I don't know about Sambar, but the 9.3x62 definitely IS probably the best sporting smokeless cartridge ever designed for the guy that only wants one gun.
I’ve used a heap of different cartridges for traditional Sambar hunting scenarios. Hands down, the 9.3x62 Mauser is a tailor made cartridge for this. It’s super accurate and using any soft point 232g to 285g projectile gets the job done quick and effectively. Recoil is similar to a heavy 30/06 load and barely noticeable in the field. Otto Bock produced an excellent cartridge that handled virtually everything in Africa at a price point and action length that farmers could afford. Even today (nearly one and a quarter of a century later) it’s the minimum acceptable cartridge for species such as Cape buffalo….that says a lot about its ability
I picked up an older husqvarna a couple days ago in 9.3x62 and just from the box and a half I've shot from it I already love it and can't wait to test it out on moose here in Ontario
If I could only have two center fire rifles they would be a 6.5x55 and a 9.3x62. I bought both over 20 years ago and never regretted it. Also, the 9.3x62 has a good following in Alaska for the big bears.
I was gonna say the same thing! 6,5x55 ans 9,3x62 are two excellent choices, and they fit well in a gun with a switch barrel configuration. The 9,3 x62 kicks about the same as a 12 ga shotgun.
I got my 9.3x62 about 6mths ago after 20 years of wanting one. and I was pleasantly surprised how nice it is to shoot. More shotgun push than anything. It's now my favorite.
Hunting everything around here ( western Canada ) with mine, no issues. It doesn’t mangle the meat as bad as my 270 and the animals so far have dropped in their tracks so no searching. I like it as protection from big bears, a lot of my hunting is in grizzly territory although I have never had that issue so far. CZ 550 FS, handloading 286 gr Nosler partitions. Sighted in about 1 1/2” high at 100 yd, hold on the hair out to 300 yd, 1.5-4.4 Leupold scope. It is very hard to fault a 9.3 in the real world.
I have used a CZ550 in 9.3x62 in Africa and all over North America over the last 20 years and can honestly say that this is as close to a perfectly balanced hunting cartridge ever made. If I had to be limited to only one rifle, it would be chambered in the 9.3. A lot of cartridges have better paper ballistics but this guy punches way beyond what the ballistic tables say it should.
great to see some love for the grand old 9.3x62. i just got one recently and i absolutely love it. the fact that this cartridge is legal for dangerous game in a lot of African countries just goes to show how effective it is, especially with good quality bullets. i'm yet to go and shoot something with mine, but i'm looking forward to it. on top of that, it really doesn't kick that bad. great video as always.
I live in France and have been using the 9,3x62 (mainly American soft point factory ammo) for 11 years, on roe, boars and red deer. It's awesome, effective and for me has very little recoil - certainly no more than a 12 gauge/bore. I now use Hornady interlocks. You'll certainly love it! I haven't lost a hit animal (driven) in the past 11 years.
I have a Rossler Titan 6 rifle in 9.3x62 ,its a great calibre for hunting in thick scrub at shorter distances , easy to get loading components for in Australia .
I had a 30-06 FN Mauser converted into a 9.2x62 by a Nuremberg gunsmith. Based on an old photo of an African Mauser. It was a great weapon. Later I sold all my guns because I moved abroad. Greetings from Thailand
Nice video mate 👍👍👍 9,3x62 Mauser is my favorite. For me, it's most versatile cartridge. From roe deer to elephant NO PROBLEMS. In long throated CZ-550 you can handload 286gr bullets to 2550 fps without pressure issues. P.S. Nosler Partition have BC almost .500...
I’ve been using 9.3x62 lately and love it! 286gn Aframe going at 2450fpsout of my 20” barrel rifle! I really like my 30-06’s, they have served me really well over the years, but the 9.3 is awesomer! That said I got my moose this year with my 8x57 200gn accubond going 2550 ish fps ! I’m getting a single shot in 9.3x74r soon and I think it will be great also! I keep my shots to inside 200-250m
My two rifles are the 30-06 & Sako's 9.3x66 (370 Sako Magnum)...with the right load, the 9.3 will push 250gr about the same as a 200gr from the '06... 3200ft/lb on the '06, & about 4100ft/lb on the 370.... The 9.3x62 falls dead in the middle of those two. Nothing wrong with the 9.3x62 though, would pick it over a 35 Whelan any day. Easy to find ammo for. Nice bear & moose cartridge. For reference, the shoulder on the 9.3x62 is moved forward (more than the '06/35 Whelan) about .091", & the 370 Sako is .249" longer.
I had a custom Takedown in 9.3x64 for quite some time, it goes up another level with that round, slightly better than the 375 H&H, but no animal would know the difference. Good Video
My absolute bucket list rifle is a Remington 7600 rebored to 9.3×62. I read an article on the internet about an African hunter who came up with this idea after a close encounter with a wounded lepard. He called it his "Pumpr Thumper".I would set it up with a folding stock and see through scope rings, or off set red dot mount for close in work. That would be one hell of a compact, ass stomping setup, for just about anything on earth within practical range.
Interesting good information. Your comparison really should have been to the 35 Whelen. I have both. My Whelen is a custom job built around a 98 Mauser action. My 9.3x62 is a Husqvarna M640 that I got from a gentleman who grew up hunting in Africa where his father was a government game ranger. Now he lives in the U.S., arranges African safaris and still hunts there often. The 9.3 I got from him was one of his extras. He said he had taken three Cape Buffalo with it in recent years. While not equal to the 375 H&H on paper it seems to be close in effectiveness on dangerous game. He said that in Africa the 9.3x62 is referred to as the European 375. It is not legal for dangerous game in all the African countries but is grandfathered in several countries because its reputation. Now as to the 9.3x62 Mauser vs the 35 Whelen. The SAAMI MAP for the Whelen is 62,000 PSI. For the 9.3x62 the MAP is only 57,500 PSI. Don’t ask me why, but as such when loaded to maximum pressure the 35 Whelen will propel any equal weight bullet as fast or faster than any safe 9.3x62 load. Woodleigh and some others make high quality .358 diameter bullets up to 310 grains or more. Norma makes 358’s as light as 232 grains. I don’t remember what their heaviest 358 is. Good luck finding any of them. The .008” difference between 9.3mm/0.366” diameter and the 9.09mm/0.358” diameter of the Whelen is statistically and practically insignificant. When both are loaded with 250 grain bullets the useful case capacity for the 9.3x62 is only 0.3 grains larger. When loaded with the 286 grain bullet the useful case capacity of the 9.3x62 is actually 1.8 grains less than the 35 Whelen with the 250 grain bullet. This data is from the most recent Nosler #9 reloading manual. When compared to the 30-06 the Whelen with a 250 grain Nosler Partition at 2500 fps shoots flatter than the 30-06 with the 220 grain round nose bullet or the Nosler Partition of the same weight with more down range energy. With some bullets 250 grain 35 Whelen at 2500 fps will shoot as flat as the 180 grain 30-06. With 225 grain bullets the Whelen is amazing. The Hornady 200 grain SuperFormance 35 Whelen at 2910 fps out of a 24” barrel equals the 358 Norma Magnum with the same weight bullet. On both ends of the rifle! The 30-06 is very versatile but if you want to get the most out of those .308 diameter 200+ grain bullets you might as well step up to the 300 Win Mag, 308 Norma Magnum or my favorite the 300 H&H. The 9.3x62 is probably best with a heavy constructed 286 grain or heavier bullet on dangerous game or elk sized game or the big bears in North America. The problem is those bullets are really too heavy constructed for Whitetails or Mule Deer. On the other hand the 285 grain thin jacketed Privi Partisan bullet at around 2300 fps work great because they expand well on those thin skinned species. I use a real gunsmith who actually builds rifles and doesn’t just slap together AR’s from parts. He turned me on to the high quality PPU brass. I have a source right now to get the factory PPU ammunition at a really good price. The old Remington Core-Lokt load will work fine if you can find any without having to get a second mortgage on your home. The old Remington was notorious for not meeting its advertised velocities. I don’t know if the new Remington ammo under new ownership and new management is any better. After all above said, the 35 Whelen and the 9.3x62 Mauser are really two peas in a pod. There is no practical difference between them. Happy hunting boys and girls!😊
@@ericschulze5641 If you mean 9.3x62 Mauser rifle I certainly would not advise it. The 9.3x62 case is larger with several different dimensions. You could have a 35 Whelen case rupture in the 9.3x62 because the case would not be properly seated against the chamber walls. The Whelen bullet is 0.358” diameter vs 0.366” for the Mauser. Even if you did manage to chamber a round and fire it without the case rupturing, the 0.008” smaller diameter bullet of the Whelen would rattle through the bore of the Mauser with extremely poor accuracy in m opinion. The 35 Whelen case is based directly on the 30-06 Springfield and as such 35 Whelen cases can be formed from 30-06 with the proper die sets. In a pinch 9.3x62 cases can be formed from 30-06 cases but it’s not a simple process and the results will be less than spectacular. The 9x25 aka 9mm Mauser Export was a pistol cartridge developed around 1904 for the C96 Mauser pistol and no way related to the 9.3x62 or 35 Whelen cartridges.
@@ericschulze5641 Not familiar at all. Had to look it up. What I found said indistinguishable ballisticly but not dimensionally from 9x56 Mannlicher-Schoenauer. Not even listed under SAAMI. CIP rates it 41000 psi or 36000 cup. Even if it would chamber, no way in Hell would I try to shoot 35 Whelen in any action chambered for 9x56. You would be better off to just buy a 35 Whelen, 8x57, 9.3 x 57 or 9.3x62. All of those better performers than 9x56. You would probably have to have custom dies made for the 9x56 unless you already have them. Even 9.3 x 57 is hard to find but more likely to find commercial already made dies. At least 8x57 brass and dies not hard to find as a start for 9.3x57. Same with 30-06 for 35 Whelen.
9.3x62 is a great cartridge, but if you want to get serious try the 9.3X64 Brenneke. Fits into a standard length action that will normally handle a 30-06 but is the European equivalent to the 375 H&H. Mine is built on a P14 action with a Walther barrel and groups 25mm at 100m.
You need a foldable directors chair and trestle table from bunnings for those bush sight ins. Directors chair is flat and you don't sink like a camp chair. Knees get to old for going up and down shooting😂
Well it's true that there literally is nothing that the 30-06 can't do (if the law allows) but that doesn't mean for some circumstances other cartridges won't do it better. The 9,3x62 is a great round and very capable without destroying a lot of meat.
Kevin Robertson the South African vetinarian and ph has a 62 thats shot over 650 Cape Buffalo .... Elephans and Hyppo has been taken with it by the tons too
I recently purchased a second hand Custom Tikka in 284 win, my Ideal two rifle pairing would be 284win & 9.3x62. 30-06 will do everything i need for big game, live in a region where moose, white tail and black bears are the big game, no real dangerous game; that said there is a cool factor to the 9.3x62. When comparing cartridges of different bullet diameters it's typically best to compare the cartridges bullets by paring them by Sectional Densities to compare performance, ie 180gr vs 250gr, 200gr vs 286gr, 212gr vs 300gr, this compares the cartridges with bullets of equal stature/penetrating characteristics as long as your selecting bullets of similar form factor like btsp or speer points for both; with this your getting better view of range and energy limitation for the cartridges your comparing.
I like your idea, but the problem I have with SD is it changes as soon as the bullet deforms… so essentially instantly. Comparing bullets of similar SDs in the end still kind of comes down to an energy equation. On paper there is no one best way to compare bullet performance.
@@fhckoutdoors I agree the SD doesn't stay constant for the time its travelling thru the Animal, But the distortion to the bullet and change to the SD is consistent in that both bullets and calibers will be affected similarly(both will be distorting) and the method for which your comparing the calibers is all pre animal strike and based on ballistics calculations that don't account for deformation of either bullet, this makes using fair starting points the best way to compare the different caliber sizes. If you were comparing 30-06 to 308 you would decide what they both do with same type/weight of bullet and then decide if you need the extra range/horsepower of the bit larger cased 30-06, you wouldn't say 308 is better because it shots a 150gr bullet faster and flatter then the 30-06 shoots a 220gr round nose, it would be a non sensical comparison as they both can shoot the same bullets.
220s in a 30-06 are underrated for Sambar, it gets a lot more love on plains game in Africa. I do however really like the 9.3x62 after a couple years of hunting with it, Ive shot a few big Sambar with it including one stag with a less than ideal shot, probably 6-8" too far back, and it still put the hurt on, nothing has gone more than 30m, and in my 3.1kg Sako (aka Thor's Hammer), it's comfortable - but ive got a Limbsaver prefit.
@@fhckoutdoors Spot on. Quick question, tell me to fuck of if it's inappropriate, but would you have a recommendation for someone to cerakote a barrel for me near Melbourne? I was a bit silly with wet barrel wraps on my blued Model 70 and got a little surface rust on it and it got a bit scratched in my cleanup. Purely cosmetic, Ive used Birchwood Casey on it but it looks like balls.
@@alberttresslevic914 There are a couple of cerekoters in Melbourne, I just cant remember their names off the top of my head. I use a bloke in Albury, but that might be a bit far for you.
Nope. Every cartridge is a compromise, and that includes this one. Every cartridge will be used in situations where an alternative may well be slightly better. Far too many of us get into cartridge comparisons primarily to boost our egos by justifying our own personal preferences. If you like it, that’s good for you. Hunting is a matter of personal preference and yours are about as valid to me as mine are to you.
Have been using 65.5gr 2209 for 2320fps with 286gr hornady interlocks. The projectiles have to be seated out so far because the load is compressed. The actual capacity to the cannelure is 56 grains. So 2206H is a better load at 55.5gr max. How the hell nosler or nic harvey can get 67 grains max load in there is unbelievable.
@@fhckoutdoors Measured on a mag chrony today. 5 shots. 15 degrees, 9.3x62. Hornady brass, Hornady Interlocks, CCI large rifle primer, 24" barrel, 55gr of 2206H. Max was 2296fps, Min was 2227fps, Average was 2268fps, SD was 25fps. Extraction easy, primers flat but not too flat. Will go to max of 55.5gr which will make it lightly compressed if you are seating to cannelure and should take it to 2300fps. scope was 4 X and was 45mm high at 100m, 120mm low at 200m. 3 shot group at 100m was 38mm and 3 shots was 50mm at 200m but 5 shots was 80mm. Great cartridge without being a barrel burner, powder burner or should burner.
Ive shot triple figure sambar with 3006 220gr Woodleigh RNSP and triple figure witn 165gr nosler ballistic tips. The conclusion is nosler and lighter weight is better bullet. Less drop, more damage, bigger blood trail and less distance before expiring. More meat damage though.
If you are a man you can handle the recoil if you are a poser there is no way. I have one shoot it all the time it is a bad boy and does not kick at all hardly.
Shit mate, lose the grub on your top lip. Just saw a 3 year old video. Could concentrate instead of being distracted by the caterpillar. Lose the tash and about 20 years.😂
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I don't know about Sambar, but the 9.3x62 definitely IS probably the best sporting smokeless cartridge ever designed for the guy that only wants one gun.
Yes sir right along with its ballistic equivalent the 9.3x74R.
Exactly 👌👌👌👍👍👍
True that son.
I’ve used a heap of different cartridges for traditional Sambar hunting scenarios. Hands down, the 9.3x62 Mauser is a tailor made cartridge for this. It’s super accurate and using any soft point 232g to 285g projectile gets the job done quick and effectively. Recoil is similar to a heavy 30/06 load and barely noticeable in the field. Otto Bock produced an excellent cartridge that handled virtually everything in Africa at a price point and action length that farmers could afford. Even today (nearly one and a quarter of a century later) it’s the minimum acceptable cartridge for species such as Cape buffalo….that says a lot about its ability
I picked up an older husqvarna a couple days ago in 9.3x62 and just from the box and a half I've shot from it I already love it and can't wait to test it out on moose here in Ontario
If I could only have two center fire rifles they would be a 6.5x55 and a 9.3x62. I bought both over 20 years ago and never regretted it. Also, the 9.3x62 has a good following in Alaska for the big bears.
I'm pretty sure you'll find a cult following on every continent. It's a great cartridge.
I was gonna say the same thing! 6,5x55 ans 9,3x62 are two excellent choices, and they fit well in a gun with a switch barrel configuration. The 9,3 x62 kicks about the same as a 12 ga shotgun.
Have an old 6.5x55 Husqvarna, 9.3x62 next! 💪
Have a M03 with 6,5x55 and soon a 9,3x62 barrel😊
I got my 9.3x62 about 6mths ago after 20 years of wanting one. and I was pleasantly surprised how nice it is to shoot. More shotgun push than anything.
It's now my favorite.
Hunting everything around here ( western Canada ) with mine, no issues. It doesn’t mangle the meat as bad as my 270 and the animals so far have dropped in their tracks so no searching. I like it as protection from big bears, a lot of my hunting is in grizzly territory although I have never had that issue so far. CZ 550 FS, handloading 286 gr Nosler partitions. Sighted in about 1 1/2” high at 100 yd, hold on the hair out to 300 yd, 1.5-4.4 Leupold scope. It is very hard to fault a 9.3 in the real world.
I have used a CZ550 in 9.3x62 in Africa and all over North America over the last 20 years and can honestly say that this is as close to a perfectly balanced hunting cartridge ever made. If I had to be limited to only one rifle, it would be chambered in the 9.3. A lot of cartridges have better paper ballistics but this guy punches way beyond what the ballistic tables say it should.
Absolutely true mate 💪💪💪👌👌👌👍👍👍
great to see some love for the grand old 9.3x62. i just got one recently and i absolutely love it. the fact that this cartridge is legal for dangerous game in a lot of African countries just goes to show how effective it is, especially with good quality bullets. i'm yet to go and shoot something with mine, but i'm looking forward to it. on top of that, it really doesn't kick that bad. great video as always.
I look forward to hearing when you drop something with it
I live in France and have been using the 9,3x62 (mainly American soft point factory ammo) for 11 years, on roe, boars and red deer. It's awesome, effective and for me has very little recoil - certainly no more than a 12 gauge/bore.
I now use Hornady interlocks. You'll certainly love it! I haven't lost a hit animal (driven) in the past 11 years.
Finally some one not afraid of some recoil! Bon Chance me Amego
@@markwalker4485 8x68s bien plus de recul qu un 9.3
I have a Rossler Titan 6 rifle in 9.3x62 ,its a great calibre for hunting in thick scrub at shorter distances , easy to get loading components for in Australia .
Thanks Ed, a mate I served with back about 40 years ago loved this calibre. He used it on water buffalo up in the cape. Cheers
Lots of people use it for buffalo. It's great with a 300gr woodleigh hydro
I had a 30-06 FN Mauser converted into a 9.2x62 by a Nuremberg gunsmith. Based on an old photo of an African Mauser. It was a great weapon. Later I sold all my guns because I moved abroad. Greetings from Thailand
Hey mate,
I also have a 9.3x62 over here in NZ, Red Stags hate it.
286gn Norma Oryx.
Your honesty is bloody great .
Cheers
I’ve always compared the 9.3x62 with the 35 Whelen. Both fantastic medium bores.
Nice video mate 👍👍👍
9,3x62 Mauser is my favorite.
For me, it's most versatile cartridge.
From roe deer to elephant
NO PROBLEMS.
In long throated CZ-550 you can handload 286gr bullets to 2550 fps without pressure issues.
P.S. Nosler Partition have BC almost .500...
I have a BAR Browning in 9.3x62 and love it.
I’ve been using 9.3x62 lately and love it! 286gn Aframe going at 2450fpsout of my 20” barrel rifle!
I really like my 30-06’s, they have served me really well over the years, but the 9.3 is awesomer!
That said I got my moose this year with my 8x57 200gn accubond going 2550 ish fps !
I’m getting a single shot in 9.3x74r soon and I think it will be great also! I keep my shots to inside 200-250m
My two rifles are the 30-06 & Sako's 9.3x66 (370 Sako Magnum)...with the right load, the 9.3 will push 250gr about the same as a 200gr from the '06...
3200ft/lb on the '06, & about 4100ft/lb on the 370.... The 9.3x62 falls dead in the middle of those two.
Nothing wrong with the 9.3x62 though, would pick it over a 35 Whelan any day.
Easy to find ammo for. Nice bear & moose cartridge.
For reference, the shoulder on the 9.3x62 is moved forward (more than the '06/35 Whelan) about .091", & the 370 Sako is .249" longer.
I had a custom Takedown in 9.3x64 for quite some time, it goes up another level with that round, slightly better than the 375 H&H, but no animal would know the difference. Good Video
My absolute bucket list rifle is a Remington 7600 rebored to 9.3×62. I read an article on the internet about an African hunter who came up with this idea after a close encounter with a wounded lepard. He called it his "Pumpr Thumper".I would set it up with a folding stock and see through scope rings, or off set red dot mount for close in work. That would be one hell of a compact, ass stomping setup, for just about anything on earth within practical range.
Interesting good information. Your comparison really should have been to the 35 Whelen. I have both. My Whelen is a custom job built around a 98 Mauser action. My 9.3x62 is a Husqvarna M640 that I got from a gentleman who grew up hunting in Africa where his father was a government game ranger. Now he lives in the U.S., arranges African safaris and still hunts there often. The 9.3 I got from him was one of his extras. He said he had taken three Cape Buffalo with it in recent years. While not equal to the 375 H&H on paper it seems to be close in effectiveness on dangerous game. He said that in Africa the 9.3x62 is referred to as the European 375. It is not legal for dangerous game in all the African countries but is grandfathered in several countries because its reputation.
Now as to the 9.3x62 Mauser vs the 35 Whelen. The SAAMI MAP for the Whelen is 62,000 PSI. For the 9.3x62 the MAP is only 57,500 PSI. Don’t ask me why, but as such when loaded to maximum pressure the 35 Whelen will propel any equal weight bullet as fast or faster than any safe 9.3x62 load. Woodleigh and some others make high quality .358 diameter bullets up to 310 grains or more. Norma makes 358’s as light as 232 grains. I don’t remember what their heaviest 358 is. Good luck finding any of them. The .008” difference between 9.3mm/0.366” diameter and the 9.09mm/0.358” diameter of the Whelen is statistically and practically insignificant. When both are loaded with 250 grain bullets the useful case capacity for the 9.3x62 is only 0.3 grains larger. When loaded with the 286 grain bullet the useful case capacity of the 9.3x62 is actually 1.8 grains less than the 35 Whelen with the 250 grain bullet. This data is from the most recent Nosler #9 reloading manual.
When compared to the 30-06 the Whelen with a 250 grain Nosler Partition at 2500 fps shoots flatter than the 30-06 with the 220 grain round nose bullet or the Nosler Partition of the same weight with more down range energy. With some bullets 250 grain 35 Whelen at 2500 fps will shoot as flat as the 180 grain 30-06. With 225 grain bullets the Whelen is amazing. The Hornady 200 grain SuperFormance 35 Whelen at 2910 fps out of a 24” barrel equals the 358 Norma Magnum with the same weight bullet. On both ends of the rifle! The 30-06 is very versatile but if you want to get the most out of those .308 diameter 200+ grain bullets you might as well step up to the 300 Win Mag, 308 Norma Magnum or my favorite the 300 H&H.
The 9.3x62 is probably best with a heavy constructed 286 grain or heavier bullet on dangerous game or elk sized game or the big bears in North America. The problem is those bullets are really too heavy constructed for Whitetails or Mule Deer. On the other hand the 285 grain thin jacketed Privi Partisan bullet at around 2300 fps work great because they expand well on those thin skinned species. I use a real gunsmith who actually builds rifles and doesn’t just slap together AR’s from parts. He turned me on to the high quality PPU brass. I have a source right now to get the factory PPU ammunition at a really good price. The old Remington Core-Lokt load will work fine if you can find any without having to get a second mortgage on your home. The old Remington was notorious for not meeting its advertised velocities. I don’t know if the new Remington ammo under new ownership and new management is any better. After all above said, the 35 Whelen and the 9.3x62 Mauser are really two peas in a pod. There is no practical difference between them. Happy hunting boys and girls!😊
35 Whelen and 9.3x62 being so similar is exactly why I didnt compare them.
Can you shoot 35 Whelen out of a 9mm mauser ?
@@ericschulze5641 If you mean 9.3x62 Mauser rifle I certainly would not advise it. The 9.3x62 case is larger with several different dimensions. You could have a 35 Whelen case rupture in the 9.3x62 because the case would not be properly seated against the chamber walls. The Whelen bullet is 0.358” diameter vs 0.366” for the Mauser. Even if you did manage to chamber a round and fire it without the case rupturing, the 0.008” smaller diameter bullet of the Whelen would rattle through the bore of the Mauser with extremely poor accuracy in m opinion. The 35 Whelen case is based directly on the 30-06 Springfield and as such 35 Whelen cases can be formed from 30-06 with the proper die sets. In a pinch 9.3x62 cases can be formed from 30-06 cases but it’s not a simple process and the results will be less than spectacular. The 9x25 aka 9mm Mauser Export was a pistol cartridge developed around 1904 for the C96 Mauser pistol and no way related to the 9.3x62 or 35 Whelen cartridges.
9mm mauser is a heavy game load & about 3 thousandths smaller in diameter and 1 thousandth shorter than the Whelan
@@ericschulze5641 Not familiar at all. Had to look it up. What I found said indistinguishable ballisticly but not dimensionally from 9x56 Mannlicher-Schoenauer. Not even listed under SAAMI. CIP rates it 41000 psi or 36000 cup. Even if it would chamber, no way in Hell would I try to shoot 35 Whelen in any action chambered for 9x56. You would be better off to just buy a 35 Whelen, 8x57, 9.3 x 57 or 9.3x62. All of those better performers than 9x56. You would probably have to have custom dies made for the 9x56 unless you already have them. Even 9.3 x 57 is hard to find but more likely to find commercial already made dies. At least 8x57 brass and dies not hard to find as a start for 9.3x57. Same with 30-06 for 35 Whelen.
Absolutely brilliant cartridge 👍👍
One of the best!
I've always liked it.
9.3x62 is a great cartridge, but if you want to get serious try the 9.3X64 Brenneke. Fits into a standard length action that will normally handle a 30-06 but is the European equivalent to the 375 H&H. Mine is built on a P14 action with a Walther barrel and groups 25mm at 100m.
I have to agree with you , the 9.3x62 is the better sambar cartridge.
The 45/70 is a very popular cartridge for elk and Sambar. The 9.3x62 and its cousin the 9.3x57 are also very good for these big deer.
Ooo 9,3x57 "the potato thrower"👍🏻
No worse than a .35 Whelen @@stefanjohansson6670
You need a foldable directors chair and trestle table from bunnings for those bush sight ins. Directors chair is flat and you don't sink like a camp chair. Knees get to old for going up and down shooting😂
I have a table and chair, I just didnt take it because I'm an idiot.
@@fhckoutdoors too excited to shoot, happens to us all
a bit of a tip for anyone handloading for 9.3 x 62, you can fire form 30-06 brass into 9.3 x 62 you just need to trim it back by about a mill.
How do you address the headspace difference when using 30-06 brass - isn't the 9.3x62 longer to the case shoulder?
@@feralhunters once it's fire formed and trimmed it works fine
Well it's true that there literally is nothing that the 30-06 can't do (if the law allows) but that doesn't mean for some circumstances other cartridges won't do it better. The 9,3x62 is a great round and very capable without destroying a lot of meat.
Kevin Robertson the South African vetinarian and ph has a 62 thats shot over 650 Cape Buffalo .... Elephans and Hyppo has been taken with it by the tons too
I recently purchased a second hand Custom Tikka in 284 win, my Ideal two rifle pairing would be 284win & 9.3x62. 30-06 will do everything i need for big game, live in a region where moose, white tail and black bears are the big game, no real dangerous game; that said there is a cool factor to the 9.3x62. When comparing cartridges of different bullet diameters it's typically best to compare the cartridges bullets by paring them by Sectional Densities to compare performance, ie 180gr vs 250gr, 200gr vs 286gr, 212gr vs 300gr, this compares the cartridges with bullets of equal stature/penetrating characteristics as long as your selecting bullets of similar form factor like btsp or speer points for both; with this your getting better view of range and energy limitation for the cartridges your comparing.
I like your idea, but the problem I have with SD is it changes as soon as the bullet deforms… so essentially instantly. Comparing bullets of similar SDs in the end still kind of comes down to an energy equation. On paper there is no one best way to compare bullet performance.
@@fhckoutdoors I agree the SD doesn't stay constant for the time its travelling thru the Animal, But the distortion to the bullet and change to the SD is consistent in that both bullets and calibers will be affected similarly(both will be distorting) and the method for which your comparing the calibers is all pre animal strike and based on ballistics calculations that don't account for deformation of either bullet, this makes using fair starting points the best way to compare the different caliber sizes. If you were comparing 30-06 to 308 you would decide what they both do with same type/weight of bullet and then decide if you need the extra range/horsepower of the bit larger cased 30-06, you wouldn't
say 308 is better because it shots a 150gr bullet faster and flatter then the 30-06 shoots a 220gr round nose, it would be a non sensical comparison as they both can shoot the same bullets.
You should put it up against a 35 Whelen or 35 Whelen AI. That’s probably a better match. Thanks, for the video!
Load up the 208gn ELDM into that '06 and bring the pain.
Who makes the rifle you own in 9.3 x62 ?
220s in a 30-06 are underrated for Sambar, it gets a lot more love on plains game in Africa.
I do however really like the 9.3x62 after a couple years of hunting with it, Ive shot a few big Sambar with it including one stag with a less than ideal shot, probably 6-8" too far back, and it still put the hurt on, nothing has gone more than 30m, and in my 3.1kg Sako (aka Thor's Hammer), it's comfortable - but ive got a Limbsaver prefit.
I think the people who are using 220s in 30-06 are the ones who know what they are doing. Everyone else is buying factory 180s.
@@fhckoutdoors Spot on.
Quick question, tell me to fuck of if it's inappropriate, but would you have a recommendation for someone to cerakote a barrel for me near Melbourne?
I was a bit silly with wet barrel wraps on my blued Model 70 and got a little surface rust on it and it got a bit scratched in my cleanup.
Purely cosmetic, Ive used Birchwood Casey on it but it looks like balls.
@@alberttresslevic914 There are a couple of cerekoters in Melbourne, I just cant remember their names off the top of my head. I use a bloke in Albury, but that might be a bit far for you.
@@fhckoutdoors All good mate cheers
@@alberttresslevic914 Mialls have cerakoted all my barrels.
Personally, I'd use a 50 bmg.
Will this work for for brown bear?
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Nope.
Every cartridge is a compromise, and that includes this one. Every cartridge will be used in situations where an alternative may well be slightly better.
Far too many of us get into cartridge comparisons primarily to boost our egos by justifying our own personal preferences.
If you like it, that’s good for you. Hunting is a matter of personal preference and yours are about as valid to me as mine are to you.
Have been using 65.5gr 2209 for 2320fps with 286gr hornady interlocks. The projectiles have to be seated out so far because the load is compressed. The actual capacity to the cannelure is 56 grains. So 2206H is a better load at 55.5gr max. How the hell nosler or nic harvey can get 67 grains max load in there is unbelievable.
What velocity are you getting with 2206H?
@fhuckoutdoors I'm only changing this week so won't know until I get to range and run them over the chrony
@@mchughcb Interested to see how you go.
@@fhckoutdoors Measured on a mag chrony today. 5 shots. 15 degrees, 9.3x62. Hornady brass, Hornady Interlocks, CCI large rifle primer, 24" barrel, 55gr of 2206H. Max was 2296fps, Min was 2227fps, Average was 2268fps, SD was 25fps. Extraction easy, primers flat but not too flat. Will go to max of 55.5gr which will make it lightly compressed if you are seating to cannelure and should take it to 2300fps. scope was 4 X and was 45mm high at 100m, 120mm low at 200m. 3 shot group at 100m was 38mm and 3 shots was 50mm at 200m but 5 shots was 80mm. Great cartridge without being a barrel burner, powder burner or should burner.
@@mchughcb Thats awesome. Thanks for getting back to me
Ive shot triple figure sambar with 3006 220gr Woodleigh RNSP and triple figure witn 165gr nosler ballistic tips. The conclusion is nosler and lighter weight is better bullet. Less drop, more damage, bigger blood trail and less distance before expiring. More meat damage though.
If you are a man you can handle the recoil if you are a poser there is no way. I have one shoot it all the time it is a bad boy and does not kick at all hardly.
Shit mate, lose the grub on your top lip. Just saw a 3 year old video. Could concentrate instead of being distracted by the caterpillar. Lose the tash and about 20 years.😂
No.