Marvel's Doctor Doom News Is Huge, But Somehow Still a Letdown
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Going into this year’s San Diego Comic-Con, the general consensus among fans and industry onlookers was that Kevin Feige would surely be making some big announcements - not just after a quiet 2023, but also because of the increasing chatter about the MCU losing its groove.
And, well, Feige definitely had one huge reveal in store for us in Hall H on Saturday night: as you have no doubt heard by now, Robert Downey, Jr. is returning to the MCU, not as Tony Stark or Iron Man, but rather as the highly anticipated Fantastic Four villain Doctor Doom. And he will be the centerpiece of the next Avengers movie, Avengers: Doomsday, the sequel formerly known as Avengers: The Kang Dynasty.
Fan reaction to the news has been mixed so far. And we have to wonder - is Downey, Jr.’s return a feat of creative genius on the part of Kevin Feige, or a Hail Mary Pass? Is it too little too late? Let’s look at why Marvel’s Comic-Con news was huge, but also somehow still a disappointment. And what that might say about us, the fans…
It’s been about five years since Robert Downey, Jr. left the MCU after the death of Iron Man in 2019’s almost universally praised Avengers: Endgame. It will have been six years by the time The Fantastic Four: First Steps, as the MCU movie is now called, is released in 2025, and where he will presumably show up in some capacity. On the one hand, that’s a fairly long stretch to have had no RDJ in the shared universe that he helped build, but on the other, there’s a whiff of desperation to this whole thing that can’t help but diminish the excitement over the news. (And of course I use “desperation” liberally, as we are talking about very, very rich people here.)
A lot of fans seem to feel the same way. We’ve got a poll running on IGN.com asking if Downey’s casting as Doctor Doom was the right move by Marvel. As of this recording, 75,000 users have responded and about 56% of them said no. Our RUclips poll has about 55 thousand votes with a 62% negative response rate. And our Twitter poll adds another 20k of votes, with 54% percent of responses being no’s.
Of course, negative reactions to casting in a superhero movie is nothing new. Just ask Michael Keaton. But I can’t help but wonder if there’s something more going on here.
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We need Doom to be actually Doom, not a variant of Tony Stark. So RDJ will have to not take the mask off ever.
he will be Tony Stark rising from the dead. Remember the scar after the snap
opinion
@@lessee_6768 Russos literally said it’s Victor Von Doom
@@shomarilewis3602 Just my theory. He can be Victor/ Tony who knows
@@shomarilewis3602they can say anything, tbh. Doesn't matter in the end. Never gonna tell you everything or literally lie for a surprise.
Marvel will go down in history as one of the biggest examples of overcooking the meal
People still eat it anyway.
Maybe more like remixing the same remix again and again, wich was already a remix from the start. The meal was served in full, people wanted more, people wanted 'new' but yet the same
😂😂
Wrong.
😂😂😂
Rdj coming back as a different character is one of the worst casting jobs ever
Finally people are making sense now that the hype is down he should have stayed as iron man
Marvel should stop announcing stuff…just drop a trailer when it’s done
Why stop announcing stuff
@@nathanielwoods664 it’s better to be surprised if we didnt know who was under the mask
Imagine the impact of removing Dooms mask in an actual movie…
That's not how Hollywood works tho
@@The1theycallghost3030 do Hollywood tell you the twist that will be in the movie or do they leave it to the movie to surprise you?
Stanley's absence speaks loud
Kevin is gonna milk Robert until he's dead!!
more like “until he’s 90”
Dude, phrasing.
Guarantee this already exists on AO3
I'm personally not into the hype until they get Blade right.
Next, the problem with ign's 7evens
People are just burnt out on super heroes. It was bound to happen. It's not rocket science. If you're an older person looking for entertainment, your options are very limited as far as what the mainstream offers. Everything is written for kids 18-20, with no real life experience, an annoying sarcastic tone, and feature life "lessons" that have been taught infinite times before. Most crucial of all, there are no real stakes anymore because big studios want franchises. So, nobody can really die as evidenced by RDJ coming back. It's creative bankruptcy.
they should have cast another actor as dr. doom! rdj is too associated with the ironman character. unless the story can explain the situation. the worry is now even the russo brothers and christopher (the screenwriter) might not be able to save the marvel universe. kevin is taking a huge risk with this move.
IGN has a problem with 7’s but we’re still here.
Facts!
Ign always looking at movies and games at what they arent instead of what they are.
Removed Major Kang and brought in Downey Doom. The MCU is cooked. Time to start over.
The problem with the MCU is that they said 🖕 what the fans want, just like what Ign does daily
What is this guy talking about. Deadpool literally says he’s marvel Jesus and he’s here to save the mcu
Marvel ruined it for me turned iron man the coolest character into Dr.Doom
Funny how doing fan service cameos and forcing a plot to get Hugh Jackman is the least of the MCU's flaws after Endgame.
It was either Dr Doom or Doolittle 2 for RDJ.
Desperate of marvel to bring back RDJ
He literally said "different mask, same task"?! You kidding me? Does he not understand the assignment?
The MCU itself has a HUUUUUUUUUGEEEEEE problem
All people in Hollywood they couldn't find one
Mentioning fans always looking for the next thing was poignant. Movie/game trailer comment sections typically have a multitude of statements dismissively suggesting what the creators next project should be before the current one has even released. It's obnoxious and definitely an issue.
They will never get Doom right. 😭
Doom is doomed. All is balanced
This is the short (and correct) answer.
IGN blaming the fans.
Y’all gave Deadpool and Wolverine a 7/10. We can’t trust your opinion
avengers multiverse concept is very chaotic and value deluting chaos
Complacency is their curse. MCU got complacent after endgame and now that is biting them in the arse. Bringing RDJ is to ensure their next big avengers movie makes a lot money even though let’s be real it isn’t going to even with him on board because one actor can’t save this sinking ship.
Avengers was a team effort and the current lineup is abysmal to say the least. They got zero star power and all of their new heroes have failed to gain any traction besides probably moon knight.
And the thing is endgame was a cinematic event that you couldn’t miss out on whereas the movies in the current phase can all be skipped out and you wouldn’t miss anything at all cause there’s no sense of a build up to something greater and whatever build up their might be is uninteresting.
So yeah the MCU is officially done for after this.
How many times they will flop fantastic 4 man 😂😂😂
They lost me long ago and this wont bring me back
The more you think about it, the more it kinda makes sense.
There’s a ton of dooms on stage everyone’s ignoring for whatever fuckin reason. The truth might be more complicated than they’re letting on.
More than likely doom bots. It’s a big part of his character. Would love to be surprised though
No Nicholas Cage cameo as a Ghost Rider but everything was perfect... Especially Wesley Snipes Blade.
LOL MARVEL FANS ARE SO FN SPOILED. “We got plenty of exciting news but we want more more more”
It’s not very exciting. The mcu has character assassinated so many fan favorites it’s probably going to be another let down
Recycling actors, lame
Jesus now Ironman won’t be as cool as a Herero decades from now when people go back to watch these movies
Helen Mirren will be cast as Galactus.
Endgame should be the endgame for mcu.
So it's us, the fans, the toxics???
Nah we turnt up and will be there
it's true, fell asleep before the reveal. The OG Avengers will be hard to repeat
My focus is on the word Doomsday. With this and the next film MCU as we know it will end. A hard reboot.
It ended at end game... They have to understand there's an end to everything
Just make him an evil Tony clone or somethin at this point
Does IGN ever have a positive outlook on anything?
Also the majority of critics like D&W, IGN’s review had more holes than the plot of the movie
Ign nobody respects your opinion
The problem is multiverse. Yes comic fans would like it. But the casual audience will be confused and won’t understand multiverse stuff.
alright slow down guys you dont have enough money to make a change so why do you care?
they should have stopped the movies after revenge of the sith
Wow! a common sense editorial with a sensible message! Someone at IGN taking a step back and using logical and sensible thinking. Love it!
Hail Mary
We need Ryan Gosling as Doctor Doom
Is he just going to play Tony Stark from the beginning of endgame/ oppenheimer
Is is basically a fail at the wnd😢. He used the hype but without proving anything.
IGN is huge, But Somehow Still a Letdown
Stop call him rdj, it makes him sound like one of the Star Wars robot buddies or a piece of dj equipment
Kang The Conqueror. Period
0:40 - 1:27 Ouch 🤕
Why RDJ? No ty
What if rdj is the stark variant that gets killed by the actually story doom which end up surprisingly being Murphy, that would be cool lol
Wanted kang to be back now the mcu it’s not gonna be same after Deadpool and Wolverine timeline bias thing smhhh….
RDJ should have been a secret revealed at the end of F4 and explained in Doomsday.
the editing in this video is also a letdown
Until your 90
MCU has a huge problem? No way.
We didn’t ask for your opinion
Who's we?
@@azozazoz9196 not you apparently.
You can show the polls, but everyone keep in mind the bias. The people who respond to those polls mainly agree with IGN on everything, but the people who think IGNs takes on things are bad just don’t interact. Polls aren’t validation that your opinion is right 😂
This is genuinely some of the most asinine casting I've seen in a while
Still better than Kang😂
You guys speak like you never knew similar stuff happens in comics.
Yeah, wtf were they thinking. No infinity gauntlet with all movies inside.
JFC you'd expect they'd make one. How hard was that
No matter what they did people would complain
Like you never complained about Madame Web before.
IGN rating their significant other: You’re a 7…….and fight!
RDJ is gonna kill this role, he’s one of the best actors of all time. People are never satisfied.
The problem with ign…..
Anthony Starr (homelander) should have been cast. Don't need to recycle rdj. Move forward. Don't look back.
And the Russo bros. nerfed Hulk for the Infinity saga. They shouldn't be invited back.
Really wanted to see Earth 616 Doctor Doom. Not an alternate Victor Von Doom as Infamous Iron Man post Marvel Civil War 2
*Earth-199999 Doctor Doom.
Just now seeing the actual reveal visually in this vid and the way it was done kinda makes it look like RDJ's Doom is gonna be only one of many maybe. A variant perhaps like people have suggested
Again ign think their talking for the ppl when their not
They think they represent us. Lmao, the arrogance of the work IGN
We’ve been watching Spider-Man and X-men for 20+ years now.. perhaps people are just tired of comic book movies?
Only a letdown to negative people
"Negative people" and it's people who are just critical of very obviously corporate decisions
Negative people could not make a multi billion dollar film franchise.
It's hard not to be negative about something that is a negative thing in of itself. This should have been a new actor. Thr fact that it isn't is either because they think robert downie junior will somehow bring people back, or even worse the first ever mcu Doctor Doom will be an Iron Man variant.
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Problem are the fans, specially those who never read a comic book in their life but pretend to be a comic book fan. Also your polling was done in wrong community filled with toxic GenZs, the results aren't true.
RDJ loves hulk...so, he can be a variant of hulk and it suits him
The reason why Robert Downey Jr. is playing the role of Doctor doom, because he misses and loves the MCU and hates what has became of it. So that's why he's back.
You guts are obsessed with who's playing who, when the whole MCU is based on comic book stories
They were right Keaton isn't batman.
it's probably the doom of mcu.
What's with IGN hating marvel right now?
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The only letdown is you giving games/shows/movies a 7
Groovy doctor doom
RJD
Hopefully the Russo Brothers can save the MCU mess.
Whoever you are talking in this video well said!!!
Worst villain = IGN ratings
Ign goes at it again and so the complains begin
They’re already giving this movie a 7
Let them cook. I'll hold my judgment until after I've seen Avengers Doomsday. Personally, I'm excited. Russos have shown they can deliver and so has RDJ.
Title should be “the problem with ign”
Doctor Doom
Blah blah blah
winning cures everything