When I bought my Forester Touring last year it had only 4,700 miles on it. The previous owner had Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires installed at only 1,300 miles. I was so impressed with the tires that I had my wife drive my Forester for a few days. She too loved the handling and the quietness of the tires. Her Outback still had the factory tires on, so when they wore out we had the Cross Climate 2 tires put on her Outback. After driving for 2 winters on her factory tires and then installing the Cross Climate 2 tires on her Outback last January she told me right away how much better her Outback hugged the road. We live in a very mountainous area of north central Washington state. Our house is 5 miles from town (25 miles from the city). After leaving town we have to climb up further into the mountains to get home. There’s a lot of “S” curves up the county road to our private road. We get 5-7 feet of snow every winter and we have to plow and maintain our road ourselves. We are so impressed with the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires that we’ve recommended them to both of her brothers and sisters in-law (they live in Montana). One of her brothers have had the Cross Climate 2 tires installed on their Outback and they too love the tire. I was talking to my brother (who lives in Portland Oregon) about these tires. He laughed and told me that they already had them on their Outback as well. They get a Lot of rain and we get a Lot of snow. The Cross Climate 2 tires are Awesome on dry, wet, slushy, snowy, logging and forest roads. When ours wear out, we’ll replace them with another set. They’re a quiet tire and they don’t cut down on fuel consumption. I’m so glad that the previous owner of my Forester had them put on my car.
So far after over a year, they barely look worn. I’m feelin good about their longevity. My mileage took a small hit right off the bat, but has actually climbed back up to normal as they’ve broken in. Zero regrets on these guys, best tires anyone could ever hope to put on their cars. We just got our first snow for the season today and I’m excited to crush the winter with em
I couldn’t tell ya, I don’t do much of that kinda stuff. But they do eat pebbles like crazy, so I’d guess not great since mud tires are engineered to expel dirt and debris
i litterally went through the same as the op comment, turning into a tyre nerd after fitting the cross climates. the original CC lasted us about 5,5 years and were changed out because of having to pass an annual technical inspection (max allowable age of tyres is 5 years). at that point they had started to wrinkle and the thread was gone about 55-60%, meaning it had more than 40% remaining. tyres were still driving almost as well as new ones (unlike any previous tyre we have had). At that poiunt there were about 93.000km (lets say 55k miles) and the thread still had ways to go. (keep in mind a fairly conservative driving aimed at fuel efficiency and a climate that gets up to 42-43 C in summer. (sorry for SI if you are american)) (also for the milleage keep in mind last 1.5 year of the original set was uring covid, so millieage usage dropped) after that only new tyre possibility for us was to go for the new model, but due to covid the CC2 had been delayed so we went with the CC+. and we continue to be extremely happy with the new set. if you look at tyre reviews the CC2 is way better at snow, but it has taken a very slight step back on wet compared to the CC+. also for what it matters, no tyre punctures since we put the michelins on, and we fill them with Nitrogen and they havent lost tyre pressure a bit. Litterally at the first set, when removed it was still with original fillup (though tested yearly). if you are concerned about fuel consumption, then i would say: -theoretically anything that has deeper grooves than a summer tyre and it is not low rolling resistance design will raise your consumption -having said the above, practiacally going from a summer fuel consumption premium continental tyre to the michellins did not change the fuel cnsumption noticeably and we drive aiming for fuel efficiency so we are tracking the consumption we get. We notice bigger fuel efficincy differences by using different gas stations, than the tyres being fitted. (reason of such emphasis on consumption is the fuel prices in greece,where this is driven mainly) gl, and feel free to ask a question if you have something
The choices are many and every tire has trade offs. I chose the Michelin tires because it seemed to have what I wanted, paid 20% more but the quality and performance appear to be worth it.
I just bought the Cross Climate 2 for my 2019 MZDA Grand Touring Reserve 2.5 L. turbo AWD. I really like the handling and hope they are as good as YT reviews say.
Nokian all the way ! Im in Canada you need it even in Ontario . Actually Buffalo NY gets more snow then Toronto just to know Falk's ! Nokian Rules ! '''
Agree 100% the Nokian WRG4 are amazing drove from Ottawa to Edmundston, NB in a snow and ice storm and did amazing was driving by cars and tractor trailers in the ditch but no slipping or sliding at all with the Nokians
Got the Nokian WR G4 on our 2017 Toyota Sienna and it’s been excellent for us here with our Minnesota winters. Grip, acceleration, stopping distance has been really good and could definitely tell the difference from the factory all seasons. Best tires in my opinion for all weather.
I e had the Firestone Weathergrippers on my car for 18 months. Great traction in wet or snow. You do get slightly less mileage and there is a slight increase in tire noise but that is to be expected. The one thing I dislike is the uni-directional mounting. I have to remind the tire place when getting my tires rotated.
Check out the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires. They’re Awesome on dry, wet, slushy, snowy, logging and forester roads. They’re quiet and they don’t cut down on your fuel consumption. We have them on both our Outback and Forester. We’ve recommended them to everyone
@@NoName-tz5ji 2 year old post. I ended up with Cross Climate 2 on a Heavy SUV holding up ok so far and better winter grip for sure over the P. Zeros. Did not loose any MPG either.
Actually it depends...if you're from the US, they are called "all weather". In Europe, we call them "all season" ;) The tires are rated 3PMSF & M+S, making them suited for all weather / all season (including winter). I believe in the US "all season" tires are only M+S, while "all weather" tires include the 3PMSF rating. Cheers!
all weather since it handles snow better than all season..its pretty confusing to get good definitions...all season will go thru milder climares but all weather will take on the extreme conditions better..thats my observations
Been shopping around for tires and they all tell me that "all weathers" are "all-season" tires. They just do better in snow, and ice. So it's basically an enhanced all season tire🤔 .
5. Over priced 4. They used to make the best cell phones. 3. Not even in the top 10 2. Replace with the Vredestein HiTrac. 1. Bridgestone Weather-Peak or Pirelli P7 AS Plus 3
When I bought my Forester Touring last year it had only 4,700 miles on it. The previous owner had Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires installed at only 1,300 miles.
I was so impressed with the tires that I had my wife drive my Forester for a few days. She too loved the handling and the quietness of the tires.
Her Outback still had the factory tires on, so when they wore out we had the Cross Climate 2 tires put on her Outback. After driving for 2 winters on her factory tires and then installing the Cross Climate 2 tires on her Outback last January she told me right away how much better her Outback hugged the road.
We live in a very mountainous area of north central Washington state. Our house is 5 miles from town (25 miles from the city). After leaving town we have to climb up further into the mountains to get home. There’s a lot of “S” curves up the county road to our private road.
We get 5-7 feet of snow every winter and we have to plow and maintain our road ourselves.
We are so impressed with the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires that we’ve recommended them to both of her brothers and sisters in-law (they live in Montana). One of her brothers have had the Cross Climate 2 tires installed on their Outback and they too love the tire.
I was talking to my brother (who lives in Portland Oregon) about these tires. He laughed and told me that they already had them on their Outback as well. They get a Lot of rain and we get a Lot of snow.
The Cross Climate 2 tires are Awesome on dry, wet, slushy, snowy, logging and forest roads.
When ours wear out, we’ll replace them with another set.
They’re a quiet tire and they don’t cut down on fuel consumption.
I’m so glad that the previous owner of my Forester had them put on my car.
I’ve had the cross climate 2’s since they came out: they are so good it literally turned me into a tire nerd. Those things are worth every penny
What about prognosed mileage?
So far after over a year, they barely look worn. I’m feelin good about their longevity. My mileage took a small hit right off the bat, but has actually climbed back up to normal as they’ve broken in. Zero regrets on these guys, best tires anyone could ever hope to put on their cars. We just got our first snow for the season today and I’m excited to crush the winter with em
@@3rundisciple are they good for off-roading? Not incredibly hardcore off-roading but like dirt roads and light mud?
I couldn’t tell ya, I don’t do much of that kinda stuff. But they do eat pebbles like crazy, so I’d guess not great since mud tires are engineered to expel dirt and debris
i litterally went through the same as the op comment, turning into a tyre nerd after fitting the cross climates.
the original CC lasted us about 5,5 years and were changed out because of having to pass an annual technical inspection (max allowable age of tyres is 5 years). at that point they had started to wrinkle and the thread was gone about 55-60%, meaning it had more than 40% remaining. tyres were still driving almost as well as new ones (unlike any previous tyre we have had). At that poiunt there were about 93.000km (lets say 55k miles) and the thread still had ways to go. (keep in mind a fairly conservative driving aimed at fuel efficiency and a climate that gets up to 42-43 C in summer. (sorry for SI if you are american))
(also for the milleage keep in mind last 1.5 year of the original set was uring covid, so millieage usage dropped)
after that only new tyre possibility for us was to go for the new model, but due to covid the CC2 had been delayed so we went with the CC+.
and we continue to be extremely happy with the new set.
if you look at tyre reviews the CC2 is way better at snow, but it has taken a very slight step back on wet compared to the CC+.
also for what it matters, no tyre punctures since we put the michelins on, and we fill them with Nitrogen and they havent lost tyre pressure a bit. Litterally at the first set, when removed it was still with original fillup (though tested yearly).
if you are concerned about fuel consumption, then i would say:
-theoretically anything that has deeper grooves than a summer tyre and it is not low rolling resistance design will raise your consumption
-having said the above, practiacally going from a summer fuel consumption premium continental tyre to the michellins did not change the fuel cnsumption noticeably and we drive aiming for fuel efficiency so we are tracking the consumption we get. We notice bigger fuel efficincy differences by using different gas stations, than the tyres being fitted. (reason of such emphasis on consumption is the fuel prices in greece,where this is driven mainly)
gl, and feel free to ask a question if you have something
1. Nokian Encompass AW03
2. Michelin Cross Climate 2
both of these are excellent on ice and snow particuarly when paired with an AWD vehicle
I've had 3 sets of Nokian WR G4 and these tire kick ass in winter and not so bad in summer.
The choices are many and every tire has trade offs. I chose the Michelin tires because it seemed to have what I wanted, paid 20% more but the quality and performance appear to be worth it.
Missing - Bridgestone Weatherpeak - Got them on my CHR. Better than the OEM Duplop tires.
I just bought the Cross Climate 2 for my 2019 MZDA Grand Touring Reserve 2.5 L. turbo AWD. I really like the handling and hope they are as good as YT reviews say.
The best tires I have driven on in 50 years driving , you will not be disappointed , wet ,dry and snow they are safe . jimflutes
They're great, I have the originals and they have 50k km on them and still good thread lol, never felt safer in winter 👌
@@rubenbraekman4515 Is it noisy in the car?
@@elvaz2 I would say so yes, a little bit, but my car is also cheap so that doesn't help
how the tires perform, how the tire tread
Nokian all the way ! Im in Canada you need it even in Ontario . Actually Buffalo NY gets more snow then Toronto just to know Falk's ! Nokian Rules ! '''
Agree 100% the Nokian WRG4 are amazing drove from Ottawa to Edmundston, NB in a snow and ice storm and did amazing was driving by cars and tractor trailers in the ditch but no slipping or sliding at all with the Nokians
Got the Nokian WR G4 on our 2017 Toyota Sienna and it’s been excellent for us here with our Minnesota winters. Grip, acceleration, stopping distance has been really good and could definitely tell the difference from the factory all seasons. Best tires in my opinion for all weather.
I have a friend that got these and speak very good about them
Mine is starting to crack. Check it out on my channel.
@@touyang9479 and or fwd
I have then to and I personally think there horrible Especially in the rain it’s like you’re driving on ice
CC2 > WRGR and will definitely last longer.
Is Michelin CrossClimate 2 suitable for hybrid cars?
I e had the Firestone Weathergrippers on my car for 18 months. Great traction in wet or snow. You do get slightly less mileage and there is a slight increase in tire noise but that is to be expected. The one thing I dislike is the uni-directional mounting. I have to remind the tire place when getting my tires rotated.
Check out the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires. They’re Awesome on dry, wet, slushy, snowy, logging and forester roads.
They’re quiet and they don’t cut down on your fuel consumption.
We have them on both our Outback and Forester.
We’ve recommended them to everyone
No WRG4 in the 255/60/19 size. 😢
Toyo Celcius is a good choice as well.
No Kumho Solus 4S HA32 or Yokohama Grolanders?!
Pirelli weather active for me.
Many thanks 🎉
Continental DWS Extreme tire!
We AGREE !!!
Thanks for your opinion.
What happened to General Tire?
General is looooooooow quality. Not even worth mentioning
What about the new Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActive?
Wow,I didn’t realize they were out that long.
@@NoName-tz5ji 2 year old post. I ended up with Cross Climate 2 on a Heavy SUV holding up ok so far and better winter grip for sure over the P. Zeros. Did not loose any MPG either.
Okay… robot.
He did cover the basics
@pete5534 I liked his review so much better than yours tho.
We have Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires on both our Outback and Forester.
They’re Awesome tires on all road conditions, including deep heavy snow.
AHH, an AI voice, so no real testing and you probably lifted this info from tire sites.
Where is Continental? 🤷🏻♂️
They didn't pay for the advertising.😂😂😂
DWS S06 + is a great tire
But Michelin CC2 paid for this advertisement 😅
Kuhmo solus Missing
To bad there are not any REAL reviews of snow tires comparing them side by side. Reading what the maker says about the tire is useless. drivel.
Michelin Cross Climate 2 is an all season tire and not all weather.
Actually it depends...if you're from the US, they are called "all weather". In Europe, we call them "all season" ;) The tires are rated 3PMSF & M+S, making them suited for all weather / all season (including winter). I believe in the US "all season" tires are only M+S, while "all weather" tires include the 3PMSF rating. Cheers!
all weather since it handles snow better than all season..its pretty confusing to get good definitions...all season will go thru milder climares but all weather will take on the extreme conditions better..thats my observations
It's an americanism
Costco call them All Season and they have the snow symbol
Been shopping around for tires and they all tell me that "all weathers" are "all-season" tires. They just do better in snow, and ice. So it's basically an enhanced all season tire🤔 .
Once I heard the misuse of “infamous” with an AI voice. Automatic thumbs down 👎 off to another channel.
You lost me by stating that the blizak is the best winter tire.
Thanks for your opinion.
Il Firestone è il Vredestein nei test sono risultati i peggiori in assoluto.
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Never buy Firestone tires
Never buy Firestone tires
5. Over priced
4. They used to make the best cell phones.
3. Not even in the top 10
2. Replace with the Vredestein HiTrac.
1. Bridgestone Weather-Peak or Pirelli P7 AS Plus 3
Nokian = Tires
Nokia.= Cell phones
Two different companies.
@@AltaHangman It was a joke 😆but it seems you have agreed with everything else.
Sceptor tires 🛞 is Food