As an amateur Photographer (5 Years.) In my opinion, you don't have to have a Great Expensive camera to get the job done. It doesn't matter if you have a Nikon D3200 or a Nikon D5. It's all about how you see the world, and how you capture it.
depends on what you are doing. Yes you can take good photos with a less expensive camera (see cheap camera challenge) but a more advanced camera is often more versatile, more rugged, and has (slightly) better picture quality. These extra features may not matter much of the time, but when you need them, you need them...
This may not be the case, but I feel like if someone that didn't know cameras hired a photographer and they showed up with a mirror-less system, the client would think its a point and shoot, based off its appearance, and wouldn't be satisfied. And in turn, if they came with a full frame dslr with a large lense, the client would consider them much more professional. The images could be identical, but the client probably wouldn't understand.
+Appelcaster That's a good point, perception is important to consider. If you use a mirrorless system it may be worth explaining to clients a bit of the technical details in some situations.
Build a huge frame to put around the mirrorless camera and make sure it weighs about 1 1/2 pounds more than the mirrorless camera. Then you can just have the customer hold it for a minute and they'll be convinced you are a pro ... ho hum.
Being a first time camera buyer, I went for the mirrorless system (namely the sony a6000) even though I wanted more lens selection. To my surprise everything about it is better than what I had expected and even the image quality is far more impressive than what I saw others can do with their DSLR. In my opinion even though Sony/ any other mirrorless systems have less lens selection and slightly more expensive, the glass never fails to impress so I suggest anyone who are keen enthusiast to go mirrorless.
I've heard a lot of people bashing DSLR users since these mirrorless cameras came about. "DSLR's are out of style & behind in times. Only true professionals use Mirrorless cameras." I looked up this video to compare because I'm a beginner photographer, I love DSLR cameras and don't have an issue with mine.... I see your camera & equipment as a personal preference. I feel like alot of those that bash DSLR users are just hipster posers that don't have a damn clue... they just want the newest trending thing & to brag about what they have, while putting others down because "they aren't trendy & following the crowd" This is just my opinion though. Every photographer is different and prefers different techniques and equipment. Most of us shoot because it's a passion.... not because it's a trendy thing.
+Brice Deylac - Many times the comments do compliment the vid, on any subject. But most of the time you have to weed through nutbags that are simply there to engage in mindless pissin matches about brands, tech, styles, personal superiority...etc. "you're an idiot, I'm a genius" and on, and on...lol Very strange...
GH4 button layout allows you to work camera without the menu. Micro Four Thirds has over 60 lenses in their collection. A lot of good quality selection. GH4 can shoot over 4 hours on one battery. Battery life is improving greatly on mirrorless. You keep mentioning recording limit but the GH4 has no limit in the US. Now the GH4r will also have no limit. You never spoke about 4K. Why? Overall like your breakdown but a few facts that need to be checked. Please keep up the great videos.
+Juan Ortiz yeah he's got a point, you can also get adapters as well but that just makes it more complicated. and some people dont want the hassle as well as if you go with sony for auto focus that just makes it redundant unless you have an adapter that has the focusing within it which is expensive.
+Jared Polin I understand it being quick but you stated things as facts and will have some thinking incorrectly about the systems. Stating that there's not enough glass for mirrorless or not enough buttons on mirrorless. That no camera can record more than 30 minutes or battery life is low on mirrorless. This is misinformation included within your "basics". I just think that the wording is what needs to be corrected so that there is no false information given out.
+Juan Ortiz sounds like you just had a GH4-gasm haha, anyways, 4k is in both types of camera so if they both have the same sensor sizes and similar pricing then video quality comes down to brand an model rather than type of camera and to be fair his facts aren't hugely wrong. so i think his video has essentially reached its goal in telling the main differences but the gh4 is pretty good all the same
You uploaded this video on Sept. 14,. 2015. Would you please update this for 2018? Secondly, would you please go into a little more depth about whether what you see on the DSLR and the mirrorless camera viewfinder or screen is what you will get when you print the photo?
Would you please with all the experience that you have as a professional photographer tell me which has a much better quality wise in resolution and true color rendering either Nikon D850, Nikon D500 or any of the new Sony A series. I currently have a Nikon D500 thinking about switching to Nikon D850 or maybe a Sony A series. Thanks
As far as using mirrorless for video, I think it's also worth noting that some of them (namely Sony, excluding the a7s) overheat after prolonged use which makes a big difference for interview or event video people. My Sony a6000, besides overheating after two 29min takes, is worse with short clips in succession.
In Europe, they tax "camcoders", and define a camcoder as anything that can shoot 30min+ video. So just about every still camera, excepting the Panasonic GH4 and GH5, have this shooting limit, even when sold in the USA. And yes, that makes absolutely no sense, given that they're tweaking the software for US use anyway.
i love the way you say froknowsphotos jared..and your hairstyle..and the way you present your videos..your information is crisp,to the point and always helpful..this is my favourite photography channel..thanks n love
Can I just say how refreshing it is to be given advice regarding which is best for the consumer with simple, clear and concise facts and advice. Thank you, Jared Polin.
It's getting to the point to where it isn't about mirrorless or DSLR's, it's just about cameras. Especially when it comes to things like the A7Rii. Hopefully Nikon will have a sensor like that soon. But even if they do, we have to wonder if they will have the 4k along with it. 3 grand for that camera is a really cheap price. I had the original A7R, but I went back to Canon for now. But I'd go back to Sony in the future once I feel like it's at the point I'd want to be there. I'm not as fast with them as I am DSLR's.
It's not about mirrorless or DSLR at this point to me, and in the future it will be less and less. The Nikon D810 is not the same sensor as the Sony A7R. I don't care if something is mirrorless as long as it has fast auto focus, the only difference... well is the mirror. I suspect Nikon's next D800 series will be 42 megapixels with a sensor similar to the A7R. Hopefully it will have 4k. Really just depends on who you are. Right now, I still like DSLR's. However I owned the original 36 MP A7R for a year. It was nice but the auto focus and ergonomics weren't there. They seem to have the auto focus down a lot better. They don't have 2.8 zooms, but I don't mind being a prime guy. The only zoom I need is the 16-35, then 55, then 85 or 90, and possibly 135. The 135 is the only one Sony hasn't came out with yet. But most people like their zooms, which will keep some people on the DSLR side. Ergonomics, battery life, etc also does. But it really is just about cameras. Once they can both do the same thing equally well, it's just going to be about which camera suits you more than if it has a mirror or not.
+nagol5178 I'll be interesting to see if, and if so, when, Nikon gets any of the new Sony sensors. Right now, Sony's the only company with a full-frame BSI sensor (two, actually), and they haven't licensed these yet. Sony definitely wants to be the Intel of camera sensors, but they're also clearly interested in challenging Nikon and Canon in the serious camera market. It'll be interesting to see which one dominates.
I liked this video, but I honestly think you should have mentioned the mirrorless cameras ability to attach almost any kind of lens with adapters because of the short distance to the sensor from the mount. This gives a much larger choice of lenses for mirrorless cameras - with the caveat that you'll most likely have to shoot on full manual! This would probably be important for some people, so I really think this should have been in the video.
thank you jared. this is my first foray into digital slrs. Up until now I've been using the manual slrs with film. Your video has really cleared a lot up for me. I am grateful
I just can't not look at the traffic lights on the wall! I am a traffic engineer myself, and I have a big collection of old signal heads back home. But I haven't gotten around yet to make a program circuit for them... Looks so cool :3
One of your better videos Jared. With the new glass that Sony is introducing, mirrorless are not as compact once you get the large sized lensed attached.
Crazy!! To think 6 years later, Mirrorless have fixed all the flaws they had before and have now destroyed DSLR cameras. Mirrorless have unlocked new potential in cameras that we have never seen before especially the Sony a7Siii, Canon R5, Sony a7iii, Sony a7Riv, Canon R6 and now the superb Sony A1. There is no point in getting a Canon 5D mark iv as the Canon R6 offers so much more features even though it only has a 20 mega pixel sensor. DSLR tech has reach its limits too so it can never meet the Mirrorless in the middle ground ever again as Mirrorless is too far ahead.
Great review of both systems. Honestly when you get past how both devices work, it becomes a toss up. Example, Low Light... Saying DSLRs are better at low light, while having a A7 to your left, was a little tongue in cheek.
Love the ongoing argument about Auto-Focus speed. I use a Canon DSLR c/w Sigma f2.8 Zooms and I don't recall any of them ever being used in Auto-Focus. I'll bet I can out-focus any Auto system; and I don't need to re-compose a shot; (and I always use a hand-held meter).
Excellent explanation fro as always...You are one of three my favourite channels on youtube.I learn a lot from you.Thanks a lot!I would glad to meet you one day in real life!If you come in london just make an appointment!Cheers
I think what you missed, as many do, is that one of the key benefits of mirrorless is the ability to shoot in manual mode with manual focus. If you want to shoot in auto with autofocus then maybe go with the old school dslr. But if you want to have more artistic control, go with the technology of the future and choose mirrorless. I'd love to see a comparison video that shows off the key features of mirrorless that puts it leaps and bounds ahead of dslr for full manual control (focus peaking and a true live view, easier adjustments of A/SS/ISO)
+Matt Wood you can shoot in Manual mode with manual focus on any DSLR. wtf are you talking about, as a matter of fact, on many DSLRs you go to live view mode and bypass the mirror.
This video helped to me to understand more about cameras and what I purchased. I knew I wanted to start making films so I purchased a Panasonic G85 after reviewing the G7. Knew it was mirrorless but had no clue about micro 4/3, apc and full frame sensors.
I've been a dslr user since the days of film.. I have finally given the mirrorless a try, and OMG I hate that I waited so long... I prefer a bigger camera, but now I love the mirrorless. I am waiting for the day when they merge to make the ultimate combo..
Hi Froknowsphoto, just wanted to say i watched this episode with the assistance of a doob and at 5:19 i spat out my coffee in a fit of laughter. good times
A DSLR Gets a photo from the lens, not above or from the sides, and they can have alignment and focusing systems, and sometimes a HUD. They also fit your hand easier.
Olympus was first with mirrorless in 2009. Another trend in tech set by Oly . . . they also were first with in-body image stabilization. What was required to really succeed was a good EVF, which are finally out there. However, the optical view through my Pentax 645z blows the Olympus OMD finder away . . .
Nice break down of the major points. One can always pick on details, but there's no way to include all the fine detail and exceptions in such a short video. Hopefully we'll see some more in-depth videos as well, in the usual informative yet entertaining form. BTW, what happened with the Olympus E-M1? You had to return it already?
Seeing this video just solidified my happiness with my M6 Mirrorless. I love it for vlogging and I even use it to produce professional quality video for clients. Personally if your a vlogger, Mirrorless is the way to go.
I think both systems are great. Also you have to take in consideration rental if you thinking to do professional work you may will have to rent additional camera body or lenses like 70-200 if you can't afford it in the beginning. Usually you can found way more companies renting Nikon and Canon glass and they holding bigger stock for peak season..
Hey Jared the a6000 is really great in low light situations but as far as quality of the pictures itself i will go with an slr camera. I like bringing a mirrorless on trips and when it comes to paid shoots i will stick with an slr.
I'm kind of over the RUclipsrs who think they have to sell their videos like television car salesmen. I never subscribe to guys like this... give me a low key, easy going, relaxed presenter with great content any day of the week. I appreciate the time and effort, but, really... just chill.
Pentax DSLRs have in-body image stabilization. EVFs have disadvantages as well, for instance, there can be lag and a stuttering display, and in low ligt the eye has to deal with a bright EVF display. Most mirrorless cameras are much slower to start up than DSLRs and many have much poorer battery life.
So Jared, this is a great professionally delivered video. It outlines the differences and simularities of both systems. I, currently, am sticking to MFT. Smuchly thanks mate.
Lens availability is really not an issue for mirrorless. They have an adaptor for any kind of lens these days. If you're looking at one of theses to shoot video, don't even bother with a mirror system. Sony A7Sii smokes all these rigs when it comes to image, form factor, audio, and creative control. Unless you already own a bunch of micro 4/3 lenses, I'd steer clear of a 4/3 sensor camera. If I've learned one thing in doing this for 30 years is, buy for the future not in the moment. Large sensor mirrorless is where you want to be. You may not think so now but once you start to use one you'll wonder what took you so long.
The moment I saw this video's title I thought, hey he's trying out the sony line COOL! But as I watched this, I noticed that you basically look at the sony line as a kids toy. Sony is awesome, not as good as Nikon and Canon but here are some of the reasons why. 1. They adopted minolta lens. These lens are great and cheaper in price. AND THEY HAVE SIGMA LENS. 2. Sony has adapters just incase you need to use a Nikon or Canon lens. 3. I've produced GREAT IMAGES with Sony. It has a stable shot (because I tend to shake)..the loss in light tends to bring in some nice colors. I like this feature. 4. The DSLR to DSLT also converted the batteries to DSLT. I'm not sure about the Mirrorless but I'm sure they won't screw you over. Of course with the exception of loss of light, is there really any difference if you are shooting in manual mode? I can dial in all of my settings and get a proper exposure (even easier now with the mirrorless). I honestly feel like if you are use to one camera line, stick to it. Nikon person, probably shouldn't be using Sony or Canon.
If you look at the major players the IS or VR are in the lenses but one of the older manufacturers Pentax aka Ricoh has SR (shake reduction) in the body. Just an FYI
Jared, what you said about autofocus in video mode about DSLRs is inaccurate. I bought the Canon 70D for shooting videos with an STM lens and it's absolutely flawless. You don't get that autofocus accuracy in video mode with a GH4.
As always, Jared, well presented and all choices covered. I am staying with my D4 and D800 with all the Fx lenses. I shoot without cards straight to an HDMI out to HDMI in of an Atomos with no time limit beyond the SSD in the 10bit ProRes HQ. Photos are 14 bit RAW and I cannot see myself changing away from this combination...
Thanks for the video man! Straight to the point! Owning a D750 looks like DSLR is becoming the new "old school" like on the film days against the DSRL, we'll see how far does the Mirrorless goes!
are you reading notes next to the camera when you record? i keep seeing your eyes tracking back and forth to towards the lens and off to the side slightly
Mr. Polin, what happened to mention of the Fuji X interchangeable lens system. Sony was represented and sure the Fuji X100 was, but that is not representational. The Fuji X system does have more lens choices than Sony last I checked. In addition micro four thirds was not mentioned unless I missed it. It would be helpful and informative to at least mention or do a graphic if you do not have the camera in hand since it looked like it was a very narrow selection. Perhaps adding to go to B&H Photo or Adorama and use the filtering system their website has to see all the products.
the lens depends on the size of the sensor so a 70-200 f/2.8 on a dslr would be the same size on a mirrorless camera of equivalent sensor size, Jared stated that the lenses are smaller which is wrong.
Picked up a Sony A5000, APS-C sensor, shutter speed 1/4000, ISO range 100-16,000, 20.4 MP, kit lens is 16-50 mm, 180 degree LCD so far a great little sub $400 compact camera
a really big thing you are not talking about is the flange focal distance. mirrorless cameras in general have a way smaller ffd because there is no need to house a mirror in between the flange and the sensor. this sounds like a techie talk but it has a huge influence when you are choosing your lenses. the smaller the ffd the more lenses you can use. let me be very clear on this point, i am talking about manual lenses here. but when you i.e. compare a leica r camera and a sony a7 then you will quickly find out that you can not use any lens on a leica r that is not a leica r lens. while on a sony a7 you can use more or less what ever brand you like. leica, nikon, canon, it will all work perfectly. so the only thing you need to take care about is pure lens quality, and because it is all manual anyway you can pick the best glass for no money at all. a leica r 90mm/2.0 is below 500$, a nikon 35/1.4 is about 600$, i have no clue about canon but i guess they had a good lens in the past too. so if you care about quality, or if you don't have money or if you only want to shoot video, where mostly you don't want autofocus anyway, this small ffd is a huge benefit. i hope ffd is the correct term for it in german it is "auflagemaß" i am talking about.
I think we should should all shoot with what gives us pleasure and gets us out with our camera whatever type they are. I find how partisan people can become over what type of camera, media, manufacturer or even the subjects people choose doesn't serve any true purpose. I tend to use bigger cameras due to my upper body pain causing me to be somewhat clumsy, and if something is larger and heavier in my hands it feels safer and this is especially so when I'm shaking after my morning medication. Heavier also gives me more stability but I can use a tripod to overcome this, where the clumsiness starts from the moment I either pick my camera up or take it out of the bag. But that is just my reason, it's neither right or wrong but my reason. The more I get in to it the more I love shooting film, I love everything about it but mainly it's "organic" feel, although I do struggle with the weight, or lack of, with 35mm cameras. However I don't use film for wildlife as I prefer the 10fps my Canon 7DII gives me, nor do I use either 35mm or 120 in a studio as I love the ability to work tethered my 5DIII and 5DII give me. These are my choices, and no one can tell me my choices are wrong, it gives me most pleasure using both mediums in different circumstances. If I also had a mirrorless camera and chose to use it in different circumstances, or all the time that would be equally ok. I personally do see photography as art and I'm not sure Turner told Rembrandt he was wrong for using old fashioned oils instead of the new fandangled watercolours (I'm not an expert in art history so don't pick me up on the details of this example). We can objectively relay what we enjoy about our cameras, but that doesn't make the person using an alternative sort of camera any less a photographer or, more importantly, any less intelligent. It just means they have made the choice they feel is right for them. This week, Nikon, Samsung and Sony have all had very major problems, I'm not saying any of the companies are on the verge of closing their doors, but the last 7 days have shown fragilities in the market and we don't know what the real future of photography is. All that truly matters is: If you use it and enjoy using it, it's right for you.
I recently bought a Sony A7 with 28-70mm f3.5-5.6 OSS lens and love it. it's lightweight, has a full frame sensor, and looks less intimidating when out shooting. yes, autofocus is a bit slow in low light, but nothing I can't work with. I just wish battery life was better and there were more lenses.
I didn't read all 277 comments, so this may have been mentioned, but both Sony and Pentax have in camera stabilization on dslrs and have for a decade. In the video you stated it was only featured in mirrorless cameras.
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As an amateur Photographer (5 Years.) In my opinion, you don't have to have a Great Expensive camera to get the job done. It doesn't matter if you have a Nikon D3200 or a Nikon D5. It's all about how you see the world, and how you capture it.
All the top notch pros agree with you. That's why they don't waste their money on pro gear. Oh, wait....
depends on what you are doing. Yes you can take good photos with a less expensive camera (see cheap camera challenge) but a more advanced camera is often more versatile, more rugged, and has (slightly) better picture quality. These extra features may not matter much of the time, but when you need them, you need them...
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i have nikon d3100 it sucks a$$
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This may not be the case, but I feel like if someone that didn't know cameras hired a photographer and they showed up with a mirror-less system, the client would think its a point and shoot, based off its appearance, and wouldn't be satisfied. And in turn, if they came with a full frame dslr with a large lense, the client would consider them much more professional. The images could be identical, but the client probably wouldn't understand.
+Appelcaster That's a good point, perception is important to consider. If you use a mirrorless system it may be worth explaining to clients a bit of the technical details in some situations.
+Appelcaster The original mirrorless camera - we've come a long way!
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+Appelcaster Attach a battery grip and get the biggest flash possible, then your mirrorless camera will be bigger for the clients.
Build a huge frame to put around the mirrorless camera and make sure it weighs about 1 1/2 pounds more than the mirrorless camera. Then you can just have the customer hold it for a minute and they'll be convinced you are a pro ... ho hum.
+Peter John RIIIGGHHT and then that defeats the purpose of buying a mirrorless camera in the first place. lol.
Yeah Jared yells a lot. But with it, he is clear and precise. He covers everything i'm looking to find out. Massive thumbs up.
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Being a first time camera buyer, I went for the mirrorless system (namely the sony a6000) even though I wanted more lens selection. To my surprise everything about it is better than what I had expected and even the image quality is far more impressive than what I saw others can do with their DSLR. In my opinion even though Sony/ any other mirrorless systems have less lens selection and slightly more expensive, the glass never fails to impress so I suggest anyone who are keen enthusiast to go mirrorless.
The way I see it both cameras are incredible. It really comes down to how well someone knows how to use lightroom as well as there eye for shooting.
Production value....perfect. Thoroughness....perfect. Delivery by Polin....Perfect. This video deserves to go viral.
I've heard a lot of people bashing DSLR users since these mirrorless cameras came about. "DSLR's are out of style & behind in times. Only true professionals use Mirrorless cameras." I looked up this video to compare because I'm a beginner photographer, I love DSLR cameras and don't have an issue with mine.... I see your camera & equipment as a personal preference. I feel like alot of those that bash DSLR users are just hipster posers that don't have a damn clue... they just want the newest trending thing & to brag about what they have, while putting others down because "they aren't trendy & following the crowd" This is just my opinion though. Every photographer is different and prefers different techniques and equipment. Most of us shoot because it's a passion.... not because it's a trendy thing.
Man that was tons of information within less than 8 minutes. Very informative. Thanks!
I learn more in the comments than in the video.
+Brice Deylac - Many times the comments do compliment the vid, on any subject. But most of the time you have to weed through nutbags that are simply there to engage in mindless pissin matches about brands, tech, styles, personal superiority...etc.
"you're an idiot, I'm a genius" and on, and on...lol
Very strange...
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GH4 button layout allows you to work camera without the menu.
Micro Four Thirds has over 60 lenses in their collection. A lot of good quality selection.
GH4 can shoot over 4 hours on one battery. Battery life is improving greatly on mirrorless.
You keep mentioning recording limit but the GH4 has no limit in the US. Now the GH4r will also have no limit.
You never spoke about 4K. Why?
Overall like your breakdown but a few facts that need to be checked. Please keep up the great videos.
+Juan Ortiz SIMPLE, this is a quick video you can not get into details on every single little thing. Basics basics basics basics.
+Juan Ortiz yeah he's got a point, you can also get adapters as well but that just makes it more complicated. and some people dont want the hassle as well as if you go with sony for auto focus that just makes it redundant unless you have an adapter that has the focusing within it which is expensive.
+Jared Polin Basics means sweeping statements. GH4 isn't the only mirrorless camera that has function buttons.
+Jared Polin I understand it being quick but you stated things as facts and will have some thinking incorrectly about the systems. Stating that there's not enough glass for mirrorless or not enough buttons on mirrorless. That no camera can record more than 30 minutes or battery life is low on mirrorless. This is misinformation included within your "basics". I just think that the wording is what needs to be corrected so that there is no false information given out.
+Juan Ortiz sounds like you just had a GH4-gasm haha, anyways, 4k is in both types of camera so if they both have the same sensor sizes and similar pricing then video quality comes down to brand an model rather than type of camera and to be fair his facts aren't hugely wrong. so i think his video has essentially reached its goal in telling the main differences but the gh4 is pretty good all the same
You uploaded this video on Sept. 14,. 2015. Would you please update this for 2018?
Secondly, would you please go into a little more depth about whether what you see on the DSLR and the mirrorless camera viewfinder or screen is what you will get when you print the photo?
No need to update is pretty much the same in general knowledge, as for printing ... u get what you shoot regardless of camera type.
Thank you, Renato.
Jacob Roberts u welcome, Jacob.
Would you please with all the experience that you have as a professional photographer tell me which has a much better quality wise in resolution and true color rendering either Nikon D850, Nikon D500 or any of the new Sony A series. I currently have a Nikon D500 thinking about switching to Nikon D850 or maybe a Sony A series. Thanks
Yes, working on it this week.
Great "DSLR v. Mirrorless for Dummies" video.
This dummy appreciates the thoroughness!
I like how this guy explain more better than the other reviewers. I tend to be more sure which is Im going to get.
Hey Jared,
What do you think about mirrorless vs. dslr now? Is it still the same?
As far as using mirrorless for video, I think it's also worth noting that some of them (namely Sony, excluding the a7s) overheat after prolonged use which makes a big difference for interview or event video people. My Sony a6000, besides overheating after two 29min takes, is worse with short clips in succession.
+hawaiianbraddah1 This had to be a quick video.
+Jared Polin true that. Awesome video and on point
+hawaiianbraddah1 I've heard a lot about MLess overheating. I guess I've lucked out on the Gh2, i've had ZERO issues with that, or shooting time.
In Europe, they tax "camcoders", and define a camcoder as anything that can shoot 30min+ video. So just about every still camera, excepting the Panasonic GH4 and GH5, have this shooting limit, even when sold in the USA. And yes, that makes absolutely no sense, given that they're tweaking the software for US use anyway.
i love the way you say froknowsphotos jared..and your hairstyle..and the way you present your videos..your information is crisp,to the point and always helpful..this is my favourite photography channel..thanks n love
People who feel like they're being yelled at by this video have clearly never been yelled at. Great job, found this really informative.
Nice! A pretty fair and unbiased breakdown.
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rofl.... the fro knows but he is loud for sure
Maybe he's used to talking to hard of hearing people..lol
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Can I just say how refreshing it is to be given advice regarding which is best for the consumer with simple, clear and concise facts and advice.
Thank you, Jared Polin.
It's getting to the point to where it isn't about mirrorless or DSLR's, it's just about cameras. Especially when it comes to things like the A7Rii. Hopefully Nikon will have a sensor like that soon. But even if they do, we have to wonder if they will have the 4k along with it. 3 grand for that camera is a really cheap price. I had the original A7R, but I went back to Canon for now. But I'd go back to Sony in the future once I feel like it's at the point I'd want to be there. I'm not as fast with them as I am DSLR's.
+nagol5178 Well, since most sensor sin Nikons are Sony sensors or Sony designed Toshiba sensors, they will probably have access to the A7r2 sensor
+nagol5178 "just about cameras" it is about mirrorless or dslr. Nikon pretty much does its in the d810. besides the 4k.
It's not about mirrorless or DSLR at this point to me, and in the future it will be less and less. The Nikon D810 is not the same sensor as the Sony A7R. I don't care if something is mirrorless as long as it has fast auto focus, the only difference... well is the mirror. I suspect Nikon's next D800 series will be 42 megapixels with a sensor similar to the A7R. Hopefully it will have 4k. Really just depends on who you are. Right now, I still like DSLR's. However I owned the original 36 MP A7R for a year. It was nice but the auto focus and ergonomics weren't there. They seem to have the auto focus down a lot better. They don't have 2.8 zooms, but I don't mind being a prime guy. The only zoom I need is the 16-35, then 55, then 85 or 90, and possibly 135. The 135 is the only one Sony hasn't came out with yet. But most people like their zooms, which will keep some people on the DSLR side. Ergonomics, battery life, etc also does. But it really is just about cameras. Once they can both do the same thing equally well, it's just going to be about which camera suits you more than if it has a mirror or not.
+nagol5178 I'll be interesting to see if, and if so, when, Nikon gets any of the new Sony sensors. Right now, Sony's the only company with a full-frame BSI sensor (two, actually), and they haven't licensed these yet. Sony definitely wants to be the Intel of camera sensors, but they're also clearly interested in challenging Nikon and Canon in the serious camera market. It'll be interesting to see which one dominates.
True. But they also want to make piles of money with the sale of sensor. They will always win this way.
Good video Jared. I seek out to your videos every time i'm curious about camera related stuff. Keep it up!
I liked this video, but I honestly think you should have mentioned the mirrorless cameras ability to attach almost any kind of lens with adapters because of the short distance to the sensor from the mount.
This gives a much larger choice of lenses for mirrorless cameras - with the caveat that you'll most likely have to shoot on full manual! This would probably be important for some people, so I really think this should have been in the video.
bogrunberger a much larger choice of "manual" lens.
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thank you jared. this is my first foray into digital slrs. Up until now I've been using the manual slrs with film. Your video has really cleared a lot up for me. I am grateful
I just can't not look at the traffic lights on the wall! I am a traffic engineer myself, and I have a big collection of old signal heads back home. But I haven't gotten around yet to make a program circuit for them... Looks so cool :3
One of your better videos Jared. With the new glass that Sony is introducing, mirrorless are not as compact once you get the large sized lensed attached.
Crazy!! To think 6 years later, Mirrorless have fixed all the flaws they had before and have now destroyed DSLR cameras. Mirrorless have unlocked new potential in cameras that we have never seen before especially the Sony a7Siii, Canon R5, Sony a7iii, Sony a7Riv, Canon R6 and now the superb Sony A1. There is no point in getting a Canon 5D mark iv as the Canon R6 offers so much more features even though it only has a 20 mega pixel sensor. DSLR tech has reach its limits too so it can never meet the Mirrorless in the middle ground ever again as Mirrorless is too far ahead.
I was gonna ask for something like "switching to full frame" video but already found it, thanks Jared.
Great review of both systems. Honestly when you get past how both devices work, it becomes a toss up. Example, Low Light... Saying DSLRs are better at low light, while having a A7 to your left, was a little tongue in cheek.
Very good UNBIASED look at the differences.
Love the ongoing argument about Auto-Focus speed. I use a Canon DSLR c/w Sigma f2.8 Zooms and I don't recall any of them ever being used in Auto-Focus.
I'll bet I can out-focus any Auto system; and I don't need to re-compose a shot; (and I always use a hand-held meter).
Excellent explanation fro as always...You are one of three my favourite channels on youtube.I learn a lot from you.Thanks a lot!I would glad to meet you one day in real life!If you come in london just make an appointment!Cheers
Why didn't you discuss image quality?
I think what you missed, as many do, is that one of the key benefits of mirrorless is the ability to shoot in manual mode with manual focus. If you want to shoot in auto with autofocus then maybe go with the old school dslr. But if you want to have more artistic control, go with the technology of the future and choose mirrorless. I'd love to see a comparison video that shows off the key features of mirrorless that puts it leaps and bounds ahead of dslr for full manual control (focus peaking and a true live view, easier adjustments of A/SS/ISO)
+Matt Wood you can shoot in Manual mode with manual focus on any DSLR. wtf are you talking about, as a matter of fact, on many DSLRs you go to live view mode and bypass the mirror.
+Jessedog11 No peaking I guess was his point.
This video helped to me to understand more about cameras and what I purchased. I knew I wanted to start making films so I purchased a Panasonic G85 after reviewing the G7. Knew it was mirrorless but had no clue about micro 4/3, apc and full frame sensors.
Image stabilization in the camera house may be rare with a Canikon DLSR. But my 7 year old Pentax DLSR has that. Works as a charm with legacy glass.
I've been a dslr user since the days of film.. I have finally given the mirrorless a try, and OMG I hate that I waited so long... I prefer a bigger camera, but now I love the mirrorless. I am waiting for the day when they merge to make the ultimate combo..
Hi Froknowsphoto, just wanted to say i watched this episode with the assistance of a doob and at 5:19 i spat out my coffee in a fit of laughter. good times
FYI, you are wrong when you said DSLR have no image stabilization. Pentax DSLR's have that option from 2009.
... oh, and a point about image stabilization in DSLRs - Pentax DSLRs have that, Sony also used to have it when they were still making DSLRs.
Great overview man! Definitely helped me in choosing a mirrorless for my needs!
A DSLR Gets a photo from the lens, not above or from the sides, and they can have alignment and focusing systems, and sometimes a HUD. They also fit your hand easier.
Olympus was first with mirrorless in 2009. Another trend in tech set by Oly . . . they also were first with in-body image stabilization. What was required to really succeed was a good EVF, which are finally out there. However, the optical view through my Pentax 645z blows the Olympus OMD finder away . . .
Despite being an older video, this was very helpful to a beginner like me. Thank you Jared!
Good video!, I like that you say "tend" because you know that's the case.
Nice break down of the major points. One can always pick on details, but there's no way to include all the fine detail and exceptions in such a short video.
Hopefully we'll see some more in-depth videos as well, in the usual informative yet entertaining form.
BTW, what happened with the Olympus E-M1? You had to return it already?
Seeing this video just solidified my happiness with my M6 Mirrorless. I love it for vlogging and I even use it to produce professional quality video for clients. Personally if your a vlogger, Mirrorless is the way to go.
Very nice video ......
What do you recommend for astronomy Mirrorless or DSLR?
Thanks
I think both systems are great. Also you have to take in consideration rental if you thinking to do professional work you may will have to rent additional camera body or lenses like 70-200 if you can't afford it in the beginning. Usually you can found way more companies renting Nikon and Canon glass and they holding bigger stock for peak season..
thank you so much for making this video! I've been facing this dilemma for a month or two now and I think you've helped me come to a final decision !
what did you go with? 😝
+jorge quinones that i can't count out mirrorless cameras yet!
Kate Dubickas same haha
Hey Jared the a6000 is really great in low light situations but as far as quality of the pictures itself i will go with an slr camera. I like bringing a mirrorless on trips and when it comes to paid shoots i will stick with an slr.
I'm kind of over the RUclipsrs who think they have to sell their videos like television car salesmen. I never subscribe to guys like this... give me a low key, easy going, relaxed presenter with great content any day of the week. I appreciate the time and effort, but, really... just chill.
this is a very thorough video, thank you
Holy cow! Just took so many notes whilst watching this video. I think I'm in love! Thank you so much for sharing!
Pentax DSLRs have in-body image stabilization. EVFs have disadvantages as well, for instance, there can be lag and a stuttering display, and in low ligt the eye has to deal with a bright EVF display. Most mirrorless cameras are much slower to start up than DSLRs and many have much poorer battery life.
it seems you need to do an updated video of this. Since mirrorless cameras have changed so much in the last year. Am I wrong?
So Jared, this is a great professionally delivered video. It outlines the differences and simularities of both systems.
I, currently, am sticking to MFT.
Smuchly thanks mate.
Jared , thanks for the video .
it was useful and simple to understand the difference between them .
I appreciated all this information very much !
Lens availability is really not an issue for mirrorless. They have an adaptor for any kind of lens these days. If you're looking at one of theses to shoot video, don't even bother with a mirror system. Sony A7Sii smokes all these rigs when it comes to image, form factor, audio, and creative control. Unless you already own a bunch of micro 4/3 lenses, I'd steer clear of a 4/3 sensor camera. If I've learned one thing in doing this for 30 years is, buy for the future not in the moment. Large sensor mirrorless is where you want to be. You may not think so now but once you start to use one you'll wonder what took you so long.
Good and straight to the point. Been looking for something like this.
thanks man I have just started watching your stuff and love the way you present. clear and concise thanks
Very informative great job
The moment I saw this video's title I thought, hey he's trying out the sony line COOL! But as I watched this, I noticed that you basically look at the sony line as a kids toy.
Sony is awesome, not as good as Nikon and Canon but here are some of the reasons why.
1. They adopted minolta lens. These lens are great and cheaper in price. AND THEY HAVE SIGMA LENS.
2. Sony has adapters just incase you need to use a Nikon or Canon lens.
3. I've produced GREAT IMAGES with Sony. It has a stable shot (because I tend to shake)..the loss in light tends to bring in some nice colors. I like this feature.
4. The DSLR to DSLT also converted the batteries to DSLT. I'm not sure about the Mirrorless but I'm sure they won't screw you over.
Of course with the exception of loss of light, is there really any difference if you are shooting in manual mode? I can dial in all of my settings and get a proper exposure (even easier now with the mirrorless). I honestly feel like if you are use to one camera line, stick to it.
Nikon person, probably shouldn't be using Sony or Canon.
If you look at the major players the IS or VR are in the lenses but one of the older manufacturers Pentax aka Ricoh has SR (shake reduction) in the body. Just an FYI
+Rick Lugo And Minolta/Sony DSLR/DSLT A-mount
Jared, what you said about autofocus in video mode about DSLRs is inaccurate. I bought the Canon 70D for shooting videos with an STM lens and it's absolutely flawless. You don't get that autofocus accuracy in video mode with a GH4.
As always, Jared, well presented and all choices covered. I am staying with my D4 and D800 with all the Fx lenses. I shoot without cards straight to an HDMI out to HDMI in of an Atomos with no time limit beyond the SSD in the 10bit ProRes HQ. Photos are 14 bit RAW and I cannot see myself changing away from this combination...
One of the better videos I've seen on this subject; nice and objective.
Thanks for the video man! Straight to the point! Owning a D750 looks like DSLR is becoming the new "old school" like on the film days against the DSRL, we'll see how far does the Mirrorless goes!
great video man. switched to micro four thirds after years of DSLR and love it!
This video is great. Well explained, well structured and to the point.
You can´t ask for more being free.
Nice work.
are you reading notes next to the camera when you record? i keep seeing your eyes tracking back and forth to towards the lens and off to the side slightly
Loved the traffic light in background :)
Mr. Polin, what happened to mention of the Fuji X interchangeable lens system. Sony was represented and sure the Fuji X100 was, but that is not representational. The Fuji X system does have more lens choices than Sony last I checked. In addition micro four thirds was not mentioned unless I missed it. It would be helpful and informative to at least mention or do a graphic if you do not have the camera in hand since it looked like it was a very narrow selection. Perhaps adding to go to B&H Photo or Adorama and use the filtering system their website has to see all the products.
the lens depends on the size of the sensor so a 70-200 f/2.8 on a dslr would be the same size on a mirrorless camera of equivalent sensor size, Jared stated that the lenses are smaller which is wrong.
Sony DSLRs - in body stabilization & electronic viewfinders (plus manual zoom focus peaking) for over 3 years now...
Picked up a Sony A5000, APS-C sensor, shutter speed 1/4000, ISO range 100-16,000, 20.4 MP, kit lens is 16-50 mm, 180 degree LCD so far a great little sub $400 compact camera
a really big thing you are not talking about is the flange focal distance. mirrorless cameras in general have a way smaller ffd because there is no need to house a mirror in between the flange and the sensor. this sounds like a techie talk but it has a huge influence when you are choosing your lenses. the smaller the ffd the more lenses you can use. let me be very clear on this point, i am talking about manual lenses here. but when you i.e. compare a leica r camera and a sony a7 then you will quickly find out that you can not use any lens on a leica r that is not a leica r lens. while on a sony a7 you can use more or less what ever brand you like. leica, nikon, canon, it will all work perfectly. so the only thing you need to take care about is pure lens quality, and because it is all manual anyway you can pick the best glass for no money at all. a leica r 90mm/2.0 is below 500$, a nikon 35/1.4 is about 600$, i have no clue about canon but i guess they had a good lens in the past too.
so if you care about quality, or if you don't have money or if you only want to shoot video, where mostly you don't want autofocus anyway, this small ffd is a huge benefit. i hope ffd is the correct term for it in german it is "auflagemaß" i am talking about.
btw this topic around ffd, sensorsize and glas, sensor resolution and optical resolution is such a big deal you can make a 5 hour show out of it ;-)
Some very good points to consider, thank you for sharing.
Thank you Jared. I was searching info on just this subject and your video was perfect.
Great video, you really killed it on this one fro
Man good job!!! I appreciate the hard work you put into this video and all of your content !!!
I think we should should all shoot with what gives us pleasure and gets us out with our camera whatever type they are. I find how partisan people can become over what type of camera, media, manufacturer or even the subjects people choose doesn't serve any true purpose. I tend to use bigger cameras due to my upper body pain causing me to be somewhat clumsy, and if something is larger and heavier in my hands it feels safer and this is especially so when I'm shaking after my morning medication. Heavier also gives me more stability but I can use a tripod to overcome this, where the clumsiness starts from the moment I either pick my camera up or take it out of the bag. But that is just my reason, it's neither right or wrong but my reason. The more I get in to it the more I love shooting film, I love everything about it but mainly it's "organic" feel, although I do struggle with the weight, or lack of, with 35mm cameras. However I don't use film for wildlife as I prefer the 10fps my Canon 7DII gives me, nor do I use either 35mm or 120 in a studio as I love the ability to work tethered my 5DIII and 5DII give me. These are my choices, and no one can tell me my choices are wrong, it gives me most pleasure using both mediums in different circumstances. If I also had a mirrorless camera and chose to use it in different circumstances, or all the time that would be equally ok. I personally do see photography as art and I'm not sure Turner told Rembrandt he was wrong for using old fashioned oils instead of the new fandangled watercolours (I'm not an expert in art history so don't pick me up on the details of this example). We can objectively relay what we enjoy about our cameras, but that doesn't make the person using an alternative sort of camera any less a photographer or, more importantly, any less intelligent. It just means they have made the choice they feel is right for them. This week, Nikon, Samsung and Sony have all had very major problems, I'm not saying any of the companies are on the verge of closing their doors, but the last 7 days have shown fragilities in the market and we don't know what the real future of photography is. All that truly matters is: If you use it and enjoy using it, it's right for you.
Jared Polin ! I appriciate your professional work as i had seen 3 videos of you. You provide accurate information regarding the subject.
That was a very good summary, unbiased.
Easy to follow. Thanks for explaining. 🙏
Very well explained video Jared without the usual histrionics that usually come bundled with these comparison videos :)
Yep only thing that matters was omitted
Just love your stuff!! Thank you for always being so helpful Jared Polin!!
Thanks Jared !! The video is really helpful. I like how you recommended with sticking to the system what's best for us
ya you covered a lot of the technical differences for us rookies, good video Fro! Thanks
I recently bought a Sony A7 with 28-70mm f3.5-5.6 OSS lens and love it. it's lightweight, has a full frame sensor, and looks less intimidating when out shooting. yes, autofocus is a bit slow in low light, but nothing I can't work with. I just wish battery life was better and there were more lenses.
amazing video, straight to the point. very well done Jared!
Great Video Jared (and Team)! Simple and on the point.
theres a special feature for sony mirrorless cameras that makes it possible to also adapt canon lenses for example
a6000 or d3400? using it for travelling, will be a mix of all kinds of photography
Pentax dslrs have stabilized sensors.
So do Sony
So do Olympus
+Димо Петров I didn't know Olympus made dslr cameras.
+caballeroPL They used to make them with 4/3 mount, discontinued in 2013
+caballeroPL As do Sony
I didn't read all 277 comments, so this may have been mentioned, but both Sony and Pentax have in camera stabilization on dslrs and have for a decade. In the video you stated it was only featured in mirrorless cameras.
+Kelly Kawthorne Ok, now ?I saw a previous comment, and I am redundant. Otherwise, great video. Watch a lot of your stuff.