Apollo 7700 vs Titan Maxum II
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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Alright everyone this week we are looking at a hot topic turbine spray guns. Who has the best! This week we look at the atomization of the Apollo 7700 vs Titan Maxum II. Both guns have a 1.8 Needle nozzle with air cap and were set exactly the same. I am shooting the CIC 2K white poly at a 5% reduction. I hope you enjoy the video. Thanks for watching and remember "TEST DON'T GUESS"!!!!!!!
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When you increase flow rate on the Apollo the droplet size will increase giving similar results, I own both guns and use the high solids air cap on the the 7700 which is suppose to give better atomization. I have used both guns for hundreds of hours using PPG 2K Poly and the Titan gun gives a finer finish hands down.
Awesome use what you love 👊👊👊
Me too dude. That spray fan on the apollo deforms bad too if ya get the fluid level too high. I think the smaller air cap is the key to better finish.
I think the you should show the comparison when the fluid was increased on the 7700 to see if the coverage increased and the pattern changed. also the corner overspray test would have been more accurate if both were taped down in the corner, so the overspray didnt go behind and blow out the paper
Naturally it would increases the coverage the idea was to try to set the guns as close as possible so that they were set as equally. Some what impossible but at the end of the day it really doesn’t skew the results. The Apollo is still the best gun on the market.
The apollo was always going to have less overspray based on the first test because of the much finer/tighter edges..would be interesting to see the apollo overspray with the fluid setting a little higher. Great demo 👍
+JoePro Decor it doesn’t affect it.
I was just debate ordering my third Maxim for Waterborne clears now I’m back on the fence...
Dailey Woodworks if you already have 2 go with the Apollo just to see if you like it any better. If you don’t you will be able to sell it easy.
Great review. Thanks for providing such good content.
John Fautch glad you are finding it helpful.
Thanks for the links!
WordAboveAll you are welcome
Would like to have heard your thoughts on the Graco Edge 2 interesting video!
I dont have the edge 2 but I have someone that is willing to let me use it so we may do another one with that gun and see hot it compares..
I have both the edge and 7700. Apollo all day. I do love my grace turbine but the guns not so much..
I converted both of mine to a regular compressed air setup.
Kloes Custom Furniture be interesting to see a harbor freight vs Apollo on a compressor setup where you don’t have a fixed pressure.
@@ericreason6559 I have used both. The horror fright does well with vinyl sealer and solvent. Water base is a bit harder as its thicker and I don't thin my finishes. The appollo sprays most everything. But I don't spray pigment like you do.
Hello Eric, another couple of questions, what do you think it would be the difference, if
any, between using sherwood catalyzed lacquer precat vs kem aqua in
terms of quality, finish and durability? and do you think the titan
capspray would deliver the same finish using sherwood catalyzed lacquer
precat vs the kem aqua? thanks in advance.
hangeles80 The durability of kem aqua is the same as a pre-cat the difference is going to be early hardness. The pre-cat will dry faster than the waterbase. You can get great results with using either with a turbine.
Eric Reason thanks again for your response. I really appreciate it.
hangeles80 you are welcome
Hi Eric ,you should try FujiSpray system one day .
Mr StOrK o have a Fuji system. It’s about the same as the titan setup. I will eventually do a video on it.
I use the maxum II on all my cabinet jobs and it performs flawlessly everytime, I didn't see much difference between those 2 guns not sure it's worth the switch, just purchased the maxum elite to see if is any better than the maxum II
Okay use what you like.
@@ericreason6559baby ur reveiw is PANTS clueless
Can I use an Apollo 7700 gun with a Titan capspray 115 turbine? I have the Titan turbine and I was going to buy the maxum elite gun but I’ve seen so many people giving good reviews on the Apollo 7700 gun so I’m wondering if it’d a better investment to buy the Apollo . Do you think it would make any difference using different brands?
hangeles80 I have used they combo for years. Titan with the Apollo gun. Works amazingly well.
Eric Reason thanks for the response. I really appreciate it.
is that the graco cups?
that is not overspray, it is clearly a wider fan pattern
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Cool fact .. the turbine systems are simply a motor from a central vacuum cleaner . instead of spending 2000 on an apollo just look at the parts list and fina a suppliee for the motor , I bought the same motor from the 6 stage system and built my own case , even used apollo filters and some various apollo parts .. wallah 200 bucks later my system is just as good , 35 years in cabinetry and its all i use with a 7700 gun
Can you provide more info?
Hey man, any idea if the apollo guns work on a titan capspray turbine?
Yep they will
Work just fine
Could it be possible to spray the cic 2k poly with a 2 stage turbine you think ?
Maybe if you thinnned it 20% but you might have issues with runs.
Just got the 7700t gun for pressure pot. I will test it and see how it compares to lvlp.
wojciech Hyrczyk right on brother let us know. “Test Don’t Guess”
Was the tip size the same for both?
shawn bechtel yes all of that information is in the description below. Both had 1.8 cap and tips.
this test is useless
Lmao
This guy putting out some of the most biased bs demos on RUclips for sure 👏 The maxum 2 is a great gun that produces great results!
1. I never said the maxim 2 isn’t a good gun
2. I don’t care I get nothing from either of these companies.
3 I Don’t even recommend or use these systems anymore with current waterbase products and systems.
4. Prove me wrong
@@ericreason6559
1.Not directly, only that its not as good as the Apollo.This video was clearly made to sell the Apollo 👎
2.You obviously do care and that's clear from watching the video.
3.Really? You did say the Apollo is far superior to the titan and went on to say its a no brainer to buy the Apolllo.
4. The only person trying to prove something here is you, I'm just calling you out on the BS.
Of course the Titan will have more overspray since its putting out more paint. Increasing the air or reducing the amount of fluid will solve this but don't tell anyone! Lets just keep that between us 😅
Likewise with the apollo, it has less overspray since its putting out less paint. Leave it as is and increase the amount of paint it throwing out to match the Titan and it will have the same amount of overspay if not more 🤪
Come on now, this has to be one of the most biased videos on here a not a fair comparison in my opinion!
@@innerarmour8347 so actually the video was made because there was an argument between these two guns in a Facebook group and at the time I was like you and believed their wasn’t any difference between the two. After this test and many others behind the scenes I changed my mind. Yes the Apollo is a better gun than the Titan gun most of that has to do with the machining of the gun and the way the air is delivered to air cap and the air cap it’s self. Also there is no way to measure the fluid output of these types of guns which can be a contributing factor to perform but the air cap on the Apollo is and the design is what reduces the overspray and causes the materials to be atomized different. The angles on the fan are totally different on the air cap and the apollo has followed the designs of the the sata and some of the higher end guns. The facts are the facts. I can’t change your view that you think it is a biassed video but I am telling you that wasn’t the intent. The intent was to try to compare the two guns and let the chips fall were they may.
@@ericreason6559 I don't see how the Apollo is "better" when the Titan can produce an identical spray pattern if not better and that is a fact! I honestly don't believe you were trying to compare both guns, more like pushing the Apollo but hey, each to their own!
@@innerarmour8347 have you ever put them side by side same coating and pressure etc etc. i think your getting hung up you can get great results with the Titan. If you know what you are doing you can get test results with anything