Polish saber is always a treat to watch, and your natural dynamic footwork and bladework are fantastic. Props to the messer guy for overcoming the reach disadvantage, pressing the distance, and holding his own.
Mad respect, you swing this as if it was sport sabre. Funny though, I've recently learned that these sabers aren't similar to used by polish hussars, but these are hungarian hussar sabers :D It gets really confusing since what decide about this is very little detail about handle curvature.
Well it seems I'll be playing a role of Actually Guy but you are right and wrong. Right because yeah, it isn't polish HUSSAR saber but wrong because it still is made in style of so called Hungarian - Polish sabers (so sabers made in Polish-Lithuaniam Commonwealth but in hungarian style) , which actually were more popular and used longer than "classical" hussar sabers. So yeah saber on video looks hungarian but it's stil polish saber. And judging by the look of it this particular saber on video was made in todays Poland, by Polish guy whose name is Chodkiewicz.😉
The hussar saber was a weapon used at the very end; after crushing the lance, the hussar had a koncerz and obuszek at his disposal. The saber was not used for individual duels on foot, but was used to strike blows from the saddle. Cutting force and speed are increased with a thumb ring. It was a "working" saber, so it was called black in contrast
@@DutchPatterson you probably didn't see Ukrainians :D not that many unfortunately, but classical Polish sabre to Cossack sabre technique is what British naval officer to Johny Depp's Jack Sparrow :D
I'm a new subscriber. It's amazing to me to watch someone use a tool at a professional level. Like, yeah, we play with swords and whatnot, but you go to work with a sword and show how it's supposed to be used. It's excellent, and I applaud you
This style looks very nice 😎 Where did you learn polish sabre? From the book from Richard Marsden? Also did you have a chance to fence against people that do british military sabre? If yes, how do these styles compare?
Do you have recommendations for gloves to use with that saber? I assume that's the Hungarian saber from Purpleheart Armory, I have the same one but the only gloves I have are padded gloves for rapier and other light weapons, which are deeply insufficient, and SPES heavies which don't fully fit through the sword's guard and make it impossible to hold properly.
Have you considered Red Dragons or Infinity Gloves? The latter might be too large as well, but they still aren't as large as lobster claws so they might fit.
Please correct me if wrong, but the polish saber here looks too light. Wouldnt you have to flow through with each cut rather than immediately pull back instead ?
No, that's a stylistic preference. The Sabre is a Black from Ensifer if you wanna check the specs. It's better not to wind up or follow through. Economy of motion is key
I get whole training thing and all but a sabre was heavy. Different movement. In couple of german and turkish sources it said to have split a head of a fullly mounted knight. In turkish to have split couple of heads at the same time. Normal man, meaning without training, couldnt even hold it straight for one minute. That tells what took people to carry zwiehanders or claymores.
Look if there are HEMA-Clubs in you region. Be advised that maybe needing to drive an hour is in your Region in this regard ;). When there aren´t any clubs try finding people that might be interested in this sport and build a club yourself. For Sources towards this: Sabre try looking for military sabre on youtube or military sabre literature on google. Sorry not my strong suit so not much i can tell you about this. For Longsword try sources from the Peter von Danzig Fechtbuch in your preferred language or Kunst des Fechtens (The art of fencing) from Joachim Meyer. For Langes Messer there are sources from Leckküchner for this. For a lot of weapons you only need to know the terminology to be able to look up videos here on youtube. For the start i would really recommend watching a few of these for the preferred weapontype. I hope i could help you.
إن حركاتك أثناء المبارزة سلسة جدا وممتعة، أتساءل إذا ما كانت رياضتكم تسمح باستعمال سيوف عربية بما أنها تشبه إلى حد بعيد شكل السيف البولوني، تحيتي لك صديقي، من الجزائر
The guy using the messer dosen't seem to use it in the way that was described by the manuscripts. I think it would have been more effective to do more binding and winding against the saber. Especially in the ways Lecküchnner used it.
But given the way that the "polish fencer" is using the sabre, it has no benefit to the messer user to seek the bind if he wants to preserve his arm. That's why in military sabre fencing rarely there is any bind, and when there is, it's really brief.
@@18ps3anos But if the messer guy used the thrusts that are seen in leckuchnner, he would easily get hit covered thrust. Also, passing foot against any sort of military saber, can be quite effective, especially with a Zornhuat.
@@iantheduellist "he would easily get hit covered thrust." Not in my experience, specially if you initiate that as soon as you get into measure, with barely any blade feel.
@@18ps3anos Against miltary saberists, myself inculded, I find covered thrusts without any blade contact quite easy to perform, especially if you're using a heavier blade with passing foot work.
Yes, he would benefit greatly from forcing a bind, just exchanging cuts like this is a method of fencing with messer (the long range gameplan such as Lemstucke and Ansetzen etc) but forcing the bind and closing would greatly limit the opponent's ability to cut to his arms and legs.
Обожаю старую технику фехтования на польской сабле. Не хватает кольчужных или ламелярных наручей, но и так аутенчичнинько. ruclips.net/video/ljExTEPNFnM/видео.html
Polish saber is always a treat to watch, and your natural dynamic footwork and bladework are fantastic. Props to the messer guy for overcoming the reach disadvantage, pressing the distance, and holding his own.
Mad respect, you swing this as if it was sport sabre. Funny though, I've recently learned that these sabers aren't similar to used by polish hussars, but these are hungarian hussar sabers :D It gets really confusing since what decide about this is very little detail about handle curvature.
Well it seems I'll be playing a role of Actually Guy but you are right and wrong. Right because yeah, it isn't polish HUSSAR saber but wrong because it still is made in style of so called Hungarian - Polish sabers (so sabers made in Polish-Lithuaniam Commonwealth but in hungarian style) , which actually were more popular and used longer than "classical" hussar sabers. So yeah saber on video looks hungarian but it's stil polish saber. And judging by the look of it this particular saber on video was made in todays Poland, by Polish guy whose name is Chodkiewicz.😉
The person in blue is using a Messer and using Messer techniques
The hussar saber was a weapon used at the very end; after crushing the lance, the hussar had a koncerz and obuszek at his disposal. The saber was not used for individual duels on foot, but was used to strike blows from the saddle. Cutting force and speed are increased with a thumb ring. It was a "working" saber, so it was called black in contrast
this is the kind of fencing that should be in the Olympics
The Sabre fencer ist amazing to watch. Very good 360 control of his blade. Enjoyed watching. Respekt to both fencers.
you're so german xd
@@Placeholder333 xD
That exchange at 35 seconds was absolutely amazing
Sabre fencer gives off this Cossack vibe of a bit reckless and more flashy style compared to the composed style of the Polish military.
Have you seen Polish dudes sparring? They crazy
@@DutchPatterson you probably didn't see Ukrainians :D not that many unfortunately, but classical Polish sabre to Cossack sabre technique is what British naval officer to Johny Depp's Jack Sparrow :D
I love the footwork and dynamic/active style of this.
The footwork is amazing! I especially like the red one's footwork and "style". Looks cool!
I'm a new subscriber. It's amazing to me to watch someone use a tool at a professional level. Like, yeah, we play with swords and whatnot, but you go to work with a sword and show how it's supposed to be used. It's excellent, and I applaud you
This style looks very nice 😎
Where did you learn polish sabre? From the book from Richard Marsden? Also did you have a chance to fence against people that do british military sabre? If yes, how do these styles compare?
Beautiful! Looks like something out of a movie
New sub, That was amazing to watch , amazing skills
Very graceful, I like it
Do you have recommendations for gloves to use with that saber? I assume that's the Hungarian saber from Purpleheart Armory, I have the same one but the only gloves I have are padded gloves for rapier and other light weapons, which are deeply insufficient, and SPES heavies which don't fully fit through the sword's guard and make it impossible to hold properly.
Have you considered Red Dragons or Infinity Gloves? The latter might be too large as well, but they still aren't as large as lobster claws so they might fit.
Hellish Quart sent me here
i never know that we had this kind of sport too
Please correct me if wrong, but the polish saber here looks too light. Wouldnt you have to flow through with each cut rather than immediately pull back instead ?
No, that's a stylistic preference. The Sabre is a Black from Ensifer if you wanna check the specs. It's better not to wind up or follow through. Economy of motion is key
I get whole training thing and all but a sabre was heavy. Different movement. In couple of german and turkish sources it said to have split a head of a fullly mounted knight. In turkish to have split couple of heads at the same time. Normal man, meaning without training, couldnt even hold it straight for one minute. That tells what took people to carry zwiehanders or claymores.
seems like a fun sport to get into, how do you start it?
Look if there are HEMA-Clubs in you region. Be advised that maybe needing to drive an hour is in your Region in this regard ;). When there aren´t any clubs try finding people that might be interested in this sport and build a club yourself. For Sources towards this: Sabre try looking for military sabre on youtube or military sabre literature on google. Sorry not my strong suit so not much i can tell you about this.
For Longsword try sources from the Peter von Danzig Fechtbuch in your preferred language or Kunst des Fechtens (The art of fencing) from Joachim Meyer.
For Langes Messer there are sources from Leckküchner for this.
For a lot of weapons you only need to know the terminology to be able to look up videos here on youtube. For the start i would really recommend watching a few of these for the preferred weapontype.
I hope i could help you.
Hi man, great video! I just wanted to ask about your saber from Ensifer. How is it going now ? Do you still like it ?
إن حركاتك أثناء المبارزة سلسة جدا وممتعة، أتساءل إذا ما كانت رياضتكم تسمح باستعمال سيوف عربية بما أنها تشبه إلى حد بعيد شكل السيف البولوني، تحيتي لك صديقي، من الجزائر
Are they replica swords as apposed to made-for-sparring swords?
The guy using the messer dosen't seem to use it in the way that was described by the manuscripts. I think it would have been more effective to do more binding and winding against the saber. Especially in the ways Lecküchnner used it.
But given the way that the "polish fencer" is using the sabre, it has no benefit to the messer user to seek the bind if he wants to preserve his arm. That's why in military sabre fencing rarely there is any bind, and when there is, it's really brief.
@@18ps3anos But if the messer guy used the thrusts that are seen in leckuchnner, he would easily get hit covered thrust. Also, passing foot against any sort of military saber, can be quite effective, especially with a Zornhuat.
@@iantheduellist "he would easily get hit covered thrust." Not in my experience, specially if you initiate that as soon as you get into measure, with barely any blade feel.
@@18ps3anos Against miltary saberists, myself inculded, I find covered thrusts without any blade contact quite easy to perform, especially if you're using a heavier blade with passing foot work.
Yes, he would benefit greatly from forcing a bind, just exchanging cuts like this is a method of fencing with messer (the long range gameplan such as Lemstucke and Ansetzen etc) but forcing the bind and closing would greatly limit the opponent's ability to cut to his arms and legs.
Pretty nice, what is song's name?
Romeo by Nilived
Nice bout! Where did you get those pants ?
Omg, polish saber is gorgeous here. I want to learn it, but there is not a single teacher in Russia. Or I just don't know about them.
The thing is that the movements in Polish Cross-Cutting Art look different
yo what pants are those???? they're sick af
nice, but a bit too liniar. circular movements generally defeat static and liniar opponents
Where y'all located?
flashy but effective? hmmm
Ask my medals 🏅
@@FalseEdgeHEMA sure ok, hema medals, how effective is this flashy fighting in a practical sword fight?
@@KorEditinghow many practical sword fights do you find yourself in these days?
Polska sztuka krzyżowa - ruclips.net/video/oOBA2FQRqfU/видео.html&ab_channel=SieniawskiFencing
Southpaw Vs Rightie
Polish sabre guy does a lot of the thing that reminds me of that trope with katana users returning it to scabbard to strike again
Wow
1:10 *bonk*
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since when is polish? sabre made in hungary at 600 from avar rapier. even the name com from hungarian name: szablya what mean ~it cut.
Обожаю старую технику фехтования на польской сабле. Не хватает кольчужных или ламелярных наручей, но и так аутенчичнинько.
ruclips.net/video/ljExTEPNFnM/видео.html
What a gloves uses man with sabre?
in this video, Sparring Glove Mittens