89 Cherokee Starter Relay Diagnosis and Replacement

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024

Комментарии • 136

  • @wyattoneable
    @wyattoneable 5 лет назад +10

    The ending was awesome. You could have edited that out but you kept it real. Thanks. Showing the relay and the wires was a big help troubleshooting my own start problems.

  • @JoshWinscot
    @JoshWinscot Год назад +1

    Dude thank u for making this have the same problem in a 89 yj waiting for the part ill update soon.

  • @gsnanna56
    @gsnanna56 6 лет назад +7

    Straight forward regular guy with good video and explanation! Love your sense of humor too. THANKS GUNNY!

  • @B-RADRIDES
    @B-RADRIDES 3 года назад +1

    I like how you posted this anyhow.

  • @ranger7586
    @ranger7586 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Nick. Very amusing, but it helped to rule out starter relay and NSS. In our case it was the actual ignition switch that was loosened by bubba for some reason.

  • @badlt.5189
    @badlt.5189 9 лет назад +2

    Thanks for letting us share that pie with you! :)

  • @coeneschamaun1735
    @coeneschamaun1735 5 лет назад +2

    Like many others noted, THANKS FOR THE LAUGH!! I learned what that little box is for, not even sure if my MJ 4.0 Liter has one of those..... But, I'm still in research mode for bad starter/starter not engaging flywheel scenario. I wish all life's problems were that simple. LOL

  • @allisonboyce5367
    @allisonboyce5367 5 лет назад +3

    Great video with explanations of how to test the starter relay! But, the best part is the ending!!!! You made me laugh!! Thank you!

  • @JoseDavalos-lw1hz
    @JoseDavalos-lw1hz 9 месяцев назад

    I learned a trick by jumping power straight to the starter solenoid, topped couple of times, then turn the engine switch
    Room! Roon
    Is working

  • @teddygirl1999
    @teddygirl1999 16 дней назад

    Thanks, helpful. After testing all leads, the ground for the relay was bad. Rusty mounting and screws.

  • @8avexp
    @8avexp 3 года назад

    My '88 acted up exactly the same way. Mine has a 5-speed, so there's no neutral safety switch. I just need to make sure it's in neutral so it doesn't start rolling with the clutch engaged. Update: it turned out to be a loose battery cable at the starter. The nut and lock washer had worked their way loose. I put two stout lock washers and a taller flat-based nut that threads onto virtually the entire length of that cable mounting stud.

  • @YankeeCherokee
    @YankeeCherokee 9 лет назад +3

    Haha I know that feeling man! Sometimes you gotta learn your own lessons haha. Glad to see it back on the road. Always learn something from ya man, keep the vids coming!

  • @godlikegohan2
    @godlikegohan2 9 лет назад +1

    great video
    love the step by step ,how to diagnosis . that old relay was not long for this world anyway.

    • @8SLC01
      @8SLC01 4 года назад

      Muy buen video, I need help with the spark plugs wire what is the order of them

  • @chrisgourlay5309
    @chrisgourlay5309 6 лет назад +1

    you sir are a beautiful human being

  • @lukek3953
    @lukek3953 8 лет назад

    Your Jeep is 27 years old... mine is only 19 years old...! And ours are still moving and we love it. :D

  • @thesoftgoat1398
    @thesoftgoat1398 9 лет назад +1

    Reminds me of the time I replaced the radio antenna on my 93 XJ only to find there was a union joint behind the panel on the passenger side that had separated.

    • @CantUwU
      @CantUwU 7 лет назад

      TheSoftgoat tell me more about this cause this literally happened to me right now

  • @Patriotfan987
    @Patriotfan987 9 лет назад

    I looked down at the shifter the second time you went to start it in the video and I thought it looked like it was in reverse or drive and I was about to comment and then I decided to finish the video and once you realized that you had messed up I died laughing in my living room. Keep up the awesome videos man you have by far become my favorite Jeep RUclips channel!

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv 9 лет назад

    LOL Your just having one of those days :-D.
    We all have those days but we dont film it, its brain dysfunction day.
    But your video isnt wasted, we had a frendly laugh and it reminds us to check the "gotcha!!" switches first.
    I would take the old relay to bits and give it a spring clean, a functional spare part :-)

  • @okkiebokkelul9718
    @okkiebokkelul9718 2 года назад

    Been there done that. Good news is you gave me some quick trouble shooting tips. Thanks

  • @jamesmcginnity1874
    @jamesmcginnity1874 4 года назад

    Sounds like my day with my YJ. I still say thanks for the video. My Relay is 30 yrs old original , I think its time to do mine . I can get kicked in the butt to with mine sometimes. My I wire giving my starter only 9.5 volts right now. Still a good video man.

  • @KountryBoy7
    @KountryBoy7 2 года назад

    Where did you get your starter ignition relay from.. having issues with 87 comanche

  • @ymp5000
    @ymp5000 8 лет назад

    You live and you learn. If you don't learn something new every day you ain't living.

  • @grimykid6471
    @grimykid6471 3 года назад

    ever have one of those days.. hahaha i had that today and this instantly helped my mood haha good stuff...

  • @ForsakenCrimmy
    @ForsakenCrimmy 9 лет назад

    Hey bud dont feel too bad. Someone stole my jeep and they broke my shifter trying to get it in gear. When i got it back and replaced it my jeep suddenly didnt have park anymore but would still start. And i only had the 1-2 gear options. Every other gear was neutral =P I hooked up the shift cable but forgot to clip in the bracket that keeps tension on the cable.

  • @alex_ottomano
    @alex_ottomano 9 лет назад +1

    Oh man that rough lmao, hey at least you can rest assured ur starter relay won't be a problem any time soon lol

  • @tylerbrown7230
    @tylerbrown7230 5 лет назад +1

    Club xj approved

  • @TheMrDmack
    @TheMrDmack 9 лет назад +1

    Having fun in this snow? Not sure if the shore recieved any. We got a good bit in my part of NJ.

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  9 лет назад

      +TheMrdmack Vander I got 10"-13", probably the most I've seen in a very long time here.

  • @Pies106
    @Pies106 3 месяца назад

    Que.gran ayuda muchas gracias.. saludos.

  • @codybrookehanson2346
    @codybrookehanson2346 5 лет назад

    What are the positive wires running to it. The green fusible link that splits off into 4 red wires is blown. When I repaired it the engine wouldn't shut off with key off. So I cut the link and everything works again... confused.

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  5 лет назад

      Good question, that's the main 12v positive distribution point for all systems so anything that needs hot 12v goes there.

  • @Cantinatollo1
    @Cantinatollo1 3 года назад

    Can you make it more difficult, convoluted and longer than necessary?

  • @kevinskustomsca
    @kevinskustomsca 2 года назад

    down to earth cool guy best video ever lol

  • @hillbillyhobopowders6239
    @hillbillyhobopowders6239 4 года назад +1

    Wow the video was awesome teaching some valuable lessons about over all troubleshooting, but there is always a BUTT!!! Once that you discovered your error then you had to go into dragging our Lord And Savior into the middle of it!! Don't get me wrong dude it was done really good content in fact you were one of the few I would have subscribed to until the end of the video. If you can honestly tell me in your future videos you won't repeat that again then I will subscribe and will even get you about twenty or more other people to subscribe. Anyway loved your content you have a true talent for making a video. As always from Hillbilly Have A Happy!!!!

  • @mattgaler9305
    @mattgaler9305 9 лет назад +6

    nice lol. you should do a Q&A vid about yourself man im sure we would all like to know more about you personally

  • @thehouseofhorsepowerautobo4506
    @thehouseofhorsepowerautobo4506 4 года назад

    Hey great videos thanks for sharing. I'm helping my daughter with her 89 renix cranking no start. So far no spak no pun intended lol I test battery engine off 17 volts I test coil plug engine off 17 volts any ideas

  • @steventsunami9506
    @steventsunami9506 5 лет назад

    It’s good to know I’m not alone.

  • @polgzg
    @polgzg 9 лет назад

    I saw you were not in park when you first went to turn the ignition..I was yelling at you to put in park as I watched the video, just as one yells at a horror movie pending victim to not go in the basement! lol!

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  9 лет назад

      +Pete Martinez Lol, You'll just have to yell a little louder next time. haha.

  • @PabstBoys
    @PabstBoys 9 лет назад +1

    LOL Bud!!! That had me in stitches!

  •  9 лет назад

    Hahahahah! Nice one! :D
    In your defense, however, I'll say that the NSS can be out of place and not allow the starter to work even when in P or N.
    Sometimes I have to pull the shifter just a hint to make it work.
    Someday I'll have to go down there, loosen the adjustment nut and move it one way or the other to make it work properly :)

  • @ShutterC357
    @ShutterC357 4 года назад

    So my jeep will start. But the battery loses voltage only whilenit is running. I figured jt was a faukty relay... But when i look at mine, it has orange on top, green in the middle for the starter and green at the bottom as well then the blackcand white on the ground... Would that be the issue?bworried tovchange it and fry something

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  4 года назад

      If you are under 12v then your alternator isn't working. That's what charges the system.

    • @ShutterC357
      @ShutterC357 4 года назад

      @@NickInTimeFilms ive done replaced the alternator and battery. The power wire from relay the the alternator was in 3 pieces. So ive replaced that for the time being and actually order the jeep able.com wires you put on your renix.

    • @ShutterC357
      @ShutterC357 4 года назад

      Now the voltage for the battery aits at 11.8 when its not running and when i start it it drops down to 3 to 5 with no start and barely turning over, then will jump right back to 11.7 11.8 as soon as the load is off.

  • @juliomazariegos8796
    @juliomazariegos8796 8 лет назад

    from the beggining the shifter wasn't in P ????... but all the info and tips are good enough 👍

  • @jacobjordan9495
    @jacobjordan9495 3 года назад

    Hey dude i can use some help, i have a 88 XJ renix and it wont turn over ive tried it all, the engine is fine i hear it turn over a bit but it gives out and stalls

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  3 года назад

      Hows your map sensor vac line and fuel pump ballast resistor?

    • @jacobjordan9495
      @jacobjordan9495 3 года назад

      @@NickInTimeFilms fuel is fine, um i have a list of things we tried no bueno, something about intermittent spark tho :/

  • @ciscochacho1751
    @ciscochacho1751 6 лет назад

    THAT'S COOL BRO YOUR AWSOME. BUT I LEARNED WHAT THAT LITTLE DEVICE IS. THANKS MAN.

  • @outlander7717
    @outlander7717 8 лет назад

    Hey any chance i can get some info on your alternator setup....renix should have the cs130(small case...small output)and i see you have it high mounted.

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  8 лет назад

      Let the search be with you...
      ruclips.net/video/UKI5RjTzOcg/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/5Yqtwrq5GrI/видео.html
      It's a 170amp rewound AD244 which is the next gen of a CS144, which is the big brother of the cs130. I choose it because it was internally regulated so it was compatible with the Renix system.

  • @zelnoid9549
    @zelnoid9549 Год назад

    You seem like a alright guy

  • @starvnny3535
    @starvnny3535 6 лет назад

    I'm having a very hard time with my Jeep , it's got no dash lights, no head lights nothing except the door buzzer. What's giving me a really hard time is my Jeep body is a 94 but the motor is an 87 or so I was told when I bought it and I can't refer to my Haynes repair manual or really any particular video I have found on RUclips cuz nothing matches, It's done this three times before but started right up after I let it sit about 10 minutes and years went by before it done it again which tells me it could be a circuit breaker because on some models they reset their self. Could you please give me any advice at all on what to check and how to check it with my multimeter? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated and quickly tried.

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  6 лет назад

      Hmm, I'm not nearly as familiar with the HO Jeeps to know what might cause that exactly. I'd check that grounds are good, headlight switch is ok, and just general wiring issues. Does the vehicle start or do anything when the lights don't work?

  • @frankiegamezjr
    @frankiegamezjr 5 лет назад

    Thanks for this video, it helps me a lot.

  • @ravenwood1135
    @ravenwood1135 6 лет назад

    Hey Nick it happens sometimes the older you get the more often. Haha keep them coming

  • @CognizantPotato
    @CognizantPotato 4 года назад

    Could this cause a crank no start issue?

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  4 года назад

      No. If you are cranking then the starter is working.

  • @shadowwolf386
    @shadowwolf386 4 года назад

    I have an 86' Comanche that doesn't crank over. Someone said it's the starter. It wants to crank when I "Jump" the starter. Is it the starter, or just the relay?

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  4 года назад

      If directly jumping the starter works, then I'd think possibly relay. Gotta see if the starter signal wire is getting power and where it comes from.

    • @shadowwolf386
      @shadowwolf386 4 года назад

      @@NickInTimeFilms it doesn't fully start it. But it wants to. Which is more than I get from just turning the key. It doesn't fully crank over.

  • @mitchelfrench253
    @mitchelfrench253 9 лет назад

    Hahahahahaha. Nick best video yet.

  • @herewegrow5113
    @herewegrow5113 3 года назад

    Going to try replacing this. The other day it cranked and tried to start, I was like maybe I'm out of gas and my gauge is wrong. But it wasn't. Then the next day- no power to my dash at all.

    • @callmejakob
      @callmejakob Год назад

      Did you end up replacing this? And did it give you your power accessories back?
      Mine will crank but not start and i have no power in the "On/Run" position. Everything is dead.

  • @TheSpaceshipTruth
    @TheSpaceshipTruth 4 года назад +2

    Thanks, needed that so I don't feel like its just me.

    • @jcw74801
      @jcw74801 4 года назад +1

      Yep, me too. Been there, done that. Trying to diagnose a "no start" problem while the shifter was in neutral the whole time.

  • @danger2329
    @danger2329 7 лет назад

    Where did you find that solenoid? Shopping online and I can't find it anywhere.

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  7 лет назад

      The starter relay? Just search that up: shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/bwd-starter-relay-s4905/19970822-P?searchTerm=starter+relay

    • @danger2329
      @danger2329 7 лет назад

      NickInTimeFilms Nice. Has the solenoid been holding up good?

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  7 лет назад +1

      Yeah, works fine

  • @cheeze121583
    @cheeze121583 7 лет назад

    i have a 90 xj sometimes my starter enguages will stay that way until i unhook battery seems like when i get it wet i unhook relay mess with it then its fine replaced the relay does it random any ideas?

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  7 лет назад

      So it still does this with a new relay? Hmm, if you've got a multimeter, I would hook it up to the sense wire on the relay and check the voltage when it starts cranking on it's own. If there is voltage on that line then it looks like something further up the chain is sticking. You could also check the sense line on the starter to see if that is getting voltage when it shouldn't. That might give you an idea of what's going on.

    • @cheeze121583
      @cheeze121583 7 лет назад

      NickInTimeFilms yeah il be goin on a trail all of a sudden you hear the starter kicked in if I pull the green wire it stop but fuel pump is still running and louder than normal

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  7 лет назад

      Oh so the starter just comes on randomly throughout driving? Jesus. Does it fully engage or just spin? If pulling the green wire to the starter relay fixes it then obviously that wire is getting power when it shouldn't. Maybe something is loose under the dash then.

  • @BigmoneyMando
    @BigmoneyMando 7 лет назад

    Hey I have a question do you have your alternator connected to your starter relay?

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  7 лет назад +1

      +armando tabarez yes, that is the positive distribution point where everything meets up

    • @BigmoneyMando
      @BigmoneyMando 7 лет назад

      Alright thanks. I was thinking it went straight to the battery but that's where I'll hook it up the starter relay

  • @Gasoline2009
    @Gasoline2009 7 лет назад

    Hi, can l ask you if this kind of relay provide to works the fuel pump relay too? Cause my jeep stop to work, means no fuel comes from the tank. But the fuel pump relay doesn't work, l mean, it is good (l changed with mant to be sure of this) but it doesn't "click". So , l saw on the electric scheme, that from the relay you posted in this video, there's an output goin to the "ballast", So, can be this item do the problem on my jeep? Thank you so much for your help.

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  7 лет назад

      When you first turn the key on, the fuel pump relay turns on for 3 seconds and then shuts off. If you turn the key off and then back on, you should hear the pump run for another 3 seconds and then shut off.
      The Ballast Resistor is only used when the engine is running. So if the Engine starts up but then dies shortly after, it's the ballast resistor.

    • @Gasoline2009
      @Gasoline2009 7 лет назад

      Yeah l know about the Ballast resistor, but the problem is that l dont have power at the fuel pump relay. I mean that l do what you just told me, and l know how it works for 3 seconds, but in my case, it doesn't work too. No click on the fuel pump relay and the relay is new. This is why l asked you is the other "big silver" realay has some connection with the fuel pump relay.

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  7 лет назад

      Looking at my diagram, it looks like there is an Orange/blk wire that comes off the starter relay to feed the fuel pump when starting

    • @Gasoline2009
      @Gasoline2009 7 лет назад

      Ok , this is means that the problem is the starter relay that provide to power the fuel pump relay. Indeed, l remeber that in last 2 days when l got this problem and the jeep stop to work, l went under the hood and l "knocked" on top of the fuel pump relay and the jeep starts to work. So l thoug was that relay, but then to be sure l changed it with other same and the problems came again. Probably when l knocked on that relay l "moved" a bit the starter relay and it provided to makes works the fuel pump relay. So l think l have to change the starter relay. I notice you that in a part it works, cause the engine is rotatin but not starts cause no fuel. What a kind of "stupid" relay :-(

    • @Gasoline2009
      @Gasoline2009 7 лет назад

      Thank you so much and when l'll back in US, l fill you with gallons of beer ;-) if l'll solve this problem ;-)

  • @brianavina8840
    @brianavina8840 9 лет назад

    question my jeep turns off when I hit a bump to hard and then it won't start for a minute or so. do you have any idea what the problem is?

    • @brianavina8840
      @brianavina8840 9 лет назад

      It's a 1988 jeep cherokee

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  9 лет назад

      maybe a loose ignition cylinder? not sure

    • @brianavina8840
      @brianavina8840 9 лет назад

      Agh. When I got the jeep I noticed the steering wheel is very loose I'm able to move it up and down. I'm 100% sure it's not a post to do that.

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  9 лет назад

      +Brian Avina watch my gm steering column vid then, that might help

  • @jett0017
    @jett0017 6 лет назад

    Thanks for sharing helped me out

  • @plsniper
    @plsniper 7 лет назад

    LMFAO!!!!! Hey, look at it this way. Better than being a pilot and realizing you landed with the gear up. :) Awesome vid.

  • @andrewmacias4795
    @andrewmacias4795 8 лет назад

    awwww man i had the same problem but my starter wires bolt wasn't tighten down on my starter enough....but funny stuff .

  • @23demolitionderbyman
    @23demolitionderbyman 9 лет назад

    what multimeter do you use?

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  9 лет назад

      +Brandon Klassen It's a UEI DM383B

    • @williamj5686
      @williamj5686 6 лет назад

      NickInTimeFilms OL on your meter means open loop, bud, not overload hahaha

  • @tracyupshaw7862
    @tracyupshaw7862 4 года назад

    That was priceless!!

  • @InternetDude
    @InternetDude 9 лет назад

    Too funny, if I was you I'd probably be too embarrassed to upload the video LOL

  • @LZDEN
    @LZDEN 8 лет назад

    nick you are a funny chap..but well done you got it in the end..;-)

  • @obxjeepguy
    @obxjeepguy 4 года назад

    OL is "open loop", not Over Load.

  • @danvsjeep8062
    @danvsjeep8062 4 года назад +1

    I do silly ass things like this all the time lol. "Why no anything? Why no GO!?!?!?!" ::Forgot to re connect the negative battery cable::

  • @randyanderson6110
    @randyanderson6110 5 лет назад

    I see that you have 3 red wires going to the relay.
    1 is battery.
    1 is starter.
    Whats the 3rd one heading towards the block?

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  5 лет назад

      So that stud on the starter relay is considered the main distribution point for the positive side of the system, everything comes from there. I believe here I had 1 from the battery, 1 from the alternator, 1 to my aux fuse box, and then all the tiny factory positive feeds under that. Starter and winch pull directly from the battery though.

  • @15205golfer
    @15205golfer 8 лет назад

    lol, I feel for you, man.

  • @bmkolb
    @bmkolb 2 года назад

    Me too

  • @AaronMartinCOOLVIDEO
    @AaronMartinCOOLVIDEO 9 лет назад

    It is ok I did the same thing.

  • @LaserLuther
    @LaserLuther 9 лет назад

    Hilarious, good video.

  • @huntersieling8011
    @huntersieling8011 5 лет назад

    Bruh😂😂😂 I noticed that right away

  • @paulbaker6233
    @paulbaker6233 2 года назад

    Good info greatly appreciated.. you'll do much better in life for yourself if you delete foul language from your vocabulary.. Cheers..

  • @Ghandisgarage
    @Ghandisgarage 9 лет назад

    i have bought cars with that problem before
    easy money

  • @tomswulf_lv6217
    @tomswulf_lv6217 9 лет назад

    Fun video end

  • @shoaybizbest
    @shoaybizbest 9 лет назад

    Haha I really needed that laugh

  • @InternetDude
    @InternetDude 9 лет назад

    Man another person using dielectric grease wrong. Dielectric grease is only intended for high volt applications like spark plug boots (distributor cap), etc. It's absolutely not meant for regular 12V type connections. Dielectric means it's non-conductive, it's totally not meant for what you did. Tons of people use it for applications like that but you're really not helping yourself. Go buy electrical grease, I use Motorcraft XG-12 I picked up from the Ford dealer. It is meant for connections like you have here and doesn't interfere with the conductivity of the connections. It's also good for any other 12V wire/connector on your Jeep, I use it on ground points, etc. amzn.to/1ngDORR

    • @NickInTimeFilms
      @NickInTimeFilms  9 лет назад

      Interesting read, but I use it more to keep moisture off the contacts then anything else.

    • @InternetDude
      @InternetDude 9 лет назад

      +NickInTimeFilms I suppose if you want to get technical, it would be fine to use dielectric grease over the terminal stud after making a proper connection. You just don't really want to spread it on the actual connection points because it's actually hurting the transfer of electricity. I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just trying to spread the word so people (such as your subscribers) learn this. I am on lots of forums and I see people use dielectric grease all the time because it's very easy to find & buy. Electrical grease on the other hand is uncommon and many people aren't even aware of it.

    • @timothybowles8294
      @timothybowles8294 4 года назад

      InternetDude uui

  • @shawnkulczyk4935
    @shawnkulczyk4935 2 месяца назад

    😂❤

  • @danielantoniozd26
    @danielantoniozd26 5 лет назад

    Lmao, great vid!

  • @z3phyrdok
    @z3phyrdok 5 лет назад

    🤣🤣🤣🤘

  • @ge8377
    @ge8377 2 года назад

    😂👏

  • @petme135
    @petme135 8 лет назад

    😂🤣

  • @greghertzberg6220
    @greghertzberg6220 3 года назад

    Test my ass just buy a relay, quit wastin time and move on!

  • @brokeassgarage209
    @brokeassgarage209 2 года назад

    Last week my 90 grand wagoneer left me sit at my kids bus stop. It cranks all day but it lost coil power.

  • @DooberD33
    @DooberD33 2 года назад

    Turn the power back on jumpstart the starter solenoid with a screw driver 😂