I realised just how powerful kite's restriction actually is, Kite is someone who hates taking lives, and the restriction of once he draws his weapon he "has to use it" meaning he needs to kill something with it or damage at the very least. This for a average hunter in the Hunter Hunter world does not seem like a strong restriction, but for Kite specifically its probably stronger or just as strong as kurapikas restriction just from the way he views taking lives, as he has always been dedicated to saving them mostly.
Crazy Slots is probably the most efficient ability in the series because of all of the restrictions. It's random, Kite hates the clown, Kite doesn't like killing and Kite can only use a specific attack with each weapon.
Kite (who had just gotten his arm ripped off) deeply impressed Pitou with how well he fought, even to the point of Pitou creating a hatsu simply to relive that experience. When comparing that to how ineffective the combined efforts of Knuckle, Shoot, Morel, Melereon etc were against Youpi (even to the point where Youpi just leaves them lying without killing them because he's so far above them), I'd say Kite is incredibly underrated as a fighter.
And other thing to keep in mind, when kite fought pitou he wasn’t in his 100%. He had fought before i think he had use his weapon 3 times and was using en the whole night to keeping tracking the quimeras, and lost his arms trying to protect gon and killua. So i will say hi hard was in his 50%
Morel in the palace invasion told that he was around 40%, because he didn’t have a proper rest and was fighting and running all the time. Kite was in a similar situation
Youpi literally becomes a whole new being after fighting Knuckle and Morel and develops a new sort of Hatsu while fighting Knuckle. Plus he finds a new respect for Nen when fighting Killua. I'd say that's on the same level as Pitou after fighting Kite. Plus Pitou had just been born and is inherently very curious. So he was very likely to want to continue fighting anyway.
I think HIsoka said something after his fight with Kastro. That it doesn't matter if he knew how his ability works. I think that shows how much versitlity his ability has.
Telling someone your nen ability is a limitation/restriction that increases your the ability a concept gege akitami borrowed into jujutsu kaisen. So every time hisoka explains his nen ability it is for this benefit
@@micahmcfadden8082 no its not, revealing your technique is a universal way to boost it in JJK but its never the case for HxH, yes you can put that condition in the nen ability where you have to explain it but unless you create it to do so it wont, Bungee Gum has no such condition
@@cthpng9437 No. I'm pretty sure Bungee Gum does get stronger whenever Hisoka explains it, even if he doesn't know it. Just look and Shoot vs Yupi. In that battle, Shoot covered his eye just because it felt right, and that increased his battle capabilities significantly. The narrator even credits this as the reason Shoot lasts more than a few seconds. As another example, Gon holding his kamehameha pose isn't actually a restriction of Jajanken. He just kinda does it. Yet Knuckle factors that into his aura calculations, and those calculations prove to be correct. Taking on extra risks increases Nen ability, even if those extra risks aren't done intentionally or ingrained into your abilities specifically.
@@cthpng9437 what the other guy said.. you can put "restrictions" without knowing it. Like i think komugi became so good at the game because for her if she loses its equals death - extremely hard restriction
kastro is the idiot that split all his talent into 2 seperate trees while ignoring his strongest affinity... we really comparing an idiot to a real hunter?
I think the crazy slots might actually give kite something good I could see it wanting to be the strongest clown around and giving kite his first good roll
@@Panda_Roll ...Nen-Questions to ponder (and ask Togashi If you ever meet him): -Bungee Gum introduced the Concept of Alloy-Type Transmutation-Nen... and then never ever expanded on it. So crazy: We know for a fact Transmuters can combine things but this was never explored, including by Liam. Whetever its RUclipsrs or Mangaka, the Expanding cant contradict that Killua is the Exception, not the Rule, so it can definetly not be possible to just decide 'Yeah, i wanna make Thunder but nah, it wont hurt me, im the Exception' -Conjuration's Aura-Cost is Judged how? This is important to know and Togashi should give it a Thought. I can think of 4 Methods and each is more exploitable than the other.
I remember that Kite post dead had a very intriguing conversation with the koala when they both last appeared, I definitely see some huge potential for something coming from it, like Kite being more ant than himself. I wish that Togashi was healthier nowadays :(
One of my biggest questions about the Chimera Ant arc is "how strong is Kite now?" He was already a 23/30 as a human; now, he is not only a Chimera Ant, but Meruem's SISTER, along with the knowledge of his past life, and thus potential to recover most of his mastery of nen in what I imagine will be a short time. Now, he may not actually be anywhere near the strength of a royal guard nor the king himself, since Meruem probably wouldn't have had a twin without Kite's nen ability, so we don't exactly know what kind of DNA went into Kite's new body (other than the girl that Koala killed).
What many people forget about Kite's Nen ability is that while it doesn't make him choose the weapon he wants, it always gives him the weapon he needs for his situation! It is kinda subconscious !
Thank you That’s what the guy missed in his video The weapon roll he gets is suitable for the exact situation he’s in He will definitely have something for hisoka The clown machine kinda off seemingly read the fight and opposing nen before it’s even start
Yeah even though he said it was a bad roll when he got the scythe, how could he have gotten a better roll for that situation? It was practically perfect to take out all of the chimera ants in that radius. I think him complaining about the roll is part of the restriction to make the crazy slots as a being with a personality try harder to always give him the roll he needs in a given situation.
@@onecrunch5308 you only think that because we've only seen him use two of his rolls. You have no idea if he had a stronger option in the bank, but just got a mid tier crowd control ability.
@@HibbyGibbons It sure completed the job with ease, effectively and efficiently. At worst it was a good roll regardless of whatever mystery rolls he has. Maybe not the best roll at his disposal for the situation, but in no way was that a bad roll.
I think it comes down to this: for Kite, nen combat is always a means to an end. He's the type to fight when all other options fail. Hisoka is all about the battle though. And this mindset can sometimes make the difference.
If you think about it, nearly everybody that Hisoka has killed in battle were one-trick ponies. They spend all of their time and energy on one technique (e.g. Kastro and Gotoh). They don't even try to figure out different ways to use their one ability. All Hisoka needs to do to see the ability once and he will find a way to counter it. So, someone who can practice only one attack isn't going to do well against a person who can create 100 attacks on the fly.
... Hisoka doesn't have 100 of attacks... He is actually rly limited with his uses, most of the times hisoka doesn't even uses bunge gum to kill, and all of his enemies were weaklings... Also Kite has sharp weapons which will cut bunge gum, he has good sense with him hunting beats. We even saw how far those coins reached hisoka, if they had 1,5 times power they would actually reach him and I am sure that kite gun has more power. Hisoka often plays around with his enemies and gets himself hurt or in bad situation(he literally died because of it), Kite would not let him play around and would imidietly kill him as his arsenal is focused on one hit kills.
Considering the fact that Kite seemed disapointed every time the "crazy slots" gave him a weapon, we can assume that those are the "limited" weapons, and maybe he knew that there are better and more versatile weapons that the crazy slots refuses to give him.
@@nothanksthough that might be more accurate because kite used the scythe at the times where he is being trapped or he was annoyed by the situation and added to that ging mentioned that one of his skill is only drawn when he needs to be serious
@@siddhantchauhan1975 it might be the start of using the items. he says a phrase to end the use of the item as well. are the phrases the same with the scythe and pistol?
It's definitely reverse psychology. You can't tell me he had a better option in any of the circumstances he was in. He gets a scythe when he's surrounded, a gun when he needs to defend somebody from a distance and a reincarnating mace when his death is inevitable.
Just to clarify, the reason why Kite was unable to us Nen in that one scene where Gon promises to get him back to normal is that Knuckle used Hakoware to take his Nen away. It had nothing to do with Pitou’s Dr. Blythe. Basically, Knuckle used Hakoware to take away Zombie-Kite’s Nen, and then Shoot used Hotel Rafflesia to put him in his birdcage. Not knocking the video or anything, just thought I’d point that out 🤓🤓🤓
Nen-Questions to ponder (and ask Togashi If you ever meet him): -Bungee Gum introduced the Concept of Alloy-Type Transmutation-Nen... and then never ever expanded on it. So crazy: We know for a fact Transmuters can combine things but this was never explored, including by Liam. Whetever its RUclipsrs or Mangaka, the Expanding cant contradict that Killua is the Exception, not the Rule, so it can definetly not be possible to just decide 'Yeah, i wanna make Thunder but nah, it wont hurt me, im the Exception' -Conjuration's Aura-Cost is Judged how? This is important to know and Togashi should give it a Thught. I can think of 4 Methods and each is more exploitable than the other. !??
Yeah, I think I remember that but now it got me thinking... If nen is basically the person's lifeforce, how would a corpse even be able to use nen, since they're, you know, dead?
I think another important piece of data for scaling Kite (however little this actually tells us) is the condition that Pitou was in after fighting an extremely nerfed Kite (he did the entire fight missing an arm and after battling his way to the nest). Pitou had barely a scratch on them, but that's still not nothing. And they seemed to really enjoy fighting Kite. So, there might be a lot more that we don't know about. Lot to unpack in this situation and then consider against how we think Hisoka would fair against a character like Pitou. It's very important to realize that Pitou was possibly significantly weaker at the time, as they had just been birthed. Ultimately my money is still on Hisoka. The guy is a freak. It's hard to bet against anyone who can push Chrollo the way he did, especially after seeing Chrollo take on the two patriarchs of the Zoldyck family AT THE SAME TIME.
Tbf I always feel like Chrollo's fight with the Zoldycks is given way more credit than it's due. They don't know how his ability works so they're being very cautious and trying not to show off, they're also not going full out because there are two of them and they clearly don't need to. Plus Chrollo didn't try to kill them either, he was just stalling for time. Basically it says very little about how they'd fair in an actual fight because neither side was fully going for it. And Zeno says he would probably win 1:1 with the probably being because he doesn't know his nen abilities in full so he can never be 100% sure. But Chrollo's ability is no where near as powerful as it seems, because the powers are all borrowed and not made for him so he can only steal rubbish powers or good ones that he can't use to their full potential.
@@alexjames7144 That's totally fair-especially the point about how literally neither party was actually trying to kill the other. Makes it hard to use as a really reliable data point. I'd still say that, regardless of your views on the Chrollo v. Zoldyck fight, we can safely say Hisoka is a freak without considering that fight :)
@@alexjames7144 Agreed the fight with the zoldyks was of a tactical nature they were playing it safe trying to understand their opponents abilities. They only went for the kill when they had "certainty" they had him trapped. I doubt it would be anneasy fight if either Zoldyck waa going all out. I still think 1v1 Chrollo would come out on top but by no means would it be an wasy fight. If it was an assassination rather than a straight fight that would be a whole other story.
@@cantingmoss0627 Oh I agree Hisoka is a force of nature, I just think the fandom massively overestimates Chrollo. His fanboys don't like it when you say that though 😬
I thought crazy slots worked by giving Kite the weapon that was actually best for that particular situation. Like the scythe helped clear multiple enemies at once, the gun was perfect for killing the small chimera ants and the staff was needed for him to resurrect.
It’s what the clown think is best for the situation the point where at time it may test kite but since it’s his men at the end of the day I think it something that allows him to step up to the challenge like the lower number are stronger than the higher number. But this is all speculation.
One thing I noticed about kite's crazy slots is it seems not as random as it seems. Every time he uses it gives the best weapon for whatever situation he's in. In the forest surrounded by enemies is perfect for the scythe, and the gun is useful in most situations especially if the enemies aren't grouped together and even if they are, the gun came out most often. And of course against pitou, the magic wand which saved his life in whatever mysterious way it does. If it was just random , and a different weapon came out, then he'd probably definitely just be Dead dead instead of dead alive or reincarnated or whatever.
So I think whatever weapon comes out would be the best weapon to defeat hispka, and he certainly is skilled enough to use it right so kite would have a good chance to win. But I haven't seen enough of kite fighting and everything I know hisoka has done, I would bet on hisoka
Crazy slots said too kite himself every roll is not bad draw. You is spot on what said bro crazy sloth roll number depending on the situation and the condition might be in. Mace weapon kite draw against Pitou for sure save his life.
@@tatsukagemaroukite rolls from the crazy sloth depend on what situation he is in. And crazy slots stated their is no bad roll even though kite would say bad draw. Maybe the higher number in crazy sloth from the roll kite is looking for. But think Togashi would shoe that later. Hisoka like fight and break down flaw of someome hastu ability.
Something unaccounted for: Kite was tought by Ging. You know, the guy that saw Leorio's nen ability once - ONCE - and proceeded to not only perfectly copy it, but improve upon it. Another key point is what Ging told Gon about Kite's Crazy Slots, which was something like 'Kite has a number he only gets when he's in a bad spot, and it makes him really hard to kill' (haven't read in a while so not gonna even attempt to quote him verbatim). I just want to reiterate that Kite was taught by someone who, after only witnessing a few panels of him actually using nen (the few combat scenes as well as the nen control game he plays with his new crewmates), completely changed every reader's perspective - at least those who pay attention - on how nen works. There's a fairly consistent pattern of compliments correlating to ability in HxH, and Ging has consistently been portrayed as one of the - if not the most - well known and respected nen users. If a guy like that dishes out complimentary statements towards someone, there's probably a bit more going on there than we readers know. Also, who's to say Kite doesn't have a direct counter to Hisoka's bungee gum in his Crazy Slots' numbers?
on another note, i dont think Ging is the type to teach someone who doesnt interest him in some way, kite is probably the only "student" Ging took on. So he probably saw a ton of potential in him, and helped him bring it out
I’d go with kite. Most people are simply caught off guard with what hisoka is planning. Not to discredit his abilities because he is super creative. “In” also can sense nen, flashing in instead of gyo would give him a good idea of what hisoka is doing. Either way it’s a good fight tho. Also he does still have other slots, I’d imagine the scythe was brought out for for large numbers. Carbine for multiple little targets, the little mace to avoid death. He is likely getting that piercing rifle at the start until the situation changes.
Kite low-diffs no question, Hisoka would be incapacitated with Schwiiiiing at the mere sight of Crazy Slots, literally everything he loves rolled into one clown-shaped package
This would definitely be one of the most interesting fights in the series if it ever happened - polar opposite personalities (Kite is overly cautious of everything and Hisoka gets more excited the stronger the threat), and polar opposite nen abiities (Kite with supposedly no control over what weapon he'll get, while Hisoka is always in the driver's seat when it comes to his Bungee Gum and Texture Suprise abilities, having ridiculous control of them).
I think it would be a fairly RNG based fight and depend on what rolls he gets, if he's given a chance to reroll, and what his other weapons ended up being, in response to the part about each of the slots being fairly standard, straightforward weapons, the staff he gets when fighting pitou seems to indicate otherwise since it seemed to imply it transferred his soul to a nearby body, which is a unique ability
Part of the nature of combat as explained by Bisky is that there is always the possiblility that a weaker opponent in an advantagous situation may be able to overcome a stronger opponent. But the based on what we know, Hisoka has the advantage most of the time. So maybe Kite has the perfect answer somewhere (like a flamethrower that dissolves gum-like aura), it seems to be that he cant just reroll over and over in fast-pace combat hoping to land something specific. Liam is spot-on with this
Yeah, I’ve always assumed part of the restriction of crazy slot is that it chooses for Kite. Based on Ging’s comments on it, there is a mechanism for the correct tool to be chosen, it’s just out of Kite’s hands.
I wish Kite wasn't killed so early I want to see his other weapons. Silent waltz was cool but surely Kite has equally powerful weapons. If so what are they and how do they work?
beaten? maybe but destroyed is crazy considering he was giving pitou a run for her money with a missing arm+ he had been fighting all night before pitou@@jvr6809
Kites ability is always been so intriguing. We understand it at a nase level butnthere could potentially be so many hidden factors to it. That can bring it from good nen ability to phenomenal nen ability.
I think the “setup” is just as important. If Kite is chasing Hisoka (phantom troupe stole from his friends, given the assignment by association, seeking revenge after Gon got killed by hisoka) vs Hisoka chasing after Kite (or by extension Ging) the initial contact may be completely different. As you say, Kite is a more “natural” Hunter that does his research and studied his prey. He seems more calculating in his approach and with preparation may hold an advantage. Also on initial contact, he may make the choice to flee and fight at a more advantageous arena. The best circumstances for Hisoka are for him to target Kite in order to find Ging. He’s already in the fighting mindset going into it while Kite is reacting more predictably whilst fleeing. Kite: “This trap should allow me a moments rest” Hisoka: “mmm yes I would agree… if it was your normal prey!” Just tossing them into a ring and fighting for fights sake makes this whole scenario play out extremely in Hisoka’s favor. Adding some build up and set up to the confrontation may narrow that gap or possibly towards kite’s favor. Though I think Hisoka’s ingenuity may rebalance things yet again, there’s a good chance that Kite can see through the chaotic clown’s versatile vigor.
I agree. If Kite is hunting Hisoka, Kite would have done a similar way as how Gon stalked Hisoka, or better because of his experience. Since Hisoka didn't even notice Gon, I doubt that he will notice Kite as well. With this, when Kite rolls for his weapon, the clown may give him one shot type of weapon such as the gun (assuming that the clown actually gives the best roll for the situation). Kite could fatally wound Hisoka and ultimately making him the winner. However, if it was just a straight up fight like in the arena, Hisoka would probably win.
It’s almost guaranteed due to the nature of crazy slots that if kite felt he was in danger, he would summon the wand so that he could be revived so I think given that hisoka would always win but kite would be immortal.
Even if that were the case, fighting against Kite would likely get Hisoka as aroused if not more as when he fought Chrollo. So he would also most likely pull another "O My Rubber Nen", and then we'd have a postmortem Nen battle between genderswap albino man and battle clown.
The wand seems to find a way for Kite to survive, not necessarily by reviving him. Basically, Kite starts losing, he realizes this and the wand causes an unlikely series of events that results in Kite getting away.
@@thermophile1695 i can go with that. Either way i dont see kite winning or hisoka losing. Eventually they would just start dating, especially if kite genderswapped and was an ant. That seems way up hisokas alley for some reason
Hi Liam, love the videos. Jus wanted to know if you ever thought about expanding into other anime or revisiting ones you’ve talked about before like JJK or JoJo?
"I'm a bit sad about your points against Kite :/ Kite is intelligent and understands that some/most of his abilities are straightforward. If you recognize this, you have two options: either be thoughtless like Gon and lack a plan B, or develop at least one truly adaptable ability. Bungee Gum offers less versatility than a Crazy Slot with nine abilities, which can be straightforward yet still adaptable. For instance, a scythe can not only slice but also pierce, block, and counter, and its handle can be utilized for quick strikes. A Katana is more than just a large knife, yet you would never label it as straightforward. To be honest, I believe the fight would be exceptionally close, and solely based on my analysis, I'd say Kite has a "good chance," but it won't be easy (maybe 60:40?). Hisoka's primary strength lies in his innovative strategies and the sheer panic he induces in his opponents, causing them to make poor decisions or catch them unprepared. Conversely, Kite is an exceedingly cautious Hunter with a composed mindset. But truth be told: Hisoka would emerge victorious 100% due to Plot Armor
i am not watching this yet since i'm on vacation and i want to sit down with the video, but i have been WAITING of a kite power video. I think he's so underrated
Nen-Questions to ponder (and ask Togashi If you ever meet him): -Bungee Gum introduced the Concept of Alloy-Type Transmutation-Nen... and then never ever expanded on it. So crazy: We know for a fact Transmuters can combine things but this was never explored, including by Liam. Whetever its RUclipsrs or Mangaka, the Expanding cant contradict that Killua is the Exception, not the Rule, so it can definetly not be possible t just decvide 'Yeah, i wanna make Thunder but nah, it wont hurt me, im the Exception' -Conjuration's Aura-Cost is Judged how? This is important to know and Togashi should give it a Thught. I can think of 4 Methods and each is more exploitable than the other. !
Not only we dont know all the crazy slots weapons we also dont know if it has any extra abilities. I think it might be something connected to slots. For example if you roll the same weapon 3 times in a row it gets stronger or it gets an additional effect. Maybe something like Hakari fron Jujutsu Kaisen. If kite has some hidden ability like that he acually gets stronger the longer he fights and it fills any weaknesses he might have. If Im not mistaken it was stated that Ging helped Kite develop his ability and we know he is the GOAT.
Always love the “work talk”. I just like to listen to it. And this is straight forward work talk. Analysis, interpretation, thought, and care were put into this. Appreciate it. And I just flat out agree. Don’t know a lot about HxH but this sounds good. Hisoka victory.
The fact Chrollo was able to catch Hisoka off guard with regular people who aren't enhanced and Kite fought against Pitou and seemingly did damage though minimal but he was handicapped and was Gings pupil who has multiple weapons for versatility strength comparable to wild beasts at the least Hisoka pre PMN boost loses but current Hisoka looking like a big problem for the verse
One thing I notice you did miss is that Kites Crazy slots has specific slots for times that he doesn’t want to die so that with that it’s safe to say he has weapons that are built more for 1 v 1 combat like whatever that clover wand thing does. I would say a lot of Hisokas tricks can be avoid if you are as knowledgeable as Kite is so I think there’s a bit more to consider
I think the way Crazy Slots works, is rather than RNG it assigns him a weapon best suited to his situation based on available information - with the methodology being either subconscious or not his own. Which would explain how he drew convenient weapons to fodderize fodder, and drew effectively a phoenix down for Neferpitou - while it looks random the implementation of the hatsu seems to be somewhat optimized So ultimately Hisoka getting one tapped could be pretty viable
If a guy like Feitan was caught in a pinch against a Squadron leader, then Hisoka will also have difficulty against them. Meanwhile, Kite held off Pitou long enough for Gon and Killua to escape.
I think another thing missed is that Kite seemingly gets the right tool for the job when he rolls. Though he doesn’t know what it is, it’s always a viable tool. Resurrection Theory and all that.
@@louayker4249it too quick too assume we have to know since kite is reborn as an ant. Is he still be able to use his hastu ability crazy sloth when he was once a human.
All I'm saying is that Kite in their new body gives Eatdatnen445 the perfect excuses to commit all of the depraved thoughts which he might have... "Officer; she may be 14 physically while I'm 23, however, I assure you that that girl is in fact a middle aged man mentally"
I think an interesting concept for Crazy Slots would be a simple but extremely powerful and versatile ability that comes with the elusive "good roll," or in other words the jackpot of the crazy slots ability. I think Kite is clever enough and has enough aura to make a single roll of crazy slots a powerful ability with it's only restriction being how rare unlikely it is to roll it.
I think the "PvP and Pve" is a good comparison and shows why Hisoka would win the fight most of the time and only Kites calm nature might prevail and win only if Hisoka allows it by almost being a one second mistake so to speak otherwise he beats kite.
The thing everybody is forgetting is that kite impressed pitou with just one arm. You would have to pit hisoka against Pitou in the same condition and have hisoka do as well to make that comparison.
@@BennLuvsYou24 he is, yes. But in hxh you can’t just say: oh this character is this strong! That’s because a weak character could be a strong character. It’s so specific with the abilities
Nen-Questions to ponder (and ask Togashi If you ever meet him): -Bungee Gum introduced the Concept of Alloy-Type Transmutation-Nen... and then never ever expanded on it. So crazy: We know for a fact Transmuters can combine things but this was never explored, including by Liam. Whetever its RUclipsrs or Mangaka, the Expanding cant contradict that Killua is the Exception, not the Rule, so it can definetly not be possible to just decide 'Yeah, i wanna make Thunder but nah, it wont hurt me, im the Exception' -Conjuration's Aura-Cost is Judged how? This is important to know and Togashi should give it a Thought. I can think of 4 Methods and each is more exploitable than the other. Feelings aka Individual Subjectivity, Economy, Weight, and Atomic-Complexity.
"kite would win if he finishes the fight in an instant' i agree with this statement.. kite's power definitely is a killer, but its a straightforward one.. the longer the fight goes on, the lower his chances of winning
Good video but im oretty sure kite would beat hisoka for many reasons: his crazy slots are always suitable for the situation, he has unknown abilities that may be even better than shown and for this hes above a nen master stated by killua, keeping his en up to 40 metres for a long and time, add a chopped arm before fighting pitou and then giving her an intense fight kite was at 50% during it at best so imagining him at 100% hisoka stands little chance.
I still think Kite takes this with difficulty. Hisoka is often reckless, and allows damage to himself because of his confidence in Bungee Gum, which, to be fair, is not exactly misplaced. But I think it's entirely possible, even probably, that Hisoka gets caught by multiple Crazy Slots options, potentially even by overthinking, although, since Hisoka's ability is also simple yet flexible, he might figure that out somewhat quickly. I get what you are saying regarding working with what we actually know, however, one of the things we KNOW is that Kite has more in his bag that we've never seen, and this is already a close fight with what we've actually seen...Hisoka has nothing new to offer, but Kite does.
I don’t read manga in search of reality. But I love HxH because, it’s more like a real fight. The weaker person can absolutely win. Characters run out of steam, and it shows. Arrogance plays a massive role, and unlike other series, will power didn’t make earlier “ once a day 1hitkill “moves spammable or tankable. Or when a character reveals their motivation, is reminded of it, or if they care more they get super buffed. Which could work, here are real life examples: Look at Tyson Fury vs Wilder 1. Wilder hit TF with a knock out punch in the 12 round. He started cheering early. TF got back up at the last second. DW looked like an anime bad guy. His eyes widened like “wtf”. And the crazy part was, TF was fighting defensively all that fight. But after he got knocked down. He went on offense. He talked about “I was down, but then I opened my eyes. And if I could do that, I could get the fuck back up. I knew I needed to knock him out.” And, the reason why he was trying so hard, is he was suffering from suicidal depression. So he had to push. Max Holloway - got pissed mid fight. Because the announcers and judges had been saying he was fighting the best boxer. So he stopped looking at his opponent, but kept dodging his hits while hitting him. Justin Gathije vs Tony. Justin was getting hit hard, and a lot. He was hitting Tony too but missing many shots. His coach told him “pull back 10%. Stop trying to take his head off.” Justin listened, and ended up knocking Tony out in that round. Or Khabib fighting Mcgregor. He was extremely pissed and upset. But he was constantly reminding himself “don’t get too mad. Stay focused.” Because Mcgregor would piss people off so badly, and Or when a fighter brings their family in, sees them mid fight and it’d either get their adrenaline going more, or try to get ahold of themselves.
I think the biggest testament to how tough Kite was is the fact that a one armed Kite was seemingly able to fight Neferpitou all night and inflict moderate damage while wielding a Crazy Slots weapon that most likely didn't grant him any especially significant offensive capabilities, since supposedly it was the slot that allows Kite to cheat death to a certain extent and the slots tend to be extremely specialized in what they do. Under similar circumstances, I have a hard time believing a pre Chrollo fight Hisoka would have been capable of the same.
@TrevondDestroyosauru I’ve heard that thought before-that Kite and Pitou’s battle lasted all night-and I just don’t buy it. The only evidence for it is the timing of the reveal, which almost certainly was done for dramatic impact. Kite did manage to get at least one or two hits in, though, and even drew a little blood in the manga, so that’s wildly impressive on its own.
@@michaelh9649 I mean in Universe the only other explanation is that Pitou killed Kite for the specific purpose of testing their strength, then sat down holding Kite's head for several hours before going "Okay, yeah I'm strong." I recognize that its for a dramatic reveal, but in Universe the alternative is...awkward
@TrevondDestroyosauru Awkward, maybe, but far, far more likely. The alternative is that Kite, while missing an arm, is strong enough to fight a Royal Guard for hours, yet not strong enough to inflict more than a scratch on Pitou or avoid losing the arm in the first place. Especially when you consider that most the high level nen battles we see last only minutes or even seconds, the leap just seems silly when there’s a far more likely explanation present. I don’t know for sure, of course, but Pitou chillin’ there with his body, thinking about the battle seems more plausible than the alternative.
@@michaelh9649 You know he only lost the arm because of gon and killua being there anf that honestly sounds weird lmao why would pitou sit there for hours doing nothing.
@larrypatterson8044 Yeah, I know that’s why he lost his arm. I’m just saying that if Kite is strong enough to battle Pitou for hours with a missing arm, he would probably be strong enough to avoid losing that arm in the first place, despite Gon and Killua. Pitou sitting there relishing in the fight may be weird, but it makes way more sense than their battle lasting hours. Chrollo vs Zeno/Silva, Youpi vs Shoot/Knuckle/Killua, Netero vs Meruem…all these battles are taking place in a matter of seconds. The only nen battles that get into hours are maybe when the hatsu used is really complex. Pitou doesn’t have hatsu at this point, and all of Kite’s hatsu that we’ve seen is very straightforward. That battle did not last hours.
i wanna see boobytraps(b.g.) and some...EVEN more of the "i`ll throw my severed arm or your own items back at you " stuff ....what if he steals Chrollo`s book ....that probably has a safety ....doing so endangers Chrollo`s attacker to fill 1 of the 4 conditions if they touch the book`s cover with their palm
The most persuasive point is the one about their fighting priorities. Kite is usually seen fighting hoards of lesser opponents while 1v1 is Hisoka's specialty. The only way i can really see Kite winning is if he had access to some kind of sniping long ranged weapon he could finish Hisoka off with before he could react. That's not the craziest idea, considering he is a literal hunter he might have some kind of large game hunting capabilities but that seems... seems like kinda a... long shot
Be also have to remember another thing about Hisoka like to break down the flaw of someone hastu ability. Kite rely on chance on the rolls when he active crazy slot. If kite get draw that don't suit his interests crazy slot would tell him there bad pick.
Be also have to remember another thing about Hisoka like to break down the flaw of someone hastu ability. Kite rely on chance on the rolls when he active crazy slot. If kite get draw that don't suit his interests crazy slot would tell him there bad pick.
I really just can’t see Hisoka beating Kite tbh. People forget to look at Hisoka’s own *fighting style* every time. Hisoka is incredibly smart, but he specializes in deception(hence why he’s the magician). A prime example was when he used slight of hand tactics and revealed his bungee gum to Gatou in order to divert his attention from what he was really planning. Kite is a direct counter to this, he always has his En extended around him incredibly far, meaning that Hisoka couldn’t really pull any tricks like that. Hisoka also tends to open his battles via using bungee gum in similar ways, so its likely that(if Kite gets his carbine) he’ll try to catch it like he did with Gatou, which would be a fatal mistake as even bungee gum would get shredded apart. Also the main thing that makes Hisoka’s bungee gum so unpredictable is that he combines it with numerous other forms of Nen and his other Hatsu in order to make his tricks undetectable. Hisoka is going to be using multiple Hatsu as well as trying to hide the aura but not only would it be wasted on that, but Kite would still see it all thanks to En. Hisoka is creative, but we gotta remember that his strategy still can be very predictable when you actively have an En field around you to detect anything. Hisoka may be an exceptionally skilled physical combatant even against those with weapons, but the problem with Kite’s scythe is that it has that giant whirlwind. It *isn’t* just a normal scythe, it has that powerful whirlwind that would still injure Hisoka heavily if he blocked it with bungee gum or even grabbed it mid lunge. Hisoka is also best at fighting when he knows the circumstances and is in a space with set rules, he was very quickly overwhelmed when he let Chrollo set the terms for their fight(not that Chrollo wasn’t a little too much to begin with, but it still shows how much he struggles in fights where he himself can’t anticipate his enemy prior. We also can’t forget that Hisoka’s most impressive feat(I wouldn’t count his fight with Chrollo as a feat for him because he got outplayed) would be killing Shalnark or beating Gon, neither of which are that impressive. Is Hisoka incredibly strong? Yes. Does he have actual showings that would put him above Kite? No. We know of Hisoka’s high tier in HXH, but we know the same is true for Kite. People can debate about whether Hisoka could have replicated the Pitou feat, but the point is that he *hasn’t* ever done so. He hasn’t done anything that impressive and is therefore over shadowed. Hisoka also fights far worse as he is fighting more properly in order to have fun, meanwhile Kite “fights” to survive and doesn’t hesitate to instantly one shot his enemy if he has to end them. I’ll list more details later
Kite is better suited for hunting and surviving in nature, yeah. But I still do think that he would win against Hisoka. A one-armed Kite was worth more than CA arc Gon and Killua combined, and dealt *some* damage to Pitou, which is incredibly impressive considering Netero dealt about equal damage to Meruem. So a two-armed Kite most definitely has the upper edge against Hisoka here. While Kite might be geared towards PvE, he still has a bunch of weapons which haven't been shown yet. Many of which could've assisted him directly in PvP and made the situation sticky for Hisoka. I think Hisoka stands a very good chance but I'm giving the win to Kite here, although he would take serious damage from Hisoka.
I think basically it comes down to random chance who wins, based on crazy slots. If kite gets good rolls, especially to start with and in the right order that it's convenient to use them then he could win mid diff. But if he gets really bad rolls he doesn't stand a chance. Anywhere in the middle is fair game. Like if kite rolls a close ranged weapon to deal with hisoka coming at him from a hundred metres away then that's a massive waste, and if he's fighting close up and rolls the rifle it's useless and a waste of a few seconds.
@@F0rr0r She was born with Nen. She didn't have an ability but it's not like her abilities were combat oriented anyway. Even without an ability she is a better Nen user than 99% of the people in the universe and would beat all of them.
I likeyour explanation. I think if Hisoka gets attack in one of Kite’s weapons, he would have died, but if he does not, he has more chance to win. I didn’t know about the databook scoring. I could have been bias since I want Hisoka to win every fight.
I mean, this is definitely a cool fight to think about, and everything but not the most interesting compared to the other HxH videos you've done this year, but thanks for keeping it alive
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I realised just how powerful kite's restriction actually is, Kite is someone who hates taking lives, and the restriction of once he draws his weapon he "has to use it" meaning he needs to kill something with it or damage at the very least. This for a average hunter in the Hunter Hunter world does not seem like a strong restriction, but for Kite specifically its probably stronger or just as strong as kurapikas restriction just from the way he views taking lives, as he has always been dedicated to saving them mostly.
Yeah the scythe and carbine are lethal but the mace isn't typically lethal that makes sense
interesting that the mace could have took his own live
@@zackshekelstein1034but that mace also saved his life and gave a reason for kite don't want to die.
That fucking mace looks like a weird toy to me
Crazy Slots is probably the most efficient ability in the series because of all of the restrictions. It's random, Kite hates the clown, Kite doesn't like killing and Kite can only use a specific attack with each weapon.
Counter argument. Kite is very much used to dealing with clowns thanks to his ability so it gives him the edge experience wise 🤣
Kite (who had just gotten his arm ripped off) deeply impressed Pitou with how well he fought, even to the point of Pitou creating a hatsu simply to relive that experience. When comparing that to how ineffective the combined efforts of Knuckle, Shoot, Morel, Melereon etc were against Youpi (even to the point where Youpi just leaves them lying without killing them because he's so far above them), I'd say Kite is incredibly underrated as a fighter.
He literally brings this up in the video
and nobody said he didn't! @@andyb6400
And other thing to keep in mind, when kite fought pitou he wasn’t in his 100%. He had fought before i think he had use his weapon 3 times and was using en the whole night to keeping tracking the quimeras, and lost his arms trying to protect gon and killua. So i will say hi hard was in his 50%
Morel in the palace invasion told that he was around 40%, because he didn’t have a proper rest and was fighting and running all the time. Kite was in a similar situation
Youpi literally becomes a whole new being after fighting Knuckle and Morel and develops a new sort of Hatsu while fighting Knuckle. Plus he finds a new respect for Nen when fighting Killua. I'd say that's on the same level as Pitou after fighting Kite. Plus Pitou had just been born and is inherently very curious. So he was very likely to want to continue fighting anyway.
I think HIsoka said something after his fight with Kastro. That it doesn't matter if he knew how his ability works. I think that shows how much versitlity his ability has.
Telling someone your nen ability is a limitation/restriction that increases your the ability a concept gege akitami borrowed into jujutsu kaisen. So every time hisoka explains his nen ability it is for this benefit
@@micahmcfadden8082 no its not, revealing your technique is a universal way to boost it in JJK but its never the case for HxH, yes you can put that condition in the nen ability where you have to explain it but unless you create it to do so it wont, Bungee Gum has no such condition
@@cthpng9437 No. I'm pretty sure Bungee Gum does get stronger whenever Hisoka explains it, even if he doesn't know it. Just look and Shoot vs Yupi. In that battle, Shoot covered his eye just because it felt right, and that increased his battle capabilities significantly. The narrator even credits this as the reason Shoot lasts more than a few seconds. As another example, Gon holding his kamehameha pose isn't actually a restriction of Jajanken. He just kinda does it. Yet Knuckle factors that into his aura calculations, and those calculations prove to be correct. Taking on extra risks increases Nen ability, even if those extra risks aren't done intentionally or ingrained into your abilities specifically.
@@cthpng9437 what the other guy said.. you can put "restrictions" without knowing it. Like i think komugi became so good at the game because for her if she loses its equals death - extremely hard restriction
kastro is the idiot that split all his talent into 2 seperate trees while ignoring his strongest affinity... we really comparing an idiot to a real hunter?
“Hisoka is geared for pvp while kite is geared towards pve “ literally the best explanation you could ask for
Agreed
I think the crazy slots might actually give kite something good I could see it wanting to be the strongest clown around and giving kite his first good roll
It's a clown off 😂🤣😅
@@Panda_Roll ...Nen-Questions to ponder (and ask Togashi If you ever meet him):
-Bungee Gum introduced the Concept of Alloy-Type Transmutation-Nen... and then never
ever expanded on it. So crazy: We know for a fact Transmuters can combine
things but this was never explored, including by Liam.
Whetever its RUclipsrs or Mangaka, the Expanding cant contradict that Killua
is the Exception, not the Rule, so it can definetly not be possible
to just decide 'Yeah, i wanna make Thunder but nah, it wont hurt me, im the Exception'
-Conjuration's Aura-Cost is Judged how? This is important to know and Togashi should give it a Thought.
I can think of 4 Methods and each is more exploitable than the other.
@@slevinchannel7589it's stated that killua can only withstand the electricity because he was tortured as a child
kite got a super good roll vs pitou
@@jamjammerson1792 true but who’s to say kite doesn’t have a clown killer that’s wouldn’t be good against a bug
Finally Liam out of his hiatus x hiatus, hope Togashi sensi do the same, love this content
I remember that Kite post dead had a very intriguing conversation with the koala when they both last appeared, I definitely see some huge potential for something coming from it, like Kite being more ant than himself. I wish that Togashi was healthier nowadays :(
I agree with you
I'd even just take a novel of content at this point.
Yeah the way Kite was talking reminded me of Meruem
One of my biggest questions about the Chimera Ant arc is "how strong is Kite now?" He was already a 23/30 as a human; now, he is not only a Chimera Ant, but Meruem's SISTER, along with the knowledge of his past life, and thus potential to recover most of his mastery of nen in what I imagine will be a short time. Now, he may not actually be anywhere near the strength of a royal guard nor the king himself, since Meruem probably wouldn't have had a twin without Kite's nen ability, so we don't exactly know what kind of DNA went into Kite's new body (other than the girl that Koala killed).
but every chimera ant is meruems sister - why would it be special in his case?
What many people forget about Kite's Nen ability is that while it doesn't make him choose the weapon he wants, it always gives him the weapon he needs for his situation! It is kinda subconscious !
Thank you
That’s what the guy missed in his video
The weapon roll he gets is suitable for the exact situation he’s in
He will definitely have something for hisoka
The clown machine kinda off seemingly read the fight and opposing nen before it’s even start
Yeah even though he said it was a bad roll when he got the scythe, how could he have gotten a better roll for that situation? It was practically perfect to take out all of the chimera ants in that radius. I think him complaining about the roll is part of the restriction to make the crazy slots as a being with a personality try harder to always give him the roll he needs in a given situation.
@@onecrunch5308 you only think that because we've only seen him use two of his rolls. You have no idea if he had a stronger option in the bank, but just got a mid tier crowd control ability.
@@HibbyGibbons It sure completed the job with ease, effectively and efficiently. At worst it was a good roll regardless of whatever mystery rolls he has. Maybe not the best roll at his disposal for the situation, but in no way was that a bad roll.
Was looking for this comment....the vid is all wrong
I think it comes down to this: for Kite, nen combat is always a means to an end. He's the type to fight when all other options fail. Hisoka is all about the battle though. And this mindset can sometimes make the difference.
Yeah, Hisoka would be more prone to prolong the battle, while Kite would finish it as soon as possible
If you think about it, nearly everybody that Hisoka has killed in battle were one-trick ponies. They spend all of their time and energy on one technique (e.g. Kastro and Gotoh). They don't even try to figure out different ways to use their one ability. All Hisoka needs to do to see the ability once and he will find a way to counter it. So, someone who can practice only one attack isn't going to do well against a person who can create 100 attacks on the fly.
On screen at least. Remember he replaced #4 by killing him.
... Hisoka doesn't have 100 of attacks... He is actually rly limited with his uses, most of the times hisoka doesn't even uses bunge gum to kill, and all of his enemies were weaklings...
Also Kite has sharp weapons which will cut bunge gum, he has good sense with him hunting beats.
We even saw how far those coins reached hisoka, if they had 1,5 times power they would actually reach him and I am sure that kite gun has more power.
Hisoka often plays around with his enemies and gets himself hurt or in bad situation(he literally died because of it), Kite would not let him play around and would imidietly kill him as his arsenal is focused on one hit kills.
Considering the fact that Kite seemed disapointed every time the "crazy slots" gave him a weapon, we can assume that those are the "limited" weapons, and maybe he knew that there are better and more versatile weapons that the crazy slots refuses to give him.
Always thought he only said that stuff to like reverse psychology his own nen creature into giving him the roll he needs
@@nothanksthough that might be more accurate because kite used the scythe at the times where he is being trapped or he was annoyed by the situation and added to that ging mentioned that one of his skill is only drawn when he needs to be serious
I thought it was like a nen restriction to buff the power of them slightly that must say “bad roll”.
@@siddhantchauhan1975 it might be the start of using the items. he says a phrase to end the use of the item as well. are the phrases the same with the scythe and pistol?
It's definitely reverse psychology. You can't tell me he had a better option in any of the circumstances he was in. He gets a scythe when he's surrounded, a gun when he needs to defend somebody from a distance and a reincarnating mace when his death is inevitable.
Just to clarify, the reason why Kite was unable to us Nen in that one scene where Gon promises to get him back to normal is that Knuckle used Hakoware to take his Nen away. It had nothing to do with Pitou’s Dr. Blythe.
Basically, Knuckle used Hakoware to take away Zombie-Kite’s Nen, and then Shoot used Hotel Rafflesia to put him in his birdcage.
Not knocking the video or anything, just thought I’d point that out 🤓🤓🤓
Nen-Questions to ponder (and ask Togashi If you ever meet him):
-Bungee Gum introduced the Concept of Alloy-Type Transmutation-Nen... and then never
ever expanded on it. So crazy: We know for a fact Transmuters can combine
things but this was never explored, including by Liam.
Whetever its RUclipsrs or Mangaka, the Expanding cant contradict that Killua
is the Exception, not the Rule, so it can definetly not be possible
to just decide 'Yeah, i wanna make Thunder but nah, it wont hurt me, im the Exception'
-Conjuration's Aura-Cost is Judged how? This is important to know and Togashi should give it a Thught.
I can think of 4 Methods and each is more exploitable than the other.
!??
Yeah, I think I remember that but now it got me thinking... If nen is basically the person's lifeforce, how would a corpse even be able to use nen, since they're, you know, dead?
I think another important piece of data for scaling Kite (however little this actually tells us) is the condition that Pitou was in after fighting an extremely nerfed Kite (he did the entire fight missing an arm and after battling his way to the nest). Pitou had barely a scratch on them, but that's still not nothing. And they seemed to really enjoy fighting Kite. So, there might be a lot more that we don't know about.
Lot to unpack in this situation and then consider against how we think Hisoka would fair against a character like Pitou. It's very important to realize that Pitou was possibly significantly weaker at the time, as they had just been birthed.
Ultimately my money is still on Hisoka. The guy is a freak. It's hard to bet against anyone who can push Chrollo the way he did, especially after seeing Chrollo take on the two patriarchs of the Zoldyck family AT THE SAME TIME.
Tbf I always feel like Chrollo's fight with the Zoldycks is given way more credit than it's due. They don't know how his ability works so they're being very cautious and trying not to show off, they're also not going full out because there are two of them and they clearly don't need to.
Plus Chrollo didn't try to kill them either, he was just stalling for time.
Basically it says very little about how they'd fair in an actual fight because neither side was fully going for it. And Zeno says he would probably win 1:1 with the probably being because he doesn't know his nen abilities in full so he can never be 100% sure. But Chrollo's ability is no where near as powerful as it seems, because the powers are all borrowed and not made for him so he can only steal rubbish powers or good ones that he can't use to their full potential.
@@alexjames7144 That's totally fair-especially the point about how literally neither party was actually trying to kill the other. Makes it hard to use as a really reliable data point.
I'd still say that, regardless of your views on the Chrollo v. Zoldyck fight, we can safely say Hisoka is a freak without considering that fight :)
@@alexjames7144 Agreed the fight with the zoldyks was of a tactical nature they were playing it safe trying to understand their opponents abilities. They only went for the kill when they had "certainty" they had him trapped. I doubt it would be anneasy fight if either Zoldyck waa going all out. I still think 1v1 Chrollo would come out on top but by no means would it be an wasy fight. If it was an assassination rather than a straight fight that would be a whole other story.
@@cantingmoss0627 Oh I agree Hisoka is a force of nature, I just think the fandom massively overestimates Chrollo. His fanboys don't like it when you say that though 😬
@@alexjames7144agreed if anything I think Hisoka is the underrated character in terms of strength
Omg thank you, another hunter video is exactly what I needed
I thought crazy slots worked by giving Kite the weapon that was actually best for that particular situation. Like the scythe helped clear multiple enemies at once, the gun was perfect for killing the small chimera ants and the staff was needed for him to resurrect.
It’s what the clown think is best for the situation the point where at time it may test kite but since it’s his men at the end of the day I think it something that allows him to step up to the challenge like the lower number are stronger than the higher number. But this is all speculation.
One thing I noticed about kite's crazy slots is it seems not as random as it seems. Every time he uses it gives the best weapon for whatever situation he's in. In the forest surrounded by enemies is perfect for the scythe, and the gun is useful in most situations especially if the enemies aren't grouped together and even if they are, the gun came out most often. And of course against pitou, the magic wand which saved his life in whatever mysterious way it does. If it was just random , and a different weapon came out, then he'd probably definitely just be Dead dead instead of dead alive or reincarnated or whatever.
So I think whatever weapon comes out would be the best weapon to defeat hispka, and he certainly is skilled enough to use it right so kite would have a good chance to win. But I haven't seen enough of kite fighting and everything I know hisoka has done, I would bet on hisoka
Crazy slots said too kite himself every roll is not bad draw. You is spot on what said bro crazy sloth roll number depending on the situation and the condition might be in. Mace weapon kite draw against Pitou for sure save his life.
@@laquanlucas6953 there are no bad rolls!! 😂🤣I liked when it said that
@@tatsukagemaroukite rolls from the crazy sloth depend on what situation he is in. And crazy slots stated their is no bad roll even though kite would say bad draw. Maybe the higher number in crazy sloth from the roll kite is looking for. But think Togashi would shoe that later. Hisoka like fight and break down flaw of someome hastu ability.
Something unaccounted for: Kite was tought by Ging. You know, the guy that saw Leorio's nen ability once - ONCE - and proceeded to not only perfectly copy it, but improve upon it. Another key point is what Ging told Gon about Kite's Crazy Slots, which was something like 'Kite has a number he only gets when he's in a bad spot, and it makes him really hard to kill' (haven't read in a while so not gonna even attempt to quote him verbatim). I just want to reiterate that Kite was taught by someone who, after only witnessing a few panels of him actually using nen (the few combat scenes as well as the nen control game he plays with his new crewmates), completely changed every reader's perspective - at least those who pay attention - on how nen works. There's a fairly consistent pattern of compliments correlating to ability in HxH, and Ging has consistently been portrayed as one of the - if not the most - well known and respected nen users. If a guy like that dishes out complimentary statements towards someone, there's probably a bit more going on there than we readers know. Also, who's to say Kite doesn't have a direct counter to Hisoka's bungee gum in his Crazy Slots' numbers?
on another note, i dont think Ging is the type to teach someone who doesnt interest him in some way, kite is probably the only "student" Ging took on. So he probably saw a ton of potential in him, and helped him bring it out
Lmao how's about a flamethrower that destroys transmuted/conjured stuff? That would be so op!
I’d go with kite. Most people are simply caught off guard with what hisoka is planning. Not to discredit his abilities because he is super creative. “In” also can sense nen, flashing in instead of gyo would give him a good idea of what hisoka is doing. Either way it’s a good fight tho. Also he does still have other slots, I’d imagine the scythe was brought out for for large numbers. Carbine for multiple little targets, the little mace to avoid death. He is likely getting that piercing rifle at the start until the situation changes.
Kite low-diffs no question, Hisoka would be incapacitated with Schwiiiiing at the mere sight of Crazy Slots, literally everything he loves rolled into one clown-shaped package
This would definitely be one of the most interesting fights in the series if it ever happened - polar opposite personalities (Kite is overly cautious of everything and Hisoka gets more excited the stronger the threat), and polar opposite nen abiities (Kite with supposedly no control over what weapon he'll get, while Hisoka is always in the driver's seat when it comes to his Bungee Gum and Texture Suprise abilities, having ridiculous control of them).
Finally, new new world review
I think it would be a fairly RNG based fight and depend on what rolls he gets, if he's given a chance to reroll, and what his other weapons ended up being, in response to the part about each of the slots being fairly standard, straightforward weapons, the staff he gets when fighting pitou seems to indicate otherwise since it seemed to imply it transferred his soul to a nearby body, which is a unique ability
Yeah and doesn't kite like functionally get the roll he needs by emotionally manipulating the Crazy Slots clown telling him ugh bad roll again
Part of the nature of combat as explained by Bisky is that there is always the possiblility that a weaker opponent in an advantagous situation may be able to overcome a stronger opponent. But the based on what we know, Hisoka has the advantage most of the time. So maybe Kite has the perfect answer somewhere (like a flamethrower that dissolves gum-like aura), it seems to be that he cant just reroll over and over in fast-pace combat hoping to land something specific. Liam is spot-on with this
2:04 Hisoka's face has me on the floor
Kite always gets the best possible weapon for the scenario. He would get something for Hisoka, I strongly believe that
Yeah, I’ve always assumed part of the restriction of crazy slot is that it chooses for Kite. Based on Ging’s comments on it, there is a mechanism for the correct tool to be chosen, it’s just out of Kite’s hands.
I wish Kite wasn't killed so early I want to see his other weapons. Silent waltz was cool but surely Kite has equally powerful weapons. If so what are they and how do they work?
I think that would not work, his restriction is meant to either benefit him or hold him back, that’s the cost of having a restriction in my opinion
And would still get destroyed
beaten? maybe but destroyed is crazy considering he was giving pitou a run for her money with a missing arm+ he had been fighting all night before pitou@@jvr6809
Just saying, youre a master of your craft. The genius shines through every single episode
Kites ability is always been so intriguing.
We understand it at a nase level butnthere could potentially be so many hidden factors to it.
That can bring it from good nen ability to phenomenal nen ability.
I think the “setup” is just as important. If Kite is chasing Hisoka (phantom troupe stole from his friends, given the assignment by association, seeking revenge after Gon got killed by hisoka) vs Hisoka chasing after Kite (or by extension Ging) the initial contact may be completely different.
As you say, Kite is a more “natural” Hunter that does his research and studied his prey. He seems more calculating in his approach and with preparation may hold an advantage. Also on initial contact, he may make the choice to flee and fight at a more advantageous arena.
The best circumstances for Hisoka are for him to target Kite in order to find Ging. He’s already in the fighting mindset going into it while Kite is reacting more predictably whilst fleeing. Kite: “This trap should allow me a moments rest” Hisoka: “mmm yes I would agree… if it was your normal prey!”
Just tossing them into a ring and fighting for fights sake makes this whole scenario play out extremely in Hisoka’s favor.
Adding some build up and set up to the confrontation may narrow that gap or possibly towards kite’s favor. Though I think Hisoka’s ingenuity may rebalance things yet again, there’s a good chance that Kite can see through the chaotic clown’s versatile vigor.
I agree. If Kite is hunting Hisoka, Kite would have done a similar way as how Gon stalked Hisoka, or better because of his experience. Since Hisoka didn't even notice Gon, I doubt that he will notice Kite as well. With this, when Kite rolls for his weapon, the clown may give him one shot type of weapon such as the gun (assuming that the clown actually gives the best roll for the situation). Kite could fatally wound Hisoka and ultimately making him the winner. However, if it was just a straight up fight like in the arena, Hisoka would probably win.
1:30 Man it's like a perfect stoicism meets chaos incarnate (like my wordplay). What would I do to watch this fight happen .
Crazy slots gives Kite the weapon most suitable for the situation he is in.
It’s almost guaranteed due to the nature of crazy slots that if kite felt he was in danger, he would summon the wand so that he could be revived so I think given that hisoka would always win but kite would be immortal.
Even if that were the case, fighting against Kite would likely get Hisoka as aroused if not more as when he fought Chrollo. So he would also most likely pull another "O My Rubber Nen", and then we'd have a postmortem Nen battle between genderswap albino man and battle clown.
The wand seems to find a way for Kite to survive, not necessarily by reviving him.
Basically, Kite starts losing, he realizes this and the wand causes an unlikely series of events that results in Kite getting away.
@@thermophile1695 i can go with that. Either way i dont see kite winning or hisoka losing. Eventually they would just start dating, especially if kite genderswapped and was an ant. That seems way up hisokas alley for some reason
We must remember to tell Kite, that bungee gum has the properties of both rubber and gum😮
The wand doesnt revive him. He got revived because the queen ate him
Hi Liam, love the videos. Jus wanted to know if you ever thought about expanding into other anime or revisiting ones you’ve talked about before like JJK or JoJo?
seeing Liam do a deep dive on jjk would be a treat
"I'm a bit sad about your points against Kite :/
Kite is intelligent and understands that some/most of his abilities are straightforward. If you recognize this, you have two options: either be thoughtless like Gon and lack a plan B, or develop at least one truly adaptable ability. Bungee Gum offers less versatility than a Crazy Slot with nine abilities, which can be straightforward yet still adaptable. For instance, a scythe can not only slice but also pierce, block, and counter, and its handle can be utilized for quick strikes. A Katana is more than just a large knife, yet you would never label it as straightforward.
To be honest, I believe the fight would be exceptionally close, and solely based on my analysis, I'd say Kite has a "good chance," but it won't be easy (maybe 60:40?). Hisoka's primary strength lies in his innovative strategies and the sheer panic he induces in his opponents, causing them to make poor decisions or catch them unprepared. Conversely, Kite is an exceedingly cautious Hunter with a composed mindset.
But truth be told: Hisoka would emerge victorious 100% due to Plot Armor
I think also it would bei a 60/40 fight for Hisoka, but it depends on the situation e.g a hunt there would kite kite win the fight.
i am not watching this yet since i'm on vacation and i want to sit down with the video, but i have been WAITING of a kite power video. I think he's so underrated
3:46 Famous last words
“Who would win in a fight battle?!” Is just fantastic, I will definitely use this in the future.
I'm so happy for more NewWorldReview content. Loving Grandlinereview, but these are less frequent so a little juicer
Nen-Questions to ponder (and ask Togashi If you ever meet him):
-Bungee Gum introduced the Concept of Alloy-Type Transmutation-Nen... and then never
ever expanded on it. So crazy: We know for a fact Transmuters can combine
things but this was never explored, including by Liam.
Whetever its RUclipsrs or Mangaka, the Expanding cant contradict that Killua
is the Exception, not the Rule, so it can definetly not be possible
t just decvide 'Yeah, i wanna make Thunder but nah, it wont hurt me, im the Exception'
-Conjuration's Aura-Cost is Judged how? This is important to know and Togashi should give it a Thught.
I can think of 4 Methods and each is more exploitable than the other.
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Not only we dont know all the crazy slots weapons we also dont know if it has any extra abilities. I think it might be something connected to slots. For example if you roll the same weapon 3 times in a row it gets stronger or it gets an additional effect. Maybe something like Hakari fron Jujutsu Kaisen. If kite has some hidden ability like that he acually gets stronger the longer he fights and it fills any weaknesses he might have. If Im not mistaken it was stated that Ging helped Kite develop his ability and we know he is the GOAT.
Always love the “work talk”. I just like to listen to it. And this is straight forward work talk. Analysis, interpretation, thought, and care were put into this. Appreciate it. And I just flat out agree. Don’t know a lot about HxH but this sounds good. Hisoka victory.
Glad to see that you didnt completely forget about this channel
3:50 yah but one could argue he just has to use them not hit them
The fact Chrollo was able to catch Hisoka off guard with regular people who aren't enhanced and Kite fought against Pitou and seemingly did damage though minimal but he was handicapped and was Gings pupil who has multiple weapons for versatility strength comparable to wild beasts at the least Hisoka pre PMN boost loses but current Hisoka looking like a big problem for the verse
One thing I notice you did miss is that Kites Crazy slots has specific slots for times that he doesn’t want to die so that with that it’s safe to say he has weapons that are built more for 1 v 1 combat like whatever that clover wand thing does. I would say a lot of Hisokas tricks can be avoid if you are as knowledgeable as Kite is so I think there’s a bit more to consider
This video just reminded me how frustrating it is that we only know 2 of Kite's crazy slots outcomes.
I once heard a theory that crazy slots always gives kite the perfect weapons but he says they are bad because he hates killing
there goes my fan-art idea...great video as usual o.c.
I totally agree. If Kite were to win, he either needs to win super quickly, or take advantage of Hisoka's battle lust.
Don't forget he literally won a battle by purposely getting his arm chopped off
Goddamn bungee gum reminders lol
I’ve been waiting for this analysis Omg I’m so excited
I think the way Crazy Slots works, is rather than RNG it assigns him a weapon best suited to his situation based on available information - with the methodology being either subconscious or not his own.
Which would explain how he drew convenient weapons to fodderize fodder, and drew effectively a phoenix down for Neferpitou - while it looks random the implementation of the hatsu seems to be somewhat optimized
So ultimately Hisoka getting one tapped could be pretty viable
Honestly the fight will turn into a magic contest between hisoka and the crazy slots
If a guy like Feitan was caught in a pinch against a Squadron leader, then Hisoka will also have difficulty against them. Meanwhile, Kite held off Pitou long enough for Gon and Killua to escape.
Plz give more videos dude I was waiting for centuries at least one video per week
I can't imagine Hisoka losing to Kite, honestly. Kite dislikes taking live, while Hisoka lives to kill. That alone makes this a tough fight for Kite.
I think another thing missed is that Kite seemingly gets the right tool for the job when he rolls. Though he doesn’t know what it is, it’s always a viable tool. Resurrection Theory and all that.
Honestly a fight between chimera ant kite and post Mortem hisoka would be a delight to see
Chimera Kite stomps.
@@louayker4249it too quick too assume we have to know since kite is reborn as an ant. Is he still be able to use his hastu ability crazy sloth when he was once a human.
the saddest part is kite die without knowing that bungee gum has both quality of gum and rubber
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All I'm saying is that Kite in their new body gives Eatdatnen445 the perfect excuses to commit all of the depraved thoughts which he might have...
"Officer; she may be 14 physically while I'm 23, however, I assure you that that girl is in fact a middle aged man mentally"
I think an interesting concept for Crazy Slots would be a simple but extremely powerful and versatile ability that comes with the elusive "good roll," or in other words the jackpot of the crazy slots ability.
I think Kite is clever enough and has enough aura to make a single roll of crazy slots a powerful ability with it's only restriction being how rare unlikely it is to roll it.
Do Powerscalers agree with this video here?
You have very well said vidoes. I appreciate it. Good rounded aspects as well.
I think the "PvP and Pve" is a good comparison and shows why Hisoka would win the fight most of the time and only Kites calm nature might prevail and win only if Hisoka allows it by almost being a one second mistake so to speak otherwise he beats kite.
The thing everybody is forgetting is that kite impressed pitou with just one arm. You would have to pit hisoka against Pitou in the same condition and have hisoka do as well to make that comparison.
i love the popsicle stick puppets it’s a very unique addition to your videos. great video keep it up
Kite is probably the most underrated character in hxh
And Hisoka overrated. I can’t see him beating Uvo.
@@BennLuvsYou24 he is, yes. But in hxh you can’t just say: oh this character is this strong!
That’s because a weak character could be a strong character. It’s so specific with the abilities
Amazing job. More videos like this please.
Nen-Questions to ponder (and ask Togashi If you ever meet him):
-Bungee Gum introduced the Concept of Alloy-Type Transmutation-Nen... and then never
ever expanded on it. So crazy: We know for a fact Transmuters can combine
things but this was never explored, including by Liam.
Whetever its RUclipsrs or Mangaka, the Expanding cant contradict that Killua
is the Exception, not the Rule, so it can definetly not be possible
to just decide 'Yeah, i wanna make Thunder but nah, it wont hurt me, im the Exception'
-Conjuration's Aura-Cost is Judged how? This is important to know and Togashi should give it a Thought.
I can think of 4 Methods and each is more exploitable than the other.
Feelings aka Individual Subjectivity, Economy,
Weight, and Atomic-Complexity.
i always agree with you. excellent logic. thanks for another good video
I just realized the clown’s hairstyle kinda looks like cosmo imai from kengan
Remember a royal guard called kite strong when they fought.
"kite would win if he finishes the fight in an instant' i agree with this statement.. kite's power definitely is a killer, but its a straightforward one.. the longer the fight goes on, the lower his chances of winning
I love that they both got post mortem nen. HxH gettin crazy
More
HxH videos thanks man
Love the pvp vs pve reference makes the winner very clear cut and dry
Another interesting one is what if Chrollo meets/knows about Tserriednich.
Good video but im oretty sure kite would beat hisoka for many reasons: his crazy slots are always suitable for the situation, he has unknown abilities that may be even better than shown and for this hes above a nen master stated by killua, keeping his en up to 40 metres for a long and time, add a chopped arm before fighting pitou and then giving her an intense fight kite was at 50% during it at best so imagining him at 100% hisoka stands little chance.
I still think Kite takes this with difficulty. Hisoka is often reckless, and allows damage to himself because of his confidence in Bungee Gum, which, to be fair, is not exactly misplaced. But I think it's entirely possible, even probably, that Hisoka gets caught by multiple Crazy Slots options, potentially even by overthinking, although, since Hisoka's ability is also simple yet flexible, he might figure that out somewhat quickly.
I get what you are saying regarding working with what we actually know, however, one of the things we KNOW is that Kite has more in his bag that we've never seen, and this is already a close fight with what we've actually seen...Hisoka has nothing new to offer, but Kite does.
6:26 possible restriction for crazy slots: kite can’t carry weapons.
This is the HxH fight I've been waiting for to be honest
I don’t read manga in search of reality. But I love HxH because, it’s more like a real fight. The weaker person can absolutely win. Characters run out of steam, and it shows. Arrogance plays a massive role, and unlike other series, will power didn’t make earlier “ once a day 1hitkill “moves spammable or tankable.
Or when a character reveals their motivation, is reminded of it, or if they care more they get super buffed.
Which could work, here are real life examples:
Look at Tyson Fury vs Wilder 1.
Wilder hit TF with a knock out punch in the 12 round. He started cheering early. TF got back up at the last second. DW looked like an anime bad guy. His eyes widened like “wtf”.
And the crazy part was, TF was fighting defensively all that fight. But after he got knocked down. He went on offense.
He talked about “I was down, but then I opened my eyes. And if I could do that, I could get the fuck back up. I knew I needed to knock him out.”
And, the reason why he was trying so hard, is he was suffering from suicidal depression. So he had to push.
Max Holloway - got pissed mid fight. Because the announcers and judges had been saying he was fighting the best boxer. So he stopped looking at his opponent, but kept dodging his hits while hitting him.
Justin Gathije vs Tony.
Justin was getting hit hard, and a lot. He was hitting Tony too but missing many shots. His coach told him “pull back 10%. Stop trying to take his head off.”
Justin listened, and ended up knocking Tony out in that round.
Or Khabib fighting Mcgregor.
He was extremely pissed and upset.
But he was constantly reminding himself “don’t get too mad. Stay focused.”
Because Mcgregor would piss people off so badly, and
Or when a fighter brings their family in, sees them mid fight and it’d either get their adrenaline going more, or try to get ahold of themselves.
Keep up the great work and videos Liam
kite not having a katana during the chimera ants arc could easily be explained bt the fact that he was going to go visit ngl
I think the biggest testament to how tough Kite was is the fact that a one armed Kite was seemingly able to fight Neferpitou all night and inflict moderate damage while wielding a Crazy Slots weapon that most likely didn't grant him any especially significant offensive capabilities, since supposedly it was the slot that allows Kite to cheat death to a certain extent and the slots tend to be extremely specialized in what they do. Under similar circumstances, I have a hard time believing a pre Chrollo fight Hisoka would have been capable of the same.
@TrevondDestroyosauru I’ve heard that thought before-that Kite and Pitou’s battle lasted all night-and I just don’t buy it. The only evidence for it is the timing of the reveal, which almost certainly was done for dramatic impact. Kite did manage to get at least one or two hits in, though, and even drew a little blood in the manga, so that’s wildly impressive on its own.
@@michaelh9649 I mean in Universe the only other explanation is that Pitou killed Kite for the specific purpose of testing their strength, then sat down holding Kite's head for several hours before going "Okay, yeah I'm strong." I recognize that its for a dramatic reveal, but in Universe the alternative is...awkward
@TrevondDestroyosauru Awkward, maybe, but far, far more likely. The alternative is that Kite, while missing an arm, is strong enough to fight a Royal Guard for hours, yet not strong enough to inflict more than a scratch on Pitou or avoid losing the arm in the first place. Especially when you consider that most the high level nen battles we see last only minutes or even seconds, the leap just seems silly when there’s a far more likely explanation present. I don’t know for sure, of course, but Pitou chillin’ there with his body, thinking about the battle seems more plausible than the alternative.
@@michaelh9649 You know he only lost the arm because of gon and killua being there anf that honestly sounds weird lmao why would pitou sit there for hours doing nothing.
@larrypatterson8044 Yeah, I know that’s why he lost his arm. I’m just saying that if Kite is strong enough to battle Pitou for hours with a missing arm, he would probably be strong enough to avoid losing that arm in the first place, despite Gon and Killua.
Pitou sitting there relishing in the fight may be weird, but it makes way more sense than their battle lasting hours. Chrollo vs Zeno/Silva, Youpi vs Shoot/Knuckle/Killua, Netero vs Meruem…all these battles are taking place in a matter of seconds. The only nen battles that get into hours are maybe when the hatsu used is really complex. Pitou doesn’t have hatsu at this point, and all of Kite’s hatsu that we’ve seen is very straightforward. That battle did not last hours.
Great video! Do more of these please!
Do Powerscalers agree with this video here?
More versus battles pls!
i wanna see boobytraps(b.g.) and some...EVEN more of the "i`ll throw my severed arm or your own items back at you " stuff ....what if he steals Chrollo`s book ....that probably has a safety ....doing so endangers Chrollo`s attacker to fill 1 of the 4 conditions if they touch the book`s cover with their palm
“that’s an often forgotten aspect of kite’s abilities” - right after Liam forced me to watch Hisoka bang O.H.
New Vid! I hope its going to be amazing as always! As expected a great vid as always!
The most persuasive point is the one about their fighting priorities. Kite is usually seen fighting hoards of lesser opponents while 1v1 is Hisoka's specialty. The only way i can really see Kite winning is if he had access to some kind of sniping long ranged weapon he could finish Hisoka off with before he could react. That's not the craziest idea, considering he is a literal hunter he might have some kind of large game hunting capabilities but that seems... seems like kinda a... long shot
Be also have to remember another thing about Hisoka like to break down the flaw of someone hastu ability. Kite rely on chance on the rolls when he active crazy slot. If kite get draw that don't suit his interests crazy slot would tell him there bad pick.
Be also have to remember another thing about Hisoka like to break down the flaw of someone hastu ability. Kite rely on chance on the rolls when he active crazy slot. If kite get draw that don't suit his interests crazy slot would tell him there bad pick.
Something tells me that we would all expect kite to win, only for hisoka to obliterate him
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Never forget that bungie gum has the properties of both rubber and gum
Hisoka will k*ll Kite medium to high difficulty, due to the limitations of his weapons.
I really just can’t see Hisoka beating Kite tbh. People forget to look at Hisoka’s own *fighting style* every time. Hisoka is incredibly smart, but he specializes in deception(hence why he’s the magician). A prime example was when he used slight of hand tactics and revealed his bungee gum to Gatou in order to divert his attention from what he was really planning.
Kite is a direct counter to this, he always has his En extended around him incredibly far, meaning that Hisoka couldn’t really pull any tricks like that.
Hisoka also tends to open his battles via using bungee gum in similar ways, so its likely that(if Kite gets his carbine) he’ll try to catch it like he did with Gatou, which would be a fatal mistake as even bungee gum would get shredded apart.
Also the main thing that makes Hisoka’s bungee gum so unpredictable is that he combines it with numerous other forms of Nen and his other Hatsu in order to make his tricks undetectable. Hisoka is going to be using multiple Hatsu as well as trying to hide the aura but not only would it be wasted on that, but Kite would still see it all thanks to En.
Hisoka is creative, but we gotta remember that his strategy still can be very predictable when you actively have an En field around you to detect anything.
Hisoka may be an exceptionally skilled physical combatant even against those with weapons, but the problem with Kite’s scythe is that it has that giant whirlwind. It *isn’t* just a normal scythe, it has that powerful whirlwind that would still injure Hisoka heavily if he blocked it with bungee gum or even grabbed it mid lunge.
Hisoka is also best at fighting when he knows the circumstances and is in a space with set rules, he was very quickly overwhelmed when he let Chrollo set the terms for their fight(not that Chrollo wasn’t a little too much to begin with, but it still shows how much he struggles in fights where he himself can’t anticipate his enemy prior.
We also can’t forget that Hisoka’s most impressive feat(I wouldn’t count his fight with Chrollo as a feat for him because he got outplayed) would be killing Shalnark or beating Gon, neither of which are that impressive.
Is Hisoka incredibly strong? Yes. Does he have actual showings that would put him above Kite? No.
We know of Hisoka’s high tier in HXH, but we know the same is true for Kite. People can debate about whether Hisoka could have replicated the Pitou feat, but the point is that he *hasn’t* ever done so. He hasn’t done anything that impressive and is therefore over shadowed.
Hisoka also fights far worse as he is fighting more properly in order to have fun, meanwhile Kite “fights” to survive and doesn’t hesitate to instantly one shot his enemy if he has to end them.
I’ll list more details later
Kite is better suited for hunting and surviving in nature, yeah. But I still do think that he would win against Hisoka. A one-armed Kite was worth more than CA arc Gon and Killua combined, and dealt *some* damage to Pitou, which is incredibly impressive considering Netero dealt about equal damage to Meruem. So a two-armed Kite most definitely has the upper edge against Hisoka here.
While Kite might be geared towards PvE, he still has a bunch of weapons which haven't been shown yet. Many of which could've assisted him directly in PvP and made the situation sticky for Hisoka. I think Hisoka stands a very good chance but I'm giving the win to Kite here, although he would take serious damage from Hisoka.
I think basically it comes down to random chance who wins, based on crazy slots.
If kite gets good rolls, especially to start with and in the right order that it's convenient to use them then he could win mid diff. But if he gets really bad rolls he doesn't stand a chance. Anywhere in the middle is fair game.
Like if kite rolls a close ranged weapon to deal with hisoka coming at him from a hundred metres away then that's a massive waste, and if he's fighting close up and rolls the rifle it's useless and a waste of a few seconds.
Pitou was nenless at the time though, so that’s another thing that has to be considered when talking feats.
@@F0rr0r She was born with Nen. She didn't have an ability but it's not like her abilities were combat oriented anyway. Even without an ability she is a better Nen user than 99% of the people in the universe and would beat all of them.
@@zyonic69420he* Pitou is a man bud
@@F0rr0r that's plain wrong, she literally used her En on Gon&Killua to scare them
Really cool and creative video really liked it
Kite comes with a high clown tolerance, giving him an instant edge over Hisoka's bullshit.
3:48 how you gonna just stop like nothing just happened
Great vid! Would be a cool fight but I agree that my bet would go on the crazy clown!
I likeyour explanation. I think if Hisoka gets attack in one of Kite’s weapons, he would have died, but if he does not, he has more chance to win. I didn’t know about the databook scoring. I could have been bias since I want Hisoka to win every fight.
I mean, this is definitely a cool fight to think about, and everything but not the most interesting compared to the other HxH videos you've done this year, but thanks for keeping it alive
Don’t let kite distract you from the fact bungee gum has both properties of both rubber and gum