Up Downs is what Jerry Kramer spoke of in his book. He said we did so much more than the average team that Lombardi was consumed with conditioning! He would say fatigue makes cowards of us all!
@@michaelmapes4119 It's surprising because Tom Fears was on Lombardi's staff. Same with Bill Austin who played for and coached under Lombardi. He was a fine OL when Lombardi was the Giants OC and then coached under Lombardi twice in Green Bay and Washington taking over in 1970 when Lombardi died. Fears and Austin by all accounts did not use the discipline approach that Lombardi employed. Phil Bengston was also that way when he replaced Lombardi and let alot go that Lombardi would of been all over. I write surprising but then we see most of Belichick's guys have not been successful HC's. Paul Brown had some tree with guys like Collier, Shula, Noll, Ewbank, Walsh and many offshoot guys also.
It would be interesting to see a comparison of how current players train now versus how they trained in this time. My perception is that players from this time conditioned more with this sort of body weight training versus today's players using more weight training.
@@WayneKeen probably one reason they didn't get all the soft tissue injuries and pulled muscles and the guys back in the day seemed to have more endurance! Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell played in the run and gun 1960's and yet they regularly played all 48 minutes and years later if a Shaq O'Neill played 40 minutes his tongue was hanging out. Phil Jackson told Shaq that Wilt would of ran him to death up and down the court. In the last playoffs series that Wilt ever played the 1973 NBA finals, he played all 240 minutes in the 5 games series against the Knicks! Around age 37 and Wilt was playing all 48 minutes per game in the playoffs. How about the pitchers with 300 innings pitched and 20 to 30 complete games in the 1970's and today if a guy goes 7 innings he is looking for oxygen and 100 pitches is wow I'm done! Bobby Orr used to play 35 to 40 minutes and the guys now play 22 minutes! It's a joke!
Vince knew his team was going to be great. He went from the very fundamentals of conditioning to every detail of the playbook. No one was going to beat his team. There is a reason that his name is on the Lombardi Trophy.
In the last 30 or 40 seconds you see houses in the background, it makes it look like they are practicing in the neighborhood park. It sure makes it look like another aspect of the team being part of the community, rather than a team that lives and works in their own bubble
I am a Tom Landry-era Dallas Cowboys fan. My favorite NFL players were obviously Cowboys players, but I had favorite "enemy" players too. My favorite "enemy" player of all was Mr. Bart Starr, the greatest QB in the history of the GB Packers....... and one of the most humble and gentlemanly players ever. R. I. P. #15 Bart Starr 🏈 God bless our pro football heroes from a by-gone era.
When I see these old films of pre-modern era football camps, I am always struck by how lean the players are in comparison to todays players. The biggest lineman could not have weighed more than 265 pounds.
There was actually a bias in that direction. If a coach of that time saw one of today's 300 pounders, I don't doubt he would have been cur pretty quickly, with reason being that they were too fat to play football.
0:15. The guy with the baseball cap near the front is Tom Fears. The guy with the baseball cap in the back is Phil Bengston. 0:21. The guy with the dark shorts and no cap on the right is Bill Austin. 0:26. The guy with the cap on the far right is Red Cochran. 0:31. Bill Austin again. That domed building in the background. What is it? When was it built? That should give you a clue as to when this film was shot. 0:52. The guy with the baseball cap turning his head. I think that is Norb Hecker. 1:21. Tom Fears again. 1:30. Bart Starr. Of course. The guy with the glasses is the ball boy. Vince Lombardi, Jr.
The domed building is the Brown County Veterans Memorial Arena. It was opened on November 11, 1958 and torn down in 2019. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_County_Veterans_Memorial_Arena
I think this is 1959 his first yr but I'd love to know for sure. It's presented as 1959 in NFL Films features but they tend to be liberal on that sort of thing when presenting clips from this era.
Up Downs is what Jerry Kramer spoke of in his book. He said we did so much more than the average team that Lombardi was consumed with conditioning! He would say fatigue makes cowards of us all!
When Hornung went to the saints, he said when the saints were told to only do half that number, the team almost mutinied!
@@michaelmapes4119 It's surprising because Tom Fears was on Lombardi's staff. Same with Bill Austin who played for and coached under Lombardi. He was a fine OL when Lombardi was the Giants OC and then coached under Lombardi twice in Green Bay and Washington taking over in 1970 when Lombardi died. Fears and Austin by all accounts did not use the discipline approach that Lombardi employed. Phil Bengston was also that way when he replaced Lombardi and let alot go that Lombardi would of been all over.
I write surprising but then we see most of Belichick's guys have not been successful HC's.
Paul Brown had some tree with guys like Collier, Shula, Noll, Ewbank, Walsh and many offshoot guys also.
It would be interesting to see a comparison of how current players train now versus how they trained in this time. My perception is that players from this time conditioned more with this sort of body weight training versus today's players using more weight training.
@@WayneKeen probably one reason they didn't get all the soft tissue injuries and pulled muscles and the guys back in the day seemed to have more endurance!
Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell played in the run and gun 1960's and yet they regularly played all 48 minutes and years later if a Shaq O'Neill played 40 minutes his tongue was hanging out. Phil Jackson told Shaq that Wilt would of ran him to death up and down the court. In the last playoffs series that Wilt ever played the 1973 NBA finals, he played all 240 minutes in the 5 games series against the Knicks! Around age 37 and Wilt was playing all 48 minutes per game in the playoffs.
How about the pitchers with 300 innings pitched and 20 to 30 complete games in the 1970's and today if a guy goes 7 innings he is looking for oxygen and 100 pitches is wow I'm done!
Bobby Orr used to play 35 to 40 minutes and the guys now play 22 minutes!
It's a joke!
Vince knew his team was going to be great. He went from the very fundamentals of conditioning to every detail of the playbook. No one was going to beat his team. There is a reason that his name is on the Lombardi Trophy.
In the last 30 or 40 seconds you see houses in the background, it makes it look like they are practicing in the neighborhood park. It sure makes it look like another aspect of the team being part of the community, rather than a team that lives and works in their own bubble
I am a Tom Landry-era Dallas Cowboys fan.
My favorite NFL players were obviously Cowboys players, but I had favorite "enemy" players too. My favorite "enemy" player of all was Mr. Bart Starr, the greatest QB in the history of the GB
Packers....... and one of the most humble and gentlemanly players ever.
R. I. P.
#15 Bart Starr 🏈
God bless our pro football heroes from a by-gone era.
Landry and Lombardi were NYG coordinators together. We could sure use them both now!
Rodgers is lightyears better
That looks like Lombardi's kid, Vince Jr. at 1:30 doing ball boy duties.
When I see these old films of pre-modern era football camps, I am always struck by how lean the players are in comparison to todays players. The biggest lineman could not have weighed more than 265 pounds.
There was actually a bias in that direction. If a coach of that time saw one of today's 300 pounders, I don't doubt he would have been cur pretty quickly, with reason being that they were too fat to play football.
It's funny, but when i was a kid growing up in the 60's "pre-modern" meant the 1930's or 40's. This is just football from my youth in Wisconsin.
Bart Starr died at age 85 in 2019. I had no idea until yesterday. Good God Almighty..!!!
Watch the Brett favre halftime ceremony where they retired his number and they had Bart Starr there. Brought a tear to my eye
0:15. The guy with the baseball cap near the front is Tom Fears. The guy with the baseball cap in the back is Phil Bengston. 0:21. The guy with the dark shorts and no cap on the right is Bill Austin. 0:26. The guy with the cap on the far right is Red Cochran. 0:31. Bill Austin again. That domed building in the background. What is it? When was it built? That should give you a clue as to when this film was shot. 0:52. The guy with the baseball cap turning his head. I think that is Norb Hecker. 1:21. Tom Fears again. 1:30. Bart Starr. Of course. The guy with the glasses is the ball boy. Vince Lombardi, Jr.
The domed building is the Brown County Veterans Memorial Arena. It was opened on November 11, 1958 and torn down in 2019. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_County_Veterans_Memorial_Arena
@@glenbard657 Yeah that's what I thought as well. Brown County Arena would have really been the only building that size in GB at the time.
The guy with glasses catching balls thrown back by receivers is Vince Lombardi Jr.
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I think this is 1959 his first yr but I'd love to know for sure. It's presented as 1959 in NFL Films features but they tend to be liberal on that sort of thing when presenting clips from this era.
1959, before Vince Lombardi Jr. headed to college
The players were so much smaller back then..That team would lose 100-0 to the the worst team in today's league