with the tinny speakers? If Apple can cram significantly better audio in a space-limited iPad Pro 9.7, LG should be able to work wonders with the space they have in there. The main reason for buying this laptop is that it "won't decimate your sperm count"!
I have heard some good things about the speakers so it is odd that you say they are not good. Do you have teh 2021 model. I think you have the 2020 model, and you don't know much about laptop speakers because some are much better than others, so you just can't say those are just like any other laptop speakers. I am sorry it is obvious you have not done msuch research for this review
If you looked at the upload date you'd see that the video was uploaded January 5th, 2020. I've probably owned 5-7 laptops in my life, this laptop (2019/2020 model) has by far the worst speakers of any laptop I've owned. Much of that is because the speakers are below the laptop (so it sounds better if I turn it upside down). That is just my honest opinion, and in this review there is a speaker test so you can draw your own conclusions. If you were expecting me to go out and analyze the laptop speakers of every other laptop on the market and then tell you where LG ranks, yea sorry I didn't do that, nor did I ever claim to.
"it doesn't decimate my sperm count" - classic - never thought I would hear that on a lap top review video LOL
@Brayden Boone No one cares. Now you know.
This is the only decent review of this thing. The tech head reviewers are all "Ooh, it's no good for 4K video editing", "Ooh, it doesn't have dedicated graphics", "Ooh, the lid flexes when you twist it", "Ooh, it doesn't feel as premium as the Dell XPS". They are, as we say in the UK, a bunch of wankers. There is nothing else like it on the market unless, as you say, you want a refrigerator. Managed to track one down in the UK (for some reason the thing is as rare as hens teeth over here) and I am well pleased. Good job fellah.
Thank you! Yea I haven't even touched my Dell since I bought this. Didn't even bring it with me when I left to travel. Wankers shouldn't be reviewing things.
Saw one in JB hi-fi screen is amazing and laptop is rediculously light
You can buy an eGPU to go with it and that actually turns the Gram into a pretty powerful editing machine. As for the flexing, that’s small potatoes.
I just bought one, after lusting after them for a year at Costco. It appears that it is quickly replacing my MacBook Pro 13. I concur with everything said here. This is a great value in a great form factor. The only downside for me is the cheap speakers. I minimized the WIndows partition and installed native Linux. I'm getting 10 hours of battery. I just ordered a 1TB NVMe to extend the disk space.
I also recommend getting a glare protector / blue light filter if you're outdoors a lot!
Gram is literally indestructible.This laptop suffer so manny mishandling and abusing by my daughter,it fell so manny times and yet I still didn't find a single scratch,works perfectly.Perfect laptop for your young ones.
Just bought this week a 17" Gram. Got some QoL improvements since this video (thunderbolt 4, bigger battery, etc). The screen is now 16:10 and matte!! My sister also has a 2021 15" Gram and love it too.
What do you think about the keyboard ? Does it sound "cheap" when you use it ? The keyboard feeling is very important to me and I'm hesitating because of that...
@@SrhLglt feels solid to me. The pressure It flex if you want it too, but the pressure I put on the laptop while normally typing does nothing to it
I'm glad you're not like other RUclipsrs only focusing on video/photo editing and gaming that gets tiresome after a while. The new Gram 17 has 16:10 screen.
This is the best laptop review I have ever seen! Pure joy!
your accent is so good, and your comments are pretty practical, LG should sponsor you.
Btw it’s $999 at Costco now.
I'd kill for a LG sponsorship. Glad you like my accent haha
Wait, I just checked it says 1499 at costco, how did you get $500 off?? Black friday deal?
Just ordered this sucker. I started getting cold feet so I'm watching reviews again. Thanks for the realistic review; particularly the parts about software development. I have a dedicated desktop rig for software dev but I needed a mobile machine and my 7 year old sager is...well...7 years old. Definitely not canceling my order!
I think you'll love it! Only laptop I use these days
How is the battery life?
Great review man. I bought the original version about ~4 years ago. Never understood why it didnt gain more traction among consumers. Whatever their loss. Glad you like it. I think Im gonna upgrade to the new version soon.
Yea it's so underrated!
Im a big fan of LG because I feel LG products are really consumer centred. I remember I admired some features of products while using them. I dont think LG is very good at boasting about.. The reason why LG is underrated would be that it doesn't spend much on advertisement like Samsung. Product itself, LG is wonderful. So as a consumer, sincerely Im glad that I can get products of better quality at a cheaper price.
That's because LG hardly ads their laptops
Best review ever. I have TWO of these laptops and they are by far best laptops I've ever had. Every other review is like "who needs such big laptop?? And the few people who do need a big laptop need more power." I bought a gen 1 Gram 17 to share with my gf and loved ti so much I bought another gram 17 as soon as gen 2 came out so we could each have one. I would say this is the perfect laptop for 80% of people I know. I suppose about 20% of people I know have more unique requirements requiring either more portability or more power (or they are just fully entrenched in the Apple ecosystem).
@Jason Eisenberg So... your girlfriend stole your laptop, therefore you needed to get one for yourself? (I hope you got to use the new one)...
LG Gram, Intel Core i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 17 Inch Ultra-Lightweight Laptop, 17Z90P-K.AA78A1 I just ordered one of these today for under £1000 from Costco. That`s £300+ cheaper than anywhere I`ve seen. Thanks for the review. You sure helped me make the choice.
Solid deal, congrats on your purchase!
I have this. Its the best laptop for working from home.
I just bought a used one for a bargain price. It's my most favorite laptop now ... it's bigger, brighter, lighter & powerful. Also back to MS Windows after some 8 years, it's so much cleaner & friendly now.
I also bought the new 16 in one for my wife & she's happy with it too. Super light & fast.
Great Video! This was very real and genuine, you've earned my like for this one lol
A fun review, and enthusiastically delivered. Loved the likening of the XPS to a "refrigerator"! You can get screen protectors for the Gram that reduce glare, but I feel that would make the image a little grainy.
I've had my Gram for a couple of months now - they aren't for sale in Australia so had to order it from overseas - and I just love it! I set the Thunderbolt port to charge and bought a Baseus powered expansion hub (Baseus Type-C HUB Adapter AC Multifunctional Charger) so I can load photos from my SD card and charge it (cutting down on desk clutter) from the same device. The screen is superb, and the light weight still takes me by surprise. So many great things about this device. Absolutely no regrets about getting this machine. Linux runs beautifully on it, and is far more responsive than Windows.
Thank you for the web cam review, too. I was looking for that.
Awesome vid! The new LG Gram is getting a LOT of love now but can you were were definitely ahead of the curve. Seems like they've made some more improvements this year. Hope LG can send you a 16" unit to demo cuz that might be the sweet spot for a lot of people.. Awesome job and hope to see you at 1mn subs sooner rather than later..
Thanks Alexander! Happy to help in any small way I can, and yea still waiting for that LG sponsorship :)
hey man just wanna say i enjoy your channel, keep the content coming
i chanced upon your channel while looking for reviews on lg gram 17 and i just got the 2020 model. super cool and great. its everything it turned out to be just like u recommended. thumbs up
Glad you liked it! And thank you 😎
Loved the direct comparison with the XPS. This is the choice I've been agonising over for weeks and have decided...... maxed out 2021 LG Gram 16". Life Is Good :)
Good choice! Life is good indeed.
This was an excellent and genuine review, thank you!
thank you!
Great review. I'm also surprised how well LG executed this laptop. I'm using Linux Fedora on this for software development and media consumption. Never had a better experience in a laptop. If they fix the glossy screen with next edition - I'm all in. Big guys like Dell, Lenovo and Apple should learn from LG.
Thanks, and definitely! And in the meantime buy yourself an anti-glare screen protector if you haven't already (I posted one in the description), it totally fixes the glare issue. (though of course would be better not to need one in the first place)
@@JDiculous1 would you recommend this over macs with m1? I'm going to studying CS and was wondering if I should jump boat to a Mac. thanks
Thank you for the review, Jeremy. The battery hours and light weight are very impressive.
Glad you found it helpful!
Great video! Thanks for helping the rest of us out.
Awesome review! Thanks!
anytime!
Hi! thanks for the video. I am in a big dilema now. I'm waiting for the new Dell XPS 17 laptop to be launched, but I feel this is going to cost more than 4k. I will use the laptop. for development in WordPress, and maybe some light video edition in Adobe Premiere. The rest will be internet browsing and productivity tasks, videocalls, etc.
Do you think is worth to wait for the XPS 17? Or this laptop can make it? I just discovered thanks to you (so you are right in your video), and literally fall in love (of the laptop).
Another quick question, can the laptop be charged with USB-C? and connected to 2 external screens at the same time?
Thanks!
I wanted this one but they don’t have touchscreen. I had to get the 15 inch.
Take care! :D Just ordered one, there is no alternative in the market for this use case.
awesome. yea we need more laptops like this
minute 1:10 😂😅😂🤣
Love LG from home appliances to smartphones, laptops, etc Don't wonder why most luxurious hospitality in Indonesia including in Bali are equipped by LG (aside by Bang & Olufsen).
Aside having one of their biggest manufacturing plants in the world here in Indonesia #LG_Indonesia #LGIndonesia #LG_ID #LGID #LG
I have this laptop...LOVE it!
Is lg gram better than XPS. How was ur experience with XPS. Do u still recommend it??
Hello! Wondering how the screen compares to the XPS 15. I think Dell’s screen is more vibrant and vivid?
Yes Dell's screen is definitely more vibrant and vivid, and has very little glare (unlike the LG Gram). I just prefer the larger size of the LG's screen at 17" 16:10
Hey, a few months late to the party, but I'm interested in picking on of these up. Are you still using yours full time over other laptops like your Dell? I'm trying to find the newer 14" with the 16:10 aspect ration screen that just came out, but these things aren't easy to find. Most honest review I've watched so far. I am coming from a Macbook but I just really want to get back to a PC laptop... I NEED my 32bit support (thanks Apple for cutting that), actual ports, and just to be able to run Linux natively on the laptop.
Yup still using mine, and still loving it. It's the only laptop I've been using, especially since I'm constantly moving around and it's so lightweight.
@@JDiculous1 Awesome to hear, looking forward to getting mine, thanks.
I just bought the 16 inch with win 11 installed. I love this laptop but there is only one little itsy bitsy thing that bothers me. The battery charge light stays on even when the battery is fully charged soooo if you want to know if the battery is fully charged you have to turn on the laptop. I got this info from LG tech service when I asked them about this. With all the other laptops I have owned red meant charging white meant charged. Any thoughts on this? Not the end of the world of course.
That's a good point. Hopefully they can add this feature in a firmware update or the next upgrade.
they shifted the keyboard on 2020 version
Is it true that the screen panel of the LG Gram 17 a bit flimsy and easily bendable?
If your biggest issue with the laptop is glare, why not get an anti-glare screen protector film. Available for ~20$, turning your gloss into matte
Yea I eventually did and it completely solved the problem
@@JDiculous1 Which one did you eventually get and how was application of it? Thanks for the vid
@@vassiliz3418 this one (link also in description) www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081T3KQ4J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&tag=jsb0c89-20&th=1 With the application, just be super careful and make sure you get it right the first time b/c otherwise you'll get air bubbles. I messed up the first application so ended up buying another, but no air bubbles and no issues since I put it on.
Glad you found it helpful!
The most affordable, most light, capable 17 a good backup… I’m also coming to this conclusion… I need a replacement asap and this is the only 17 with these specs at this price… though I missed the 1200 price point…. I think a decent all rounder
thumbs up for the aoe2 shout out!
one of the greatest games of all time
just bought one today, my only worry is the 2k display will not be too small when plugged in to an external monitor, wish to use this as a second screen but dont want text to appear super small... had this issue when i bought a dell xps 4k in the past and returned it, fingers crossed will see when it arrives
good looks. im looking for a new girlfriend too... i mean laptop
she's a keeper ;)
🤣😁
great video my friend
I highly recommend buying an anti-glare screen protector as it basically fixes the glare problem, makes the screen fingerprint and dust resistant, and I find that it also makes the screen more pleasant to look at. I got one for $17 off Amazon for my 17 inch screen www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081T3KQ4J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=jsb0c89-20 It only comes with one though, so make sure you install it perfectly (ie. fitting the screen just right, no air bubbles) because if you screw up, then taking it off and reapplying won't work because you'll get too many air bubbles (I learned this the hard way and had to buy another one). I just bought the first screen protector I saw off Amazon with decent reviews though, let me know if there are better alternatives.
thanks for the link.the reason why i would not have bought this laptop is the glare.i might now by it
@@mwangiplus- yup I def recommend it, the screen protector works great! Only reason not to buy it would be if you just seriously needed better performance, which most don't
Are there any matte screen films I can install on the screen?
Can't wait too install Ableton in this bad boy!!
Thanks for this review! Surprised me that even the XPS trying to save on space (so no legacy slots sadly) has a full SD card slot. Probably the only minus in addition to the very glossy screen. Do you have any ideas how I might reduce the glare of the Gram 17?
You could try using some kind of glare protector cover. I've never used one before though so can't comment on effectiveness
Matte screen protector are there
Pretty sad there is no option for virtualization so that you can't install or use vmwares😕😓
Great video
Bro very cool review feel realistic and honest will you recommend it to me I'm no gamer I will use it for media consumption heavy real heavy web browsing and some 4k editing videos also will the machine lag or get hot when streaming say a 4k movie while checking some social media sites..
It can definitely handle streaming 4k videos while checking social media sites no problem. I haven't done much video editing on this laptop yet (my SD card adapter arrives tomorrow at which point I will switch to this laptop for editing) so I won't comment on 4k video editing, but at least for 1080p 60fps stuff (what I film in now), it seemed fine from the little I've done (and remember worst case you can always use proxies, 4k editing on my Dell XPS 15 isn't exactly buttery smooth). I'll keep you posted though once I get more data.
And thanks!
@@JDiculous1 oh thanks you for sharing your experience with the gram and I'm waiting for your feedback after the 4k editing also if I'm not bothering you what about the build quality and the hinges lots of the so called premium laptops break so easily nowadays
@@bestbringit 3 months and no issues, def check it out in person at a store if you can because the laptop is really like no other
@@JDiculous1 we'll do I'm buying it for sure no noise or overheating and 17 inch screen unbelievable achievement
@@bestbringit awesome, you won't be disappointed!
Hello there man, thanks for your review,enjoyed. As I don't know much about LG gram range would like to ask few things, why did you choose LG Gram 17 and not for example LG Gram 15 which would be closer to your XPS 15 ? how is the real battery life on it, you mention 10+ hours, is it on real usage, meaning I am a programmer, sound, video editor.so need a portable device, that can handle tasks. not extremelly loads but code come in or I develop and test daily + audio, video edits. that typical day and work load. So i need to go through day without a charger because I move and enjoy flexibility. Does this device can do it ? regarding heating/cooling system it has one fan, how is it, is it really without any problem or it gets noisy ? thanks Luke
1. I prefer larger screens
2. Battery life is good. I haven't actually timed it though. For heavy usage I would guess maybe 5 hours? Super rough guess though so prob better to consult other sources
3. Never gets noisy at all (unlike Dell). One of my favorite things about it.
My biggest annoyance is the screen glare, but that can probably be fixed with a screen glare protector.
@@JDiculous1 hello there, thanks for your update, actually i have one more question, how is it regarding the charger that you are using ? i needed to buy type c charger which gives disappointing 2.45 hours charging time. do you have a solution to it meaning what is your charger ?
regarding the battery, it is good but could be far better, lg claiming 18 hours, i checked that with them when using wifi, microsoft office work and roughly 8-10 chrome windows it clocks out around 8/9 hours. it is not bad, but still don't get how people here can say some 12-14 hours of usage. note i have power saver, and brightness to only about 40/50% set up
@@traintime4137 Yea battery life is definitely not 18 hours. I just use the default charger, works fine enough for me but I've never timed it
@@JDiculous1 fair enough if you stay at home, but if you are flexible and moving around than you will measure it, pin charger is 3,15 hours, type C 2,40 hours if it is switched off.
I totally agree with you. I have it and I just think it is perfect (except for the speakers). I don't mind about sd card, I always but microSD cards with adaptors. They are at the same price and have same speeds. Makes no sense to buy an SD, for me. One last thing: YOU CAN TAKE AWAY THE PLASTIC PROTECTOR AT THE BOTTOM, It is totally fine. :-D
The screen has a plastic protector on it!?? That will reduce the glare?
@@JDiculous1 In ruclips.net/video/bd2R6mDR0gI/видео.html 2:22 I see you still carry the plastic protection at the rear of the laptop, don't you?
Hi, if you could pud dell xps 15 on top of it for size comparison that would be very very helpfull. I wonder if it is biger then traditional 15.6 inch laptop. Xps 15 is as big as traditional 14 inch laptop and thats what i'm using now
Dell XPS 15 looks way smaller in comparison to LG Gram 17 (but weighs a lot more)
@@JDiculous1 I'm just curious of the diference in real world. 2020 gram 17 is around 4/5 milimeters wider then avaridge 15.6 laptop (thats sounds like nothing but would be interesting to see visualy when comparing) and older xps 15 (with 16/9 ratio) is way smaller, but more dense than that. Just wondering if it would be a good replacement. Diference while traveling (compared to 15.6) and diference in something bit more demanding then warcraft 3. Maybe photoshop, lightroom and few hours of borderlands 2 here and there 😅
How fast does it charge?
Not sure if you'll see this. But would you still reccomend it? I'd be going for the newer 2021 model.
Can't decide between this or the M1 MacBook Air...
I'd still recommend it, but I haven't looked into the M1, nor have I looked into laptops since I bought this one to be honest. May be looking for a new laptop soon though so will update you guys if I get any new information
@@JDiculous1 Thanks for the reply! May I ask why you're thinking of getting a new one?
@@ryancyt I bought this one over 2 years ago. I still like the laptop, but it could be a little bit faster. When I'm doing software dev on the Ubuntu VM with Docker, it's usable but not the most performant. Adobe Premiere not the fastest either, though again usable. I will look into the latest LG Gram 17 to see if it's enough of a performance boost, while also looking at competition.
Also a couple days ago one of the keys on my keyboard fell off, and when trying to put it back on one of the pieces broke. All I need is a simple plastic piece, but none of the repair shops here in Rome have this piece. Ordered one online from some shady looking website, but there's a chance it might not work. Since I work, I can't afford to just ship off my laptop, so maybe not a bad idea to have a backup laptop anyways.
@@JDiculous1 Thank you this was insightful. I think the M1 MBA is the safer bet. Though the price difference is about €300...
Hey, can I plug a second monitor in its usb-c port; does it have display port support in it?
yea there's a USB-C port
@@JDiculous1 thanks,
This week, I got my LG Gram 17 with the 16GB RAM and a 512GB SSD. First impressions:
1. It's light for a 17" laptop, but not crazy light. It's still a laptop.
2. The build quality is good. Reviewers show how flexible it is, but I don't think you'd notice it unless you look for it. The only thing I'd say is that the hinge is not quite as stiff as I would like. If you tried using it on a train or plane, it might bother you. On a desk it is stable.
3. The screen is glossy. (How I wish it was matt!) I got a screen protector to reduce the reflectivity, but I couldn't get it on without air bubbles (which I hate even more), so for now I'm living with the gloss. But it's fantastic having a 17" screen for productivity (and day trading). And it's clear and bright. It's overall a good panel.
4. Keyboard: It's okay, apart from a couple of differences from a standard UK keyboard layout. In particular: the way the "|" key is situated adjoining the Left Shift key; and the horizontal Return key (which means I sometimes hit the "#" key by mistake). But the typing experience is good so far.
5. Okay, so it's not a powerhouse. I bought it knowing that it would be fine for productivity, but not expecting to do anything particularly demanding.
6. It was a bit laggy on first use. I did a clean install of Windows... and now it's running perfectly.
7. The sound is okay. It's fine, if not anything special.
So far, I'm happy with my purchase, but these things I would change if I could redesign it for next year:
- matt screen (!)
- stiffer hinge
- slightly better, upward firing speakers
- keyboard layout
- an Ethernet port would be nice, rather than the Dongle provided...
- And a more powerful CPU would be nice. Ideally, a Ryzen CPU with their better integrated graphics would be fab.
Def agree on the screen and performance! Pretty good summary
I hate matte screens. The colors always look washed out on a matte screen. No thanks. Colors look way more vibrant on a glossy screen for some reason.
@@CityChristina I agree, any laptop recommendations?
I decided to order a 2019 LG 15.6 Gram and will get it on Wednesday. Brand new for $699 on Amazon. It has everything I need so why not. Cheapest LG laptop you can get that is brand new.
U can’t have an Ethernet port on a laptop this thin without adapter
You: How do I look?
Me: You suck!
You: You too.
Me: 😭😭😭
They just released a new generation
im checking in 2yrs later, hows the battery life?
Not that good anymore, doesn't last as long as I'd like. I only charge to 80% though.
Please,price
Wahhh i want
2022 14z90 has very low audio so no good for zoom or movies or RUclips. I’ll be returning it for this reason
just get an external speaker and/or headphones. I use the Earfun Uboom as a bluetooth speaker
look how light it is
You could take the wrapper of the bottom.
bro whats the brightness level in nits ?
in what? no clue
So, is there a headphone Jack to the side? Most good looking laptop doesn't have one.
yea there's a headphone jack
Was the glare ever an issue? That is so far the only reason why I am not buying it.
Nevermind, you started talking about it the minute I posted the comment LOL
Not ideal, but since I'm 99% working indoors it doesn't really affect me and not a deal breaker
Is this the 2020 version?
nope, 2019 I believe. 2020 came out shortly after I made this video
Hwve you tried 4k video editing yet.??
I prob did once but shortly after buying this I stopped filming in 4k for other reasons
Please make the review LG gram 2020 17"
I will if you buy me one :)
Then came the 2020 LG Gram 17
Didn't know they're releasing the next one, nice!
@@JDiculous1 it's already showcased at CES !
These are as low as $899 on Amazon right now.
Alhamdulillah ya Allah
16:9 is the shorter aspect ratio - 16:10 is taller.
What's with the tinny speakers? If Apple can cram significantly better audio in a space-limited iPad Pro 9.7, LG should be able to work wonders with the space they have in there.
The main reason for buying this laptop is that it "won't decimate your sperm count"!
I may have said the aspect ratios backwards, my b.
Yea the speakers are pretty bad, worse than my Samsung smartphone.
"for the best games". Ah, take the like
thanks 😎
wait 3:24 onemount lol
I have heard some good things about the speakers so it is odd that you say they are not good. Do you have teh 2021 model. I think you have the 2020 model, and you don't know much about laptop speakers because some are much better than others, so you just can't say those are just like any other laptop speakers. I am sorry it is obvious you have not done msuch research for this review
If you looked at the upload date you'd see that the video was uploaded January 5th, 2020.
I've probably owned 5-7 laptops in my life, this laptop (2019/2020 model) has by far the worst speakers of any laptop I've owned. Much of that is because the speakers are below the laptop (so it sounds better if I turn it upside down). That is just my honest opinion, and in this review there is a speaker test so you can draw your own conclusions. If you were expecting me to go out and analyze the laptop speakers of every other laptop on the market and then tell you where LG ranks, yea sorry I didn't do that, nor did I ever claim to.
Lmao “decimating my sperm count”
круто!
6:35 WTF
Omg you live in korea :)) your place looks nothing like korean flats 🤣🤤
this video was filmed in the U.S, I'm currently in Europe
@@JDiculous1 ahhh that's why :))
keyboard flexes a lot. too much. too too tooooo much. if not for that i would buy it.
Yea a year or so after I made the video the keys snapped off a couple times which was annoying. Overall still content with it though.
Always a plus not to decimate the sperm count! :D
Don't say crap chuppz
Windows is the best and so the windows laptop
One dislike for calling Fortnite crap.
"whatever crap the kids play these days" was not a serious comment, I've never played it