Stories, Sex, and Calling | Doug Wilson
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2021
- In this clip from Man Rampant, Doug Wilson discusses the difference between stories written for men and stories written for women. What do our stories tell us about our calling?
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No. The garden is the mission. They are both in the garden. Eve is helping Adam, Adam is tending the garden. This is not a Western or a war (but it is both of them in a way) it is a farm. They both are in it, Adam leading/working, Eve helping Adam. What you are describing, Man Goes our into the world, is not normative. It is a product of Materialist/industrialism. It’s not reality as scripture lays it out. There are times when man needs to go out. But that is not normative, their is a special reason. It’s not the way God would have us live out our lives. The tribes that left their families and land on the other side of the Jordan to help conquer the promise land returned home when the war was over to continue more important work. Or, if you like, from Homer. Agamemnon took the Greeks away from their homes and work for his own megalomania. It’s clear that he is a villain. Odysseus spent a whole book trying to get back home. Not to refit and go out again, but to stay home and do the work he is a called to. Aaneus spent an entire book looking for a home not a war. And when he got there he wasn’t planning on trading stocks or selling cheap mass produced goods. He was gonna pull life out of the ground by stewarding land and family. Sons and daughters need to be with their fathers and mothers learning how to do the family business (Worship, Relationships, and work) preferably a durable trade. For more on this read Homer, Virgil, Malory, Shakespeare, Burke, John Taylor of Caroline, Simms, Dabney, Gildersleeve, Chesterton, The 12 Fugitives, Weaver, Bradford, Berry, Salatin, Rory Groves.
Adam and Eve were commanded to be fruitful and multiply, to fill the earth and subdue it. In order to fulfill this command, human beings were required to go out into the world. Similarly, God called Abraham to go out into the world to a land that He would show him. This is what Doug Wilson was addressing.
There are plenty of other examples of this principle in Scripture.
@@ObscurityIsBest You are correct about the Dominion Mandate. You are correct that humans are to go into the world to fullfill that mandate. God did call Ab to go out into the promise land and lay claim to it. For instance he refused to be given his burial place and required it to be sold to him. I think you are missing that Pastor Wilson's comments are in the context of a Father going out from his family to do his work. This is not in scripture as I explained in my comment.
@@thomasglasscock2570: I agree in part with your objection to a father going out from his family to do his work. The pattern I often see advocated in Scripture is that of a home-centered business/workplace. That said, there are other cases such as that of Boaz. Boaz owned fields, and hired hands helping him attend to them.
The industrial revolution has definitely had a huge impact.
@@ObscurityIsBest Thanks very much for the interactions. I am most grateful for your gentlemanly demeanor.
I don't think that your Boaz point is valid if you arguing it as an example of a non-home centered economy. I do not think that we can infer that these men did not normally work on their own places and/or they might have been part of Boaz household. However, I do think that there is not an absolutism of Home centered economy in scripture, which is probly the point you are making and I'm too dense to see that. I'm merely saying that this is the biblical model.
Have you listened to Eric Conn's interview with Rory Groves? It was most edifying.
ericconn.com/podcast/interview-rory-groves-from-durable-trades/
@@thomasglasscock2570: You're most welcome! And thank you for reciprocating.
From what you've stated thus far in your comments, I think it's safe to say that we are in agreement regarding the principles at play. I've been thinking for a while now that there is something "off" about a father/husband settling for a non-home centered source of income. Fathers need to be in much closer contact with their families. Children need more interaction with their fathers on a daily basis, and wives need more interaction with their husbands. I believe the ideal is for the father/husband to be fostering a home-centered economy. He should be striving for that goal in spite of whatever (cultural/societal) circumstances he might be in.
I have not heard of Eric Conn or Rory Groves. I'm definitely interested in listening to the interview. Thank you for passing that on.
God bless you, sir!
Looks like this episode was removed from Canon+, which is good. Dale partridge was the weakest guest on the show
I had a friend of mine that worked in finance and he always said I liked working with women bosses because they always wanted to get home to their families (at the very least to see their kids ) after the work was done.
Whereas with most men bosses they expected you to work extra late at night because they never wanted to go home because usually their marriages /family life were terrible and they'd rather be at work than at their home .
I thought Charlie Daniels died
Why isn't Dale talking? In all these talks, it's only Doug.... just saying
I begin to wonder what God thought about Billy Graham leaving Ruth so often over their entire life. I couldn't count how often Graham referred to Ruth as an invalid in their later years. It soon sounded like in valid, not valid. I don't think God made Ruth for that. Satan has many ways to justify pain in marriage. When it should be the closest relationship outside of our most intimate walk with God. Satan hates what's thee best for us. He hates God and us, the very image of God Himself. The US is very biggest porn capital of the world. Just turn on tv with the sound off. And it 99% more soft porn imaging of women than men.
Did Doug have a haircut or something? Lookin sharp!
Disappointing that Wilson doesn't understand the genius of Jane Austen. The relationship is a vehicle through which Austen explores (and gently mocks) society and the conventions of the day. If you think the relationship is the plot, you're missing the point.
That mockery isn’t the plot. The relationship is still the plot.
I think you are conflating mockery with self aware humor. Austen is celebrating that way of life, and bringing out the humor that is explicit to it.
Doug loves Austen. He’s got some good videos on her...
You should talk to Rollo Tomassi about his book the Red Pill & Religion.